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ChiefsandO'sfan
10-12-2011, 02:14 PM
JayGlazer Jay Glazer
Sources on Raiders & SEA tell me they've agreed to a trade sending Aaron Curry, 4th pick in 09 draft, to OAK for pick this yr, 1 next yr


AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Source involved in trade says Raiders acquired former Seahawks LB Aaron Curry for an undisclosed pick in 2012 and undisclosed pick in 2013.

Detoxing
10-12-2011, 02:16 PM
I thought Al Davis died? WTF? Is he making decisions from beyond the grave?

Pestilence
10-12-2011, 02:16 PM
Al Davis lives!!!!

KurtCobain
10-12-2011, 02:16 PM
Good fit.

Old Dog
10-12-2011, 02:17 PM
I read that as a 1 next year (as in their first rounder)
I was thinking the Raiders are up to their old tricks even with the cryptkeeper underground

KCUnited
10-12-2011, 02:17 PM
Jesus on Jesus crime In Week 9.

Rooster
10-12-2011, 02:18 PM
JayGlazer Jay Glazer
Sources on Raiders & SEA tell me they've agreed to a trade sending Aaron Curry, 4th pick in 09 draft, to OAK for pick this yr, 1 next yr

Two picks total, correct? Not their #1 pick next year. :eek:

durtyrute
10-12-2011, 02:18 PM
would've been a good fit

DeezNutz
10-12-2011, 02:19 PM
Would you have traded Tyson Jackson to Seattle for Curry?

oldandslow
10-12-2011, 02:19 PM
Pete Carroll is a disaster...You gonna accept that the guy who brought T.Jackson in to be QB knows what he is doing with Curry.

Oakland's H. Jackson will know what to do with him.

Detoxing
10-12-2011, 02:19 PM
Two picks total, correct? Not their #1 pick next year. :eek:

OH.

I read that as their #1 pick next year.

Ok. That makes sense.

And I agree with Kurt, I think it's a good fit.

Sofa King
10-12-2011, 02:20 PM
Wow. I hope he doesn't learn anything there.

Detoxing
10-12-2011, 02:20 PM
would've been a good fit

...as a back up to DJ maybe.

Reerun_KC
10-12-2011, 02:20 PM
Would you have traded Tyson Jackson to Seattle for Curry?
no

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-12-2011, 02:20 PM
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Source involved in trade says Raiders acquired former Seahawks LB Aaron Curry for an undisclosed pick in 2012 and undisclosed pick in 2013.

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-12-2011, 02:26 PM
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
As @Joey_Roberts notes, Raiders already without 2nd, 3rd and 4th-round picks in 2012, so didn't have to give up too much for Aaron Curry.

Nightfyre
10-12-2011, 02:26 PM
I think we should trade Matt Cassel to Pete Carroll, but I strangely doubt he's interested.

Rams Fan
10-12-2011, 02:26 PM
Pete Carroll is a disaster...You gonna accept that the guy who brought T.Jackson in to be QB knows what he is doing with Curry.

Oakland's H. Jackson will know what to do with him.

Carroll was not in Seattle when Curry was drafted.

Nightfyre
10-12-2011, 02:27 PM
Well, at least we don't have to worry about the Raiders moving up and drafting Luck.

Detoxing
10-12-2011, 02:27 PM
Carroll was not in Seattle when Curry was drafted.

PSssst.

I think you missed his point.....

DaKCMan AP
10-12-2011, 02:27 PM
So now we have to play Jesus 4 times each year?

Detoxing
10-12-2011, 02:27 PM
Well, at least we don't have to worry about the Raiders moving up and drafting Luck.

Ah.

A Glass half full kinda guy....

Nightfyre
10-12-2011, 02:28 PM
Ah.

A Glass half full kinda guy....

If you want it 3/4's full... The raiders are gonna have a hard time adding talent next year with only a first round pick left.... hehe.

durtyrute
10-12-2011, 02:32 PM
...as a back up to DJ maybe.

why couldn't he play alongside him?

Ugly Duck
10-12-2011, 02:36 PM
Rumors so far: He reworked his contract to make himself tradable. Two draft picks are a 5th and 7th per wiki.

talastan
10-12-2011, 02:36 PM
Curry with McClain will help that Faider D; so much for going out on a limb. :D

Rooster
10-12-2011, 02:37 PM
So now we have to play Jesus 4 times each year?

:eek: Yikes. On Sunday too.

-King-
10-12-2011, 02:38 PM
why couldn't he play alongside him?

Um because Belcher is better
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L.A. Chieffan
10-12-2011, 02:41 PM
Rumors so far: He reworked his contract to make himself tradable. Two draft picks are a 5th and 7th per wiki.

a 5th and a 7th? steal

oldandslow
10-12-2011, 02:42 PM
Rumors so far: He reworked his contract to make himself tradable. Two draft picks are a 5th and 7th per wiki.


A 5 and 7 for Curry...Yeah, I make that trade.

