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Okie_Apparition
12-14-2011, 06:37 PM
Arrowhead Report: Chiefs quarterbacks share their thoughts for Sunday
By Josh Looney

Posted 1 hour ago

Kyle Orton, Ricky Stanzi and Tyler Palko are each taking a different approach this week, plus other notes from Wednesday at Arrowhead

Now that the first mystery of the Romeo Crennel era has been solved, Chiefs fans can move to another.

Kyle Orton’s right index finger.

Crennel named Orton the Chiefs starting quarterback Wednesday morning, but only if Orton is healthy enough to play after dislocating his right index finger two weeks ago at Chicago. Otherwise, rookie Ricky Stanzi will make his NFL debut.

Both Orton and Stanzi worked with the first-team offense during Wednesday’s practice, but Orton said he has to prove he can make the necessary throws before he’ll be cleared to play.

“I feel pretty good,” Orton said following practice. “I’m just going to kind of take it as it goes and we’ll see what happens when we get to Sunday, but for today it felt about as good as I think it could.”

“Obviously taking snaps with the first-team is different than being on the scout team,” Stanzi added. “That’s really where most of the change has been for me. I’ve been in this position once before as the backup when Tyler (Palko) was in. It’s not too different, but the actual first-team reps have been a bit of a change.”

Stanzi has served as the Chiefs No. 2 quarterback in three games this season, but has yet to see the field. He’s been inactive in Kansas City’s other 10 games this year.

The use of Stanzi has been a hot-topic among the fan base since Matt Cassel’s season-ending hand injury last month. Even with the offense struggling to move the football and some games getting out of reach, Stanzi has remained on the bench.

Regardless, Stanzi says he’s completely healthy and that his confidence hasn’t been affected.

“Your job as a rookie is to come in and do what you’re told by the coaches,” Stanzi said. “You respect the guys who have been on this team. That is your job and that’s the bottom line. You just keep your mouth shut and you work hard.

“That’s been my main focus all the way through and it will always be that way. That’s just the best way to be ready to help your team and I’ll play whatever role they want me to be in.”

If Stanzi starts, he'll be the Chiefs first rookie to start at quarterback since Steve Fuller in 1979.

After starting the last four games, Tyler Palko shifted into a scout team role as the Chiefs No. 3 quarterback.

“That’s Coach Crennel’s decision,” Palko said. “You’re a professional and you have to come to work and do your job every day. That’s what a good teammate does. As one of 53, you come to work and you help your team get better and that’s what I’m going to do over these next three weeks.”

Orton Familiar with Packers

Of Kyle Orton’s 66 NFL starts, five have come against the Green Bay Packers.

Orton made four starts against Green Bay as a starter for Chicago from 2005-08 and squared off against the Packers as a starter for the Broncos earlier this year. He carries a 3-2 record in his five starts against Green Bay.

“I have played a lot against many of the players on their team and I have a lot of respect for them,” Orton said. “They are a very good football team and they have been for a while now. We’ll have to be at our best to have a chance.”

Overall, Orton has completed 64-of-117 pass attempts for 720 yards with five TDs and six INTs against the Packers. He most recently threw for 273 yards with three TDs and three INTs in Denver’s 49-23 loss in Green Bay on October 2nd.

“It was one of their classic games,” Orton said. “They got up on us by about 17 points and then we battled back to get within three. But by the next time we touched the ball we were down 17 points again. They can score fast, they score often and it’s definitely going to take a total team win to stay with these guys.”

NFL Coaching Class of 2009 is Fading

Today’s NFL is often referred to as the “Not For Long” League and the coaching class of 2009 certainly fits that motto.

Todd Haley became the sixth head coach of 2009’s 11-member coaching class to receive his dismissal before three full seasons.

Another three coaches are currently on the hot seat and only two – Rex Ryan of the New York Jets and Jim Schwartz of the Detroit Lions – appear to have sound job security for the 2012 season.

