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ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 02:59 PM
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RT @AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Denver Broncos waived quarterback Kyle Orton today. #Broncos

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:00 PM
Chiefs would be a fool to not pick him up...

ChiefsCountry
11-22-2011, 03:01 PM
Chiefs should put in a claim on him. We will need a good backup/potential early season starter for our rookie QB next year.

KC_Lee
11-22-2011, 03:01 PM
Won't make it past the Houston Texans.

evenfall
11-22-2011, 03:02 PM
Good backup candidate for next year. Bring him in for a look.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 03:02 PM
Won't make it past the Houston Texans.

If Chiefs put a claim in would get him before texans

Rain Man
11-22-2011, 03:03 PM
Why would a team cut the only quarterback on their roster?

OnTheWarpath58
11-22-2011, 03:04 PM
Chiefs should put in a claim on him. We will need a good backup/potential early season starter for our rookie QB next year.

We'll have a shot at him, IMO.

I don't see any of the other 4-win-or-less teams putting in a claim.

Actually, isn't there a clause that guys with X years of service just become FA's when waived? Or am I wrong on that?

DBOSHO
11-22-2011, 03:04 PM
I would totally bring him in. Underrated guy.

Bane
11-22-2011, 03:04 PM
At least he knows you can't throw a field goal.

Sofa King
11-22-2011, 03:04 PM
Sweet. He is probably better than Cassel. I hope the front office makes this move.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:04 PM
Why would a team cut the only quarterback on their roster?

It seems stupid to me too...

I seriously think Elway hates Tebow winning and knows until the NFL figures him out the fans will have his head on a stick if he pulls him.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 03:04 PM
We'll have a shot at him, IMO.

I don't see any of the other 4-win-or-less teams putting in a claim.

Actually, isn't there a clause that guys with X years of service just become FA's when waived? Or am I wrong on that?

Yes there is a rule but during the season every team can clain him first 24 hours

ct
11-22-2011, 03:05 PM
Q is do the Chiefs FO have the balls to put in a claim to p/up the Broncos castoff? I sure as hell would. Swallow and do what you gotta do.

ChiefsCountry
11-22-2011, 03:05 PM
We'll have a shot at him, IMO.

I don't see any of the other 4-win-or-less teams putting in a claim.

Actually, isn't there a clause that guys with X years of service just become FA's when waived? Or am I wrong on that?

See Randy Moss last year.

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 03:05 PM
no HELL NO

KurtCobain
11-22-2011, 03:05 PM
Won't make it past the Houston Texans.

good thing our positioning is ahead of theirs, then.
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R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:05 PM
I actually wanted this guy when JC went down...

Predarat
11-22-2011, 03:06 PM
I thought they would release Brady Quinn first but hell go get him!

OnTheWarpath58
11-22-2011, 03:06 PM
See Randy Moss last year.

Can't remember. Did Tennessee claim him or just sign him as FA?

GloryDayz
11-22-2011, 03:06 PM
How could it hurt to bring him on? I say put him into the rotation...

htismaqe
11-22-2011, 03:06 PM
There's ZERO chance Pioli brings in Orton. Our next head coach can't stand him...

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 03:06 PM
Or we could just play STANZI !!

Discuss Thrower
11-22-2011, 03:06 PM
To the flotsam labeled RMS Titanic!

ChiefsCountry
11-22-2011, 03:07 PM
Can't remember. Did Tennessee claim him or just sign him as FA?

Tennessee put a claim in.

vailpass
11-22-2011, 03:07 PM
WTF? Some team is going to get a very serviceable QB. Good for Orton. Get out of that situation and find somewhere better for him.

OnTheWarpath58
11-22-2011, 03:07 PM
Tennessee put a claim in.

Thanks.

Von Dumbass
11-22-2011, 03:07 PM
Orton is due $8 million this year.... I wonder how many teams will be willing to claim that contract.

ChiefsCountry
11-22-2011, 03:08 PM
There's ZERO chance Pioli brings in Orton. Our next head coach can't stand him...

Ferentz or McDaniels?

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:08 PM
PSST... HE KNOWS the 5 play playbook too

mcaj22
11-22-2011, 03:09 PM
I sadly think we have a chance to win this garbage division if we were to pick up Orton

no?

Von Dumbass
11-22-2011, 03:10 PM
PSST... HE KNOWS the 5 play playbook too

Everyone knows what Denver wants to do. We just execute it so well that teams can't stop it.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:11 PM
I sadly think we have a chance to win this garbage division if we were to pick up Orton

no?

Now I wouldn't go that far........

htismaqe
11-22-2011, 03:12 PM
Ferentz or McDaniels?

McDaniels of course. Ferentz isn't leaving a lifetime guarantee of over $2M a year for this train wreck...

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:12 PM
Hell Orton may wind back up in Chicago

Molitoth
11-22-2011, 03:13 PM
We know what Orton is. We don't want anymore garbage wins this season ruining our draft selection.

Lets see what Stanzi has and draft a QB.

Fritz88
11-22-2011, 03:14 PM
Not too bad, even if that means Stanzi not getting a shot until later.

memyselfI
11-22-2011, 03:16 PM
Don't go there, please.

Bane
11-22-2011, 03:16 PM
Everyone knows what Denver wants to do. We just execute it so well that teams can't stop it.

ROFL

GOLD!!!

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:16 PM
I think people get caught up too much on where a guy played.... This league is all about switching and swapping... Get used to it

GloryDayz
11-22-2011, 03:16 PM
PSST... HE KNOWS the 5 play playbook too

JFC, I hate teams with that many plays!! Bastards!!

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:17 PM
Everyone knows what Denver wants to do. We just execute it so well that teams can't stop it.

I would rather have the Donks chasing us for the West than the Cheaps or Sparks any day of the week

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:19 PM
JFC, I hate teams with that many plays!! Bastards!!

It makes me puke in my mouth a little to see how the NFL can't figure out how to stop that yet....

HemiEd
11-22-2011, 03:19 PM
Bring him in, it would be nice to see these wide receivers actually have a QB that can get them the ball.
We saw in improvement in the team effort last night, until they figured out Palko sucked worse than Cassel.
Imagine what they would play like if they have a fairly legit QB behind center.

the Talking Can
11-22-2011, 03:20 PM
We know what Orton is. We don't want anymore garbage wins this season ruining our draft selection.

Lets see what Stanzi has and draft a QB.

bingo

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:21 PM
Bring him in, it would be nice to see these wide receivers actually have a QB that can get them the ball.
We saw in improvement in the team effort last night, until they figured out Palko sucked worse than Cassel.
Imagine what they would play like if they have a fairly legit QB behind center.


With your schedule you probably are not going to succeed with anyone this year but with Orton, you wouldn't be embarrassed like last night... Your Defense played lights out in the first half last night.

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 03:21 PM
We know what Orton is. We don't want anymore garbage wins this season ruining our draft selection.

Lets see what Stanzi has and draft a QB.

This. If I thought we had a chance in hell of winning, I'd be all for it. But at this point, it's all about next year/the Draft.

And who's to say Indy won't pick him up? If they don't, there needs to be an investigation about them purposely tanking (hell, there probably needs to be one anyway).

I'd also be worried our dumbass GM thinks he could win with Neckbeard.

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 03:21 PM
John Elway is Pontius Pilate. If I'm Tebow.....I better be watching my back.

Pants
11-22-2011, 03:23 PM
Can't remember. Did Tennessee claim him or just sign him as FA?

Pretty sure they claimed him.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:24 PM
This. If I thought we had a chance in hell of winning, I'd be all for it. But at this point, it's all about next year/the Draft.

And who's to say Indy won't pick him up? If they don't, there needs to be an investigation about them purposely tanking (hell, there probably needs to be one anyway).

Screw that packing the shit in for next year talk... Screw the draft picks.. I was embarrassed when my Raiders had the first pick, that meant they were the worst fucking team in the NFL.

Aren't you tired of the next year shit by now?

whoman69
11-22-2011, 03:24 PM
I sadly think we have a chance to win this garbage division if we were to pick up Orton

no?

That boat has sailed with our remaining schedule.

htismaqe
11-22-2011, 03:26 PM
With your schedule you probably are not going to succeed with anyone this year but with Orton, you wouldn't be embarrassed like last night... Your Defense played lights out in the first half last night.

