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Bwana
12-18-2011, 02:11 PM
Sign him now!

Boot broke dick Cassel, Keep stanzi, draft QB.

That is all.

CHIEFS!

BigMeatballDave
12-18-2011, 02:14 PM
Sounds good.

petegz28
12-18-2011, 02:15 PM
I'd live with this. As long as we draft a QBOTF in the next 2 years. I don't want us to reach on a broke-dick pick when we need help other places but QB has to be top priority unless it just makes little sense come draft time based on availability and cost to trade up

BillSelfsTrophycase
12-18-2011, 02:15 PM
Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton

kc rush
12-18-2011, 02:17 PM
Hes not great, but hes hella better than cassel. Im ok signing him if we also get a qbotf

Bwana
12-18-2011, 02:18 PM
Hes not great, but hes hella better than cassel. Im ok signing him if we also get a qbotf

Yep

rockymtnchief
12-18-2011, 02:19 PM
It was nice seeing passes insteads of lobs and wobblers.

Count Zarth
12-18-2011, 02:21 PM
He cuts a dashing figure in red.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380090_309987045690880_116476271708626_1065563_1020678101_n.jpg

teedubya
12-18-2011, 02:21 PM
Dude is LIGHT years better than Cassel.

Wow. It was amazing seeing a real-ish QB out there.

Bwana
12-18-2011, 02:22 PM
It was nice seeing passes insteads of lobs and wobblers.

No doubt. I was telling my wife, this is the first game I have been fired up about in two years. Orton has a great FAST release. No chance we would have won this game with broke dick Cassel, or waste of skin Palko.

WilliamTheIrish
12-18-2011, 02:22 PM
Gentlemen,

keeping Orton means only one thing: We won't draft a QB. This sick, gutless franchise will now allow an overall loser like Orton to get us just close enough to sniff something good but not good enough to get us somewhere great. (cliche, I know)

He's another Deberg, another Bono, another Elvis.

I don't want another journeyman. I've seen enough of this kind of crap for 40 years. Draft and develop. I jusat cringe at the mileage the front office will try to get out of this win.

Graystoke
12-18-2011, 02:23 PM
This and more of this.
Cassel needs to be homeless in Detroit.
Sentenced to never wear RED again!

Keep Orton. Get a QB first round.

burt
12-18-2011, 02:25 PM
He's another Deberg, another Bono, another Elvis.

maybe, maybe and a hell no!

Brock
12-18-2011, 02:25 PM
Gentlemen,

keeping Orton means only one thing: We won't draft a QB. This sick, gutless franchise will now allow an overall loser like Orton to get us just close enough to sniff something good but not good enough to get us somewhere great. (cliche, I know)

He's another Deberg, another Bono, another Elvis.

I don't want another journeyman. I've seen enough of this kind of crap for 40 years. Draft and develop. I jusat cringe at the mileage the front office will try to get out of this win.

we aren't drafting a qb anyway.

Bwana
12-18-2011, 02:26 PM
Gentlemen,

keeping Orton means only one thing: We won't draft a QB. This sick, gutless franchise will now allow an overall loser like Orton to get us just close enough to sniff something good but not good enough to get us somewhere great. (cliche, I know)

He's another Deberg, another Bono, another Elvis.

I don't want another journeyman. I've seen enough of this kind of crap for 40 years. Draft and develop. I jusat cringe at the mileage the front office will try to get out of this win.

Keep Orton AND draft a QB. He will give us our best chance to win until the new QB is ready and make a great back up when that happens.

Stewie
12-18-2011, 02:27 PM
Orton made more throws today than Cassel makes in 10 games. Just shows you what a piece of shit Cassel is.

DBOSHO
12-18-2011, 02:28 PM
He cuts a dashing figure in red.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380090_309987045690880_116476271708626_1065563_1020678101_n.jpg

Omega can you photoshop a trollface on orton?

DuhChiefs
12-18-2011, 02:29 PM
Run Palko and Cassel out of Kansas City and then pick up a "NFL ready" QB in the draft.
Depth Chart-
1: Orton
2: Stanzi
3: Rookie
(:
Oh and get rid of Sabby Pickmynose.

WilliamTheIrish
12-18-2011, 02:29 PM
we aren't drafting a qb anyway.

Yea, I was probably allowing myself to be fooled.

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-18-2011, 02:29 PM
Magically the screen game and play action was there today.

