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Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 02:58 PM
Quit double posting bitch

Stop fuckign downloading brazillian clown midget amputee porn sir, you are fucking up the internets.

Ugly Duck
10-21-2011, 03:04 PM
8 game winning streak in the AFC West

Seriously? An 8 game winning streak vs the AFCW? Wow - now that is dominance! Whoa... so if we beat KC on Sunday it will be 9-0 in the division. Then a rest-up to face Baby Jesus & the Donks... thats a 10-game win streak. Has that level of dominance ever existed before in the history of the NFL? Well, I guess there's no argument about which team is the best in the division....

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 03:05 PM
So the Chiefs have had 40 continuous years of bad trades?

Look, if the Chiefs had made this trade, I would be bashing it.

If the Raiders had given up a second, it would be a good trade.

The Chiefs gave up a second for a QB who has been statistically better two out of the last three years AND a OLB who helped teach the new defense.

The Raiders are desperate. I don't know if you realize that. The reality is that they have an important stadium decision coming up and they HAVE to be respectable. The fact that they have been laughingstocks in the NFL since 2002 is not going to get it done.

In some ways, I wish the Chiefs had a little more urgency.... but I am glad that they aren't throwing away two high picks on a 31 year old QB who has performed worse than Matt Cassel in two out of the previous three years.

If you are looking up at Matt Cassel in any statistical category, you aren't doing well.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 03:06 PM
Seriously? An 8 game winning streak vs the AFCW? Wow - now that is dominance! Whoa... so if we beat KC on Sunday it will be 9-0 in the division. Then a rest-up to face Baby Jesus & the Donks... thats a 10-game win streak. Has that level of dominance ever existed before in the history of the NFL? Well, I guess there's no argument about which team is the best in the division....

But but but.... they won the AFCW last year Duck ROFL

the Talking Can
10-21-2011, 03:08 PM
Seriously? An 8 game winning streak vs the AFCW? Wow - now that is dominance! Whoa... so if we beat KC on Sunday it will be 9-0 in the division. Then a rest-up to face Baby Jesus & the Donks... thats a 10-game win streak. Has that level of dominance ever existed before in the history of the NFL? Well, I guess there's no argument about which team is the best in the division....

there isn't

we're the defending champions, and the Chargers are in first place


Oakland is nothing

whoman69
10-21-2011, 03:08 PM
Seriously? An 8 game winning streak vs the AFCW? Wow - now that is dominance! Whoa... so if we beat KC on Sunday it will be 9-0 in the division. Then a rest-up to face Baby Jesus & the Donks... thats a 10-game win streak. Has that level of dominance ever existed before in the history of the NFL? Well, I guess there's no argument about which team is the best in the division....

Dominant mediocrity.

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 03:08 PM
It will be Boller

http://www.raiderfans.org/oakland-raiders-news/4305-raiders-%7C-carson-palmer-not-ready.html

Wow, Palmer is not up to speed physically. Boy, I hope that's not the standard he holds to, otherwise you won't see him all year.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 03:08 PM
Look, if the Chiefs had made this trade, I would be bashing it.

If the Raiders had given up a second, it would be a good trade.

The Chiefs gave up a second for a QB who has been statistically better two out of the last three years AND a OLB who helped teach the new defense.

The Raiders are desperate. I don't know if you realize that. The reality is that they have an important stadium decision coming up and they HAVE to be respectable. The fact that they have been laughingstocks in the NFL since 2002 is not going to get it done.

In some ways, I wish the Chiefs had a little more urgency.... but I am glad that they aren't throwing away two high picks on a 31 year old QB who has performed worse than Matt Cassel in two out of the previous three years.

If you are looking up at Matt Cassel in any statistical category, you aren't doing well.

Don't even put Cassell in the same category as Palmer man or I am gonna chane your name to sillychiefsfan

BigMeatballDave
10-21-2011, 03:12 PM
Don't even put Cassell in the same category as Palmer man or I am gonna chane your name to sillychiefsfan

What has Palmer done that Cassel has not?

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 03:15 PM
What has Palmer done that Cassel has not?

Heisman Trophy?

the Talking Can
10-21-2011, 03:17 PM
What has Palmer done that Cassel has not?

spent the first half of a season at home baking cookies?

Ugly Duck
10-21-2011, 03:17 PM
The Raiders are desperate. I don't know if you realize that.

Trading for Palmer was obviously a desperation move to salvage the season after Campbell went down. Everyone recognizes that. Waddya think we are - stoopid?


Dominant mediocrity.

Hey - you take what you can get!

FringeNC
10-21-2011, 03:18 PM
Jason La Canfora:

Raiders practice this week have told me they think based on what they've seen would be ambitious for Palmer to be able to start Sun ...

Buddy Rich
10-21-2011, 03:19 PM
Heisman Trophy?

As a Raiders fan, that doesn't mean a thing. This was a TERRIBLE trade.

That said, we don't need anything close to Tom Brady to beat the Chiefs.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 03:20 PM
Trading for Palmer was obviously a desperation move to salvage the season after Campbell went down. Everyone recognizes that. Waddya think we are - stoopid?




Hey - you take what you can get!

Chiefs would have packed it in and started playing for a draft pick

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 03:20 PM
Jason La Canfora:

Raiders practice this week have told me they think based on what they've seen would be ambitious for Palmer to be able to start Sun ...

bust

BossChief
10-21-2011, 03:20 PM
Seriously? An 8 game winning streak vs the AFCW? Wow - now that is dominance! Whoa... so if we beat KC on Sunday it will be 9-0 in the division. Then a rest-up to face Baby Jesus & the Donks... thats a 10-game win streak. Has that level of dominance ever existed before in the history of the NFL? Well, I guess there's no argument about which team is the best in the division....

What really is funny is you guys played the same easy schedule we did and only won 2 games outside the division.

the Talking Can
10-21-2011, 03:21 PM
Jason La Canfora:

Raiders practice this week have told me they think based on what they've seen would be ambitious for Palmer to be able to start Sun ...

one doesn't transition from Dunkin Donuts to the NFL in a few days...

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 03:21 PM
Don't even put Cassell in the same category as Palmer man or I am gonna chane your name to sillychiefsfan

Any objective analysis of their last three seasons put them in the same category.

As in, mediocre QB, not gonna carry a team, at best game-manager.

Heck, Cassel has a higher passer rating, higher yards per pass, higher percentage of throws over 15 yards.

All in all, Carson has the 'name'.... but cassel has the game.

Well, between THESE two QB's anyways. Granted, when compared to a good QB.... they both fail..... but if Palmer is a franchise QB.... then Cassel is too.

And, we know that isn't true.....

You can look at the stats yourself. You can talk about lack of talent and I will just point to the fact that Cassel hasn't had a bunch of world beaters around him either.

In fact, you can take Matt Cassel, Mark Sanchez AND Carson Palmer, put them in each other's uniforms and on each other's teams... and you would be hard pressed to find much of a difference in talent.

About the only difference is Cassel and Sachez are more athletic.

Palmer has a slightly better arm, but is more prone to mistakes.

They all suck under pressure.

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 03:21 PM
too bad I wanted to see carson get broken in half

BigMeatballDave
10-21-2011, 03:21 PM
Heisman Trophy?

LMAO

FringeNC
10-21-2011, 03:22 PM
one doesn't transition from Dunkin Donuts to the NFL in a few days...

"based on what the've seen" LOL.

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 03:22 PM
LMAO

Well yah didnt you know that the Heisman was guaranted NFL dominance?

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 03:23 PM
Trading for Palmer was obviously a desperation move to salvage the season after Campbell went down. Everyone recognizes that. Waddya think we are - stoopid?




Not you so much.

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 03:23 PM
"based on what the've seen" LOL.

did they see that same picture that looked like he had AIDS from this thread????

the Talking Can
10-21-2011, 03:26 PM
the Raiders will have the worst starting QB in the league on sunday.....


no wonder they aren't the defending AFC West Division Champions

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 03:30 PM
Chiefs would have packed it in and started playing for a draft pick

So much better than trading for an over the hill QB that won't win you many games anyways.