3rd&48ers
10-12-2011, 02:43 PM
Seattle will receive a seventh-round pick in 2012 and a mid-round conditional pick (fourth or fifth round) in 2013 based on Curry's playing time with Oakland, a source told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7093244/seattle-seahawks-trade-aaron-curry-oakland-raiders-source-says

notorious
10-12-2011, 02:45 PM
a 5th and a 7th? steal

Mother



Fucking


This

DJ's left nut
10-12-2011, 02:45 PM
That's a move KC should've made, IMO.

He has a ton of talent, he just needs to be used correctly.

notorious
10-12-2011, 02:46 PM
Well, it's obvious what team is getting stronger in the AFC West.

DeezNutz
10-12-2011, 02:47 PM
We have to save our late-round picks so that we have the ammunition to move up to take a TE.

Who were those draftabulators who claimed that Jimmy Graham would have been a decent pick, again?

DaFace
10-12-2011, 02:48 PM
Rumors so far: He reworked his contract to make himself tradable. Two draft picks are a 5th and 7th per wiki.

That's insane if true.

Rooster
10-12-2011, 02:49 PM
A 5 and 7 for Curry...Yeah, I make that trade.

I supposed but isn't rounds 5 through 7 where you pick QBs. I would hate for KC to give those up. :D

notorious
10-12-2011, 02:50 PM
That's insane if true.

Yep.


We all feared the day that the Raiders would make smart trades, draft smart, and get a QB.

Oh ya, don't forget Al Davis's death.


Three down, one to go

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-12-2011, 02:51 PM
"Curry, the No. 4 overall pick in the 2009 draft, flamed out in Seattle because he lacked instincts to diagnose run plays and was a zero in pass coverage. Raiders MLB Rolando McClain suffered a potentially serious ankle injury in Week 6, and Curry could be viewed as insurance behind likely replacement starter Darryl Blackstock."

KCUnited
10-12-2011, 02:53 PM
"Curry, the No. 4 overall pick in the 2009 draft, flamed out in Seattle because he lacked instincts to diagnose run plays and was a zero in pass coverage. Raiders MLB Rolando McClain suffered a potentially serious ankle injury in Week 6, and Curry could be viewed as insurance behind likely replacement starter Darryl Blackstock."

Always bet on black.

HemiEd
10-12-2011, 02:54 PM
I think we should trade Matt Cassel to Pete Carroll, but I strangely doubt he's interested.

Yes please, and we will take pot luck on any draft choice he is willing to give up.

Frosty
10-12-2011, 02:54 PM
I was trying to think of a former high 1st round pick (say top 10) that flamed out with his original team and then blew up with the next team but couldn't come up with one. Anyone got one?

It seems like these guys just bounce around from team to team for a while before fading away.

Dave Lane
10-12-2011, 02:56 PM
I'd laugh my ass off if they traded their 1st for Curry LMAO

HemiEd
10-12-2011, 02:57 PM
I supposed but isn't rounds 5 through 7 where you pick QBs. I would hate for KC to give those up. :D

OMG, ROFL

durtyrute
10-12-2011, 02:57 PM
Um because Belcher is better
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Maybe right now on different teams, but i'll take what Romeo can do with Curry over what he can continue to do with Belcher

O.city
10-12-2011, 02:58 PM
I don't really knwo what happened to Curry. I guess it shows that you have to draft guys not only extremely talented, but that fit your scheme. DUH

vailpass
10-12-2011, 02:58 PM
Jesus on Jesus crime In Week 9.

LMAO

O.city
10-12-2011, 02:58 PM
We have to save our picks up to give to whoever has the 1st pick. Luck won't come cheap.

BoneKrusher
10-12-2011, 02:59 PM
Rumors so far: He reworked his contract to make himself tradable. Two draft picks are a 5th and 7th per wiki.

if he pans out, that's cheap for a former 1st rounder.

BoneKrusher
10-12-2011, 03:00 PM
We have to save our picks up to give to whoever has the 1st pick. Luck won't come cheap.

;)

Chiefnj2
10-12-2011, 03:00 PM
I was trying to think of a former high 1st round pick (say top 10) that flamed out with his original team and then blew up with the next team but couldn't come up with one. Anyone got one?

It seems like these guys just bounce around from team to team for a while before fading away.

Leonard Davis??

Fritz88
10-12-2011, 03:03 PM
Would you have traded Tyson Jackson to Seattle for Curry?

I honestly see more progress from Tyson than that tard.

Frosty
10-12-2011, 03:06 PM
Leonard Davis??

If you call having one excellent year at guard after being a failed LT "blowing up" - I guess that's one.

L.A. Chieffan
10-12-2011, 03:07 PM
trent dilfer?

L.A. Chieffan
10-12-2011, 03:08 PM
thomas jones?

L.A. Chieffan
10-12-2011, 03:08 PM
plaxico?

