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Count Alex's Wins
12-14-2011, 12:55 AM
And that's why I think Clark is cowing Pioli now...

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/13/3318695/opportunity-clearly-exists-for.html

Clark Hunt is heated. He wonít say this, of course, not publicly. Admitting emotion or talking about feelings isnít his style.

But this is big, right now. The Chiefs are stumbling. His name is at the top of the company directory, his late fatherís legacy entwined in everything he does. These failings are dearly personal.

This is Clarkís team to operate, but in the big picture very much his father Lamarís franchise, and there is symbolism in the way people around the league usually refer to ďthe Hunt familyĒ instead of Clark.

General manager Scott Pioliís professional future rests with the man he hires to be the next head coach, but Hunt has something much more important involved, something much more precious:

His familyís name.

Hunt makes for an easy target, especially now, in no small part because heís decided not to respond to most criticism and because his team ó the one thing Kansas City cares about collectively more than perhaps anything else ó is losing.

Winning heals most wounds, but at the moment there is a disconnect between fan and franchise that is alarming on a few levels. For the Chiefsí success and business interests, sure, but also for the man who in many ways was bred and raised to take over the franchise his father founded.

The criticisms of Hunt are not all fair, particularly the ones about him being the leagueís chintziest owner. The Chiefs committed about $100 million in guaranteed money in the last 12 months. The remaining cap space is more a product of the teamís youth and Pioliís vision than Huntís demands.

Besides, the link between spending and winning in the NFL is flimsy at best.

Heís actually been, despite the current view, most of what an owner should be. Three years ago, he hired the industryís top GM candidate and trusted that manís judgment to run the team without much interference. There is no evidence to suggest Hunt has held Pioli back.

At least from that perspective, Hunt is so far wearing rotten results born of sound decisions.

But right now, today, none of that matters as much as the fact Hunt isnít much liked by the fans who support his team.

Huntís leadership is different from his fatherís. He is more ruthless than patient, more focused on results than effort, more guarded than gregarious. But his polish masks a passion for winning that best comes out in private or one-on-one conversations.

All of which means that Hunt ó an accomplished man outside the benefits of his last name ó is losing at the one thing he most wants to win.

In the three years since firing Carl Peterson and beginning to shape the Chiefs in his own image, Hunt has been something like a personification of the franchise: young, aggressive and eager to prove worthiness.

Hunt is fiercely private and by nature quiet. Even in his business dealings, he tends to speak rarely. An NFL lawyer once told The Star that Hunt has ďa listen-to-talk ratio of probably 10 to 1.Ē

In that way, the Chiefsí well-known secretive nature is as much a product of Huntís desires as Pioliís, so the ownerís motivations and goals are hard to define beyond the very broad.

But hereís what we know: The things that got the Chiefs to this point clearly havenít worked, so if Hunt is as smart and caring as he is said to be, then the franchiseís operating procedures are about to change.

The details of that are hazy, by design. But even if Hunt is trusting and empowering the people he hires, the logical move would be for him to exert more influence in personnel matters, especially with the new head coach.

This is a difficult thing to navigate. Pioli knows more football than Hunt, of course, and in any job a micromanaging boss makes for an unproductive environment. But Hunt has already shown that itís in his nature to insert himself in certain ways that his father never would have, so he should be comfortable providing more guidance than perhaps heís done in the past.

This is hindsight, but someone who intimately knew the world views of Pioli and Haley could have predicted conflicts.

Hunt should and will ultimately bow to Pioliís football acumen as long as heís still the GM, but Hunt can also provide more of a 30,000-foot view to help. That couldíve been helpful three years ago, for instance.

In Huntís championship dreams, when the Chiefs are so good he is lifting the trophy with his fatherís name on it, Pioli is the teamís brains and the head coach its voice.

But maybe something is still missing. Maybe Hunt needs to be the teamís heart. Now would be a good time to show more of it.

ChiefBlitz
12-14-2011, 01:20 AM
you post some of the biggest bullshit i've ever heard of

Shogun
12-14-2011, 01:24 AM
you post some of the biggest bullshit i've ever heard of

Did you sign up just to tell him this?

If so, Lol.

ChiefBlitz
12-14-2011, 01:27 AM
Did you sign up just to tell him this?

