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Donger
11-16-2011, 10:42 AM
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With the public's desire for World War II artifacts already hot, a new find that symbolizes the world's appeasement of Adolf Hitler is about to explode on to the historical auction market.

Our friends at Alexander Historical Auctions reveal today that they plan to auction off Hitler's solid cast brass desk set, prominently adorned with his "AH" initials, used to sign the Munich Pact. The desk set, designed by Hitler and never before offered for sale, is expected to fetch $500,000-$750,000 at the auction December 8-9.

"This is a museum-grade relic of great historical importance," says Bill Panagopulos, president of Alexander Historical Auctions and Alexander Autographs. The firm is based in Connecticut and conducts its auctions live and simultaneously online.

The Munich Pact was signed in 1938 by Hitler, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, Italy's Benito Mussolini and French Prime Minister Edouard Daladier. It gave Hitler control of part of Czechoslovakia in return for his promise not to push further in any war. What's more, Chamberlain used the occasion to also get a peace pact with Hitler, which the Brit called "Peace for our time."

Of course the appeasement effort failed, Chamberlain forever became a blemish on British history and Hitler went on to attack all of those countries.

The desk set is just one of several sensational Nazi-era items up for sale. Others include details of a secret post-war plan by ex-Nazis, the Vatican and even U.S. officials to form an army to repel any Soviet invasion of West Germany, and Albert Einstein's signed copy of his 1939 letter to F.D.R. suggesting that science could use atomic fission to create "extremely powerful bombs of a new type."

Panagopulos says that the market for World War II era items is white hot and that artifacts as valuable as the Hitler desk set are rare and valuable.

The desk set has been owned since the war by American John McConn who, as an Army lieutenant, was assigned to guard art discovered at Hitler's offices at the end of the war.

In and around the office, officials found valuable art, gold and weapons made for Hitler. In the basement of the building, McConn discovered the desk set, thought it a nice souvenir, and sent it home to Texas.

Over the years, he hasn't considered selling it. Instead he let his kids take it to school for show and tell, says Panagopulos.

Here's how the auctioneer describes the desk set:

"The massive ceremonial presentation measures 24" wide, 14 3/4" deep and 1 3/4" tall, with two columned ink wells rising 2" above the base of the desk set. The ink wells are filled with solid glass, each bearing an opening which at one time either held a smaller ink cup, or was itself filled with ink. Between the two wells appears in high relief Hitler's initials 'A H' beneath and flanking a large eagle facing to its left (symbolizing the Nazi Party vs. the military) which in turn clutches in its talons a wreath encircling a swastika. A raised rectangle beneath all supports a large, impressive brass blotter with a knurled knob, similar in design to the colonnaded ink wells. The underside of the set is lined in fine finished mahogany. In all, the desk set gives one the impression of an architectural model, thus in our opinion the set was designed by Hitler, who prided himself on his architectural acumen. Photographic research shows that this desk set was undoubtedly used at the signing of the Munich Pact on September 30, 1938."

Count Zarth
11-16-2011, 10:47 AM
750 grand seems low.

blaise
11-16-2011, 10:48 AM
750 grand seems low.

Do I hear nein?

Caseyguyrr
11-16-2011, 10:49 AM
anybody who profits off the murder of millions of people should reevaluate their worth in society, sorry had to say it

gblowfish
11-16-2011, 10:52 AM
I'm sure Carl Peterson will want this bad.

SuperChief
11-16-2011, 10:52 AM
This is incredible.

eazyb81
11-16-2011, 10:52 AM
Albert Einstein's signed copy of his 1939 letter to F.D.R. suggesting that science could use atomic fission to create "extremely powerful bombs of a new type."


This would be cool.

Donger
11-16-2011, 10:53 AM
anybody who profits off the murder of millions of people should reevaluate their worth in society, sorry had to say it

:spock:

This thing didn't murder anyone.

blaise
11-16-2011, 10:54 AM
anybody who profits off the murder of millions of people should reevaluate their worth in society, sorry had to say it

The whole US profited at the expense of Native Americans. You live in the US, right?

Donger
11-16-2011, 10:54 AM
This would be cool.

Yeah, it would. Particularly because Einstein later regretted signing that letter.