Chronic
10-21-2011, 03:56 PM
http://www.dimensionsguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Dental-Floss.jpg


Oops.. my bad

You guys just need a rolled up wash cloth to floss

How do I delete this.. my bad.. really sorry

Chocolate Hog
10-21-2011, 04:02 PM
Isn't Boller 2-11 in his last 13 starts?

Chronic
10-21-2011, 04:04 PM
Chief fans try and pretend "It's only the Raiders" this week

http://cfdsc.org/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_177939/pee~pants.JPG

TheGuardian
10-21-2011, 04:05 PM
We're about to crush the fucking Raiders.......

RaiderJave
10-21-2011, 04:08 PM
Isn't Boller 2-11 in his last 13 starts?

Isn't this the same Chiefs team that's 3 losses have a combined score 109-27? Yet the bravado and outright arrogance about how bad Oakland is and how your going to crush us just has me ROFL

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 04:12 PM
Palmer will start... Hue is bluffing..

RaiderJave
10-21-2011, 04:13 PM
We're about to crush the ****ing Raiders.......

Seriously? LOL, you guys beat two winless teams and are talking smack? WOW hahahahaha ok, bring it Sunday then.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 04:13 PM
Chief fans try and pretend "It's only the Raiders" this week

http://cfdsc.org/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_177939/pee~pants.JPG


Poor Guy ROFL

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 04:17 PM
Hue presser a little while ago

http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Coach-Jackson-10-21-11/591462c7-6116-4286-9c9a-dd96f9ba5d49

bank on it, it's Palmer with the start

TheGuardian
10-21-2011, 04:23 PM
Hue presser a little while ago

http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Coach-Jackson-10-21-11/591462c7-6116-4286-9c9a-dd96f9ba5d49

bank on it, it's Palmer with the start

No, he's not.

And either way, you're fucked.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 04:24 PM
No, he's not.

And either way, you're ****ed.

Ok ROFL

Ugly Duck
10-21-2011, 04:27 PM
Note on the 4th round pick OAK has to give up for Jason Campbell: Its a conditional pick. If Campbell makes the ProBowl in 2011 or 1012, Raiders owe Skins a 4th, or, if OAK makes in playoffs in 2011 or 2012 with Campbell as the starter, Raiders owe Skins a 4th. Otherwise, OAK don't owe the Skins nothin.

BossChief
10-21-2011, 04:29 PM
Poor Guy ROFL

haha

black coat

grey shoes

grey collar

I bet if he turned around that jacket has a raiders emblem on the back.

jettio
10-21-2011, 04:34 PM
Seriously? An 8 game winning streak vs the AFCW? Wow - now that is dominance! Whoa... so if we beat KC on Sunday it will be 9-0 in the division. Then a rest-up to face Baby Jesus & the Donks... thats a 10-game win streak. Has that level of dominance ever existed before in the history of the NFL? Well, I guess there's no argument about which team is the best in the division....

No team ever swept its division and missed the playoffs, except for the 2010 Raiders. The 2011 Raiders are not even in first place. A team has to win a couple of games outside its division to finish high enough in the standings to be the best team from that division.

The 2010 Arizona Cardinals beat the 2010 Raiders in Oakland, you are right there is no argument, the Raiders have not accomplished anything.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 04:35 PM
Note on the 4th round pick OAK has to give up for Jason Campbell: Its a conditional pick. If Campbell makes the ProBowl in 2011 or 1012, Raiders owe Skins a 4th, or, if OAK makes in playoffs in 2011 or 2012 with Campbell as the starter, Raiders owe Skins a 4th. Otherwise, OAK don't owe the Skins nothin.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/07-49/674129448-ohnoes.gif

We are so Screeeeeeeewed

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 04:36 PM
No team ever swept its division and missed the playoffs, except for the 2010 Raiders. The 2011 Raiders are not even in first place. A team has to win a couple of games outside its division to finish high enough in the standings to be the best team from that division.

The 2010 Arizona Cardinals beat the 2010 Raiders in Oakland, you are right there is no argument, the Raiders have not accomplished anything.

I think the Raiders lost in Arizona because Jano missed a 24 yard FG as time expired....

It was destiny man

Rain Man
10-21-2011, 04:43 PM
We should put some rumors out there that we're signing Kimo von Oelhoffen just to mess with Palmer's head.

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 05:23 PM
Isn't this the same Chiefs team that's 3 losses have a combined score 109-27? Yet the bravado and outright arrogance about how bad Oakland is and how your going to crush us just has me ROFL

I don't think anyone believes the Chiefs will crush you.

Now, I thought, even before the Campbell injury that the Chiefs would give Oakland more of a run than the Raiders fans thought.

Now, without Jano and with Carson OR Boller..... the Chiefs have a very good chance to beat the Raiders.

Hue Jackson has impressed me this year as a coach. Now, I am not impressed with the trade for Palmer, but between the lines... the Raiders are inspired and playing hard.

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 05:24 PM
Note on the 4th round pick OAK has to give up for Jason Campbell: Its a conditional pick. If Campbell makes the ProBowl in 2011 or 1012, Raiders owe Skins a 4th, or, if OAK makes in playoffs in 2011 or 2012 with Campbell as the starter, Raiders owe Skins a 4th. Otherwise, OAK don't owe the Skins nothin.

Well, that's good. Now, at least you only have like 100 picks before the Raiders get to select someone.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 05:26 PM
I see these morons are still homering on. The prisons in Cali sure are lenient with allowing internet usage.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:26 PM
I don't think anyone believes the Chiefs will crush you.

Now, I thought, even before the Campbell injury that the Chiefs would give Oakland more of a run than the Raiders fans thought.

Now, without Jano and with Carson OR Boller..... the Chiefs have a very good chance to beat the Raiders.

Hue Jackson has impressed me this year as a coach. Now, I am not impressed with the trade for Palmer, but between the lines... the Raiders are inspired and playing hard.

I can appreciate a man who has faith in his team, even when the Raiders were worse than bad I always felt like they could beat anyone.

The Bad Guy
10-21-2011, 05:27 PM
If the Raiders were making this move, why make it in Week 7?

Hue has apparently loved Carson for a while. Why pay that price now when in the off-season, the leverage Brown would have would be less. They paid the highest price because they were in panic mode.

The Raiders aren't competing with the NFL elite this year

BigMeatballDave
10-21-2011, 05:27 PM
We should put some rumors out there that we're signing Kimo von Oelhoffen just to mess with Palmer's head.

LMAO

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:27 PM
I see these morons are still homering on. The prisons in Cali sure are lenient with allowing internet usage.

I scrubbed the toilets with a toothbrush to get an extra hour of internet time.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:28 PM
If the Raiders were making this move, why make it in Week 7?

Hue has apparently loved Carson for a while. Why pay that price now when in the off-season, the leverage Brown would have would be less. They paid the highest price because they were in panic mode.

The Raiders aren't competing with the NFL elite this year

Al liked JC is why

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 05:29 PM
I can appreciate a man who has faith in his team, even when the Raiders were worse than bad I always felt like they could beat anyone.

That's retardation, not faith in a team.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 05:29 PM
I scrubbed the toilets with a toothbrush to get an extra hour of internet time.

I guess it's better than getting your ass scrubbed with a toothbrush.

Deberg_1990
10-21-2011, 05:30 PM
If the Raiders were making this move, why make it in Week 7?

Hue has apparently loved Carson for a while. Why pay that price now when in the off-season, the leverage Brown would have would be less. They paid the highest price because they were in panic mode.

The Raiders aren't competing with the NFL elite this year

Of course they are desperate. Wouldnt any team in a similiar situation be as well? You cant trot Kyler Boller or a rookie QB out there on a first place team. You cant do that to your fanbase.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:30 PM
I guess it's better than getting your ass scrubbed with a toothbrush.

Thats a little homo erotic right there... Is that you Pawnmower?

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 05:31 PM
Is there such thing as a rich Raider fan that's white? Every Raider fan I know is poor to average, Mexican or black and is divorced.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:31 PM
Is there such thing as a rich Raider fan that's white? Every Raider fan I know is poor to average, Mexican or black and is divorced.