FringeNC
12-18-2011, 02:30 PM
Orton made more throws today than Cassel makes in 10 games. Just shows you what a piece of shit Cassel is.

More than just throws...he can read a defense, and find the open guy.

bricks
12-18-2011, 02:30 PM
Sign him. He's a capable backup.

Get rid of Cassel. Orton is light years better.

Trade up and draft a quarterback.

Three7s
12-18-2011, 02:33 PM
Maybe we can give Cassel and a 2nd rounder to the Browns?

Psyko Tek
12-18-2011, 02:34 PM
Keep Orton AND draft a QB. He will give us our best chance to win until the new QB is ready and make a great back up when that happens.

yeah but think they have the stones to do this?
or at least seriously give stanzi a shot

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-18-2011, 02:34 PM
No turnovers against a team that feasts off of them.

threebag02
12-18-2011, 02:40 PM
We just dominated the Super Bowl Champs and an undefeated team this year. I think for the investment, we have what we need. Spend somewhere else and make what we have better. Defense wins Championships. while a QB would be nice I believe Orton could be what we have lacked. A real QB.

PRIEST
12-18-2011, 02:44 PM
Dude is LIGHT years better than Cassel.

Wow. It was amazing seeing a real-ish QB out there.

This

Bwana
12-18-2011, 02:46 PM
yeah but think they have the stones to do this?
or at least seriously give stanzi a shot

I would hope so, but I would be surprised. Cassel is Poli's boy and he's still swinging from his nut sack.

crispystl420
12-18-2011, 03:01 PM
Omega can you photoshop a trollface on orton?

Something like this maybe??

Extra Point
12-18-2011, 03:04 PM
Something like this maybe??

Troll neckbeard!

Hydrae
12-18-2011, 03:07 PM
Something like this maybe??

ROFL

Well done!

KC Tattoo
12-18-2011, 03:14 PM
Wow one game, Orton did a decent job but lets not get carried away with him just yet. He is a retread QB that has failed at two other teams.
He did good job today with playaction pass and leading to 4 frieldgoals and a touchdown drive nice job but we can do better in the draft. I still want to see Stanzi.



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Okie_Apparition
12-18-2011, 03:17 PM
I would say the win today helps him win in FA

DuhChiefs
12-18-2011, 09:03 PM
There is no way we can get rid of him after seeing his preformance against a quality (understatement I know lol) team...
Although, I do want to see that we draft another qb in the draft.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-18-2011, 09:26 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs/09000d5d8252cfab/QB-Orton-to-TE-Pope-39-yd-pass


Man i never seen cassel do what orton did here look at him look off the man on pope.

Simply Red
12-18-2011, 09:28 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/fonn8i.jpg

Simply Red
12-18-2011, 09:29 PM
Damn Clay - there is an assignment - photo the gif of him wearing red, I imagine that's relatively tough.

prhom
12-18-2011, 09:36 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs/09000d5d8252cfab/QB-Orton-to-TE-Pope-39-yd-pass


Man i never seen cassel do what orton did here look at him look off the man on pope.

Definitely, he took #42 and kept him focused away from Pope. He pretty much created that coverage bust with that look off.

FAX
12-18-2011, 09:42 PM
From what I've read, it sounds like the big difference Orton made today was hanging in the pocket (or keeping the play alive) when the first option wasn't open or available and going through the entire progression to find the open guy.

It sounds like that why guys like Pope and Blech saw some positive results.

It's amazing what you can do when you are actually able to use "all" the weapons at your disposal.

FAX

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-18-2011, 09:46 PM
We just dominated the Super Bowl Champs and an undefeated team this year. I think for the investment, we have what we need. Spend somewhere else and make what we have better. Defense wins Championships. while a QB would be nice I believe Orton could be what we have lacked. A real QB.

Like cockroaches after a nuclear holocaust.

rockymtnchief
12-18-2011, 09:46 PM
From what I've read, it sounds like the big difference Orton made today was hanging in the pocket (or keeping the play alive) when the first option wasn't open or available and going through the entire progression to find the open guy.

It sounds like that why guys like Pope and Blech saw some positive results.

It's amazing what you can do when you are actually able to use "all" the weapons at your disposal.

FAX

Exactly. He hit 10 different receivers, used pump fakes, and didn't stare down Bowe/Breaston every play.

the Talking Can
12-18-2011, 09:46 PM
Gentlemen,

keeping Orton means only one thing: We won't draft a QB. This sick, gutless franchise will now allow an overall loser like Orton to get us just close enough to sniff something good but not good enough to get us somewhere great. (cliche, I know)

He's another Deberg, another Bono, another Elvis.