Because 8-8 is always the ultimate goal...

htismaqe
11-22-2011, 03:27 PM
Screw that packing the shit in for next year talk... Screw the draft picks.. I was embarrassed when my Raiders had the first pick, that meant they were the worst ****ing team in the NFL.

Aren't you tired of the next year shit by now?

There is no "this year" with or without Orton. There's no playoffs or Super Bowl on the immediate horizon.

HemiEd
11-22-2011, 03:27 PM
With your schedule you probably are not going to succeed with anyone this year but with Orton, you wouldn't be embarrassed like last night... Your Defense played lights out in the first half last night.

I agree 100%. I hate it when this team gets embarrassed, living in Bears country, I have been hearing about it all day.

"Hey, your new QB, what was he doing?"

"You had a good one, what happened to him?"

"Glad to see you got Thomas Jones, he is great, they should run him more!"

"Well at least they gave them a good game, for a while."

pr_capone
11-22-2011, 03:31 PM
LMFAO at all the CP'ers here who did nothing but shit on the guy while he was starting in Dungver but now he is a legit starting QB and want him here.

I'd bring him in just to have another body but I sure as shit would not expect great things from neckbeard.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:32 PM
Raiders are a pretty good (not great) team... When they hit the lowest of lows, All I wanted to see was for them to be competitive, you had something to hope for and build on... You are not building on anything with Palko in there... I would give that Stanzi kid all the reps this week and let him start and then you will see exactly how raw he is.

You guys need a vet bad, Orton would be an excellent pickup for this team and get this team competitive and give confidence to that new WR and entice hope for Bowe to want to be a Chief next year.

Carlota69
11-22-2011, 03:32 PM
We wont bring Orton in for a look. Why would we? We havent brought anyone in for a look with any of the MAJOR injuries we've had this year. I get the sneaky feeling the FO does not want to win this year. Ive thought that all year. Why else would we sit on our hands and do nothing in regards to bringing in players to replace the injured ones? Clark wants his $$$ not wins.

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 03:32 PM
Screw that packing the shit in for next year talk... Screw the draft picks.. I was embarrassed when my Raiders had the first pick, that meant they were the worst ****ing team in the NFL.

Aren't you tired of the next year shit by now?

Well, kinda, but I'm really fucking tired of seeing guys who couldn't start elsewhere be my team's starting quarterback. And like I said, I'm scared that we'd beat Denver 14-13 in the last game of the year and that not only would it screw up our draft position, but I'm also scared our dumbass GM would take it as a sign that he can build a competitive team without using a high pick on a QB. Then we'd take a LT in the 1st and start all the bullshit over again.

And like I said, if they weren't tanking, Orton shouldn't make it past Indy. Fuck the Colts.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:34 PM
Well, kinda, but I'm really ****ing tired of seeing guys who couldn't start elsewhere be my team's starting quarterback. And like I said, I'm scared that we'd beat Denver 14-13 in the last game of the year and that not only would it screw up our draft position, but I'm also scared our dumbass GM would take it as a sign that he can build a competitive team without using a high pick on a QB. Then we'd take a LT in the 1st and start all the bullshit over again.

And like I said, if they weren't tanking, Orton shouldn't make it past Indy. **** the Colts.

Indy is not interested in winning anything now.

Carlota69
11-22-2011, 03:35 PM
Indy is not interested in winning anything now.
Neither are we.

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 03:36 PM
Indy is not interested in winning anything now.

...

Neither are we.

This.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:36 PM
Neither are we.

2 games out of first... Thats sad

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 03:36 PM
AlbertBreerAlbert Breer

Broncos announce release of QB Kyle Orton. Hits the waiver wire now. Any team claiming him assumes $1.324 million in salary for rest of '11.

memyselfI
11-22-2011, 03:36 PM
How would Culter/Orton work being on the same team. Would they compete for the starting job next season?

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:36 PM
How would Culter/Orton work being on the same team. Would they compete for the starting job next season?

No... Cutler is their man

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:37 PM
AlbertBreerAlbert Breer

Broncos announce release of QB Kyle Orton. Hits the waiver wire now. Any team claiming him assumes $1.324 million in salary for rest of '11.

That would leave the Chiefs with over 28 million in cap room

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 03:38 PM
That would leave the Chiefs with over 28 million in cap room

I dont see it happen hunt needs to buy x-mas gifts

Carlota69
11-22-2011, 03:39 PM
2 games out of first... Thats sad
Agreed. I really feel this FO isnt interested in winning. They are not getting the players we need to fill the injury void. I dont see Orton coming here. I want to win. I still root and hope, but if the FO wont give the team and coaches the players, what are we rooting for?

Carlota69
11-22-2011, 03:40 PM
That would leave the Chiefs with over 28 million in cap room

and 1.324 million short.

Spott
11-22-2011, 03:42 PM
It would be pretty humorous to see Orton get re-signed by the Bears. It would make sense for them to make an effort to try and pick him up since he could probably be able to play in that offense almost immediately.

HemiEd
11-22-2011, 03:43 PM
and 1.324 million short.

If they spend that, they might have to renege on the ticket price reduction.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:43 PM
I dont see it happen hunt needs to buy x-mas gifts

I said it before and I will say it again, As long as those stands are full every week they are not going to spend... If the fans got together and put up a billboard in KC and produce a bunch of empty seats they would change their ways.

I despise the Chiefs but the fans love that team and deserve to atleast try to better the team and spend the money... If they spend the money and fail, so be it, they are trying but to sit on all that money when Berry Charles and Moeki & Cassel went down is just dumb... Hate the Raiders, call their picks stupid or overpaying etc etc but they are 2 mill over the cap and they are atleast trying to win.

BigMeatballDave
11-22-2011, 03:44 PM
I can't imagine Pioli doing this. I'm be floored.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 03:44 PM
I said it before and I will say it again, As long as those stands are full every week they are not going to spend... If the fans got together and put up a billboard in KC and produce a bunch of empty seats they would change their ways.

I despise the Chiefs but the fans love that team and deserve to atleast try to better the team and spend the money... If they spend the money and fail, so be it, they are trying but to sit on all that money when Berry Charles and Moeki & Cassel went down is just dumb... Hate the Raiders, call their picks stupid or overpaying etc etc but they are 2 mill over the cap and they are atleast trying to win.

Dont worry in 2013 they will have to spend so we will have 1 more year of this cheap shit.

mlyonsd
11-22-2011, 03:45 PM
No no no no. Don't even think about it Scott.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 03:45 PM
JayGlazerJay Glazer

RT @tbrugs: @JayGlazer where do you think orton will land... will he even play again this year?>I hear either CHI and/or KC will claim

Zeke
11-22-2011, 03:46 PM
I said it before and I will say it again, As long as those stands are full every week they are not going to spend... If the fans got together and put up a billboard in KC and produce a bunch of empty seats they would change their ways.

I despise the Chiefs but the fans love that team and deserve to atleast try to better the team and spend the money... If they spend the money and fail, so be it, they are trying but to sit on all that money when Berry Charles and Moeki & Cassel went down is just dumb... Hate the Raiders, call their picks stupid or overpaying etc etc but they are 2 mill over the cap and they are atleast trying to win.

You desperately don't want KC to draft high enough to get a legit QB.

vailpass
11-22-2011, 03:47 PM
I can think of several good reasons KC shouldn't claim Orton and not one good reason why they should.

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 03:47 PM
I can think of several good reasons KC shouldn't claim Orton and not one good reason why they should.

Which is exactly why we'll claim him...

MoreLemonPledge
11-22-2011, 03:48 PM
Orton is due $8 million this year.... I wonder how many teams will be willing to claim that contract.

No he's not. He's got 1.3 million left on his contract. A no-brainer signing for the Chiefs if he gets to us.

OnTheWarpath58
11-22-2011, 03:48 PM
We're going to pick him up, and end up winning a game we shouldn't/wouldn't have, and come April someone will trade up to the spot we would have been to take Barkley.

We proceed to take the best available RT or 5-tech with the pick.

Guru
11-22-2011, 03:48 PM
To be honest, I really don't give a crap what the Chiefs do in this situation.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:49 PM
You desperately don't want KC to draft high enough to get a legit QB.

Dude, me sitting here calling it like I see it is not going to affect anything done on this team....

Hell you could always trade up in the draft if you want a QB but with the exception of Luck, you are probably looking for 2 years of losing before one matures enough to win...