If so, Lol.

:clap:

Guru
12-14-2011, 01:28 AM
you post some of the biggest bullshit i've ever heard of

He posted an article from the Star. Take it up with the editor if you don't like it.

Phobia
12-14-2011, 01:29 AM
Did you sign up just to tell him this?

If so, Lol.

No. He's a racist mult who won't stay banned.

pr_capone
12-14-2011, 01:33 AM
I would love to see Cuban level involvement with the Chiefs. Right now this club has no face to put to it. Clark could be it.

I want this:

http://realpoints.dmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/CubanCover1.jpg

to say 2012 - Clark Hunt

/I don't think he will wink tho

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2011, 01:39 AM
Cuban's overrated. I would rather him be like the Rooney's or Jerry Buss.

Count Alex's Wins
12-14-2011, 01:43 AM
Cuban's overrated. I would rather him be like the Rooney's or Jerry Buss.

Almost every player who has signed a contract with the Mavericks loves Mark Cuban.

He took a dead franchise and turned it into an awesome franchise, pissed off the league and still won a championship.

Unfortunately Cuban blows money left and right and I don't think Clark will ever do that.

pr_capone
12-14-2011, 01:44 AM
Cuban's overrated. I would rather him be like the Rooney's or Jerry Buss.

In the 20 years before Cuban bought the team, the Mavs had a winning percentage of 40%, and playoff record of 21Ė32.[51][52] In the ten years following, the team won 69% of their regular season games and reached the playoffs in each of those seasons. The Mavs playoff record with Cuban is 49 wins and 57 losses, including their first trip to the NBA Finals in 2006, where they lost to the Miami Heat.[53] On June 12, 2011, the Dallas Mavericks defeated the Miami Heat to win the NBA Finals.

Yeah... dude sucks.

RippedmyFlesh
12-14-2011, 01:46 AM
Clark's problem is he has to listen to coaches and create an environment where someone could question a Pioli decision.
I believe Haley wanted to draft a qb and didn't want capt checkdown .When you first start is the only time you can justify a bad record that is when you get your young qb.
Everyone does that it seems when starting over except us.We should have blown away Det with an offer to get the first pick.I actually dreamed of that happening because it wasn't Carl who would never draft a qb.
What Clark better learn is he should use his 10-1 listening ratio on his head coach who should know football better than anyone he employs. He seemed to listen to herm but not haley. Bad choice there.

jd1020
12-14-2011, 01:46 AM
I wish Cuban was given a fair opportunity to buy the Cubs.

I would kill for an owner with his passion to win.

I would say I'd like for the Hunt family to sell the Chiefs and him make a bid, but then he'd probably move the team and I'd have to switch to a more local team like the Rams, ugh.....

JCharles1981
12-14-2011, 01:49 AM
Hey tards, this thread is about Clark Hunt, not some loser coach in the NBA.

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2011, 01:50 AM
Yeah... dude sucks.

Never said he sucked, I just said he was overrated. Like I said I would rather have Rooney type ownership.

jd1020
12-14-2011, 01:51 AM
Never said he sucked, I just said he was overrated. Like I said I would rather have Rooney type ownership.

What makes Rooney better?

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2011, 01:51 AM
Hey tards, this thread is about Clark Hunt, not some loser coach in the NBA.

Cuban isn't a coach you tard.

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2011, 01:54 AM
What makes Rooney better?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/3779556054_6958e82e65.jpg

Steelers have been a model franchise for 40 years now. They hire the right people and the franchise is normally a winner/year in and year out. Cuban has done alot for the Mavericks but him acting like a fan doesn't impress me. Its nice to have a will to win, but it also looks douchebag attention whoreish.

jd1020
12-14-2011, 01:58 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/3779556054_6958e82e65.jpg

Steelers have been a model franchise for 40 years now. They hire the right people and the franchise is normally a winner/year in and year out. Cuban has done alot for the Mavericks but him acting like a fan doesn't impress me. Its nice to have a will to win, but it also looks douchebag attention whoreish.

The Mavericks match everything you like about the Steelers. The only difference is that Cuban hasn't been around as long. And Cuban didn't say a fucking word last year.

JCharles1981
12-14-2011, 02:00 AM
Cuban isn't a coach you tard.