Rain Man
11-16-2011, 10:57 AM
Hitler's descendants should ask for this item's return, kind of like all the paintings that were returned to families after the Nazis stole them.

Or do you get that right if your side started the war? Not sure of that.

I may throw in some bids on some of these items, just in case no one else bids. It'd be cool to get one of these things for a couple hundred bucks.

Gonzo
11-16-2011, 10:59 AM
anybody who profits off the murder of millions of people should reevaluate their worth in society, sorry had to say it
Meh, you're telling me that if you had hitler's boxer-shorts and someone offered you 10k for them, you wouldn't sell?
How bout 100k?
A million?
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Donger
11-16-2011, 11:00 AM
Hitler's descendants should ask for this item's return, kind of like all the paintings that were returned to families after the Nazis stole them.

Or do you get that right if your side started the war? Not sure of that.

I may throw in some bids on some of these items, just in case no one else bids. It'd be cool to get one of these things for a couple hundred bucks.

Hitler didn't breed, thankfully.

Count Zarth
11-16-2011, 11:01 AM
Hitler didn't breed, thankfully.

His nephews are alive and well.

Donger
11-16-2011, 11:04 AM
His nephews are alive and well.

I don't believe that is accurate.

Gonzo
11-16-2011, 11:07 AM
anybody who profits off the murder of millions of people should reevaluate their worth in society, sorry had to say it

Introducing the biggest and best White Knight breed of them all, btw...

The Anti-establishment white knight.

This particular breed of WK is a common one. He usually doesn't come out of his shell until he can make a anti-holocaust or super PC statement that really makes no sense.
They can usually be found at Starbucks or at Whole Foods. He eats bean sprouts, veggie burgers and drinks Frappucino's.
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Amnorix
11-16-2011, 11:11 AM
Hitler didn't breed, thankfully.



Ja, dat is true, but ve have vays...

http://geekhardshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Boys-from-Brazil.jpg

Amnorix
11-16-2011, 11:12 AM
Screw the desk. I honestly wouldn't want to own anything Hitler touched.

The letter from Einstein, on the other hand....sign me up for that!

Frazod
11-16-2011, 11:12 AM
I don't believe that is accurate.

I believe somebody posted a thread linking an article about one of Hilter's nephews here fairly recently. Lives in Buffalo, IIRC.

Donger
11-16-2011, 11:12 AM
Introducing the biggest and best White Knight breed of them all, btw...

The Anti-establishment white knight.

This particular breed of WK is a common one. He usually doesn't come out of his shell until he can make a anti-holocaust or super PC statement that really makes no sense.
They can usually be found at Starbucks or at Whole Foods. He eats bean sprouts, veggie burgers and drinks Frappucino's.
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And, technically, Hitler never murdered anyone directly.

Frazod
11-16-2011, 11:14 AM
I believe somebody posted a thread linking an article about one of Hilter's nephews here fairly recently. Lives in Buffalo, IIRC.

Oops, he's dead. And lived in Long Island.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Patrick_Stuart-Houston

La literatura
11-16-2011, 11:18 AM
I would want the desk if it was wood, but since it is brass, I am not interested. I am in the market for a good, large wood desk. I would prefer a desk that belong to a dictator. My second preference would be for a clergyman's desk. Third preference would be for a Victorian British writer's wood desk, or English up to the 1930s, but no later.

Chiefshrink
11-16-2011, 11:19 AM
I'm sure Carl Peterson will want this bad.

and this current White House I'm sure.

Never met a Lefty Liberal who didn't idolize dictators around the world:rolleyes:

Donger
11-16-2011, 11:23 AM
Screw the desk. I honestly wouldn't want to own anything Hitler touched

What about Eva's bra? Oh, wait...

stevieray
11-16-2011, 11:29 AM
...are brass balls included?

Otter
11-16-2011, 11:37 AM
:spock:

This thing didn't murder anyone.

It's a well kept secret that Hitler's desk advised Heinrich Himmler in streamlining the death camps on several occasions. It's been covered up to increase the value of the desk.

Even so, I'd love to own that desk.

Count Zarth
11-16-2011, 11:42 AM
I wonder if the Chiefs will ever auction off Carl's contract signing desk set.