L.A. Chieffan
10-12-2011, 03:11 PM
cedric benson?

whoman69
10-12-2011, 03:15 PM
I supposed but isn't rounds 5 through 7 where you pick QBs. I would hate for KC to give those up. :D

That's where CP made all his best picks because he'd usually go for a 5th round talent in round 2.

Frosty
10-12-2011, 03:18 PM
trent dilfer?

LMAO

thomas jones?

Journeyman

plaxico?

Plaxico actually produced for the Steelers, though, despite having Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox as the QBs during that time.

cedric benson?

Probably a okay example, though he hasn't exactly set the world on fire lately.

A rather unimpressive list.

Nightfyre
10-12-2011, 03:18 PM
Yes please, and we will take pot luck on any draft choice he is willing to give up.

I was thinking we could give up a third to have them take him off our hands? :shrug:

Ugly Duck
10-12-2011, 03:22 PM
This is just another reclamation project for Richard Seymour. Oakland gave Jarvis Moss (#17 overall) to Seymour & told him to coach the guy. Moss did crap in Denver, but after being mentored by Seymour has become a serviceable DE. Making sacks, batting down balls like he never did as a Bronco. Seymour told Moss that if he didn't become a student of the game & learn to live football his career would be over. Moss gave up his X-box & sat around studying footage of the DE greats & the weekly games instead. He's now a new man on the field. Seymour is gonna give Aaron Curry the same treatment. Might work, might not, but the dude has the talent if he learns the mental aspect of how to apply it...

notorious
10-12-2011, 03:24 PM
It's all about putting talent in a position to make plays. Does anyone believe that Seattle had the coaching to take advantage of Curry's skills?


Better yet, does anyone think that Crennel has the ability to take advantage of Curry's skills?

O.city
10-12-2011, 03:25 PM
Some guys just flop in the NFL, no matter talent level. It really is scheme and how hard the guy works at it. It's not all on the coaching that he didn't work out in Seattle.

Nightfyre
10-12-2011, 03:28 PM
I don't know how well he would do in our scheme. He is soft in the running game-which is exactly what you don't want in a 3-4 ILB.

Frosty
10-12-2011, 03:28 PM
Some guys just flop in the NFL, no matter talent level. It really is scheme and how hard the guy works at it. It's not all on the coaching that he didn't work out in Seattle.

Curry didn't produce under either coaching staff in Seattle. He has been outplayed by a 4th round pick this year, who apparently does respond to coaching.

notorious
10-12-2011, 03:29 PM
It's not all on the coaching that he didn't work out in Seattle.

That's why our defense got better overnight with Crennel.

O.city
10-12-2011, 03:30 PM
That's why our defense got better overnight with Crennel.

Alot of times it is coaching but Curry has been under two staffs in Seattle. In the end the guy has to put the time in to become a good player. Not saying he didn't but it isn't all on the coaching.

notorious
10-12-2011, 03:34 PM
Alot of times it is coaching but Curry has been under two staffs in Seattle. In the end the guy has to put the time in to become a good player. Not saying he didn't but it isn't all on the coaching.

Agree.



Great player will do great thing anywhere. Marginal players will play good with good scheme and coaching and vice versa.


Bad players are just........bad.

Frosty
10-12-2011, 03:39 PM
Personally, I'm not too worked up over not giving up draft picks for a player that has turned out to be no better than a 4th round LB. Curry is just a "name" at this point.

Ugly Duck
10-12-2011, 03:51 PM
Curry is just a "name" at this point.

Like Jarvis Moss was when Oakland stole him from Denver.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk96/kcfanxiii/motivator4739640.jpg

milkman
10-12-2011, 03:54 PM
I was trying to think of a former high 1st round pick (say top 10) that flamed out with his original team and then blew up with the next team but couldn't come up with one. Anyone got one?

It seems like these guys just bounce around from team to team for a while before fading away.

John Matuszak

Chocolate Hog
10-12-2011, 03:55 PM
This is the guy Milkman wanted.

O.city
10-12-2011, 03:55 PM
Curry is a high reward low risk at this point. It's likely he ddoesn't turn out but he might.

Frosty
10-12-2011, 03:58 PM
John Matuszak

And here comes Milkman in his Wayback Machine. :)

Thanks, though.

Ugly Duck
10-12-2011, 04:03 PM
I was trying to think of a former high 1st round pick (say top 10) that flamed out with his original team and then blew up with the next team but couldn't come up with one. Anyone got one?

It seems like these guys just bounce around from team to team for a while before fading away.

Heisman winner Jim Plunkett was the 1st pick overall. Tanked in New England & San Francisco, then won SuperBowls for Oakland.

2009 - Drafted, Seahawks go 5-11.
12 starts in 14 games played. Curry records 54 solo tackles out of 61 combined tackles...including 2 sacks.

2010 - Coaching Change to Pete Carroll, completely different system than what Aaron Curry was drafted for.
16 starts in 16 games, including two playoff games. Curry records 60 solo tackles out of 73 combined tackles...including 3.5 sacks and 2 forced fumbles, 1 pass defended.

