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htismaqe
12-15-2011, 04:30 PM
In case anybody was unaware, they used to lock the doors at Arrowhead so that the media had to have an ESCORT to go to the damn bathroom.

As of today, the locks are OFF.

Danny Clinkscale is speculating that they're trying to make it appear that all the secrecy was TODD HALEY'S idea.

ROFL

O.city
12-15-2011, 04:32 PM
Wow. They are going out on a limb to make Todd the bad guy.


Thing is, if he has to take the fall for Pioli to change his ways and do the right thing......I'm fine with that.

Sofa King
12-15-2011, 04:32 PM
LMAO

Petty bullshit.

HemiEd
12-15-2011, 04:33 PM
That is one theory, another one might be that Clark told Pioli to change the crap and start treating the media and fans with respect.

Micjones
12-15-2011, 04:33 PM
That won't help Pioli's cause. He hired Haley.
So now that he's gone...spotlight's on him.
You have even less margin for error now Scotty.

mdchiefsfan
12-15-2011, 04:34 PM
That is one theory, another one might be that Clark told Pioli to change the crap and start treating the media and fans with respect.

Sounds about right to me.

O.city
12-15-2011, 04:35 PM
The injuries to Berry and Charles and Mo might have set of a chain reaction that might end up being the best thing that could happen to this franchise. I guess we will see come April if Scott P turned the corner.


For some reason I don't see it happening.

Tribal Warfare
12-15-2011, 04:35 PM
http://omgdude.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/shitter_was_full.jpg

Otter
12-15-2011, 04:36 PM
Ladies and gentleman, meet Arrowhead's own Steve Bartman...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/04/26/arts/ab-gibney/ab-gibney-blog480.jpg

Demonpenz
12-15-2011, 04:36 PM
How crappy do you have to be to make Carl and Herm look ok

durtyrute
12-15-2011, 04:37 PM
I FUCKING HATE PIOLI. I don't care who he's drafted in the past or who he will draft in th future. I want him gone. He gets this rep as some super scout, but we don't even know who was responsible for what pick. Berry was on Haley and T Jack was Pioli, other than that no one knows. If he is such a great scout, then go back to being one.

edit, I forgot about Stanzicity and Mo town

O.city
12-15-2011, 04:37 PM
This shit is getting comical.

FFS guys Haleys gone, move on from that shit and lets fix this god damn thing.

durtyrute
12-15-2011, 04:38 PM
This shit is getting comical.

FFS guys Haleys gone, move on from that shit and lets fix this god damn thing.

but I miss Herm

mikeyis4dcats.
12-15-2011, 04:41 PM
I will say this, I have a buddy who's brother works in the front office. I don't see him much, but he got us the private tour of Arrowhead a couple of years ago where I got to sit at King Carl's desk and wander Lamar's private apartment. Anyway, I digress. His comments at the time, before Haley was ever hired, that as soon as Piloi came in everything changed. Things became more secretive, more stern, etc. The donations of game balls, jerseys etc. for charity became almost non-existant.

I'm no Haley fan, but Haley was certainly not the root of the less-friendly Chiefs.

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 04:41 PM
Clark has cowed Pioli.

Mooooooooooooooooo

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/2451961/97963_Chiefs_Haley_Fired_Football.jpg

O.city
12-15-2011, 04:43 PM
I really hope Hunt came in a said this shit isn't working Scott. We are changing things up a little.


Pioli got to run this franchise like it was his Hee Man Woman Haters club and he's the president.

Hopefully that shit is over cause the guy actually seems to know about football. Save the qb position. Quit being an arrogant asshole and do the right thing.

ChiefsCountry
12-15-2011, 04:43 PM
Its all on Haley yet Pioli has that quote in War Room about this topic.

Amnorix
12-15-2011, 04:43 PM
I've heard whining for years from Patriots reporters about lack of access and stupid coaches being ultra-secretive and all that. They cry like babies. I understand why, it makes their job harder.

But seriously, as a fan, WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK? I don't care if any coach gives the media access. JUST FUCKING WIN GAMES ON SUNDAYS

I've seen nice guy coaches (Raymond Berry, who was good, and Dick McPherson, who sucked), guys who pretended to be one but were really the other (Pete Carroll), guys who were pricks (Ron Meyer), guys who were hapless deers in the headlights (Rod Rust), guys who played the media like a violin (Bill Parcells).

WIN. JUST FUCKING WIN. I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE MEDIA'S PROBLEMS. I DON'T CARE IF THEY HAVE EASY ACCESS OR NO ACCESS. WIN!!!! YOU ARE PAID TO WIN!!!! I WATCH TO SEE YOU WIN. I READ MEDIA STORIES ABOUT HOW YOU WON LAST WEEK AND HOW YOU WILL WIN NEXT WEEK.

The rest is 100% bullshit.

/rant

Amnorix
12-15-2011, 04:44 PM
I really hope Hunt came in a said this shit isn't working Scott. We are changing things up a little.


Pioli got to run this franchise like it was his Hee Man Woman Haters club and he's the president.

Hopefully that shit is over cause the guy actually seems to know about football. Save the qb position. Quit being an arrogant asshole and do the right thing.



Being nice to the media isn't a path to winning. It's as important to winning as speaking Italian. Sure, it's nice, but it doesn't mean dick.

O.city
12-15-2011, 04:45 PM
I've heard whining for years from Patriots reporters about lack of access and stupid coaches being ultra-secretive and all that. They cry like babies. I understand why, it makes their job harder.

But seriously, as a fan, WHO GIVES A FLYING ****? I don't care if any coach gives the media access. JUST ****ING WIN GAMES ON SUNDAYS

I've seen nice guy coaches (Raymond Berry, who was good, and Dick McPherson, who sucked), guys who pretended to be one but were really the other (Pete Carroll), guys who were pricks (Ron Meyer), guys who were hapless deers in the headlights (Rod Rust), guys who played the media like a violin (Bill Parcells).

WIN. JUST ****ING WIN. I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE MEDIA'S PROBLEMS. I DON'T CARE IF THEY HAVE EASY ACCESS OR NO ACCESS. WIN!!!! YOU ARE PAID TO WIN!!!! I WATCH TO SEE YOU WIN. I READ MEDIA STORIES ABOUT HOW YOU WON LAST WEEK AND HOW YOU WILL WIN NEXT WEEK.

The rest is 100% bullshit.

/rant

Oh I totally agree with you. But that shit only works when you are winnng. When you are consistently getting blown out, shits gonna change.

If Hunt did make this happen, good for him. It's about time and we will se if it lasts.

Radar Chief
12-15-2011, 04:46 PM
but I miss Herm

Well that makes one of us. ;)

O.city
12-15-2011, 04:46 PM
Being nice to the media isn't a path to winning. It's as important to winning as speaking Italian. Sure, it's nice, but it doesn't mean dick.

I see your point but you also have to realize that the media is ur route to the fans.

Like I said if you are winning the fans are fine with that, but start losing and shit goes bad.

