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KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 07:12 PM
Starts at 9 (or shortly after) on ESPN2. Mizzou looked good thumping Notre Dame by 29 last night. This should be a tough test though, against a higher ranked ranked Cal team.

DrunkBassGuitar
11-22-2011, 07:38 PM
also on ESPN3 but I hate Mizzou

Sure-Oz
11-22-2011, 08:17 PM
I'd be at this game if i wasn't working

|Zach|
11-22-2011, 08:17 PM
Get it goin boys.

-King-
11-22-2011, 08:23 PM
I like this offense MUCH more than that fastest 40 minutes shit.

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 08:24 PM
English shooting lights out this year

doomy3
11-22-2011, 08:25 PM
Good luck tonight, guys. I fucking hate the players for Cal (Especially Gutierrez) way more than I hate MU.

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 08:26 PM
English shooting lights out this yearLove it after last season. I like English a lot. I'm rooting hard for him to have a great senior season.

Priest31kc
11-22-2011, 08:26 PM
I like this offense MUCH more than that fastest 40 minutes shit.

This.

PriestMVP31
11-22-2011, 08:28 PM
They actually have a plan on the offensive end! Wow!

-King-
11-22-2011, 08:28 PM
We've missed too many defensive boards already.

-King-
11-22-2011, 08:30 PM
It's amazing how uncongested the floor looks when players actually have plays to run instead of just random movement.

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 08:33 PM
Looks like rebounding could be the Achilles Heel for the Tigers again this year

Reerun_KC
11-22-2011, 08:36 PM
Love it after last season. I like English a lot. I'm rooting hard for him to have a great senior season.

He still living in the gym?

Dartgod
11-22-2011, 08:38 PM
Thanks for the jinx, moron!

PriestMVP31
11-22-2011, 08:39 PM
Kimmie has drawn three charges! Need to improve on the boards for sure, though. That'll be an uphill climb all year for this team, height is an issue.

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 08:47 PM
Hell yes.

Dartgod
11-22-2011, 08:50 PM
So this is what a disciplined team looks like?

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 08:50 PM
Never seen that many charges in a half called before

Molitoth
11-22-2011, 08:51 PM
Looking good so far.

|Zach|
11-22-2011, 08:54 PM
The Brothers Pressey.

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 08:55 PM
Moore with the set shot

PriestMVP31
11-22-2011, 08:56 PM
HAHA STEVE MOORE

|Zach|
11-22-2011, 08:56 PM
Big Steve Moore just made a 3.

Dogs and cats...living together...mass hysteria.

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 08:56 PM
This is fun. Keep it up fellas.

Priest31kc
11-22-2011, 08:57 PM
This could be a very fun final year in the Big 12...

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 08:57 PM
Big Steve Moore just made a 3.

Dogs and cats...living together...mass hysteria.He's had a hell of a first half. That's icing on the cake. (Well, his first half cake.)

petegz28
11-22-2011, 09:01 PM
We aren't looking too bad, fellas

Reerun_KC
11-22-2011, 09:05 PM
We aren't looking too bad, fellas

Guess you get to put the white flag up for another time Petey.....

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 09:11 PM
Fantastic half. They've still got the speed and knack for getting turnovers, but they're playing under control. Working to get good shooters good looks. Playing inside out. I'm excited.

petegz28
11-22-2011, 09:13 PM
Fantastic half. They've still got the speed and knack for getting turnovers, but they're playing under control. Working to get good shooter good looks. Playing inside out. I'm excited.

Yes they are. Not getting into foul trouble 4 minutes into the game seems to really be a smart strategy. Going inside instead of slinging up 3's every posession seems to be a smart strategy. Who'd a thunk?

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 09:15 PM
Still using the speed

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 09:17 PM
Still using the speedYep. We're undersized but we've got quickness in spades.

Trevo_410
11-22-2011, 09:19 PM
did you guys here this shit on the news? this 81 year old dude from kansas got enough road rage when he saw somebody(a 65 yo from st louis) with a missouri licence tag that he pull him over, got out a shotgun and killed him... all in the neutral site of texas....

OH YEAH, BUT KANSAS DOESN"T FUCKING CARE

kchero
11-22-2011, 09:26 PM
Denmon!