THE NFL’S COACHING CLASS OF 2009

2009 2010 2011 2009-11
Coach Team Record Record Record Record

Rex Ryan NYJ 9-7 11-5 8-5 28-17 (.622)

Jim Caldwell IND 14-2 10-6 0-13 24-21 (.533)

Jim Mora SEA 5-11 NA NA 5-11 (.455)

Todd Haley KC 4-12 10-6 5-8 19-26 (.422)

*Mike Singletary SF 8-8 5-10 NA 13-18 (.419)

*Tom Cable OAK 5-11 8-8 NA 13-19 (.406)

Josh McDaniels DEN 8-8 3-9 NA 11-17 (.393)

Raheem Morris TB 3-13 10-6 4-9 17-28 (.378)

Jim Schwartz DET 2-14 6-10 8-5 16-29 (.356)

Eric Mangini CLE 5-11 5-11 NA 10-22 (.313)

Steve Spagnuolo STL 1-15 7-9 2-11 10-35 (.222)

*served as interim head coach for a portion of the 2008 season

Injury Report

Chiefs Injury Report

Did Not Practice – S Jon McGraw (Ankle)

Limited Practice - QB Kyle Orton (Right Finger)

Packers Injury Report

OUT – T Chad Clifton (Hamstring/Back), WR Greg Jennings (Knee)

Did Not Practice – LB Desmond Bishop (Calf), DE Ryan Pickett (Concussion), RB Brandon Saine (Concussion), RB James Starks (Knee/Ankle)

Limited Practice – G Josh Sitton (Knee)

Full Practice – LB A.J. Hawk (Calf), LB Vic So’oto (Back)

O.city
12-14-2011, 06:39 PM
Go Stanzi.

Jive Ass
12-14-2011, 06:44 PM
Cool. Hopefully Stanzi gets some playing time in one of these three games.

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2011, 06:44 PM
If Stanzi starts, he'll be the Chiefs first rookie to start at quarterback since Steve Fuller in 1979 :facepalm:

Okie_Apparition
12-14-2011, 06:44 PM
If Stanzi starts, he'll be the Chiefs first rookie to start at quarterback since Steve Fuller in 1979.

talastan
12-14-2011, 06:46 PM
Play the rook Romeo!! The only way that I would be fine with Orton at QB is if we can lose the last three games and but stay in them offensively. That way Kyle can prove what a POS QB Cassel really is.

Okie_Apparition
12-14-2011, 06:46 PM
13 could start after 13 games on the bench
IT'S A SIGN
that should be ignored like no lottering

talastan
12-14-2011, 06:47 PM
13 could start after 13 games on the bench
IT'S A SIGN
that should be ignored like no lottering

Brady v. 2.0!!!! OOMMMGGGGG!!!!!!!!11111!!!elventybillion...

JK ;)

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-14-2011, 06:50 PM
Good attitude by Stanzi and LOL at Palkos "that's what a good team mate does" line... right out of Crennels presser. The Chiefs media guide should list...

Kyle Orton- QB
Ricky Stanzi- QB
Tyler Palko- Good Team Mate

Tribal Warfare
12-14-2011, 06:51 PM
“Your job as a rookie is to come in and do what you’re told by the coaches,” Stanzi said. “You respect the guys who have been on this team. That is your job and that’s the bottom line. You just keep your mouth shut and you work hard.

“That’s been my main focus all the way through and it will always be that way. That’s just the best way to be ready to help your team and I’ll play whatever role they want me to be in. America #1"

FYP Ricky

whoman69
12-14-2011, 07:12 PM
Goes to show you how impatient front offices are for a winner.

Lonewolf Ed
12-14-2011, 07:20 PM
The bad thing with Palko playing the QB on the scout team is that the defensive backs won't get any good practice in on deep pass routes. 20 yards or less, then they'll be ready!

HemiEd
12-14-2011, 07:27 PM
:facepalm:

Matt Stevens and Frank Sauer in 87? I have to admit, I totally forgot those two.

the Talking Can
12-14-2011, 07:28 PM
the Chiefs first rookie to start at quarterback since Steve Fuller in 1979.

my brain imploded, then exploded, then shrugged its shoulders and said ' fuck it, hind sites are 50/50"

FAX
12-14-2011, 07:28 PM
I have a question.