Allow me to change it up then. This thread is about Clark Hunt, not some NBA owner whom took 20 years to get the Dallas Mavericks into the Finals.

RippedmyFlesh
12-14-2011, 02:01 AM
I agree about the Steelers but it would be a fun bender to have an owner with boatloads of cash to spend even though people always say spending doesn't equal winning. But not spending sure as hell doesn't win.

jd1020
12-14-2011, 02:01 AM
Allow me to change it up then. This thread is about Clark Hunt, not some NBA owner whom took 20 years to get the Dallas Mavericks into the Finals.

He's only been the owner since 2000, dumbass. They went to the Finals for the first time in 2006.

JCharles1981
12-14-2011, 02:09 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/3779556054_6958e82e65.jpg

Steelers have been a model franchise for 40 years now. They hire the right people and the franchise is normally a winner/year in and year out. Cuban has done alot for the Mavericks but him acting like a fan doesn't impress me. Its nice to have a will to win, but it also looks douchebag attention whoreish.

No they haven't. What most Steelers fans won't admit to is the fact that the 4 Superbowl titles they won with Terry Bradshaw in the 1970's were primarily due to the majority of the team being bulked up on steroids. The Steelers' SB win against the Seahawks in SB XL was anything but a fair game. The refs called offensive pass interference on a Seahawks receiver that was using a defender as a stopping block so he could shift direction to catch the ball thrown by Hasselback. If that wasn't unfair enough, they gave a free TD to Ben Rothlisberger, whom was clearly an inch short of breaking the goal line with the ball when his entire body hit the ground after colliding with a defender. He did the exact same thing in Superbowl XLIII by coming an inch short of the ball breaking the plane when his entire body touched the ground, and the team had to settle for a field goal.

Want more proof that the Steelers don't play fair, but still get away with it? In the Superbowl XLIII, Kurt Warner threw an interception while deep in Steelers territory, resulting in a return for a TD. The effort the defensive guy did to make the TD was impressive, but he got help from a defender that illegally shoved a Cardinals receiver in the back so that he could hop over him and run the final 10-20 yards. FYI, a block in the back has not been legal in the NFL for more than a decade. One final thing, Ben Rothlisberger was sacked at least 4 times by the Chiefs defense a few weeks ago, proving that he is not indestructible on passing plays.

The only modeling going on for the Steelers is a few players posing for GQ Magazine. If you ask me, I think the refs were paid to call Superbowl XL in the Steelers' favor. As for Superbowl XLIII, the first half ending TD should have been called back. Six SB championships mean nothing if most or all of them weren't won fairly.

The real model NFL franchises are the Dallas Cowboys and the San Francisco 49ers. The Cowboys have 7 Superbowl championships, while the 49ers have won 5 and remain the only team in NFL history to have won at least 5 Superbowl championships, as well as won the SB each time they've made an appearance. Both the Cowboys and Steelers though each have at least 1 Superbowl loss. Plus, neither the Cowboys nor the 49ers have won any Superbowls as a result of drug doping.

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2011, 02:12 AM
The Mavericks match everything you like about the Steelers. The only difference is that Cuban hasn't been around as long. And Cuban didn't say a ****ing word last year.

I agree with that. He was really classy winning the title last year. Still he has the Al Davis stigma attached to him. Davis was a damn good owner as well, but when you think Raiders - Al Davis pops up, not the great teams or players. Same with the Mavericks. Dirk isn't the first thing, its normally Cuban. Management style and how I am personally is, I want the team or business to be known for excellence and how well they are and me be an after thought.

JCharles1981
12-14-2011, 02:15 AM
He's only been the owner since 2000, dumbass. They went to the Finals for the first time in 2006.

All the more reason why going on a tangent about Cuban was unnecessary. This is a football forum, so why the crap are remarks being made about managers or owners that are associated with the NBA, and not the NFL?

