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Brianfo
12-19-2011, 09:02 PM
Have you ever contemplated suicide? I have, I think about it everyday. I think my kids and wife would be better off without me. My wife is an absolute angel. She did not deserve to be stuck with me. I know that it's the right thing to do. But it's cowardly. I know for a fact that I am going to hell. I love my kids and wife so much, but I have not been a good father.

QuikSsurfer
12-19-2011, 09:03 PM
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f86/quikssurfer/33mc46h.gif

luv
12-19-2011, 09:05 PM
I say you let them decide what they deserve. Take a vote.

Scorp
12-19-2011, 09:06 PM
WTF??? Antifreeze!

Count Alex's Losses
12-19-2011, 09:06 PM
There's no hell, retard.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-19-2011, 09:07 PM
This isn't going to help turn your rep green.

Marcellus
12-19-2011, 09:07 PM
Get some help, there is nothing normal about contemplating suicide, it means you have problems that only professional help can solve.

Your wife and kids will be effected the rest of their lives in a negative manner.

Get off CP and get help.

chasedude
12-19-2011, 09:08 PM
Ok, what inside joke did I miss this time?

whosyou
12-19-2011, 09:09 PM
Matt Cassel?

DMAC
12-19-2011, 09:09 PM
Jeez. Take a shit and man up.

Mr_Tomahawk
12-19-2011, 09:10 PM
Is this serious?

If so...

Get some help. Talk to someone in person. There are plenty of resources out their.

Count Alex's Losses
12-19-2011, 09:10 PM
Brianfo = Todd Haley?

Marcellus
12-19-2011, 09:11 PM
Brianfo = Todd Haley?

Haley has already been to hell working with Pioli, he is now in heaven with big $$$.

Shogun
12-19-2011, 09:12 PM
Honestly. This may come off as Harsh but maybe it will be for the Good. Take a harden the fuck up pill. You live in a great country, some proclaim its the greatest. You have every opportunity to be happy. Some people don't even have access to water and food around the world, and you have it bad? Do something to make yourself happy, fuck that, you have children, you should live for them, because millions of people can't even have kids and would love to have them, that alone is enough reason to stay alive. You have it much much much better than a good % of the worlds people, take that into perspective next time you think about it. Also, Seek therapy, because you need it. Life is not all sunshine and butterflies, but there are plenty of things to live for in this world that you can look at and find beauty in. You need a happy place. My best friend killed himself because he was 'unhappy' or felt like a burden to his family. You know what I resent that prick for it and his family is miserable.

L.A. Chieffan
12-19-2011, 09:12 PM
Bro it could be worse. You could be a browns fan

Buck
12-19-2011, 09:12 PM
Don't do it please.

Fat Elvis
12-19-2011, 09:12 PM
Suicide is never a good answer or solution. Get help; things get better. It doesn't matter if you've been a good father or bad father, good husband or bad husband-no one is better off if someone they love commits suicide.

Get help immediately. Call a friend. Call a hospital. Call anyone and just talk. Make to tomorrow.

Good luck and God Bless.

The Iron Chief
12-19-2011, 09:13 PM
Get some help, there is nothing normal about contemplating suicide, it means you have problems that only professional help can solve.

Your wife and kids will be effected the rest of their lives in a negative manner.

Get off CP and get help.

^
This

Unless I'm missing a joke and your not being serious I think you need to think of those around you give yourself a kick in the a$$ and turn it around one day at a time.
Make a list of the daily things you think your doing wrong and how much better in time youd feel if you erased some of those things listed.

Gl & think of the kids especially

Pawnmower
12-19-2011, 09:13 PM
there are free or low cost counselors available, call one

it will help you

-King-
12-19-2011, 09:16 PM
Get help. If not for you, then for your family. You really think having a dead father/husband is going to make their life any better? Grow some balls, and get professional help.
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Johnny Vegas
12-19-2011, 09:16 PM
If you spent your first half of life being a bad father take a lesson from it. Use the next half of your life being a great father. Its a 2nd chance for redemption. Nobody ever said this life was gonna be easy. Others have it worse than you. What kind of text do you want to leave on your tombstone for everyone to remember you by?

Fat Elvis
12-19-2011, 09:17 PM
1-800-273-8255

Suicide Prevention Hotline. Seriously.

ClearmontChief
12-19-2011, 09:17 PM
Have you ever contemplated suicide? I have, I think about it everyday. I think my kids and wife would be better off without me. My wife is an absolute angel. She did not deserve to be stuck with me. I know that it's the right thing to do. But it's cowardly. I know for a fact that I am going to hell. I love my kids and wife so much, but I have not been a good father.

Dude, I'm not sure you're serious or not, so many smartelics on here saying off the wall stuff all the time...

As a person who has suffered a suicide in the family, I agree it's cowardly. I feel it's the utmost in selfish decisions a person could ever make. All it does is transfer hurt and pain. Somebody who's contemplating that are obviously hurting and in pain about something. But, if successful, you pass your hurt, pain, and confusion on down the line. You angelic wife will turn stoic and your kids will carry guilt FOREVER that they had done something wrong.

My wife's father took his life. She's NEVER been the same. Used to be happy go lucky, a lot of fun to be around. Now, she's never happy...she's depressed and on all kinds of meds. Used to be she'd never take a Tylenol. She's ANGRY! Mad at the world with no patience for anything. Hurtful, hurtful words during arguments and when angry at the kids. I have to tell them "don't take anything personal when words are said in anger." That's helped them a lot. For me, I just hang on because she loves me, and I remember the way things used to be and live in the hope that she'll change back. But, I wouldn't count on it. She's still madder than hell at him, has never forgiven him and never will...and, thus his selfish act he just passed along his troubles to us.

Would you ever really want to have your kids feel that way? You say you've been a terrible dad. Well, that my friend would be ultimate child abuse. You'd ruin a bit of them forever. Don't ever do it, and consider speaking with a counselor or minister.

LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 09:18 PM
If you kill your self? & put that kind of guilt & shame on your Children & Wife? Turning they're worlds inside out.










I WILL FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE & I WILL PISS ON YOUR GRAVE !

kstater
12-19-2011, 09:18 PM
Do it. DO IT

siberian khatru
12-19-2011, 09:19 PM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSQDTgzoH0JlfuRj1OQtFBpAJ2dsPDOphudlEVtBM3uyWiMMAQcKJfva0oVuQ

RustShack
12-19-2011, 09:20 PM
It'll get better. Your kids wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you, so they really wouldn't be better off without you. You can get help, everything will work out.

L.A. Chieffan
12-19-2011, 09:20 PM
Its true killing yourself is the Bitch way out. it would Fuck up my kids

KurtCobain
12-19-2011, 09:21 PM
I'd say it's an excellent pr move.
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Rain Man
12-19-2011, 09:21 PM
Dude, you okay? If this is serious, let us know.