2011 - Pete Carroll guys come in, drafted for their system...Curry demoted, put on the block. 2 starts in 5 games played. 16 solo tackles of 22 combined tackles including 2 passes defended.

...could it be that Curry didn't fit into Carroll's scheme?

Deberg_1990
10-12-2011, 04:10 PM
I was trying to think of a former high 1st round pick (say top 10) that flamed out with his original team and then blew up with the next team but couldn't come up with one. Anyone got one?

It seems like these guys just bounce around from team to team for a while before fading away.

Theres been a few. Depends on your definition of Blow up? Jeff George comes to mind. He was alright in Atlanta and Oakland for awhile.

veist
10-12-2011, 04:11 PM
I kind of doubt Curry is going to suddenly learn how to read run/pass cues.

Fritz88
10-12-2011, 04:32 PM
They got him for a 7th + a conditional mid rounder.

Damn it, they are becoming the anti Al Davis.

O.city
10-12-2011, 04:34 PM
The also don't have a 2,3,4 round pick in next years draft. Now they likely won't have a 5th either.

3rd&48ers
10-12-2011, 04:39 PM
The also don't have a 2,3,4 round pick in next years draft. Now they likely won't have a 5th either.

Raiders are young now at most positions, what they need can be acquired in free agency.

milkman
10-12-2011, 04:39 PM
This is the guy Milkman wanted.

Wrong again.

O.city
10-12-2011, 04:41 PM
Raiders are young now at most positions, what they need can be acquired in free agency.

I don't know I'm just asking but isn't their dline aging a little. Maybe it's just Seymour but I thought your Dline and secondary is aging a little.

3rd&48ers
10-12-2011, 04:43 PM
I don't know I'm just asking but isn't their dline aging a little. Maybe it's just Seymour but I thought your Dline and secondary is aging a little.

Oh yea, Seymour is long in the tooth... Now if they had given up a 1st rounder for Curry, I would be pissed but you can get 5th and 7th round talent off the waiver wire after the first cut down.... The NFL is a win now league, it's almost impossible to prepare for the future with free agency the way it is now.

Pestilence
10-12-2011, 04:44 PM
Raiders are young now at most positions, what they need can be acquired in free agency.

Funny....you didn't say young AND talented.....just young.

3rd&48ers
10-12-2011, 04:47 PM
Funny....you didn't say young AND talented.....just young.

You will see just how talented they are in a couple of weeks.

BossChief
10-12-2011, 05:04 PM
Raiders are young now at most positions, what they need can be acquired in free agency.

So, you're saying they should JUST PAY CASH eh?

haha had to

Deberg_1990
10-12-2011, 05:14 PM
Raiders are young now at most positions, what they need can be acquired in free agency.

They have everything but a QB
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notorious
10-12-2011, 05:16 PM
They have everything but a QB
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Sounds familiar.........

3rd&48ers
10-12-2011, 05:29 PM
They have everything but a QB
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Middle of the road QB..... But if you play defense and can run the ball you don't have to have an elite QB...

Terrell Pryor started practicing today :D 230 lbs 6 foot 5 4.38 40

3rd&48ers
10-12-2011, 05:30 PM
So, you're saying they should JUST PAY CASH eh?

haha had to

Absolutely :D

Deberg_1990
10-12-2011, 05:33 PM
Middle of the road QB..... But if you play defense and can run the ball you don't have to have an elite QB...

Terrell Pryor started practicing today :D 230 lbs 6 foot 5 4.38 40

Havent u learned anything from the Chiefs? That's ok in the regular season. Won't cut it in the playoffs.
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milkman
10-12-2011, 05:35 PM
Middle of the road QB..... But if you play defense and can run the ball you don't have to have an elite QB...

Terrell Pryor started practicing today :D 230 lbs 6 foot 5 4.38 40

You aren't winning playoff games and advancing to a SB with a middle of the road QB anymore.

You don't have a QB now, you're just spinning your wheels.

O.city
10-12-2011, 05:36 PM
Havent u learned anything from the Chiefs? That's ok in the regular season. Won't cut it in the playoffs.
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Middle of the road qbs don't win superbowls. It doesn't happen. And don't give me this Ravens crap.

Rain Man
10-12-2011, 05:39 PM
At least Oakland didn't get a starter from Seattle.

MoreLemonPledge
10-12-2011, 05:40 PM
IF WE CAN'T GET JIMMY CLAUSEN WE NEED TO GET AARON CURRY

Joe Seahawk
10-12-2011, 05:41 PM
He needed to go, good luck to him he seemed like a good guy. He was going to be a backup here anyway.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d822fc170/Seahawks-defense-INT

3rd&48ers
10-12-2011, 05:48 PM
Havent u learned anything from the Chiefs? That's ok in the regular season. Won't cut it in the playoffs.
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You aren't winning playoff games and advancing to a SB with a middle of the road QB anymore.

