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Buck
12-16-2011, 09:40 PM
And which ones would you consider moving to full time or staying away from at all costs?

Fritz88
12-16-2011, 09:46 PM
London. Munich
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SNR
12-16-2011, 09:47 PM
I lived in Vienna for 4 months awhile ago. It was the greatest experience of my life. It's a city that's considered one of the least American-friendly (perhaps only behind Paris) but it's still a wonderful place to be. I didn't have much trouble living there at all.

Outside of that, pretty much anything in Germany or Scandanavia, probably.

cdcox
12-16-2011, 09:48 PM
If you have money, any of them are fine.

Rain Man
12-16-2011, 10:01 PM
I haven't been to many of them, but I would tend to think that pretty much any city in Europe is going to be reasonably friendly to Americans. Maybe some of the southern Italian cities are less friendly, and maybe you'd get bugged a lot in southeast Europe by people who want you to make them rich, but I don't think any of them would be unfriendly.

I guess if you count the European continent Moscow might be a bit dangerous, but I'm not really sure of that.

crazycoffey
12-16-2011, 10:19 PM
Paris - french are not the most american friendly
I lived in Heidelberg Germany, they have a college there and many english speaking students from all over attend. Many people there speak english as a second language and were very friendly. Many of the young women really liked americans too (or at least they liked the chance to earn the ID card for the Post Exchange....)

teedubya
12-16-2011, 10:22 PM
Stay away from Europe... IMO... that economy is very unstable. I'm thinking BC canada for your love of pot would be the best place to move long term... or Costa Rica or somewhere in South America. Since you're latino, you could go all over down there with no troubles.

WoodDraw
12-16-2011, 10:26 PM
I've found that most people you meet day to day don't give a shit. If you're talking about actually moving to a country, the biggest issue would be language and second culture.

Buck
12-16-2011, 10:28 PM
Stay away from Europe... IMO... that economy is very unstable. I'm thinking BC canada for your love of pot would be the best place to move long term... or Costa Rica or somewhere in South America. Since you're latino, you could go all over down there with no troubles.

LOL. I haven't smoked weed in quite some time.

Whenever I do pick it up, I do for like a month and then quit for 6 months again.

BigMeatballDave
12-16-2011, 10:31 PM
London
Amsterdam

Fritz88
12-16-2011, 10:33 PM
Jakarta
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Fritz88
12-16-2011, 10:33 PM
Kabul.
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Buck
12-16-2011, 10:34 PM
Fuck you Fritz. I made a joke about you in another thread and you didn't even neg rep me for it.

Actually I hope your Mom isn't dead because that would have been a pretty awful joke to make.

Smed1065
12-16-2011, 10:40 PM
LOL. I haven't smoked weed in quite some time.

Whenever I do pick it up, I do for like a month and then quit for 6 months again.

Gateway~

AustinChief
12-16-2011, 10:40 PM
Ten years ago, Tarragona Spain was amazing and Americans were very well liked.. at least it felt that way. I actually didn't run into anyone in any part of Europe who wasn't friendly to Americans at that time.

But as was mentioned... language is the biggest concern (unless you pick up languages extremely quickly)

Buck
12-16-2011, 10:42 PM
Yeah I'd prefer an English speaking country.

I am tired of pretty much every person I know. The only person I would miss is my Mom and one of my friends.

I've been saving up money, but I need to find a good job for at least 6 months before I can save up enough to go on a week or two long trip somewhere in Europe. I definitely want to test the waters first, but I'd like to move somewhere where I know absolutely nobody at all, outside of the United States.

WoodDraw
12-16-2011, 10:43 PM
London
Amsterdam

The dutch are actually fairly cold, and I think the Netherlands is consistently ranked one of the worst places for expats. The plus there is that they all speak near perfect English, to the point that it's become part of their culture. But I'd never move there, or want to spend any extended time there.

Rain Man
12-16-2011, 10:44 PM
Kabul.
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Are you listing the good places or the places to avoid?

WoodDraw
12-16-2011, 10:49 PM
Yeah I'd prefer an English speaking country.

I am tired of pretty much every person I know. The only person I would miss is my Mom and one of my friends.

