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Chocolate Hog
12-14-2011, 11:00 AM
nick wright @getnickwright
Also, I've got some GREAT news for #Chiefs fans on the coaching search... and some disheartening news. Gotta save that for 2pm, though.



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ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2011, 11:01 AM
He has been right all year.

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 11:02 AM
They are looking at someone big and we're sticking with Cassel.

Mr_Tomahawk
12-14-2011, 11:02 AM
He doesn't have sh!t.

Cave Johnson
12-14-2011, 11:02 AM
McD as OC, not HC?

More like terrible news and slightly less terrible news.

O.city
12-14-2011, 11:03 AM
It's gonna be Bill Snyder.

Detoxing
12-14-2011, 11:06 AM
Looking at the tree......There is no one i'd want. With that said....I'm sure the disheartening news is that we're keeping Cassel.

Mr_Tomahawk
12-14-2011, 11:06 AM
His mom is letting him borrow the car and drive to the theaters all by himself.

Cassel signed an extension.

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 11:08 AM
They are looking at someone big and we're sticking with Cassel.

Seriously, aren't these two outcomes mutually exclusive? What big name coach is coming here if his hands are tied regarding Cassel?

KCtotheSB
12-14-2011, 11:09 AM
GOOD NEWS: Nick Wright finally got laid.
BAD NEWS: Mom didn't talk much at breakfast this morning.

Okie_Apparition
12-14-2011, 11:11 AM
It's goin to take the shoulder length rubber gloves to pull this shit outa his ass

Gonzo
12-14-2011, 11:15 AM
GOOD NEWS: Nick Wright finally got laid.
BAD NEWS: Mom didn't talk much at breakfast this morning.

LMAO

She never does...

Dragonocho
12-14-2011, 11:17 AM
Best coach available is Haley.

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 11:17 AM
Probably something like sources say McDaniels will not be a candidate, but neither will names like Cowher or Fisher...

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 11:17 AM
Seriously, aren't these two outcomes mutually exclusive? What big name coach is coming here if his hands are tied regarding Cassel?

I don't think any big name coach will come here as long as Pioli and Cassel are here. Here's hoping they get Fisher or Cower or whoever just so Pioli and Cassel can go

(I don't really want either one of those coaches but if it means losing Pioli and Cassel then I'm all for it)

-King-
12-14-2011, 11:19 AM
I don't think any big name coach will come here as long as Pioli and Cassel are here. Here's hoping they get Fisher or Cower or whoever just so Pioli and Cassel can go

(I don't really want either one of those coaches but if it means losing Pioli and Cassel then I'm all for it)

I'd rather have Pioli than either one of those.
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KCrockaholic
12-14-2011, 11:21 AM
Ill guess its something about a solid HC possibilty but we wouldn't be able to keep Crennel. IDK.

Bane
12-14-2011, 11:22 AM
They'll probably lure in some dumbass out of college @ 5-6 mil per year,start Cassel and we'll win 8 games over the next 3 years and clean house again.

nychief
12-14-2011, 11:23 AM
Cassel will start next season as our starter, regardless of if we draft a QB early... then hopefully, he is moved out.

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 11:24 AM
I'd rather have Pioli than either one of those.
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Unless he seriously changes his ways and lets the coach pick his assistants and QB, Pioli can get the fuck out.

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 11:25 AM
They'll probably lure in some dumbass out of college @ 5-6 mil per year,start Cassel and we'll win 8 games over the next 3 years and clean house again.

I don't think Clark will want to go the unproven NFL coach route again. I have a feeling Clark will have more say in this one than the last.

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 11:27 AM
Prediction: Marty Schottenheimer 2: Electric Boogaloo

KC Tattoo
12-14-2011, 11:27 AM
Best coach available is Haley.

In the press that's exactly the kind of coach they are looking for. fucking bizzar.

Bane
12-14-2011, 11:27 AM
I don't think Clark will want to go the unproven NFL coach route again. I have a feeling Clark will have more say in this one than the last.

Does Clark even care at this point?

The Bad Guy
12-14-2011, 11:28 AM
He has been right all year.

No, he hasn't. He hit on Baldwin, but what else?

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 11:29 AM
Does Clark even care at this point?

I really really fucking really hope so.

milkman
12-14-2011, 11:29 AM
The great news, they already have a list of candidates.

The disheartening news, the list only includes two names.

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 11:30 AM
No, he hasn't. He hit on Baldwin, but what else?

He was talking about Haley getting fired months ago.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 11:30 AM
Marty has already said no. They are talking to Fisher's agent tomorrow.

Bane
12-14-2011, 11:30 AM
I really really ****ing really hope so.

Yeah me too.Maybe they'll shock the shit out of all of us:banghead:

Bane
12-14-2011, 11:31 AM
Marty has already said no. They are talking to Fisher's agent tomorrow.

Are you pro Fisher?

Detoxing
12-14-2011, 11:33 AM
Marty has already said no. They are talking to Fisher's agent tomorrow.

This is what Wright Said?

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 11:33 AM
The great news, they already have a list of candidates.

The disheartening news, the list only includes two names.

I think the list is 50% bigger than that:

McDaniels
Crennel
Ferentz

I'm certainly hoping for option 3 given that he won't come here if he's locked to Cassel. The others would.

htismaqe
12-14-2011, 11:34 AM
He was talking about Haley getting fired months ago.

So was the rest of the English-speaking world...

O.city
12-14-2011, 11:35 AM
I think you guys can throw McDaniels out. There is no way they bring in a failure after the previous failure.

They gotta bring someone in to reel the fans back in as well as win football games.

O.city
12-14-2011, 11:35 AM
Houston looks to be a good pick, Breaston was a nice pickup...

But yeah, Pioli can kiss my ass. My hope in him is hanging by a thread & will be completely destroyed if Cassel and/or McDumbass are in KC next year (unless Casshole's only here to ease in a new QB, then benched shortly into the 2012 season).

I think you missed the convo 58. They are talking about Nick Wright. Not pioli.

Okie_Apparition
12-14-2011, 11:36 AM
You don't draft team captains
Then hire Jeff "leave no thug behind" Fisher

58kcfan89
12-14-2011, 11:37 AM
I think you missed the convo 58. They are talking about Nick Wright. Not pioli.

:doh!:

Thanks for the heads up.

O.city
12-14-2011, 11:37 AM
:doh!:

Thanks for the heads up.

No prob.

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 11:38 AM
You don't draft team captains
Then hire Jeff "leave no thug behind" Fisher

Plus he didn't get along with his GM. Sound familiar? All this talk of Fisher is asinine.

milkman
12-14-2011, 11:39 AM
I think the list is 50% bigger than that:

McDaniels
Crennel
Ferentz

I'm certainly hoping for option 3 given that he won't come here if he's locked to Cassel. The others would.

I didn't include Ferentz since I believe that he's going nowhere and very possibly has already commuicated that to Scott Peterson.