FAX

Chocolate Hog
12-14-2011, 07:32 PM
Was Steve Fuller any good?

Count Alex's Wins
12-14-2011, 07:38 PM
Orton is starting.

SNR
12-14-2011, 07:43 PM
Stanzi's press conference:

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Hog Farmer
12-14-2011, 07:50 PM
I think Haley was trying to get fired . Stanzi should have started 3 weeks ago !

J Diddy
12-14-2011, 07:52 PM
The bad thing with Palko playing the QB on the scout team is that the defensive backs won't get any good practice in on deep pass routes. 20 yards or less, then they'll be ready!


Maybe the wide receivers need to play corner opposite the scout team. Plenty of catching practice.

J Diddy
12-14-2011, 07:58 PM
Play the rook Romeo!! The only way that I would be fine with Orton at QB is if we can lose the last three games and but stay in them offensively. That way Kyle can prove what a POS QB Cassel really is.

You have to understand something though. Crennel is coaching for a job. If he plays Stanzi, he can't pull Stanzi because that would destroy him. I dunno, I got to say, if he plays Stanzi he's got the balls I want in a head coach. Although, Orton is the safe bet.

KC Tattoo
12-14-2011, 08:08 PM
Just shows they have not been prepping Stanzi to become the man under center. Had nothing to do how good he is or isn't just the fact he is a 5th round draft pick QB. Stanzi has the upside to do what it takes to be successful in this league, he just needs the opportunity.

Crennel said it in his press that if Bledsoe didn't get injured that Tom Brady wouldn't have got on the field & perpell the Patriots to 4 Super Bowls. They didn't switch QB with Cassel untill he had his hand " injury ".

mlyonsd
12-14-2011, 08:15 PM
Was Steve Fuller any good?His nickname in 1979 was Captain America.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-14-2011, 08:28 PM
I think Haley was trying to get fired . Stanzi should have started 3 weeks ago !

I'm leaning toward agreement there. Isn't it cool when a highly paid head coach of a major sports franchise gives up while on the job?

DBOSHO
12-14-2011, 08:28 PM
Its not a coincidence that stanzi has a number for every original colony.

JoeyChuckles
12-14-2011, 08:34 PM
my brain imploded, then exploded, then shrugged its shoulders and said ' fuck it, hind sites are 50/50"

Hind sex is 100/2

Noss
12-14-2011, 09:06 PM
I think Haley was trying to get fired . Stanzi should have started 3 weeks ago !

He should have started 13 weeks ago.

Guru
12-14-2011, 09:25 PM
Was Steve Fuller any good?

He has a superbowl ring. ;)

BWillie
12-14-2011, 10:04 PM
Just shows they have not been prepping Stanzi to become the man under center. Had nothing to do how good he is or isn't just the fact he is a 5th round draft pick QB. Stanzi has the upside to do what it takes to be successful in this league, he just needs the opportunity.

Crennel said it in his press that if Bledsoe didn't get injured that Tom Brady wouldn't have got on the field & perpell the Patriots to 4 Super Bowls. They didn't switch QB with Cassel untill he had his hand " injury ".

Agreed kinda hard to evaluate a guy who doesn't ever get reps except w/ the scout team, and no 1st team reps.

O.city
12-14-2011, 10:35 PM
After this week when we are mathematically out of contention, Stanzi will play.

rocknrolla
12-14-2011, 11:27 PM
If Stanzi starts, he'll be the Chiefs first rookie to start at quarterback since Steve Fuller in 1979.

That is pathetic.
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Count Alex's Wins
12-14-2011, 11:27 PM
After this week when we are mathematically out of contention, Stanzi will play.

Doubt it.

They probably want Baldwin to have a chance to get some work in.

boogblaster
12-14-2011, 11:44 PM
Stanzi .. here we go ....

Frankie
12-15-2011, 12:01 AM
Was Steve Fuller any good?

We beat out the 49ers to get him in the 1st round. SF, disappointed, settled for some Notre Dame QB in the end of the 3rd. What was the fella's name?... hmmm,... Jomon something. YEAH THAST's RIGHT. JOMON TANA.

