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Pawnmower
12-17-2011, 11:15 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/nyregion/woman-burned-alive-in-brooklyn-elevator.html

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But in the beginning, it seemed routine: a man dressed as an exterminator, wearing gloves, with a protective mask perched atop his head and carrying a container on his back, takes the elevator to the fifth floor.

Sometime later, an older woman carrying groceries took the same ride to the fifth floor.

Two cameras recording from different positions, one inside the small tiled elevator and another in a hallway, show the doors open and the man with the container approach. The man, who appeared to be in his 40s, first sprays the woman in the face, then douses her methodically from head to toe with what a city official said was an accelerant as she turned and cowered, raising her hands, the grocery bags hanging from her wrists.

Having cornered the woman in the elevator, the man struggles to light a barbecue lighter. He then ignites a Molotov cocktail — a wine or Champagne bottle filled with accelerant with a rag stuffed in its neck. He retreats and comes back again, spraying more liquid on his victim. And suddenly the silent video goes white with a conflagration in the small space: the woman, on fire.

Investigators are poring over the footage, a disturbing silent film capturing what is perhaps a singular act of violence: a woman being burned alive.

The crime took place Saturday afternoon at 203 Underhill Avenue in Prospect Heights. Detectives and fire marshals were reviewing the footage and interviewing neighbors.

As of Saturday evening, there had been no arrests, but investigators were already following a major lead: the man appeared to have been burned on his face and hands. Investigators immediately began looking for him at local hospitals.

The Police Department released photographs of the suspect, taken from the video, late Saturday night.

Firefighters and the police arrived about 4 p.m. after callers to 911 reported fire and smoke in the building, unaware of what had happened in the elevator.

A resident of the fifth floor, John, 29, who would not give his last name, said he had heard screaming and saw smoke coming from the elevator. “I thought it was kids because the screaming was high-pitched,” he said. “I looked out the door and saw smoke coming out of the elevator.”

While officials did not release the woman’s name on Saturday night, neighbors said they believed she was Delores Gillespie, though they were unclear as to the exact spelling of her first name. Ms. Gillespie was a postal worker, one neighbor said.

Residents were evacuated from the building after the fire. Hours later, some, like Maria Daley, wept while sitting on a city bus that had been provided for the displaced tenants. “She was my friend,” Ms. Daley said. “I just spoke to her yesterday.”

Another neighbor, Heidi Matthews, 46, said Ms. Gillespie had given her a plant on Mother’s Day. “It’s hard to believe somebody would do that to her,” she said.

“We all loved her,” Ms. Matthews said. “She was a part of this neighborhood for years.”

Tim Stelloh contributed reporting.

jd1020
12-17-2011, 11:21 PM
Time to bring back the "faulty" electric chair for this guy.

teedubya
12-17-2011, 11:30 PM
I can't believe humanity, at times. It's like the neanderthal gene has never evolved on some of these fucking idiots. This guy needs a slow death and a painful one. Fuck him.

Buck
12-17-2011, 11:30 PM
They speak about the lady in the past tense but they never explicitly say that she died.

Caseyguyrr
12-17-2011, 11:41 PM
damn thats crazy shit, ppl are seriously fucked up

aturnis
12-17-2011, 11:43 PM
That's fucked up.

So was your post ChiefsNow. At least you had the decency to delete it, or a mod did.

Chocolate Hog
12-17-2011, 11:46 PM
Dude looks like Redman

BIG_DADDY
12-17-2011, 11:46 PM
I can't believe humanity, at times. It's like the neanderthal gene has never evolved on some of these ****ing idiots. This guy needs a slow death and a painful one. **** him.

So your psyche coorelates neanderthal with one who sadistically and mercilessly lights helpless little old ladies on fire for their personal pleasure. Interesting. :hmmm:

corn fed chief
12-17-2011, 11:49 PM
The most disturbing part for me is the fact that this asshole clearly planned this out. What a worthless piece of shit.

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ChiefsNow
12-17-2011, 11:51 PM
The most disturbing part for me is the fact that this asshole clearly planned this out. What a worthless piece of shit.

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I wonder if he was targeting her or just anybody?

