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KC native
12-16-2011, 03:40 PM
LMAOLMAO oh and eat a dick if repost.
http://deadspin.com/5868487/why-people-who-hate-tim-tebow-hate-tim-tebow

Tim Tebow is not an underdog. It's important to remind people of that every now and again because the established media narrative for Tebow these days is that no one ever believed in him, that he arrived on the Broncos' doorstep as an aborted three-month-old fetus and, through the power of SuperJesus, built himself up from scratch into the some kind of magical fourth quarter leper messiah. In truth, Tebow is only an underdog if you consider two factors:

1.) His throwing mechanics

2.) The fact that his new team president and head coach didn't really want him

That's what Tebow had going against him this season. If you want to turn him into football's David Eckstein because of those two things, be my guest. You'd merely be overlooking the fact that Eli Sunday here is a world-class athlete, a two-time national champion, a Heisman Trophy winner, a first round draft pick, and a fucking millionaire. You'd also be overlooking the incredible amount of fan support that Tebow has gotten from Denver fans, Christians and non-Christians alike, during his entire professional career. Any other athlete in that position would be EXPECTED to succeed. Perhaps not in such dramatic fashion, but they'd certainly be expected to play well and win games. But somehow, because this is Tebow, the narrative is HOLY SHIT! CAN YOU BELIEVE LITTLE TIMMY TEBOW HAS BEEN ABLE TO PULL THIS OFF?! IT MUST BE THE WORK OF OUR BENEVOLENT CLOUD GOD!

That kind of thinking does a disservice to both fans and to Tebow himself, who is playing well late in games ON HIS OWN, and not because Invisible Jesus is standing behind him at all times, like a pervert golf instructor helping your wife with her swing. Trust me: there are plenty of tardbillies out there who think the latter scenario is the case, as evidenced by reader Matt:

This was taken from a girl's Facebook status, if not obvious.

"Inspiring, mentally tough, full of hope and humble beyond belief! God really is using Tim Tebow. AMAZING!"

I have no problem with Tebow except for this type of annoying analysis that people feel the need to share.

That's basically the whole Tebow thing in a nutshell. No card-carrying Tebow-hater like me has that much of a problem with Tim Tebow as a person. On his own, Tebow is a fairly harmless little goody-goody. And this Broncos run has been fun to watch. I even like it when Eisen and Deion do the TEBOW chant on the postgame show. It's all the bullshit SURROUNDING Tebow that many of us can't stand. It's people like Peter King essentially saying that there's no rational explanation for Tebow's success when there are PLENTY of rational explanations for it, namely the fact that he's a first-round pick blessed with incredible athletic ability. It's political pollsters asking Iowans about Tebow in a phone survey. It's all the unnecessary dreck that comes with and ruins what Tebow is doing, like this Rick Reilly column, which is worse than pancreatic cancer.

And yes, it's also a matter of faith. I grew up in the first Golden Age of Religious Hypocrisy (we're currently living in the second), with Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart disgracing themselves because they loved pussy and skimming from the collection plate more than they loved the Lord. I am conditioned by my upbringing to regard all outward displays of faith with a healthy dose of skepticism, and I don't think that's a bad thing. History has proven time and again that the people who actively flaunt their faith usually end up being full of shit.

Tim Tebow may be the World's Most Perfect Christian. He may bless every sneeze and have successfully abstained from jerking off his whole adult life (not likely). But I've seen plenty of supposedly perfect Christians in my time that end up being the FREAKIEST FUCKERS ON EARTH, so you'll excuse me if I choose to believe that Tebow secretly watches hentai alien octopus porn when no one is looking. Here's some idiot yammering on about Tebow being a great role model for his kid. Dude, you don't KNOW Tim Tebow. "Nobody knows anybody, not that well." All you know is the Tebow brand, and that isn't enough. Seriously, how many times are people going to be suckered into the myth of the Perfect Sports Role Model?

Not only is it OK to root against Tim Tebow, it's practically your duty as cynical American. Hating on Tebow means rebelling against the same media bullshit generator that made superhumans out of the likes of Tiger Woods and Brett Favre. It's saying a gigantic FUCK YOU to anyone who thinks you're a cold-hearted, football-hating miser for not BELIEVING in Tebow. For not "enjoying the ride." For not letting go and giving in to his wily Christian charms and ability to produce rainbows in the shape of a crucifix during the fourth quarter. Hating on Tebow means subscribing to the idea that the fucker is human, which is a much more accurate and boring story than the current myth being erected.

So yeah, I hope that the Broncos lose their final three games by 30 points each and Marmalard ends up winning the division. Because even though Philip Rivers is a devout Christian, no one's gonna declare his backing into the AFC West title a miracle.

gblowfish
12-16-2011, 03:42 PM
Who cares? He's a donk. Nuff said.

Frankie
12-16-2011, 03:43 PM
Why People Who Hate Tim Tebow Hate Tim Tebow

Because they are Godless heathens.

KC native
12-16-2011, 03:44 PM
Who cares? He's a donk. Nuff said.

Yea, that's good enough for me but I thought this was hilarious so I decided to share.

HemiEd
12-16-2011, 03:45 PM
I hate him because I am already sick of hearing about him, similar to Favre. I can't wait until he comes crashing down to reality. The Bears, more specifically Marion Barber, absolutely gave him that win last week, a gift.

Demonpenz
12-16-2011, 03:46 PM
Haters going to hate.

Scorp
12-16-2011, 03:47 PM
I hate him because he is a virgin.(allegedly)

Micjones
12-16-2011, 03:53 PM
Haters going to hate.

Basically.

Nail him to the wall for his religious convictions because you don't ascribe to them. But Christian people hold the monopoly on intolerance? Tah...

I hate him for one reason only: He plays for the Denver Broncos.

Baby Lee
12-16-2011, 03:57 PM
That is a psychopathic article. He could've summed it up in one sentence.

"I hate Tim Tebow because he raises religious peoples' spirits, and I hate religious people, for no discernible reason other than a few in the past have failed to live up to their standards."

And WTF kind of logic is "you must hate Tebow with all your might to establish that he's a normal person"

Micjones
12-16-2011, 04:00 PM
That is a psychopathic article. He could've summed it up in one sentence.

"I hate Tim Tebow because he raises religious peoples' spirits, and I hate religious people, for no discernible reason other than a few in the past have failed to live up to their standards."

And WTF kind of logic is "you must hate Tebow with all your might to establish that he's a normal person"

Thread.

gblowfish
12-16-2011, 04:03 PM
This:

DBOSHO
12-16-2011, 04:08 PM
I wanted Tebow to succeed, because I believe everyone underestimated his ability to win.

I think he gets far too much credit for these last few wins. The other offense makes an incredibly stupid mistake(s) at the very end of games, he drives his team down the field for prater to kick 50+ yd fieldgoals and ESPN is on his dick for the following week.