You guys need a Vet, would not be surprised to see Jason Campbell in a Chiefs uniform next year.

Carlota69
11-22-2011, 03:49 PM
I said it before and I will say it again, As long as those stands are full every week they are not going to spend... If the fans got together and put up a billboard in KC and produce a bunch of empty seats they would change their ways.

I despise the Chiefs but the fans love that team and deserve to atleast try to better the team and spend the money... If they spend the money and fail, so be it, they are trying but to sit on all that money when Berry Charles and Moeki & Cassel went down is just dumb... Hate the Raiders, call their picks stupid or overpaying etc etc but they are 2 mill over the cap and they are atleast trying to win.
Pretty much. At least you guys are trying to win and doing whatever it takes. WIll it prove to be too costly? Possibly, but then again, maybe Palmer has a bunch of gas left in the tank and it works out for you. At least you guys are trying. A ton more than I can say for this organization.

SenselessChiefsFan
11-22-2011, 03:50 PM
Orton and Cassel. McDaniels will be ectstatic.

memyselfI
11-22-2011, 03:50 PM
JayGlazerJay Glazer

RT @tbrugs: @JayGlazer where do you think orton will land... will he even play again this year?>I hear either CHI and/or KC will claim

Oh, good grief. :banghead:

Guru
11-22-2011, 03:50 PM
Pretty much. At least you guys are trying to win and doing whatever it takes. WIll it prove to be too costly? Possibly, but then again, maybe Palmer has a bunch of gas left in the tank and it works out for you. At least you guys are trying. A ton more than I can say for this organization.

amen to that.

Zeke
11-22-2011, 03:50 PM
Which is exactly why we'll claim him...

You seriously think Pioli will take him?

We've had 4 of the best players on this team go down for the season, and not one person has been brought in to replace them (other than jeremy f***ing horne). If Orton becomes a Chief, then this FO is simply flying by the seat of their pants at this point and has zero direction.

Guru
11-22-2011, 03:51 PM
You seriously think Pioli will take him?

We've had 4 of the best players on this team go down for the season, and not one person has been brought in to replace them (other than jeremy f***ing horne). If Orton becomes a Chief, then this FO is simply flying by the seat of their pants at this point and has zero direction.
and that stinks of Clark Hunt.

DJ's left nut
11-22-2011, 03:51 PM
Orton is no worse than an average starting NFL quarterback, which makes him a hell of a lot better than Cassel.

He could step in for the remainder of the year and we could see how he works with the staff. If he's solid, we could see if he'd be interested in a 2-yr deal while we try to develop Robert Griffin (who will need a lot of seasoning).

Or we could just let him walk. It's really a zero-risk acquisition. I'd be pretty annoyed if we just ignored him.

And we certainly will.

mcaj22
11-22-2011, 03:52 PM
if it means they have given up on the Mark Castle experiment I am all for it

HemiEd
11-22-2011, 03:53 PM
Orton is no worse than an average starting NFL quarterback, which makes him a hell of a lot better than Cassel.

He could step in for the remainder of the year and we could see how he works with the staff. If he's solid, we could see if he'd be interested in a 2-yr deal while we try to develop Robert Griffin (who will need a lot of seasoning).

Or we could just let him walk. It's really a zero-risk acquisition. I'd be pretty annoyed if we just ignored him.

And we certainly will.

Pretty much how I see it, but be careful as you will be labeled as loving 8-8.

Von Dumbass
11-22-2011, 03:53 PM
Orton would be awful behind the Chiefs OL. At least Cassel tries to get away from pressure, Orton just falls down if a defender is anywhere near him.

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 03:53 PM
It would be pretty humorous to see Orton get re-signed by the Bears. It would make sense for them to make an effort to try and pick him up since he could probably be able to play in that offense almost immediately.

Completely different offense than he played in when he was there.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:54 PM
Pretty much. At least you guys are trying to win and doing whatever it takes. WIll it prove to be too costly? Possibly, but then again, maybe Palmer has a bunch of gas left in the tank and it works out for you. At least you guys are trying. A ton more than I can say for this organization.

It may very well bite us in the ass but I would rather be close now without picks than light years away with a pocket full of them, It has been a decade of "Next Years" for us and I am damn tired of hearing the Next Year shit.

OnTheWarpath58
11-22-2011, 03:54 PM
Getting this ready just in case:

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blaise
11-22-2011, 03:55 PM
Didn't knowmo start a thread crowing about extending Orton earlier this year?

Micjones
11-22-2011, 03:56 PM
There will still be an option to trade up.
I hate seeing this team stand pat when there's an opportunity to improve the squad...just so they can MAYBE draft a QB with their #1.

Some of you are cheering Suck for _____ on and there's a very good chance we won't even be looking to draft a QB (and I'm ALL for drafting a QB).

Zeke
11-22-2011, 03:56 PM
Orton is no worse than an average starting NFL quarterback, which makes him a hell of a lot better than Cassel.

He could step in for the remainder of the year and we could see how he works with the staff. If he's solid, we could see if he'd be interested in a 2-yr deal while we try to develop Robert Griffin (who will need a lot of seasoning).

Or we could just let him walk. It's really a zero-risk acquisition. I'd be pretty annoyed if we just ignored him.

And we certainly will.

That's exactly what will happen. Because they've set the precedence already by not replacing any of the others that went down. They are not interested in trying to scratch wins.

Jesus I get to watch this wreck, and the jayhawks every weekend for the rest of the year... what a spectacular time...

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 03:57 PM
Orton is no worse than an average starting NFL quarterback, which makes him a hell of a lot better than Cassel.

He could step in for the remainder of the year and we could see how he works with the staff. If he's solid, we could see if he'd be interested in a 2-yr deal while we try to develop Robert Griffin (who will need a lot of seasoning).

Or we could just let him walk. It's really a zero-risk acquisition. I'd be pretty annoyed if we just ignored him.

And we certainly will.

Best post of the thread., they are called vets for a reason.

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 03:57 PM
ROFL

Jay Glazer expects us to put in a claim. The no franchise QB train keeps rollin.

Carlota69
11-22-2011, 03:57 PM
Orton is no worse than an average starting NFL quarterback, which makes him a hell of a lot better than Cassel.

He could step in for the remainder of the year and we could see how he works with the staff. If he's solid, we could see if he'd be interested in a 2-yr deal while we try to develop Robert Griffin (who will need a lot of seasoning).

Or we could just let him walk. It's really a zero-risk acquisition. I'd be pretty annoyed if we just ignored him.

And we certainly will.

I think we will ignore him too. This organziation/team has no urgency, no fight to win. Hell, look how we play the game in the 4th quarter, down by 2 or 3 scores and we dont even run a no huddle offense. We fucking chill and take it easy like we are winning by 2 or 3 scores with 1 min left. At least try!!!! But nope, no fire, no desire. Why in the world would the organization act any different off the field? I think thats what aggravates me more than anything, our lack of will to win. If we suck, we suck but it seems as if the whole team/org doesnt fucking care.

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 03:58 PM
ROFL

Jay Glazer expects us to put in a claim. The no franchise QB train keeps rollin.

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 03:58 PM
FUCK ORTON FUCK ANY RETREAD QB FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Play STANZI & DRAFT ANOTHER QB TITS!!!

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 03:59 PM
I'll be happy if the Chiefs put a claim in for him.

blaise
11-22-2011, 03:59 PM
I bet he's already on the Bears and they just haven't announced it.

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 04:01 PM
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11-22-2011, 04:03 PM
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Chiefnj2
11-22-2011, 04:03 PM
Don't make any moves.

I want 4 wins. I want the stadium full of black and yellow this weekend. I want Clark Hunt to look out his press box and think he's at an English premier Wolverhampton game. I want the team to generate the least amount of money possible the last 3 home games.

If you are a Chiefs fan tailgating the next few home games, feed the opposing fans as much as you. I don't want them buying anything inside.

HemiEd
11-22-2011, 04:03 PM
Completely different offense than he played in when he was there.

Yep, they have Martz as OC now.

Carlota69
11-22-2011, 04:04 PM
It may very well bite us in the ass but I would rather be close now without picks than light years away with a pocket full of them, It has been a decade of "Next Years" for us and I am damn tired of hearing the Next Year shit.