I don't want another journeyman. I've seen enough of this kind of crap for 40 years. Draft and develop. I jusat cringe at the mileage the front office will try to get out of this win.

x1000000000000

you can already feel chiefs fans starting to settle....

year 4 of the rebuild and we're building a superbowl team with Orton?

fucking really?

jesus aids christ

KCBOSS1
12-18-2011, 09:48 PM
Palko and Cassel met tonight to polish up their resumes. Cassel with hopes of carrying a clipboard in a #2 spot somewhere next year.... Palko, trying to decide if a Ford or Chevrolet dealership would be better in Pittsburg.

ChiefsCountry
12-18-2011, 09:51 PM
I wanted to draft Orton in 2005, also wanted to trade for him in 2009 to bridge the gap for Sanchez, alas we finally got him. He is a solid starter but not what we need to win the Super Bowl. We still to draft and develop a first rounder to do that. But for the first time since Trent Green played for us in the playoffs against Indianapolis, do we have a legit NFL starter playing for us.

Micjones
12-18-2011, 09:53 PM
Give Orton a fair two-year deal.
Then go get Griffin, Barkley or Foles.

Count Zarth
12-18-2011, 09:54 PM
People need to be reminded...

http://i32.tinypic.com/5dkpx3.jpg

listopencil
12-18-2011, 09:55 PM
So...isn't Orton an UFA next year?

LiveSteam
12-18-2011, 09:58 PM
His ball fake was great today.

Dylan
12-18-2011, 10:04 PM
Contributing to the developing narrative: a column by Andrew Logue in The Des Moines Register in Iowa:


KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The expression on Kyle Orton’s face reflected his satisfaction.

“That’s about as much fun as I’ve had on a football field,” Orton said Sunday after quarterbacking the Kansas City Chiefs to a 19-14 upset of the previously unbeaten Green Bay Packers.

Orton, a former Southeast Polk star who was released by the Denver Broncos a month ago, orchestrated the biggest shocker of the NFL season.

He finished 23-of-31 passing for 299 yards in his starting debut for the Chiefs, gaining instant credibility.

“Your teammates don’t really know you, until you get in that huddle,” Orton said. “I kind of turn into a little bit of a different person.”

Orton became the catalyst for a victory in Romeo Crennel’s initial game as Kansas City’s interim coach, calming the storm that culminated with Todd Haley’s firing and the benching of former starting quarterback Tyler Palko.

“We asked him to protect the football,” Crennel said of Orton, “take what the defense is giving you.

“I think his experience as an NFL quarterback helped him control the offense.”

Orton guided the Chiefs (6-8) to field goals on their opening two drives, then completed two key passes during a fourth-quarter touchdown drive that put Kansas City ahead 19-7 with 4:53 remaining.

It was enough to subdue the Packers (13-1) and give Orton temporary bragging rights over reigning Super Bowl MVP Aaron Rodgers, who was 17-for-35 passing for 235 yards.

“He’s just a natural leader,” said Chiefs running back Thomas Jones, who was a teammate of Orton’s with the Chicago Bears. “You just kind of feel his presence in the huddle.

“He’s played in a lot of games and had a lot of success. He’s confident in his ability.”

Orton’s veteran savvy was a factor early last week when Crennel decided to play him over former Iowa quarterback Ricky Stanzi, a rookie.

“(Players) would know who the guy was going to be and give them an opportunity to learn his cadence and his voice,” Crennel said.

“Adapting to that was beneficial to us, because he took all the reps in practice.”

As a result, Kansas City’s offense seemed in sync for one of the few times this year.

“From the beginning of the game, all the way down to the end,” Stanzi said, “he just did an awesome job of not only managing the game, but making plays.”

The Packers owned a 19-game winning streak and had not trailed in the fourth quarter all season. One of those wins came Oct. 2, when Green Bay beat Orton and the Broncos 49-23.

“I think the guy is a damn good quarterback,” Packers coach Mike McCarthy said. “I’m not questioning coaching decisions that have gone on in the past, but I’ve always felt Kyle is an excellent player.”

Orton, who has a career record of 34-33 as an NFL starter, will be at the center of more decisions this offseason.

He could become a free agent, if he doesn’t sign with Kansas City. The Chiefs, meanwhile, have not decided who will be their permanent head coach.

Crennel was asked if Orton could be a long-term option.