I've been saving up money, but I need to find a good job for at least 6 months before I can save up enough to go on a week or two long trip somewhere in Europe. I definitely want to test the waters first, but I'd like to move somewhere where I know absolutely nobody at all, outside of the United States.

I'd have a hard time picking any place other than Spain. I've never met a person that doesn't fall in love with that country. But good luck finding a job, especially en blanco.

Europe isn't an easy place to grab a work visa to right now.

AustinChief
12-16-2011, 10:56 PM
I'd have a hard time picking any place other than Spain. I've never met a person that doesn't fall in love with that country. But good luck finding a job, especially en blanco.

Europe isn't an easy place to grab a work visa to right now.

Exactly.. if I were to move back to Europe it would only be because most of what I do doesn't require me to have anything other than a decent internet connection... no WAY I would count on finding work there. You MAY be able to find low paying work teaching English... but those jobs aren't as easy to find as they once were.

WoodDraw
12-16-2011, 10:57 PM
Yeah I'd prefer an English speaking country.

I am tired of pretty much every person I know. The only person I would miss is my Mom and one of my friends.

I've been saving up money, but I need to find a good job for at least 6 months before I can save up enough to go on a week or two long trip somewhere in Europe. I definitely want to test the waters first, but I'd like to move somewhere where I know absolutely nobody at all, outside of the United States.

I'd check out Australia. It's English speaking, it's easier to get a visa to then Europe, and they have a reputation for being some of the most welcoming to foreigners. But you'll be in the middle of fuck all.

Buck
12-16-2011, 10:58 PM
Damn, I had this idea in my head that it'd be easy to find a job there.

JoeyChuckles
12-16-2011, 11:00 PM
Yeah I'd prefer an English speaking country.

I am tired of pretty much every person I know. The only person I would miss is my Mom and one of my friends.

I've been saving up money, but I need to find a good job for at least 6 months before I can save up enough to go on a week or two long trip somewhere in Europe. I definitely want to test the waters first, but I'd like to move somewhere where I know absolutely nobody at all, outside of the United States.

English speaking in Wester Europe. Could you narrow down your list more please?

AustinChief
12-16-2011, 11:01 PM
You'd probably have better luck finding work in Australia. Have you thought about Aus or New Zealand? Or how about Argentina?

Buck
12-16-2011, 11:02 PM
I never thought about Oceania or South America.

To be honest, I'm a history buff, and Europe really attracts me. Otherwise I would just move to Canada.

Der Flöprer
12-16-2011, 11:03 PM
Yeah I'd prefer an English speaking country.

I am tired of pretty much every person I know. The only person I would miss is my Mom and one of my friends.

I've been saving up money, but I need to find a good job for at least 6 months before I can save up enough to go on a week or two long trip somewhere in Europe. I definitely want to test the waters first, but I'd like to move somewhere where I know absolutely nobody at all, outside of the United States.

i'll miss you too. Move to Dublin.

prhom
12-16-2011, 11:10 PM
Damn, I had this idea in my head that it'd be easy to find a job there.

I think this depends on what your skills are. It's probably going to be a lot easier if you are looking for a white-collar job.

WoodDraw
12-16-2011, 11:11 PM
Spain has an unemployment rate in the 20s and a youth unemployment rate close to 50%. You might find a job en negro working at a bar or teaching english, but you'll be competing against tons of others just like you. Meaning, you'll get paid shit. Also, you'll be on a Schengen visa, which means you can only spend 90 days there every six month period. If you overstay your visa, you'll have a hard time getting let back into most european countries.

I just got back from living in South America for a bit. I loved it, and would go back tomorrow. But it's not an easy experience. Europe isn't either. Especially in South America, you have to know Spanish (or Portuguese for Brasil), or you won't have any type of an experience. And it's tiring. And many times overwhelming.

There's no coincidence that most big cities have pretty extensive english expat groups, mostly made up of borderline alcoholics that get together to drink and bitch about their days. It can be really hard to develop any true friendships, even more so with no knowledge of the language or a job that gets you around people. It's often romanticized, but living there is a different thing.

teedubya
12-16-2011, 11:14 PM
Buck, just promise us that where ever you move, does NOT have internet. :-P

Gadzooks
12-16-2011, 11:17 PM
I never thought about Oceania or South America.

To be honest, I'm a history buff, and Europe really attracts me. Otherwise I would just move to Canada.