Caseyguyrr
12-17-2011, 11:53 PM
What did the deleted post say?

corn fed chief
12-17-2011, 11:54 PM
I wonder if he was targeting her or just anybody?

Yeah, that's something to think about. My guess is it was just random. If he had targeted her you'd think the residents of that building would've recognized his pic.

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petegz28
12-18-2011, 12:05 AM
The most disturbing part for me is the fact that this asshole clearly planned this out. What a worthless piece of shit.

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Don't worry, what will be even worse is if they catch the guy he will deemed insane and not fit to stand trial.

jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:05 AM
They speak about the lady in the past tense but they never explicitly say that she died.

She is dead.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45711605/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#.Tu2QW9Wy29I

"Browne would not comment on the motive in the killing, but said the suspect knew his victim."

petegz28
12-18-2011, 12:07 AM
She is dead.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45711605/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#.Tu2QW9Wy29I

"Browne would not comment on the motive in the killing, but said the suspect knew his victim."

If they don't know who he is, how do they know he knew her?

BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:08 AM
Don't worry, what will be even worse is if they catch the guy he will deemed insane and not fit to stand trial.

And the bureaucracy will soak the tax payers for millions no matter what way it goes.

petegz28
12-18-2011, 12:10 AM
And the bureaucracy will soak the tax payers for millions no matter what way it goes.

Well, if I had my way I would give him his trial, then his appeal, then take him into the bathroom at the courthouse and put a bullet in his head and be done with it. There is no point in keeping someone like this alive.

jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:10 AM
Don't worry, what will be even worse is if they catch the guy he will deemed insane and not fit to stand trial.

No chance. The guy sprayed her in the face, had a lighter, and a bottle of alcohol with a rag stuffed in it. Premeditated murder. Even a retard wouldn't get out of that.

petegz28
12-18-2011, 12:11 AM
No chance. The guy sprayed her in the face, had a lighter, and a bottle of alcohol with a rag stuffed in it. Premeditated murder. Even a retard wouldn't get out of that.

You haven't paid much attention to our legal system as of late I take it? I hope you're right but the sad part is that we have this sick habit of making a victim out of the criminal.

jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:13 AM
You haven't paid much attention to our legal system as of late I take it? I hope you're right but the sad part is that we have this sick habit of making a victim out of the criminal.

Link me to someone who recently got off on premeditated murder.

BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:15 AM
Well, if I had my way I would give him his trial, then his appeal, then take him into the bathroom at the courthouse and put a bullet in his head and be done with it. There is no point in keeping someone like this alive.

Totally agree.

Gonzo
12-18-2011, 12:16 AM
Link me to someone who recently got off on premeditated murder.

www.ojsimpson.com
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jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:16 AM
www.ojsimpson.com
Posted via Mobile Device

This guy is really going to get off on lack of evidence...

BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:17 AM
Link me to someone who recently got off on premeditated murder.

LMAO You have to be kidding.

Gonzo
12-18-2011, 12:18 AM
Link me to someone who recently got off on premeditated murder.

Oh wait, you want someone recent...
Casey Anthony good enough for you?
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petegz28
12-18-2011, 12:19 AM
Oh wait, you want someone recent...
Casey Anthony good enough for you?
Posted via Mobile Device

Ugh, beat me to it.

jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:21 AM
Oh wait, you want someone recent...
Casey Anthony good enough for you?
Posted via Mobile Device

Another case with not enough evidence.

corn fed chief
12-18-2011, 12:22 AM
If they don't know who he is, how do they know he knew her?

Yeah, makes no sense to me.

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BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:22 AM
Ugh, beat me to it.

OJ? There is a launry list. I can't believe anyone would even post that

BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:23 AM
Another case with not enough evidence.

LMAO Unfriggenbelievable.

jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:24 AM
LMAO Unfriggenbelievable.

You should learn how the justice system works. It's one thing to believe someone did something. It's another thing to prove they did it beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm not saying these people didn't do it. But neither OJ or Anthony had their murder caught on ****ing tape.

BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:28 AM
You should learn how the justice system works. It's one thing to believe someone did something. It's another thing to prove they did it beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm not saying these people didn't do it. But neither OJ or Anthony had their murder caught on ****ing tape.