I can't lose you. I rely on you for good posts.

Shogun
12-19-2011, 09:21 PM
Also if youre just doing this for attention, fuck you.

if not refer to my post on page 1

VonneMarie
12-19-2011, 09:21 PM
If you kill your self? & put that kind of guilt & shame on your Children & Wife? Turning they're worlds inside out.










I WILL FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE & I WILL PISS ON YOUR GRAVE !
This

Don't do it, man. Seek help.

SPchief
12-19-2011, 09:21 PM
Get help man.



And dibs on his Casino Cash and post count

Brock
12-19-2011, 09:21 PM
The fuck? dude, go get help. Not here, like from a professional.

JohnnyHammersticks
12-19-2011, 09:22 PM
As long as you don't mind completely ruining your kids' lives, then fire away. Just know that your kids will carry it around with them for the rest of their lives. They'll never be able to experience a happy moment for the rest of their lives without catching themselves and thinking of you. Your cowardice will haunt them forever. They'll be burdened with guilt, they'll have anger issues, and your selfishness will make them much more likely to be suicide candidates themselves. Suicide is the last, most thoughtless, act reserved for only the most extreme of cowards. I heard the same bullshit line, "you'll be better off without me". Nobody ever is. Trust that I know what I'm talking about.

kstater
12-19-2011, 09:22 PM
Do it. DO IT

Be sure to run a webcam while you do it. You'll go down in glory.

KCUnited
12-19-2011, 09:23 PM
Can I have your casino cash?

Shogun
12-19-2011, 09:23 PM
Be sure to run a webcam while you do it. You'll go down in glory.

RIP Candyjunkie

RustShack
12-19-2011, 09:24 PM
Dude, you okay? If this is serious, let us know.

I can't lose you. I rely on you for good posts.

I think this is his first post I've read that wasn't bashing me. :eek:

Chiefnj2
12-19-2011, 09:25 PM
1-800-273-TALK (8255)

Call it. Now.

SPchief
12-19-2011, 09:25 PM
Can I have your casino cash?

I allready called dibs.

wazu
12-19-2011, 09:25 PM
I love my kids and wife so much...

If that's true, then you will get help. Now. And not just from Chiefsplanet.

Rain Man
12-19-2011, 09:25 PM
A friend of mine committed suicide a couple of years back. The weird thing was that she was liked and respected by so many people, and somehow she didn't recognize it. I still occasionally see someone walking down the street who looks a little bit like her, and it's frustrating all over again to think about it. If she had talked to any of us we could have helped her or supported her.

Even if we don't think so, we're valued by more people than we think.

kstater
12-19-2011, 09:25 PM
Dude, you okay? If this is serious, let us know.

I can't lose you. I rely on you for good posts.

LMAO

Chocolate Hog
12-19-2011, 09:26 PM
Get professional help man don't do this to your kids. It's only temporary they'll get you feeling better.

LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 09:27 PM
Its Xmas time. At least wait till the day Obama gets reelected

Baconeater
12-19-2011, 09:28 PM
Calm down dude, the Fisher thing was just a rumor.

Contrarian
12-19-2011, 09:28 PM
So you're saying you've been an asshole.......welcome to the club. We're all assholes at one time or another. Better to be a live one than a dead one though. Now if you cornholed your kids and curb stomped your wife on any occassion I think you know the answer yourself. You're a Raiders fan.

Chiefnj2
12-19-2011, 09:28 PM
When you say you haven't been a good father, is that like "I missed a school play" or a Sandusky? You might want to get the kids some help too.

kstater
12-19-2011, 09:30 PM
Just remember, ammo's only getting more expensive if Obama gets re-elected. Now's your chance to do it on the cheap.

KurtCobain
12-19-2011, 09:30 PM
Frame your wife if you do decide to do it.
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LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 09:30 PM
Only 24 post away from a 1000 to. Join date April 2002. Thats 10 years man.

I think you should at see it threw to a 1000

Rain Man
12-19-2011, 09:31 PM
LMAO

My relationship with Brianfo isn't particularly deep, but it's one of the many squares that collectively create the patchwork quilt of my life. I don't need a hole where my left foot goes.

Chiefnj2
12-19-2011, 09:32 PM
You'll ruin Christmas and the Holiday's for your kids for the rest of their lives. Get some help in the meantime and reassess your life around Groundhog Day.

Simply Red
12-19-2011, 09:33 PM
Get a goddamn job, Brianfo.

You got a negative attitude. That's what's stopping you.

You gotta get your act together. I'll help you.

Shogun
12-19-2011, 09:33 PM
If I find out you did it and it ruins my christmas, im going to neg you.

Simply Red
12-19-2011, 09:34 PM
in all seriousness - you need to make a call and talk.

ForeverChiefs58
12-19-2011, 09:34 PM
Have you ever contemplated suicide? I have, I think about it everyday. I think my kids and wife would be better off without me. My wife is an absolute angel. She did not deserve to be stuck with me. I know that it's the right thing to do. But it's cowardly. I know for a fact that I am going to hell. I love my kids and wife so much, but I have not been a good father.


Think about your kids. Think about how they would feel. Whatever you have done, nothing would compare to the selfishness of suicide. Not sure the relationship you had with your own Dad, but you need to talk with someone who can help you with how you are feeling.

Always think of your kids and what is best for them. Live your life for them. It is NEVER too late to start over. NEVER too late to being a good dad and good husband. Be your best, and everyone will love you for it. Even if you feel worthless, never quit trying.

You wouldn't want one of your kids killing themselves or taking the easy way out and quitting on everyone so don't set them an example they may follow. Do all you can to get better and have a better outlook.

Think of the advise you would give them if they were feeling low, and use it yourself.

KurtCobain
12-19-2011, 09:34 PM
You'll ruin Christmas and the Holiday's for your kids for the rest of their lives. Get some help in the meantime and reassess your life around Groundhog Day.

I hate how the holidays are a mandatory give a fuck time.
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loochy
12-19-2011, 09:34 PM
Lol no wtf

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-19-2011, 09:35 PM
Get a goddamn job, Brianfo.

You got a negative attitude. That's what's stopping you.

You gotta get your act together. I'll help you.

Are you going to dress him in sharp and fashonable clothing?








I kid...

:)

But are you?

Shogun
12-19-2011, 09:35 PM
I hate how the holidays are a mandatory give a fuck time.
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Im taking back your christmas present prick!

Rain Man
12-19-2011, 09:35 PM
Frame your wife if you do decide to do it.
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I'll give him $500 if he frames someone I don't like instead. Hey, brianfo, what do you think? Do we have a deal? Assuming you're serious, of course. But I'd rather keep the $500 and just keep our options open.