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2011, 02:21 AM
No they haven't. What most Steelers fans won't admit to is the fact that the 4 Superbowl titles they won with Terry Bradshaw in the 1970's were primarily due to the majority of the team being bulked up on steroids. The Steelers' SB win against the Seahawks in SB XL was anything but a fair game. The refs called offensive pass interference on a Seahawks receiver that was using a defender as a stopping block so he could shift direction to catch the ball thrown by Hasselback. If that wasn't unfair enough, they gave a free TD to Ben Rothlisberger, whom was clearly an inch short of breaking the goal line with the ball when his entire body hit the ground after colliding with a defender. He did the exact same thing in Superbowl XLIII by coming an inch short of the ball breaking the plane when his entire body touched the ground, and the team had to settle for a field goal.

Want more proof that the Steelers don't play fair, but still get away with it? In the Superbowl XLIII, Kurt Warner threw an interception while deep in Steelers territory, resulting in a return for a TD. The effort the defensive guy did to make the TD was impressive, but he got help from a defender that illegally shoved a Cardinals receiver in the back so that he could hop over him and run the final 10-20 yards. FYI, a block in the back has not been legal in the NFL for more than a decade. One final thing, Ben Rothlisberger was sacked at least 4 times by the Chiefs defense a few weeks ago, proving that he is not indestructible on passing plays.

The only modeling going on for the Steelers is a few players posing for GQ Magazine. If you ask me, I think the refs were paid to call Superbowl XL in the Steelers' favor. As for Superbowl XLIII, the first half ending TD should have been called back. Six SB championships mean nothing if most or all of them weren't won fairly.

All the more reason why going on a tangent about Cuban was unnecessary. This is a football forum, so why the crap are remarks being made about managers or owners that are associated with the NBA, and not the NFL?

You are a fucking idiot.

JCharles1981
12-14-2011, 02:24 AM
You are a ****ing idiot.

You don't have to take my word for it. But, research it yourself before making yourself sound like an idiot by claiming it to be false.

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2011, 02:25 AM
You don't have to take my word for it. But, research it yourself before making yourself an idiot by claiming it to be false.

No pretty much all of your posts on this board have proven that you are an idiot.

WhiteWhale
12-14-2011, 02:26 AM
You don't have to take my word for it. But, research it yourself before making yourself sound like an idiot by claiming it to be false.

Everyone on the NFL was on steroids in the 70's... and most of the early 80's as well. They probably still are.

So that's kinda meaningless.

Also, when you push a defender to create separation, that's offensive PI. It was obvious. I can't believe people argue this call just because they ignore offensive PI 90% of the time.

JCharles1981
12-14-2011, 02:30 AM
No pretty much all of your posts on this board have proven that you are an idiot.

And how many posts of mine have you read? You must be a noob to assume all of my posts so far are BS. I think your assumption is just an excuse to be a jackass. Thus, shows how stupid you are for refusing to refute my claims by NOT doing the research.

pr_capone
12-14-2011, 02:44 AM
Allow me to change it up then. This thread is about Clark Hunt, not some NBA owner whom took 20 years to get the Dallas Mavericks into the Finals.

/repost

Agent V
12-14-2011, 02:50 AM
I like how he misuses "thus" and "whom" in a failed attempt to appear intelligent.

FAX
12-14-2011, 02:59 AM
Clark needs to reveal his secret identity and wear his friggin' Superhunt costume to games.

Also, Clark needs to give Dr. Scary a noogie. Problem is, Dr. Scary has no hair. Dr. Scary isn't very hairy ... uh ... air he ... ??

Okay ... how about a wedgie? Surely, Dr. Scary has a crack.

FAX

FAX
12-14-2011, 03:02 AM
I have to admit, the NFL is looking a whole lot more like professional wrassling every day.

FAX

JCharles1981
12-14-2011, 03:46 AM
I have to admit, the NFL is looking a whole lot more like professional wrassling every day.

FAX

DO NOT BRING BACK THE XFL!

Guru
12-14-2011, 03:54 AM
DO NOT BRING BACK THE XFL!

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BossChief
12-14-2011, 04:17 AM
haha

I have 2 friends that played for the XFL and let me tell you this...Vince McMahan is a fucking crook.

|Zach|
12-14-2011, 05:21 AM
<iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rPiyXH43MXU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Dexter Manley
12-14-2011, 05:30 AM
"Hands on..."

Sounds a little too Sandusky...

PRIEST
12-14-2011, 07:22 AM
I have to admit, the NFL is looking a whole lot more like professional wrassling every day.