I hear that. really sick of it too.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 04:04 PM
ClaytonESPNJohn Clayton

What will be curious is if Orton goes to KC is he can spark the Chiefs to have a better record than the Broncos. They meet in Week 17

SenselessChiefsFan
11-22-2011, 04:04 PM
This is great. McDaniels will take over a roster with two Qb's familiar with his system. Keep Crennel, bolster the offensive line, get a pass rusher, and work on developing Stanzi.

To the ship!

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 04:05 PM
This is great. McDaniels will take over a roster with two Qb's familiar with his system. Keep Crennel, bolster the offensive line, get a pass rusher, and work on developing Stanzi.

To the ship!

Orton is a FREE AGENT NEXT YEAR

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:05 PM
I would have to get the Popcorn out to watch a Tebow vs Orton matchup You know Orton would love to fuck him up

SenselessChiefsFan
11-22-2011, 04:07 PM
Orton is a FREE AGENT NEXT YEAR

Okay. And, your point is? You do know that he can get signed again, right?

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:07 PM
I hear that. really sick of it too.

You sound like a perfect fit to be a Raider fan.. Want me to get you an application? You already have a great name, I will put you at the very front of the line :thumb::p

Carlota69
11-22-2011, 04:08 PM
You sound like a perfect fit to be a Raider fan.. Want me to get you an application? You already have a great name, I will put you at the very front of the line :thumb::p


ROFLROFL--Oh sweetheart, thank you, but Im not that desperate.o:-)

Zeke
11-22-2011, 04:08 PM
You sound like a perfect fit to be a Raider fan.. Want me to get you an application? You already have a great name, I will put you at the very front of the line :thumb::p

Throw in a lil love from World Wide Wes and you're a regular John Calipari.

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 04:08 PM
(.)(.)

Play Stanzi draft another QB.

(.)(.)



TITS

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:09 PM
ROFLROFL--Oh sweetheart, thank you, but Im not that desperate.o:-)

Those dark eyes, dark hair and olive skin would look fab in black :thumb:

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 04:14 PM
BobGlauberBob Glauber

RT @BradBiggs: With #Bears 30th in waiver wire, would be very surprised if they claimed Kyle Orton. Could neg. contract w/ him if he clears

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:15 PM
How does that waiver wire positioning work exactly?

Carlota69
11-22-2011, 04:16 PM
Those dark eyes, dark hair and olive skin would look fab in black :thumb:

Well, with my Puerto Rican/Italian background, RED is my color:evil:

Carlota69
11-22-2011, 04:16 PM
How does that waiver wire positioning work exactly?

Worst to first? Like baseball?

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 04:17 PM
Worst to first? Like baseball?

Yep

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 04:18 PM
Whoever claims him would only have to pay 1.8 mil.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:18 PM
Worst to first? Like baseball?

You are correct...
The Waiver Wire works like this:
Team A signs Player X to a contract
Player X makes the roster and is on the team during the regular season
Team A decides it no longer wants Plaer X on its roster
Team A terminates the players contract, releasing him from his duties
Before Player X becomes a free agent, he hits the Waiver Wire
When his name goes on the waiver wire, every team in the NFL has the option to pick up the players original contract (the one Player X originally signed with Team A)
The Waiver Wire is like the NFL Draft in that teams with the worst records get first crack at the players who have been released
Once a team passes on the player then they cannot go back and claim him
If no team signs the player, then he becomes an unrestrictd free agent.


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_the_NFL_waiver_wire_work#ixzz1eTWsK0hX

Micjones
11-22-2011, 04:19 PM
Whoever claims him would only have to pay 1.8 mil.

I thought it was 1.3?

Epic Fail 007
11-22-2011, 04:21 PM
over on pride there is a report chiefs could claim him by jay glazer ,i hope they do hes hell of a lot better than cassel.

Bane
11-22-2011, 04:23 PM
I'm for anything that makes the Chiefs better and shows Pioli that moving away from Cassel is the thing to do.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:23 PM
I really don't want to see you guys claim him to be honest but it would be a no brainer if I were a Chief fan...



Where the hell is Mark Bulger?

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 04:24 PM
over on pride there is a report chiefs could claim him by jay glazer ,i hope they do hes hell of a lot better than cassel.

I hope the hell they don't do it. Has any body learned any thing????




START STANZI PLEASE Allready DAMN

Play a rookie let him take his lumps, pop his cherry & move on.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:25 PM
I hope the hell they don't do it. Has any body learned any thing????




START STANZI PLEASE Allready DAMN

Play a rookie let him take his lumps, pop his cherry & move on.

Then set this team back for the rest of the year, draft a QB and waste another whole year developing him.

You are nuts, get a vet, school a rookie, if Stanzi is the man, let him hold the clipboard as #2 and learn

Epic Fail 007
11-22-2011, 04:27 PM
ortonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elqd-xt8SDQ

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 04:29 PM
Then set this team back for the rest of the year, draft a QB and waste another whole year developing him.

You are nuts, get a vet, school a rookie, if S

BULL FUCKING SHIT IT WOULD. That's the only thing Chiefs do is start reject QBs from other teams. WE never do what winning franchises do in drafting and developing QBs by playing them.

KILLER_CLOWN
11-22-2011, 04:31 PM
Since we won't play Stanzi, I hope we pick Orton up. Look at it like this with our remaining schedule were going to lose every game anyway. Is it worth it for the fans to see a 35-31 score or a 35-3 score? We can maintain draft position and make it exciting. Win Win.

Guru
11-22-2011, 04:32 PM
BULL ****ING SHIT IT WOULD. That's the only thing Chiefs do is start reject QBs from other teams. WE never do what winning franchises do in drafting and developing QBs by playing them.
The problem with the Chiefs is that they have NO FRIGGIN CLUE HOW TO DEVELOP A QB.

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 04:33 PM
The problem with the Chiefs is that they have NO FRIGGIN CLUE HOW TO DEVELOP A QB.

Well, not playing them is part of that.

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 04:34 PM
I hope the hell they don't do it. Has any body learned any thing????




START STANZI PLEASE Allready DAMN

Play a rookie let him take his lumps, pop his cherry & move on.

Dude.....it's not going to happen. You should know by now that the FO isn't going to throw him to the fire. What I do want though is us to put a claim on Orton. You let Orton play out the season and move Stanzi to #2 on the depth chart.

MoreLemonPledge
11-22-2011, 04:35 PM
I want him signed for no other reason than to prove how piss-poor Cassel is. I want an average NFL QB to play on this team.

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 04:36 PM
Dude.....it's not going to happen. You should know by now that the FO isn't going to throw him to the fire. What I do want though is us to put a claim on Orton. You let Orton play out the season and move Stanzi to #2 on the depth chart.

That's still bull shit move for the Chiefs to do if we do it. It's exactly what Carl Peterson would do.

Chiefnj2
11-22-2011, 04:36 PM
I want him signed for no other reason than to prove how piss-poor Cassel is. I want an average NFL QB to play on this team.

If Pioli, Clark and Haley don't realize this by now, they never will. You don't need Orton to prove it.

Omaha
11-22-2011, 04:36 PM
I sadly think we have a chance to win this garbage division if we were to pick up Orton

no?

Against the Steelers, Packers, Bears, & Raiders?

Chiefs Pantalones
11-22-2011, 04:37 PM
I hear the Chiefs are expected to claim him. Anyone else hear that?

nychief
11-22-2011, 04:39 PM
I hear the Chiefs are expected to claim him. Anyone else hear that?

did you hear it from earlier in this thread?

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 04:39 PM
Orton is going to help out with the development of Baldwin as well.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:40 PM
BULL ****ING SHIT IT WOULD. That's the only thing Chiefs do is start reject QBs from other teams. WE never do what winning franchises do in drafting and developing QBs by playing them.

You don't know how the NFL works, You think somebody is going to dominate the NFL just because he played well at Iowa? You want to demoralize this team and risk everything on a 5th round draft pick that has never taken a snap in the NFL that I know of.
This team is down, the fans are down and the franchise is in turmoil, you need calm to prevail in these situations not taking wild ass swings at a pitch you have virtually no chance at hitting.
You want to see McDaniels as the head coach of this team next year? Keep wishing for Haley to make stupid ass moves and you may get your wish.

You got beat by Miami which I thought was the best bad team in the NFL and I had no idea why they were 0-7 .. Look at them playing decent ball now. You got beat by a gimmick team which also beat us and you got beat by arguably the best QB in the NFL and you will get beat by another Great team next week and a couple more before the season ends....