Frosty
12-15-2011, 04:47 PM
JUST ****ING WIN GAMES ON SUNDAYS

Yeah, well, see - there's this little problem....

jd1020
12-15-2011, 04:47 PM
All Hunt is trying to do is save face and get people excited about "change" next year.

Let me know when he opens his wallet and maybe I'll believe he gives a shit.

BoneKrusher
12-15-2011, 04:48 PM
at the time i thought Carl ruined the franchise with all the aging vets he signed but looking back That Team Carl put together with DV looks pretty damn good.

i know the defense couldn't stop anyone but that offense was awesome, we'll probably never see anything close to it in KC again.













my Bad
i forgot, the Packers are coming to town this week.

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 04:48 PM
All Hunt is trying to do is save face and get people excited about "change" next year.

Let me know when he opens his wallet and maybe I'll believe he gives a shit.

A new HC is not gonna be cheap.

O.city
12-15-2011, 04:48 PM
All Hunt is trying to do is save face and get people excited about "change" next year.

Let me know when he opens his wallet and maybe I'll believe he gives a shit.

Yeah I really wish he would have opened his wallet this last offseason and bought us all those high end free agents we need.

jd1020
12-15-2011, 04:49 PM
A new HC is not gonna be cheap.

Thats because you think its going to be Fisher when everyone says the Chiefs are only going to offer half of what he'd get.

jspchief
12-15-2011, 04:50 PM
I've heard whining for years from Patriots reporters about lack of access and stupid coaches being ultra-secretive and all that. They cry like babies. I understand why, it makes their job harder.

But seriously, as a fan, WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK? I don't care if any coach gives the media access. JUST FUCKING WIN GAMES ON SUNDAYS

I've seen nice guy coaches (Raymond Berry, who was good, and Dick McPherson, who sucked), guys who pretended to be one but were really the other (Pete Carroll), guys who were pricks (Ron Meyer), guys who were hapless deers in the headlights (Rod Rust), guys who played the media like a violin (Bill Parcells).

WIN. JUST FUCKING WIN. I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE MEDIA'S PROBLEMS. I DON'T CARE IF THEY HAVE EASY ACCESS OR NO ACCESS. WIN!!!! YOU ARE PAID TO WIN!!!! I WATCH TO SEE YOU WIN. I READ MEDIA STORIES ABOUT HOW YOU WON LAST WEEK AND HOW YOU WILL WIN NEXT WEEK.

The rest is 100% bullshit.

/rant

That's just it. When you're winning no one cares. You can do whatever.

When you're losing, it leads to rumor and speculation about what's dysfunctional.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-15-2011, 04:51 PM
LOL and you all think a real coach wants to come into this mess.

Amnorix
12-15-2011, 04:51 PM
Oh I totally agree with you. But that shit only works when you are winnng. When you are consistently getting blown out, shits gonna change.

Around here, the media learned that nobody gives a damn about them. If Belichick wins the media can go to hell. They got that message loud and clear.

But you're right that losing means no slack from the media, and maybe the fans start to wonder if the media isn't right about whatever they're crying about.

The media is NOT right. They are not part of the process of winning. They are irrelevant to the entire question.

If Hunt did make this happen, good for him. It's about time and we will se if it lasts.


Not "good for him." More "who gives a damn." Making the Chiefs media-friendly doesn't help the product on the field. Not one damn bit. You might as well congratulate Hunt for giving the parking attendants on game day a raise. Maybe it's nice, but it means nothing in terms of winning/losing.

Amnorix
12-15-2011, 04:52 PM
That's just it. When you're winning no one cares. You can do whatever.

When you're losing, it leads to rumor and speculation about what's dysfunctional.


Terry Francona is a really nice guy. He ran a pretty open ship and was great with the media. Did they cut him more slack because of that, maybe. But there's still plenty of rumor and speculation about what's dysfunctional IF YOU'RE LOSING.

That crap is 100%...no, 1,000%....media-driven bullshit.

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 04:53 PM
LOL and you all think a real coach wants to come into this mess.

This isn't a mess.

We need a QB.

Amnorix
12-15-2011, 04:54 PM
I see your point but you also have to realize that the media is ur route to the fans.

Like I said if you are winning the fans are fine with that, but start losing and shit goes bad.


Wasn't Herm media friendly? Didn't the shit go bad anyway?

The "openness to the media" thing means NOTHING to anyone other than the media. Fans have no reason to care. The media uses the fan base to put pressure on the team to make their lives easier. Why should any fan give a crap?

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-15-2011, 04:54 PM
This isn't a mess.

We need a QB.

Dude when you are locking the media out from taking a piss there is something wrong.

htismaqe
12-15-2011, 04:55 PM
That is one theory, another one might be that Clark told Pioli to change the crap and start treating the media and fans with respect.

Another is that Romeo insisted that it stop, too.

The thing is, there's a couple dozen reasons to change their behavior but no way to spin it, doing it now points EVERY finger at Scott Pioli.

durtyrute
12-15-2011, 04:55 PM
810 has always done a great job of sucking Pioli off. For that matter so has Nutbag Fescoe on 610. Fuck, I hate Fescoe.






And Pioli

O.city
12-15-2011, 04:55 PM
Wasn't Herm media friendly? Didn't the shit go bad anyway?

The "openness to the media" thing means NOTHING to anyone other than the media. Fans have no reason to care. The media uses the fan base to put pressure on the team to make their lives easier. Why should any fan give a crap?

I was just saying that's our way to hear whats going on with the team. But I get what you are saying and agree.

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 04:56 PM
Another is that Romeo insisted that it stop, too.

The thing is, there's a couple dozen reasons to change their behavior but no way to spin it, doing it now points EVERY finger at Scott Pioli.

Now someone is going to take his Cassel from him. :deevee:

Fruit Ninja
12-15-2011, 04:56 PM
Lol, they are now realizing what an epic fuck up this has been on their part imo. They are trying to change things up. The Patriots way is geting lucky and finding a Tom Brady qb.

There's no fucking method to it. Get one of the best qb's to ever play the game and reap the fucking rewards.!

htismaqe
12-15-2011, 04:57 PM
Being nice to the media isn't a path to winning. It's as important to winning as speaking Italian. Sure, it's nice, but it doesn't mean dick.

Locking them IN and making them get an escort to take a PISS doesn't have a god damn thing to do with winning.

O.city
12-15-2011, 04:57 PM
Around here, the media learned that nobody gives a damn about them. If Belichick wins the media can go to hell. They got that message loud and clear.

But you're right that losing means no slack from the media, and maybe the fans start to wonder if the media isn't right about whatever they're crying about.

The media is NOT right. They are not part of the process of winning. They are irrelevant to the entire question.




Not "good for him." More "who gives a damn." Making the Chiefs media-friendly doesn't help the product on the field. Not one damn bit. You might as well congratulate Hunt for giving the parking attendants on game day a raise. Maybe it's nice, but it means nothing in terms of winning/losing.

I was saying good for Hunt more if he came down on Pioli. I really could care less about the media.

O.city
12-15-2011, 04:58 PM
Now someone is going to take his Cassel from him. :deevee:

Really the more shit that comes out and the more things that are happening leads me to slightly beleive Cassel is done in KC.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-15-2011, 04:59 PM
It is sad that the team can bash haley but haley cant say 1 word or he is out 5 million.