Define rich

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 05:31 PM
Of course they are desperate. Wouldnt any team in a similiar situation be as well? You cant trot Kyler Boller or a rookie QB out there on a first place team. You cant do that to your fanbase.

Selling out your future for a faux run at a title is much worse.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 05:32 PM
Define rich

The opposite of a Raider fan's yearly income.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:33 PM
Selling out your future for a faux run at a title is much worse.

But you guys never sell your future out and suck every year

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:34 PM
The opposite of a Raider fan's yearly income.

You know if you eat one time a day and have a roof over your head without a dime in your pocket, you are richer than 75% of the worlds population.

TheGuardian
10-21-2011, 05:34 PM
But you guys never sell your future out and suck every year

And you guys don't? What, you didn't suck 9 years ago or whatever?

The Raiders aren't a championship team. That defense is fucking atrocious.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:35 PM
And you guys don't? What, you didn't suck 9 years ago or whatever?

The Raiders aren't a championship team. That defense is ****ing atrocious.

It has been a long drought but it has been much longer for Chief fans...

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 05:37 PM
You know if you eat one time a day and have a roof over your head without a dime in your pocket, you are richer than 75% of the worlds population.
That's hilarious coming from a Raider fan. Gotta be optimistic about something ;)

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 05:40 PM
And you guys don't? What, you didn't suck 9 years ago or whatever?

The Raiders aren't a championship team. That defense is fucking atrocious.

Looks like we've been introduced to Faider True Fans. Ugly, R8ers, Chimpionship, Cronic are riding in the front of the Short Bus due to a 4-2 start and acquiring a broke dick QB.

BigMeatballDave
10-21-2011, 05:42 PM
It has been a long drought but it has been much longer for Chief fans...

Why do you keep deflecting? We aren't the ones saying we are going to win this. We are quite aware of our teams failures.

SDChiefs
10-21-2011, 05:42 PM
You know if you eat one time a day and have a roof over your head without a dime in your pocket, you are richer than 75% of the worlds population.

Raider fans are not 75 percent of the worlds population.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:42 PM
That's hilarious coming from a Raider fan. Gotta be optimistic about something ;)

I don't live there and have never been there but.....

$48,596 Oakland California per capita income
$20,753 Kansas City, Missouri per capita income

the Talking Can
10-21-2011, 05:45 PM
But you guys never sell your future out and suck every year



we were division champs last year


oakland was....nothing

and this year oakland is....nothing

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:45 PM
we were division champs last year


oakland was....nothing

and this year oakland is....nothing
I love you

the Talking Can
10-21-2011, 05:46 PM
I love you

been in jail that long?

Ugly Duck
10-21-2011, 05:47 PM
But you guys never sell your future out and suck every year

Oakland is a pretty young team... over 3/4 of the starters are under 28 years old. Heck, 12 of 'em are under 25. Our "missing" picks aren't really missing - we took players now instead of in the draft. There are actually players represented by those "missing" slots. Giving up a low 1st & a 2nd doesn't necessarily "mortgage the future" of a young team. Raiders do have a relatively small window, though. They have to make the run before McFadden & Palmer wear out.

Kevin Boss (27)
Tyvon Branch (24)
Aaron Curry (25)
Jacoby Ford (24)
Darrius Heyward Bey (24)
Lamarr Houston (24)
Rolando McClain (22)
Darren McFadden (24)
Denarius Moore (22)
Marcel Reese (26)
Michael Huff (28)
Stanford Routt (28)
Samson Satele (26)
Demarcus Van Dyke (22)
Jared Veldheer (24)
Kamerion Wimbley (28)
Stephen Wisniewski (22)
Matt Shaughnessy (25)

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:47 PM
Why do you keep deflecting? We aren't the ones saying we are going to win this. We are quite aware of our teams failures.

We? You got a mouse in your pocket?

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:48 PM
Oakland is a pretty young team... over 3/4 of the starters are under 28 years old. Heck, 12 of 'em are under 25. Our "missing" picks aren't really missing - we took players now instead of in the draft. There are actually players represented by those "missing" slots. Giving up a low 1st & a 2nd doesn't necessarily "mortgage the future" of a young team. Raiders do have a relatively small window, though. They have to make the run before McFadden & Palmer wear out.

Or free agency more likely

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 05:48 PM
Oakland is a pretty young team... over 3/4 of the starters are under 28 years old. Heck, 12 of 'em are under 25. Our "missing" picks aren't really missing - we took players now instead of in the draft. There are actually players represented by those "missing" slots. Giving up a low 1st & a 2nd doesn't necessarily "mortgage the future" of a young team. Raiders do have a relatively small window, though. They have to make the run before McFadden & Palmer wear out.

:homer:

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 05:49 PM
Hue presser a little while ago

http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Coach-Jackson-10-21-11/591462c7-6116-4286-9c9a-dd96f9ba5d49

bank on it, it's Palmer with the start

I hate to say this... but I really like Hue Jackson.

I thought hiring him would be a mistake. And, I guess it still may end up being a mistake..... but I really like his style and speaking ability.

I know that the Raiders are trying to give the Chiefs the most to prepare for. I won't be surprised no matter who starts for the Raiders.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 05:50 PM
Oakland is a pretty young team... over 3/4 of the starters are under 28 years old. Heck, 12 of 'em are under 25. Our "missing" picks aren't really missing - we took players now instead of in the draft. There are actually players represented by those "missing" slots. Giving up a low 1st & a 2nd doesn't necessarily "mortgage the future" of a young team. Raiders do have a relatively small window, though. They have to make the run before McFadden & Palmer wear out.

LMAO Better hurry and build on that Super Bowl 8-8 season last year with those two proven studs. McFadden hasn't hurt his vagina this year yet which is impressive.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 05:51 PM
:homer:

These Raider fans really think their team is a contender. They're saying things like "window" and "time" LMAO

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:51 PM
I hate to say this... but I really like Hue Jackson.

I thought hiring him would be a mistake. And, I guess it still may end up being a mistake..... but I really like his style and speaking ability.

I know that the Raiders are trying to give the Chiefs the most to prepare for. I won't be surprised no matter who starts for the Raiders.

No smart coach would give any team an advantage if he does not have too. If the Raiders can get the ball out when you guys stack the box will be the key for us.

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 05:53 PM
Chiefs do have a relatively small window, though. They have to make the run before Holmes & Green wear out.


Chiefs fans circa 2003.

Ugly Duck
10-21-2011, 05:53 PM
8-8 season last year with those two proven studs.

Carson Palmer was a Bengal last year. Oakland just recently traded for him - blockbuster deal - its all over the sports world news... turn on ESPN

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 05:53 PM
These Raider fans really think their team is a contender. They're saying things like "window" and "time" LMAO

They are worse than KnowMo, because they actually believe it. It's really kind of sad.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 05:54 PM
Carson Palmer was a Bengal last year. Oakland just recently traded for him - blockbuster deal - its all over the sports world news... turn on ESPN

...and last year Cassel>Palmer, so deal with it.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 05:54 PM
Carson Palmer was a Bengal last year. Oakland just recently traded for him - blockbuster deal - its all over the sports world news... turn on ESPN

It was a blockbuster deal for the Bengals. The Raiders got raped. Again.

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 05:54 PM
No smart coach would give any team an advantage if he does not have too. If the Raiders can get the ball out when you guys stack the box will be the key for us.

I think that Boller is the better option for this week. He is more mobilie and Palmer won't know all the hot routes yet. He won't know the WR's yet.

I would have to think this is one of the most intriguing games of the week IF Palmer starts.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:55 PM
It was a blockbuster deal for the Bengals. The Raiders got raped. Again.

LETS talk about that per capita thing that was a concern to you.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 05:55 PM
I think that Boller is the better option for this week. He is more mobilie and Palmer won't know all the hot routes yet. He won't know the WR's yet.

I would have to think this is one of the most intriguing games of the week IF Palmer starts.

