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Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 06:59 PM
Orton 4th
Palko undrafted
Cassel 7th
Croyle 3rd
Thigpen undrafted
Huard undrafted
Green 8th
Grback 8th
Moon undrafted
Gannon 4th
Bono 6th
Krieg undrafted
Montana 3rd
Vlasic 4th
DeBerg 10th
Peuller 5th
Jaworski 2nd

Hudson 7th
Hudson, selected by Kansas City in the 1987 NFL Draft, was the last quarterback drafted by the Chiefs to start a game until Brodie Croyle(3rd in 2007 draft) wiki

Seurer 3rd
Stevens undrafted
Blackledge 1st
Kenney 12th
Fuller 1st
Adams 14th
Livingston 2nd
Lee 6th
Beathard 1st & 1st
Wilson 2nd & 3rd
Dawson 1st
Duncan 1st
Enis ?
Davidson 1st

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According to wiki

The number of games started in the season by each player is listed in small parentheses. Statistics do not include post-season starts.


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1960 Cotton Davidson (13) / Hunter Enis (1) [4][15][16]

1961 Cotton Davidson (12) / Randy Duncan (2) [17][18]

1962 Len Dawson (14) [19][20]

1963 Len Dawson (13) / Eddie Wilson (1) [21][22]

1964 Len Dawson (14) [23]

1965 Len Dawson (12) / Pete Beathard (2) [24][25]

1966 Len Dawson (14) [26]

1967 Len Dawson (14) [27]

1968 Len Dawson (13) / Jacky Lee (1) [28][29]

1969 Len Dawson (7) / Jacky Lee (1) / Mike Livingston (6) [30][31]

1970 Len Dawson (12) / Mike Livingston (2) [32]

1971 Len Dawson (13) / Mike Livingston (1) [33]

1972 Len Dawson (12) / Mike Livingston (2) [34]

1973 Mike Livingston (8) / Len Dawson (6) [35]

1974 Len Dawson (8) / Mike Livingston (6) [36]

1975 Mike Livingston (7) / Len Dawson (5) / Tony Adams (2) [2][37]

1976 Mike Livingston (14) [38]

1977 Mike Livingston (11) / Tony Adams (3) [39][40]

1978[a] Mike Livingston (14) / Tony Adams (2) [41]

1979 Steve Fuller (12) / Mike Livingston (4) [2][42][43]

1980 Steve Fuller (13) / Bill Kenney (3) [2][44][45]

1981 Bill Kenney (13) / Steve Fuller (3) [46]

1982[b] Bill Kenney (6) / Steve Fuller (3) [47]

1983 Bill Kenney (16) [48]

1984 Todd Blackledge (8) / Bill Kenney (8) [2][49][50]

1985 Todd Blackledge (6) / Bill Kenney (10) [51]

1986 Bill Kenney (8) / Todd Blackledge (8) [52]

1987[b][d] Bill Kenney (8) / Todd Blackledge (2) / Matt Stevens (2) / Frank
Seurer (2) / Doug Hudson (1) [2][53][54][55][56]

1988 Steve DeBerg (11) / Bill Kenney (5) [2][57][58]

1989 Steve DeBerg (10) / Ron Jaworski (3) / Steve Pelluer (3) [2][59][60][61]

1990 Steve DeBerg (16) [62]

1991 Steve DeBerg (15) / Mark Vlasic (1) [2][63][64]

1992 Dave Krieg (16) [2][65][66]

1993 Joe Montana (11) / Dave Krieg (5) [2][67][68]

1994 Joe Montana (14) / Steve Bono (2) [2][69][70]

1995 Steve Bono (16) [71]

1996 Steve Bono (13) / Rich Gannon (3) [2][72][73]

1997 Elvis Grbac (10) / Rich Gannon (6) [2][74][75]

1998 Rich Gannon (10) / Elvis Grbac (6) [76]

1999 Elvis Grbac (16) [77]

2000 Elvis Grbac (15) / Warren Moon (1) [2][14][78]

2001 Trent Green (16) [79][80]

2002 Trent Green (16) [81]

2003 Trent Green (16) [82]

2004 Trent Green (16) [83]

2005 Trent Green (16) [84]

2006 Trent Green (8) / Damon Huard (8) [85][86]

2007 Damon Huard (10) / Brodie Croyle (6) [87][88]

2008[e] Tyler Thigpen (11) / Damon Huard (3) / Brodie Croyle (2) [8][12][89]

2009 Matt Cassel (15) / Brodie Croyle (1) [90]

2010 Matt Cassel (15) / Brodie Croyle (1) [91]

2011 Matt Cassel (9) / Tyler Palko (5) / Kyle Orton (1)

KCrockaholic
12-19-2011, 07:00 PM
wtf?