DaWolf
12-15-2011, 04:59 PM
Who cares. The bathrooms were unlocked for 35 years and this franchise still didn't win jack.

I am very unsympathetic to a guy who talks sports for a living complaining about having to get a key for the bathroom...

jd1020
12-15-2011, 04:59 PM
I was saying good for Hunt more if he came down on Pioli. I really could care less about the media.

Some day people will learn how to properly use this saying.

O.city
12-15-2011, 05:02 PM
I could really care less?


Is that how?

ChiefGator
12-15-2011, 05:02 PM
I see your point but you also have to realize that the media is ur route to the fans.

This.

I used to listen to all the pressers until I realized they weren't ever saying anything useful. It helps team allegiance when fans are logging on every couple days and tuning into the team. When you learn to turn out everyday of the week except Sunday, it becomes even easier to write them off completely.

BoneKrusher
12-15-2011, 05:03 PM
Really the more shit that comes out and the more things that are happening leads me to slightly beleive Cassel is done in KC.

from a lot of the stuff i've read it sounds like Clark has about seen enough from Pioli and told him to put his money where his mouth is.

jd1020
12-15-2011, 05:03 PM
I could really care less?


Is that how?

Yes, thats how. :clap:

:rolleyes:

HemiEd
12-15-2011, 05:03 PM
Sounds about right to me.

But it doesn't make for near as much of a conspiracy. :D

ChiefGator
12-15-2011, 05:03 PM
I could really care less?


Is that how?

You "couldn't care less", because you already care so little.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-15-2011, 05:03 PM
I'm not a sportswriter right now, I'm a fan. More specifically, I'm a Kansas City Chiefs fan. I feel hurt, lied to and angered by the news today that Todd Haley was fired.

Whether you liked the man or not, at least he wasn't phony.




Mr. Pioli,
How could you do this to a fan-base that is one of the most loyal in all of sports? You may not personally like him, but he got results didn't he? Yes, the team is 5-8 this season, but let's be honest for just a minute shall we?

The team is still churning the bottom of the roster and couldn't withstand the injuries it suffered. Haley tried his best to make it work, and halfway through the season had his team in first place; yet he's fired.

Who's fault is it that Tyler Palko is the backup quarterback on this team? Last I checked it would be your fault. In today's NFL the backup QB is one of the most important positions on a team, and it went unchecked. You know, like a long-term nose tackle and even a short-term right tackle.

Haley didn't deserve the fate he was levied today. He took a young and still rebuilding team to a division championship last year. This team is clearly on the rise and now we have no clue what direction it's going to go.

If some of the rumors turn out to be true and you hire Josh McDaniels, you will lose the trust of this fan. He has shown no ability at all to be a head coach. Lord knows he certainly never won a division title.

Personally, I don't care how you and Haley co-exist. Be professional. How would this be looked upon if two players couldn't get along? Grow up and bridge the gaps. You're running an organization and you can't even get along with someone YOU hired? This doesn't bode well for the future Scott.

I wonder how Derrick Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Jamaal Charles and other improved players feel about his firing? I wonder if it will cost the franchise Bowe now with the uncertainty looming over this team like a hazy fog in the night.

By the way, Scott, tell your boss Mr. Hunt that the Steelers - the team he keeps saying he wants to emulate - wouldn't have done something like this. They would've come together as a collective unit and been patient. Instead, we're back to square one.

I expected better out of you Scott. You better be right about all of this. If you're not, I hope you don't expect better out of me.


http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/12/15/2630909/my-open-letter

loochy
12-15-2011, 05:04 PM
I really could care less about the media.

You could? Does that mean you currently care a lot or just a little tiny bit. Your statement is kind of vague. :hmmm:

ChiefsCountry
12-15-2011, 05:04 PM
Locking them IN and making them get an escort to take a PISS doesn't have a god damn thing to do with winning.

Or making the marketing people close their blinds during practice.

O.city
12-15-2011, 05:05 PM
I couldn't care less about this.



Did I get it?

loochy
12-15-2011, 05:09 PM
I couldn't care less about this.



Did I get it?

Ah, well that's good. I'm glad you don't worry about stuff like this.

Earthling
12-15-2011, 05:09 PM
I've always maintained that if enough people pissed behind the seats they would eventually unlock the restroom doors. Good on them.

O.city
12-15-2011, 05:14 PM
Ah, well that's good. I'm glad you don't worry about stuff like this.

Man I'm gonna be a dr. I gotta learn to talk to people right.

Amnorix
12-15-2011, 05:16 PM
I couldn't care less about this.



Did I get it?


Right.

If you COULD care less, that means you care more than zero, so you COULD care less about it.

The correct phrase is "I couldn't care less", as it "I care so little about this, it's not possible for me to care less".

Most times people mistakenly say "I could care less", which is actually the exact opposite of what you mean....

Earthling
12-15-2011, 05:19 PM
Right.

If you COULD care less, that means you care more than zero, so you COULD care less about it.

The correct phrase is "I couldn't care less", as it "I care so little about this, it's not possible for me to care less".

Most times people mistakenly say "I could care less", which is actually the exact opposite of what you mean....

Now my head hurts...

DaWolf
12-15-2011, 05:20 PM
I couldn't care more or less...

KCrockaholic
12-15-2011, 05:22 PM
Right.

If you COULD care less, that means you care more than zero, so you COULD care less about it.

The correct phrase is "I couldn't care less", as it "I care so little about this, it's not possible for me to care less".

Most times people mistakenly say "I could care less", which is actually the exact opposite of what you mean....

I wish more people could understand this. People get so lazy with their proper usage of words.

Urc Burry
12-15-2011, 05:23 PM
I'm not a sportswriter right now, I'm a fan. More specifically, I'm a Kansas City Chiefs fan. I feel hurt, lied to and angered by the news today that Todd Haley was fired.

Whether you liked the man or not, at least he wasn't phony.




Mr. Pioli,
How could you do this to a fan-base that is one of the most loyal in all of sports? You may not personally like him, but he got results didn't he? Yes, the team is 5-8 this season, but let's be honest for just a minute shall we?

The team is still churning the bottom of the roster and couldn't withstand the injuries it suffered. Haley tried his best to make it work, and halfway through the season had his team in first place; yet he's fired.

Who's fault is it that Tyler Palko is the backup quarterback on this team? Last I checked it would be your fault. In today's NFL the backup QB is one of the most important positions on a team, and it went unchecked. You know, like a long-term nose tackle and even a short-term right tackle.

Haley didn't deserve the fate he was levied today. He took a young and still rebuilding team to a division championship last year. This team is clearly on the rise and now we have no clue what direction it's going to go.

If some of the rumors turn out to be true and you hire Josh McDaniels, you will lose the trust of this fan. He has shown no ability at all to be a head coach. Lord knows he certainly never won a division title.

Personally, I don't care how you and Haley co-exist. Be professional. How would this be looked upon if two players couldn't get along? Grow up and bridge the gaps. You're running an organization and you can't even get along with someone YOU hired? This doesn't bode well for the future Scott.