O.city
12-14-2011, 11:40 AM
Maybe we will get lucky and the Rams fire Spags and promote MCD.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 11:41 AM
Are you pro Fisher?

I am on the fence at the moment about him.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 11:43 AM
This is what Wright Said?

Marty I read on Arrowheadpride this morning and Fisher someone posted it from a Twitter feed in one of the threads this morning.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 11:45 AM
Are you pro Fisher?

I want them to interview more than just the unemployed coaches.

CanadaKC
12-14-2011, 11:49 AM
I'm on the Fisher bandwagon...why not? He's taken the Titans to the superbowl...won a bunch of division titles...and he was ousted only cause he didn't side with an owner wanting to keep Vince Young. He ended up getting his way...but lost his job in the acrimony...but he stayed true to his word. If he can do wonders with a small market team in Tennessee...surely he can prop up the continually underachieving Chiefs.

oldandslow
12-14-2011, 11:51 AM
I would bet the farm Fisher is heavily considered. They are going to want a name this time.

Bane
12-14-2011, 11:52 AM
I am on the fence at the moment about him.

Just curious,but I would have to agree.I think he's a pretty good coach,but I'm not sure I want him here.

milkman
12-14-2011, 11:54 AM
I'm on the Fisher bandwagon...why not? He's taken the Titans to the superbowl...won a bunch of division titles...and he was ousted only cause he didn't side with an owner wanting to keep Vince Young. He ended up getting his way...but lost his job in the acrimony...but he stayed true to his word. If he can do wonders with a small market team in Tennessee...surely he can prop up the continually underachieving Chiefs.

4 division titles in 17 years, as pointed out earlier in this thread, is a bunch?

eazyb81
12-14-2011, 11:55 AM
Fisher is probably one of the best candidates we can hope for. He is a known commodity, has had success as a head coach, is not too old, and has much less risk than someone like McDaniels or another coordinator.

That said, he wasn't amazing at Tennessee despite what many believe. He only had 6 winning seasons in 16 years.

mcaj22
12-14-2011, 11:55 AM
4 division titles in 17 years, as pointed out earlier in this thread, is a bunch?



well when ten/eleven of those years you are going up against Peyton Manning in his prime, Id say thats not bad given the team he had.

There are no Peyton Mannings in the AFC West. So I'd say he has a good chance

Bane
12-14-2011, 11:56 AM
Fisher is probably one of the best candidates we can hope for. He is a known commodity, has had success as a head coach, is not too old, and has much less risk than someone like McDaniels or another coordinator.

That said, he wasn't amazing at Tennessee despite what many believe. He only had 6 winning seasons in 16 years.

That one SB appearance seems to distort this fact.

milkman
12-14-2011, 11:57 AM
well when ten/eleven of those years you are going up against Peyton Manning in his prime, Id say thats not bad given the team he had.

There are no Peyton Mannings in the AFC West. So I'd say he has a good chance

See the post immediately before yours.

6 winning seasons.

That pretty much says "suck" to me.

He's been a mediocre coach, at best.

And I'm being kind.

ForeverChiefs58
12-14-2011, 11:58 AM
Josh Looney said this morning that Romeo Crennel was making a great first impression.

I hope that isn't what he is alluding to.

threebag02
12-14-2011, 12:00 PM
Best coach available is Haley.

In the press that's exactly the kind of coach they are looking for. ****ing bizzar.


Que Hall and Oats

...Haley come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Haley come back, you can blame it all on me
I was wrong and I just can't live without you.

Bane
12-14-2011, 12:01 PM
Does anyone honestly see the scenario where Romeo Crennel is the HC of the Chiefs next season?

Epic Fail 007
12-14-2011, 12:03 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmm.........its bill muir is the next hc,rofl

O.city
12-14-2011, 12:05 PM
Like I said before, I dont care who the fuck coaches this team as long as Matt Cassel isn't under center.

Bane
12-14-2011, 12:06 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmm.........its bill muir is the next hc,rofl

Kill yourself just for posting that.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 12:07 PM
Just curious,but I would have to agree.I think he's a pretty good coach,but I'm not sure I want him here.

I am not on anyone band wagon yet. I am still researching on quite a few different coaches that have been named. I don't like everyone listed in this article but there a few I would like them to interview.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/12/13/2634573/32-nfl-head-coaching-candidates

bevischief
12-14-2011, 12:08 PM
Josh Looney said this morning that Romeo Crennel was making a great first impression.

I hope that isn't what he is alluding to.

It is a beginning. Hope they do interview more than just him. I am on the fence with him as well.

Dave Lane
12-14-2011, 12:09 PM
Best coach available is Haley.

I'd jump on him before someone else scoops him up :)

Sofa King
12-14-2011, 12:11 PM
4 division titles in 17 years, as pointed out earlier in this thread, is a bunch?

I think people are really really ignorant about Fisher.

The man is an average coach. More losing seasons than winning, very few division titles, horrible playoff record that even includes a superbowl loss.

Why would anyone want someone else's used up loser for a coach?

Mr_Tomahawk
12-14-2011, 12:16 PM
I think people are really really ignorant about Fisher.

The man is an average coach. More losing seasons than winning, very few division titles, horrible playoff record that even includes a superbowl loss.

Why would anyone want someone else's used up loser for a coach?

Because we probably arent going to land the 3 time superbowl champ coach with a .800 winning pct who is currently floating out their right now.

mcaj22
12-14-2011, 12:17 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/33864369

well I certainly wouldnt get into a bidding war with the Dolphins and overpay for Fisher either.

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-14-2011, 12:21 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmm.........its bill muir is the next hc,rofl

Victory Oatmeal Mondays FTW!!!

htismaqe
12-14-2011, 12:22 PM
Victory Oatmeal Mondays FTW!!!

No more Gatorade on the sidelines...

Metamucil FTW!

KC_Lee
12-14-2011, 12:26 PM
I think people are really really ignorant about Fisher.

The man is an average coach. More losing seasons than winning, very few division titles, horrible playoff record that even includes a superbowl loss.

Why would anyone want someone else's used up loser for a coach?

As much as I have tried to get to word out that Fisher is not the answer I feel I have not done a good enough job. So let's see if I can capture all the reason why should not be the next Chief's HC.

1) He does not try to win games, he trys not to lose. Look at his records over the years, way too many 8 - 8 seasons.

2) Yeah he drafted a QB in the first round, 17 freaking years ago. Big deal, how does this make him a good canidate? Yeah he didn't want VY, but he acted like a petulant child when he and VY were in Nashville.

3) One, and only one, Super Bowl apperance back in 1999. By that logic we should hire Brian Billick, he won a Super Bowl so that should make Billick a better chioce right? <-- That's sarcasm.

4) His playoff record is God awful. I think it was Predarat that pointed out if you remove his one deep run in the playoffs (1999, a run that included the Music City Miracle) Fisher has a Marty-esque 2 - 6 record in the post season.

5) And speaking of Marty-esque performances, if you look at the last time the Titans had home field througout the playoffs it was with the exact type of team Marty used to love and field. Veteran QB coming off the bench, strong running game, strong defense and they loss in the first round at home. Anyone recall the '95 and '97 Chief's seasons?