Terribilis
12-19-2011, 09:37 PM
anyone remember this?

http://mashable.com/2008/11/20/19-year-old-lifecaster-commits-suicide-on-justintv-smcb/

Superturtle
12-19-2011, 09:37 PM
It IS devastating that K-Mart canceled layaway...

Shogun
12-19-2011, 09:37 PM
anyone remember this?

http://mashable.com/2008/11/20/19-year-old-lifecaster-commits-suicide-on-justintv-smcb/

Once again, RIP CandyJunkie

Bane
12-19-2011, 09:41 PM
Calm down there buddy.Lets grab a cold one and talk about it.:toast::toast:

Terribilis
12-19-2011, 09:43 PM
Once again, RIP CandyJunkie
my fault, missed that post.

scho63
12-19-2011, 09:43 PM
Have you ever contemplated suicide? I have, I think about it everyday. I think my kids and wife would be better off without me. My wife is an absolute angel. She did not deserve to be stuck with me. I know that it's the right thing to do. But it's cowardly. I know for a fact that I am going to hell. I love my kids and wife so much, but I have not been a good father.

We all have a lot of pressure and problems that plague us and we each handle that pressure in different ways. You obviously have allowed that pressure and stress to build up to the point that you are on this board posting about suicide.

Make the call and speak with someone who can help you professionally or seek out your local support.

The only people you will hurt for the rest of their lives are the same people you think you will be helping by ending your life. There is nothing that cannot be resolved and no mistake that another human being has not already made.

People are much more forgiving and understanding than you can imagine.

Asking for help is not a sign of weakness but a sign of strength.

Please seek help immediately from a professional.

God Bless you and good luck.

KurtCobain
12-19-2011, 09:44 PM
I won't stop being concerned for this guy's safety until he swears that he doesn't have a gun.

huffmd15
12-19-2011, 09:45 PM
As others have said, suicide is the most selfish act I could imagine. Its a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

I had a boss a few years ago that ate a bullet after talking me through a difficult situation and stressing to me that you have to open up and talk to people you trust and seek professional help if it becomes an issue.

Don't be embarased or ashamed to ask for help. If I had the opportunity I would kick him in the nuts so hard right now.

Predarat
12-19-2011, 09:48 PM
If you off yourself, you will be sent to a special hell where you have to watch the Lin Elli-oops game over and over and over and over again for eternity.

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-19-2011, 09:50 PM
What's there to lose by changing your attitude then? Screw thinking about "hell". Live your damn life and make an effort to be a good father. There is nothing stopping you but yourself.

LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 09:50 PM
Dam he logged off

teedubya
12-19-2011, 09:51 PM
If you are gonna end your life... go down in a Blaze of Glory... like knock out some of the global elite before you go. Maybe a Rockefeller or Rothschild or two. Quit being selfish!! :-) < /joke >

Baconeater
12-19-2011, 09:51 PM
I hate how the holidays are a mandatory give a fuck time.
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Only if you allow them to be.

Chiefnj2
12-19-2011, 09:52 PM
Anyone know him or have a # ?

LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 09:52 PM
Only if you allow them to be.

I haven't put the tree up yet.
Im a bad dad

Frazod
12-19-2011, 09:53 PM
Anyone know him or have a # ?

I think it's 1-800-DOUCHE.

Rain Man
12-19-2011, 09:54 PM
Anyone know him or have a # ?

Nope, don't have any contact info.

I hope he's okay. He seems like a good guy.

Rams Fan
12-19-2011, 09:54 PM
It's not worth it, man.

Shogun
12-19-2011, 09:54 PM
So did you just need to tell everybody youre thinking about suicide and leave? Dick move

Baconeater
12-19-2011, 09:54 PM
I haven't put the tree up yet.
Im a bad dad
I'm not sure why we put ours up, we don't buy very many gifts.

LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 09:55 PM
I'm not sure why we put ours up, we don't buy very many gifts.

Go kill your self why dont ya

KurtCobain
12-19-2011, 09:55 PM
I haven't put the tree up yet.
Im a bad dad

Damn, i guess that means you have to off yourself.
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LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 09:56 PM
Damn, i guess that means you have to off yourself.
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Fuck that. Thats for rock stars

Lumpy
12-19-2011, 09:57 PM
I can't help but feel completely helpless when someone mentions that they are contemplating suicide. But, you know that if you ever need anyone to talk to about this, make a phone call or pm someone on here. Many people are willing to help you, to be a shoulder, (including me), so PLEASE talk to someone... ANYONE!

Baconeater
12-19-2011, 09:57 PM
Go kill your self why dont ya
Not now, I'm having too much fun terrorizing the dog with the RC helicopter.

Baconeater
12-19-2011, 09:58 PM
Lumpy, I'm thinking about killing myself. Can I get yo digits?

LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 09:58 PM
Not now, I'm having too much fun terrorizing the dog with the RC helicopter.

OHHHHH man did you get one of those cool hellies that they are selling at the mall.

KurtCobain
12-19-2011, 09:58 PM
Only if you allow them to be.

If I ever gave a fuck
I'd stick my dick between my legs and cluck
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LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 09:59 PM
If I ever gave a fuck
I'd stick my dick between my legs and cluck
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I can fart in a tub of water & bite the bubbles

Baconeater
12-19-2011, 10:00 PM
OHHHHH man did you get one of those cool hellies that they are selling at the mall.
Yep. Although I'll be lucky if I don't destroy the damn thing before I learn how to fly it.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-19-2011, 10:00 PM
Suicide is never a good answer or solution. Get help; things get better. It doesn't matter if you've been a good father or bad father, good husband or bad husband-no one is better off if someone they love commits suicide.

Get help immediately. Call a friend. Call a hospital. Call anyone and just talk. Make to tomorrow.

Good luck and God Bless.

This. My older brother (and best friend, and coworker) killed himself 15 months and 26 days ago. He left behind a daughter who adored him, a mother and father who raised him the best they could, my sister and her family, and my family including my now 19 month old son who'll never get to know how awesome his uncle was.

The only person who benefited from his death was my absolute **** of an "ex" sister in law. Their divorce was to be final just days after he did it until she reneged on the agreement and told him she was going to drag him through it all again. It had already been a year of hell.

I miss him every day, as does everyone at work, and the whole family. Not one of us is better for him having done it. No matter how much you think it will sole things, the only person it doesn't cause an immense amount of pain is you.

SPchief
12-19-2011, 10:00 PM
Lumpy, I'm thinking about killing myself. Can I get yo digits?

LMAO

KurtCobain
12-19-2011, 10:01 PM
Lumpy, I'm thinking about killing myself. Can I get yo digits?