Why get butt raped and put a rookie out there to get his ass handed to you and put more doubt in the players of this team?

Chiefnj2
11-22-2011, 04:40 PM
Sign Orton and bring back Larry Jonson and the Chiefs will be cakn patna.

HemiEd
11-22-2011, 04:40 PM
Since we won't play Stanzi, I hope we pick Orton up. Look at it like this with our remaining schedule were going to lose every game anyway. Is it worth it for the fans to see a 35-31 score or a 35-3 score? We can maintain draft position and make it exciting. Win Win.

I am concerned about the good players on this teams moral, and them getting used to losing. At least with Orton, they might feel like they have a chance.

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 04:42 PM
Orton is going to help out with the development of Baldwin as well.

Like all those Denver guys who developed too? He'll be here for 5 games and will hardly know the playbook. All this does is help us not get a franchise QB (again).

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:43 PM
Like all those Denver guys who developed too? He'll be here for 5 games and will hardly know the playbook. All this does is help us not get a franchise QB (again).

Bull shit, Orton is a F/A after this year... If he sucks, let him go... No cap hit

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 04:45 PM
Bull shit, Orton is a F/A after this year... If he sucks, let him go... No cap hit

Exactly if you like him so much sign him next year as a free agent why ruin your draft position?

BoneKrusher
11-22-2011, 04:45 PM
Q is do the Chiefs FO have the balls to put in a claim to p/up the Broncos castoff? I sure as hell would. Swallow and do what you gotta do.

they claimed Eddie Kennison a few years ago and that worked out pretty well.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-22-2011, 04:45 PM
did you hear it from earlier in this thread?

No I heard it from this thread. Earlier.

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 04:46 PM
*****NEWS FLASH******

kyle orton SUCKED for denver or he would have kept his job

KCUnited
11-22-2011, 04:46 PM
Jesus. Welcome to where we're at.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-22-2011, 04:46 PM
For real though, the fact that we're hearing that the Chiefs are interested in placing a claim on the guy just shows you that they have lost faith in Cassel. Hopefully.

Fire Me Boy!
11-22-2011, 04:46 PM
Can someone post the black and white pick of the guy sitting in a chair with what looks like a tree growing out of his head? It's used around here a lot when people think someone is crazy, IIRC.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:47 PM
Some people say a loss is a loss but thats not true

34-31 last night and this forum would have been a reach around fest here today.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-22-2011, 04:47 PM
Can someone post the black and white pick of the guy sitting in a chair with what looks like a tree growing out of his head? It's used around here a lot when people think someone is crazy, IIRC.

Gross. I hate blacks.

Bane
11-22-2011, 04:48 PM
*****NEWS FLASH******

kyle orton SUCKED for denver or he would have kept his job

He did beat out Grossman 4-5 times. LMAO

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 04:48 PM
For real though, the fact that we're hearing that the Chiefs are interested in placing a claim on the guy just shows you that they have lost faith in Cassel. Hopefully.

How does that make sense?

Orton's a free agent after the season. Cassel's out for the season. Unless they claim Orton & sign an extension (PLEASE GOD NO), this has nothing to do with Cassel. It's more of a "we have no faith in Palko" thing (which they should have known all along, but that's another argument).

Only good thing would be that maybe King Neckbeard comes in & plays well, showing Pioli that Casshole isn't anywhere near a franchise QB...

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 04:48 PM
From a stats standpoint they are about the same guy.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:48 PM
*****NEWS FLASH******

kyle orton SUCKED for denver or he would have kept his job

Fans dictated that move and they didn't want to pay him.

Elway thought the Donks would be a lost cause with Tebow and it backfired on him.
Elway wanted that pick

Guru
11-22-2011, 04:50 PM
Well, not playing them is part of that.

that is my point.

Fish
11-22-2011, 04:50 PM
Fans dictated that move and they didn't want to pay him.

Elway thought the Donks would be a lost cause with Tebow and it backfired on him.
Elway wanted that pick

LMAO.... fans don't dictate moves bud...

Chiefs Pantalones
11-22-2011, 04:51 PM
How does that make sense?

Orton's a free agent after the season. Cassel's out for the season. Unless they claim Orton & sign an extension (PLEASE GOD NO), this has nothing to do with Cassel. It's more of a "we have no faith in Palko" thing (which they should have known all along, but that's another argument).

Only good thing would be that maybe King Neckbeard comes in & plays well, showing Pioli that Casshole isn't anywhere near a franchise QB...

How does having a guy like Palko make sense in the first place? Logical sense? IMO, the only reason they didn't sign a vet backup is because they didn't wanna hurt Cassel's fragile ego.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:51 PM
LMAO.... fans don't dictate moves bud...

They do there

BoneKrusher
11-22-2011, 04:52 PM
i'm hearing the Texans may have a problem fitting him under the salary cap, not the case for the Chiefs or Bears tho.

DaFace
11-22-2011, 04:52 PM
I don't really want Orton here next year, but I wouldn't mind being able to watch real football for the next 6 weeks.

DJ's left nut
11-22-2011, 04:52 PM
I would also like to see Baldwin continue to develop.

I'm sorry, but captain popgun and his ultimate frisby delivery is not going to help in the development of Jonathan Baldwin.

Orton could help us continue to develop Baldwin and allow our WR corps to continue to build chemistry, not to mention give Albert, Asomoah and I'm sure Hudson (and yes, even Lilja) a much better quarterback to block for, which would allow them to gel a little bit more for next season as well. Those guys learn nothing about playing as a unit when they're blocking for a mad scrambler that wants to throw checkdowns all day. If anything, they'd pick up bad habits for 2012.

I'm sorry, but folks that are loudly against an Orton look are just shouting for the sake of doing so. I've been as vocal a 'draft a QB guy' as any, but Orton doesn't preclude that. Further, Orton would allow us to actually get something out of the last 1/2 of this season whereas Palko would just be marking time.

And yeah, I'd love to see us get Stanzi the PT, but it's not going to happen for whatever reason. The options are pretty obviously Orton or Palko. When those are your choices...you really don't have any choices. It's Orton in a landslide.

HemiEd
11-22-2011, 04:53 PM
*****NEWS FLASH******

kyle orton SUCKED for denver or he would have kept his job

Sucking is relative, when it comes to QBs that Suck, and his suck is not even close the the level suckage that Palko is destined to display. For the rest of the team's sake, just do this.

BoneKrusher
11-22-2011, 04:53 PM
How does having a guy like Palko make sense in the first place? Logical sense? IMO, the only reason they didn't sign a vet backup is because they didn't wanna hurt Cassel's fragile ego.

Exactly!

Chiefs Pantalones
11-22-2011, 04:54 PM
I don't really want Orton here next year, but I wouldn't mind being able to watch real football for the next 6 weeks.

You mean you don't like 7 yard jump passes?

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 04:54 PM
I would also like to see Baldwin continue to develop.

I'm sorry, but captain popgun and his ultimate frisby delivery is not going to help in the development of Jonathan Baldwin.

Orton could help us continue to develop Baldwin and allow our WR corps to continue to build chemistry, not to mention give Albert, Asomoah and I'm sure Hudson (and yes, even Lilja) a much better quarterback to block for, which would allow them to gel a little bit more for next season as well.

I'm sorry, but folks that are loudly against an Orton look are just shouting for the sake of doing so. I've been as vocal a 'draft a QB guy' as any, but Orton doesn't preclude that. Further, Orton would allow us to actually get something out of the last 1/2 of this season whereas Palko would just be marking time.

And yeah, I'd love to see us get Stanzi the PT, but it's not going to happen for whatever reason. The options are pretty obviously Orton or Palko. When those are your choices...you really don't have any choices. It's Orton in a landslide.

How the hell does Orton help Baldwin grow? The guy got beat out by Rex Grossman and Tim Tebow. Check his stats they are the same as Cassel's.

jd1020
11-22-2011, 04:54 PM
Hunt is done writing checks for this season.

Extra Point
11-22-2011, 04:55 PM
Goodbye, Tyler.

Count Alex's Wins
11-22-2011, 04:55 PM
Kyle Orton is the shit we have to eat in the state we are in.

jd1020
11-22-2011, 04:56 PM
The Chicago Tribune and Fox Sports' Jay Glazer both report the Bears do indeed plan to put in a claim for Orton

58kcfan89
11-22-2011, 04:57 PM
How does having a guy like Palko make sense in the first place? Logical sense? IMO, the only reason they didn't sign a vet backup is because they didn't wanna hurt Cassel's fragile ego.