I wonder how Derrick Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Jamaal Charles and other improved players feel about his firing? I wonder if it will cost the franchise Bowe now with the uncertainty looming over this team like a hazy fog in the night.

By the way, Scott, tell your boss Mr. Hunt that the Steelers - the team he keeps saying he wants to emulate - wouldn't have done something like this. They would've come together as a collective unit and been patient. Instead, we're back to square one.

I expected better out of you Scott. You better be right about all of this. If you're not, I hope you don't expect better out of me.


http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/12/15/2630909/my-open-letter

1. It is Haley's fault Palko is the backup QB.
2. Not sure how we are on the rise. What good team have we beaten in the last 2 years? Maybe last years Chargers.
3. McDaniels won't be a head coach
4. Derrick Johnson is a product of Romeo Crennel
5. I'm pretty sure Dwayne Bowe is pretty happy right now
6. We drafted a NT to develop.. you can't hit every position in one draft. And Pioli brought in Gaither and Haley/Muir chose not to play him.
7. I'm sure if the steelers had this type of season out of an unproven coach he would be gone.

Earthling
12-15-2011, 05:26 PM
I wish more people could understand this. People get so lazy with their proper usage of words.

Ummm shouldn't that be 'improper' use of words? ;)

Guru
12-15-2011, 05:28 PM
Say what you really mean. I don't give a shit.

KCrockaholic
12-15-2011, 05:31 PM
Ummm shouldn't that be 'improper' use of words? ;)

:)

BWillie
12-15-2011, 05:31 PM
I ****ING HATE PIOLI. I don't care who he's drafted in the past or who he will draft in th future. I want him gone. He gets this rep as some super scout, but we don't even know who was responsible for what pick. Berry was on Haley and T Jack was Pioli, other than that no one knows. If he is such a great scout, then go back to being one.

edit, I forgot about Stanzicity and Mo town

A chimpanzee would have selected Berry. That is a no brainer pick, any GM would have pulled the trigger on that.

BossChief
12-15-2011, 05:33 PM
Well, yeah. You really cant alienate a fan base, lose a bunch of games and expect them to line up for more.

Time to de-alienate us if you want any of OUR money.

DeezNutz
12-15-2011, 05:34 PM
In case anybody was unaware, they used to lock the doors at Arrowhead so that the media had to have an ESCORT to go to the damn bathroom.

As of today, the locks are OFF.

Danny Clinkscale is speculating that they're trying to make it appear that all the secrecy was TODD HALEY'S idea.

ROFL

Clinkscale is probably 100 percent correct; under Pioli, this organization has been exponentially more embarrassing than at any point under Peterson's watch. Any fucking point.

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 05:36 PM
Clinkscale is probably 100 percent correct; under Pioli, this organization has been exponentially more embarrassing than at any point under Peterson's watch. Any fucking point.

Mostly it's the fact they haven't even come close to being a real competitor in this league.

Three years in Carl was on a clear upswing even while wasting time with guys like DeBerg and Krieg.

Not us. We're a joke. And all the Patriot Way bullshit layered on top makes us a bad joke.

Pioli constantly talks as if he knows what he's doing...as if he is some kind of guru with a great plan. Uh, no.

DeezNutz
12-15-2011, 05:38 PM
Mostly it's the fact they haven't even come close to being a real competitor in this league.

Three years in Carl was on a clear upswing even while wasting time with guys like DeBerg and Krieg.

Not us. We're a joke. And all the Patriot Way bullshit layered on top makes us a bad joke.

Pioli constantly talks as if he knows what he's doing...as if he is some kind of guru with a great plan. Uh, no.

Yep. Pioli has been completely de-skirted, and it takes an impressive True Fan to argue otherwise.

NJChiefsFan
12-15-2011, 07:11 PM
Some day people will learn how to properly use this saying.

I am glad this thread turned into a thread on "could care less." Nothing, no mispoken phrase on earth, makes me more mad than that. When you try to explain it people say "oh well thats a little much don't you think."

Also, saying I am doing good instead of well drives me up the wall.

You can't even keep correcting people because you literally would correct people 5-10 times a day just on these two phrases alone.

TRR
12-15-2011, 07:17 PM
Why does anyone care about the media? They are a bunch of idiots twisting and turning any comments around that they possibly can. I would treat them just as their profession deserves....one step above prostitution.
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Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 07:19 PM
Why does anyone care about the media? They are a bunch of idiots twisting and turning any comments around that they possibly can. I would treat them just as their profession deserves....one step above prostitution.
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I don't know about you but I enjoy being informed about things.

I also enjoy commentary, such as Whitlock's. He knew Haley and Pioli were clowns before any of us...we should have listened.

FAX
12-15-2011, 07:19 PM
That is one theory, another one might be that Clark told Pioli to change the crap and start treating the media and fans with respect.

That, I think, is a far more reasonable explanation.

Or, maybe the new marketing guy has the runs.

Of course, Gretz might have taken a crap in a potted plant which led to a modification in procedures.

FAX

Fruit Ninja
12-15-2011, 07:20 PM
IT IS Pioli's fault Matt Cassel is the QB for this team. Then nothing else matters.

FAX
12-15-2011, 07:22 PM
Right.

If you COULD care less, that means you care more than zero, so you COULD care less about it.

The correct phrase is "I couldn't care less", as it "I care so little about this, it's not possible for me to care less".

Most times people mistakenly say "I could care less", which is actually the exact opposite of what you mean....

I care.

FAX

NJChiefsFan
12-15-2011, 07:33 PM
I don't know about you but I enjoy being informed about things.

I also enjoy commentary, such as Whitlock's. He knew Haley and Pioli were clowns before any of us...we should have listened.

We had just been through Herm and 20 years of Carl. We were ready to believe and follow anyone. I made the reference before and I will again, its a lot like the state of Germany prior to Hitler.

AustinChief
12-15-2011, 07:34 PM
I don't know about you but I enjoy being informed about things.

I also enjoy commentary, such as Whitlock's. He knew Haley and Pioli were clowns before any of us...we should have listened.

If I am a member of the KC media.. I would see the change to being more "secretive" as an opportunity and not something to bitch about. I would stop being a lazy cunt and know instead that a more challenging environment gives me a greater opportunity to differentiate myself from the rest of the lazy slobs in the KC media.

Whining about it is for the inferior who expect someone to hand them everything and don't want to do any real work.

In regards to Haley, I don't have any clue how much of anything was "him" as opposed to Piloi... but I do know that the die hard Cowboys fans I know all agree with me that he is immature and hard to work with... two things I don't want in my organization. It was a bad hire by Pioli, that is squarely on him... but it happens, let's move on. If Pioli hires another coach with worse issues.. then its time for Pioli to go as well.

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 07:36 PM
We had just been through Herm and 20 years of Carl. We were ready to believe and follow anyone. I made the reference before and I will again, its a lot like the state of Germany prior to Hitler.

LMAO

That's awesome.

When does Pioli shoot himself in the head?