Hey, I killed killed nearly eightteen years ago, I get her digits first.
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Lumpy
12-19-2011, 10:01 PM
I don't normally do this, but some of the comments on this thread are really pissing me off and I'm about to go on a neg repping spree. I certainly know who the heartless bastards are on this board.

LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 10:03 PM
:popcorn:

notorious
12-19-2011, 10:04 PM
Leave everyone that loves you to suffer for the rest of their life because you are too big of a pussy to face your problems and grow stronger.

My friend did the same thing a month ago by putting a shotgun in his mouth and pulling the trigger. He is a coward.

His children will grow up knowing that their father would rather be dead than be with them. Their lives will be a disaster because he was a selfish pussy.

Grow. Figure out your problems and face them. Be honest with yourself and your family and you will come out stronger than you ever thought possible.

KurtCobain
12-19-2011, 10:04 PM
I don't normally do this, but some of the comments on this thread are really pissing me off and I'm about to go on a neg repping spree. I certainly know who the heartless bastards are on this board.

It just makes you want to kill yourself, doesn't it?
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Valiant
12-19-2011, 10:05 PM
Only one that hurts is their loved ones.. Killing yourself is the easy way out..

Baconeater
12-19-2011, 10:06 PM
Heh, I'm probably one of them. But good lord, this is absolutely the worst possible place to try to find the help he needs.

Lumpy
12-19-2011, 10:06 PM
It just makes you want to kill yourself, doesn't it?
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Joey, I like you. Don't make me neg rep the ever living shit out of you.

LiveSteam
12-19-2011, 10:07 PM
[QUOTE=Bugeater;8221350]Heh, I'm probably one of them. But good lord, this is absolutely the worst possible place to try to find the help he needs.[/QUOT

I have read some pretty sound advise. Mixed in with some funny banter

Chocolate Hog
12-19-2011, 10:10 PM
Hopefully the guy logged off to get help. I've heard usually people who are going to kill themselves don't announce it but either way Brainfo needs help. It is kinda fucked up people on here are mocking him when all of us fall on hard times.

Lumpy
12-19-2011, 10:11 PM
Heh, I'm probably one of them. But good lord, this is absolutely the worst possible place to try to find the help he needs.

Not yet. And no, you can't have my digits. :harumph:

I do agree that this should be the LAST place anyone should seek help. However, people need to understand that when someone is hurting they will turn to anyone that will listen.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-19-2011, 10:13 PM
Hopefully the guy logged off to get help. I've heard usually people who are going to kill themselves don't announce it but either way Brainfo needs help. It is kinda ****ed up people on here are mocking him when all of us fall on hard times.


times are different. there have been numerous incidents in the pastt year or two of people posting threads like this, and following through, often enduring the same jokes and ridicule as people have here. some people have a hard time separating real life and the internet in today's society, others don't have anyone they can talk to in real life. it is a myth that people that talk about it aren't serious.

Simply Red
12-19-2011, 10:15 PM
Not yet. And no, you can't have my digits. :harumph:

I do agree that this should be the LAST place anyone should seek help. However, people need to understand that when someone is hurting they will turn to anyone that will listen.

that's what's up





:clap:

KurtCobain
12-19-2011, 10:17 PM
brianfo needs to get on here on say he wont do it if we get lumpy nudes.
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listopencil
12-19-2011, 10:19 PM
Dude, I'm not sure you're serious or not, so many smartelics on here saying off the wall stuff all the time...

As a person who has suffered a suicide in the family, I agree it's cowardly. I feel it's the utmost in selfish decisions a person could ever make. All it does is transfer hurt and pain. Somebody who's contemplating that are obviously hurting and in pain about something. But, if successful, you pass your hurt, pain, and confusion on down the line. You angelic wife will turn stoic and your kids will carry guilt FOREVER that they had done something wrong.

My wife's father took his life. She's NEVER been the same. Used to be happy go lucky, a lot of fun to be around. Now, she's never happy...she's depressed and on all kinds of meds. Used to be she'd never take a Tylenol. She's ANGRY! Mad at the world with no patience for anything. Hurtful, hurtful words during arguments and when angry at the kids. I have to tell them "don't take anything personal when words are said in anger." That's helped them a lot. For me, I just hang on because she loves me, and I remember the way things used to be and live in the hope that she'll change back. But, I wouldn't count on it. She's still madder than hell at him, has never forgiven him and never will...and, thus his selfish act he just passed along his troubles to us.

Would you ever really want to have your kids feel that way? You say you've been a terrible dad. Well, that my friend would be ultimate child abuse. You'd ruin a bit of them forever. Don't ever do it, and consider speaking with a counselor or minister.


^

Chocolate Hog
12-19-2011, 10:19 PM
times are different. there have been numerous incidents in the pastt year or two of people posting threads like this, and following through, often enduring the same jokes and ridicule as people have here. some people have a hard time separating real life and the internet in today's society, others don't have anyone they can talk to in real life. it is a myth that people that talk about it aren't serious.

That's fucked up. I remember that one sports betting guy on here making a thread like this but as I recall he was just being an asshole unless something changed and I missed it?

Hmm. I recall a guy I went to HS with kill himself he was always very quiet seemed depressed but still we were surprised to hear the news. I can understand being depressed around this time of the year the weather is shitty and the holiday season is a pretty hard time for us who've lost someone recently. It gets better though and theres nothing wrong with getting help unfortunately we live in a society that makes you look like a dumbass if you admit weakness.

Iowanian
12-19-2011, 10:21 PM
I'm not going to bust someone's balls for a post like yours. Talking about it is better than doing it.

Suicide takes all of your problems and reasons you don't feel you can live and puts those problems squarely on the shoulders of those who care about you most and will be affected for their lifetimes as well.

Whatever your issue is, taking that option eliminates any chance to fix it.

If you feel you're a bad father or husband, get some help. Whatever your issue is, get some help, talk to someone who knows how to deal with it. On top of that, wake up in the morning and say to yourself in the mirror "today is the day I become a better father/husband" ....whatever. Kiss your wife, your kids and take 1 step to being that better person.

Maybe it is a simple breakfast conversation....ask about the pending day, whatever.

The action of which you speak is the worst thing you can do.

As for hell, I'm not your preacher, but there is a solution for that too. Ask for some help from the man himself. Ask for forgiveness, ask for strength and guidance.

You'll be alright.

Rain Man
12-19-2011, 10:23 PM
This. My older brother (and best friend, and coworker) killed himself 15 months and 26 days ago. He left behind a daughter who adored him, a mother and father who raised him the best they could, my sister and her family, and my family including my now 19 month old son who'll never get to know how awesome his uncle was.