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 12:33 PM
Fisher doesn't excite me at all. I also don't see him as a good fit. I'd let Jerry Jones hire him when he cans Garrett...

CrazyHorse
12-14-2011, 12:47 PM
As much as I have tried to get to word out that Fisher is not the answer I feel I have not done a good enough job. So let's see if I can capture all the reason why should not be the next Chief's HC.

1) He does not try to win games, he trys not to lose. Look at his records over the years, way too many 8 - 8 seasons.

2) Yeah he drafted a QB in the first round, 17 freaking years ago. Big deal, how does this make him a good canidate? Yeah he didn't want VY, but he acted like a petulant child when he and VY were in Nashville.

3) One, and only one, Super Bowl apperance back in 1999. By that logic we should hire Brian Billick, he won a Super Bowl so that should make Billick a better chioce right? <-- That's sarcasm.

4) His playoff record is God awful. I think it was Predarat that pointed out if you remove his one deep run in the playoffs (1999, a run that included the Music City Miracle) Fisher has a Marty-esque 2 - 6 record in the post season.

5) And speaking of Marty-esque performances, if you look at the last time the Titans had home field througout the playoffs it was with the exact type of team Marty used to love and field. Veteran QB coming off the bench, strong running game, strong defense and they loss in the first round at home. Anyone recall the '95 and '97 Chief's seasons?

Some might call your post tunnel vision.

I would love to get a coach that has you in the playoffs every year, or most years. I dont partiularly like Fisher. But not for those reasons. Fisher wants to be GM and coach and Im not sold on his personel decisions. Though those decisions were made for him in the past, I am still unsure how he would do on his own. Same for Cowher he wants complete control. Not too hot on that idea from a organizational structure standpoint.

I dont have a problem with the coach shopping for the groceries, as long as he's good at it. He dont have to be GM to do it though.

T-post Tom
12-14-2011, 12:49 PM
GOOD NEWS: Nick Wright finally got laid.
BAD NEWS: Mom didn't talk much at breakfast this morning.

LMAO

BoneKrusher
12-14-2011, 12:52 PM
we're getting Cowher?

whoman69
12-14-2011, 12:56 PM
Nick has nothing but his gut feeling.

HemiEd
12-14-2011, 12:57 PM
Fisher is probably one of the best candidates we can hope for. He is a known commodity, has had success as a head coach, is not too old, and has much less risk than someone like McDaniels or another coordinator.

That said, he wasn't amazing at Tennessee despite what many believe. He only had 6 winning seasons in 16 years.

Fisher gets me about as excited as a "morning breath" kiss. No thanks.

tk13
12-14-2011, 12:59 PM
Fisher still wanted a QB the year they drafted Young. Just not the QB they chose for him. That's twisting the facts around a bit.
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BossChief
12-14-2011, 01:04 PM
Romeo > Fisher
Cowher > Fisher, Romeo
Fisher > McDaniels

Tom Clements > all of those
Kirk Ferentz = Clements....but I would probably prefer Clements from GB.

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 01:04 PM
Wright says Pioli doesn't believe McD is a "viable head coaching candidate" because it cannot be sold to ownership or the fans.

the Talking Can
12-14-2011, 01:05 PM
mcdumbass out

fisher in

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2011, 01:05 PM
No Josh McDaniels per Nick Wright

Tribal Warfare
12-14-2011, 01:05 PM
Wright: Pioli believes McDaniels isn't a viable option, and Fischer is but won't offer Jeff big bucks is the bad news

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 01:06 PM
He says Fisher is in the running.

Says bad news is that Chiefs don't plan to offer Fisher more than 3 mil a year, which won't get it done.

Note: I'm not a Fisher fan, so this isn't necessarily bad news to me.

loochy
12-14-2011, 01:06 PM
Ok so Nick says that they won't offer Fisher more than $3 mil a year.

Therefore, I'm sure that Fisher won't come here.

Also, McDaniels won't be the HC because the fans and Clark won't buy it. Pioli wants McD here in some form though.

Edit: Too slow I am

the Talking Can
12-14-2011, 01:06 PM
but chiefs aren't going to offer more than 3 dollars for fisher...seriously

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2011, 01:06 PM
Josh McDaniels not a candidate for KC HC Job.Pioli does'nt believe he can sell it to Clark Hunt.Fisher is a candidate but cheap-skaet Clark won't offer more then 3 mill/yr

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2011, 01:06 PM
All good news from Wright, no McDaniels and a low ball offer to Fisher.

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 01:07 PM
Wright says Pioli doesn't believe McD is a "viable head coaching candidate" because it cannot be sold to ownership or the fans.

When will Pioli realize the same thing about Matt Cassel?

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 01:07 PM
McD could be brought in as OC, per Wright.

If McD is brought in, it will be to work with Cassel, which means Cassel is here to stay...

the Talking Can
12-14-2011, 01:07 PM
pioli loves mcdumbass's cock more than cassel's cock and wants to hire him somehow, probably as OC

Tribal Warfare
12-14-2011, 01:07 PM
Pioli wants to bring in McDaniels in some capacity

the Talking Can
12-14-2011, 01:08 PM
PIOLI STILL LOVES CASSEL

HE ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE BECAUSE PIOLI LOVES HIS BALLSACK

-King-
12-14-2011, 01:08 PM
but chiefs aren't going to offer more than 3 dollars for fisher...seriously

Cool
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FAX
12-14-2011, 01:08 PM
And where did Mr. Nose sniff this information out?

FAX

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 01:08 PM
Pioli wants Cassel to be the Franchise QB; to bring in Josh McDaniels for that purpose.

Fuck this team.

KC_Lee
12-14-2011, 01:09 PM
Some might call your post tunnel vision.

I would love to get a coach that has you in the playoffs every year, or most years. I dont partiularly like Fisher. But not for those reasons. Fisher wants to be GM and coach and Im not sold on his personel decisions. Though those decisions were made for him in the past, I am still unsure how he would do on his own. Same for Cowher he wants complete control. Not too hot on that idea from a organizational structure standpoint.

I dont have a problem with the coach shopping for the groceries, as long as he's good at it. He dont have to be GM to do it though.

Sorry, not tunnel vision. I am a KC native and Chiefs fan that moved to Nashville 8 years ago. I got to watch Fisher first hand.

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 01:09 PM
So to recap, don't be shocked if we interview guys, but end up with Romeo as HC, and McD as OC, and Cassel at QB.

Don't think the board will be happy with that...

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:09 PM
Pioli wants to bring in McDaniels in some capacity

:cuss::deevee::facepalm::banghead::banghead:

the Talking Can
12-14-2011, 01:09 PM
pioli wants to bring in mcdumbass and keep cassel



just let that sink in

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:10 PM
And where did Mr. Nose sniff this information out?

FAX

His ass...