NJChiefsFan
12-15-2011, 07:43 PM
LMAO

That's awesome.

When does Pioli shoot himself in the head?

Once the U.S.(fans) and Russia(media) finally get into Berlin with flags of Cassel with an X on his face. Or some might say, Pioli escapes on a U-Boat to South America.

-King-
12-15-2011, 07:55 PM
That open letter is fucking embarrassing. We need to get a long term RT and NT? The backup quarterback is one of the most important players?

This guy probably wants to keep Cassel.
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King_Chief_Fan
12-15-2011, 07:58 PM
I don't know about you but I enjoy being informed about things.

I also enjoy commentary, such as Whitlock's. He knew Haley and Pioli were clowns before any of us...we should have listened.

Thinking you are informed by listening to media jackasses makes you a jackass

Brock
12-15-2011, 08:01 PM
Thinking you are informed by listening to media jackasses makes you a jackass

In this case, Whitlock was, well, RIGHT.

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 08:08 PM
Thinking you are informed by listening to media jackasses makes you a jackass

Sure was nice to know Haley was getting fired a month ago.

Marcellus
12-15-2011, 08:08 PM
In this case, Whitlock was, well, RIGHT.

If I remember correctly Whitlock liked Haley and put all blame on Pioli.

crossbow
12-15-2011, 08:11 PM
~ raises hand ~

Mr. Pioli may I use the rest room please?

Pioli "Yes, of course."
"Security, will you escort Crossbow to the lavatory before and after you conduct a full cavity search?"

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 08:13 PM
If I remember correctly Whitlock liked Haley and put all blame on Pioli.

He wrote an article in 2009 titled "Haley is failing Chiefs players."

He's more critical of Pioli, though.

Brock
12-15-2011, 08:13 PM
If I remember correctly Whitlock liked Haley and put all blame on Pioli.

hes a fatally flawed head football coach. Hes insecure, mean-spirited, emotional and irrational.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/kansas-city-chiefs-are-legit-but-coach-todd-haley-is-a-fraud-010311

Sounds pretty accurate in hindsight to me.

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 08:16 PM
Wow, Whitlock nailed that.

I've been checking his FOX Sports page for three days now. Would like to read his Haley obit.

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 08:19 PM
boom

Self-made football people who worked from the bottom up (Pioli, Weis) bring out Haley’s insecurity. A day or two after the Chiefs hired Weis last January, I wrote a column in the Kansas City Star explaining in significant detail why the Weis-Haley marriage would be short-lived.

Two days before Sunday’s Raiders-Chiefs clash, word leaked that Weis was taking his talents to the University of Florida as offensive coordinator.

It’s my belief that Haley left Weis no choice but to leave. Haley is too insecure to work in a professional manner with confident, competent people for an extended time.

I didn’t think much of Charlie Weis as a college coach. But there’s no denying the man knows how to design game plans and call plays in the NFL. He’s arguably the best in the business. Haley put handcuffs on Weis with constant interference and game-day stupidity.

Sannyasi
12-15-2011, 08:20 PM
Pioli's big fuck-up was trading for Cassel. Nothing else matters, I don't need any other reasons to hate him, and I don't need the same people who were licking Cassel's taint last season to tell me what an asshole Pioli is all of a sudden. Pardon me for not giving a fuck. Danny Clinkscale can give himself a bleach enema.

htismaqe
12-15-2011, 08:21 PM
Why does anyone care about the media? They are a bunch of idiots twisting and turning any comments around that they possibly can. I would treat them just as their profession deserves....one step above prostitution.
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I don't know that I "care" about the media.

I definitely CARE that this organization seems more pre-occupied with dissing the local media than winning...

FAX
12-15-2011, 08:22 PM
I don't know that I "care" about the media.

I definitely CARE that this organization seems more pre-occupied with dissing the local media than winning...

Pioli is a detail person. He can do both.

FAX

memyselfI
12-15-2011, 08:24 PM
The Chiefs are trying to hire a head coach. Presumably one who wants to establish good will with the media and fans. It makes COMPLETE sense that whatever constraints may have been in place with a loose canon rookie might well be lifted for a coaching search. Especially if they are trying to hire an experienced coach.

htismaqe
12-15-2011, 08:29 PM
The Chiefs are trying to hire a head coach. Presumably one who wants to establish good will with the media and fans. It makes COMPLETE sense that whatever constraints may have been in place with a loose canon rookie might well be lifted for a coaching search. Especially if they are trying to hire an experienced coach.

ROFL

So all of these safeguards and smokescreens were put in place from DAY ONE to protect the image of the franchise from damage by a "loose cannon rookie" head coach?

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

That's quite possibly the dumbest football take I've ever seen.

Marcellus
12-15-2011, 08:39 PM
ROFL

So all of these safeguards and smokescreens were put in place from DAY ONE to protect the image of the franchise from damage by a "loose cannon rookie" head coach?

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

That's quite possibly the dumbest football take I've ever seen.

No telling what Haley may have told a reporter had they ended up inthe bathroom together.
LMAO

Count Alex's Losses
12-15-2011, 08:41 PM
No telling what Haley may have told a reporter had they ended up inthe bathroom together.
LMAO

"Foot-tapping scandal rocks Haley, Chiefs"

durtyrute
12-15-2011, 08:51 PM
I'm not a sportswriter right now, I'm a fan. More specifically, I'm a Kansas City Chiefs fan. I feel hurt, lied to and angered by the news today that Todd Haley was fired.

Whether you liked the man or not, at least he wasn't phony.




Mr. Pioli,
How could you do this to a fan-base that is one of the most loyal in all of sports? You may not personally like him, but he got results didn't he? Yes, the team is 5-8 this season, but let's be honest for just a minute shall we?

The team is still churning the bottom of the roster and couldn't withstand the injuries it suffered. Haley tried his best to make it work, and halfway through the season had his team in first place; yet he's fired.

Who's fault is it that Tyler Palko is the backup quarterback on this team? Last I checked it would be your fault. In today's NFL the backup QB is one of the most important positions on a team, and it went unchecked. You know, like a long-term nose tackle and even a short-term right tackle.

Haley didn't deserve the fate he was levied today. He took a young and still rebuilding team to a division championship last year. This team is clearly on the rise and now we have no clue what direction it's going to go.

If some of the rumors turn out to be true and you hire Josh McDaniels, you will lose the trust of this fan. He has shown no ability at all to be a head coach. Lord knows he certainly never won a division title.

Personally, I don't care how you and Haley co-exist. Be professional. How would this be looked upon if two players couldn't get along? Grow up and bridge the gaps. You're running an organization and you can't even get along with someone YOU hired? This doesn't bode well for the future Scott.

I wonder how Derrick Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Jamaal Charles and other improved players feel about his firing? I wonder if it will cost the franchise Bowe now with the uncertainty looming over this team like a hazy fog in the night.

By the way, Scott, tell your boss Mr. Hunt that the Steelers - the team he keeps saying he wants to emulate - wouldn't have done something like this. They would've come together as a collective unit and been patient. Instead, we're back to square one.