FAX

This also the artical belongs on a porn set pure fluff. show me.

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 07:26 AM
If Hunt knew a little more about football and had some friends around the league that he talked with....how many of them would tell him to stay the course with Matt Cassel?

You don't want a micro-managing owner, but too bad Hunt can't veto Cassel.

Dexter Manley
12-14-2011, 07:27 AM
haha

I have 2 friends that played for the XFL and let me tell you this...Vince McMahan is a ****ing crook.


Goldberg would make a great head coach, and certainly wouldn't "back down" talking to Clark and Scott...

Marcellus
12-14-2011, 07:28 AM
I agree about the Steelers but it would be a fun bender to have an owner with boatloads of cash to spend even though people always say spending doesn't equal winning. But not spending sure as hell doesn't win.

This isn't baseball where there are teams paying out $30MM and teams paying out $200MM in payroll.

There is zero correlation between spending and winning in the NFL.

Deberg_1990
12-14-2011, 07:41 AM
Sometimes having a "Hands on" owner isnt a good thing.

Jerry Jones- Usually surrounds himself with yes men....his team has been mediorce for 16 years.

Dan Snyder- His team has always been a "never was" since hes been owner. Loves to spend money just to spend money.

Bane
12-14-2011, 07:52 AM
Saying "he's overrated" is like saying water is wet.




Dip shit.

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 07:55 AM
Actually, in one sense Clark Hunt is a completely incompetent owner. It's become clear that the rift between Pioli and Haley was worse than even the rumors indicated, yet Hunt did not step in and either fire Haley or warn Pioli that his job was in jeopardy if the leaks and undermining didn't stop. That is all on Hunt being an absentee owner, or just as bad, siding with Pioli an attempting to force Haley out by character assassination rather than having the guts to fire him. The ongoing rift between Pioli and Haley is very damaging to the credibility of Clark Hunt.

dirk digler
12-14-2011, 08:11 AM
Finally people are coming around. It all starts at the top and we have had inept ownership for a very long time.

Clark doesn't have to meddle but what he has to do is set the vision for this organization and tell Pioli we are going to draft the best 1st round QB this year that we can and build around him and give him all the support money can buy.

alanm
12-14-2011, 08:15 AM
I agree about the Steelers but it would be a fun bender to have an owner with boatloads of cash to spend even though people always say spending doesn't equal winning. But not spending sure as hell doesn't win.It hasn't worked out very well for the Redskins.

J Diddy
12-14-2011, 08:16 AM
Finally people are coming around. It all starts at the top and we have had inept ownership for a very long time.

Clark doesn't have to meddle but what he has to do is set the vision for this organization and tell Pioli we are going to draft the best 1st round QB this year that we can and build around him and give him all the support money can buy.

You do realize that his vision might not be yours, right? What if he thinks Stanzi is that guy?

dirk digler
12-14-2011, 08:27 AM
You do realize that his vision might not be yours, right? What if he thinks Stanzi is that guy?

I was just using that as an example. For all we know he loves Cassel

htismaqe
12-14-2011, 08:31 AM
It hasn't worked out very well for the Redskins.

That's not a valid argument.

SOMETIMES spending money like water doesn't work. Sometimes however, it does.

But of the examples in modern pro football of teams not spending enough, they've ALL failed.

Count Alex's Wins
12-14-2011, 08:37 AM
That's not a valid argument.

SOMETIMES spending money like water doesn't work. Sometimes however, it does.

But of the examples in modern pro football of teams not spending enough, they've ALL failed.

How much is enough?

The Colts don't spend shit.

The Chiefs have done a good job of resigning their own players and to me that is what matters.

the Talking Can
12-14-2011, 08:43 AM
Opportunity exists for Hunt to do nothing and still make millions

is the correct title

DTLB58
12-14-2011, 08:54 AM
I think this is a great article, mainly because I've been
Thinking along the same line all week. It's time for Clark
To take more control of this team. If he isn't willing to do that
Then maybe it's just time for a new Owner in Kansas City.

HemiEd
12-14-2011, 09:18 AM
For the Chiefs’ success and business interests, sure, but also for the man who in many ways was bred and raised to take over the franchise his father founded.
So Lamar picked out his breeding partner just to breed a kid to run the Chiefs?