Happy Feet.............. we will see

The Bad Guy
10-21-2011, 05:57 PM
Of course they are desperate. Wouldnt any team in a similiar situation be as well? You cant trot Kyler Boller or a rookie QB out there on a first place team. You cant do that to your fanbase.

They are going to be trotting Carson Palmer out there without the luxury of a training camp or off-season to get on the same page as his receivers.

By Week 12, they are going to be 3 games behind SD.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 05:59 PM
LETS talk about that per capita thing that was a concern to you.

Raider fans are black, mexican and poor. That's not concerning, that's expected.

The Bad Guy
10-21-2011, 06:05 PM
Why does R8ers care about per capita of KC and Oakland? He lives in a fucking shack in North Carolina.

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 06:05 PM
They are going to be trotting Carson Palmer out there without the luxury of a training camp or off-season to get on the same page as his receivers.

By Week 12, they are going to be 3 games behind SD.

They are one game out now. I would expect more of a gap by week 12.

I can't wait to see this game. I am more anxious about this game than any other this year.

After the drubbing by the Bills and Oakland..... then the loss against the Bolts....

It took more than a win to get me optimistic. Not about winning the West, but just winning a game....period.

It isn't just about whether the Chiefs can win this week, it is about who is starting for the Raiders and whether Boller or Palmer can lead the team.

I am glad the Raiders made this trade during this week. It gives this week so much more interest.

If it were just Boller, then the Chiefs may win, but it wouldn't be near this interesting.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 06:05 PM
Raider fans are black, mexican and poor. That's not concerning, that's expected.

Who cares what race they are?

Okie_Apparition
10-21-2011, 06:10 PM
ONly Chiefsplanet thinks this is a bad trade. THe rest the AFC West forums are pissing in their pantaloones

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 06:11 PM
Kansas City had the top-rated offense, but the Raiders' defense was able to hold them to 115 yards on the ground

Last game

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 06:12 PM
Who cares what race they are?

That's why the Raiders have the dumbest fans. Their colors appeal to the uneducated and unemployed. "check out that jarmacus jersey essay, wow cool chico, im a raydu fan now holmes." black guy- "shittttt this shit be the shit!...it's black and shit!!!"

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 06:12 PM
ONly Chiefsplanet thinks this is a bad trade. THe rest the AFC West forums are pissing in their pantaloones

Why? They aren't getting pre-injury Palmer. They are getting Carson Cassel.

SDChiefs
10-21-2011, 06:13 PM
I don't live there and have never been there but.....

$48,596 Oakland California per capita income
$20,753 Kansas City, Missouri per capita income

Funny how you don't take into account cost of living. And I call bullshit on oakland making 50k a year. It is the shithole of cali and you're saying they make more than san diego and la residents. No fucking way.

RaiderJave
10-21-2011, 06:14 PM
...and last year Cassel>Palmer, so deal with it.

Seriously? This is your argument? Cassel is a soup sandwich. Even KC fans don't want him.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 06:15 PM
Seriously? This is your argument? Cassel is a soup sandwich. Even KC fans don't want him.

Cassel and Palmer are both shit.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 06:16 PM
That's why the Raiders have the dumbest fans. Their colors appeal to the uneducated and unemployed. "check out that jarmacus jersey essay, wow cool chico, im a raydu fan now holmes." black guy- "shittttt this shit be the shit!...it's black and shit!!!"

Alienate Much?

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 06:17 PM
Seriously? This is your argument? Cassel is a soup sandwich. Even KC fans don't want him.

...and what does that say about Palmer. Sad that I have to spell it out for ya.

BigMeatballDave
10-21-2011, 06:17 PM
NOBODY is giving the Chiefs ANY chance of winning this game.

I hope the players notice this.

Okie_Apparition
10-21-2011, 06:17 PM
If they're wearing pantaloones, who cares

RINGLEADER
10-21-2011, 06:17 PM
Of course Cassell is better, My God didn't you guys pay 60 million + for him?

Actually, I was using this as a way to illustrate just how bad Palmer has been in recent years...

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 06:18 PM
Alienate Much?

No, stereotyping. They're funny because they're true. lol

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 06:19 PM
Seriously? This is your argument? Cassel is a soup sandwich. Even KC fans don't want him.

Well, some fans do.....

Personally, I just think he is an average QB. I think he better than about half the starting QB's in the league.... but he isn't elite.

Basically, about what Carson Palmer is. Only, Cassel has had better numbers in two of the last three full seasons, and is on pace to be better than Palmer has averaged over the last five years.

I was really surprised when I looked at the numbers. I knew Palmer had been pretty pedestrian as a QB of late, but I didn't realize how well Cassel compared to him.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 06:20 PM
Well, some fans do.....

Personally, I just think he is an average QB. I think he better than about half the starting QB's in the league.... but he isn't elite.

Basically, about what Carson Palmer is. Only, Cassel has had better numbers in two of the last three full seasons, and is on pace to be better than Palmer has averaged over the last five years.

I was really surprised when I looked at the numbers. I knew Palmer had been pretty pedestrian as a QB of late, but I didn't realize how well Cassel compared to him.

He's a name. A guy to get fairweather fans excited. A guy they can win a title with in Madden, but not in the real world.

RINGLEADER
10-21-2011, 06:20 PM
Alright, so we get Kyle Boller. Cool.

Man oh man...

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 06:20 PM
Actually, I was using this as a way to illustrate just how bad Palmer has been in recent years...

Show me what constitutes Palmer being bad in these stats.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7749/captureux.png

FringeNC
10-21-2011, 06:23 PM
I don't live there and have never been there but.....

$48,596 Oakland California per capita income
$20,753 Kansas City, Missouri per capita income

Not that it's good smack anyway, but at least get the real numbers and not make them up.

RINGLEADER
10-21-2011, 06:23 PM
Show me what constitutes Palmer being bad in these stats.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7749/captureux.png

His passer rating is worse than Cassel's since his leg injury? We all know Cassel is terrible...

RINGLEADER
10-21-2011, 06:23 PM
The Raiders are very banged up. Cornerback Chris Johnson (groin) is out. A number of questionable Raiders missed practice Friday:

RB Rock Cartwright (calf), K Sebastian Janikowski (left hamstring), LB Rolando McClain (ankle), RB Marcel Reece (ankle), and DT Richard Seymour (knee) all did not practice.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 06:23 PM
His passer rating is worse than Cassel's since his leg injury? We all know Cassel is terrible...

He played for Cincinatti man :doh!:

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 06:25 PM
The Raiders are very banged up. Cornerback Chris Johnson (groin) is out. A number of questionable Raiders missed practice Friday:

RB Rock Cartwright (calf), K Sebastian Janikowski (left hamstring), LB Rolando McClain (ankle), RB Marcel Reece (ankle), and DT Richard Seymour (knee) all did not practice.

Bout the same as 2 weeks ago against the Texans with the exception of Seabass... Roland will play Seymour will play Reece should be back this week Really missing Chris Johnson though.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 06:26 PM
Here's a stat for you 0 as in his playoff victories.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 06:27 PM
He played for Cincinatti man :doh!:

That matters? If you're good, you're good. He's not. He's gotten progressively worse every year he's been in the league.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 06:27 PM
I gotta go to work and I will continue this beatdown about 2am








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Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 06:27 PM
He played for Cincinatti man :doh!:

...and now the Faiders :LOL:

RaiderJave
10-21-2011, 06:28 PM
Here's a stat for you 0 as in his playoff victories.

KC fans know all about this stat.

R8RFAN
10-21-2011, 06:28 PM
That matters? If you're good, you're good. He's not. He's gotten progressively worse every year he's been in the league.

I can't talk to you right now because I lost alot of respect for you a few mins ago.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 06:28 PM
I gotta go to work and I will continue this beatdown about 2am








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Have fun drug dealing. Don't get caught.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-21-2011, 06:29 PM
KC fans know all about this stat.

KC fans aren't crowing about being contendahs

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 06:29 PM
I can't talk to you right now because I lost alot of respect for you a few mins ago.

NO!!! PLEASE!!! COME BACK!!! NO!!! PLEASE NOT THAT!!!