I expected better out of you Scott. You better be right about all of this. If you're not, I hope you don't expect better out of me.


http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/12/15/2630909/my-open-letter

This is exactly how I feel about the situation

Brock
12-15-2011, 08:53 PM
I wonder if it will cost the franchise Bowe now with the uncertainty looming over this team like a hazy fog in the night.

I'm hearing quite the opposite.

crossbow
12-15-2011, 08:54 PM
ROFL

So all of these safeguards and smokescreens were put in place from DAY ONE to protect the image of the franchise from damage by a "loose cannon rookie" head coach?

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

That's quite possibly the dumbest football take I've ever seen.

They were protecting the "secret family recipe" of winning in the NFL from those other teams. You know, those losers that DIDN'T get lucky drafting a QB in the 6th round and instead took one in the 1st round. Who, by the way, the ones that picked right are in the playoffs every year.

htismaqe
12-15-2011, 08:54 PM
"Foot-tapping scandal rocks Haley, Chiefs"

He might piss on his pant leg!

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIFtSdtBo1xjjbfz1S0LbQVWAAcBwxNBq93bEE3H535WSdQgmC

DaWolf
12-15-2011, 08:57 PM
OK, I don't even get why we're arguing whether Pioli or Haley locked the bathrooms. They probably had more important things to worry about. I blame this situation on Brandon Hamilton, Director of Facilities...

Marcellus
12-15-2011, 08:58 PM
I'm hearing quite the opposite.

I saw something about Bowe and Haley getting into it at practice and Pioli having Larry Fitzgerald call Bowe to calm him down which is interesting since by allaccounts LF loves Haley.

Anyway they said that was the final straw.

I think it fits the Haley was done with it all theory.

crossbow
12-15-2011, 09:00 PM
We are talking about it becuase it is rediculous in the first place. Who the hell is going to hide a gun under the toilet so Michael Corleone can use it to revenge Carl Peterson later over an Italian dinner?

htismaqe
12-15-2011, 09:02 PM
We are talking about it becuase it is rediculous in the first place. Who the hell is going to hide a gun under the toilet so Michael Corleone can use it to revenge Carl Peterson later over an Italian dinner?

Actually, what is ridiculous is that they change all of these things immediately after firing Haley.

The FO is in full CYA mode.

crossbow
12-15-2011, 09:08 PM
Actually, what is ridiculous is that they change all of these things immediately after firing Haley.

The FO is in full CYA mode.

And this board thinks they don't care about fan opinion. Fannys in the seats = money in the bank. These guys are circling the wagons.

crossbow
12-15-2011, 09:10 PM
Ok kids let this be a lesson. If you hide everything you do then you face a lot of speculation when things go wrong and it all could point back to you (right or wrong).

htismaqe
12-15-2011, 09:18 PM
Ok kids let this be a lesson. If you hide everything you do then you face a lot of speculation when things go wrong and it all could point back to you (right or wrong).

That's an EXCELLENT point.

Demonpenz
12-15-2011, 11:56 PM
I could care less about the situation, which means exactly what it means, I care enough to click on the thread, but not enough to get informed, so I will just just say that we should have drafted Aaron Rodgers

aturnis
12-16-2011, 12:41 AM
1. It is Haley's fault Palko is the backup QB.
2. Not sure how we are on the rise. What good team have we beaten in the last 2 years? Maybe last years Chargers.
3. McDaniels won't be a head coach
4. Derrick Johnson is a product of Romeo Crennel
5. I'm pretty sure Dwayne Bowe is pretty happy right now
6. We drafted a NT to develop.. you can't hit every position in one draft. And Pioli brought in Gaither and Haley/Muir chose not to play him.
7. I'm sure if the steelers had this type of season out of an unproven coach he would be gone.



1. I'm sure if Haley knew he wasn't going to rely on Stanzi to be the backup in his rookie year, he let Pioli know he wanted a vet fairly early on.

2. You really want to act like this team isn't a QB away from being competative?

3. Actually he has as much a chance of anyone. Cowher, Gruden and Fischer won't be here. Ferentz is pretty iffy if you ask me. McDaniels is the only guy consistently talked about for a reason.

4. No. He's not. Haley benched him. Haley made him learn the playbook and stop depending on his athleticism. Freelancing never did DJ any good.

5. Even though Bowe and Haley were in a tiff, after what Haley's done for Bowe, I'm sure it's a little bitter sweet.

6. You mean BJ Raji? That is most likely who Haley wanted over Tyson Jackson. Also, Gaither either didn't want to play RT, and if he did, he couldn't. Otherwise he'd still be in Baltimore.

7. Think so? How many coaches have the Steelers had since 1933? 16. Things haven't always been rainbows and unicorns for them either, they just give things a chance to improve.

Oh yeah. Not only is Pioli responsible for Tyson Jackson, but if it weren't for Haley, the Chiefs wouldn't have that Urc Berry guy you've named yourself after.

Count Alex's Losses
12-16-2011, 12:49 AM
McDaniels is the only guy consistently talked about for a reason.

LMAO

PEOPLE.

Get it through your thick skulls.

McDaniels is not coming here.

I'm as sure about this as I was about Haley.

Count Alex's Losses
12-16-2011, 12:52 AM
By the way, it should be pointed out that BJ Raji is actually having a terrible year. He's 4th worst in run defense rankings.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2qukwbc.jpg

There's no question Jackson is the better player at this point.

BossChief
12-16-2011, 12:57 AM
By the way, it should be pointed out that BJ Raji is actually having a terrible year. He's 4th worst in run defense rankings.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2qukwbc.jpg

There's no question Jackson is the better player at this point.

damn, there goes that.

Kinda shocked to see the other Tyson on there, too.

Can you please post Brian "toilet brush" Orakpos grades.

Id like to see if Im right on that one, too.

aturnis
12-16-2011, 12:58 AM
That open letter is ****ing embarrassing. We need to get a long term RT and NT? The backup quarterback is one of the most important players?

This guy probably wants to keep Cassel.
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Really? I think the letter was a hugely surprising, nail on the head read for me. I blame Pioli. 100%. You can only push a guy so far, and Pioli pushed Haley too far, so Haley fought back. You might think that is embarrassing, but if you wouldn't do the same, then you are a coward.

Haley has been right more often than not, and even when he was embarrassingly wrong at the end of this season, we find that it was most likely all a ruse. Haley cut of his nose, to spite his face. Thing is, he was right.

The other funny thing is, that every talks about how "unprepared" this team has been multiple times. Most times, that has been on Romeos watch, not Haley's. The defense has given up TONS of points in embarrassing losses. Not Haley's offense. True, the offense didn't help, but maybe that was by design somewhat also.

Haley was pissed he didn't get credit for Cassel's success last year. Then he has to deal with most of our draft picks being defensive guys when this offense has been in obvious need help since he got here. Now Pioli knows just how far this custom built defense will get the team without a QB, or offense to compliment it.

Count Alex's Losses
12-16-2011, 01:00 AM
damn, there goes that.

Kinda shocked to see the other Tyson on there, too.

Can you please post Brian "toilet brush" Orakpos grades.

Id like to see if Im right on that one, too.