OK, no one over got off on an insanity plea. We are beating a dead horse here.

BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:32 AM
Link me to someone who recently got off on premeditated murder.

You should learn how the justice system works. It's one thing to believe someone did something. It's another thing to prove they did it beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm not saying these people didn't do it. But neither OJ or Anthony had their murder caught on ****ing tape.

I like how you move the goal posts too. Where is the camera in this?

jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:33 AM
I like how you move the goal posts too. Where is the camera in this?

wtf?

jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:34 AM
OK, no one over got off on an insanity plea. We are beating a dead horse here.

You dont "get off" on an insanity plea.

petegz28
12-18-2011, 12:35 AM
You dont "get off" on an insanity plea.

for all intents and purposes yes, you do.

teedubya
12-18-2011, 12:36 AM
Since they just passed NDAA... they can actually just make this guy disappear. You spray someone in the face with flammable spray... and she dies? That's an act of terror. Send this guy to Gitmo.

BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:37 AM
Since they just passed NDAA... they can actually just make this guy disappear. You spray someone in the face with flammable spray... and she dies? That's an act of terror. Send this guy to Gitmo.

This guy believes in the judicial process, lets not complicate things

Gonzo
12-18-2011, 12:37 AM
To the DC!!!!
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corn fed chief
12-18-2011, 12:39 AM
I'm waiting to hear this guys defense (if it gets to trial) give everyone a sob story about now he's homeless and has had a rough life. Maybe even throw in his upbringing filled with abuse.

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jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:41 AM
This guy believes in the judicial process, lets not complicate things

Quote me where I said "I believe in the judicial process."

You are fucking retarded.

BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:44 AM
Quote me where I said "I believe in the judicial process."

You are ****ing retarded.

Link me to someone who recently got off on premeditated murder.

You got plenty of resonses on this then you moved the goal posts.

jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:46 AM
You got plenty of resonses on this then you moved the goal posts.

I didn't move any goal posts, retard.

BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:49 AM
I didn't move any goal posts, retard.

Sure, you said the evidence would have to be on camera. It's Ok though, hope you have a better night. Cheetos and porn maybe.

jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:50 AM
Sure, you said the evidence would have to be on camera. It's Ok though, hope you have a better night. Cheetos and porn maybe.

I never said the evidence would have to be on camera you dumb fuck.

Valiant
12-18-2011, 12:50 AM
Some people need better means of expressing their displeasure of Pioli..

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-18-2011, 12:54 AM
There is no bigger misconception of the justice system than the belief that the insanity plea is A) used often and B) effective in getting people off.

It's neither.

BIG_DADDY
12-18-2011, 12:57 AM
I never said the evidence would have to be on camera you dumb ****.

But neither OJ or Anthony had their murder caught on ****ing tape.

It would be nice if you could relect on what you said and quit resorting to the personal attacks.

jd1020
12-18-2011, 12:57 AM
It would be nice if you could relect on what you said and quit resorting to the personal attacks.

It would be nice if you had a brain.

In OJ's and Anthony's case both were unable to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. This guy has his murder on tape.

Now please tell me where you connect those 2 statements to "must be on tape."

jd1020
12-18-2011, 01:06 AM
There is no bigger misconception of the justice system than the belief that the insanity plea is A) used often and B) effective in getting people off.

It's neither.

Can you even plead insane in a premeditated murder case?

Even if you can its going to be near impossible to prove he was insane since he escaped by using the stairs. He clearly knew what he was doing.

KILLER_CLOWN
12-18-2011, 01:06 AM
The guy should be doused in kerosene and lit on fire, sub-human pos.

corn fed chief
12-18-2011, 01:19 AM
The guy should be doused in kerosene and lit on fire, sub-human pos.

I'd pay good money for a front row seat to that roast!

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go bowe
12-18-2011, 01:19 AM
Can you even plead insane in a premeditated murder case?