The only person who benefited from his death was my absolute **** of an "ex" sister in law. Their divorce was to be final just days after he did it until she reneged on the agreement and told him she was going to drag him through it all again. It had already been a year of hell.

I miss him every day, as does everyone at work, and the whole family. Not one of us is better for him having done it. No matter how much you think it will sole things, the only person it doesn't cause an immense amount of pain is you.


Wow. Sorry to hear that. What a shame.

MrNightly
12-19-2011, 10:23 PM
Brianfo.... we all go through sucky times... I can say i understand where you are coming from, but every time a thought like that comes into my head, I think about my beautiful daughters and how they would miss their dad. They are only 5 and 7, and even though their mom ran off from us a couple years ago, and the divorce was nasty... you have to think about the kids.

I think this time of year really brings out bad thoughts in a lot of us too maybe... shoot me a pm and we can chat. Hell, maybe we should grab a drink and laugh about the wasted life we so futilely wallow in here... because usually after really thinking through things, there is always a single bright spot one can cling to.

I am flat out broke dude, but the drinks are on me. That's why god made Credit Cards right? :) Let's chat.

Tribal Warfare
12-19-2011, 10:24 PM
To me this is an epic troll thread started by the OP.

Al Bundy
12-19-2011, 10:29 PM
Get some professional help. Living life like that isn't good or productive.

Trevo_410
12-19-2011, 10:29 PM
I have S.A.D.- contemplating suicide everyday sadly comes with it...

just think of the good things

Iowanian
12-19-2011, 10:31 PM
To me this is an epic troll thread started by the OP.

I doubt it.

Are you really willing to try to push a guy over the edge this time of year?
There are threads and situations worthy of ridicule and jokes at the person's expense....but this is not a funny topic in any manner. There are plenty of stories like this one that don't have a happy ending.


Brian.
There isn't a worse solution. period.

MIAdragon
12-19-2011, 10:32 PM
To me this is an epic troll thread started by the OP.

if so an IP ban is in order. Get professional help, we're going to tell you to rub some dirt in it and stfu, not really what you need right now. But seriously dont be a pussy, take the hard path and correct whatever deficiencies you have and own up to your responsibilities. Id kick you in the balls if you were in front of me right now.

FAX
12-19-2011, 10:36 PM
I hope to God this isn't serious.

FAX

notorious
12-19-2011, 10:38 PM
I hope to God this isn't serious.

FAX

:(

crazycoffey
12-19-2011, 10:43 PM
Not yet. And no, you can't have my digits. :harumph:

I do agree that this should be the LAST place anyone should seek help. However, people need to understand that when someone is hurting they will turn to anyone that will listen.

exactly, and just for the point of shock value some asshats will say something shocking to be "edgy" and they think its cool. What the fuck is wrong with the world?

I'm sorry, the planet....

mikeyis4dcats.
12-19-2011, 10:45 PM
Wow. Sorry to hear that. What a shame.

I took it hard, some meds and time have eased things, but I still have hard times now and again, and still had to stop and compose myself whule typing out my post.

I feel worst of all for my mother. She has endured the suicides of both of her brothers, and her son. Then my grandmother passed away after a drawn out struggle just 29 days after my brother died. Luckily, my sister survived a botched surgery in April of the same year, after doctors told us she was likely going to die, otherwise 2010 would have been even worse.

Rain Man
12-19-2011, 10:45 PM
Some good thoughts here.

Also, Brianfo can't kill himself because I've never known what the 'fo' part of his name means. If he kills himself I'll never find out and it'll bug me.

wazu
12-19-2011, 10:46 PM
Some good thoughts here.

Also, Brianfo can't kill himself because I've never known what the 'fo' part of his name means. If he kills himself I'll never find out and it'll bug me.

I always just figured that it's Brian, fo sho.

cdcox
12-19-2011, 10:51 PM
If you love your wife and kid, don't do this.
If you want to be a better father and husband, don't do this.
This will only make the situation worse for your wife and kids.
You aren't thinking rignt.
Get some help. I will make a difference.
You might have to do some hard work to get better, but I promise that hard work will be a whole lot easier than what you are planning to put your family through.

Check in. Let us know you are okay.

Simply Red
12-19-2011, 10:51 PM
I always just figured that it's Brian, fo sho.

naw, i seriously don't think he posts, he doesn't post covertly, that I know. He just got a life, something we all should do ;)

Rain Man
12-19-2011, 10:52 PM
I always just figured that it's Brian, fo sho.

That's an interesting theory. I either thought it was Brian, Front Office, or maybe Brian, "F*** Off". Not sure what either meant, though.

Simply Red
12-19-2011, 10:53 PM
If you love your wife and kid, don't do this.
If you want to be a better father and husband, don't do this.
This will only make the situation worse for your wife and kids.
You aren't thinking rignt.
Get some help. I will make a difference.
You might have to do some hard work to get better, but I promise that hard work will be a whole lot easier than what you are planning to put your family through.

Check in. Let us know you are okay.

i stay so busy professionally that it REALLY DOES make regular life a ton easier, plus he should just divorce her ;P - the last part was a joke.

notorious
12-19-2011, 10:56 PM
I took it hard, some meds and time have eased things, but I still have hard times now and again, and still had to stop and compose myself whule typing out my post.

I feel worst of all for my mother. She has endured the suicides of both of her brothers, and her son. Then my grandmother passed away after a drawn out struggle just 29 days after my brother died. Luckily, my sister survived a botched surgery in April of the same year, after doctors told us she was likely going to die, otherwise 2010 would have been even worse.

I feel for you. That is horrific.

crazycoffey
12-19-2011, 10:56 PM
To me this is an epic troll thread started by the OP.

There's two ways this goes;

1) you are right, and all the good and bad comments have zero effects on anyone's life, except maybe comedic value. "ha ha, I tricked you into saying nice things about me thinking of killing myself, I'm so cool."

or

2) you are wrong, and all the negative "trying to be shocking, and edgy" comments could actually push someone toward doing something stupid like killing themselves. And the positive comments are pushing them to talking to a professional or talking them out of doing it this time.

If 1 is right, who cares. it's stupid to mess with people's emotions either way, but the best case scenario is a few cheap laughs and the worse case scenario is someone is an ass.

however if 2 is right, then best case scenario is our responses could actually help someone get real help, better than on this board and worst case scenario, someone on the fence about a life altering decision with limited options gets talked into pulling that trigger, or swallowing that pill.

whosyou
12-19-2011, 10:58 PM
What a Kardashian

Tribal Warfare
12-19-2011, 11:10 PM
There's two ways this goes;

1) you are right, and all the good and bad comments have zero effects on anyone's life, except maybe comedic value. "ha ha, I tricked you into saying nice things about me thinking of killing myself, I'm so cool."

or

2) you are wrong, and all the negative "trying to be shocking, and edgy" comments could actually push someone toward doing something stupid like killing themselves. And the positive comments are pushing them to talking to a professional or talking them out of doing it this time.