“If we win these next few games with him and he continues to play like he did, then you might have to say that,” Crennel answered.

Orton deflected such questions.

“We play Oakland next week,” he said. “That’s the only thing we can think about.”

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20111218/SPORTS/111218004/?odyssey=nav%7Chead


Kyle Orton is from Iowa, correct?

ChiefsCountry
12-18-2011, 10:08 PM
Kyle Orton is from Iowa, correct?

Yes he is from a suburb of Des Moines.

splatbass
12-18-2011, 10:08 PM
Gentlemen,

keeping Orton means only one thing: We won't draft a QB.

Link?

BigMeatballDave
12-18-2011, 10:10 PM
Gentlemen,

keeping Orton means only one thing: We won't draft a QB. This sick, gutless franchise will now allow an overall loser like Orton to get us just close enough to sniff something good but not good enough to get us somewhere great. (cliche, I know)

He's another Deberg, another Bono, another Elvis.

I don't want another journeyman. I've seen enough of this kind of crap for 40 years. Draft and develop. I jusat cringe at the mileage the front office will try to get out of this win.

I believe we are united in this.

Unfortunately, I have no faith in Pioli to draft a QB.

Extra Point
12-18-2011, 10:14 PM
I believe we are united in this.

Unfortunately, I have no faith in Pioli to draft a QB.

Oh, he'll draft one, but no higher than the third.

Dylan
12-18-2011, 10:14 PM
Yes he is from a suburb of Des Moines.

that's so cool and awesome!

nice article on this topic.

thanks

Chief_For_Life58
12-18-2011, 10:14 PM
We just dominated the Super Bowl Champs and an undefeated team this year. I think for the investment, we have what we need. Spend somewhere else and make what we have better. Defense wins Championships. while a QB would be nice I believe Orton could be what we have lacked. A real QB.

YES YES AND MORE YES

ChiefsCountry
12-18-2011, 10:19 PM
I believe we are united in this.

Unfortunately, I have no faith in Pioli to draft a QB.

Agree. :clap:

BigMeatballDave
12-18-2011, 10:21 PM
Oh, he'll draft one, but no higher than the third.

I believe Pioli thinks Stanzi is their guy.

jd1020
12-18-2011, 10:25 PM
I believe Pioli thinks Stanzi is their guy.

He may be. We, as fans, will never know until we see him, though.

I'm hoping for some blow out wins or losses in these last 2. Only way we'll get to see him since we still aren't mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

okcchief
12-18-2011, 11:01 PM
If they signed Orton to a 2 year deal and released Cassel tomorrow my day would be made. There is no way Cassel should be on the roster.

We still need to draft a QB and I don't see it happening :(

okcchief
12-18-2011, 11:05 PM
Orton and Cassel are the exact same age. There is just no fucking reason to keep Cassel over Orton. Neither is a long term answer but there is no question who should be retained.

jd1020
12-18-2011, 11:06 PM
If they signed Orton to a 2 year deal and released Cassel tomorrow my day would be made. There is no way Cassel should be on the roster.

We still need to draft a QB and I don't see it happening :(

I'd at least try and trade Cassel before cutting him. There are some teams that might want him and his contract was front loaded. Even if we were only offered a 4th-7th, I would take it.

Bambi
12-18-2011, 11:14 PM
I'd at least try and trade Cassel before cutting him. There are some teams that might want him and his contract was front loaded. Even if we were only offered a 4th-7th, I would take it.

ugh, Cassell is so bad. Everyone would laugh if you tried to call up and trade him.

Sannyasi
12-18-2011, 11:14 PM
x1000000000000

you can already feel chiefs fans starting to settle....

year 4 of the rebuild and we're building a superbowl team with Orton?

****ing really?

jesus aids christ

I almost feel bad for them. Matt Cassel has abused so many Chiefs fans that they now see Kyle Orton as the face of hope. Just because he doesn't put his cigarettes out on your skin doesn't make him a keeper.

jspchief
12-19-2011, 01:24 AM
Here's some food for thought:

How many of his incompletions were those red zone passes to the front left corner of the endzone? They must have thrown to that spot 5 times without a completion. There were clearly some timing issues. More time with these receivers and he probably starts completing those, making what was a good day exponentially better.

I hate to say it, but having seen what this team can do with him, it's hard for me to imagine letting him walk.