Fuck off Raider fan. ROFL

RaiderJave
10-21-2011, 06:38 PM
Ya know, honestly....Cassel isn't the problem. Your coach blows chunks. That dude is one of the worst coaches in the NFL. He's so bad, I'm surprised Oakland didn't try to hire him a few years ago. This is not a troll post, honestly, he's just a horrible coach.

I remember last year, wish I remembered the game, but Cassel threw a touchdown and everyone was high fiving" and celebrating as Cassel went to the sidelines. Haley ran over to him and Cassel just starred at him and walked away. I remember saying to my wife, "wooo, there's a problem".
The other issue I have seen is his crying after the Chiefs get stomped. Acting like a baby after getting drilled, not shaking hands with opposing coaches etc....
He's an embarrassment to your team. I think if you guys get a better coach, you have the athletes, KC just needs leadership, and Haley isn't it.

Just my opinion though.

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 06:39 PM
He played for Cincinatti man :doh!:

Yeah, but it isn't like the Chiefs have got a ton of talent around Cassel. They are still building.

Heck, this year, two of the Chiefs biggest weapons on offense went down.

And, he STILL has numbers this year that project to be better than most of Palmers seasons. Not the yards, but the passer rating, TD's, Int's, average per pass and percentage of passes downfield all on par with Carson.

Time will tell.... but don't get it twisted about what Palmer is.

KcMizzou
10-21-2011, 06:40 PM
NO!!! PLEASE!!! COME BACK!!! NO!!! PLEASE NOT THAT!!!


Sorry bro, but we'll still play you at Arrowhead if ya want.

Oh, wait...

SenselessChiefsFan
10-21-2011, 06:42 PM
Ya know, honestly....Cassel isn't the problem. Your coach blows chunks. That dude is one of the worst coaches in the NFL. He's so bad, I'm surprised Oakland didn't try to hire him a few years ago. This is not a troll post, honestly, he's just a horrible coach.

I remember last year, wish I remembered the game, but Cassel threw a touchdown and everyone was high fiving" and celebrating as Cassel went to the sidelines. Haley ran over to him and Cassel just starred at him and walked away. I remember saying to my wife, "wooo, there's a problem".
The other issue I have seen is his crying after the Chiefs get stomped. Acting like a baby after getting drilled, not shaking hands with opposing coaches etc....
He's an embarrassment to your team. I think if you guys get a better coach, you have the athletes, KC just needs leadership, and Haley isn't it.

Just my opinion though.

He was not my favorite hire.....nor was Romeo Crennel. Romeo gets a lot of love on this board. I think he is a good coach, just not MY kind of DC.

Of course, my kind of DC is more of a Gunther Cunningham... and he sucked during his second stint with the Chiefs. (Honestly think that had more to do with his and Herm's conflict of style.... but, I digress).

I think Haley is a better coach that he has gotten credit for. But, I think he struggles to get along with other good offensive coordinators that are just as smart as he is.

He seems to have a pride issue.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 06:43 PM
Ya know, honestly....Cassel isn't the problem. Your coach blows chunks. That dude is one of the worst coaches in the NFL. He's so bad, I'm surprised Oakland didn't try to hire him a few years ago. This is not a troll post, honestly, he's just a horrible coach.

I remember last year, wish I remembered the game, but Cassel threw a touchdown and everyone was high fiving" and celebrating as Cassel went to the sidelines. Haley ran over to him and Cassel just starred at him and walked away. I remember saying to my wife, "wooo, there's a problem".
The other issue I have seen is his crying after the Chiefs get stomped. Acting like a baby after getting drilled, not shaking hands with opposing coaches etc....
He's an embarrassment to your team. I think if you guys get a better coach, you have the athletes, KC just needs leadership, and Haley isn't it.

Just my opinion though.
Our coach is bad? Ice Cube just backed giving up two potential first round picks for a guy that hasn't been good since 2005. You only give up that kind of jack for a Brady or a Rodgers. Not fucking Carson Palmer. And our coach blows? Same ole Raiders.

Okie_Apparition
10-21-2011, 06:48 PM
Tom Cable wasn't available

RaiderJave
10-21-2011, 06:50 PM
Our coach is bad? Ice Cube just backed giving up two potential first round picks for a guy that hasn't been good since 2005. You only give up that kind of jack for a Brady or a Rodgers. Not ****ing Carson Palmer. And our coach blows? Same ole Raiders.

Hue has known Carson since high school. He's a first year head coach who's 4-2 after playing the Jets, Patriots, Bills and Texans. Three of the best teams in the NFL. I understand your not impressed, but no offense, I trust Hue's judgment more then yours. If he says it's worth it, I have to believe him.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-21-2011, 06:57 PM
Hue has known Carson since high school. He's a first year head coach who's 4-2 after playing the Jets, Patriots, Bills and Texans. Three of the best teams in the NFL. I understand your not impressed, but no offense, I trust Hue's judgment more then yours. If he says it's worth it, I have to believe him.

You haven't beaten anybody yet. Your wins have come against the Jets, Texans, Broncos and Browns. Color me unimpressed. Paper tigers.

You're retarded for thinking Carson is a good move.

BossChief
10-21-2011, 06:57 PM
He's a first year head coach who's 4-2 after playing the Jets, Patriots, Bills and Texans. Three of the best teams in the NFL.

another raider fan that couldn't get past second grade

lewdog
10-21-2011, 07:01 PM
He's a first year head coach who's 4-2 after playing the Jets, Patriots, Bills and Texans. Three of the best teams in the NFL..

Wait...it will look really impressive if I list the good teams the Raiders have played even though they have only beat two of them.

Solid logic there.

RaiderJave
10-21-2011, 07:08 PM
Ok well, ya all can tell me Sunday how your the better team, and what a retarded trade Palmer was. See ya then!

O.city
10-21-2011, 07:09 PM
Good grief this thread needs to die.

The Raiders are 3-2 and were pretty much given a win by the Texans, but did give a win away to the Bills.

Sunday's game will be close, but I think the Raiders prob. win. Unless we can stop the run we probably lose an ugly game.

whoman69
10-21-2011, 07:10 PM
Hue has known Carson since high school. He's a first year head coach who's 4-2 after playing the Jets, Patriots, Bills and Texans. Three of the best teams in the NFL. I understand your not impressed, but no offense, I trust Hue's judgment more then yours. If he says it's worth it, I have to believe him.

Carson Palmer 2006 version might be worth that. Patriots and perhaps Bills might be amongst the best teams, but no way are the Jets and Texans there. He is a first year coach and I'm guessing he's never been asked to be the GM too.

O.city
10-21-2011, 07:11 PM
Ok well, ya all can tell me Sunday how your the better team, and what a retarded trade Palmer was. See ya then!

Palmer isn't playing, dumbass. And if he does, after being on the team for less than a week, you Faider fans should be really questioning your coaching staff.

SDChiefs
10-21-2011, 07:12 PM
Hue has known Carson since high school. He's a first year head coach who's 4-2 after playing the Jets, Patriots, Bills and Texans. Three of the best teams in the NFL. I understand your not impressed, but no offense, I trust Hue's judgment more then yours. If he says it's worth it, I have to believe him.

Scott pioli is the "executive of the decade" but we all know how the cassel trade turned out.

lewdog
10-21-2011, 07:12 PM
Ok well, ya all can tell me Sunday how your the better team, and what a retarded trade Palmer was. See ya then!

Will he score the Raiders some points from the bench?

BossChief
10-21-2011, 07:12 PM
Ok well, ya all can tell me Sunday how your the better team, and what a retarded trade Palmer was. See ya then!

Keep posting, fool.

You can always go back to school...

BossChief
10-21-2011, 07:15 PM
Scott pioli is the "executive of the decade" but we all know how the cassel trade turned out.

Meh

Everyone makes mistakes

RINGLEADER
10-21-2011, 07:16 PM
I hate to say this... but I really like Hue Jackson.

I thought hiring him would be a mistake. And, I guess it still may end up being a mistake..... but I really like his style and speaking ability.

I know that the Raiders are trying to give the Chiefs the most to prepare for. I won't be surprised no matter who starts for the Raiders.

I agree with this post.