You don't have a QB now, you're just spinning your wheels.

Middle of the road qbs don't win superbowls. It doesn't happen. And don't give me this Ravens crap.

No offense but I don't want any Superbowl or Playoff advice from Chief fans...

notorious
10-12-2011, 05:49 PM
He needed to go, good luck to him he seemed like a good guy. He was going to be a backup here anyway.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d822fc170/Seahawks-defense-INT

All right, someone who actually watched him play.


What was his problem?

Marcellus
10-12-2011, 05:50 PM
So now they are trading for other teams busts? A discounted bust is still bust just cheaper.

You know how cheap a DeLorean is now?

notorious
10-12-2011, 05:50 PM
No offense but I don't want any Superbowl or Playoff advice from Chief fans...

What about Colts, New England, New Orleans, Green Bay fans?

O.city
10-12-2011, 05:52 PM
No offense but I don't want any Superbowl or Playoff advice from Chief fans...

Why the fuck does that matter? We aren't giving you advice, just telling you what the truth is. We have seen it for years. Go get a qb and you can win in the playoffs.

Nightfyre
10-12-2011, 05:54 PM
No offense but I don't want any Superbowl or Playoff advice from Chief fans...

Hey, you can learn something from everybody. From the Chiefs, you can specifically learn that a complete team without a QB will not win a superbowl. Consider 1995 and 1997.

Marcellus
10-12-2011, 05:55 PM
Why the **** does that matter? We aren't giving you advice, just telling you what the truth is. We have seen it for years. Go get a qb and you can win in the playoffs.

I would think we Chief's fans would know. Last playoff win Montana was QB.

Last good chance to win Trent was QB and he was a really good QB. Damn defense.

Other playoff games, fell flat as fuck, with shitty QB's.

the Talking Can
10-12-2011, 05:56 PM
eh

BCD
10-12-2011, 06:00 PM
No offense but I don't want any Superbowl or Playoff advice from Chief fans...

Don't be fucking dumb. Browns fans will tell you the same thing.

No QB. No SB.

milkman
10-12-2011, 06:00 PM
No offense but I don't want any Superbowl or Playoff advice from Chief fans...

You may not want to know what we have to say about what it takes to win, but a guaran damn tee, we know better than anyone what it takes to lose.

Marcellus
10-12-2011, 06:01 PM
You may not want to know what we have to say about what it takes to win, but a guaran damn tee, we know better than anyone what it takes to lose.

LMAO

O.city
10-12-2011, 06:02 PM
I would think we Chief's fans would know. Last playoff win Montana was QB.

Last good chance to win Trent was QB and he was a really good QB. Damn defense.

Other playoff games, fell flat as ****, with shitty QB's.

If we could only match Green's offense with DT's defense we would have went full dynasty mode.

O.city
10-12-2011, 06:03 PM
You may not want to know what we have to say about what it takes to win, but a guaran damn tee, we know better than anyone what it takes to lose.

This. We have lost in about every imaginable way. That's why I think it's destiny we get Luck and win 3 or 4 superbowls and beat the Broncos every year Elway style.

milkman
10-12-2011, 06:03 PM
If we could only match Green's offense with DT's defense we would have went full dynasty mode.

I know people think that, but I never fully trusted Green in critical situations.

BCD
10-12-2011, 06:03 PM
Middle of the road qbs don't win superbowls. It doesn't happen. And don't give me this Ravens crap.

I used to give the Ravens/Dilfer/Tampa/Johnson excuse. I know better now.

O.city
10-12-2011, 06:05 PM
I know people think that, but I never fully trusted Green in critical situations.

With that d, I don't think he would have ever been in a critical situation that he would have to outscore a team.

Marcellus
10-12-2011, 06:06 PM
With that d, I don't think he would have ever been in a critical situation that he would have to outscore a team.

OT in GB was pretty critical. I know the play was set up by running Priest but damn what a pass.

O.city
10-12-2011, 06:08 PM
Had we had an offense that could consistenly put up 21 points with the DT defense, we win a SB.

milkman
10-12-2011, 06:13 PM
OT in GB was pretty critical. I know the play was set up by running Priest but damn what a pass.

He had that play, but there were more times than not when he needed toi make a play, especially in the Red Zone that he failed.

Anytime he went back to pass in the RZ, I held my breath.

Thank god for Priest.

notorious
10-12-2011, 07:23 PM
T8tors just trolled the fuck out of you guys.

Deberg_1990
10-12-2011, 07:29 PM
He had that play, but there were more times than not when he needed toi make a play, especially in the Red Zone that he failed.

Anytime he went back to pass in the RZ, I held my breath.

Thank god for Priest.

He made a ton of Redzone mistakes.....and had a tendancy to throw pick sixes.

Just a couple of games that come to mind that we should have won had he made better decisions: 2002 in Seattle and 2004 or 2005? Against a bad Texans team at home.......im sure there are many more.