Molitoth
11-22-2011, 09:26 PM
It's really weird hearing Vitale suck the MU knob. I could get used to this.

eazyb81
11-22-2011, 09:26 PM
Wow we look amazing.

Up 20 early in the second half.

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 09:29 PM
Let em play

KChiefs1
11-22-2011, 09:30 PM
Dickie V is really loving on Mizzou.

baitism
11-22-2011, 09:31 PM
A foul for that? Really?

Stanley Nickels
11-22-2011, 09:31 PM
This Missouri team is so much better than I expected, even with the veterans we brought back. Just great motion on both ends

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 09:32 PM
Missouri dominating

kchero
11-22-2011, 09:33 PM
Awesome baby with a capital M.......hahahaha Dickey V

eazyb81
11-22-2011, 09:33 PM
Up over 30 now.

Is Mike Alden a genius for hiring Haith? This is insane.

Priest31kc
11-22-2011, 09:34 PM
This is just awesome.

Jewish Rabbi
11-22-2011, 09:35 PM
A team that actually comes to play both halves? See you in Shitville, Anderson.

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 09:36 PM
This is just awesome.QFT

Stanley Nickels
11-22-2011, 09:36 PM
Wow. I'm just.. shocked at how this team has congealed, ESPECIALLY through a coaching transition. If this were Haith's team for the past four years, this improvement would be astounding. But to go through a coaching change and be this good? Im really happy. And I realize the "way to early" implications of that, but I'm happy regardless. Laying off the full-court press has allowed these guys to compose themselves and really show their talents outside of a system that requires them to do things that they're not used to doing. Now, they're able to play intense D in a half-court setting, giving up fewer layups, and on offense they're showing a better ability to attack the zone and use their speed to their advantage. Off-ball movement is 100% better than last year, and our team's unselfish manner can really excel.

PriestMVP31
11-22-2011, 09:37 PM
I can't believe this. Haith has performed some sort of miracle with this team.

Dartgod
11-22-2011, 09:38 PM
Yep. We're undersized but we've got quickness in spades.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/002/135/sw50sw8sw578.gif?1293729577

Trevo_410
11-22-2011, 09:39 PM
i have thought since two years ago that when this class becomes seniors we will be awesome. Even after the FH hire(which I was ok with, fuck you assholes in the Frank Haith Hiring thread) I thought we were an under the radar team no matter what. This however is surprising, great games...

kchero
11-22-2011, 09:42 PM
Imagine that all of this so far is without Bowers. Im impressed by HCFH.

kchero
11-22-2011, 09:48 PM
Dirty Dirty Gutierrez.

Oso
11-22-2011, 09:48 PM
Take a seat, douche.

KC_Connection
11-22-2011, 09:52 PM
Don't you just hate Gutierrez?

Spott
11-22-2011, 09:53 PM
I recorded the game but I haven't seen them play yet this year. I'm assuming that 40 minutes of bs is finally over. Too bad we're not in the SEC this year so we can play Arkansas.

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 09:53 PM
Don't you just hate Gutierrez?

His level of play doesn't appear to be near as good as he envisions it to be

KC_Connection
11-22-2011, 09:54 PM
Mike Anderson always used to take his jacket off when the game got serious. Does Haith take it off in blowouts?

Al Bundy
11-22-2011, 09:55 PM
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u359/BuccaneerBruce/Photo0209.jpg

baitism
11-22-2011, 09:57 PM
I saw that. Stay classy there, polo guy.

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 09:57 PM
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u359/BuccaneerBruce/Photo0209.jpg

Looks like it could be his father sitting right behind him. He should have kicked his ass

kchero
11-22-2011, 09:57 PM
Don't you just hate Gutierrez?

You called it.

Spott
11-22-2011, 09:59 PM
Looks like it could be his father sitting right behind him. He should have kicked his ass

At first glance I thought the guy in the yellow shirt was Chase Daniel.

kchero
11-22-2011, 10:01 PM
Yeah, seriously dude the game isnt close and your flipping the bird.