Jawshco
12-14-2011, 01:10 PM
If McD comes in and we continue with Cassel, we'll only get worse. I'm not heart broken about Fisher only getting a 3 mil offer. Fine by me.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:10 PM
So to recap, don't be shocked if we interview guys, but end up with Romeo as HC, and McD as OC, and Cassel at QB.

Don't think the board will be happy with that...

yep.

Red Brooklyn
12-14-2011, 01:11 PM
pioli wants to bring in mcdumbass and keep cassel



just let that sink in

It's literally absurd.

TheGuardian
12-14-2011, 01:11 PM
McDaniels as an OC wouldn't be terrible IMO. An upgrade over Muir. St. Louis would suck with anyone as OC. That whole offense sucks nuts outside of Jackson.

the Talking Can
12-14-2011, 01:11 PM
So to recap, don't be shocked if we interview guys, but end up with Romeo as HC, and McD as OC, and Cassel at QB.

Don't think the board will be happy with that...

this


it's more depressing than i even dreamed

Chiefnj2
12-14-2011, 01:11 PM
Pioli having a hard on for McD is breaking news?

stevenidol
12-14-2011, 01:11 PM
And where did Mr. Nose sniff this information out?

FAX

The "news" he has is just the same speculation that everyone else has.

mnchiefsguy
12-14-2011, 01:12 PM
Here's hoping St. Louis does not fire McDaniels then and keeps him under contract. Of course, given how bad the Rams offense has been, I fail to see how they won't fire him at the end of the season.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:12 PM
We need to get more vocal over the next 3 weeks about how we feel about McD...

okcchief
12-14-2011, 01:12 PM
Best news I could hear.

Nightfyre
12-14-2011, 01:13 PM
spagnuolo would be a viable choice if the rams get gutted, imo.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:13 PM
Best news I could hear.

wut?

htismaqe
12-14-2011, 01:13 PM
Fisher still wanted a QB the year they drafted Young. Just not the QB they chose for him. That's twisting the facts around a bit.
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Pretty sure he wanted Leinart.

Reerun_KC
12-14-2011, 01:13 PM
Well listening to Dick Wrong and there wasnt anything ****ing ground breaking here...

So his great news was ****ing pointless.

milkman
12-14-2011, 01:13 PM
So, who will be the new GM in 2015?

Sofa King
12-14-2011, 01:13 PM
Because we probably arent going to land the 3 time superbowl champ coach with a .800 winning pct who is currently floating out their right now.

No, but we could easily try someone new that doesn't have a track record of constant failure. That would be a good start.

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 01:14 PM
Here's what doesn't jive. Nick says that we can't hire McD as HC because Pioli can't sell that to fans and ownership, and that it won't sell tickets.

But if that's the case and generating excitement in the fanbase and selling tickets is the issue, how is hiring a non-splashy coach or keeping Cassel around going to excite anyone?

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 01:14 PM
PIOLI STILL LOVES CASSEL

HE ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE BECAUSE PIOLI LOVES HIS BALLSACK

Let McDaniels replicate Cassel's 2009 numbers with a healthy Charles. Then of course, we know what will happen. A first-round blowout. JFC, you'd have thought Pioli would have listened to Weis about Cassel. Matt Cassel will cost not only Haley his job, but Pioli his. He's singlehandedly wrecked the franchise.

Fish
12-14-2011, 01:14 PM
McDaniels as an OC wouldn't be terrible IMO. An upgrade over Muir. St. Louis would suck with anyone as OC. That whole offense sucks nuts outside of Jackson.

A cardboard cutout of Abe Vigoda would be an upgrade over Grandpa Muir...

Jawshco
12-14-2011, 01:14 PM
So to recap, don't be shocked if we interview guys, but end up with Romeo as HC, and McD as OC, and Cassel at QB.

Don't think the board will be happy with that...

That's a nightmare! A move like that would only be popular among Raiders, Donks, and Bolts fans.

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 01:15 PM
It makes me literally sick to my fucking stomach to think that Cassel will be back and AND that Mc Dick to Mouth might be the OC. Cheating ass ex Bronco bitch face Deadbeat Dickhead McDaniels

FUCK YOU PIOLI

-King-
12-14-2011, 01:15 PM
I'll kill someone if Cassel is the qb next year. I'm not even lying.
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BoneKrusher
12-14-2011, 01:15 PM
PIOLI STILL LOVES CASSEL

HE ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE BECAUSE PIOLI LOVES HIS BALLSACK

so they shower together?

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 01:15 PM
Nick's now saying he's going to get into stuff he's learned that Haley was purposefully trying to screw Pioli with some of his coaching decisions...

FAX
12-14-2011, 01:15 PM
Honestly, I can't believe that Clark would allow a known cheater to be hired by the Chiefs.

FAX

Jawshco
12-14-2011, 01:16 PM
Wright is saying that Haley played Palko only to "stick it to Pioli"? How does he know that? Pretty crazy accusation.

LOCOChief
12-14-2011, 01:16 PM
mcdaniels in any capacity for this organization would be a disaster.

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 01:17 PM
I'll kill someone if Cassel is the qb next year. I'm not even lying.
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Chiefnj2
12-14-2011, 01:17 PM
If Pioli (in a do-or-die decision) honestly feels that starting Cassel and having McD as OC is the best thing for the organization, then let him go forward with the plan as quickly as possible so we can end his tenure in KC as quickly as possible.

the Talking Can
12-14-2011, 01:17 PM
LMAO

now saying Haley refused to play orton and stanzi, played palko as a FU to pioli...


our franchise is like a high school cafeteria

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 01:17 PM
Honestly, I can't believe that Clark would allow a known cheater to be hired by the Chiefs.

FAX

Honestly, I can't believe Clark didn't stop his GM from undermining his handpicked coach.

loochy
12-14-2011, 01:17 PM
Man, why does it feel so refreshing to have a head coach that actually explains his decisions and have those decisions actually make sense?

milkman
12-14-2011, 01:18 PM
Let McDaniels replicate Cassel's 2009 numbers with a healthy Charles. Then of course, we know what will happen. A first-round blowout. JFC, you'd have thought Pioli would have listened to Weis about Cassel. Matt Cassel will cost not only Haley his job, but Pioli his. He's singlehandedly wrecked the franchise.

The franchise was already wrecked.

This is akin to taking your car to a body shop after an accident, and they "fix" it by beating it with sledge hammers.

Sofa King
12-14-2011, 01:18 PM
pioli wants to bring in mcdumbass and keep cassel



just let that sink in

Fucking Pioli.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:18 PM
Nick's now saying he's going to get into stuff he's learned that Haley was purposefully trying to screw Pioli with some of his coaching decisions...

We are cursed as a fans of this team...

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 01:18 PM
A cardboard cutout of Abe Vigoda would be an upgrade over Grandpa Muir...

LMAO

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 01:18 PM
LMAO

now saying Haley refused to play orton and stanzi, played palko as a FU to pioli...


our franchise is like a high school cafeteria

Oh hot damn :banghead::cuss::#

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 01:18 PM
Wright is saying that Haley played Palko only to "stick it to Pioli"? How does he know that? Pretty crazy accusation.