Reerun_KC
12-19-2011, 07:01 PM
This thread has hoc potential.

Bacon Cheeseburger
12-19-2011, 07:01 PM
How about we help you off of a steep cliff instead?

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 07:02 PM
I think Jonathon Quinn is next

Phobia
12-19-2011, 07:04 PM
I think I will pass.

headsnap
12-19-2011, 07:05 PM
The Maytag Repairman...

KCrockaholic
12-19-2011, 07:06 PM
Marques Hagans.

headsnap
12-19-2011, 07:09 PM
I think I will pass.

what round did you go in?

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 07:11 PM
I'm missing one of Herm's gems

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 07:12 PM
Did Bubby Brister start a game
-nope he didn't make it out of TC

KC Tattoo
12-19-2011, 07:15 PM
Let's not forget Casey Printers, tho he did not start the season. He was hand picked to be QBotf/ CeePee

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 07:17 PM
I'm think Herm had a 7th rounder with a strange name
ooh Kilian
-nope cut

AustinChief
12-19-2011, 07:20 PM
Bono 6th
Kreig ufa
DeBerg 10th
Kenney 12th

AustinChief
12-19-2011, 07:22 PM
Fuller 1st
Livingston 2nd
Dawson 1st
Davidson 1st

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 07:22 PM
Printers never made above the PS

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 07:23 PM
Fuller 1st
Livingston 2nd
Dawson 1st
Davidson 1st

THis is more pathetic than I thought
like Bugeater

tredadda
12-19-2011, 07:24 PM
Montana-3rd round

headsnap
12-19-2011, 07:27 PM
The Maytag Repairman...

TODD COLLINS!!!!

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 07:28 PM
Ooh Jaws

Todd Collins $ I knew I missed a Herm one

KC Tattoo
12-19-2011, 07:30 PM
Dave Krieg undrafted FA

AustinChief
12-19-2011, 07:30 PM
Ok from the beginning... QBs who started at least 1 game


Cotton Davidson 1st
Hunter Enis ??? ufa?
Randy Duncan 1st
Len Dawson 1st
Eddie Wilson 2nd & 3rd
Pete Beathard 1st & 1st
Jacky Lee 6th
Mike Livingston 2nd

Ok that covers the 60s

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 07:31 PM
Collins was a 2nd rounder
I'm using wiki LMAO
~unbelievable, Collins is not officially listed as a Chiefs' starter

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 07:38 PM
Peuller was a 5th rounder with Jaws
doesn't say if he started

AustinChief
12-19-2011, 07:44 PM
Ok from the beginning... QBs who started at least 1 game


Cotton Davidson 1st
Hunter Enis ??? ufa?
Randy Duncan 1st
Len Dawson 1st
Eddie Wilson 2nd & 3rd
Pete Beathard 1st & 1st
Jacky Lee 6th
Mike Livingston 2nd

Ok that covers the 60s
And now the 70s..

Tony Adams 14th
Steve Fuller 1st

And the 80s...

Bill Kenney 12th
Todd Blackledge 1st
Matt Stevens ufa
Frank Seurer 3rd
Doug Hudson 7th
Steve DeBerg 10th
Ron Jaworski 2nd
Steve Pelluer 5th

90s...

Mark Vlasic 4th
Dave Kreig ufa
Joe Montana 3rd
Steve Bono 6th
Rich Gannon 4th
Elvis Grbac 8th

00s...

Warren Moon ufa
Trent Green 8th
Damon Huard ufa
Brodie Croyle 3rd
Tyler Thigpen 7th
Matt Cassel 7th

10s...

Tyler Palko ufa
Kyle Orton 4th

AND DONE!

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 08:01 PM
Much thanks Austin Chief

ChiefsCountry
12-19-2011, 08:06 PM
And now the 70s..

Tony Adams 14th
Steve Fuller 1st

And the 80s...

Bill Kenney 12th
Todd Blackledge 1st
Matt Stevens ufa
Frank Seurer 3rd
Steve DeBerg 10th
Ron Jaworski 2nd
Steve Pelluer 5th

90s...

Mark Vlasic 4th
Dave Kreig ufa
Joe Montana 1st
Steve Bono 6th
Rich Gannon 4th
Elvis Grbac 8th

00s...

Warren Moon ufa
Trent Green 8th
Damon Huard ufa
Brodie Croyle 3rd
Tyler Thigpen 7th
Matt Cassel 7th

10s...

Tyler Palko ufa
Kyle Orton 4th

AND DONE!

Montana was a 3rd round pick.

Put it this way, the Chiefs haven't a first round pick at the QB on the roster since Blackledge in 1987. Even when they pick up other teams quarterbacks it was always a low round player. 24 YEARS without a single first round pick of anybody's at the QB position.