Orakpo is a beast, sorry. He has more pressures this year than Hali.

Phobia
12-16-2011, 01:01 AM
Sure was nice to know Haley was getting fired a month ago.

Really? You're really doing an "I told you so" after that abortion of a thread?

aturnis
12-16-2011, 01:01 AM
By the way, it should be pointed out that BJ Raji is actually having a terrible year. He's 4th worst in run defense rankings.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2qukwbc.jpg

There's no question Jackson is the better player at this point.

How were his first couple years? We don't know how healthy he is. We'll see in the future, which BJ is the real BJ I guess.

BossChief
12-16-2011, 01:01 AM
Orakpo is a beast, sorry. He has more pressures this year than Hali.

Sweet, I was right then.

You may have misunderstood the meaning of my post.

He was my top choice in that draft.

Mecca eats shit, yet again.

Thanks....but what are his grades?

Count Alex's Losses
12-16-2011, 01:04 AM
How were his first couple years? We don't know how healthy he is. We'll see in the future, which BJ is the real BJ I guess.

He was kinda average his rookie year. Last year he got all his points from pass rush.

I don't fault the Chiefs for passing at all.

But there were still better picks than TJ.

SenselessChiefsFan
12-16-2011, 05:41 AM
It is sad that the team can bash haley but haley cant say 1 word or he is out 5 million.

He managed to say a couple last night.

Oh, and when did the Chiefs bash Haley?

SenselessChiefsFan
12-16-2011, 05:59 AM
1. I'm sure if Haley knew he wasn't going to rely on Stanzi to be the backup in his rookie year, he let Pioli know he wanted a vet fairly early on.

2. You really want to act like this team isn't a QB away from being competative?

3. Actually he has as much a chance of anyone. Cowher, Gruden and Fischer won't be here. Ferentz is pretty iffy if you ask me. McDaniels is the only guy consistently talked about for a reason.

4. No. He's not. Haley benched him. Haley made him learn the playbook and stop depending on his athleticism. Freelancing never did DJ any good.

5. Even though Bowe and Haley were in a tiff, after what Haley's done for Bowe, I'm sure it's a little bitter sweet.

6. You mean BJ Raji? That is most likely who Haley wanted over Tyson Jackson. Also, Gaither either didn't want to play RT, and if he did, he couldn't. Otherwise he'd still be in Baltimore.

7. Think so? How many coaches have the Steelers had since 1933? 16. Things haven't always been rainbows and unicorns for them either, they just give things a chance to improve.

Oh yeah. Not only is Pioli responsible for Tyson Jackson, but if it weren't for Haley, the Chiefs wouldn't have that Urc Berry guy you've named yourself after.

1) So you admit that Palko is likely Haley's guy.

2) Team was competetive with Cassel. (4-4 prior to injury) Now, were they playoff contenders? Meh. Team still has building to do.

3) I don't know that he gets a head coaching job here, but yes, he will be a head coach again in the NFL. He is 35. He has a long time ahead of him. Few people have risen as far and as fast as he has.

4) Haley did bench him. But, why? Haley didn't want Tyson Jackson, supposedly. He wanted the BPA. Most thought that was Curry. Could he have been benching DJ to prove a point to Pioli? I would have originally said no way, but with as childish as he has been this year.... maybe. I don't know that Haley can take credit for DJ's improvement. You could argue it either way.

5) Yeah, Bowe looks great this year. Heck, and I am sure not talking about importing women is all on Pioli. I mean, he IS the one that insists on secrecy.

6) BJ Raji wasn't considered the BPA at the time the Chiefs drafted Tyson Jackson. No one can know for sure. And, Gaither came in underweight in Baltimore after coming off an injury. Many, many offensive lines are shuffled to put the best five players on the field. If that meant moving Albert to RT, then they should have done that. Another example of Haley being inflexible and unable to adapt.

7) I don't know how Haley would have fared in Pittsburg. I don't know if he would have been hired. I do think he would have been let go if he acted as much like a child as he did here. Whether or not Pioli was a good boss, Haley acted very immature and should be gone for that reason alone.

Oh, and if we are going to blame Pioli for forcing Tyson Jackson on Haley, how can anyone argue that the next year Pioli gave in to getting Eric Berry?

I mean, if Pioli is the control freak that this board thinks..... that just doesn't fit.


If you want to say that Pioli picked TJax, and Haley picked Berry, then that would seem to indicate that Pioli at least tried to work with Haley and that Haley's opinion was considered and not just disregarded as some on here claim.

I just don't understand how so many people can have it both ways?

memyselfI
12-16-2011, 06:54 AM
ROFL

So all of these safeguards and smokescreens were put in place from DAY ONE to protect the image of the franchise from damage by a "loose cannon rookie" head coach?

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

That's quite possibly the dumbest football take I've ever seen.

Not so much a football take but a management 101 take.

bevischief
12-16-2011, 07:01 AM
but I miss Herm

shutup.

Setsuna
12-16-2011, 08:09 AM
Being nice to the media isn't a path to winning. It's as important to winning as speaking Italian. Sure, it's nice, but it doesn't mean dick.
Hey! I have Rosetta Stone Italian. It IS important!:cuss:

memyselfI
12-16-2011, 08:50 AM
But being nice to the media IS a way to winning them and thereby cementing a good relationship with the fans...

at least for awhile.

Look, what is clear is that both parties are at fault. Pioli did not want Haley as his first choice and undoubtedly had a short fuse for his crap thus likely was not going to invest a great deal of trust and/or personal reputation into him as coach.

Haley knowing that he was sloppy seconds wasn't going to let that stop him from wasting a wonderful first opportunity and decided to go balls on with Pioli and was unpredictable, unbalanced, and, to Pioli, untrustworthy.

They were a bad combustible combination which fueled pettiness, mistrust, and sabotage. I'm quite sure it went both ways. The only reason I side slightly with Pioli is that I don't blame him for never really trusting Haley after it became apparent he was going to give him good reason NOT TO.

And whatever faults Pioli has, and there are many, Haley WORKED FOR PIOLI NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

Chiefnj2
12-16-2011, 08:56 AM
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan View Post
It is sad that the team can bash haley but haley cant say 1 word or he is out 5 million.


Must suck to be him to get 5 million for 1 year and not have to actually work. Nobody forced him to sign any agreement that barred him from speaking his mind.

memyselfI
12-16-2011, 09:04 AM
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan View Post
It is sad that the team can bash haley but haley cant say 1 word or he is out 5 million.


Must suck to be him to get 5 million for 1 year and not have to actually work. Nobody forced him to sign any agreement that barred him from speaking his mind.

I'd STFU for 5 million. :D

htismaqe
12-16-2011, 09:19 AM
Not so much a football take but a management 101 take.

And it's still dumb.

Believing that Todd Haley was responsible for the "close your blinds" mandate or the lock on the media room door is DUMB.

Wake up!

htismaqe
12-16-2011, 09:21 AM
I just don't understand how so many people can have it both ways?

Because it is both ways.

Haley was a crazy crybaby in way over his head.

And Pioli is an egomaniac that thinks the way he did it in New England is the only way to do it.