Makes no sense. How is that sticking it to Pioli?

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:19 PM
Wright is saying that Haley played Palko only to "stick it to Pioli"? How does he know that? Pretty crazy accusation.

I agree.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2011, 01:19 PM
3million for fisher lol haley was making 3 million

arrowheadnation
12-14-2011, 01:19 PM
Fuck this...

Front office and ownership continue to bury this team. If it were a country, the leader would have been ousted by a revolt by now a la Libya. Perhaps it's time for a coup de etat. Time to band together as fans and storm the team headquarters and relieve the negligent powers that be from their positions. Or maybe someone could sling a flaming bag of shit on Clark hunt's doorstep.

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 01:19 PM
If Pioli (in a do-or-die decision) honestly feels that starting Cassel and having McD as OC is the best thing for the organization, then let him go forward with the plan as quickly as possible so we can end his tenure in KC as quickly as possible.

Except it won't; Cassel will stick around if he can replicate 2010 for every two of three years he'll retire a Chief.

chiefs1111
12-14-2011, 01:20 PM
Pretty sure he wanted Leinart.

He wanted Cutler

Priest31kc
12-14-2011, 01:20 PM
If it is true that Pioli really believes that Cassel can be a franchise QB and bringing McDaniels in as OC will make it happen.....He is the stupidest GM in all of football. I am beginning to really hate him.

I just dont understand how an NFL personnel guy like him, with all the experience he has and having Tom Brady as his QB for years, honestly believes Cassel is a good QB.

Can he not see his horrible arm & accuracy? Can he not see that he does not go through his progressions or read a defense or that he panics under pressure and has zero pocket presence? Has he not even watched this offense the past 3 years? I seriously just do not get it, its like he wants to be fired in the next few years.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:20 PM
mcdaniels in any capacity for this organization would be a disaster.

Titanic like...

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 01:20 PM
The franchise was already wrecked.

This is akin to taking your car to a body shop after an accident, and they "fix" it by beating it with sledge hammers.

True. Carl and Herm beat it all to hell, and Pioli takes a dump on it in the form of Matt Cassel.

Sofa King
12-14-2011, 01:21 PM
The franchise was already wrecked.

This is akin to taking your car to a body shop after an accident, and they "fix" it by beating it with sledge hammers.

When you say car, you mean tricycle right?

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 01:21 PM
Fuck this...

Front office and ownership continue to bury this team. If it were a country, the leader would have been ousted by a revolt by now a la Libya. Perhaps it's time for a coup de etat. Time to band together as fans and storm the team headquarters and relieve the negligent powers that be from their positions. Or maybe someone could sling a flaming bag of shit on Clark hunt's doorstep.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Xw1Y4aqXBho/TnfgvUerAlI/AAAAAAAAEHE/vFRh0JBV7as/s400/flaming_bag_of_poop1.jpg

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 01:21 PM
lmao, I predicted this dude's suggestion of Marty before the soundwaves out of my stereo.

loochy
12-14-2011, 01:21 PM
OMG dumb idiot caller wants to bring back marty

LOCOChief
12-14-2011, 01:22 PM
If SD cans Norv I'd bet they'll consider Haley. I can't think of a better candidate. Hel kick our ass long time then. Fuck you Pioli!

BoneKrusher
12-14-2011, 01:22 PM
in the end we will all say:

Fuck The Patriot Way

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 01:22 PM
Makes no sense. How is that sticking it to Pioli?

It was obvious that Palko was a Haley guy (Pittsburgh guy, Arizona Cardinals ties) and he didn't let Stanzi (Pioli guy) sniff the field. I guess that would be the argument...

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:22 PM
Does anyone have Clark's email or phone? So we can fill up inbox and VM.

Jawshco
12-14-2011, 01:23 PM
LMAO

now saying Haley refused to play orton and stanzi, played palko as a FU to pioli...


our franchise is like a high school cafeteria

IF that's true... Add the fact that Pioli 'wants' to hire McD= we need Pioli fired today. Terrible on both fronts.

Wright says that Crennel is the most likely candidate for HC

Dayze
12-14-2011, 01:23 PM
caller wanting to bring back Marty.


I'm convinced 80% of this fanbase is retarded.

loochy
12-14-2011, 01:23 PM
If SD cans Norv I'd bet they'll consider Haley. I can't think of a better candidate. Hel kick our ass long time then. Fuck you Pioli!

I dunno man...his little "screw you pioli" stubborn business (if true) will put him down pretty far on a lot of lists

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 01:23 PM
Does anyone have Clark's email or phone? So we can fill up inbox and VM.

Tell any STH with a brain to write a letter saying Cassel / McD would be idiotic.

durtyrute
12-14-2011, 01:23 PM
Yesterday Nick said that Pioli knows that he is tied to Cassel. I take that as Pioli will try everything in his power to make sure that Cassel wins.

We are actually in a good spot folks. A GM and a coach that are fighting for there asses (more Pioli than Crennel) which should equal a good product on the field

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2011, 01:24 PM
caller wanting to bring back Marty.


I'm convinced 80% of this fanbase is retarded.

This

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:24 PM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/12/13/2632644/marty-schottenheimer-kansas-city-chiefs

Cross Marty Off The List

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The Kansas City Chiefs are once again looking to hire a head coach and, according to Scott Pioli's press conference announcing Todd Haley's firing, the Chiefs GM is open to a lot of possibilities, whether that's a young coordinator, an established head coach or perhaps someone he's worked with before. It sounds like all options are on the table.

When you're in Kansas City, and you're looking for a coach, there's undoubtedly going to be one name that comes up -- Marty.

(Yes, one of the few guys on a first name basis with the entire city of Kansas City.)

Whether it's for the head coaching job, or a front office job, we've heard Marty's name brought up every time the Chiefs have been looking for a head coach whether it's Gunther Cunningham, Dick Vermeil, Herm Edwards or Todd Haley.

I'm not sure if people are actually serious when they suggest Marty-to-the-Chiefs -- I don't think most people are -- but if you are you should check out this quote from Marty in Kent Babb's latest at the KC Star:

"And I'm not looking for a job," Schottenheimer said with a chuckle.

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 01:25 PM
It was obvious that Palko was a Haley guy (Pittsburgh guy, Arizona Cardinals ties) and he didn't let Stanzi (Pioli guy) sniff the field. I guess that would be the argument...

But if Stanzi played well, Cassel is done. I still think it makes no sense. I can go as far as thinking Haley knew he was getting fired, so wanted to give a shot to the guy who had paid his dues, so to speak.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:25 PM
caller wanting to bring back Marty.


I'm convinced 80% of this fanbase is retarded.

Just antifreeze

scho63
12-14-2011, 01:26 PM
A cardboard cutout of Abe Vigoda would be an upgrade over Grandpa Muir...