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 07:17 PM
Chief fans try and pretend "It's only the Raiders" this week


Wait so we have to play a good team this this week or is it only Raiders??

Which is it?

RINGLEADER
10-21-2011, 07:18 PM
ONly Chiefsplanet thinks this is a bad trade. THe rest the AFC West forums are pissing in their pantaloones

Tough to say whether it is good or bad yet. All you can do is point to Palmer's recent production which was on the decline, but it may end up being a great fit for him/Raiders. It was a steep price to pay, but only if it doesn't work out.

RINGLEADER
10-21-2011, 07:20 PM
Bout the same as 2 weeks ago against the Texans with the exception of Seabass... Roland will play Seymour will play Reece should be back this week Really missing Chris Johnson though.

Yep. That will hurt. If Seymour is gone too you'll be in a world of hurt, but you're probably correct that he plays. It's not like he really needs the practice. ;)

RINGLEADER
10-21-2011, 07:22 PM
Palmer sucks as a Raider on the new NFL Blitz. That settles it.

SDChiefs
10-21-2011, 07:24 PM
Scott pioli is the "executive of the decade" but we all know how the cassel trade turned out.

It turned out great pwnblower. We've had a shitty qb for three years but since you're ok with us sucking, I suppose I should as well. Because you have proven what a genius you are time and time again on here.

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 07:24 PM
Tough to say whether it is good or bad yet. All you can do is point to Palmer's recent production which was on the decline, but it may end up being a great fit for him/Raiders. It was a steep price to pay, but only if it doesn't work out.

I dunno...it is a steep price to pay regardless...If they win a superbowl this year (Much better than 'working out') then I'd say it was obviously worth it...

But I think I would need you to define 'working out' before I agree...

Imagine if the Raiders make the AFC champ game, and lose....and it costs them two #1's....

Is that 'working out' ? Is making the AFCC game worth two #1s if you never end up in the big show? I'm not sure...

I guess we will see but I highly doubt Carson will lead them to a superbowl....So the real question is making the playoffs and losing in the playoffs worth a number 1 and number 2 pick? (short term happiness until you get bounced from the playoffs)

Or, would you rather try and use those draft picks for a more long term approach.....

Tough call, but I lean toward long term unless the odds are REALLY good you will make noise in the playoffs...Which the Raiders won't do.

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 07:27 PM
It turned out great pwnblower. We've had a shitty qb for three years but since you're ok with us sucking, I suppose I should as well. Because you have proven what a genius you are time and time again on here.

So what would you have done with a 2nd round pick that wouldve had a better shot?

You call me a genius but you cry about losing a second round pick...What other QB options should we go with? LEt me guess, you cried for us to start Croyle? You begged for us to draft Sanchez?

Amirite?

You fail.

whoman69
10-21-2011, 07:33 PM
Anyone see that video of Palmer working out for the Raiders. Looked like it was filmed from a maximum security prison. How fitting.

SDChiefs
10-21-2011, 07:34 PM
So what would you have done with a 2nd round pick that wouldve had a better shot?

You call me a genius but you cry about losing a second round pick...What other QB options should we go with? LEt me guess, you cried for us to start Croyle? You begged for us to draft Sanchez?

Amirite?

You fail.

So in your opinion, trading a 2nd and 63mm on a shit qb who will hamstring the team for years is the smart thing? I would've used the 2ndteam on a qb in the draft. They don't make shit so therfore don't hamstring us for years. Plus I hate croyle and sanchez. But would've started croyle over trading for matt asshat.

Amirite?

If im fail you're epic fail.

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 07:41 PM
So in your opinion, trading a 2nd and 63mm

We dont 'trade' money you ****ign imbecile...and yes In my opinion it was worth a try....I guess you are smarter than everyone else for knowing it was such a bad deal....You should get a job with the NFL since you are so smart.

We are WAY under cap and have been, money isnt really an issue...

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 07:44 PM
would've started croyle over trading for matt asshat.



So your big solution for all your loud mouth broke dick complaints is you wouldve started Croyle....

Thats the best you can do when asked what options you wouldve taken?

You really are ****ing stupid....honestly...did you even graduate HS?

kysirsoze
10-21-2011, 07:48 PM
That's why the Raiders have the dumbest fans. Their colors appeal to the uneducated and unemployed. "check out that jarmacus jersey essay, wow cool chico, im a raydu fan now holmes." black guy- "shittttt this shit be the shit!...it's black and shit!!!"

WTF?

SDChiefs
10-21-2011, 07:50 PM
We dont 'trade' money you ****ign imbecile...and yes In my opinion it was worth a try....I guess you are smarter than everyone else for knowing it was such a bad deal....You should get a job with the NFL since you are so smart.

We are WAY under cap and have been, money isnt really an issue...

The money handicapped us by leaving us stuck with him you fucking maroon. Your and idiot whose whole family deserves to live in an aids forest and having antifreeze for breakfast, lunch and dinner. And the fact that my penis and its size is the first thing that comes to mind for you speaks volumes.

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 07:51 PM
The money handicapped us

No it didn't...We were MILLIONS of dollars under the cap you buffoon.

SDChiefs
10-21-2011, 07:59 PM
No it didn't...We were MILLIONS of dollars under the cap you buffoon.

Tell that to clark you idiot. And every other owner. They don't throw 60mm out there and next year say im done. I would peg your iq under 60. No over option.

SnakeXJones
10-21-2011, 08:00 PM
Tell that to clark you idiot. And every other owner. They don't throw 60mm out there and next year say im done. I would peg your iq under 60. No over option.

Dude.... how the fuck did it handicap us u dumbass?

SDChiefs
10-21-2011, 08:02 PM
Dude.... how the fuck did it handicap us u dumbass?

Do you think an owner will spend 60mm on a player and not give him several years to earn it. If you think they will, you're a dumbass.

Pawnmower
10-21-2011, 08:05 PM
Tell that to clark you idiot. And every other owner.

Clark and every other owner already know the chiefs pay-roll..and how LOW it is.

Are you rage-ing hard right now?

http://pauloflaherty.com/files/2011/09/U-Mad-Bro.jpg

SDChiefs
10-21-2011, 08:09 PM
Clark and every other owner already know the chiefs pay-roll..and how LOW it is.

Are you rage-ing hard right now?

http://pauloflaherty.com/files/2011/09/U-Mad-Bro.jpg

Wow. You truely are an idiot of epic proportions. Before you read shit you should learn the english language so you can put words and phraises into context. Until then, fuck off.

SnakeXJones
10-21-2011, 08:15 PM
Do you think an owner will spend 60mm on a player and not give him several years to earn it. If you think they will, you're a dumbass.

Jebus Christ your a fucking bafoon

SDChiefs
10-21-2011, 08:21 PM
Jebus Christ your a fucking bafoon

Lol. Ok. Jamarcus russell didn't get several years too. That's never happened before. You spend 60 mil and the player sucks, you just drop him. Happens all the time. Like cass... oh wait, were still stuck with him. Clark must be the odd man out. You're right. My intelligence bows to your superiority.

kysirsoze
10-21-2011, 08:24 PM
Lol. Ok. Jamarcus russell didn't get several years too. That's never happened before. You spend 60 mil and the player sucks, you just drop him. Happens all the time. Like cass... oh wait, were still stuck with him. Clark must be the odd man out. You're right. My intelligence bows to your superiority.

Russel got three years and was less proven. This is Cassel's third year as a Chief. I"m done with Cassel, but this point doesn't seem to make sense.

whoman69
10-21-2011, 08:28 PM
Do you think an owner will spend 60mm on a player and not give him several years to earn it. If you think they will, you're a dumbass.

At this point its about $43 million and won't cost anything more if we cut him after this year except a small cap hit for the rest of the bonus to kick.

SnakeXJones
10-21-2011, 08:29 PM
Lol. Ok. Jamarcus russell didn't get several years too. That's never happened before. You spend 60 mil and the player sucks, you just drop him. Happens all the time. Like cass... oh wait, were still stuck with him. Clark must be the odd man out. You're right. My intelligence bows to your superiority.