KC_Connection
11-22-2011, 10:05 PM
KenPom had MU winning this game by 2, and he had them ranked 12th in the NCAA before the game. They're gonna climb the rankings.

beer bacon
11-22-2011, 10:06 PM
feels good

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 10:11 PM
After following the Royals and then the Chiefs, this is refreshing

kchero
11-22-2011, 10:13 PM
Sutton!

KC_Connection
11-22-2011, 10:14 PM
Yeah...a 39 PT win when you're expected to win by 2 will raise them over some teams.

stonedstooge
11-22-2011, 10:14 PM
Hope there are several efforts like this upcoming for this team

mnchiefsguy
11-22-2011, 10:15 PM
Nice non-con win over a top 20 team. Good for the tournament resume.

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 10:16 PM
Well, that went well... LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-22-2011, 10:21 PM
That last three was Belichickean.

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 10:21 PM
That last three was Belichickean.LMAO

Sure-Oz
11-22-2011, 10:22 PM
A team that actually comes to play both halves? See you in Shitville, Anderson.

Fucking love it

-King-
11-22-2011, 10:24 PM
When asked by Gabe DeArmond of PowerMizzou and InsideSTL how they can reconcile the fact that Anderson went from saying he remained committed to the players just last week to today when he decided to take a job elsewhere, Kim English took one last heart felt jab at his former coach.


“We’ll reconcile it by winning,” English said as he walked away from the podium.

kchero
11-22-2011, 10:26 PM
When asked by Gabe DeArmond of PowerMizzou and InsideSTL how they can reconcile the fact that Anderson went from saying he remained committed to the players just last week to today when he decided to take a job elsewhere, Kim English took one last heart felt jab at his former coach.


“We’ll reconcile it by winning,” English said as he walked away from the podium.

:thumb:

rageeumr
11-22-2011, 10:28 PM
I may have already had more fun than I expected the entire season.

Imagine if we would have landed Otto Porter. Fuck you, Mike Anderson. Fuck you very much.

Demonpenz
11-22-2011, 10:47 PM
Mike Anderson is going to pay the piper once he comes back to Mizzou. They play in the sec ya dig?

KChiefs1
11-22-2011, 10:48 PM
Mizzou beat the 18th ranked team by 39 points?!?!?!?!?!

WTF??????

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 10:51 PM
Mizzou beat the 18th ranked team by 39 points?!?!?!?!?!

WTF??????Even Sutton got in on the action. Two 3-pointers at the end on two shots.

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 10:59 PM
Englishscope24 Kim English
The Missouri Tigers are the CBE Classic Champions! #KansasCityyyyyyy! Love my team! Love our fans! Love This State. #Missouri!

KcMizzou
11-22-2011, 11:02 PM
How can you not like Kim English?

Trevo_410
11-22-2011, 11:11 PM
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atleast we got a head coach now right?

im not mad about the hire, it couldve been better but i think haith is a guy who could if he is successful,,, stick around for more than 10 years,,, one thing id like to know is how much mizzou is going to pay him with his initial contract.

Wow, The Mizzou fan base is seriously pissing me off right now; not mike alden/haith but the mizzou fan base itself. As we now got a coach people are going ape shit over the fact that we didn't get a coach on the same level as what we thought we could get. Yes im not happy but really did you think we were going to do a whole lot better? The only real pull we got here at mizzou for 1st-3rd tier coaches is our facilities, money, and our poorly talented recruiting bases in kc and stl. Why would one of those coaches not want to come here? I'll tell you why, because they saw what happens if you don't succeed here in mizzou; by succeeding, sadly, i mean winning a championship. Look at Mike Andersons situation, he takes a program from rock bottom after quin snyders reign and elevated it to be an annual tournament attendee. This year, the tigers obviously didn't exceed expectations put on them by the fans and press. THis resulting in alot of hate towards MA, which ultimately resulted in him packing and leaving to arkansas. I don't blame him with the amount of hate he was receiveing from the fan base, why would you want to stay? I brought up the situation with Kim English yesterday, the guy obviously had a bad year with mizzou and has been punched with hate mail for everything he has done wrong over the season. Throughout all of this Kim English has continued to respect and show support for his hateful mizzou fans. What I'm trying to say is criticizing people like KE, MA, or our new coach doesn't help the situation at all, it will rather be ignored or it will be took seriously and eventually hurt mizzou. Support your team when it has problems don't talk trash and instigate conflict. so support your team and new coach Frank Haith to a brand new era, or **** you, i thought our fans were better than this.