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

HemiEd
12-14-2011, 01:27 PM
Josh McDaniels not a candidate for KC HC Job.Pioli does'nt believe he can sell it to Clark Hunt.Fisher is a candidate but cheap-skaet Clark won't offer more then 3 mill/yr

He knows this how? Pioli told him or let it out? ROFL

BryanBusby
12-14-2011, 01:27 PM
caller wanting to bring back Marty.


I'm convinced 80% of this fanbase is retarded.

That's an awfully low figure. I'd guess more like 98%

Reerun_KC
12-14-2011, 01:28 PM
Just antifreezeAnd on Monday one guy was saying bring back Herm... Said just imagine what he could do with this talent.

Seriously? Like he can coach up players to their potential? LOL priceless...

Dayze
12-14-2011, 01:28 PM
That's an awfully low figure. I'd guess more like 98%

yeah, I thought about that. I was feeling generous.....it being the holidays and all.

Jawshco
12-14-2011, 01:29 PM
caller wanting to bring back Marty.


I'm convinced 80% of this fanbase is retarded.

The funniest part was when he said something like- why hasn't anyone else thought about Marty- as if this were his own brilliant and inventive idea. Ha! LMAO at that! LMAO

Dayze
12-14-2011, 01:29 PM
T-minus 10 minutes or so until somone calls in and suggests Trent Green as OC.

The Bad Guy
12-14-2011, 01:29 PM
Why doesn't one member of the media ask Pioli what he sees in Cassel? He has the 2nd worst completion percentage in the league, he doesn't beat winning teams.

How long are we going to continue to be served garbage?

Chocolate Hog
12-14-2011, 01:29 PM
I'm trying to figure out who the bigger fucktards are here..... The Front office or The Fanbase?

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:30 PM
And on Monday one guy was saying bring back Herm... Said just imagine what he could do with this talent.

Seriously? Like he can coach up players to their potential? LOL priceless...

LMAO

The Bad Guy
12-14-2011, 01:30 PM
Clark paid Haley almost 3 mill a year. He paid Romeo and Weis 2 million a year.
Pioli makes 5 million a year.

The notion he won't pay an HC is ridiculous.

HemiEd
12-14-2011, 01:30 PM
PIOLI STILL LOVES CASSEL

HE ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE BECAUSE PIOLI LOVES HIS BALLSACK

The draftabulators called that one, they said at the time, that PIOLI's KC GM career is tied to the success of Cassel. Can't remember if it was OTWP58 or Hamas.

Pioli is just too stupid to admit it, or he is in so deep with committing to Clark on him, that he has to make it work or lose his job.

DaWolf
12-14-2011, 01:30 PM
If it is true that Pioli really believes that Cassel can be a franchise QB and bringing McDaniels in as OC will make it happen.....He is the stupidest GM in all of football. I am beginning to really hate him.

I just dont understand how an NFL personnel guy like him, with all the experience he has and having Tom Brady as his QB for years, honestly believes Cassel is a good QB.

Can he not see his horrible arm & accuracy? Can he not see that he does not go through his progressions or read a defense or that he panics under pressure and has zero pocket presence? Has he not even watched this offense the past 3 years? I seriously just do not get it, its like he wants to be fired in the next few years.

My only explanation would be that he for some reason still feels the guy can be coached up, but it really makes no sense to me. For a guy who prides himself and his staff for being thorough, consistent, and forward thinking with their player evaluation methodology, I don't see how you look beyond Cassel's shortcomings the last three years.

There are three possibilities:
1) This is all BS and if an opportunity to replace Cassel with a better player is there, we take it
2) He REALLY believes in Stanzi and thinks Cassel is fine until Stanzi can step in
3) He has no idea how to evaluate QB's

The thing that also confuses me to this day is WHY Josh McDaniels, the guy who he supposedly wants to hire to coach the QB, would be willing to dump Cutler for Cassel.

What the hell is wrong with this picture? What power does Cassel have over these guys?

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:30 PM
T-minus 10 minutes or so until somone calls in and suggests Trent Green as OC.

LMAO




You are right though...

htismaqe
12-14-2011, 01:31 PM
The funniest part was when he said something like- why hasn't anyone else thought about Marty- as if this were his own brilliant and inventive idea. Ha! LMAO at that! LMAO

A lot of us have thought about Marty...

But our gag reflex interferes with the ability to dial a telephone.

Direckshun
12-14-2011, 01:31 PM
I'm telling you right now, if we try to bring in McDaniels to save Cassel, we're going to have Crennel as head coach.

There's absolutely NO WAY a head coach will come to Kansas City if he can't get his own QB.

New coaches want new QBs. They don't want to be saddled with anybody, not even Pro Bowlers.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:31 PM
I'm trying to figure out who the bigger ****tards are here..... The Front office or The Fanbase?

Good luck with that...

LMAO

KC Tattoo
12-14-2011, 01:32 PM
I dunno man...his little "screw you pioli" stubborn business (if true) will put him down pretty far on a lot of lists

I've thought for a long time, that Haley was doing things to undermind Pioli. Iirc that Lane Kiffin tried to have his kicker kick into the wind a 74 yarder just to give Al Davis reason to fire him. That has been my perseption with Palko on the field in the first place.

threebag02
12-14-2011, 01:32 PM
http://www.mysanantonio.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=1689970&width=628&height=471

He's a WINNER now.

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 01:32 PM
Gaither benched as a spite move against Pioli by Haley. Team thinking Albert switched to RT to get Gaither starting at LT.

Uhoh.

Chiefnj2
12-14-2011, 01:32 PM
People laugh at Marty, but want Jeff Fisher as HC???

Better regular season record - Marty by far.
In 10 years in KC Marty made the postseason 7 times.
In 17 years in Houston/Tenn Fisher made the postseason 6 times.

Each made it to the AFC Championship game 1 time. Fisher won his.

Marty was much more consistent.

HemiEd
12-14-2011, 01:32 PM
pioli wants to bring in mcdumbass and keep cassel



just let that sink in

Isn't McDaniels still employed by St. Louis? How is this not tampering if this is legitmate news?

Goonther is probably already on the phone with St. Louis to snitch, since he does the internet thing.

Tribal Warfare
12-14-2011, 01:32 PM
Haley refused to play Gaither to spite Pioli, and some on the team thought Gaither SHOULD have been the LT and Albert at OG.

Chocolate Hog
12-14-2011, 01:33 PM
ROFL

Haley wouldnt play Gaither and started Palko because he didn't want to play Pioli guys but hey he's a great coach - BossChief

Reerun_KC
12-14-2011, 01:33 PM
http://www.mysanantonio.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=1689970&width=628&height=471

He's a WINNER now.

Dear God, even when he is winning something non NFL related he is still a loser...

:facepalm:

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2011, 01:34 PM
gaither is bullshit PIOLI CUT GAITHER

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:34 PM
I've thought for a long time, that Haley was doing things to undermind Pioli. Iirc that Lane Kiffin tried to have his kicker kick into the wind a 74 yarder just to give Al Davis reason to fire him. That has been my perseption with Palko on the field in the first place.

