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BigRichard
12-18-2011, 02:50 PM
If this D keeps the pressure up they do awsome. In the second half they started to go into a prevent and they started giving up yardage. That is the way it has been all year. Keep the heat up and they do awsome, if they don't not so much. I think Crennel is starting to see that. Keep it up Crennel. I am kinda hoping to see you do well and keep the HC job.

Tribal Warfare
12-18-2011, 02:52 PM
If Houston and Hali can be the next great passrushing duo in KC then we'll be set for years.

htismaqe
12-18-2011, 02:55 PM
Think about how good Hali would be if they weren't grabbing him by the neck on every goddamn play...

JCharles1981
12-18-2011, 03:04 PM
Think about how good Hali would be if they weren't grabbing him by the neck on every goddamn play...

The same thing was being done to Derrick Thomas when he played for the Chiefs in the 90's. Less than half the time he was being held was it actually called.

dallaschiefsfan
12-18-2011, 03:16 PM
Think about how good Hali would be if they weren't grabbing him by the neck on every goddamn play...

Yeah...I'm not sure why this doesn't get called more often. It's pretty blatent. I counted 2-3 facemask grabs on Hali where the Ref just ignored it. It seems we get called for quite a bit less...

RINGLEADER
12-19-2011, 01:56 PM
What's great is that we didn't have to blitz to pressure Rodgers.

Red Beans
12-19-2011, 02:09 PM
It was nice to see Bailey in there getting a sack. He looks to have a bit of potential as well...

WhiteWhale
12-19-2011, 02:15 PM
I hate to point this out, but KC did not run a blitz heavy defense yesterday.

Romeo called the same type of game yesterday that he's been crucified on this forum for running, it's just that the PLAYERS got pressure on the QB.

Romeo's a hack DC who the game has passed by though. This D is obsolete and so forth...

Saul Good
12-19-2011, 02:17 PM
It was nice to see Bailey in there getting a sack. He looks to have a bit of potential as well...

That was a monster sack, too. Guarantee Rogers feels that one today.

cabletech94
12-19-2011, 02:18 PM
[QUOTE=WhiteWhale;8219897]I hate to point this out, but KC did not run a blitz heavy defense yesterday.



I like your take. Although it seems kinda like post #6.

Saul Good
12-19-2011, 02:19 PM
I hate to point this out, but KC did not run a blitz heavy defense yesterday.

Romeo called the same type of game yesterday that he's been crucified on this forum for running, it's just that the PLAYERS got pressure on the QB.

Yep. That's even better. All I ask of a coach is to find ways to get your best players on the field and ask them to do what they do best as often as possible. For example, I don't want to see Houston in coverage. I want to see him attacking the QB.

WhiteWhale
12-19-2011, 02:19 PM
I like your take. Although it seems kinda like post #6.

Yeah, but I was actively calling out the know-it-all armchair DC's.

Red Beans
12-19-2011, 02:19 PM
That was a monster sack, too. Guarantee Rogers feels that one today.

Right up the gut. It was like the Center and Guard rolled out the red carpet for him...

Good stuff

bricks
12-19-2011, 02:19 PM
Think about how good Hali would be if they weren't grabbing him by the neck on every goddamn play...

He would definately be leading the league in sacks.

WhiteWhale
12-19-2011, 02:19 PM
Yep. That's even better. All I ask of a coach is to find ways to get your best players on the field and ask them to do what they do best as often as possible. For example, I don't want to see Houston in coverage. I want to see him attacking the QB.

I didn't like the way Romeo ran the D early in the season. Houston was specifically a guy who's skill were not being taken advantage of.

FAX
12-19-2011, 02:22 PM
I didn't like the way Romeo ran the D early in the season. Houston was specifically a guy who's skill were not being taken advantage of.

I wouldn't fault Crennel for that, Mr. WhiteWhale. It takes time to bring a rookie linebacker up to speed. On several occasions, Houston has said he was a little lost out there at first.

Plus, Houston held out. Basically, the first 10 games were his training camp.

FAX

Saul Good
12-19-2011, 02:24 PM
Right up the gut. It was like the Center and Guard rolled out the red carpet for him...

Good stuff

Not really. The Guard, #62, took him head-on, and Bailey just shoved him to the side like it was a high school kid.

Saul Good
12-19-2011, 02:25 PM
I wouldn't fault Crennel for that, Mr. WhiteWhale. It takes time to bring a rookie linebacker up to speed. On several occasions, Houston has said he was a little lost out there at first.

Plus, Houston held out. Basically, the first 10 games were his training camp.

FAX

I agree, but it's not too hard to just send him after the QB in obvious passing situations.

WhiteWhale
12-19-2011, 02:25 PM
I wouldn't fault Crennel for that, Mr. WhiteWhale. It takes time to bring a rookie linebacker up to speed. On several occasions, Houston has said he was a little lost out there at first.

Plus, Houston held out. Basically, the first 10 games were his training camp.

FAX

Hmmm, perhaps I did not make clear what I meant.

I think in the preseason most fans had grasped what Houston excelled at: Rushing the QB.

Houston was not buried on the bench while learning, he was actually starting week 1. For a linebacker learning a scheme with little experience, rushing the QB would seemingly be the easiest way to get him involved. For some reason we did not do that, and he was often dropping into coverage. Coverage is more nuanced than rushing the QB, and thus usually requires more knowledge and experience. Rushing the QB is more like running with the football... the good ones usually are pretty good at it right away.

It seems that the way he was being utilized early was less suited to his specific skillset than what is being asked of him now.

cabletech94
12-19-2011, 02:26 PM
Yeah, but I was actively calling out the know-it-all armchair DC's.

:clap:Thats great. Really. I'm the last arm chair guy, That anyone should listen to, thats for sure. I pretty much only deal in sarcasm.
It was fun to watch the D come together yesterday.

Fish
12-19-2011, 02:31 PM
Hmmm, perhaps I did not make clear what I meant.

I think in the preseason most fans had grasped what Houston excelled at: Rushing the QB.

Houston was not buried on the bench while learning, he was actually starting week 1. For a linebacker learning a scheme with little experience, rushing the QB would seemingly be the easiest way to get him involved. For some reason we did not do that, and he was often dropping into coverage. Coverage is more nuanced than rushing the QB, and thus usually requires more knowledge and experience. Rushing the QB is more like running with the football... the good ones usually are pretty good at it right away.

It seems that the way he was being utilized early was less suited to his specific skillset than what is being asked of him now.

Perhaps that was by design to get him acclimated with the areas of his game that he struggled with? Maybe they wanted him to be more of a complete LB instead of just being a pass rush specialist? And what we're seeing now is the maturation of the process...