I thought Once he found himself in the middle of a game when he had to answer score after score he would get exposed, but thats what happened in the minnesota game. Unless new englands pass defense is absolutely putrid(i wouldnt put it past them), the tebow train stops this week.

vailpass
12-16-2011, 04:12 PM
Thread.

X2

vailpass
12-16-2011, 04:15 PM
I wanted Tebow to succeed, because I believe everyone underestimated his ability to win.

I think he gets far too much credit for these last few wins. The other offense makes an incredibly stupid mistake(s) at the very end of games, he drives his team down the field for prater to kick 50+ yd fieldgoals and ESPN is on his dick for the following week.

I thought Once he found himself in the middle of a game when he had to answer score after score he would get exposed, but thats what happened in the minnesota game. Unless new englands pass defense is absolutely putrid(i wouldnt put it past them), the tebow train stops this week.

Broncos will probably be starting 3 rookies in the defensive backfield due to injured starters. IMHO even if NE's backfield is horrible it won't be much weaker than ours and NE will roll.

Mr. Laz
12-16-2011, 04:23 PM
I wanted Tebow to succeed, because I believe everyone underestimated his ability to win.
You wanted a Donk to succeed?


turn in your Fan Card :cuss:

Okie_Apparition
12-16-2011, 04:43 PM
I wish he'd drop the act
he went to the McNab school of fake

Baby Lee
12-16-2011, 04:50 PM
You wanted a Donk to succeed?


turn in your Fan Card :cuss:

I don't care whether he succeeds or not. I do find it ironic that horse face was so down on him when his act is Horse Face 2011, suck for 3 quarters and come back in the waning minutes. Not that I'm in any way comparing their talent levels.

Last night I sat down to watch The Cleveland Show on DVR and they were actually still in the middle of the waning moments of the comeback against the Bears. Watching it grinning, knowing what happened. Horse Face up in the box looking stern as the second ticked down, then jumping around like a school girl when they tied it, then won in OT.


That said, Rodgers 4Q against the Giants was INFINITELY more impressive.

58kcfan89
12-16-2011, 04:52 PM
Who cares? He's a donk. Nuff said.

I hate him because I am already sick of hearing about him, similar to Favre. I can't wait until he comes crashing down to reality. The Bears, more specifically Marion Barber, absolutely gave him that win last week, a gift.

These.

I'm a Christian & I can't stand the guy. Can't stand Rivers, either. Has literally nothing to do with their faith, has everything to do with the teams they play for and the attention they get (much of which I feel is incredibly unwarranted).

Hell, I know a Donk fan who's tired of hearing about it. And he likes Tebow.

ChiefsNow
12-16-2011, 05:06 PM
Tebow will suck this week because his supplier got busted.

Okie_Apparition
12-16-2011, 05:12 PM
Go Crack Go

Ebolapox
12-16-2011, 05:26 PM
people who use the word 'hater' are either:

1) retarded
2) preteen girls
3) retarded, preteen girls

blaise
12-16-2011, 05:40 PM
The author seems like a whiny crybaby.

Bane
12-16-2011, 05:41 PM
The only thing I hate about him is that he's a Donk.Not a Florida fan either but I don't see how you hold a guys faith and desire to win against him.

blaise
12-16-2011, 05:43 PM
And really, the only thing more tired than the Tebow hype is the millions of Jesus/Tebow jokes every time he does something. It's like every Denver game Twitter is flooded with unfunny tards trying to work in some Jesus/Tebow joke.

Al Bundy
12-16-2011, 05:43 PM
I hate him because he is a Gator.

Guru
12-16-2011, 05:45 PM
I've got a buddy who truly thinks there is some divine intervention going on with him in Denver.

Of course, when you think about it, you almost have to wonder because there is no way a team should be able to win any games with a 10 play playbook for their offense.

blaise
12-16-2011, 05:48 PM
I've got a buddy who truly thinks there is some divine intervention going on with him in Denver.

Of course, when you think about it, you almost have to wonder because there is no way a team should be able to win any games with a 10 play playbook for their offense.

That's about 9 plays more than the Chiefs successfully run.

Baby Lee
12-16-2011, 05:49 PM
That's about 9 plays more than the Chiefs successfully run.

:Bwana: - takes on a new meaning in 2011

Al Bundy
12-16-2011, 05:51 PM
I've got a buddy who truly thinks there is some divine intervention going on with him in Denver.

Of course, when you think about it, you almost have to wonder because there is no way a team should be able to win any games with a 10 play playbook for their offense.

Dino Costa firmly believes that.

orange
12-16-2011, 06:28 PM
That is a psychopathic article. He could've summed it up in one sentence.

"I hate Tim Tebow because he raises religious peoples' spirits, and I hate religious people, for no discernible reason other than a few in the past have failed to live up to their standards."

And WTF kind of logic is "you must hate Tebow with all your might to establish that he's a normal person"

Indeed. As an agnostic, I see a lot of fear in some of the anti-Tebowism. It's like a lot of people aren't sure of their non-belief and are afraid of the implications if an openly religious guy actually excels.

listopencil
12-16-2011, 06:32 PM
The author seems like a whiny crybaby.

^

listopencil
12-16-2011, 06:38 PM
Hating on Tebow means subscribing to the idea that the ****er is human, which is a much more accurate and boring story than the current myth being erected.


The whole article pretty stupid but this stands out. Hating on Tebow because he's merely human is just simple self loathing. Haters can't accept the incredible power of the human spirit because it forces them to recognize that they aren't living up to their full potential. It's a bitter pill to swallow for some people, I guess.

kysirsoze
12-16-2011, 06:44 PM
The whole article pretty stupid but this stands out. Hating on Tebow because he's merely human is just simple self loathing. Haters can't accept the incredible power of the human spirit because it forces them to recognize that they aren't living up to their full potential. It's a bitter pill to swallow for some people, I guess.

Yeah, because Tiger and Favre turned out to be deviants, suddenly it's unacceptable for people to look up to sports figures. What a stupid article.

The Rick
12-16-2011, 06:53 PM
The whole article pretty stupid but this stands out. Hating on Tebow because he's merely human is just simple self loathing. Haters can't accept the incredible power of the human spirit because it forces them to recognize that they aren't living up to their full potential. It's a bitter pill to swallow for some people, I guess.
:clap:

Guru
12-16-2011, 06:57 PM
That's about 9 plays more than the Chiefs successfully run.

that being the keyword. We run more plays than Denver though. LMAO

blaise
12-16-2011, 06:59 PM
What's sort of funny about it is it's Deadspin placing a bunch of importance on something like a Facebook comment. I don't get the sense that the media is saying Tebow is the greatest. He's claiming the media tone is that Tebow is awesome? Really? They're mostly giving him his due begrudgingly, I think. It's mostly like, "Well, he still can't throw. He probably won't last, but he's winning games." But the article is complaining that people are glorifying him, and uses a Facebook post to show that. Nothing from any media. And it doesn't mention that if you're on Twitter, or anywhere else really, the negative comments about him outnumber the positive ones. In my opinion, anyway.