Brianfo
10-12-2011, 07:37 PM
Had we had an offense that could consistenly put up 21 points with the DT defense, we win a SB.

Or more like 3. 95, 97, and one more for good measure. Marty's D in the 90's was epic. Too bad he always played not to lose.

Chief Faithful
10-12-2011, 07:44 PM
The best thing one can say about Tyson Jackson is I'm glad the Chiefs didn't take Curry.

Ugly Duck
10-12-2011, 08:30 PM
The best thing one can say about Tyson Jackson is I'm glad the Chiefs didn't take Curry.

Yeah, but would you have given a 7th and a 5th for him?

BCD
10-12-2011, 08:38 PM
What happens if Curry picks off a Tebow pass?

Maybe this is what the Mayans were trying to warn us about.

Marcellus
10-12-2011, 08:40 PM
What happens if Curry picks off a Tebow pass?

Maybe this is what the Mayans were trying to warn us about.

LMAO

Joe Seahawk
10-12-2011, 08:49 PM
All right, someone who actually watched him play.


What was his problem?

He has all the physical tools for sure, but that doesn't do you any good when you run inside and give up containment and the back gets the edge for 20 yards. He just cannot seem to do his job, lots of dumb penalties dropped interceptions, lack of effort lately. I think he has really sucked extra hard since he got benched for a no name 5th round pick, who may not have the physical tools, but does his job within the defense.

I hope Curry figures it out somewhere, but I was sick of seeing him on our defense, especially this year. Pure non discipline suckage.

Marcellus
10-12-2011, 08:51 PM
He has all the physical tools for sure, but that doesn't do you any good when you run inside and give up containment and the back gets the edge for 20 yards. He just cannot seem to do his job, lots of dumb penalties dropped interceptions, lack of effort lately. I think he has really sucked extra hard since he got benched for a no name 5th round pick, who may not have the physical tools, but does his job within the defense.

I hope Curry figures it out somewhere, but I was sick of seeing him on our defense, especially this year. Pure non discipline suckage.

Sounds like Derrick Johnson his first 3 or 4 years. He played better than Curry but still more bad than good.

He seems to have come around with tough love.

durtyrute
10-12-2011, 08:56 PM
Sounds like Derrick Johnson his first 3 or 4 years. He played better than Curry but still more bad than good.

He seems to have come around with tough love.

HOly shit, I was thinking the exact same thing. I think he'll turn out to be a hell of a player he just needs to be pushed in the right way.

Joe Seahawk
10-12-2011, 09:30 PM
This is pretty harsh coming from a teammate..

Defensive end Red Bryant: "I canít speak to how he feels, but just being one of his teammates, I donít feel like he was probably as ready as he could have been.


Luckily, for every Aaron Curry, there is a Doug Baldwin, the best Rookie reciever named Baldwin in the league.

BCD
10-12-2011, 09:38 PM
Raiders are young now at most positions, what they need can be acquired in free agency.

What about the QB position?

Ugly Duck
10-12-2011, 11:30 PM
We have lost in about every imaginable way.

No. KC can lose, but they just aren't very good at it. Gotta take a page from the stories of Detroit & the Bills & Oakland. If you're gonna lose, take it seriously. Lose bad & lose for a long time. It has to run through your veins, become second nature. Rack up 7 or 8 years of high draft picks. Oh sure - you'll miss on some. But eventually you'll build up a stable of young talent.

rtmike
10-13-2011, 12:06 AM
No. KC can lose, but they just aren't very good at it. Gotta take a page from the stories of Detroit & the Bills & Oakland. If you're gonna lose, take it seriously. Lose bad & lose for a long time. It has to run through your veins, become second nature. Rack up 7 or 8 years of high draft picks. Oh sure - you'll miss on some. But eventually you'll build up a stable of young talent.

And then fire the coach who was behind drafting most of that young talent so that the new coach gets all the credit for getting that talent performing.

Frosty
10-13-2011, 08:52 AM
Sounds like Derrick Johnson his first 3 or 4 years. He played better than Curry but still more bad than good.

He seems to have come around with tough love.

DJ was inconsistent but would still make the occasional great play. Curry has just been either bad or invisible (I live in Washington and have seen most of the Seahawks games). Really, he's "just a guy" at this point.

Chiefnj2
10-13-2011, 08:56 AM
Pretty rare for a top rated LB to be as bad as he has been.

Frosty
10-13-2011, 08:59 AM
Pretty rare for a top rated LB to be as bad as he has been.

I seem to remember quite a few people saying he was the safest pick in the draft.

3rd&48ers
10-13-2011, 09:55 AM
And then fire the coach who was behind drafting most of that young talent so that the new coach gets all the credit for getting that talent performing.

I hope you are not talking about Cable... I liked the guy but until Hue got there, the offense was very predictable and vanilla.

Chiefnj2
10-13-2011, 09:57 AM
I seem to remember quite a few people saying he was the safest pick in the draft.

You can find lots of scouting reports that said that. Scott Wright keeps his archives up, he had Curry as the 2nd top prospect, right behind Stafford.