I'm not saying having Palko anywhere near an NFL roster makes sense. And I tend to agree on your reasoning.

I just don't see how bringing Orton in would have anything to do with the front office's faith in Cassel, unless they were to sign Orton to a contract extension. If Cassel were healthy & we were having this discussion, I could see it. Since he's on IR, I see it as a "we don't like Palko" rather than anything to do with Casshole.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:57 PM
I would also like to see Baldwin continue to develop.

I'm sorry, but captain popgun and his ultimate frisby delivery is not going to help in the development of Jonathan Baldwin.

Orton could help us continue to develop Baldwin and allow our WR corps to continue to build chemistry, not to mention give Albert, Asomoah and I'm sure Hudson (and yes, even Lilja) a much better quarterback to block for, which would allow them to gel a little bit more for next season as well. Those guys learn nothing about playing as a unit when they're blocking for a mad scrambler that wants to throw checkdowns all day. If anything, they'd pick up bad habits for 2012.

I'm sorry, but folks that are loudly against an Orton look are just shouting for the sake of doing so. I've been as vocal a 'draft a QB guy' as any, but Orton doesn't preclude that. Further, Orton would allow us to actually get something out of the last 1/2 of this season whereas Palko would just be marking time.

And yeah, I'd love to see us get Stanzi the PT, but it's not going to happen for whatever reason. The options are pretty obviously Orton or Palko. When those are your choices...you really don't have any choices. It's Orton in a landslide.

The shouts are so loud because they are more concerned at how the Donk fans will laugh if he fails...

Most of the fans here would rather lose than take what they perceive as other teams trash

BoneKrusher
11-22-2011, 04:58 PM
The Chicago Tribune and Fox Sports' Jay Glazer both report the Bears do indeed plan to put in a claim for Orton

yeah, they just better hope the Chiefs don't spoil it.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-22-2011, 04:58 PM
MattPomPomMatt Pomeroy


Current NFL waiver order: IND, CAR, STL, MIN, (WAS, ARI), (JAC, MIA), KC, CLE, (PHI, SD), SEA, TB, TEN, BUF, NYJ, DEN (coin toss)...

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 04:59 PM
Hell washington may take him

DJ's left nut
11-22-2011, 04:59 PM
How the hell does Orton help Baldwin grow? The guy got beat out by Rex Grossman and Tim Tebow. Check his stats they are the same as Cassel's.

He actually took the job from Grossman before a mediocre start and an injury gave it back to Grossman.

And no, he didn't get beat out by Tebow either; that was based on draft status and 'politics' (much as Cassel being the starter was, or Tyson Jackson, or any number of other examples in the NFL).

Orton is actually a pretty accurate, pretty willing downfield passer. Look what he did for the development of Brandon Lloyd.

Orton's a competent NFL quarterback. He's not great, but he's competent. That's enough to help the progression of a rookie WR a great deal.

You're not really this thick are you? Do you truly believe that only Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers would help develop Baldwin? Kyle Orton had a 2-1 TD/INT ratio and threw for about 3,700 yds/season w/ a completion% over 60% and a passer rating of 87 in his 2 seasons as a Broncos starter. That's definitely an adquate NFL quarterback and it can go a long way in the development of a raw rookie wideout like Baldwin.

Oh wait, I'm talking to Billay here. Yeah, you're just stupid enough to believe the shit you're shoveling. Nevermind.

Guru
11-22-2011, 05:00 PM
Hunt was done writing checks before this season.
FYP

Extra Point
11-22-2011, 05:01 PM
This is more about training Stanzi, than it is anything else. Put Orton on the roster, suck up renting his ass, get the Denver playbook, get the knowledge from playing AFCW opponents, and let him go, next season. In the right place, this guy can do things.

If Chicago wants him, great. If they take him, maybe Zorn and his wife can meet Orton and his wife for dinner. And a lot of drinks.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-22-2011, 05:01 PM
How the hell does Orton help Baldwin grow? The guy got beat out by Rex Grossman and Tim Tebow. Check his stats they are the same as Cassel's.

Orton had guys that made circus catches like Marshall and Lloyd. He could just throw it to them. I don't know why Cassel didn't do this with Baldwin and Bowe more often. I know that's not important and it's sad that we are discussing having a QB that simply just knows how to throw the ball up to guys, but that's the situation we're in sadly lol.

orange
11-22-2011, 05:02 PM
The way Hollywood has been scripting the Broncos the last few years, it seems inevitable that Orton becomes a Chief.

Tebow vs. Orton, week 17, playoffs on the line. Roll 'em!

ChiefsCountry
11-22-2011, 05:02 PM
Orton would give us a better QB but we are still not winning the next 4. Signing gives us a slight chance at beating the Raiders or Broncos but thats about it. Still we need a veteran QB on the roster that could start for us if need to. Palko is just fodder and Stanzi is just a 5th round pick.

Extra Point
11-22-2011, 05:03 PM
Orton had guys that made circus catches like Marshall and Lloyd. He could just throw it to them. I don't know why Cassel didn't do this with Baldwin and Bowe more often. I know that's not important and it's sad that we are discussing having a QB that simply just knows how to throw the ball up to guys, but that's the situation we're in sadly lol.

Good point. Cassel, nor Palko, have any touch on the ball. Stanzi does. Orton, sure as shit, does, too.

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 05:03 PM
He actually took the job from Grossman before a mediocre start and an injury gave it back to Grossman.

And no, he didn't get beat out by Tebow either; that was based on draft status and 'politics' (much as Cassel being the starter was, or Tyson Jackson, or any number of other examples in the NFL).

Orton is actually a pretty accurate, pretty willing downfield passer. Look what he did for the development of Brandon Lloyd.

Orton's a competent NFL quarterback. He's not great, but he's competent. That's enough to help the progression of a rookie WR a great deal.

You're not really this thick are you? Do you truly believe that only Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers would help develop Baldwin? Kyle Orton had a 2-1 TD/INT ratio and threw for about 3,700 yds/season w/ a completion% over 60% and a passer rating of 87 in his 2 seasons as a Broncos starter. That's definitely an adquate NFL quarterback and it can go a long way in the development of a raw rookie wideout like Baldwin.

Oh wait, I'm talking to Billay here. Yeah, you're just stupid enough to believe the shit you're shoveling. Nevermind.

This.

Does anyone think Bowe is going to want to stay here if he's repeatedly thrown to by a retarded monkey? You know he's going to get progressively more upset every week that they shuffle Palko out there to throw him the ball.

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 05:04 PM
He actually took the job from Grossman before a mediocre start and an injury gave it back to Grossman.

And no, he didn't get beat out by Tebow either; that was based on draft status and 'politics' (much as Cassel being the starter was, or Tyson Jackson, or any number of other examples in the NFL).

Orton is actually a pretty accurate, pretty willing downfield passer. Look what he did for the development of Brandon Lloyd.

Orton's a competent NFL quarterback. He's not great, but he's competent. That's enough to help the progression of a rookie WR a great deal.

You're not really this thick are you? Do you truly believe that only Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers would help develop Baldwin? Kyle Orton had a 2-1 TD/INT ratio and threw for about 3,700 yds/season w/ a completion% over 60% and a passer rating of 87 in his 2 seasons as a Broncos starter. That's definitely an adquate NFL quarterback and it can go a long way in the development of a raw rookie wideout like Baldwin.

Oh wait, I'm talking to Billay here. Yeah, you're just stupid enough to believe the shit you're shoveling. Nevermind.

Why so defensive? Oh wait it's DJ the know it all who gets his beef curtains in a knot whenever someone disagrees with his bullshit opinions.

Elway has openly stated that Tebow isn't the guy so if Orton was worth a fuck he'd still be the starter on the team.

A guy who doesn't even know the playbook with 5 weeks left is going to coming in here and really help out Baldwin? LMAO

We should do everything in our power to acquire an average at best QB so we don't have to risk drafting one in the first round. It makes perfect sense.

Count Alex's Wins
11-22-2011, 05:05 PM
This.

Does anyone think Bowe is going to want to stay here if he's repeatedly thrown to by a retarded monkey? You know he's going to get progressively more upset every week that they shuffle Palko out there to throw him the ball.

He had 7 catches for 87 yards.

He's going to be fine, and will be franchised.