You'd think Deadspin would know that stupid comments by the masses don't indicate media opinion. Deadspin themselves clowned Buzz Bissinger for not understanding that their own comments section was different than their links and articles. Yet, here they are acting like a Facebook comment means something. I mean, what is he really crying about, that there's a lot of Tebow coverage? Guess what, half of it is anti-Tebow coverage, just like the article you wrote, dumbass.
I stopped checking Deadspin every day about 7 months ago. Before that I would check it like 5 times a day. But it seems like they're just as bad as the people they used to clown.
The whole thing seems like something he wrote on his way out the door somewhere. It's basically something 25 people here could write in the middle of a thread and it would just be a mildly interesting rant.

kysirsoze
12-16-2011, 07:23 PM
What's sort of funny about it is it's Deadspin placing a bunch of importance on something like a Facebook comment. I don't get the sense that the media is saying Tebow is the greatest. He's claiming the media tone is that Tebow is awesome? Really? They're mostly giving him his due begrudgingly, I think. It's mostly like, "Well, he still can't throw. He probably won't last, but he's winning games." But the article is complaining that people are glorifying him, and uses a Facebook post to show that. Nothing from any media. And it doesn't mention that if you're on Twitter, or anywhere else really, the negative comments about him outnumber the positive ones. In my opinion, anyway.
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He's really all over the place in the article. He says he hates him because people think God's helping him win. He thinks those people aren't giving him enough credit for being an elite athlete, but then hates him for something out of his control. He also hates him for being human and having people admire him. The article is unfocused, cynical, bitter, and thinks it's way more clever than it is. I often like deadspin, but stuff like this gets annoying. Just pick the topic of the day and write an edgy contrarian piece of shit to get attention.

Dexter Manley
12-16-2011, 07:35 PM
As a libertarian American, I have no problem at all with Tim Tebow.

As a three decade fan of Vanderbilt football...

lewdog
12-16-2011, 07:45 PM
This was posted by someone else but is my exact feelings.

"If he was Muslim and praising Allah, he would be villianized by the same people that admire him for "standing up for what he believes in".

If some guy was using his hype to continually praise Allah, so many in this country would hate this guy but because so many are Christian they don't understand why people hate him for always praising God.

Hypocrites unite!!!

Garcia Bronco
12-16-2011, 07:49 PM
The whole article pretty stupid but this stands out. Hating on Tebow because he's merely human is just simple self loathing. Haters can't accept the incredible power of the human spirit because it forces them to recognize that they aren't living up to their full potential. It's a bitter pill to swallow for some people, I guess.

this needs to be quoted again.

Rain Man
12-16-2011, 07:56 PM
The best thing about Tim Tebow is that he's revealing Elway to be stupid.

Backwards Masking
12-16-2011, 08:06 PM
The best thing about Tim Tebow is that he's revealing Elway to be stupid.

Tebow is God's way of punishing Horseface for cheating the salary cap and supporting the criscoing of Denver's D Linemen.

Garcia Bronco
12-16-2011, 08:12 PM
Tebow is God's way of punishing Horseface for cheating the salary cap and supporting the criscoing of Denver's D Linemen.

LOL


GB2

KC native
12-16-2011, 08:36 PM
Some of you guys took this article way too seriously. It's more of a short rant than a serious read.

mlyonsd
12-16-2011, 08:51 PM
The best thing about Tim Tebow is that he's revealing Elway to be stupid.This is one reason why if the Chief's can't win the division I hope the donkeys do.

RJ
12-16-2011, 09:05 PM
I hate him because I am already sick of hearing about him, similar to Favre. I can't wait until he comes crashing down to reality. The Bears, more specifically Marion Barber, absolutely gave him that win last week, a gift.


What HemiEd said.

It's annoying but it won't go away until the Broncos lose a couple of games.

lewdog
12-16-2011, 09:16 PM
Some of you guys took this article way too seriously. It's more of a short rant than a serious read.

Short rant, serious read....what is the difference? It is all about how I want to hype this article, bro!

teedubya
12-16-2011, 09:17 PM
I primarily hate Tebow because he is a Bronco. I secondarily hate Tebow because he is a Florida Gator. Thirdly, I hate Tebow just because.

Okie_Apparition
12-16-2011, 09:58 PM
I kinda feel sorry for Tebow when the luck runs out
the media is going to turn on him something fierce

KCChiefsFan88
12-16-2011, 10:05 PM
The media has completely gone off the deep end with Teblow.

SI believes Teblow's celebrity status is in the same level as George Clooney and Lady Gaga. Link: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/richard_deitsch/12/16/tebow.needle/index.html?sct=nfl_t12_a1

ESPN has been doing montage clips of Teblow's life all week.

All of this for a a mediocre QB whose accomplishments in the NFL are minimal.

DomCasual
12-16-2011, 10:39 PM
Tebow is God's way of punishing Horseface for cheating the salary cap and supporting the criscoing of Denver's D Linemen.

You don't even have the story straight. It was the offensive linemen spraying stuff on themselves. Did you even watch football back then, or have you just heard about it from others?

KCChiefsFan88
12-16-2011, 11:16 PM
http://madmikesamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Jesus_wept_motivational.jpg

Digital Takawira
12-17-2011, 01:32 AM
i hate him because i'm a florida state fan and a chiefs fan. i've been in the tebow hate game for a while.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-17-2011, 01:46 AM
I like him. I'm rooting for him. I don't care what you Chiefs fans say.

Baby Lee
12-17-2011, 04:10 AM
Some of you guys took this article way too seriously. It's more of a short rant than a serious read.

For a guy who toots the racism horn at every turn, you're awfully sanguine about a 'rant' that's central premise is HATRED.

mikey23545
12-17-2011, 04:35 AM
Some of you guys took this article way too seriously. It's more of a short rant than a serious read.

So, once an article you worship has been torn to shreds in front of your eyes, it's just a short rant, not a serious read.

You cowardly little retard, you should scamper back to the hellhole of the D.C. forum that spawned you.

mikey23545
12-17-2011, 04:37 AM
I've got a buddy who truly thinks there is some divine intervention going on with him in Denver.

Of course, when you think about it, you almost have to wonder because there is no way a team should be able to win any games with a 10 play playbook for their offense.

That's about 9 plays more than the Chiefs successfully run.

Interesting....What is the one play that the Chiefs run successfully? I want to watch for it next week.

ChiefGator
12-17-2011, 06:25 AM
The media has completely gone off the deep end with Teblow.