Frankie
12-15-2011, 12:02 AM
Maybe the wide receivers need to play corner opposite the scout team. Plenty of catching practice.

LMAO


Crennel said it in his press that if Bledsoe didn't get injured that Tom Brady wouldn't have got on the field & perpell the Patriots to 4 Super Bowls.

The correct spelling is purple.

Frankie
12-15-2011, 12:08 AM
Was Steve Fuller any good?
BTW, I think I remember the first regular game he came in he almost brought the Chiefs back from a very large deficit. We all thought we had a budding elite QB then.

Fairplay
12-15-2011, 02:40 AM
Steve Fuller does the best fake hand off I've ever seen.

KC Tattoo
12-15-2011, 02:55 AM
LMAO



The correct spelling is purple.

No, the correct spelling is perpel. Or Definition of PROPEL. transitive verb: to drive forward or onward by or as if by means of a force that imparts motion

that's the word how I wanted to use it at any rate. Kind of perplexed at spelling. IDC.

threebag02
12-15-2011, 05:14 AM
The use of Stanzi has been a hot-topic among the fan base since Matt Cassel even holds a roster spot.

Frosty
12-15-2011, 08:25 AM
“Obviously taking snaps with the first-team is different than being on the scout team,” Stanzi added. “That’s really where most of the change has been for me. I’ve been in this position once before as the backup when Tyler (Palko) was in. It’s not too different, but the actual first-team reps have been a bit of a change.”

Doesn't sound like Stanzi has gotten many, if any, reps with the first team all season, even when he was the primary backup.

Chiefnj2
12-15-2011, 08:27 AM
Doesn't sound like Stanzi has gotten many, if any, reps with the first team all season, even when he was the primary backup.

Exactly. I'm so happy Haley is gone.

Reerun_KC
12-15-2011, 08:31 AM
The best thing that can happen to this franchise is for them to play Stanzi...

Orton does nothing for us, now or in the future... The fact that he is on the roster is a slap in the face...

Chiefnj2
12-15-2011, 08:33 AM
The best thing that can happen to this franchise is for them to play Stanzi...

Orton does nothing for us, now or in the future... The fact that he is on the roster is a slap in the face...

Tough to start a guy this week when the first time he's taken 1st team snaps in his entire career is on Wednesday.

BoneKrusher
12-15-2011, 08:46 AM
He should have started 13 weeks ago.

i agree.
we knew the Chiefs sucked at QB going into the season.

Frosty
12-15-2011, 08:48 AM
Exactly. I'm so happy Haley is gone.

I liked Haley but the more that comes out since his firing, the more glad I am that he is gone.

Rausch
12-15-2011, 08:55 AM
Exactly. I'm so happy Haley is gone.

For 1,000 reasons.

Reerun_KC
12-15-2011, 08:57 AM
Tough to start a guy this week when the first time he's taken 1st team snaps in his entire career is on Wednesday.

No worse than Palko or Orton...

Chiefnj2
12-15-2011, 08:58 AM
No worse than Palko or Orton...

Don't be stupid.

htismaqe
12-15-2011, 09:06 AM
Don't be stupid.

You do realize Orton was throwing yesterday but wasn't taking any actual snaps, right?

What's the difference between Palko throwing 3 INTs or Orton fumbling 5 times?

Reerun_KC
12-15-2011, 09:08 AM
Don't be stupid.

I dont care if the Chiefs still are in "the hunt" ROFL... Orton doesnt give this team any more of a chance than Stanzi...

You stop being stupid here... Pull you head out of your true fan ass and look at the over all picture...

Reerun_KC
12-15-2011, 09:09 AM
You do realize Orton was throwing yesterday but wasn't taking any actual snaps, right?

What's the difference between Palko throwing 3 INTs or Orton fumbling 5 times?

but Orton gives is the best chance to win...

siberian khatru
12-15-2011, 09:12 AM
What's the difference between Palko throwing 3 INTs or Orton fumbling 5 times?

Field position. :D

htismaqe
12-15-2011, 09:19 AM
Field position. :D

So you're saying Palko is actually BETTER.