Chief Faithful
10-13-2011, 10:03 AM
Yeah, but would you have given a 7th and a 5th for him?

Good question, for talent alone it might be worth it. He has not shown the value on the field, yet.

Chief Faithful
10-13-2011, 10:08 AM
Sounds like Derrick Johnson his first 3 or 4 years. He played better than Curry but still more bad than good.

He seems to have come around with tough love.

If being consistently bad is a good indication Curry will be good by year 5, then you have a great point.

Seems like I got laughed at when I mentioned Powe would be good by year 3. Why should a team or its fans be patient for 5 years if 3 is too long?

lcarus
10-13-2011, 10:10 AM
I hope he doesn't work out there. Their front seven is already pretty good. Curry has all the athletic tools to be great if he ever puts it all together. Hope he doesn't...

3rd&48ers
10-13-2011, 10:15 AM
I seem to remember quite a few people saying he was the safest pick in the draft.

Yea they said Gallery at LT was the safest pick too. LT money for a Guard



(Russell)is going to immediately energize that fanbase, that football team -- on the practice field, in that locker room. Three years from now you could be looking at a guy that's certainly one of the elite top five quarterbacks in this league. ...You're talking about a 2-3 year period once he's under center. Look out because the skill level that he has is certainly John Elway-like."
--ESPN's Mel Kiper

Joe Seahawk
10-13-2011, 02:15 PM
Former linebacker Dave Wyman.

http://mynorthwest.com/275/562153/Wyman-Aaron-Currys-play-was-disappointing-baffling

PGM
10-13-2011, 02:19 PM
This is just another reclamation project for Richard Seymour. Oakland gave Jarvis Moss (#17 overall) to Seymour & told him to coach the guy. Moss did crap in Denver, but after being mentored by Seymour has become a serviceable DE. Making sacks, batting down balls like he never did as a Bronco. Seymour told Moss that if he didn't become a student of the game & learn to live football his career would be over. Moss gave up his X-box & sat around studying footage of the DE greats & the weekly games instead. He's now a new man on the field. Seymour is gonna give Aaron Curry the same treatment. Might work, might not, but the dude has the talent if he learns the mental aspect of how to apply it...

You sir are the KnowMo of Raider fans.

Ugly Duck
10-13-2011, 03:25 PM
You sir are the KnowMo of Raider fans.

Oh hey c'mon now.... I said Moss has become a serviceable DE after being coached by Seymour - I didn't claim that he is now the bestest evar. In the 10 games he's played for Oakland, he's already equaled the number of sacks & batted passes that he had in his 3 years with Denver. Saying he's gone from complete bust to serviceable is not the same as a KnowMo-esque claim that he's gone from the most talented prospect of all time to the best player ever to strap on a helmet.

Curry was a bust in Seattle, but that doesn't necessarily mean he cannot be salvaged. Seahawks might have some kinda coaching problem over there... they took a very productive Zach Miller & turned him into a nobody. They seem to have a problem with proper allocation of human resources. Maybe Curry doesn't have what it takes to play the Seahawks zone coverage scheme but will do better in the Raider scheme. Its worth a 7th round shot to find out....

SnakeXJones
10-13-2011, 05:10 PM
Oh hey c'mon now.... I said Moss has become a serviceable DE after being coached by Seymour - I didn't claim that he is now the bestest evar. In the 10 games he's played for Oakland, he's already equaled the number of sacks & batted passes that he had in his 3 years with Denver. Saying he's gone from complete bust to serviceable is not the same as a KnowMo-esque claim that he's gone from the most talented prospect of all time to the best player ever to strap on a helmet.

Curry was a bust in Seattle, but that doesn't necessarily mean he cannot be salvaged. Seahawks might have some kinda coaching problem over there... they took a very productive Zach Miller & turned him into a nobody. They seem to have a problem with proper allocation of human resources. Maybe Curry doesn't have what it takes to play the Seahawks zone coverage scheme but will do better in the Raider scheme. Its worth a 7th round shot to find out.... KnowMo probably had Moss in Madden rated 99

Ugly Duck
10-13-2011, 05:54 PM
KnowMo probably had Moss in Madden rated 99

Although I'd like to, I can't hang that on KnowMo. He started with "Jarvis Moss is going to be the next Javon Kearse. I was super stoked when we drafted him." But then quickly went to "Jarvis Moss is a bust." He misses an awful lot & blows up Bronco players far beyond their value, but he actually got it right with Jarvis Moss in Denver. He's not always wrong.