ive never hated on kimmie, the dude is the very loyal to our program, even though he did have an off year, we shouldn't be bashing him 24/7, we should be supporting him like a good fan base does. just sayin to all the haters out there, no one in particular. i have a feeling he's going to come back next year and dominate.


i havent been persuaded or been fed propaganda at all. This is the same pitch i've been on since sunday night, you can't judge a man from what he did in one of the tougher conferences at a school where he isn't even recognized. You got to give him a chance and support him, negativity is not helping the cause at all.

and i don't care if my grammar isn't correct, if i wanted tips on writing i'll tell you

this will turn out just the way last years chiefs draft was. Everybody hated what we got back then, even though they only knew the players names. Once training camp came along and they hear that the rookies are doing good, they finally stopped talking shit on all the players, notably McCluster, and we ended with one of teh best draft classes in the NFL 2011 season.

just sayin ._.

wow, **** you guys, you'll jump on the bandwagon for team haith, just wait.

Faith in Haith. Reconcile by Winning, Fuck you Haters.

KC_Connection
11-22-2011, 11:20 PM
Haith is clearly a genius coach.

Pitt Gorilla
11-22-2011, 11:37 PM
The clowns that hated on English really need to STFU, or perhaps they already have.

Pitt Gorilla
11-22-2011, 11:43 PM
http://media.signonsandiego.com/img/photos/2011/11/22/238b71d4-f263-4f32-9d06-e2ea0c9503d1news.ap.org_t620.jpg?3ba288e077780dca5879b70fc3e0b2d025cf5799

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-23-2011, 01:25 AM
The clowns that hated on English really need to STFU, or perhaps they already have.

Fuck off. That guy was an absolute piece of shit last year. He was easily one of the worst starters on any team in a BCS conference. When you play like a heartless, gutless pussy you will get bashed and rightfully so.

Perhaps you need to STFU, because sure as shit is brown I don't remember you coming to his defense last year.

eazyb81
11-23-2011, 06:08 AM
Haith is clearly a genius coach.

Probably not, but it is safe to say that he is looking much better than anyone except Mike Alden anticipated.

This team is playing tough, smart, and unselfish, and we actually look like we have a plan on both ends of the court. The transformation is incredible.

Dartgod
11-23-2011, 06:10 AM
Probably not, but it is safe to say that he is looking much better than anyone except Mike Alden anticipated.

This team is playing tough, smart, and unselfish, and we actually look like we have a plan on both ends of the court. The transformation is incredible.

Hopefully they can keep it up. I'm afraid to buy in yet.

eazyb81
11-23-2011, 06:47 AM
Hopefully they can keep it up. I'm afraid to buy in yet.

I think it is safe to buy in without making any grand predictions. ku is still the favorite for the Big 12 title. But this team is going to be fun to watch and they are easy to root for, so hopefully the fanbase gets behind them.

eazyb81
11-23-2011, 06:47 AM
"Missouri's good. We knew it was a tough matchup from the get-go, and there's nothing we can do about that," Montgomery said. "It's a tough matchup for a lot of people."

The lows for Cal:

The 39-point margin of defeat equals the Bears' fourth-worst in a game since 1937. (Worst ever was 101-50 to Stanford, coached by Montgomery, in 2000.)

It was their worst loss in 106 games under Montgomery, exceeding 109-77 loss at UW last year.

It was their worst nonconference loss ever.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/cal-bears/ci_19396328

Saul Good
11-23-2011, 07:20 AM
Went to the game last night, and I can't even tell you how hard these guys play. I've never been that high on Flip. He was just too short with too small of a wingspan to play in Anderson's system. That said, he is fantastic under the new system.