If 1 is right, who cares. it's stupid to mess with people's emotions either way, but the best case scenario is a few cheap laughs and the worse case scenario is someone is an ass.

however if 2 is right, then best case scenario is our responses could actually help someone get real help, better than on this board and worst case scenario, someone on the fence about a life altering decision with limited options gets talked into pulling that trigger, or swallowing that pill.

The reason why I say this is because a person close to committed suicide, without warning and the only thing that truly revealed their feelings was the note they left. If someone wants to commit suicide they're not going to be talked out of it.

Brock
12-19-2011, 11:11 PM
The reason why I say this is because a person close to committed suicide, without warning and the only thing that truly revealed their feelings was the note they left. If someone wants to commit suicide they're not going to be talked out of it.

Thanks for the information, Doctor.

whosyou
12-19-2011, 11:14 PM
As a society, we should banish anyone who commits suicide. No funeral, no remembrances, nothing. feed them to pigs

Brock
12-19-2011, 11:15 PM
As a society, we should banish anyone who commits suicide. No funeral, no remembrances, nothing. feed them to pigs

As a society, stupid people like you should be euthanized and burned for electricity.

crazycoffey
12-19-2011, 11:15 PM
The reason why I say this is because a person close to committed suicide, without warning and the only thing that truly revealed their feelings was the note they left. If someone wants to commit suicide they're not going to be talked out of it.


This is untrue

Tribal Warfare
12-19-2011, 11:15 PM
As a society, we should banish anyone who commits suicide. No funeral, no remembrances, nothing. feed them to pigs

This person I'm speaking of was terminal with cancer.

Superturtle
12-19-2011, 11:16 PM
In all seriousness, people who have legitly decided to commit suicide are usually happy about the choice as they feel a weight is being lifted off of their shoulders. Grim as that may be, brianfo seems to still be in that contemplation state, so maybe a good chat with a loved one or medical professional will help you get back on track.

Tribal Warfare
12-19-2011, 11:16 PM
This is untrue

again, it's from my experience and its the hard truth.

doomy3
12-19-2011, 11:17 PM
again, it's from my experience and its the hard truth.

So, because this is your experience with one person, this makes it universally true? That is sound thinking.

Brock
12-19-2011, 11:18 PM
again, it's from my experience and its the hard truth.

How many people do you personally know who you tried to talk out of suicide? Maybe you're just bad at it.

Tribal Warfare
12-19-2011, 11:19 PM
So, because this is your experience with one person, this makes it universally true? That is sound thinking.

Yeah, if you had an experience like it do tell because that was mine. I'm not bullshitting here either

crazycoffey
12-19-2011, 11:20 PM
again, it's from my experience and its the hard truth.

your experience would be biased to your experiences. It there for is not a hard truth let alone the hard truth. Go study the subject, there are people that have been talked out of suicide. Many people

doomy3
12-19-2011, 11:20 PM
Yeah, if you had an experience like it do tell because that was mine.

No, I don't have personal experience talking someone out of suicide. But if I did, I wouldn't make some broad statement saying that everyone can be talked out of it either.

Setsuna
12-19-2011, 11:21 PM
I have once, when I broke up with my first girlfriend. First love. She broke up with me. I got over her like 6 months after it ended. Rough. But hey man, turn to God. Find a church. Pray about this. I'm serious. There is nothing better than having a strong network of people that will help you anyway they can. Tell your wife about this, she'll support you.

4th and Long
12-19-2011, 11:23 PM
•Over 36,000 people in the United States die by suicide every year.
•In 2008 (latest available data), there were 36,035 reported suicide deaths.
•Suicide is the fourth leading cause of death for adults between the ages of 18 and 65 years in the United States (29,668 suicides).
•Currently, suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the United States.
•A person dies by suicide about every 15 minutes in the United States.
•Every day, approximately 99 Americans take their own life.
•Ninety percent of all people who die by suicide have a diagnosable psychiatric disorder at the time of their death.
•There are four male suicides for every female suicide, but three times as many females as males attempt suicide.
•There are an estimated 8-25 attempted suicides for every suicide death.

Oregon chief
12-19-2011, 11:23 PM
Honestly you should talk to someone other than a bunch of chiefs fans on a message board.

The only thing I ask is that if you choose to go, make sure you go alone. There's nothing much worse then the murder suicides or doing something that puts others at risk.

Tribal Warfare
12-19-2011, 11:25 PM
No, I don't have personal experience talking someone out of suicide. But if I did, I wouldn't make some broad statement saying that everyone can be talked out of it either.

so null and void IMO so just be quiet. If you had one sure I might listen , if not don't even try to tell me what is what on the subject.

Lumpy
12-19-2011, 11:25 PM
As a society, we should banish anyone who commits suicide. No funeral, no remembrances, nothing. feed them to pigs

I really wish you would shut the fuck up.

doomy3
12-19-2011, 11:26 PM
so null and void IMO so just be quiet. If you had one sure I might listen , if not don't even try to tell me what is what on the subject.

You're kind of dumb.

Brock
12-19-2011, 11:27 PM
so null and void IMO so just be quiet. If you had one sure I might listen , if not don't even try to tell me what is what on the subject.

Sure, let's allow your singular experience trump scientific evidence to the contrary. Wait, what?

Tribal Warfare
12-19-2011, 11:27 PM
You're kind of dumb.

Nice rebuttal!!!!!!!

crazycoffey
12-19-2011, 11:29 PM
Yeah, if you had an experience like it do tell because that was mine. I'm not bullshitting here either

Don't even get me started, I've had a few friends do it, and few other talk about it, I've also researched the subject thinking of giving my time to work in phone centers to try and help. As a cop, I've also seen several completed successful suicides, and got people to the hospital that were dead or almost dead and brought back by paramedics. I've personally aided in CPR waiting for the ambulance on more than one occasion. I went on with more experiences but decided this post was getting too long so I'll end it now.

doomy3
12-19-2011, 11:30 PM
Nice rebuttal!!!!!!!

At least I posted something factual, unlike your contributions in this thread.

crazycoffey
12-19-2011, 11:34 PM
so null and void IMO so just be quiet. If you had one sure I might listen , if not don't even try to tell me what is what on the subject.

by the way, sorry to hear about your personal loss on the subject, no joke all other comments aside.

KC Tattoo
12-19-2011, 11:35 PM
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Take advice from Queen dude.

4th and Long
12-19-2011, 11:36 PM
I really wish you would shut the **** up.