That's why I try not to hold Tebow responsible. In college, he never said, "I'm holier than thou." and yet it was good for college football to have this icon. [And he was a helluvah college player]

Then, earlier this year, all I heard from the media was hating on Tebow. It seemed like they wanted to tear down this image.

And now, four games later, media is mostly in love with Tebow again. Someone even compared him to the Loch Ness monster.. totally unexplainable!

But, again, none of this has shit to do with Tebow himself, just a stupid media.

Pablo
12-17-2011, 06:30 AM
I like him. I'm rooting for him. I don't care what you Chiefs fans say.

That is fine. It just makes you a douchebag to root for a Broncos QB. If that's who you are then own it...

ThatRaceCardGuy
12-17-2011, 07:00 AM
I hate TeBlow because the pussy is a donk.

Dexter Manley
12-17-2011, 07:38 AM
The Bible verse under the eyes was definitely "beyond" where faith and sports should mix.

I don't think Tim has done that again. Not in the NFL. He can talk about his faith all he wants, just not for the four hours on Sunday...

Tell me everyone here would be peeved if some Charger had "stop global warming" under his eyes during a game?

The SEC Championship 2+ years ago, Tebow did take his faith too far into football, and he looked really stupid doing it. I don't think he's done that since. I think folks should let it go...

blaise
12-17-2011, 08:20 AM
This was posted by someone else but is my exact feelings.

"If he was Muslim and praising Allah, he would be villianized by the same people that admire him for "standing up for what he believes in".

If some guy was using his hype to continually praise Allah, so many in this country would hate this guy but because so many are Christian they don't understand why people hate him for always praising God.

Hypocrites unite!!!


Yeah, and a bunch of people who villianize him now would rush to his defense for his freedom of expression.

Chiefnj2
12-17-2011, 08:27 AM
He seems like a really good guy. It's not his fault the media sucks arse. There are pleny of professional athletes who thank God and do a prayer after a TD, pray after the game, etc. They don't get followed and put under a microscope like Tebow.

TrickyNicky
12-17-2011, 08:35 AM
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beach tribe
12-17-2011, 08:39 AM
Why do people who do not believe in God have such a strong negative reaction to anyone or anything Christian? It's the only intolerance supported in America.

That said, **** Tebow. He's a donk, and he was a Gator.

beach tribe
12-17-2011, 08:41 AM
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Ugh! Vomit.

Dexter Manley
12-17-2011, 08:46 AM
"Why do people who do not believe in God have such a strong negative reaction to anyone or anything Christian?"


The late Reggie White never had Bible verses under his eyes during a football game. Reggie understood that prayer before and after the game is fine, even on the center of the field, but during the game, leave religion and everything except the game out of the game...

eazyb81
12-17-2011, 08:51 AM
That is a psychopathic article. He could've summed it up in one sentence.

"I hate Tim Tebow because he raises religious peoples' spirits, and I hate religious people, for no discernible reason other than a few in the past have failed to live up to their standards."

And WTF kind of logic is "you must hate Tebow with all your might to establish that he's a normal person"

:clap:

beach tribe
12-17-2011, 08:51 AM
"Why do people who do not believe in God have such a strong negative reaction to anyone or anything Christian?"


The late Reggie White never had Bible verses under his eyes during a football game. Reggie understood that prayer before and after the game is fine, even on the center of the field, but during the game, leave religion and everything except the game out of the game...


Know what you're talking about before you speak.
Reggie was WAY out in front about Jesus, but that's before the great Christian intolerance in America began.


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Dexter Manley
12-17-2011, 08:55 AM
"Reggie was WAY out in front about Jesus"

Off the field.

On the field, he did not have a Jesus billboard on his face like Tebow did during the SEC Championship...

That's the "line" Tebow crossed...

beach tribe
12-17-2011, 09:00 AM
"Reggie was WAY out in front about Jesus"

Off the field.

On the field, he did not have a Jesus billboard on his face like Tebow did during the SEC Championship...

That's the "line" Tebow crossed...

Hey, MORAN, did you watch the video??

Chiefaholic
12-17-2011, 09:00 AM
The part of the media hype that bothers me the most is giving Tebow the majority of the credit foe the Donks wins. If it wasn't for the lights out defense, and Von Miller in particular, Tebow wouldn't even sniff a win while putting a whopping 13 points on the board.

Baby Lee
12-17-2011, 09:05 AM
"Why do people who do not believe in God have such a strong negative reaction to anyone or anything Christian?"


The late Reggie White never had Bible verses under his eyes during a football game. Reggie understood that prayer before and after the game is fine, even on the center of the field, but during the game, leave religion and everything except the game out of the game...

Reggie had a harder time understanding that a speech about homosexuality separating the US from God's good graces, followed by a treatise on how blacks are good at worship and celebration, and whites are good at organization and tapping into money, and hispanics are good at fitting 20 people into one home, and asians can turn a watch into a television, probably shouldn't be presented to a state's general assembly.

;)

Dexter Manley
12-17-2011, 09:10 AM
Hey, MORAN, did you watch the video??


When people see me sack the QB, I want them to see Jesus...


EVEN THOUGH I RESPECT FOOTBALL FANS ENOUGH TO NOT HAVE A JESUS BILLBOARD ON MY FACE EVERY TIME THE TV SHOWS MY FACE...

there... fixed.

Dexter Manley
12-17-2011, 09:12 AM
Reggie had a harder time understanding that a speech about homosexuality separating the US from God's good graces, followed by a treatise on how blacks are good at worship and celebration, and whites are good at organization and tapping into money, and hispanics are good at fitting 20 people into one home, and asians can turn a watch into a television, probably shouldn't be presented to a state's general assembly.

;)


That a football player (from the SEC, and not Vandy) said something stupid proves... what...

?????????????????????

My goodness, if we really wanted to quote every dumb football player's gaffs, we'd fill the Library of Congress quite quickly...


"I felt like banging my head on the goalpost" = Gus Frerrotte

Dexter Manley
12-17-2011, 09:15 AM
"The part of the media hype that bothers me the most is giving Tebow the majority of the credit foe the Donks wins."

Did you follow Vince Young's rookie year?

One of VY's "wins" was a game against Jax, where the TN offense had 5 first downs and a FG from a drive that originated at Jax's 10 and didn't get into the endzone. VY "won" that game, nevermind Pacman's pick six, punt return TD, and kickoff return that set up the FG...

The more hate Tebow gets, the more the media will hoot and holler every time the Doncs win with him, no matter how pathetic his "stats" are... or how ridiculous his throwing mechanics are...

Deberg_1990
12-17-2011, 09:18 AM
"The part of the media hype that bothers me the most is giving Tebow the majority of the credit foe the Donks wins."

Did you follow Vince Young's rookie year?