The guy gave everything he had on defense. The whole team did. They play defense with their feet and their knees and their hips and their chests. It wasn't a bunch of lazy reaches trying to swat at steals. Pressey was in grills. If they moved an inch, he moved an inch. If he slipped, be was up so quickly that he didn't lose position.
Cal has a ton of size, and they beat us up on the boards. Nearly half their buckets were on second and third chance putbacks, but it wasn't due to lack of effort or position on our part. They are just. Huge. When Haith brought in Steve Moore, the game was over. That guy locked down the lane and played out of his mind. He was our most valuable player last night regardless of what the stats say.

It was also great to see us win big when Denmon didn't have to carry the team. He played well, but he was just another part of the team. I hope he can settle into that role. At one point, I commented to my friend that we were up 15, and Denmon only had 3 or 4 points and that I hope he didn't feel like he needed to "get his". He immediately chucked up a contested 3 that. Led to a fast break where he had to foul on the other end. It was one of literally onlt two or three bad shots we took all night.


What a tournament. 68 point total margin of victory over very legit competition in incredible. Poor Bob Fescoe. He's got to worry about the Tigers hurting more that KU's strength of schedule.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-23-2011, 07:29 AM
How much of their success do you think can be attributed to a) the importance of senior leadership and maturity and b) not running a system that looks like a bunch of Chupacabras trying to fuck goats in the Mexican flatlands?

Saul Good
11-23-2011, 07:41 AM
How much of their success do you think can be attributed to a) the importance of senior leadership and maturity and b) not running a system that looks like a bunch of Chupacabras trying to **** goats in the Mexican flatlands?

The system is a big improvement. We look like we're incredibly well-conditioned, but we don't nullify it by running ourselves ragged for 40 minutes a game for 35 games.

I also think that English is finally healthy. He had a torn ligament in his hand last season, and he couldn't shoot. It looked like he was trying to find other ways to contribute, but he wound up just trying to do too much. Because there was no structure to the offense, there was no opportunity to be a floor general.

He just looks like a different guy out there now. When Flip is getting too riled up, English is there to settle him down. Its the same for Dixon to a lesser extent. The team just plays well together, and they seem to genuinely enjoy being teammates on the court. They make the extra pass. They move without the ball and trust that their teammates will find them. They help and rotate well on defense. They even make free throws. Its really too bad Bowers is hurt, not just because he would help the team, but because I think he really misses playing with these guys.

eazyb81
11-23-2011, 07:49 AM
How much of their success do you think can be attributed to a) the importance of senior leadership and maturity and b) not running a system that looks like a bunch of Chupacabras trying to **** goats in the Mexican flatlands?

I think suitcase mike's full court press is a terribly flawed style to rely on, but playing it for a few years helped our current players in transitioning to Haith's half-court style. We still play with intensity and look to run when we create a turnover, but we stay in front of our man better and don't give up the easy baskets that the press tends to allow.

We also look like we actually have an identity on offense which is helping to get the most out of our senior leadership. We run screens, make the extra pass (or 2 or 3), cut to the basket, play inside-out - coaching we haven't since Norm was here.

Dartgod
11-23-2011, 08:11 AM
Last night was the first opportunity I've had to watch them this season and I was immediately impressed on how disciplined they seemed to be. They got a little sloppy midway through the second half, but then settled down and went on another huge run.

I'm excited for the possibility of what this team can do this season. I'm sure they'll run into some rough patches, so I'm curious how they will respond.

Stanley Nickels
11-23-2011, 08:23 AM
I think you've got to give it to Haith-- a guy I admittedly was against-- for a number of reasons:
1. Transitioning Anderson's philosophies into his style and having the team buy into it,
2. Taking a team with high aspirations-- which could've been in a downward spiral from losing Anderson, then not getting Painter, then getting an underwhelming hire-- and creating an team atmosphere far more congealed than ever under Anderson.
3. Steve Moore. Having coaches believe in and encourage the kid has reaped tremendous results. His technical ability, court awareness, and even dexterity, are worlds better than last year.

It's still FAR too early to render any verdict, but I'd classify myself as somewhere above Haith critic, and just below Haith believer.

Saul Good
11-23-2011, 08:23 AM
In case anyone doesn't realize how good Moore was last night, here's a stat: Cal got 18 of the first 21 rebounds of the game.