That is kind of sickly over dramatic.

MTG#10
12-14-2011, 09:19 AM
This is pure bullshit, if Clark cared so much about this franchise and winning we wouldn't be 30+ million under the cap.

notorious
12-14-2011, 09:20 AM
Clark Hunt reads Chiefs Planet?


WE ARE GOING TO WIN ELEVENTYBILLION SB'S IF HE READS THE DRAFT FORUM!!!$$$

notorious
12-14-2011, 09:20 AM
This is pure bullshit, if Clark cared so much about this franchise and winning we wouldn't be 30+ million under the cap.

Who, What, Where would he spend 30 million on?

MTG#10
12-14-2011, 09:23 AM
Who, What, Where would he spend 30 million on?

Nobody now, but he's had the opportunity to sign numerous free agents that could have helped this team a lot the last couple years and passed. I dont want him to be like Dan Snyder but going into every season with virtually no (decent) depth is becoming tiresome.

htismaqe
12-14-2011, 09:26 AM
Who, What, Where would he spend 30 million on?

He could start by signing Bowe and Carr immediately.

notorious
12-14-2011, 09:27 AM
He could start by signing Bowe and Carr immediately.

I agree.


Last year I didn't see a ton of pieces that we could have added that would have been worth the cap space in the future.

If we would have signed a lot of those guys last off-season, Carr and Bowe would probably be un-afforadable.

Dexter Manley
12-14-2011, 09:28 AM
Someone needs to start a CP poll

Do you support getting Clark MORE INVOLVED with running the Chiefs, or LESS?

htismaqe
12-14-2011, 09:30 AM
I agree.


Last year I didn't see a ton of pieces that we could have added that would have been worth the cap space in the future.

If we would have signed a lot of those guys last off-season, Carr and Bowe would probably be un-afforadable.

Therein lies the problem.

Signing our own guys requires CASH, not cap space. Those bonuses come straight from Clark's wallet.

There's ALWAYS ways to structure things if you're willing to spend your own money. Clark just isn't.

notorious
12-14-2011, 09:33 AM
Therein lies the problem.

Signing our own guys requires CASH, not cap space. Those bonuses come straight from Clark's wallet.

There's ALWAYS ways to structure things if you're willing to spend your own money. Clark just isn't.

That's one part of the system I don't understand fully.

Brock
12-14-2011, 09:33 AM
But right now, today, none of that matters as much as the fact Hunt isnít much liked by the fans who support his team.

Huntís leadership is different from his fatherís. He is more ruthless than patient, more focused on results than effort, more guarded than gregarious. But his polish masks a passion for winning that best comes out in private or one-on-one conversations.

All of which means that Hunt ó an accomplished man outside the benefits of his last name ó is losing at the one thing he most wants to win.

In the three years since firing Carl Peterson and beginning to shape the Chiefs in his own image, Hunt has been something like a personification of the franchise: young, aggressive and eager to prove worthiness.


Uh.....wut?

Chiefnj2
12-14-2011, 09:36 AM
Clark doesn't have any real option but to give Pioli one more crack at it. You can't go changing GM's and completely burn everything to the ground in 3 years.

If Pioli is dumb enough to think Cassel is a solution then we will likely see a GM change in 2 years. Pioli knows he is the one under the microscope. He knows it's a QB driven league and the team has absolutely no depth whatsoever.

All you can do is cross your fingers until draft day.

HemiEd
12-14-2011, 09:38 AM
Therein lies the problem.

Signing our own guys requires CASH, not cap space. Those bonuses come straight from Clark's wallet.

There's ALWAYS ways to structure things if you're willing to spend your own money. Clark just isn't.

That makes a lot of sense. How soon does he get the stadium renovations paid off?

Is he paying them off with cap space, or in other words shorting the payroll to cover the renovations expense?

DaKCMan AP
12-14-2011, 09:40 AM
Clark needs to hang out more with DaKCMan AP.

O.city
12-14-2011, 09:45 AM
This whole barrage of actions might be the best thing to happen to the Chiefs.

The ACL injuries forced this season to be all about Matt Cassel. He failed then got hurt further exposing the weakness of qb on the team.

htismaqe
12-14-2011, 09:45 AM
Clark needs to hang out more with DaKCMan AP.