Canada's cold this time of year.

crazycoffey
12-16-2011, 11:36 PM
Yeah I'd prefer an English speaking country.

I am tired of pretty much every person I know. The only person I would miss is my Mom and one of my friends.

I've been saving up money, but I need to find a good job for at least 6 months before I can save up enough to go on a week or two long trip somewhere in Europe. I definitely want to test the waters first, but I'd like to move somewhere where I know absolutely nobody at all, outside of the United States.


ahhh, I'll miss you too buddy

crazycoffey
12-16-2011, 11:37 PM
i'll miss you too. Move to Dublin.

:cuss:

4321

AustinChief
12-16-2011, 11:46 PM
There's no coincidence that most big cities have pretty extensive english expat groups, mostly made up of borderline alcoholics that get together to drink and bitch about their days. It can be really hard to develop any true friendships, even more so with no knowledge of the language or a job that gets you around people. It's often romanticized, but living there is a different thing.

BEST PART ABOUT LIVING ABROAD! :D

Simply Red
12-16-2011, 11:52 PM
London. Munich
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ashamedly, i enjoy conducting business with the UK buyers more than the USA buyers. They've ALWAYS have their ducks in a row and they never haggle over price, additionally; they speak a unique style of English which gets me hard. Well this one girl does, when I talk to her.

Simply Red
12-16-2011, 11:56 PM
Spain has an unemployment rate in the 20s and a youth unemployment rate close to 50%. You might find a job en negro working at a bar or teaching english, but you'll be competing against tons of others just like you. Meaning, you'll get paid shit. Also, you'll be on a Schengen visa, which means you can only spend 90 days there every six month period. If you overstay your visa, you'll have a hard time getting let back into most european countries.

I just got back from living in South America for a bit. I loved it, and would go back tomorrow. But it's not an easy experience. Europe isn't either. Especially in South America, you have to know Spanish (or Portuguese for Brasil), or you won't have any type of an experience. And it's tiring. And many times overwhelming.

There's no coincidence that most big cities have pretty extensive english expat groups, mostly made up of borderline alcoholics that get together to drink and bitch about their days. It can be really hard to develop any true friendships, even more so with no knowledge of the language or a job that gets you around people. It's often romanticized, but living there is a different thing.

Wooddraw is quitely the most worldly cp'er. Right up there w/ Rain Man. I always thought that about you. Very cool life-experience story, there.

PornChief
12-17-2011, 12:03 AM
I'd check out Australia. It's English speaking, it's easier to get a visa to then Europe, and they have a reputation for being some of the most welcoming to foreigners. But you'll be in the middle of **** all.

yeah it's all desert and kangaroos bounce down the main street of Sydney.

AustinChief
12-17-2011, 12:19 AM
yeah it's all desert and kangaroos bounce down the main street of Sydney.

TRUTH!

And this is their symbol of Christmas!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ozmas.png

The Christmas Koala!

Oh and all the people have horns and tails... also truth!

WoodDraw
12-17-2011, 12:44 AM
Haha, I was talking more about travelling outside of aus and coming back home to visit the states, not aus itself. :)

AustinChief
12-17-2011, 12:48 AM
Haha, I was talking more about travelling outside of aus and coming back home to visit the states, not aus itself. :)

Wel, in truth, if you aren't in the few major metro areas.. you really are in the middle of nowhere... but that can be said for any large country with a relatively small population really.

PornChief
12-17-2011, 01:52 AM
Wel, in truth, if you aren't in the few major metro areas.. you really are in the middle of nowhere... but that can be said for any large country with a relatively small population really.

Well sorta. any large town along the coast will have a couple of shopping malls and whatever, places like Sydney or Melbourne stretch for miles and I doubt they don't have anything L.A etc would have far as buying stuff goes. Except guns maybe. I grew up in a place that had no shops , no pub, no nothing but a school, a public hall, and a phone box.
But anyway, if you want work, you'll need a work visa, how hard they are to get depends what side the gov got out of bed that morning, and your best bet would be getting a mining job. I basically either work as a truck driver, a welder or with cattle. Right now it's welder, and most of the young blokes in that trade piss off to work at the mines soon as they finish their apprenticeships cause they'll get paid 3000 - 4000 a week to live in the desert where most work 12 hour shifts 7 days 3 weeks on, 1 week off with free plane ride to the city and back for the week off. They just can't get enough tradesmen like diesel fitters, mechanics, electricians, welders, etc as well and mining engineers and the like.

