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Phobia
12-20-2011, 04:53 AM
It would seem coaches over 63 aren't lucky.

Because Marv Levy's age made Scott Norwood miss that kick. He just couldn't put it through the uprights because of his ancient coach.

|Zach|
12-20-2011, 04:56 AM
I would be fine with it.

Count Alex's Losses
12-20-2011, 05:02 AM
Because Marv Levy's age made Scott Norwood miss that kick. He just couldn't put it through the uprights because of his ancient coach.

Even if Norwood makes it, you're still only looking at 4 coaches in 40+ years.

I'm sure the stars will align for our franchise in the next four years under Romeo, though.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 05:26 AM
Even if Norwood makes it, you're still only looking at 4 coaches in 40+ years.

I'm sure the stars will align for our franchise in the next four years under Romeo, though.

Okay, let's play it your way then. Since your probability stick goes both ways then the Chiefs franchise has won one out of 44 SuperBowls. Wouldn't that mean, using your logic, that any coach KC hired would be unable to win a SuperBowl? I mean, since you're using statistics and history to determine the age window of our next head coach? I'd like to figure out your exact algorithm... What should be the ideal age, Clay?

Have there been any red-headed SuperBowl winning coaches? We need to figure these important factors out in advance before we submit our approved candidate list to Clark.

Count Alex's Losses
12-20-2011, 05:37 AM
the Chiefs franchise has won one out of 44 SuperBowls. Wouldn't that mean, using your logic, that any coach KC hired would be unable to win a SuperBowl?

No. Because each Chiefs team is different, with it's own set of independent variables.

For instance, one of those variables - we keep hiring shitty head coaches. We have now had 5 head coaches in 13 years. So we should definitely seek to continue this trend with another short-term hire.

Rausch
12-20-2011, 05:38 AM
If you don't want Romeo as HC that's fine.

There are good arguments to be made there. Personally, I'm worried our D will take a step back.

But to make excuses like age is BS.

"It can't be done because it's never been done."

That's not a good reason to avoid something - it's the reason to do it...

Count Alex's Losses
12-20-2011, 05:40 AM
"It can't be done because it's never been done."

That's not a good reason to avoid something - it's the reason to do it...

I honestly can't believe I'm hearing this reasoning after all the debates over drafting first round QBs on here in the last 5 years.

Rausch
12-20-2011, 05:46 AM
I honestly can't believe I'm hearing this reasoning after all the debates over drafting first round QBs on here in the last 5 years.

It's early (or late for some of us) but I'm not sure I follow.

I don't think we can't draft a QB just because we haven't.

I don't think it's impossible for Pioli to change his MO and trade up.

I don't think it's impossible for a team that hasn't won a playoff game in 2 decades to win one.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 05:49 AM
No. Because each Chiefs team is different, with it's own set of independent variables.

LMAO. Each 64 year old head coach is different, with his own set of independent variables.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 05:50 AM
It's early (or late for some of us) but I'm not sure I follow.

I don't think we can't draft a QB just because we haven't.

I don't think it's impossible for Pioli to change his MO and trade up.

I don't think it's impossible for a team that hasn't won a playoff game in 2 decades to win one.

But... 50 years of NFL history...

Count Alex's Losses
12-20-2011, 05:50 AM
LMAO. Each 64 year old head coach is different, with his own set of independent variables.

I'd argue they are less different than a team comprised of many individuals.

Count Alex's Losses
12-20-2011, 05:55 AM
Here is a good comparison:

Head coaches 60 and over who won Super Bowls: 3 (Ewbank, Vermeil, Coughlin)

Quarterbacks 35 and over who won Super Bowls: 4 (Elway, Plunkett, Staubach, Unitas)

Maybe we could trade for Manning and hire Romeo, though. Let's spit in fate's eye.

Rausch
12-20-2011, 05:59 AM
I'd argue they are less different than a team comprised of many individuals.

I'd argue Romeo, DV, and Marv Levy are about as different as HC's get.

I always thought Marv would flop out with a heart attack on the sidelines.

Rausch
12-20-2011, 06:03 AM
Here is a good comparison:

Head coaches 60 and over who won Super Bowls: 3 (Ewbank, Vermeil, Coughlin)

Quarterbacks 35 and over who won Super Bowls: 4 (Elway, Plunkett, Staubach, Unitas)

Maybe we could trade for Manning and hire Romeo, though. Let's spit in fate's eye.

What are the odds of drafting a top 10 QB and him winning a SB?

What are the odds of getting married and not getting divorced?

What are the odds of having a child without any type of abnormality?

There are no guarantees in life...

Count Alex's Losses
12-20-2011, 08:14 AM
This is amusing. LMAO

Crennel used The Gladiator to help get his team ready for this game. He'd seen it last weekend in the hotel, before the Chiefs played the Jets, and he took some Russell Crowe into the Saturday night team meeting with him. "I told the team that, like the gladiator, we were going to play a great team in Green Bay, and no matter what comes out of these gates, we've got to stay together,'' Crennel said. "We did that. I told them after the game, 'Everyone expected us to die with honor today. But we're not ready to die.' ''

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/12/19/Week15/index.html#ixzz1h5HXDzDx

Rausch
12-20-2011, 08:19 AM
This is amusing. LMAO

And he beat an undefeated team.

I don't care if he threw pop-tarts at the cheerleaders.

Win is win is win is win...

splatbass
12-20-2011, 09:10 AM
"It can't be done because it's never been done."

That's not a good reason to avoid something - it's the reason to do it...

If we had used this reasoning throughout history we would still be living in caves.

Dexter Manley
12-20-2011, 09:17 AM
"If you don't want Romeo as HC"


then by all means, toss that chair at Geraldo!!!

Rausch
12-20-2011, 09:19 AM
If we had used this reasoning throughout history we would still be living in caves.

If we hadn't used this reasoning the world would still be fucking flat and we'd all be driving VW's...

htismaqe
12-20-2011, 10:16 AM
I honestly can't believe I'm hearing this reasoning after all the debates over drafting first round QBs on here in the last 5 years.

At face value, your argument has merit.

When one realizes that you're against Romeo Crennel because you're FOR Jeff Fisher, it yanks quite a bit of legitimacy from your argument.

History suggests that NEITHER Romeo nor Fisher would win a Super Bowl with the Chiefs. You can't have it both ways.

Coogs
12-20-2011, 10:22 AM
I know this probably won't be popular, but if we play the next 2 weeks like we played Sunday against the Pack, I'm not sure if I would make any changes to the coaching staff at all if they all want to stay. Both sides of the ball played very, very well. If we play well, and win them both, it does not matter to me if Denver or the Chargers wind up going to the playoffs, and we wind up outside looking in... that was lost earlier in the season.

BUT, if we show up Sunday and look like we did against the Jets, Dolphins, Lions, Bills, etc., all bets are off, and I would continue with the coaching search. Same thing if we look good Sunday against the Faid, then come out and let the Tebow's hang 300 yards rushig on us and literally run us out of town.

Count Alex's Losses
12-20-2011, 10:41 AM
History suggests that NEITHER Romeo nor Fisher would win a Super Bowl with the Chiefs.

12 Super Bowls have been won by retreads. So I disagree.

htismaqe
12-20-2011, 10:50 AM
12 Super Bowls have been won by retreads. So I disagree.

Fisher isn't just any retread and we both know that.

Okie_Apparition
12-20-2011, 11:55 AM
Gochiefs was madly in love with Shanahan about three years ago
It may have worked out differently here than Washington
he's not doing so hot for the Redskins