EPodolak
12-19-2011, 01:50 AM
Cassel seems to have a better reputation around the league than he does in KC, there's probably some trade value there for someone. Let's hope. Watching Orton today put a finer point on how bad Cassel is - it's been a long time since we've seen some routine down-field completions you should expect.

johnny961
12-19-2011, 02:01 AM
Cassel seems to have a better reputation around the league than he does in KC, there's probably some trade value there for someone. Let's hope. Watching Orton today put a finer point on how bad Cassel is - it's been a long time since we've seen some routine down-field completions you should expect.

I think he would have some trade value. The problem is his salery. I could see someone wanting him for a backup but not for the money he is making. Unless he agrees to a new deal I don't see him being traded. And I'm no football genius by any stretch but I don't see him starting anywhere else right now. I think he probably either stays here or gets cut outright.

SPchief
12-19-2011, 02:26 AM
Donger is going to flip out with all the inacuracies in this thread

Phobia
12-19-2011, 02:34 AM
Orton was great today. Best QB play we've had for years. But we know that guy's ceiling. We've seen him with 2 teams already and I'm not convinced after one game in which the world champs lost 2 linemen and were without their best WR. I know everybody is on an emotional high that we haven't seen from this team in a long time but jumping on the "sign Orton long-term" wagon is completely knee-jerk at this point.

splatbass
12-19-2011, 02:56 AM
Orton was great today. Best QB play we've had for years. But we know that guy's ceiling. We've seen him with 2 teams already and I'm not convinced after one game in which the world champs lost 2 linemen and were without their best WR. I know everybody is on an emotional high that we haven't seen from this team in a long time but jumping on the "sign Orton long-term" wagon is completely knee-jerk at this point.

It seems like it is either him or Cassel, so out of those choices it seems obvious.

johnny961
12-19-2011, 03:12 AM
Orton was great today. Best QB play we've had for years. But we know that guy's ceiling. We've seen him with 2 teams already and I'm not convinced after one game in which the world champs lost 2 linemen and were without their best WR. I know everybody is on an emotional high that we haven't seen from this team in a long time but jumping on the "sign Orton long-term" wagon is completely knee-jerk at this point.

I think its fair to say that "anybody but Cassel" is the sentiment shown by some fans.

Deberg_1990
12-19-2011, 06:27 AM
Orton was great today. Best QB play we've had for years. But we know that guy's ceiling. We've seen him with 2 teams already and I'm not convinced after one game in which the world champs lost 2 linemen and were without their best WR. I know everybody is on an emotional high that we haven't seen from this team in a long time but jumping on the "sign Orton long-term" wagon is completely knee-jerk at this point.

I agree. I dont think anyone is viewing him as the "Answer". Id like him to be a bridge to a young QB for a year or two though.

His game yesterday was impressive. Might have been the most complete Chiefs QB performance in years. It definately was between the 20's.

BoneKrusher
12-19-2011, 06:32 AM
1. Sign Orton
2. Release Castle and Palko
3. Draft a QB.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-19-2011, 06:36 AM
Orton was great today. Best QB play we've had for years. But we know that guy's ceiling. We've seen him with 2 teams already and I'm not convinced after one game in which the world champs lost 2 linemen and were without their best WR. I know everybody is on an emotional high that we haven't seen from this team in a long time but jumping on the "sign Orton long-term" wagon is completely knee-jerk at this point.

This is absolutely correct. It also doesn't even mention the fact that Green Bay was pretty clearly flat in that game.

Deberg_1990
12-19-2011, 06:38 AM
This is absolutely correct. It also doesn't even mention the fact that Green Bay was pretty clearly flat in that game.

They were....it obviously wasnt that important a game to them (in the grand scheme of things). But lets give the Chiefs D some credit too. They deserve it. They played well.

farmerchief
12-19-2011, 06:39 AM
I think its fair to say that "anybody but Cassel" is the sentiment shown by some fans.
I agree, sign Orton, release Cassel(could be done for less money than Cassel will make, I assume?). Let Orton groom a rookie QB, whether it be Stanzi or one obtained in the draft. Not a long term answer with Orton, but sure enough a short term! It sure was nice to see a QB wearing a Chiefs uniform, who could come off his intended receiver and find another receiver open elsewhere on the field!

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-19-2011, 06:39 AM
They were....it obviously wasnt that important a game to them (in the grand scheme of things). But lets give the Chiefs D some credit too. They deserve it. They played well.

It's not either/or. It's both. That's the problem with this place: a complete inability to recognize and understand nuance.