One of VY's "wins" was a game against Jax, where the TN offense had 5 first downs and a FG from a drive that originated at Jax's 10 and didn't get into the endzone. VY "won" that game, nevermind Pacman's pick six, punt return TD, and kickoff return that set up the FG...

The more hate Tebow gets, the more the media will hoot and holler every time the Doncs win with him, no matter how pathetic his "stats" are... or how ridiculous his throwing mechanics are...

Once the law of averages evens out (and it will eventually) In a few games, next year or the year after, the shine will fade. Unless he miraculously improves his throwing.

I like the kid, think he's a nice story, but I still don't think he's a good QB. He's a solid football player though.

Baby Lee
12-17-2011, 09:22 AM
The part of the media hype that bothers me the most is giving Tebow the majority of the credit foe the Donks wins. If it wasn't for the lights out defense, and Von Miller in particular, Tebow wouldn't even sniff a win while putting a whopping 13 points on the board.

This, in addition to the, if Barber doesn't fumble and if Barber doesn't run out of bounds, misses the point.

People are trying to figure out how a guy, ALREADY with all these 4th quarter theatrics, goes from 3-16 and 0 points through 56 minutes and 15-20 in the final 4, and some are gonna attribute aspects of faith [however you want to term the form it takes].

Ebolapox
12-17-2011, 09:49 AM
sorry, but I have to laugh about this supposed intolerance of christians. christians are 76% of the population, dude. you're concerned about a minority of vocal atheists/agnostics saying words about you? OH NO, THEY'RE MAKING FUN OF ME AND BEING INTOLERANT BECAUSE OF MY BELIEFS.

newsflash: nobody gives a fuck about your beliefs if you keep them to yourselves, which is exactly most people's issue with tebow--he's pushed down our throats, and he never shuts up about his beliefs. john 3:16 eye-black? you're a football player, man. if you were a minister, it would be different. leave religion the fuck out of it (perceived prosthelytizing) and you'd kill a LOT of the tebow hatred.

blaise
12-17-2011, 09:51 AM
sorry, but I have to laugh about this supposed intolerance of christians. christians are 76% of the population, dude. you're concerned about a minority of vocal atheists/agnostics saying words about you? OH NO, THEY'RE MAKING FUN OF ME AND BEING INTOLERANT BECAUSE OF MY BELIEFS.

newsflash: nobody gives a **** about your beliefs if you keep them to yourselves, which is exactly most people's issue with tebow--he's pushed down our throats, and he never shuts up about his beliefs. john 3:16 eye-black? you're a football player, man. if you were a minister, it would be different. leave religion the **** out of it (perceived prosthelytizing) and you'd kill a LOT of the tebow hatred.

So, you're laughing at the supposed intolerance by saying he shouldn't talk about his beliefs.
Okay.

Ebolapox
12-17-2011, 09:52 AM
So, you're laughing at the supposed intolerance by saying he shouldn't talk about his beliefs.
Okay.

no, I'm explaining that it's absurd to call it intolerance, and explaining that if it IS intolerance (I would rather call it exasperation), it's brought on by HIS actions.

self-fulfilling prophesy, if you will.

beach tribe
12-17-2011, 09:57 AM
When people see me sack the QB, I want them to see Jesus...


EVEN THOUGH I RESPECT FOOTBALL FANS ENOUGH TO NOT HAVE A JESUS BILLBOARD ON MY FACE EVERY TIME THE TV SHOWS MY FACE...

there... fixed.

Why are you so offended by what someone else believes in?
What bearing does it have on you?

blaise
12-17-2011, 10:00 AM
no, I'm explaining that it's absurd to call it intolerance, and explaining that if it IS intolerance (I would rather call it exasperation), it's brought on by HIS actions.

self-fulfilling prophesy, if you will.

His combined 14 or 15 seconds of talk or prayer pose a week really gets you that flustered? I can't imagine caring that much.
I don't even watch post game comments anyway. If you think he's going to thank God coming off the field then why bother keeping the channel there? The games over.

beach tribe
12-17-2011, 10:03 AM
no, I'm explaining that it's absurd to call it intolerance, and explaining that if it IS intolerance (I would rather call it exasperation), it's brought on by HIS actions.

self-fulfilling prophesy, if you will.

So he's supposed to do the opposite of what he believes because others are exasperated by those actions?
Sounds a lot like you want him to be a pussy.
And the pussification of America continues.

Ebolapox
12-17-2011, 10:06 AM
His combined 14 or 15 seconds of talk or prayer pose a week really gets you that flustered? I can't imagine caring that much.
I don't even watch post game comments anyway. If you think he's going to thank God coming off the field then why bother keeping the channel there? The games over.

that doesn't really bug me. the media and millions of people pimping him and his overt religion are really the killer. look, I could give a fuck less what your religion is. you believe that god is a vacuum cleaner? I could give a fuck less. just leave me alone about it. you're gay? I could give a fuck less. just leave me alone about it.

I'm a believer in live/let live. just shut up about the OMGZ HE LED THEM FROM BEHIND ITZ A MIRACLE, HAR HAR HAR JESUS LOVES TEBOW LOVES JESUS, OMG, DID YOU KNOW HES A CHRISTIAN? HE CUTS LITTLE BOYS' FORESKINS!

I don't care. I also wouldn't care if he was a muslim or a shinto. as long as he was known more as a FOOTBALL PLAYER and left his religion out of it, I AND THE 'HATERS' (what are you, teenage girls? haters? it's retarded) WOULDN'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK.

Ebolapox
12-17-2011, 10:07 AM
So he's supposed to do the opposite of what he believes because others are exasperated by those actions?
Sounds a lot like you want him to be a pussy.
And the pussification of America continues.

ROFL

that took a strange direction.

Pablo
12-17-2011, 10:13 AM
It's not so much Tebow's fault he is hated. It's the media's. But that over-saturation just grinds on you. I watched all of 10 minutes of NFL Tonight or some shit on ESPN and I bet I heard his name 25 times. Fuck. He's worse than the Dallas Cowboys when it comes to media suckage. Fucking Bronco cockbag.

beach tribe
12-17-2011, 10:14 AM
ROFL

that took a strange direction.

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vailpass
12-17-2011, 10:17 AM
So, once an article you worship has been torn to shreds in front of your eyes, it's just a short rant, not a serious read.

You cowardly little retard, you should scamper back to the hellhole of the D.C. forum that spawned you.

X2

Terribilis
12-17-2011, 11:25 AM
Well if there is one thing I have learned from all of this, God fucking hates Marion Barber.

crazychiefsfan
12-17-2011, 11:35 AM
This guy REALLY hates Tim Tebow

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Baby Lee
12-17-2011, 11:40 AM
sorry, but I have to laugh about this supposed intolerance of christians. christians are 76% of the population, dude. you're concerned about a minority of vocal atheists/agnostics saying words about you? OH NO, THEY'RE MAKING FUN OF ME AND BEING INTOLERANT BECAUSE OF MY BELIEFS.

newsflash: nobody gives a fuck about your beliefs if you keep them to yourselves, which is exactly most people's issue with tebow--he's pushed down our throats, and he never shuts up about his beliefs. john 3:16 eye-black? you're a football player, man. if you were a minister, it would be different. leave religion the fuck out of it (perceived prosthelytizing) and you'd kill a LOT of the tebow hatred.