That about covers it.

jlscorpio
12-19-2011, 11:53 PM
about 7 years ago, one of my very best friends I ever had took his own life. DON'T FUCKING DO IT. Your kids will never fucking EVER recover from it. They will be completely fucked up forever, and will be rendered completely incapable of sustaining relationships as adults. If you have any feelings for your wife at all, this is the complete ruination of her life from that moment forward. Your family and friends will forever have a gaping hole in the souls. BAD fucking idea, bro. Man the fuck up and deal with life. That's what REAL MOTHERFUCKERS DO.

4th and Long
12-19-2011, 11:56 PM
This isn't going to help turn your rep green.

Currently, that seems to be an inaccurate statement.

Mr. Plow
12-19-2011, 11:56 PM
Real or fake, I hate these threads.

RustShack
12-19-2011, 11:58 PM
This isn't going to help turn your rep green.

Wrong.

Lumpy
12-20-2011, 12:08 AM
Currently, that seems to be an inaccurate statement.

Maybe somebody needed a break from neg-repping.

4th and Long
12-20-2011, 12:10 AM
Maybe somebody needed a break from neg-repping.

Perhaps. Then again, he may have splattered his brain all over a wall by now. I have no way to know.

Fat Elvis
12-20-2011, 12:16 AM
Can any of the mods trace his IP?

FAX
12-20-2011, 12:19 AM
The last time this happened, I became very concerned. Dialed numbers and everything to try and track the guy down and stuff. Honestly worried.

Then it turned out to be a hoax.

I swear, I hate these deals.

Does a mod have emergency contact information? Anything?

FAX

Phobia
12-20-2011, 12:23 AM
I checked earlier. He's posting from a mobile phone. There is no contact information or any other clues in his profile.

FAX
12-20-2011, 12:30 AM
I checked earlier. He's posting from a mobile phone. There is no contact information or any other clues in his profile.

Do we have a name?

By the way, Mr. Phobia, I hate to bother a marvelously talented mod like yourself with something so trivial, but the site is loading really slow and I just clicked on a thread deal and received a message that said the link was bad.

EDIT: Sorry ... didn't see that part.

FAX

FAX
12-20-2011, 12:34 AM
It appears he's posted before about his battle with alcoholism. Also began a thread about wishing to put some money aside for his children.

Son of a bitch, man. I wish people wouldn't do this.

FAX

Lumpy
12-20-2011, 12:37 AM
Can the mods access the email address associated w/ his account? If so, send it to me via pm.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 12:38 AM
Can the mods access the email address associated w/ his account? If so, send it to me via pm.

He registered in 2002. The email associated with the account is long dead.

Lumpy
12-20-2011, 12:40 AM
He registered in 2002. The email associated with the account is long dead.

That shouldn't matter.

KC Tattoo
12-20-2011, 12:49 AM
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SuperChief
12-20-2011, 12:55 AM
Some of you are some motherfuckers. Think about doing this act yourself and what sort of state of mind you would have to be in to seriously contemplate it. It's terrible.

Brian - don't do it man. Talk to someone. Anyone. Reach out to a professional in your area who can help you cope.

FAX
12-20-2011, 12:58 AM
I'm highly sensitized to this crap. I've written about it on here before, but one of my best friends in life (best man at my wedding, I was best man at his) killed himself last year. He was a strong-willed guy and smart. Absolutely the last person I would have ever imagined would shoot himself in the heart with a .20 gauge.

I'm still not over it. Probably never will be.

I hate this stuff bad.

FAX

KcMizzou
12-20-2011, 01:07 AM
People get depressed this time of year. The holidays make you introspective, and sometimes you don't like what you see when you look inside.

Just know that nothing you've done wrong has hurt the people you love as much as that (as you said) cowardly act.

Take it as an opportunity to have an awakening. Change what you don't like about yourself... be a better man, husband and father.

SuperChief
12-20-2011, 01:08 AM
I'm highly sensitized to this crap. I've written about it on here before, but one of my best friends in life (best man at my wedding, I was best man at his) killed himself last year. He was a strong-willed guy and smart. Absolutely the last person I would have ever imagined would shoot himself in the heart with a .20 gauge.

I'm still not over it. Probably never will be.

I hate this stuff bad.

FAX

It's never good. Ever. I feel for you, bro.

KC Tattoo
12-20-2011, 01:25 AM
I'm highly sensitized to this crap. I've written about it on here before, but one of my best friends in life (best man at my wedding, I was best man at his) killed himself last year. He was a strong-willed guy and smart. Absolutely the last person I would have ever imagined would shoot himself in the heart with a .20 gauge.

I'm still not over it. Probably never will be.

I hate this stuff bad.

FAX

First don't blame yourself. Second don't blame your friend even though I know it's hard.

I don't want to be judged for this but I have attempted suicide & not just contimplate it. More than once for that matter. I didn't want to die per say, I just didn't want to live. There is pain that cannot be described in this mental hell when the thought is the only way out of it.

I could have really damaged my kids bad and I know this now but sometimes things just don't make since when all you feel is pain and nightmares that don't go away could be something bad memory but sometimes shit just gets real in life and sometimes reallity isn't what it is. That may not make since but you can't understand the pain one is in that is even contiplating suicide. It's easy to judge or say things becouse we live in a macho society. What is easy for one person is not easy for another. I've heard God doesn't give us more than we can handle. I call bull shit on that. I couldn't handle what I went through and it got the best of me and again when I thought I was ok 10 years later it got the best of me again only from a flash back. Things like that just don't go away. I have to be on guard all the time to keep my stinking thinking get in my head. It's fucking crazy & I have worked hard in my life to get where I am now. I have something to live for but I know I have to do what it takes by doing my best. Sometimes best isn't good enough and have to dig deep to get myself back on track.

Your friend probly didn't know what to do to get rid of what ever pain or remorse he was carrying, it was a burden too much for him to handle and that sucks now for you lost a friend. Try not to hold that inside and just be thankful he was your friend. He is at piece now.

I don't condone suicide. I believe it's wrong in the worse way. It's just damn hard sometimes, and people act like they are better than God when they act like we are cowards for trying it. What ever. I live my life one day at a time and do my damnest each day. I can't change my past just do what I can today to make a better tommorrow.

I didn't want to share this but if there is anybody out there I can help then that's what I can do or for better understanding of what hell is like.

NJChiefsFan
12-20-2011, 01:36 AM
I'm highly sensitized to this crap. I've written about it on here before, but one of my best friends in life (best man at my wedding, I was best man at his) killed himself last year. He was a strong-willed guy and smart. Absolutely the last person I would have ever imagined would shoot himself in the heart with a .20 gauge.

I'm still not over it. Probably never will be.

I hate this stuff bad.

FAX

A friend of my set himself on fire 7 years ago. It was beyond shocking, and I am not even refering to the way he did it. He was the most happy-go-lucky guy you would ever meet.