Maybe some of your awesomeness would rub off.

Count Alex's Wins
12-14-2011, 09:46 AM
Clark just isn't.

Explains all the players we've been extending!

DaKCMan AP
12-14-2011, 09:46 AM
Maybe some of your awesomeness would rub off.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HlERGgXXg1c/Sp3PQgixHCI/AAAAAAAAATg/jk-TTOPhIUg/s400/wearhouse.jpg

KC-TBB
12-14-2011, 09:47 AM
Ohhhh Nutz...i jus' wanna winner not a whinner!

htismaqe
12-14-2011, 09:49 AM
Explains all the players we've been extending!

Note the numbers, timing, and players involved.

Flowers isn't as important as Carr, that's well known in NFL circles. Where is Bowe's contract?

Outside of that, who have they thrown money at? Hali? That's a no-brainer.

Count Alex's Wins
12-14-2011, 09:54 AM
We extended:

Flowers
Hali
Johnson
Charles

Logic suggests we will extend Bowe and Carr.

Chiefnj2
12-14-2011, 09:55 AM
Where is Bowe's contract?



Apparently hampered by Haley.

O.city
12-14-2011, 09:57 AM
If we go after RGIII or Barkley or hell even Luck in the first round, thats on Hunt. I'd be extremely happy to see him become more involved like the Rooney's or the Krafts.

htismaqe
12-14-2011, 09:59 AM
We extended:

Flowers
Hali
Johnson
Charles

Logic suggests we will extend Bowe and Carr.

Get it done then.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-14-2011, 10:09 AM
Chris Mortensen said Clark has put a lot of pressure on Pioli to get this coaching hire right. Believe it or not, Clark is not like his dad. If Pioli swings and misses again he's gone.

Sofa King
12-14-2011, 11:10 AM
Clark needs to hang out more with DaKCMan AP.

Clark Hunt has his own wax statue?

O.city
12-14-2011, 11:12 AM
Chris Mortensen said Clark has put a lot of pressure on Pioli to get this coaching hire right. Believe it or not, Clark is not like his dad. If Pioli swings and misses again he's gone.

Good.

As how it should be if Clark is serious about winning. If it were me I'd go to Scott and say "You have 4 years to take this franchise to a SB, and that starts with this coaching hire and this years draft"/

DaKCMan AP
12-14-2011, 11:18 AM
Clark Hunt has his own wax statue?

I don't know, I'll ask him the next time we hang out.

dallaschiefsfan
12-14-2011, 01:54 PM
Winning heals most wounds, but at the moment there is a disconnect between fan and franchise that is alarming on a few levels.

The above is true. With an absent owner, the franchise needs a local face that handles this. Like him or not, Carl Peterson played this role to a T. In the 90's he was loved. Then he was reviled and things went sour.

We need someone that is NOT the coach to be the face of the franchise if Pioli is going to hide out and Clark is going to be in Dallas. I would rather this NOT be on the football/personnel side of the building. The team President needs to be the owner's avatar. I vote Marty. Keep him the hell away from any part in the actual team decision-making...but empower him to whip the fanbase into a frenzy. He was always good at that. And he hates the Raiders.

pr_capone
12-14-2011, 02:02 PM
The above is true. With an absent owner, the franchise needs a local face that handles this. Like him or not, Carl Peterson played this role to a T. In the 90's he was loved. Then he was reviled and things went sour.



This. So very this. This team has no identity and no face to the franchise. I would love for Clark to step up and become a more visible owner.

The Chiefs are in danger of becoming the old Bucs or Lions. Perennial losers with a dwindling fanbase.

the Talking Can
12-14-2011, 02:04 PM
Chris Mortensen said Clark has put a lot of pressure on Pioli to get this coaching hire right. Believe it or not, Clark is not like his dad. If Pioli swings and misses again he's gone.

i hope this is true

whoman69
12-14-2011, 03:10 PM
I don't buy the argument that Pioli was saving cap space because this team is young. You have $30 in space which Bowe and Carr will not eat up. $100 million in guarentees over how many years? The Chiefs also did not take care of depth on the lines, at QB or in the secondary besides CB. Getting that depth would not have been much of a money investment.