Know what ya' mean buddy. Whatever happened to them nice confirmed bachelors like Rock Hudson. Now you got bull dykes talking back at Babba Wawwa on daytime TV and mincy twinks singing show tunes to our kids in prime time.

Get off my lawn.

Dexter Manley
12-17-2011, 11:47 AM
Why are you so offended by what someone else believes in?
What bearing does it have on you?


I care not what a football player believes in. When I watch football, I want to think about football, nothing else.

There is a difference between a football player espousing controversial views off the field, and one wearing a billboard on his face on the field.

If you cannot understand that, then the problem is with you...

Backwards Masking
12-17-2011, 12:16 PM
There is a difference between a football player espousing controversial views off the field, and one wearing a billboard on his face on the field.



I'm sure if he was quoting the Quaran or the Satanic Bible on his face all the same people on here defending the Christian quotes would hold the same opinion of Tebow and defend him just as vigorously....

Rausch
12-17-2011, 12:21 PM
This guy REALLY hates Tim Tebow

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LMAO

"Gawd nevar helps the BEARS!1!"

blaise
12-17-2011, 12:45 PM
I'm sure if he was quoting the Quaran or the Satanic Bible on his face all the same people on here defending the Christian quotes would hold the same opinion of Tebow and defend him just as vigorously....

And I'm sure if he did all the people who complain wouldn't go, "OMG That's HILARIOUS! TIM TEBOW is my favorite new player!!!! ROFL!"

Backwards Masking
12-17-2011, 01:04 PM
And I'm sure if he did all the people who complain wouldn't go, "OMG That's HILARIOUS! TIM TEBOW is my favorite new player!!!! ROFL!"

Oh, we would, for as long as we could (maybe 1-2 weeks) before Roger Goodell suspended him as a "PR Move" that's "bad for business" or a zealot flat out assasinated him.

at least if i rooted for a Satanic Tebow it wouldn't make me a Hypocrite and compromise the Faith i claim to care so much about. the way Christians rooting against him would for them and theirs.

BIG_DADDY
12-17-2011, 01:07 PM
Speaking for everyone again I see. Do you think anyone really cares why you hate Tebow? Why don't you just come out with it and say you want to feed him to the Lions? Wait a minute, that already happened.

blaise
12-17-2011, 01:13 PM
Oh, we would, for as long as we could (maybe 1-2 weeks) before Roger Goodell suspended him as a "PR Move" that's "bad for business" or a zealot flat out assasinated him.

at least if i rooted for a Satanic Tebow it wouldn't make me a Hypocrite and compromise the Faith i claim to care so much about. the way Christians rooting against him would for them and theirs.

It would make you a hypocrite, just in a different way. So, I'm not sure why that's more noble.
If some player was like, "There is no God that helped me today. There is no God," after a game, the same people complaining about Tebow would suddenly have no problem with a player shoving his beliefs in others faces.
Don't act like one side is free from hypocrisy and the other isn't. That's just pollyanna horseshit.

Backwards Masking
12-17-2011, 01:16 PM
It would make you a hypocrite, just in a different way. So, I'm not sure why that's more noble.
If some player was like, "There is no God that helped me today. There is no God," after a game, the same people complaining about Tebow would suddenly have no problem with a player shoving his beliefs in others faces.
Don't act like one side is free from hypocrisy and the other isn't. That's just pollyanna horseshit.

when hundreds of athletes around the world start blaming God for their poor play on a regular basis, you might have a point.

and actually, when you don't have a philosophy and set of rules to live by, you can't be a hypocrite and break them. it's not pollyanna horseshit, just Simple Truth.

blaise
12-17-2011, 01:22 PM
when hundreds of athletes around the world start blaming God for their poor play on a regular basis, you might have a point.

and actually, when you don't have a philosophy and set of rules to live by, you can't be a hypocrite and break them. it's not pollyanna horseshit, just Simple Truth.

No, it would still be hypocritical, but nice try. You're saying that the example I gave above wouldn't be hypocritical? Nice set of standards you can set for yourself, I guess.
Simple Truth is that is that if an atheist did this, a bunch of people now complaining would suddenly say it was great. If you can't see that as the same type of hypocrisy then it's just because it's convenient for your argument.
Seriously, that's an asinine argument you're making there.

WhiteWhale
12-17-2011, 01:27 PM
When Kurt Warner thinks you lay it on too thick, you're probably laying it on too thick.

Backwards Masking
12-17-2011, 01:27 PM
You're saying that the example I gave above wouldn't be hypocritical? Nice set of standards you can set for yourself, I guess.

Nihilism is a beautiful thing like that. It is a nice set of standards actually, if you were being sincere. You weren't though, what happened to "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged Yourself".

You just broke more of Christianity's teachings in your last post than I've ever broken in Nihilism, if I were Stupid enough to ever identify my beliefs with a label, which I'm not.

mcan
12-17-2011, 01:29 PM
In regards to Tebow's run:

Good for him. I hate him, only because he's a Bronco. I'm sure he's a great guy, and if he's scrappy enough to win games in clutch moments, maybe he's the right fit there. I don't know.

In regards to the religious aspects:

I don't believe there even IS a god, so to me this is nothing more than the placebo effect of thinking God has anointed this dude and anybody on this dude's team. It has a profound effect on the psyche of the players on both sides. Think "joan of arc." Eventually, she and french found out the hard way that God either didn't exist or didn't really care about little Joan, and she was burned at the stake. Tebow will look human again, soon enough.

Baby Lee
12-17-2011, 01:29 PM
I'm sure if he was quoting the Quaran or the Satanic Bible on his face all the same people on here defending the Christian quotes would hold the same opinion of Tebow and defend him just as vigorously....

Interesting to see if it actually happened. Only Muslim display I immediately recall was that NBA player turning his back on the flag during the National Anthem.

Backwards Masking
12-17-2011, 01:33 PM
Interesting to see if it actually happened. Only Muslim display I immediately recall was that NBA player turning his back on the flag during the National Anthem.

It really would be. The over zealous celebrity discussion has been done to death. I say it's about time to have an anti zealous celebrity rise to popularity just to see how it all pans out. It may wind up making Christians look pretty damn good, it might not. I think in time we'll get one.

Baby Lee
12-17-2011, 01:37 PM
I also wonder, at its psychological base, how different this whole dynamic is from the hipster d-bag/casual fan dichotomy.