May it R.I.P.

milkman
10-22-2011, 09:01 AM
Yeah, but it isn't like the Chiefs have got a ton of talent around Cassel. They are still building.

Heck, this year, two of the Chiefs biggest weapons on offense went down.

And, he STILL has numbers this year that project to be better than most of Palmers seasons. Not the yards, but the passer rating, TD's, Int's, average per pass and percentage of passes downfield all on par with Carson.

Time will tell.... but don't get it twisted about what Palmer is.

Another illustration of the fact that stats mean jack.

Palmer hasn't been nearly the player since his knee got blown up that he was before, but if you told me I could trade Cassel for Palmer straight up, I wouldn't even give it a second thought before making that trade.

Palmer isn't good.
Cassel blows chunks.



Russel got three years and was less proven. This is Cassel's third year as a Chief. I"m done with Cassel, but this point doesn't seem to make sense.

But his point is still sound.

You give a player a big contract, and you have to give him a minimum of three years before you move on.

That's three years of wasted time that holds your team back.

R8RFAN
10-22-2011, 11:41 AM
Bout 28 hours until the beatdown

Pawnmower
10-22-2011, 12:01 PM
Bout 28 hours until the beatdown

You ready for this?

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you know who it is!


GO CHIEFS!!!!!

Win or lose we are gonna beat the fuck out of you and send you limping into your next game.

Short Leash Hootie
10-22-2011, 02:20 PM
I wouldn't trade cassel for palmer...id rather cut cassel and have neither

lcarus
10-22-2011, 02:28 PM
I wouldn't trade cassel for palmer...id rather cut cassel and have neither

I'd rather them both get swine flu and start Stanzi.

lewdog
10-22-2011, 02:46 PM
Do you think Raider fans have figured out that Palmer isn't playing tomorrow?

KCBOSS1
10-22-2011, 03:48 PM
I was hoping we would trade for Palmer when we got Cassel.

Molitoth
10-22-2011, 04:15 PM
It looks like the Raiders Super Bowl run is going to have to start in a few more weeks. :rolleyes:

Chiefs Pantalones
10-22-2011, 04:22 PM
I can't wait for the game to start and get over with. It smells like unemployment checks and food stamps with all the Raider fans consuming it.

SnakeXJones
10-22-2011, 04:26 PM
I am gonna be missing most of it since I have to leave for work but will be taping it

4th and Long
10-23-2011, 05:17 PM
Good trade! *nod nod nod* ROFL LMAO

Frazod
10-23-2011, 05:31 PM
Bout 28 hours until the beatdown

Well, at least you were right about one thing, fucktard. LMAO

Bwana
10-23-2011, 05:31 PM
Nice ASS KICKING!!

SPchief
10-23-2011, 05:32 PM
O HAI GUYZ!

Bwana
10-23-2011, 05:32 PM
Bout 28 hours until the beatdown

When does it start?

BigMeatballDave
10-23-2011, 05:33 PM
(crickets)

Bwana
10-23-2011, 05:41 PM
Broke dick.

The Bad Guy
10-23-2011, 05:43 PM
I bet R8ers lit his shack on fire tonight.

Count Alex's Losses
10-23-2011, 05:43 PM
Carson Facepalmer

:facepalm:

SenselessChiefsFan
10-23-2011, 05:46 PM
Bout 28 hours until the beatdown

Wow.... I thought it would be a lot closer. I overestimated the Raiders. Apparently, you knew all along.

Lzen
10-23-2011, 05:49 PM
Where are all the shit talkers? Chronic? R8ers?

Frazod
10-23-2011, 05:49 PM
I bet R8ers lit his shack on fire tonight.

Hopefully he was in it.

the Talking Can
10-23-2011, 05:52 PM
this is so epic i don't know what to say

thurman merman
10-23-2011, 05:56 PM
Where are all the shit talkers? Chronic? R8ers?

Probably at the game or in jail for inciting riots at the game.

Lzen
10-23-2011, 05:59 PM
Seriously? LOL, you guys beat two winless teams and are talking smack? WOW hahahahaha ok, bring it Sunday then.

Quality post. ROFL

thurman merman
10-23-2011, 06:01 PM
Is this the thread where Jacoby Ford was unstoppable? Or was that the other one? Or both?

Pawnmower
10-23-2011, 06:02 PM
r8ers you are a huge piece of shit......come eat your crow

Old Dog
10-23-2011, 06:02 PM
Is this the thread where Jacoby Ford was unstoppable? Or was that the other one? Or both?

Well, it wasn't the game thread

Count Alex's Losses
10-23-2011, 06:03 PM
Is this the thread where Jacoby Ford was unstoppable? Or was that the other one? Or both?

Ford had 18 yards on 3 touches today.

Which actually is below his season average of 20 yards a game.

Lzen
10-23-2011, 06:07 PM
Chiefs are dead last in points allowed

Raiders are gonna Fark that shit like a sewing machine

So hard in fact, the bottoms gonna fall out

ROFL

doomy3
10-23-2011, 06:08 PM
There are some gems in this thread.

Lzen
10-23-2011, 06:10 PM
Raiders are tied for 1st in the NFL for least amount of sacks given up- Raiders OL is stomping mud holes in teams ass

Expect Palmer to f*ck that Chiefs secondary so hard the bottoms gonna fall out

ROFL

:thumb:

TheGuardian
10-23-2011, 06:12 PM
where is all the f'n rep for me saying we were going to destroy the f'n Raiders all week?????

the Talking Can
10-23-2011, 06:21 PM
Raiders are tied for 1st in the NFL for least amount of sacks given up- Raiders OL is stomping mud holes in teams ass

Expect Palmer to f*ck that Chiefs secondary so hard the bottoms gonna fall out

ROFL


epic troll fail.....he'll never be back, so just ban him

ROFL

Ultra Peanut
10-23-2011, 06:23 PM
And I thought this was hilarious before the game. I was so innocent back then.

Bwana
10-23-2011, 06:25 PM
Where are all the shit talkers? Chronic? R8ers?

R8ers showed, Chronic is MIA. Chronic is Likely in the fetal position in a dark corner, alternating in between a long cry and hitting the meth pipe.

TheGuardian
10-23-2011, 06:26 PM
Anyone who thinks this makes the Raiders better or is a good deal surely doesn't posses a working brain that has to do with NFL football.

Hey the bitch who saved this post.........suck my salty ballz.

the Talking Can
10-23-2011, 06:27 PM
The Raiders are ready to win now, 9 years is a long time.
Carson is going to be a great QB for the Raiders, I know you guys don't want that just as I wouldn't if he were a Chief but he will probably be a thorn in your side for a 4 or 5 good years.

:LOL:

Radar Chief
10-23-2011, 06:29 PM
R8ers showed, Chronic is MIA. Chronic is Likely in the fetal position in a dark corner, alternating in between a long cry and hitting the meth pipe.

Which one is the dipshit that was saying, "the Raiders are built to win now"?

Radar Chief
10-23-2011, 06:30 PM
:LOL:

Oh, it was that one.

chiefscafan
10-23-2011, 06:31 PM
I said we could win IM impressed r8er came back.


We allways win the games people say there is no way we will win now we play for the division next Monday. In the immortal words of the road warriors "What a Rush!!ll

the Talking Can
10-23-2011, 06:31 PM
I think it's is gonna be well worth that just to see this forum go Nuclear when Palmer breaks one off in your ass ROFL

:LOL:


what a fucking moran....this is priceless

Extra Point
10-23-2011, 06:32 PM
One look at Palmer's legs in his first huddle, and I couldn't help but shart at the poor management that Son-of-Al Hairless Hue had whiffed, getting him.

A first rounder? ROFL!LMAO!RPFL!

TheGuardian
10-23-2011, 06:34 PM
ROFL


epic troll fail.....he'll never be back, so just ban him

ROFL

Fuck yeah, this one was MINT!

the Talking Can
10-23-2011, 06:34 PM
The Raiders are ready to win now, 9 years is a long time.
Carson is going to be a great QB for the Raiders, I know you guys don't want that just as I wouldn't if he were a Chief but he will probably be a thorn in your side for a 4 or 5 good years.

congrats on winning now.....

the Talking Can
10-23-2011, 06:35 PM
Seriously... If the Raiders don't win by 3 td's this weekend I am going to be disappointed.... I mean Bills put up a 40 burger in your house, we played them to the last play of the game...