RNR
10-13-2011, 06:11 PM
Former linebacker Dave Wyman.

http://mynorthwest.com/275/562153/Wyman-Aaron-Currys-play-was-disappointing-baffling

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/46458/aaron-curry-not-an-instant-answer

SnakeXJones
10-13-2011, 06:13 PM
Although I'd like to, I can't hang that on KnowMo. He started with "Jarvis Moss is going to be the next Javon Kearse. I was super stoked when we drafted him." But then quickly went to "Jarvis Moss is a bust." He misses an awful lot & blows up Bronco players far beyond their value, but he actually got it right with Jarvis Moss in Denver. He's not always wrong. Maybe your right I look up some of his comedy gold and he even admits it but he does suck every donkey dick he can and wipe it with his tebow jersey

Pioli Zombie
10-13-2011, 06:38 PM
Me and Mecca only agreed on one thing. That draft the Chiefs should have gotten BJ Raji.

Ugly Duck
10-13-2011, 07:24 PM
he does suck every donkey dick he can and wipe it with his tebow jersey

Thats a fact.... its also what endears him to so many Planeteers - its fun to watch. Every offseason Denver is on its way to the SuperBowl. Every draft pick is too good to merely be selected to the measly HOF. He's a one-man Sports Onion!

Ugly Duck
10-14-2011, 03:12 PM
Raiders moving Curry back to his natural position....

Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Aaron Curry is going straight to the starting lineup as weakside linebacker, replacing Quentin Groves. After one practice. Bold.

Vittorio Tafur: Curry starting for Groves Sunday

Pestilence
10-14-2011, 03:28 PM
IF WE CAN'T GET JIMMY CLAUSEN WE NEED TO GET AARON CURRY

What the fuck are you even trying to say with this?

Bacillus Anthracis
10-14-2011, 06:16 PM
One practice and he's in... Not only did Quentin Groves piss off the coaching staff when he jogged off the field costing us a huge sack, he must have also wiped his ass with Hue Jackson's headset at some point too.

It's fine. Groves is one of those guys that is addition by subtraction. Anyone who replaces him automatically makes the D less crappy.

Raider9175
10-15-2011, 10:30 PM
If you want it 3/4's full... The raiders are gonna have a hard time adding talent next year with only a first round pick left.... hehe.

Raiders are going to get compensatory picks for losing N Asomugha , Te Zach miller (a gates money) and R gallery. at very least they should be getting a Third for Asomugha and a fourth or fifth for Miller and probably a seventh for the others they lost.


So after acquiring a Future Rt (Joe Basrksdale) and a RB(Taiwan Jones ) for their second,

Third they got potential their Qb of the future- t Pryor months before as he has a whole year to get familiar with Raiders playbook. Worse Pryor is a dangerous Te or Wr if he dosen't make it at Qb.

Fourth they got their current qb for two years before having to pay that price.

Seventh- they got a curry who going to be Raiders starting Lb at wlb.

So Raiders who have that already all that will probably be missing just a 2 round pick.

IPwnFools
10-15-2011, 10:34 PM
Don't fret Chief fans.

Look at it like this - If you guys would've traded for Aaron Curry, he likely would'nt have done anything for you guys anyway.

So don't feel bad when you see him producing and beasting with the Raiders. What Curry needed was to come to a winning organization, with great coaches, and players surrounding him. That is something that your franchise couldn't provide him.

So like I said...dont feel bad.

btlook1
10-16-2011, 02:13 AM
I really doubt we feel bad.....winning organization with great coaches....what a laugh. Wait a minute....are you out on work release?



Don't fret Chief fans.

Look at it like this - If you guys would've traded for Aaron Curry, he likely would'nt have done anything for you guys anyway.

So don't feel bad when you see him producing and beasting with the Raiders. What Curry needed was to come to a winning organization, with great coaches, and players surrounding him. That is something that your franchise couldn't provide him.

So like I said...dont feel bad.

Chronic
10-16-2011, 06:55 AM
Thomas Howard seems to be playing very well in Cinci, Oakland will more than likely get a 7th comp for him.

I would venture to guess it will be something along these lines

Asomugha - 3rd
Miller - 5th
Gallery - 5th
Howard - 7th


Raiders 2012 draft wont be as bad as many seem to think

1st rd
2nd rd - J Barksdale OT / Taiwan Jones - RB
3rd rd - T. Pryor - QB
3rd rd - (comp pick for Asomugha)
4th rd - Jason Campbell - QB
5th rd - original pick
5th rd - (comp pick for Gallery)
5th rd - (comp pick for Zach Miller)
6th rd -
7th rd - Aaron Curry - LB
7th rd - (comp pick for Thomas Howard)

That 2nd rd trade with the Pats last year was win for Oakland. Barksdale is a future RT and Taiwan Jones is a stud RB

Raiders open selections for 1012

1st
3rd
5th
5th
6th
7th

Considering they got for 2012 picks

Jason Campbell
Joseph Barksdale
Taiwan Jones
Terrell Pryor
Aaron Curry

Depending on how they draft in april, this 2012 draft could very well pan out be another stellar follow up drafts from 2011 & 2010

Raiders been hitting solid on their last 2 drafts

All Oakland will be missing is a 2nd and 4th rd in aprils draft

jspchief
10-16-2011, 07:46 AM
Lol at Pryor as qbotf.