You know where the d-bag hates indie when it becomes popular or fans of their music who are fans for 'the wrong reasons,' while casual fans put little thought beyond 'am I enjoying myself in this experience' into their preferences.

blaise
12-17-2011, 01:38 PM
Nihilism is a beautiful thing like that. It is a nice set of standards actually, if you were being sincere. You weren't though, what happened to "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged Yourself".

You just broke more of Christianity's teachings in your last post than I've ever broken in Nihilism, if I were Stupid enough to ever identify my beliefs with a label, which I'm not.

Anyway you want to put it, but in simplest terms- a person who complains that Tebow "shoves his beliefs" in other people faces, but wouldn't mind it if an atheist did it would be just as hypocritical as a Christian who got upset if an atheist player, or Satan worshipping player did the stiff Tebow does.
If you can't acknowledge that simple fact then I really must assume you're lying to yourself.
You're saying one side would be guilty of hypocrisy in your hypothetical, and then saying another side wouldn't be, even though the situation is essentially the same. That's basically hypocrisy itself.

Okie_Apparition
12-17-2011, 01:38 PM
The Bears' Hurd posted bible quotes on his locker everyday
I wonder if Tebow is pimping Ukrainian whores

mcan
12-17-2011, 01:51 PM
Anyway you want to put it, but in simplest terms- a person who complains that Tebow "shoves his beliefs" in other people faces, but wouldn't mind it if an atheist did it would be just as hypocritical as a Christian who got upset if an atheist player, or Satan worshipping player did the stiff Tebow does.
If you can't acknowledge that simple fact then I really must assume you're lying to yourself.
You're saying one side would be guilty of hypocrisy in your hypothetical, and then saying another side wouldn't be, even though the situation is essentially the same. That's basically hypocrisy itself.



Anybody who says the reason they are or are not performing well is that some supernatural force wills it to be so is a psychopath by the strictest definition of the word. It's just that this PARTICULAR pathology is socially acceptable. The hypocrisy is that you NEVER hear anybody say "God made me drop the ball." God is batting 1.000 to these guys, which makes the whole thing hypocritical by default. If an atheist said he was or was not performing well because of his LACK of belief in a deity, that would just be a dumb and meaningless utterance, and we would all make fun of that person. But it wouldn't be inherently hypocritical. It would just be a massive non sequitur. Like, the reason my dog eats his food in the morning is because I have a stamp collection in my attic...

The bottom line is, people perform well or not based on a combination of their ability, their preparation, their desire, and random luck. That's all there is to it. Anybody who thinks there are other factors involved is deluded, imo.

blaise
12-17-2011, 02:10 PM
Anybody who says the reason they are or are not performing well is that some supernatural force wills it to be so is a psychopath by the strictest definition of the word. It's just that this PARTICULAR pathology is socially acceptable. The hypocrisy is that you NEVER hear anybody say "God made me drop the ball." God is batting 1.000 to these guys, which makes the whole thing hypocritical by default. If an atheist said he was or was not performing well because of his LACK of belief in a deity, that would just be a dumb and meaningless utterance, and we would all make fun of that person. But it wouldn't be inherently hypocritical. It would just be a massive non sequitur. Like, the reason my dog eats his food in the morning is because I have a stamp collection in my attic...

The bottom line is, people perform well or not based on a combination of their ability, their preparation, their desire, and random luck. That's all there is to it. Anybody who thinks there are other factors involved is deluded, imo.

If that's your opinion I can respect that, although I really think saying their a psychopath is hyperbole.
But don't tell me if an atheist said, "God didn't help me win this game. God doesn't exist," and the atheists here were like, "Yeah! Awesome!" even though they were indignant that Tebow shoved his beliefs in their face, it wouldn't be just as hypocritical as the hypotheticals outlined above by the ant-Tebow crowd.
The hypocrisy I'm discussing is that the crowd who claims it's wrong for Tebow to shove his beliefs in others faces during a football game would maybe not have a problem if an atheist did the same.
I'm not the one saying one side would be hypocritical and the other wouldn't. I'm saying there would be hypocrisy in both situations. It's Backwards Masking who seems to be claiming that being an atheist makes you somehow immune to hypocrisy.

And I don't know if your statements above are true, anyway. I don't hear players say, "God made me catch the ball," so why would the standard be, "God made me drop it"? Why should we expect that? What I normally hear is, "Thank God for my blessings." Well, how do you know Tebow wouldn't say that exact same thing after a loss? I'm guessing he actually would, and does.

KC Tattoo
12-17-2011, 02:14 PM
I hate the Broncos, that's enough reason to hate Tim Tebow.

Backwards Masking
12-17-2011, 02:14 PM
Oh not at all, I fully admit the day I say "God didn't help me win this game" I'll be a hyprocite.

ChiefFripp
12-17-2011, 02:42 PM
I have nothing against the guy other than he is a donkey but I hate hearing about him every time I turn on any sports station . He is talked about even more than Rogers and The Packers.

lewdog
12-17-2011, 02:47 PM
. He is talked about even more than Rogers and The Packers.

Well have the Packer been able to win 6 games in a row???!!!

Oh wait......

jd1020
12-17-2011, 02:50 PM
I hate Tebow because he's absolutely terrible for more than 3/4 of the game, teams go prevent and give him yards, dumbass running backs run out of bounds, fg kickers hit 59 yarders, dumbass running backs fumble the ball in OT when in FG range, and fg kickers hit 51 yarders to win the game in OT... Then all week on every fucking sports radio show/tv channel Tebow is talked about like he just won the SB and is the greatest thing to happen in Denver when the defense deserves all the glory for keeping the Broncos in the game because their QB throws for 40 yards through 3 quarters every game.

mcan
12-17-2011, 02:50 PM
If that's your opinion I can respect that, although I really think saying their a psychopath is hyperbole.
But don't tell me if an atheist said, "God didn't help me win this game. God doesn't exist," and the atheists here were like, "Yeah! Awesome!" even though they were indignant that Tebow shoved his beliefs in their face, it wouldn't be just as hypocritical as the hypotheticals outlined above by the ant-Tebow crowd.
The hypocrisy I'm discussing is that the crowd who claims it's wrong for Tebow to shove his beliefs in others faces during a football game would maybe not have a problem if an atheist did the same.
I'm not the one saying one side would be hypocritical and the other wouldn't. I'm saying there would be hypocrisy in both situations. It's Backwards Masking who seems to be claiming that being an atheist makes you somehow immune to hypocrisy.

And I don't know if your statements above are true, anyway. I don't hear players say, "God made me catch the ball," so why would the standard be, "God made me drop it"? Why should we expect that? What I normally hear is, "Thank God for my blessings." Well, how do you know Tebow wouldn't say that exact same thing after a loss? I'm guessing he actually would, and does.