KCrockaholic
12-19-2011, 08:13 PM
Montana was a 3rd round pick.

Put it this way, the Chiefs haven't a first round pick at the QB on the roster since Blackledge in 1987. Even when they pick up other teams quarterbacks it was always a low round player. 24 YEARS without a single first round pick of anybody's at the QB position.

Blackledge 1983.

AustinChief
12-19-2011, 08:26 PM
Montana was a 3rd round pick.

Put it this way, the Chiefs haven't a first round pick at the QB on the roster since Blackledge in 1987. Even when they pick up other teams quarterbacks it was always a low round player. 24 YEARS without a single first round pick of anybody's at the QB position.

yup, fixed it. Also added Doug Hudson (started one game in 1987, lasted 5 whole minutes....he was a 7th round pick)

What is sad is how CLEAR the correlation is to us winning the AFL/AFC and having a slew of 1st round QBs on the roster... apparently we REALLY knew what we were doing in the 60s and have been pretty clueless since.

ChiefsCountry
12-19-2011, 08:28 PM
Blackledge 1983.

Thats drafted, I am talking about on the roster at all.

tecumseh
12-19-2011, 08:33 PM
Hard to believe Warren Moon UFA.

Okie_Apparition
12-19-2011, 08:36 PM
Hudson, selected by Kansas City in the 1987 NFL Draft, was the last quarterback drafted by the Chiefs to start a game until Brodie Croyle(wiki)

KCrockaholic
12-19-2011, 08:38 PM
Thats drafted, I am talking about on the roster at all.

Oh, I see.

bricks
12-19-2011, 09:19 PM
Montana was a 3rd round pick.

Put it this way, the Chiefs haven't a first round pick at the QB on the roster since Blackledge in 1987. Even when they pick up other teams quarterbacks it was always a low round player. 24 YEARS without a single first round pick of anybody's at the QB position.

I wonder if any other franchise has that drought?

ChiefsCountry
12-19-2011, 09:20 PM
I wonder if any other franchise has that drought?

No. Saints are the longer than us in drafting a first round QB, but they had Jim Everrett for a few years who was a first round pick of the Rams.

BigChiefFan
12-19-2011, 09:21 PM
Good Lord, that is disgraceful.

chefsos
12-19-2011, 10:11 PM
I recall that Adams was signed after a pretty good year in the WFL in 1974. But yeah, after looking it up, he was indeed drafted in the 14th round (by SD) in '73.

Epic Fail 007
12-19-2011, 10:26 PM
BRODIE CROYLE FOR PRESIDENT!LOL

DenverChief
12-19-2011, 10:52 PM
Man I forgot about Dave Kreig...http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/863/PreviewComp/SuperStock_863-W125.jpg

BigMeatballDave
12-19-2011, 11:00 PM
Jfc how sad is that list?

I need to laugh to keep from crying.

RustShack
12-19-2011, 11:00 PM
vomit.

KC Tattoo
12-19-2011, 11:16 PM
Matt Blundin 2nd round pick, iirc tried about four pass plays, and that was that.

Dexter Manley
12-20-2011, 05:17 AM
I did pan NE for spending a 7th on Cassel in real time...

Little did I know Billy B would be able to dump him for a high second to a "genius" NFL FO operative...

milkshock
12-20-2011, 05:26 AM
Good Lord, that is disgraceful.

this.

an absolutely shameful list.

Rausch
12-20-2011, 05:41 AM
Honestly, if Girlbac was an 8th round pick I have to admit he overachieved.

He fucking downed us as a franchise but he overachieved...

Rausch
12-20-2011, 05:51 AM
Orton 4th
Palko undrafted
Cassel 7th
Croyle 3rd
Thigpen undrafted
Huard undrafted
Green 8th
Grback 8th
Moon undrafted
Gannon 4th
Bono 6th
Krieg undrafted
Montana 3rd
Vlasic 4th
DeBerg 10th
Peuller 5th
Jaworski 2nd

Hudson 7th
Hudson, selected by Kansas City in the 1987 NFL Draft, was the last quarterback drafted by the Chiefs to start a game until Brodie Croyle(3rd in 2007 draft) wiki

Seurer 3rd
Stevens undrafted
Blackledge 1st
Kenney 12th
Fuller 1st
Adams 14th
Livingston 2nd
Lee 6th
Beathard 1st & 1st
Wilson 2nd & 3rd
Dawson 1st
Duncan 1st
Enis ?
Davidson 1st

So, according to this our "best" QB's have been: Green 8th, Grback 8th, Gannon 4th, Montana 3rd, Dawson 1st, and DeBerg 10th.

It's not about when you pick them.

It's about how you pick them, who coaches them, and who they have around them...