ROFL

Reerun_KC
12-15-2011, 09:21 AM
So you're saying Palko is actually BETTER.

ROFL

I think its a ploy to save the wear on Dustins leg...

Chiefnj2
12-15-2011, 09:22 AM
I dont care if the Chiefs still are in "the hunt" ROFL... Orton doesnt give this team any more of a chance than Stanzi...

You stop being stupid here... Pull you head out of your true fan ass and look at the over all picture...

Orton prepared for the Packers and played them once this year. He threw 3 TD passes against them, something KC has been able to do maybe 2 times this entire year. Whether you want to admit it or not, that is a HUGE advantage over a rookie who never even took snaps with the first team until yesterday. If Orton's finger is okay, he is 100x more prepared than Stanzi.

Reerun_KC
12-15-2011, 09:24 AM
Orton prepared for the Packers and played them once this year. He threw 3 TD passes against them, something KC has been able to do maybe 2 times this entire year. Whether you want to admit it or not, that is a HUGE advantage over a rookie who never even took snaps with the first team until yesterday. If Orton's finger is okay, he is 100x more prepared than Stanzi.

Guess we will see...

I dont expect Orton to save this franchise or its quest to stay in "the hunt"

Chief Faithful
12-15-2011, 09:42 AM
You do realize Orton was throwing yesterday but wasn't taking any actual snaps, right?

What's the difference between Palko throwing 3 INTs or Orton fumbling 5 times?

Other teams have to respect Orton's ability to throw downfield.

Putting Palko on third string is the first great sign that Crennel can do the job of HC.

htismaqe
12-15-2011, 10:41 AM
Other teams have to respect Orton's ability to throw downfield.

Putting Palko on third string is the first great sign that Crennel can do the job of HC.

If he can't take a regular or shotgun snap without pain in his finger, he can't throw PERIOD, let alone downfield.

I will repeat it again - he was throwing at practice yesterday but he was NOT taking snaps with the other 2 QBs.

Lzen
12-15-2011, 11:45 AM
Good attitude by Stanzi and LOL at Palkos "that's what a good team mate does" line... right out of Crennels presser. The Chiefs media guide should list...

Kyle Orton- QB
Ricky Stanzi- QB
Tyler Palko- Good Team Mate

ROFL

Frankie
12-15-2011, 11:48 AM
Orton prepared for the Packers and played them once this year. He threw 3 TD passes against them, something KC has been able to do maybe 2 times this entire year. Whether you want to admit it or not, that is a HUGE advantage over a rookie who never even took snaps with the first team until yesterday. If Orton's finger is okay, he is 100x more prepared than Stanzi.
that's only good for Romeo. Bad for us suffering fans. Winning another game does NOTHING for the long term healing of this team. N-O-T-H-I-N-G!

However, knowing whether we have a potential QBOTF or not is a huge help.

SNR
12-15-2011, 11:49 AM
The use of Stanzi has been a hot-topic among the fan base since Matt Cassel even holds a roster spot.THANK you

SNR
12-15-2011, 11:52 AM
Tough to start a guy this week when the first time he's taken 1st team snaps in his entire career is on Wednesday.It didn't seem to be a problem for TJ Yates

Baby Lee
12-15-2011, 12:03 PM
Field position. :D

Meh, a fumble occurs near the line of scrimmage. Palko can't throw 5 yards past it.

whoman69
12-15-2011, 06:12 PM
Meh, a fumble occurs near the line of scrimmage. Palko can't throw 5 yards past it.

So we're losing 5-7 yards on that exchange unless Palko throws a pick 6.

NJChiefsFan
12-15-2011, 06:53 PM
Orton prepared for the Packers and played them once this year. He threw 3 TD passes against them, something KC has been able to do maybe 2 times this entire year. Whether you want to admit it or not, that is a HUGE advantage over a rookie who never even took snaps with the first team until yesterday. If Orton's finger is okay, he is 100x more prepared than Stanzi.

Thats why I understand what Romeo is doing. As for whats best for the organization, Stanzi is the better choice. Atleast we see what he has. We get no advantage from starting Orton. Even if Orton did help us win a game, what value is that right now. Its a negative actually.