Atheists aren't immune to hypocrisy. Not at all. But there are definitely some differences between an athlete who believes his religion is giving him a supernatural boost of ability in his profession and an atheist saying that idea is dumb or baseless. Both are making claims, but the claims are different in kind. The religious athlete is making an assertive claim about the structure and nature and cosmology of the universe. The atheist athlete is making a claim about the intelligence of the religious athlete.

mcan
12-17-2011, 02:54 PM
Oh not at all, I fully admit the day I say "God didn't help me win this game" I'll be a hyprocite.

If you word it like that, then yeah...

But I don't think anyone would be out of line to say "there isn't any evidence to support that anything supernatural happened out on that field." That's not shoving a belief, that's criticizing a stupid theory. And sure, it might be shoving a CRITICISM down people's throats, but that is a totally different thing.

KC_Connection
12-17-2011, 03:01 PM
That is a psychopathic article. He could've summed it up in one sentence.

"I hate Tim Tebow because he raises religious peoples' spirits, and I hate religious people, for no discernible reason other than a few in the past have failed to live up to their standards."

And WTF kind of logic is "you must hate Tebow with all your might to establish that he's a normal person"
Pretty much.

The funny thing is ridiculous articles like this make me want him to succeed even more.

blaise
12-17-2011, 05:15 PM
Atheists aren't immune to hypocrisy. Not at all. But there are definitely some differences between an athlete who believes his religion is giving him a supernatural boost of ability in his profession and an atheist saying that idea is dumb or baseless. Both are making claims, but the claims are different in kind. The religious athlete is making an assertive claim about the structure and nature and cosmology of the universe. The atheist athlete is making a claim about the intelligence of the religious athlete.

But I wasn't discussing the hypocrisy of the athlete with the other poster. I was discussing the hypocrisy of fan reaction.
So, I don't think that's relevant to the post of mine you initially quoted.

blaise
12-17-2011, 05:17 PM
Oh not at all, I fully admit the day I say "God didn't help me win this game" I'll be a hyprocite.

And you'd be a hypocrite if you criticized Tebow for telling people about his beliefs during or after a game, but celebrated an atheist doing the same.
Which was the point I initially made.

listopencil
12-17-2011, 05:18 PM
One thing I noticed in the "mic'd up" segment: Tebow wasn't praying for a win. He said something like, "Win or lose, allow me to honor you."

PornChief
12-17-2011, 05:19 PM
Isn't Phillip Rivers a hard core catholic?

blaise
12-17-2011, 05:23 PM
One thing I noticed in the "mic'd up" segment: Tebow wasn't praying for a win. He said something like, "Win or lose, allow me to honor you."

And that's the thing, people say, "Well he never this stuff after losses." Well, do they normally do onfield interviews with the losing QB? Then how would you know? And I would wager that in the press conference after a loss he says basically the same thing he does after a win.
People on message boards act like he says, "God made me win." I hear him say stuff like, "Glory to God," or something. That's not the same as saying God him win. It's more saying, "Thanks to God for what I have."

KCChiefsFan88
12-17-2011, 05:29 PM
Why are you so offended by what someone else believes in?
What bearing does it have on you?

Teblow goes out of his way to make a public display of his religion.

Being a religious athlete is not a problem and there are countless examples of athletes who were/are very religious.

Teblow is a fraud. He is a publicity whore who conveniently does good acts and shows his religion when there is a camera running or a reporter near by.

John Stockon is an ultra-religious Catholic, yet did you ever see him make a spectacle of his religion while playing basketball or trying to capitalize on it with books, public appearances, etc. the way Teblow does?

Warrick Dunn did just as much if not more good works than Teblow, yet did you ever see the media drool over him and his inspiration to his team mates?

Teblow is a mediocre QB who is riding the benefits of a strong defense and running game during this 6 game winning streak.

Also during this winning streak, Denver has wins against the likes of Miami, KC, Minnesota and Chicago without their starting QB.

scott free
12-17-2011, 05:34 PM
People with a stick up their ass about Tebow, need to get a life.

Dont like what he has to say? dont ****ing listen.

listopencil
12-17-2011, 05:42 PM
Teblow goes out of his way to make a public display of his religion.

Being a religious athlete is not a problem and there are countless examples of athletes who were/are very religious.

Teblow is a fraud. He is a publicity whore who conveniently does good acts and shows his religion when there is a camera running or a reporter near by.

John Stockon is an ultra-religious Catholic, yet did you ever see him make a spectacle of his religion while playing basketball or trying to capitalize on it with books, public appearances, etc. the way Teblow does?

Warrick Dunn did just as much if not more good works than Teblow, yet did you ever see the media drool over him and his inspiration to his team mates?

Teblow is a mediocre QB who is riding the benefits of a strong defense and running game during this 6 game winning streak.

Also during this winning streak, Denver has wins against the likes of Miami, KC, Minnesota and Chicago without their starting QB.

LMAO, you are so full of shit. Can you give me a link to the reality show they made while he was helping villagers and evangelically giving help to the hopeless? Oh, that's right. You can't. Because you're full of shit.

stevieray
12-17-2011, 05:42 PM
Teblow goes out of his way to make a public display of his religion.


....protected by the First Amendment.

you have a problem with that? guess what....that's YOUR problem.

He's being built up to be torn down, IMO.

it's coming...sooner rather than later.

listopencil
12-17-2011, 05:50 PM
....protected by the First Amendment.

you have a problem with that? guess what....that's YOUR problem.




Yep.

Backwards Masking
12-17-2011, 05:50 PM
And you'd be a hypocrite if you criticized Tebow for telling people about his beliefs during or after a game, but celebrated an atheist doing the same.
Which was the point I initially made.

not in Satan's eyes

Backwards Masking
12-17-2011, 05:51 PM
Isn't Phillip Rivers a hard core catholic?

With 6 Kids at like age 29 or 30.

Phillip didn't get to where he is to wrap that monster up.

Okie_Apparition
12-17-2011, 06:15 PM
When Tebow is cured of the gay HE will stop spouting off & say shit that gets him laid

crossbow
12-17-2011, 06:20 PM
The answer is simple:

Most people have no convictions and are jackasses that want to see successful people fail so that their own pathetic lives don't seem as pointless to them.

Its called jealousy.

KCChiefsFan88
12-17-2011, 06:45 PM
....protected by the First Amendment.

you have a problem with that? guess what....that's YOUR problem.

He's being built up to be torn down, IMO.

it's coming...sooner rather than later.

This has nothing to do with the First Amendment.

This has to to do with media narrative that Teblow's "inspiration" (i.e. his in your face religious crap) is somehow creating divine inspiration that is lifting Denver to a playoff run.

Where was that same narrative when John Stockon was leading Utah to NBA Finals runs? He is an ultra-religious Catholic. How about Reggie White leading Green Bay to the Super Bowl? He was a minister.