I has been wondering that since the season began after we lost so many at the beginning of the season.

FringeNC
12-14-2011, 01:34 PM
People laugh at Marty, but want Jeff Fisher as HC???

Better regular season record - Marty by far.
In 10 years in KC Marty made the postseason 7 times.
In 17 years in Houston/Tenn Fisher made the postseason 6 times.

Each made it to the AFC Championship game 1 time. Fisher won his.

Marty was much more consistent.

I know. Not even close.

Reerun_KC
12-14-2011, 01:35 PM
My God where do these people come from?

eazyb81
12-14-2011, 01:36 PM
Bill Parcells is only 70.....

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:36 PM
My God where do these people come from?

From the looney bin...

HemiEd
12-14-2011, 01:36 PM
Wright is saying that Haley played Palko only to "stick it to Pioli"? How does he know that? Pretty crazy accusation.

Duh, the Planet is his news source.

KC_Lee
12-14-2011, 01:37 PM
People laugh at Marty, but want Jeff Fisher as HC???

Better regular season record - Marty by far.
In 10 years in KC Marty made the postseason 7 times.
In 17 years in Houston/Tenn Fisher made the postseason 6 times.

Each made it to the AFC Championship game 1 time. Fisher won his.

Marty was much more consistent.

Thank you. Been trying to make this point about Fisher.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:38 PM
My God where do these people come from?

Arkansas

LOCOChief
12-14-2011, 01:38 PM
Gaither benched as a spite move against Pioli by Haley. Team thinking Albert switched to RT to get Gaither starting at LT.

Uhoh.

where are you hearing this?

Reerun_KC
12-14-2011, 01:39 PM
hahahahahahaah

Crennel should be the coach... Cause he can get the job done

Montana, Shannahan, Bledsoe or Len Dawson at the OC...

MY God...

Priceless...

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 01:39 PM
Montana, Shanahan, Bledsoe, or Len Dawson as OC candidates according to Big Ken.

Goddamn there are some mental midgets in our fan base.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:39 PM
Joe Montana?LMAO

Dayze
12-14-2011, 01:39 PM
JFC; i hope that guy hasn't procreated.

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:40 PM
Montana, Shanahan, Bledsoe, or Len Dawson as OC candidates according to Big Ken.

Goddamn there are some mental midgets in our fan base.

This is the funniest thing I have heard all day..

Von Dumbass
12-14-2011, 01:40 PM
From a random caller

"We should hire Joe Montana as OC, or maybe Mike Shanahan, Drew Bledsoe, or Len Dawson"

ROFL ROFL ROFL

mlyonsd
12-14-2011, 01:40 PM
Waded back several pages.....so what was the great/disheartening news?

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 01:40 PM
Wright finishing up the stitching job on Big Ken's clownsuit with a Bill Grigsby crack.

Tribal Warfare
12-14-2011, 01:40 PM
where are you hearing this?

Nick Wright

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:41 PM
Who is his call screener Mickey Mouse?

Red Beans
12-14-2011, 01:41 PM
Arkansas

Or N.D.

Tytanium
12-14-2011, 01:41 PM
Thank you. Been trying to make this point about Fisher.

Some of it might come from the fact that the last 10 years they've had to play against and in the shadow of Peyton Manning. And more recently, Matt Schaub (though Kubiak ensured that didn't happen much).

bevischief
12-14-2011, 01:42 PM
Or N.D.

Doesn't have the Fargo accent...

Reerun_KC
12-14-2011, 01:42 PM
Waded back several pages.....so what was the great/disheartening news?

he didnt say anything we all didnt already know...

He failed so bad...

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 01:42 PM
Some of it might come from the fact that the last 10 years they've had to play against and in the shadow of Peyton Manning. And more recently, Matt Schaub (though Kubiak ensured that didn't happen much).

Marty had to go against Elway and the odd year when San Diego was good. Point?

Bowser
12-14-2011, 01:42 PM
I'm holding out for Lombardi as coach and Don Coryell as OC.

Fritz88
12-14-2011, 01:42 PM
Cassel will still be here?

Okay...
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mlyonsd
12-14-2011, 01:43 PM
he didnt say anything we all didnt already know...

He failed so bad...Thanks.

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2011, 01:43 PM
Why can't anyone spell names correctly?

Not Fischer, FISHER

Not Weiss, WEIS

Chocolate Hog
12-14-2011, 01:43 PM
I'm holding out for Lombardi as coach and Don Coryell as OC.

Honestly Wayne Fontes should get a look because of how he handled press conferences.

Red Beans
12-14-2011, 01:44 PM
Doesn't have the Fargo accent...

Oh yeeeaaahh? Well what about Jerry Lundegaard?

Barret
12-14-2011, 01:44 PM
Ok just thinking of how to "play the game" as far as what you want to draft. If Pioli came out and said that Cassel is being groomed to come back then all the draft people would say "oh they must be taking a OT" like they do every year.

So if he wants to move up in the draft and starts talking to other teams then some teams might think he is moving up to grab the OT that will protect Cassel so they will believe their QB will still be available and they wont try to outbid the Chiefs. Then Pioli grabs RGIII or Barkley and everyone shits themselves?

Now I am giving Pioli a lot of credit here but isn't that how the game is played?

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2011, 01:45 PM
Marty's problem was he coached to the level of his QB. If had a Dan Marino or Peyton Manning as his QB, both of them would have won alot with Marty IMO. They had the personality to deal with Marty and overcome his shortcomings.

I would like the Chiefs to get a coach like Marty, he was a great motivator, teams played with discipline, for the most part well rounded teams considering the offensive talent we had. So basically I would like to see Marty with balls.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2011, 01:47 PM
I dont buy the fisher 3 million thing,Hunt just paid 2.5 million for orton to play 4 games

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 01:47 PM
Ok just thinking of how to "play the game" as far as what you want to draft. If Pioli came out and said that Cassel is being groomed to come back then all the draft people would say "oh they must be taking a OT" like they do every year.

So if he wants to move up in the draft and starts talking to other teams then some teams might think he is moving up to grab the OT that will protect Cassel so they will believe their QB will still be available and they wont try to outbid the Chiefs. Then Pioli grabs RGIII or Barkley and everyone shits themselves?

Now I am giving Pioli a lot of credit here but isn't that how the game is played?

That only works when the other 31 teams in the draft don't credibly think he'll trade up under any circumstance.

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 01:48 PM
Wright now saying Gaither was cut to protect Mims from poaching off the practice squad...

Makes no sense.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2011, 01:48 PM
Now he is saying pioli cut gaither to save mims

-King-
12-14-2011, 01:49 PM
Why can't anyone spell names correctly?

Not Fischer, FISHER

Not Weiss, WEIS

I know right? It's like firing Hailey ruined everybodies ability to spell names.
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Nightfyre
12-14-2011, 01:49 PM
Wright is just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, as usual.

Coogs
12-14-2011, 01:49 PM
Makes no sense. How is that sticking it to Pioli?