English is playing great, but we're really going to struggle to rebound when he's playing the 4.

eazyb81
11-23-2011, 08:25 AM
GottliebShowDoug Gottlieb

@GottliebShow BREAKING: University of Missouri to investigate whether Mike Anderson stole paychecks during 2010-11 season” #sarcasm

kepp
11-23-2011, 08:26 AM
In case anyone doesn't realize how good Moore was last night, here's a stat: Cal got 18 of the first 21 rebounds of the game.

English is playing great, but we're really going to struggle to rebound when he's playing the 4.

We got lucky that a lot of their tip-backs didn't go in. If we allow better post players (i.e. Robinson) to do that, it'll be a different story. If Moore can step up like that when needed, it will be huge.

kchero
11-23-2011, 09:18 AM
GottliebShowDoug Gottlieb

@GottliebShow BREAKING: University of Missouri to investigate whether Mike Anderson stole paychecks during 2010-11 season” #sarcasm

ROFL

|Zach|
11-23-2011, 09:21 AM
The clowns that hated on English really need to STFU, or perhaps they already have.

I can't wait to see English go away.

gblowfish
11-23-2011, 09:53 AM
I saw Mizzou-Notre Dame, and watched the Cal game last night. Mizzou's guards are quick. Real quick. If Ratcliffe gets in foul trouble early, teams with better big men will give Mizzou a lot of trouble. Moore had a career game last night, but he's not going to be that good every night. English is hard to figure. Sometimes he's great, sometimes he can't hit his ass cheeks with either hand. Denmon is their best player. He's solid. I think watching Mizzou play KU and K-State will be big fun this year.

Saul Good
11-23-2011, 10:13 AM
I can't wait to see English go away.

WTF? He's the leader of this team.

|Zach|
11-23-2011, 10:17 AM
WTF? He's the leader of this team.

I look forward to the day when we don't have to see his mug around. Up and down play (up if we are lucky) unjustified arrogance and a passive aggressive attutude towards fans.

Saul Good
11-23-2011, 10:21 AM
Wow. I don't get that at all. He's easily my favorite off-the-court Tiger ever. He has a great sense of humor, is very intelligent, and seems to be a very likeable guy. Plus he works his ass off. He's the ultimate gym rat.

Pitt Gorilla
11-23-2011, 10:21 AM
**** off. That guy was an absolute piece of shit last year. He was easily one of the worst starters on any team in a BCS conference. When you play like a heartless, gutless pussy you will get bashed and rightfully so.

Perhaps you need to STFU, because sure as shit is brown I don't remember you coming to his defense last year.What does last year have to do with anything? English's play should have shut up his haters. Period.

|Zach|
11-23-2011, 10:23 AM
Wow. I don't get that at all. He's easily my favorite off-the-court Tiger ever. He has a great sense of humor, is very intelligent, and seems to be a very likeable guy. Plus he works his ass off. He's the ultimate gym rat.

Yes, I used to cling to his freshman year as well. This isn't a shot at you. It is the truth.

rageeumr
11-23-2011, 10:27 AM
I saw Mizzou-Notre Dame, and watched the Cal game last night. Mizzou's guards are quick. Real quick. If Ratcliffe gets in foul trouble early, teams with better big men will give Mizzou a lot of trouble. Moore had a career game last night, but he's not going to be that good every night. English is hard to figure. Sometimes he's great, sometimes he can't hit his ass cheeks with either hand. Denmon is their best player. He's solid. I think watching Mizzou play KU and K-State will be big fun this year.

Say it with me, Mizzou fans....there is no "c" in RATLIFFE

Pitt Gorilla
11-23-2011, 10:27 AM
I think you've got to give it to Haith-- a guy I admittedly was against-- for a number of reasons:
1. Transitioning Anderson's philosophies into his style and having the team buy into it,
2. Taking a team with high aspirations-- which could've been in a downward spiral from losing Anderson, then not getting Painter, then getting an underwhelming hire-- and creating an team atmosphere far more congealed than ever under Anderson.
3. Steve Moore. Having coaches believe in and encourage the kid has reaped tremendous results. His technical ability, court awareness, and even dexterity, are worlds better than last year.