Chocolate Hog
12-19-2011, 06:42 AM
It should be pointed out Orton already played Green Bay once this season and was 22/32 3 touchdowns 1 int

eazyb81
12-19-2011, 06:44 AM
- We are not going to draft a QB in the 1st round if we sign Orton to a new contract.

- Orton will not sign with KC if he is going to be the backup.

Stop suggesting these ridiculous scenarios.

If we sign Orton, he is our starting QB. At best we would draft another QB in the mid/later rounds.

BoneKrusher
12-19-2011, 06:44 AM
This is absolutely correct. It also doesn't even mention the fact that Green Bay was pretty clearly flat in that game.

i think Green Bay expected the Chiefs to be a walk in the park.

Deberg_1990
12-19-2011, 06:47 AM
It's not either/or. It's both. That's the problem with this place: a complete inability to recognize and understand nuance.

NOt sure what you mean here.

SNR
12-19-2011, 06:49 AM
Like cockroaches after a nuclear holocaust.
LMAO

Deberg_1990
12-19-2011, 06:55 AM
It's not either/or. It's both. That's the problem with this place: a complete inability to recognize and understand nuance.



NOt sure what you mean here.

Oh nevermind....i undertand what you meant now. You cant just expect everyone to understand nuance on here with written words. Things get misunderstood in email and written communication all the time unless you clearly define what you are trying to say.

But yea your right....its not either/or, it was both. : )

The Iron Chief
12-19-2011, 07:13 AM
I'm just as excited as the next guy over the win.
Yes part of a lot of people wanting Orton to sign now is the fact we havent seen a qb in red and gold since Trent.

This is however one hell of a story.
I think its obvious to everyone even my wife that there was NO love lost between the players and Haleys firing.
They all love and support Crennel.
Its also Obvious in the press conferences that theres a reason Crennels respected around the league. Crennel knows the game Crennel loves the game not just this week but always.
Now we toss in our newest QB and he makes what we've watched for the last few yrs look like flag football.
We all knew we had a defense and we all knew our passing game could get going with a legit QB.

As far as adding Orton to the pile with Grbac types I believe Orton though not elite is a touch above the Grbac pile.
I'd like to see as others have said we sign Orton to a couple yrs Draft the highest QB to fall to us or try to trade up for the best we can Stanzi the back up & see waht Crennel can do.
So
Orton/Stanzi/Best draft option I know its what many have said this is not breaking news but I'd be fine with this route.

Groves
12-19-2011, 07:19 AM
Something like this maybe??


Sebastian Janikowski also plays QB?

The Bad Guy
12-19-2011, 07:19 AM
I think what there is genuine excitement about is the fact that if Orton plays well it spells the end of Cassel. People so desperately want him off the roster, and to shed that 3 year pending commitment, that we are willing to accept Kyle Orton as the QB for at least 2 years because it in the end symbolizes the end of Cassel.

Orton is like the girl you meet out when you're trying to get out of an unhappy marriage. Not great, probably not the best idea, but far better than what you have to deal with at home. Initially, the new girl is the greatest, but after a while, the shine wears off, but at the end of the day, they are still better than what you were hitched to.

Sofa King
12-19-2011, 07:32 AM
Donger is going to flip out with all the inacuracies in this thread

/snicker

Earthling
12-19-2011, 07:44 AM
I think what there is genuine excitement about is the fact that if Orton plays well it spells the end of Cassel. People so desperately want him off the roster, and to shed that 3 year pending commitment, that we are willing to accept Kyle Orton as the QB for at least 2 years because it in the end symbolizes the end of Cassel.

Probably somewhat. However, what I personally liked about Orton was that he played the QB position at a high level and that had nothing to do with Cassel and everything to do with Orton. What did anyone see that they didn't like with Orton? He made quick multiple reads, has a legitimate long ball, released the ball quickly and was pretty accurate.

htismaqe
12-19-2011, 08:26 AM
I think what there is genuine excitement about is the fact that if Orton plays well it spells the end of Cassel. People so desperately want him off the roster, and to shed that 3 year pending commitment, that we are willing to accept Kyle Orton as the QB for at least 2 years because it in the end symbolizes the end of Cassel.

Orton is like the girl you meet out when you're trying to get out of an unhappy marriage. Not great, probably not the best idea, but far better than what you have to deal with at home. Initially, the new girl is the greatest, but after a while, the shine wears off, but at the end of the day, they are still better than what you were hitched to.

EXCELLENT post.