Even if you can its going to be near impossible to prove he was insane since he escaped by using the stairs. He clearly knew what he was doing.

absolutely...

and someone can know what they're doing and still be quite insane...

go bowe
12-18-2011, 01:21 AM
The guy should be doused in kerosene and lit on fire, sub-human pos.

while it would be highly illegal and possibly immoral to do that, the fire would undoubtedly make for a warm glow...

especially nice on a chilly night...

jd1020
12-18-2011, 01:23 AM
absolutely...

and someone can know what they're doing and still be quite insane...

The legal definition of insanity is "the inability to distinguish right from wrong."

This guy escaped by using a secondary route. It's going to be near impossible to prove that he didn't know what he was doing was wrong.

FAX
12-18-2011, 01:23 AM
Can an animal be insane? Because, this thing is not a human being. Not even close.

It makes you wonder if there should be a special kind of court for things of this nature. To give an animal like this a "trial" seems like a mockery of a legal system. You don't give a rabid dog a trial. Instead of being judged by peers, you could just have 12 people take turns cutting off one of his appendages until its time for lunch.

Oh ... and the insanity defense is successful in about 25% of the cases in which it's used. That's not a bad success rate when you consider the kinds of crimes involved.

FAX

KCtotheSB
12-18-2011, 01:27 AM
I can't help but think of my own loved ones put in that horrific position and it pisses me off to no end. I know I should detach myself from such abhorrent behavior, but it's difficult. This is why I don't watch or listen to the news anymore.

Words cannot even began to describe how troubling this must be for the family/friends of that poor woman. The death chair is too good for this asshole. Rot in hell, you son of a bitch.

FAX
12-18-2011, 01:27 AM
The legal definition of insanity is "the inability to distinguish right from wrong."

This guy escaped by using a secondary route. It's going to be near impossible to prove that he didn't know what he was doing was wrong.

That's actually only one of several possible tests, the "right or wrong" thing, I mean.

Besides, one can be lucid and still have a severe mental defect. There are several Planeteers, in fact, who demonstrate that ability.

FAX

Chocolate Hog
12-18-2011, 01:34 AM
Since they just passed NDAA... they can actually just make this guy disappear. You spray someone in the face with flammable spray... and she dies? That's an act of terror. Send this guy to Gitmo.

Why not just use HAARP and have him get blown away in a wind storm?

Baby Lee
12-18-2011, 03:15 AM
This right on the heels of that NYC lady who was crushed to death when the elevator malfunctioned and ascended rapidly while she was half in, half out, of the entrance.

milkshock
12-18-2011, 04:13 AM
It would be nice if you had a brain.

In OJ's and Anthony's case both were unable to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. This guy has his murder on tape.

Now please tell me where you connect those 2 statements to "must be on tape."

i think what he meant was

you can be convicted of something, even if you arent caught on camera doing it. because other evidence that may exist can prove that you were the only one capable of doing it.

indeed the OJ and Anthony cases were far from the norm and are highlighted because in many other instances, these people would have been sent to prison.

would you agree?

scho63
12-18-2011, 05:59 AM
Some scummy ACLU lawyer will say he was abused as a child and doesn't deserve death-he should be stoned to death like in Saudi Arabia

BoneKrusher
12-18-2011, 06:15 AM
The guy should be doused in kerosene and lit on fire, sub-human pos.

this^

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-18-2011, 07:15 AM
I'm waiting to hear this guys defense (if it gets to trial) give everyone a sob story about now he's homeless and has had a rough life. Maybe even throw in his upbringing filled with abuse.

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Add in a little "daddy touched me" and he's gold.

Steve
12-18-2011, 07:19 AM
Do to him what he did to her.I volunteer my services.

LiveSteam
12-18-2011, 07:39 AM
I always wondered if Rick James had kids or not. Now we know

kstater
12-18-2011, 07:39 AM
Turned himself in.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-questioning-man-nyc-womans-fire-death-135234332.html

notorious
12-18-2011, 07:41 AM
Turned himself in.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-questioning-man-nyc-womans-fire-death-135234332.html

As soon as they find out for certain it is him, they should take him behind the building with some napalm and finish it.

KCUnited
12-18-2011, 07:42 AM
There is no bigger misconception of the justice system than the belief that the insanity plea is A) used often and B) effective in getting people off.

It's neither.

torché

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-18-2011, 07:42 AM
As soon as they find out for certain it is him, they should take him behind the building with some napalm and finish it.