I think the Hunts have been too diversified to be involved with the team. Frankly I think they're bigger soccer fans. Lamar had this franchise on cruise control the last 30 years and Clark has watched how he did it.

FAX
12-14-2011, 03:32 PM
The above is true. With an absent owner, the franchise needs a local face that handles this. Like him or not, Carl Peterson played this role to a T. In the 90's he was loved. Then he was reviled and things went sour.

We need someone that is NOT the coach to be the face of the franchise if Pioli is going to hide out and Clark is going to be in Dallas. I would rather this NOT be on the football/personnel side of the building. The team President needs to be the owner's avatar. I vote Marty. Keep him the hell away from any part in the actual team decision-making...but empower him to whip the fanbase into a frenzy. He was always good at that. And he hates the Raiders.

Marty as GM?

I wonder how that would work out.

FAX

Guru
12-14-2011, 04:18 PM
Clark needs to hang out more with DaKCMan AP.

Damn you are short.LMAO

FAX
12-14-2011, 04:25 PM
Chris Mortensen said Clark has put a lot of pressure on Pioli to get this coaching hire right. Believe it or not, Clark is not like his dad. If Pioli swings and misses again he's gone.

There was a semi-amusing moment in the press conference when Clark said (words to the effect of), "... I can assure you that Scott works very hard, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, but I expect him to re-double his efforts going forward ..."

Then, you could see Dr. Evil spit up a little in his mouth.

FAX

Guru
12-14-2011, 04:33 PM
There was a semi-amusing moment in the press conference when Clark said (words to the effect of), "... I can assure you that Scott works very hard, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, but I expect him to re-double his efforts going forward ..."

Then, you could see Dr. Evil spit up a little in his mouth.

FAX

Hmm, I don't remember that moment. Guess I'll have to go back and watch it. May GC can gif it.

FAX
12-14-2011, 04:36 PM
Hmm, I don't remember that moment. Guess I'll have to go back and watch it. May GC can gif it.

It was kind of near the end, Mr. Guru.

And, I did paraphrase ... but that was pretty close. It was funny to see Dr. Evil being nominated to work twice as hard in front of the media, though.

FAX

dallaschiefsfan
12-14-2011, 05:53 PM
Marty as GM?

I wonder how that would work out.

FAX

NO!!!!! Absolutely NOT. That wasn't what I said. Let him be the team President and be Clark's avatar to the community. Let him talk about how the Raiders are evil incarnate and generally whip the fanbase into a frenzy over the Chiefs.

Absolutely do NOT let him anywhere near anything related to player personnel decisions. Re-read what I said mr. fax

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 06:13 PM
It was kind of near the end, Mr. Guru.

And, I did paraphrase ... but that was pretty close. It was funny to see Dr. Evil being nominated to work twice as hard in front of the media, though.

FAX

The camera isn't on Scott's face...

O.city
12-14-2011, 06:14 PM
Maybe Clark demanded Cassels head on a platter.

FAX
12-14-2011, 06:23 PM
The camera isn't on Scott's face...

Is so.

FAX

HemiEd
12-14-2011, 06:41 PM
It was kind of near the end, Mr. Guru.

And, I did paraphrase ... but that was pretty close. It was funny to see Dr. Evil being nominated to work twice as hard in front of the media, though.

FAX
On the Chiefs website edited version, they are careful to only show Scott or Clark individually, but not both at the same time.

FAX
12-14-2011, 06:49 PM
On the Chiefs website edited version, they are careful to only show Scott or Clark individually, but not both at the same time.

Hmmmm.

I could have sworn I saw a reaction to that comment. I lack the time to search for it, though, so I shall take your good and dependable word for it, Mr. HemiEd, while offering my most sincere and authentic apologies to the entire Planet community for behaving like an infantile, winged radish when the chips were down.

FAX

Chiefs Pantalones
12-14-2011, 07:09 PM
Bill Williamson has been saying the same thing. Pioli's next coach better be a homerun.

Count Alex's Wins
12-14-2011, 07:39 PM
According to Jim Trotter of SI, who was on Nick Wright, the Chiefs are working on a contract with Bowe.

O.city
12-14-2011, 08:30 PM
Thats good news. Lock up Bowe, franchise Carr, draft RGIII.

Superbowl.