It's still FAR too early to render any verdict, but I'd classify myself as somewhere above Haith critic, and just below Haith believer.Haith is doing it with a paper-thin bench and without his best player, IMO. Haith's staff is supposed to be good at working with bigs and I think the proof is in the pudding. MU will lose some games due to lack of depth, poor shooting, and being undersized across the board, but Haith's crew has already worked wonders.

rageeumr
11-23-2011, 10:30 AM
I look forward to the day when we don't have to see his mug around. Up and down play (up if we are lucky) unjustified arrogance and a passive aggressive attutude towards fans.

Dude took a LOT of heat from fans last year and seemed to still have a pretty positive attitude. I'm sure his Twitter DMs were a cornucopia of stupid. I'm ok with him as a person and I'm really excited to see him apparently turn his play around.

kchero
11-23-2011, 10:52 AM
Say it with me, Mizzou fans....there is no "c" in RATLIFFE

But there is a S in Daniel.:thumb:

Saul Good
11-23-2011, 10:53 AM
Yes, I used to cling to his freshman year as well. This isn't a shot at you. It is the truth.

He had one bad season, and it was when he tore a ligament in his shooting hand.

eazyb81
11-23-2011, 11:00 AM
He had one bad season, and it was when he tore a ligament in his shooting hand.

And the guy clearly seems to love Mizzou. He even came to Gameday last year with a sign.

I don't get the hate for him that some fans seem to have.

Saul Good
11-23-2011, 11:02 AM
But there is a S in Daniel.:thumb:

Gary Pinkle approves this message.

jettio
11-23-2011, 11:19 AM
I think suitcase mike's full court press is a terribly flawed style to rely on, but playing it for a few years helped our current players in transitioning to Haith's half-court style. We still play with intensity and look to run when we create a turnover, but we stay in front of our man better and don't give up the easy baskets that the press tends to allow.

We also look like we actually have an identity on offense which is helping to get the most out of our senior leadership. We run screens, make the extra pass (or 2 or 3), cut to the basket, play inside-out - coaching we haven't since Norm was here.

This.

I think having played for Anderson has some staying power when it comes to forcing turnovers.

Haith looks like he has installed an offense that it a big improvement over the last two years when The Mizzou half-court offense brought back unpleasant memories of standing around without much of a plan just like the Quin Snyder Jimmie McKinney era.

Fun game to watch and fun to listen to Dickie V commentating on a game when Mizzou is playing well.

gblowfish
11-23-2011, 11:35 AM
Say it with me, Mizzou fans....there is no "c" in RATLIFFE

You know, that's interesting. I didn't think there was either. Then this morning I was reading the Daily Californian about the game (Cal's newspaper) and read this:

http://www.dailycal.org/2011/11/23/mizzou-hands-bears-first-loss-in-39-point-romp/

"The first half also showed off the talents of senior Steve Moore. The 6-foot-7, 267-pound center scored a career-high 10 points in the first half before his hometown crowd, tossing in a three as two early fouls strapped starting forward Ricardo Ratcliffe to the bench."

So I figured that's how to spell the guy's name. I think you should call them and chew their asses.

Saul Good
11-27-2011, 03:04 PM
I look forward to the day when we don't have to see his mug around. Up and down play (up if we are lucky) unjustified arrogance and a passive aggressive attutude towards fans.

29 points for Kimmie on 15 shots today. He is the Big XII's leading scorer.

Priest31kc
11-27-2011, 03:07 PM
29 points for Kimmie on 15 shots today. He is the Big XII's leading scorer.

11/15 from the field, 7/10 from 3....He was on fire. So far this yr, English>Denmon, and that's saying alot because Denmon has been great too...

|Zach|
11-27-2011, 09:38 PM
29 points for Kimmie on 15 shots today. He is the Big XII's leading scorer.

He is really talented. I don't think he is a shitty player or anything I just think he has a shit attitude and at a time when we *really* need him he will be ghost. Just wait.

Sure-Oz
11-27-2011, 09:39 PM
He is really talented. I don't think he is a shitty player or anything I just think he has a shit attitude and at a time when we *really* need him he will be ghost. Just wait.

Don't say that on twitter he'll block you!

|Zach|
11-27-2011, 09:43 PM
Don't say that on twitter he'll block you!

No no. He will DM you and talk shit for message after message.