Give the victim's family a blowtorch and let them slow burn the sumbitch.

Pushead2
12-18-2011, 08:46 AM
another load that should have been swallowed by his mother. Fucking piece of shit.

mlyonsd
12-18-2011, 09:05 AM
Words really can't describe what I'd like seen done to the guy.

blaise
12-18-2011, 09:21 AM
I bet it was over some stupid trivial thing. Like, she didn't hold the door for him once, or made a noise complaint.

Otter
12-18-2011, 09:47 AM
Am I looking at that first picture wrong or is the door on that elevator a swing open/hinges style door? Never seen that before.

Nothing really to add that hasn't already been said.

Hog Farmer
12-18-2011, 10:11 AM
I,m guessing she failed to deliver his welfare check

Extra Point
12-18-2011, 10:18 AM
Someone will pay the inmate's family to shank this guy, within three weeks.

go bowe
12-18-2011, 10:22 AM
The legal definition of insanity is "the inability to distinguish right from wrong."

This guy escaped by using a secondary route. It's going to be near impossible to prove that he didn't know what he was doing was wrong.

difficult but not impossible...

john lennon's killer comes to mind...

Hog Farmer
12-18-2011, 10:23 AM
Probably a hit man hired by her x

Bane
12-18-2011, 10:25 AM
Too bad she wasn't carrying a concealed weapon.She could have dumped a few hollow points into his face and went about her day.

milkshock
12-18-2011, 10:37 AM
what is sad is that some people on this thread think that because this fucker was caught on tape it makes him more guilty than someone who tries harder to cover their tracks

petegz28
12-18-2011, 10:38 AM
Too bad she wasn't carrying a concealed weapon.She could have dumped a few hollow points into his face and went about her day.

this

Spott
12-18-2011, 10:42 AM
What a sicko. This really burns me up.

Sannyasi
12-18-2011, 10:44 AM
You got plenty of resonses on this then you moved the goal posts.

Yeah, you tried to show off your great legal knowledge by bringing up your favorite episodes of Court TV.

KChiefs1
12-18-2011, 02:03 PM
Well, if I had my way I would give him his trial, then his appeal, then take him into the bathroom at the courthouse and put a bullet in his head and be done with it. There is no point in keeping someone like this alive.

You are being way too easy on the pos.
How about burning him alive?

Deberg_1990
12-19-2011, 08:34 AM
All this because apparantly she owed the guy $2000 or something....incredible.



The suspect, Jerome Isaac, told police he set her on fire because she owed him $2,000 for some work he had done for her, Browne said.

http://news.yahoo.com/nyc-police-suspect-says-woman-set-afire-over-073146234.html

blaise
12-19-2011, 08:55 AM
All this because apparantly she owed the guy $2000 or something....incredible.



The suspect, Jerome Isaac, told police he set her on fire because she owed him $2,000 for some work he had done for her, Browne said.

http://news.yahoo.com/nyc-police-suspect-says-woman-set-afire-over-073146234.html

I bet he half-assed a job for her and she wouldn't pay him because his work sucked and she had to hire someone else to do it right.

blaise
12-19-2011, 08:58 AM
And judging by the images of that dude, he's a crackhead.

KCUnited
12-19-2011, 09:10 AM
What a sicko. This really burns me up.

Well done.

KILLER_CLOWN
12-19-2011, 09:13 AM
All this because apparantly she owed the guy $2000 or something....incredible.



The suspect, Jerome Isaac, told police he set her on fire because she owed him $2,000 for some work he had done for her, Browne said.

http://news.yahoo.com/nyc-police-suspect-says-woman-set-afire-over-073146234.html

Well now, there's a good reason. :hmmm:

fan4ever
12-19-2011, 09:39 AM
She wouldn't pay him because he'd been stealing from her...her terrorized her for weeks and then did this when it seemed he'd never get paid.

Dayze
12-19-2011, 10:24 AM
I'm saving the phrase "Die in an Elevator Fire" for the Bronco and Raiders trolls.

thecoffeeguy
12-19-2011, 10:41 AM
When they catch the fucker, they need to return the favor to him, using his setup, burn his ass alive.