BoneKrusher
11-22-2011, 05:05 PM
This.

Does anyone think Bowe is going to want to stay here if he's repeatedly thrown to by a retarded monkey? You know he's going to get progressively more upset every week that they shuffle Palko out there to throw him the ball.
:thumb:ROFL

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 05:06 PM
This.

Does anyone think Bowe is going to want to stay here if he's repeatedly thrown to by a retarded monkey? You know he's going to get progressively more upset every week that they shuffle Palko out there to throw him the ball.

It doesn't matter Bowe will be tagged at the end of the season and Orton is only here for 5 games before he would become a free agent.

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 05:06 PM
He had 7 catches for 87 yards.

He's going to be fine, and will be franchised.

Yeah....he'll be franchised. And then he'll pull the usual bullshit where he refuses to sign the tag.

Orton is not going to will this team to the playoffs. What he's going to do is give this team the ability to accurately see what they have on offense.

mcaj22
11-22-2011, 05:06 PM
seriously if Bowe has to finish this season with a stain like Palko and a 5th rounder like Stanzi and then has to chance either a rookie QB question mark and/or Cassel again next season he absolutely will test FA or want a lot of money from the Chiefs to make it attractive for him to stay, because the QB options certainly are not.

no reason a guy like him wants to be around any of those god awful QB scenarios

rageeumr
11-22-2011, 05:06 PM
I don't think Stanzi is the future. As such, I fully support Orton as a stop-gap over any of the brokedicks we have as a stop-gap.

Extra Point
11-22-2011, 05:07 PM
It doesn't matter Bowe will be tagged at the end of the season and Orton is only here for 5 games before he would become a free agent.

Exactly. Rent his ass, and drive on.

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 05:07 PM
It doesn't matter Bowe will be tagged at the end of the season and Orton is only here for 5 games before he would become a free agent.

And who would you rather have as a veteran QB here next year? Orton or Cassel?

I would rather this team resign Orton to a 1-2 year deal while drafting a QB in the 1st round.

Count Alex's Wins
11-22-2011, 05:08 PM
Yeah....he'll be franchised. And then he'll pull the usual bullshit where he refuses to sign the tag.

Orton is not going to will this team to the playoffs. What he's going to do is give this team the ability to accurately see what they have on offense.

Oh, I agree we should sign Orton.

But we won't.

Cassel will be the starter next season. Bowe has a good thing going with him. Everyone will be happy, Charles, Berry and Moeaki will be back and we'll have a mediocre season and everyone keeps their jobs!

DaFace
11-22-2011, 05:08 PM
And who would you rather have as a veteran QB here next year? Orton or Cassel?

I would rather this team resign Orton to a 1-2 year deal while drafting a QB in the 1st round.

I hope neither Orton nor Cassel were here, but if I had to choose between the two, I think it'd have to be Orton. :Lin:

Extra Point
11-22-2011, 05:08 PM
seriously if Bowe has to finish this season with a stain like Palko and a 5th rounder like Stanzi and then has to chance either a rookie QB question mark and/or Cassel again next season he absolutely will test FA or want a lot of money from the Chiefs to make it attractive for him to stay, because the QB options certainly are not.

no reason a guy like him wants to be around any of those god awful QB scenarios

Yes. But, remember last week's drop? Any, last nite? Bowe will treated right. Cobblepot's not that stupid.

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 05:08 PM
Orton would give us a better QB but we are still not winning the next 4. Signing gives us a slight chance at beating the Raiders or Broncos but thats about it. Still we need a veteran QB on the roster that could start for us if need to. Palko is just fodder and Stanzi is just a 5th round pick.

I don't care if Stanzi is just a 5th rounder. He has the intangables to play QB in the Pros. With out opportunity he can't prove or disprove his value or show that maybe he should have been picked higher in the draft. He wouldn't be the first 5th rounder to make fame in the NFL if he does. It's an "if" but with out opportunity or taking risk then nothing is gained.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-22-2011, 05:09 PM
How about cutting Cassel, draft a QB in the first round, re-up Orton to be the UHAUL until the 1st rounder is ready?

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 05:09 PM
Yeah....he'll be franchised. And then he'll pull the usual bullshit where he refuses to sign the tag.

Orton is not going to will this team to the playoffs. What he's going to do is give this team the ability to accurately see what they have on offense.

How so? He'll have a month to know the playbook and get adjusted to everything. That's not much time.

DJ's left nut
11-22-2011, 05:09 PM
We should do everything in our power to acquire an average at best QB so we don't have to risk drafting one in the first round. It makes perfect sense.

Apart from this being completely opposite of what I said, you're absolutely right.

It's easy to deconstruct arguments you've made up from whole cloth, isn't it?

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 05:10 PM
And who would you rather have as a veteran QB here next year? Orton or Cassel?

I would rather this team resign Orton to a 1-2 year deal while drafting a QB in the 1st round.

I'd rather solidify our spot in the draft and then sign Jason Campbell as the veteran backup for a year or two.

KC Tattoo
11-22-2011, 05:10 PM
I don't think Stanzi is the future. As such, I fully support Orton as a stop-gap over any of the brokedicks we have as a stop-gap.

:thumb: / Carl Peterson

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 05:10 PM
Apart from this being completely opposite of what I said, you're absolutely right.

It's easy to deconstruct arguments you've made up from whole cloth, isn't it?

It's easy to pretend like you know everything from your dorm room isn't it?

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:11 PM
You would be better off signing fatass Jameatloaf than play Palko

Aries Walker
11-22-2011, 05:12 PM
Chiefs should put in a claim on him. We will need a good backup/potential early season starter for our rookie QB next year.
This. Bring him in, let him mentor the new guy that I really hope we get (maybe Jones or Landry).

Chiefs Pantalones
11-22-2011, 05:13 PM
This. Bring him in, let him mentor the new guy that I really hope we get (maybe Jones or Landry).

Aren't those guys the same...guy?

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 05:13 PM
Stanzi should be the starter the last 6 games period.

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 05:14 PM
Stanzi should be the starter the last 6 games period.

Yeah....and Thomas Jones should be cut. Neither one of these things is going to happen though.

DJ's left nut
11-22-2011, 05:14 PM
It's easy to pretend like you know everything from your dorm room isn't it?

Try again, sweetheart. I'm not gonna get into an employment dick measuring contest with you, but I'm also not at all worried about the possibility of losing it.

You're the one that lacked the reading comprehension to adequately rebut anything I said so instead resorted to making up scenarios I never suggested. Nice attempt at obfuscation, but you failed pretty miserably.

Go ahead and convince me that Baldwin isn't better off getting passes over the next several weeks from Orton than he is getting them from Tyler fucking Palko.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:15 PM
Stanzi should be the starter the last 6 games period.

Yup and when he sucks it leaves the door open for Cassel to get a contract extension

Bane
11-22-2011, 05:17 PM
Yup and when he sucks it leaves the door open for Cassel to get a contract extension

I'm surprised Pioli doesn't have it in ink already.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:19 PM
If you people dream of seeing no more Cassel, you better bring in a vet like Orton to prove it's his fault for the poor play.

Chocolate Hog
11-22-2011, 05:20 PM
Try again, sweetheart. I'm not gonna get into an employment dick measuring contest with you, but I'm also not at all worried about the possibility of losing it.

You're the one that lacked the reading comprehension to adequately rebut anything I said so instead resorted to making up scenarios I never suggested. Nice attempt at obfuscation, but you failed pretty miserably.

Go ahead and convince me that Baldwin isn't better off getting passes over the next several weeks from Orton than he is getting them from Tyler ****ing Palko.

I never said that was your take I choose not to engage your points because it's pointless in doing so with a guy who never thinks he's wrong.

I don't see how 1 month will help Baldwin out a lot i'm much more intrigued to learn about what we have in Ricky Stanzi he should be the starter. Either we have a guy who's capable to be a backup or a guy who needs another year at 3rd string next year.

Extra Point
11-22-2011, 05:20 PM
This. Bring him in, let him mentor the new guy that I really hope we get (maybe Jones or Landry).

BS. Agreed with the "this," but kicking a draft pick to the curb, is nonsense. Stanzi needs to ride the pine, until his number is called. And with the right fucking plays, HALEY and MUIR!