You guys have barely squeaked by 2 of the worst teams in the NFL... I see a beat down of Epic Proportions coming this weekend.

ROFL

:LOL:


THIS IS THE POST

THREAD OVER

Radar Chief
10-23-2011, 06:37 PM
Seriously...I see a beat down of Epic Proportions coming this weekend.

He was actually right on this one.

the Talking Can
10-23-2011, 06:51 PM
raider fans are pussies

Chiefs Pantalones
10-23-2011, 06:55 PM
I know he hasn't played since January but Palmer played exactly how he played with the Bengals. Time off or not. That's how much suckage he is. And I'm not talking crap.

SenselessChiefsFan
10-23-2011, 06:56 PM
Palmer=midseason form.

Bane
10-23-2011, 06:59 PM
RAY DUHS!!!!!

BigMeatballDave
10-23-2011, 07:00 PM
I said we could win IM impressed r8er came back.


We allways win the games people say there is no way we will win now we play for the division next Monday. In the immortal words of the road warriors "What a Rush!!ll
R8er came back? Where?

listopencil
10-23-2011, 07:01 PM
This has got to be one of my favorite threads of all time.

the Talking Can
10-23-2011, 07:20 PM
raider fans are complete pussies

TheGuardian
10-23-2011, 07:22 PM
raider fans are complete pussies

No doubt. I said that team was never a fucking contender. Not even for the god damn division crown. Raider fans can keep deep throating cock.

And is Darren McFraud made out of fucking peanut brittle? That guy is a fucking pussy.

stevieray
10-23-2011, 07:22 PM
as much weak smack they threw out all week, it was inevitable.

dipshits.

the Talking Can
10-23-2011, 07:23 PM
No doubt. I said that team was never a ****ing contender. Not even for the god damn division crown. Raider fans can keep deep throating cock.

And is Darren McFraud made out of ****ing peanut brittle? That guy is a ****ing pussy.

they got exposed in epic fashion

teedubya
10-23-2011, 07:24 PM
Holy shit, 1700+ posts. Wow. I guess I need to read the hilarity.

Frazod
10-23-2011, 07:25 PM
I hope to see you back here too.

But I don't expect to see you.

I know Sunday Night is usually the night you inbreds in KC take your sisters out on dates.

So where are you now, fucktard? Out with R8ers romancing the sheep?

SPchief
10-23-2011, 07:29 PM
Holy shit, 1700+ posts. Wow. I guess I need to read the hilarity.

Quick summary:


Most Chief fans: LMAO LMAO what a terrible trade. They gave up how much?

Raider Fans: What IF he returns to his form from 2006? Then its a great trade.

Most Chief fans: LMAO LMAO what a horible trade

Raider fans: No seriously, we're trying to win now, fuck next years draft. It could turn out to be a great trade. Fuck draft pics we suck at them anyways.


Most Chief fans: LMAO LMAO


Raider fans: Man he's gonna beat the shit out of you guys this week. He's a pro bowler from 2 years ago.


Chief fans: LMAO LMAO LMAO

the Talking Can
10-23-2011, 07:29 PM
Quick summary:


Most Chief fans: LMAO LMAO what a terrible trade. They gave up how much?

Raider Fans: What IF he returns to his form from 2006? Then its a great trade.

Most Chief fans: LMAO LMAO what a horible trade

Raider fans: No seriously, we're trying to win now, **** next years draft. It could turn out to be a great trade. **** draft pics we suck at them anyways.


Most Chief fans: LMAO LMAO


Raider fans: Man he's gonna beat the shit out of you guys this week. He's a pro bowler from 2 years ago.


Chief fans: LMAO LMAO LMAO

:LOL:


perfect

Lzen
10-23-2011, 08:25 PM
Still no Raiders fans. Shit talking pussies.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-23-2011, 08:27 PM
What a bunch of spineless cowards.

BigMeatballDave
10-23-2011, 08:28 PM
I knew these guttless turds would puss out

Der Flöprer
10-23-2011, 08:30 PM
Bitches. Everyone who posted in this thread for the Raiders got fucked in their assholes after internet time was over in the pen.

Brock
10-23-2011, 08:32 PM
Doesn't the truck driver have a raiders board he runs?

Easy 6
10-23-2011, 08:35 PM
When they get done licking each others wounds, among other things, they'll be back in december...

'it doesnt matter that palmers been knocked out for the year, Bollers learned his lesson, he gonna play lights out against you chumps this time!'

Frosty
10-23-2011, 08:50 PM
Raider fans: Man he's gonna beat the shit out of you guys this week. He's a pro bowler from 2 years ago.

You forgot to mention the all important Pro Bowl MVP.

4th and Long
10-23-2011, 08:52 PM
So where are you now, ****tard? Out with R8ers romancing the sheep?
They are out together trying to figure out who Oakland is going to grab with their first pick in the 5th round next year. :D

Bane
10-23-2011, 08:57 PM
Pussy ass Faider fans nowhere to be found.....BITCHES!

SPATCH
10-23-2011, 09:26 PM
I really didn't think he would be able to do it... but, damn it, Palmer went out there and threw just as many INTs as Boller. That took balls

Ugly Duck
10-23-2011, 10:24 PM
The whole Raider team got its ass kicked today. I want my money back. But I still think Palmer will be better after he learns the playbook & the receivers & gets a snap count & gets in football shape. Also think you Chiefsfanz secretly don't really believe that the rest of Palmer's career will look like this performance. But gloat away, me buckos.... this is the time for ChiefsFanz to make whoopee... you've earned it.

P.S. I hate your team.

SPATCH
10-23-2011, 10:31 PM
The whole Raider team got its ass kicked today. I want my money back. But I still think Palmer will be better after he learns the playbook & the receivers & gets a snap count & gets in football shape. Also think you Chiefsfanz secretly don't really believe that the rest of Palmer's career will look like this performance. But gloat away, me buckos.... this is the time for ChiefsFanz to make whoopee... you've earned it.

P.S. I hate your team.

Sweet football team dude.

Get used to this shit.

Smed1065
10-23-2011, 10:44 PM
Yall can go ahead now and start sucking up and I won't be as hard on you later.... Continue to beat those DSL's and the flogging will continue for quite some time

:LOL:

thurman merman
10-25-2011, 08:03 PM
And when you throw the ball, Carson, make sure to target #24 for the Chiefs. He sucks.


http://www.greenwichtime.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=1693981&width=628&height=471

thurman merman
10-25-2011, 08:05 PM
Carson Palmer starting this week shows a BIG lack of respect that the Raiders have for the Chiefs football team.

I guarantee you Hue Jackson would not be starting Palmer if we were playing, say the Chargers, or Bears, or Lions or something like that.

LOL yall should be ashamed.

Hue Jackson knows all the Raiders have to do is run the ball, and target #24 on defense. Brandon Flowers is a pillow biting piece of burnt toast.

http://www.greenwichtime.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=1693981&width=628&height=471

Nightfyre
10-25-2011, 08:37 PM
Oh, there is IPwnFools! in the lowest row on the right hand side of the picture!

thurman merman
10-25-2011, 09:41 PM
Oh, there is IPwnFools! in the lowest row on the right hand side of the picture!

You mean the white/Mexican Spike Lee?

Count Alex's Losses
11-06-2011, 03:56 PM
2/8 for 39 yards today

Okie_Apparition
11-06-2011, 04:19 PM
It's just rust..

SenselessChiefsFan
11-06-2011, 04:25 PM
Well, I have to admit....watching Palmer play is a brightspot after the Chiefs getting slaughtered.

Count Alex's Losses
11-06-2011, 04:33 PM
Palmer looks good today.

KcMizzou
11-06-2011, 04:36 PM
Well, I have to admit....watching Palmer play is a brightspot after the Chiefs getting slaughtered.Really? Why would you be rooting for him to play well?