AustinChief
12-17-2011, 02:17 AM
Well sorta. any large town along the coast will have a couple of shopping malls and whatever, places like Sydney or Melbourne stretch for miles and I doubt they don't have anything L.A etc would have far as buying stuff goes. Except guns maybe. I grew up in a place that had no shops , no pub, no nothing but a school, a public hall, and a phone box.
But anyway, if you want work, you'll need a work visa, how hard they are to get depends what side the gov got out of bed that morning, and your best bet would be getting a mining job. I basically either work as a truck driver, a welder or with cattle. Right now it's welder, and most of the young blokes in that trade piss off to work at the mines soon as they finish their apprenticeships cause they'll get paid 3000 - 4000 a week to live in the desert where most work 12 hour shifts 7 days 3 weeks on, 1 week off with free plane ride to the city and back for the week off. They just can't get enough tradesmen like diesel fitters, mechanics, electricians, welders, etc as well and mining engineers and the like.

I've heard there is a need for skilled IT workers there, but I don't have any evidence to back that up... just something I have heard.

Buck
12-17-2011, 02:18 AM
Well sorta. any large town along the coast will have a couple of shopping malls and whatever, places like Sydney or Melbourne stretch for miles and I doubt they don't have anything L.A etc would have far as buying stuff goes. Except guns maybe. I grew up in a place that had no shops , no pub, no nothing but a school, a public hall, and a phone box.
But anyway, if you want work, you'll need a work visa, how hard they are to get depends what side the gov got out of bed that morning, and your best bet would be getting a mining job. I basically either work as a truck driver, a welder or with cattle. Right now it's welder, and most of the young blokes in that trade piss off to work at the mines soon as they finish their apprenticeships cause they'll get paid 3000 - 4000 a week to live in the desert where most work 12 hour shifts 7 days 3 weeks on, 1 week off with free plane ride to the city and back for the week off. They just can't get enough tradesmen like diesel fitters, mechanics, electricians, welders, etc as well and mining engineers and the like.

Are you a fan of the AFL?

Fritz88
12-17-2011, 02:32 AM
ashamedly, i enjoy conducting business with the UK buyers more than the USA buyers. They've ALWAYS have their ducks in a row and they never haggle over price, additionally; they speak a unique style of English which gets me hard. Well this one girl does, when I talk to her.

London is a great city. You can never run out of things to do or see there.

Completely agree about the boner inducing accent.
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PornChief
12-17-2011, 06:36 AM
Are you a fan of the AFL?

St Kilda!

Buck
12-17-2011, 06:44 AM
St Kilda!

Bandwagon!!!

Cheater5
12-17-2011, 07:37 AM
Oslo Norway. They ALL speak English and have a totally relaxed attitude. The women are stunning (white blond with blue eyes, or jet black hair/blue eyes).

Lonewolf Ed
12-17-2011, 07:50 AM
Aalborg, Denmark is a great town and friendly to Americans, or at least they are to me.

ozarkchief
12-17-2011, 02:34 PM
Oslo Norway. They ALL speak English and have a totally relaxed attitude. The women are stunning (white blond with blue eyes, or jet black hair/blue eyes).

A co-worker of mine had a Norwegian exchange student stay with her last year...she was tall, blonde...definitely could go into modeling if she so desired. She was also sweet as could be. If she's representative of what Norwegian women are like, I'd take a trip to Oslo in a heartbeat.

R8RFAN
12-17-2011, 02:40 PM
New Zealand

Slainte
12-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Oslo Norway. They ALL speak English and have a totally relaxed attitude. The women are stunning (white blond with blue eyes, or jet black hair/blue eyes).

*Filing this information away for future use*...

Rain Man
12-17-2011, 10:09 PM
A co-worker of mine had a Norwegian exchange student stay with her last year...she was tall, blonde...definitely could go into modeling if she so desired. She was also sweet as could be. If she's representative of what Norwegian women are like, I'd take a trip to Oslo in a heartbeat.

So where can a person get - er, host - such an exchange student?