Halfcan
12-16-2011, 12:00 PM
I am surprised they don't charge the media a Full price ticket to get in then another charge for parking. Times are tough at Arrowhead, Clark is down to One hundred million in his checking account.

whoman69
12-16-2011, 01:56 PM
It used to be all coaches wanted to be GMs so they could decide which players were going to be on the roster. That didn't work out then because the coach did not have their mind fully on their coaching duties. Now it seems that GMs like Pioli want to be the coach too even though they have no idea what goes on in practice or the locker room. The GM decided the defensive scheme. The GM made sure his QB was solid in the job with no competition. The GM failed to do his job by getting the depth on this team that was needed.

Haley haters want to have it both ways. They can site how Haley didn't work well with his micromanaging boss and then point out how Haley didn't get along with his OCs, coaches forced on him by the GM. If I'm a HC I want coaches who will share my philosophy. If my coaches don't even buy into what I'm selling, why should the players? Haley didn't feel that Chan would call the gameplan he wanted. Weis was brought in and gets all the credit for making Cassel better. Evil Todd chased him off. Then it comes out that Weis wouldn't even work with Cassel anymore. If he's not doing his job then he should be chased off. That means Weis was pushing back against Pioli with Haley in the middle. Weis made the situation worse.

So we have a GM trying to decide who plays, what the scheme is and who the coaches are going to be. I wonder how many head coaches are going to thrive in that environment.

King_Chief_Fan
12-16-2011, 02:01 PM
Sure was nice to know Haley was getting fired a month ago.

you didn't have to read that from a hack to know that was going to happen

Hydrae
12-16-2011, 02:04 PM
Such an erudite bunch we have here. :D

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-16-2011, 02:06 PM
Pioli is an incompetent buffoon, so it stands to reason that he'd hire another incompetent fool to coach his team. This isn't an either/or situation.

Count Alex's Losses
12-16-2011, 02:21 PM
you didn't have to read that from a hack to know that was going to happen

LMAO

Really? People here were swearing up and down it wasn't going to happen.

Demonpenz
12-16-2011, 02:28 PM
LMAO at the caller

Keitzman: Lets go to Brad out in OP Brad your on with BTL
Brad: Yeah...hello
Keitzman: Yea brad you are on with BTL go head
Brad: Hello hello
Klingscale: Brad do you have your radio on? You have to turn your radio down
Brad: Hold on
Keitzman: Lets put brad on hold and go to Greg..Greg go ahead!
Greg: hello
Keitzman:go ahead Greg!
Greg: Yeah hello, love your show
Klingscale: Thank you
Greg: What about the possiblity of bringing a power back in and playing defense, the 90's chiefs seemed to be pretty good. I will listen off the air.
Kietzman: You know that worked then and it was the glory years, but the nfl has changed man, now you have passers passing the ball "I tell you what Danny, Would that work today?"
Klinscale "Well I don't know Kietz, but I tell you what, that crowd is aweful quiet on sunday, and I don't know ANYONE that is going to play Quarterback for KC at this point in time"
Kietzman: Yeah, at this point mine as well try to bring in El Roberson!
(Jake in the control room): Kietzman atleast he would provide a running game

Kietzman, Klingscale, Jake in the control room chuckle.

Demonpenz
12-16-2011, 02:32 PM
Kietzman: Lets go to Mike in Independence you are on BTL!
Mike: Hello......*static* hello
Kietzman: Go ahead mike
Mike: Yeah, have you had a look at the Oklahoma linebacker? he is pretty darn good and smart, our guys seem to jump offsides alot, the kid down at Oklahoma reminds me of Brian Bozworth.
Kietzman: Well I don't watch alot of Oklahoma football, but if you are comparing him to Brian Bozworth he must be good. Danny?
Kingscale: Well Mike the guy you are talking about is a 2nd round pick AT BEST, and I don't know any Linebacker That would want to come to KC and play for this system.
Kietzman: Hey Danny...did you ever have a Brian Bozworth Poster?
Danny: ummm no...I was 34 when he was drafted by the Seahawks
(Jake in the control room) I had the Wizard of Boz poster in my dormroom
KIETZMAN: GET OUT JAKE ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THAT IS GREAT!
(Jake in the control room) yep I did, right next to the Canseco and Mcgwire bash Brothers poster.
Kietzman: UNBELIEVEABLE.

Demonpenz
12-16-2011, 02:34 PM
Kietzman: Alright back to Brad! Brad you are on BTL
Brad: Hello?
Kietzman: Go ahead Brad
Brad: Hello, yes I have been waiting on hold for an hour I just want to ask you about *hangs up on accident*
Kietzman: well....it looks like we lost brad
(Jake in the control room) It sounds like Brad needs a new cell phone!

Kietzman: I KNOW RIGHT? UNBELIEVEABLE!

Kietzman and Jake in the control room laugh

NJChiefsFan
12-16-2011, 02:36 PM
LMAO

Really? People here were swearing up and down it wasn't going to happen.

There are also people here swearing up and down that we will get McDaniels and those swearing we won't.

I think the majority of people realized Todd wasn't going to survive it. Maybe the guy had an inside source, but its a pretty reasonable guess and the pay off is people believing you have inside information.

jd1020
12-16-2011, 02:36 PM
I'm missing the funny part.

Demonpenz
12-16-2011, 02:37 PM
This next segment is brought to you by Smoke and Fire. Smoke and Fire your source for smoke and fire!
Klingscale: I don't know anyone that does Smoke and/or fire better than smoke and fire.
Kietzman: I know this much, the ladies back at my house couldn't get enough, they thought it was UNBELIEVEABLE how much Smoke and fire went into the Food. Oh my Gosh, it was great
Klingscale: It is almost like they took Tom Brady and Mixed it with a Animal. That is how good it is.
Jake in the control room: Maybe a priest blessed it? Father Tom Brady...
chuckle.

HemiEd
12-16-2011, 02:39 PM
I'm missing the funny part.

Let him finish, it will come together for you.

Count Alex's Losses
12-16-2011, 02:39 PM
I think the majority of people realized Todd wasn't going to survive it.

Bullshit. LMAO

Look at this poll:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=252483&highlight=haley+fired

jd1020
12-16-2011, 02:41 PM
Let him finish, it will come together for you.

Oh. I thought it was over at the laughter part.

Eagerly waiting for the end of the tale...

HemiEd
12-16-2011, 03:25 PM
Bullshit. LMAO

Look at this poll:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=252483&highlight=haley+fired

Haley changed a lot of our opinions with his total fucking melt down and immaturity. I thought he was rock solid, and still think he would have been, had he not intentionally sabotaged the teams efforts, and embarrassed the entire organization at the end.

HemiEd
12-16-2011, 03:26 PM
Oh. I thought it was over at the laughter part.

Eagerly waiting for the end of the tale...

You don't get it? Me neither.

htismaqe
12-16-2011, 03:28 PM
You don't get it? Me neither.

Then go listen...810whb.com.

You're missing classic gems like the last caller, who said:

"Hey, how about Brian Schottenheimer for offensive coordinator?"