My guess is you know you only get so many chances to be a head coach in the NFL, and that being tied to Cassel by Pioli, Haley had figured out this is going to be his one and only stint as an NFL head coach. So to get back at Pioli for bieng saddled with Cassel on his one and only chance, he stuck it to him with Palko.

BigCatDaddy
12-14-2011, 01:49 PM
Any calls for Ditka yet?

Chocolate Hog
12-14-2011, 01:50 PM
What Wright didn't mention is his source is BigRedChief.

BossChief
12-14-2011, 01:50 PM
Best coach available is Haley.
yup, its not even close.
ROFL

Haley wouldnt play Gaither and started Palko because he didn't want to play Pioli guys but hey he's a great coach - BossChief

You have no clue as to what happened behind closed doors that Made Haley so sour on Pioli. I bet the tell all book down the line will be very enlightening as to what made the situation get to that point and Ill bet the house and truck that it all centered around Cassel.

BTW, I have a lot of posts from before the season started where I said Gaither should be our LT and Albert should be moved to LG to accommodate to move.

I also have said Stanzi should be the starter the moment Cassel went down.

The Bad Guy
12-14-2011, 01:53 PM
Yeah, I'm sure a tell all book will happen. Get freaking real. Who's writing this book? Haley? How many people will buy it? Maybe 300?

No one outside of this fan base cares about the Scott Pioli/Todd Haley rift.

-King-
12-14-2011, 01:54 PM
Yeah, I'm sure a tell all book will happen. Get freaking real. Who's writing this book? Haley? How many people will buy it? Maybe 300?

No one outside of this fan base cares about the Scott Pioli/Todd Haley rift.

This.
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loochy
12-14-2011, 01:56 PM
Why can't anyone spell names correctly?

Not Fischer, FISHER

Not Weiss, WEIS

Not Cassel, CASTLE

Chocolate Hog
12-14-2011, 01:56 PM
yup, its not even close.


You have no clue as to what happened behind closed doors that Made Haley so sour on Pioli. I bet the tell all book down the line will be very enlightening as to what made the situation get to that point and Ill bet the house and truck that it all centered around Cassel.

BTW, I have a lot of posts from before the season started where I said Gaither should be our LT and Albert should be moved to LG to accommodate to move.

I also have said Stanzi should be the starter the moment Cassel went down.

Continue to save face instead of admitting the last several months you were talking out of your ass.

Brock
12-14-2011, 01:58 PM
BTW, I have a lot of posts from before the season started where I said Gaither should be our LT and Albert should be moved to LG to accommodate to move.

It's no better an idea now than it was then.

ROYC75
12-14-2011, 01:58 PM
Wright is just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, as usual.

This ^ Nothing new.

DeezNutz
12-14-2011, 01:59 PM
yup, its not even close.


LMAO.

YourMom
12-14-2011, 01:59 PM
The next head coach should be Cowher, and the Chiefs should throw so much money at him that he can't justify not taking the job.

Shore up the pass protection, find a QB who isn't a retarded little girl, and you have yourself a whole new franchise.

SenselessChiefsFan
12-14-2011, 02:00 PM
Why can't anyone spell names correctly?

Not Fischer, FISHER

Not Weiss, WEIS

Thanks, Daave.

Huffmeister
12-14-2011, 02:02 PM
Any calls for Ditka yet?

Full sized Ditka, or little mini-Ditkas?

BossChief
12-14-2011, 02:03 PM
Yeah, I'm sure a tell all book will happen. Get freaking real. Who's writing this book? Haley? How many people will buy it? Maybe 300?

No one outside of this fan base cares about the Scott Pioli/Todd Haley rift.
a lot more will find it interesting when he goes on to have a successful coaching career post KC/Pioli and people are like "why did he get fired in KC?"
Continue to save face instead of admitting the last several months you were talking out of your ass.

Nothing has changed with my takes.

Nothing.

Here is how I see it and have always seen it:

Haley is a damn good coach, with a quarterback he is absolutely a top 5 NFL HC. His ONLY mistake was Tyler Palko....he did a fantastic job of developing every drop of talent this team had before he got here and the talent the team added after he was hired all have his stamp on them.

He was never given the tool (quarterback) it takes to win big games in this league.

As for Pioli, I think he has done a damn fine job EXCEPT FOR CASSEL (and the 2009 NFL draft).

I will always believe that If Pioli got this team a legit quarterback BOTH guys would be talked about as cream of the crop guys relative to their respective jobs.

Now, if you disagree with any of that...thats your choice but I think its 100% spot on.

discuss.

doomy3
12-14-2011, 02:03 PM
What Wright didn't mention is his source is BigRedChief.

Nick's on the secret mailing list?

eazyb81
12-14-2011, 02:05 PM
The next head coach should be Cowher, and the Chiefs should throw so much money at him that he can't justify not taking the job.

Shore up the pass protection, find a QB who isn't a retarded little girl, and you have yourself a whole new franchise.

Pretty much.

But the problems are A) Cowher will want control over personnel decisions, and B) Pioli is too insecure to hire someone from outside the tree with more sway than him.

Cowher isn't perfect but he is clearly the best coaching candidate.

BossChief
12-14-2011, 02:07 PM
People forget that Haley was a legit finalist for NFL coach of the year last year.

The year he polished the turd known as Matt Cassel as much as that turd could be polished.

YourMom
12-14-2011, 02:08 PM
Pretty much.

But the problems are A) Cowher will want control over personnel decisions, and B) Pioli is too insecure to hire someone from outside the tree with more sway than him.

Cowher isn't perfect but he is clearly the best coaching candidate.

Like a politician, Pioli's utmost concern is keeping his job, and looking good doing it. He's a smart man, and surely knows that Cowher is the coach with the greatest chance of making him look good...even if he has to give up a little control in the process.

Buck
12-14-2011, 02:08 PM
I just went on Nick Wright's twitter. Why does he have all that The Wire stuff up there?

Bowser
12-14-2011, 02:08 PM
I just went on Nick Wright's twitter. Why does he have all that The Wire stuff up there?

He's a Wire nerd.

YourMom
12-14-2011, 02:09 PM
People forget that Haley was a legit finalist for NFL coach of the year last year.

The year he polished the turd known as Matt Cassel as much as that turd could be polished.

Cassel and Haley are both gay.

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2011, 02:09 PM
I just went on Nick Wright's twitter. Why does he have all that The Wire stuff up there?

Channeling his inner Whitlock.

Chocolate Hog
12-14-2011, 02:10 PM
People forget that Haley was a legit finalist for NFL coach of the year last year.

The year he polished the turd known as Matt Cassel as much as that turd could be polished.

People forget Bill Callahan took a team to the super bowl.

The Bad Guy
12-14-2011, 02:10 PM
People forget that Haley was a legit finalist for NFL coach of the year last year.

The year he polished the turd known as Matt Cassel as much as that turd could be polished.

The year that he played the easiest schedule ever.

C'mon man.