DaFace
11-22-2011, 05:20 PM
You would be better off signing fatass Jameatloaf than play Palko

Whoa, whoa, whoa...let's not get carried away here. :)

tredadda
11-22-2011, 05:20 PM
Screw that packing the shit in for next year talk... Screw the draft picks.. I was embarrassed when my Raiders had the first pick, that meant they were the worst ****ing team in the NFL.

Aren't you tired of the next year shit by now?

Yes which is why we don't need Orton. 40 years of bringing in serviceable at best QB's has led to our "next year" mentality. Orton will not be a long term solution for us so what does bringing him in this year do for us besides hurt our draft position. We need to draft high this year to get a QB that can actually be more than serviceable. All Orton does is jeopardize that with no real hope of taking us to the promised land. Remember he is being waived because he sucked so bad that Denver replaced him with TEBOW!

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 05:23 PM
Clark says hold on everyone. That excess money is already spoken for by me and the missus. You have made it this far with 4 major injuries and noone signed. Deal with it

Tim45ks
11-22-2011, 05:23 PM
I Bet he goes back to the Bears an wins playoff game for them

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:23 PM
Yes which is why we don't need Orton. 40 years of bringing in serviceable at best QB's has led to our "next year" mentality. Orton will not be a long term solution for us so what does bringing him in this year do for us besides hurt our draft position. We need to draft high this year to get a QB that can actually be more than serviceable. All Orton does is jeopardize that with no real hope of taking us to the promised land. Remember he is being waived because he sucked so bad that Denver replaced him with TEBOW!

Ok pop quiz

Who would be the best QB out of these 3 to prove to the coaching staff that Cassel is the problem

Orton (seasoned vet)
Palko (Todd Marijuanavich wanna be)
Stanzi (a 5th rounder who probably gets coffee for the staff during meetings)

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 05:24 PM
Ok pop quiz

Who would be the best QB out of these 3 to prove to the coaching staff that Cassel is the problem

Orton (seasoned vet)
Palko (Todd Marijuanavich wanna be)
Stanzi (a 5th rounder who probably gets coffee for the staff during meetings)

R8ers. The voice of reason on a Chiefs message board.ROFL

CoMoChief
11-22-2011, 05:26 PM
We may wanna bring him in for a look.

But that's a two way street. He can choose where he wants to go, and KC may be far off the list because Haley is an asshole.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:28 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa...let's not get carried away here. :)

Yea it sounds stupid but they say he has a life mentor now who is guiding him in the right direction... I am afraid that dude will be back in the NFL one day and prove why he was liked by so many.

I am totally convinced it was the drugs and laziness that caused his downfall. If he ever learns to do without those two in his life, he could be a beast.

You guys mostly seen the shit side of him and that was the majority of his career but he had faint flashes of brilliant play at times.

He ruined the Raiders and I can't stand him but he has the tools and excellent footwork for a big man. His attitude and his refusal to play in the UFL or the CFL is why he has not gotten another shot anywhere I think...

Attitude.

Extra Point
11-22-2011, 05:28 PM
If you people dream of seeing no more Cassel, you better bring in a vet like Orton to prove it's his fault for the poor play.

And Johnny Carson says, in character: "WOOOoooooo!!!! Have we got a deal for you!! A used up, signature battle axe, endorsed by Carson Palmer! Guaranteed to last before the last three games of the season!"

That's what we get, for making the playoffs last year.

Does that give you any idea what the laughing stock is, that the AFCW has become?

(Leno will have some material, but we won't voice it! He'll just go with his old hometown, for his shitty monologues.)

lewdog
11-22-2011, 05:29 PM
If you people dream of seeing no more Cassel, you better bring in a vet like Orton to prove it's his fault for the poor play.

Ok pop quiz

Who would be the best QB out of these 3 to prove to the coaching staff that Cassel is the problem

Orton (seasoned vet)
Palko (Todd Marijuanavich wanna be)
Stanzi (a 5th rounder who probably gets coffee for the staff during meetings)

Woah....I agree with R8ers all out. We need someone to show Cassel blows dick and it sure won't be Stanzi or Palko.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:30 PM
R8ers. The voice of reason on a Chiefs message board.ROFL

Alot of the people here are looking at it from an emotional stand point, I am looking at it as an objective football fan and just playing GM

If I thought my thoughts were read by anyone in the Chiefs organization when it comes to my brilliant mind, I would be quiet. LMAO

Chiefs Pantalones
11-22-2011, 05:30 PM
Woah....I agree with R8ers all out. We need someone to show Cassel blows dick and it sure won't be Stanzi or Palko.

As insane as it sounds, I don't think Haley and/or Pioli want anyone to show that Cassel sucks.

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 05:34 PM
It will take another Silver Thursday for Clark Hunt and his family to change. It ain't about winning for him, its about the bottom line. PROFIT

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:36 PM
And Johnny Carson says, in character: "WOOOoooooo!!!! Have we got a deal for you!! A used up, signature battle axe, endorsed by Carson Palmer! Guaranteed to last before the last three games of the season!"

That's what we get, for making the playoffs last year.

Does that give you any idea what the laughing stock is, that the AFCW has become?

(Leno will have some material, but we won't voice it! He'll just go with his old hometown, for his shitty monologues.)

Raiders had a choice, start Boller and look like Palko for the rest of the year or try to do something about it....

Carson Palmer has taken command of the Raiders offense and has brought leadership to this team. How much is that worth?

You can hate on Carson, you can say he is old, you can say the Raiders overpaid but just think how Bowe and Baldwin would be feeling right now if they had a QB like Palmer throwing pinpoint accurate passes at them...

The Raiders made the move, the Raiders now sell out games, the Raiders are still winning with a injury riddled team... How can you argue with that? The goal is to win.

bevischief
11-22-2011, 05:37 PM
Orton is due $8 million this year.... I wonder how many teams will be willing to claim that contract.

KC can...

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:37 PM
KC can...

Orton is not due that much only the balance of the season... 1.5 mil or less

Extra Point
11-22-2011, 05:39 PM
It will take another Silver Thursday for Clark Hunt and his family to change. It ain't about winning for him, its about the bottom line. PROFIT

What's the price of silver done, over the last three years?

Aren't the Chiefs keeping ticket prices flat/marking them down?

An economist told me, that it's all about expectations.

Or, expectorating, or, for this season, excreting.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:43 PM
Oh and also, all you need is a qb that can move the ball with the offense, even if you lose this should send a message.

Haley wants to keep his job and I am positive he will put the person in there that makes him look the best.

lewdog
11-22-2011, 05:44 PM
As insane as it sounds, I don't think Haley and/or Pioli want anyone to show that Cassel sucks.

Definitely not Pioli since he performs filacio on Cassel every night but Haley doesn't like Cassel and I think he would prefer to show that he can do some different things if he had even an average QB he could trust.

Too bad Haley doesn't have much say in player decisions with old Pioli and Hunt at the helm.

bevischief
11-22-2011, 05:45 PM
KC has no one else worth a damn at this point of the season. Bring him in and it doesn't cost a 1st rounder... And hopefully they draft someone and may the best QB win. Don't care who at this point. They can always trade him next year...

lewdog
11-22-2011, 05:46 PM
Oh and also, all you need is a qb that can move the ball with the offense, even if you lose this should send a message.


Exactly. I don't want Orton coming in and winning games but if he can even put up some decent passing numbers (keep the Chiefs competitive) with this murderous schedule and develop some quick chemistry with Bowe and Baldwin, I am all for it.

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 05:47 PM
We may wanna bring him in for a look.

But that's a two way street. He can choose where he wants to go, and KC may be far off the list because Haley is an asshole.

No he can't. He can be claimed off of waivers. He goes to whichever team claims him.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:48 PM
Maybe draft a qb, maybe bring in McNabb for a year, he is not done.

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 05:52 PM
Fuck McNabb. I won't agree with you on that one.

R8RFAN
11-22-2011, 05:55 PM
**** McNabb. I won't agree with you on that one.

Why? McNabb is not a long term solution but could stop the bleeding until a youngster is ready.

Pick a F/A then...

How bout Jason Campbell?

Pestilence
11-22-2011, 05:56 PM
Why? McNabb is not a long term solution but could stop the bleeding until a youngster is ready.

Pick a F/A then...

How bout Jason Campbell?

I'd take Orton or Campbell. McNabb is fucking done.

lewdog
11-22-2011, 05:57 PM
I agree. No McNabb, he looked horrible in Minnesota, even with a back like AP. He is done.