I am all for joking about everything, but to me this is something that shouldn't be jocked about unless we know this guy is kiding.

I had a streak of depression for a year and it sucked really bad. I was still pretty young, 14. That was a long time ago, well 12 yrs, and probably is about 0.004% at the level that you need to be suicidal, so I can only imagine how much it must hurt to be at that point. I didn't want to eat and even when I did stuff I just felt like it was fleeting and meaningless. I just can't imagine what it feels like to be 10 levels above that.

I got through it and can't imagine ever being back there again, but I certainly feel for those that are there.

FAX
12-20-2011, 01:45 AM
Severe depression is like an emotional cancer. It grows and grows in secret. Slowly over time. In the beginning, you don't even realize that it's there. Until one day it takes over your life.

To me, you don't really know how bad it is until it affects your life which is why I don't joke about it or call someone who is struggling to rub dirt on it. There is little I wouldn't do for someone who was succumbing to their helplessness and despair. But that's why these threads piss me off so much. I mean, you don't know if the person is playing a stupid game or if they're serious (from a moral perspective, you have to assume they are), yet you have no way to contact them or help in any way.

All it does is remind you just how screwed up the world can be sometimes.

FAX

NJChiefsFan
12-20-2011, 01:53 AM
Severe depression is like an emotional cancer. It grows and grows in secret. Slowly over time. In the beginning, you don't even realize that it's there. Until one day it takes over your life.

To me, you don't really know how bad it is until it affects your life which is why I don't joke about it or call someone who is struggling to rub dirt on it. There is little I wouldn't do for someone who was succumbing to their helplessness and despair. But that's why these threads piss me off so much. I mean, you don't know if the person is playing a stupid game or if they're serious (from a moral perspective, you have to assume they are), yet you have no way to contact them or help in any way.

All it does is remind you just how screwed up the world can be sometimes.

FAX

Yep. I wouldn't wish true depression on my enemies.

KC Tattoo
12-20-2011, 01:55 AM
I tell you Mr. FAX, if it's good for the Soul to talk about it and let the shit get out then if any thing that's what good these threads can bring.

It may save another persons life just reading OP.


Maybe you can get a release that your looking for. It never hurts to talk things out for therapuetic treatment.

I can say nothing is better than talking to others who have the same experiences in life. Professional help is ideal but others who have dealt with this kind of thing are more to understand and can feel the same way.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 01:58 AM
So, I think I found a phone number on the guy... WTH do you do about it at 2:00 AM?

Lumpy
12-20-2011, 02:00 AM
So, I think I found a phone number on the guy... WTH do you do about it at 2:00 AM?

Beat you to it... w/ a full name, spouse name, address, phone. I sent Fax a pm to see if he wanted to call him tomorrow. Because, yeah, it would be crazy to call his house at 2:00 AM.

Edit: I guess technically "tomorrow" is today. FFS, I need some sleep.

KC Tattoo
12-20-2011, 02:03 AM
I know I never reached out for help when I attempted it. I don't think most people reach out for help so if he is reaching out then that is a good thing. Just have to hope and pray he doesn't do anything stupid until he logs back on.

Buck
12-20-2011, 02:03 AM
So, I think I found a phone number on the guy... WTH do you do about it at 2:00 AM?

Beat you to it... w/ a full name, spouse name, address, phone. I sent Fax a pm to see if he wanted to call him tomorrow. Because, yeah, it would be crazy to call his house at 2:00 AM.

The minor inconvenience of a phone call at 2 am compared to saving someone's life seems like a no-brainer to me.

Lumpy
12-20-2011, 02:06 AM
The minor inconvenience of a phone call at 2 am compared to saving someone's life seems like a no-brainer to me.

True, but consider the fact that we don't know if he's truly thinking about doing something or not. What if his wife answers? What if he isn't sharing his thoughts of suicide/depression w/ her? How is he to explain an odd 2:00 in the morning phone call?

KC Tattoo
12-20-2011, 02:13 AM
True, but consider the fact that we don't know if he's truly thinking about doing something or not. What if his wife answers? What if he isn't sharing his thoughts of suicide/depression w/ her? How is he to explain an odd 2:00 in the morning phone call?

If she answers oops wrong number/quickly hang up.

If he answers hey man how are you doing?

Lumpy
12-20-2011, 02:16 AM
Well, somebody needs to do it, (and Fax isn't get back w/ me-probably logged off), so who wants to do it? I'm also waiting for Phobia to respond w/ the number he found, so we can make damn sure we're calling the right guy.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 02:18 AM
The minor inconvenience of a phone call at 2 am compared to saving someone's life seems like a no-brainer to me.

I know but I decided to let somebody who is trained handle it. He'll be getting a knock at the door from the Sheriff Dept in a few minutes. I pray to God everybody is okay.

Lumpy
12-20-2011, 02:20 AM
I know but I decided to let somebody who is trained handle it. He'll be getting a knock at the door from the Sheriff Dept in a few minutes. I pray to God everybody is okay.

Damn. :eek: Ok, well, that pretty much solves the issue.

Buck
12-20-2011, 02:21 AM
I know but I decided to let somebody who is trained handle it. He'll be getting a knock at the door from the Sheriff Dept in a few minutes. I pray to God everybody is okay.

Well that was the best option. You did the right thing.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 02:23 AM
Well that was the best option. You did the right thing.

I feel like it was. I'm sure he'll not be too happy about it but we've had stranger things happen on this site before and I'm always going to err on the side of caution.

Lumpy
12-20-2011, 02:24 AM
I feel like it was. I'm sure he'll not be too happy about it but we've had stranger things happen on this site before and I'm always going to err on the side of caution.

Did the number you came up w/ match mine?

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 02:34 AM
I feel like it was. I'm sure he'll not be too happy about it but we've had stranger things happen on this site before and I'm always going to err on the side of caution.


You never know. He could have his house filled with drugs and you could be sending him to prison for years after the Sheriff finds them. Where he would then hang himself with a shoelace.

I think in buddhist terms you would then be responsible for his death. You buddhist?

Otter
12-20-2011, 02:37 AM
You never know. He could have his house filled with drugs and you could be sending him to prison for years after the Sheriff finds them. Where he would then hang himself with a shoelace.

I think in buddhist terms you would then be responsible for his death. You buddhist?

If you have a house full of drugs I'd air on the side of caution to drawing attention to yourself. His fault.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 02:38 AM
Did the number you came up w/ match mine?

Don't know. I already closed that window since I passed it on to the authorities. They made contact but wouldn't give me any information.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 02:40 AM
You never know. He could have his house filled with drugs and you could be sending him to prison for years after the Sheriff finds them. Where he would then hang himself with a shoelace.

I think in buddhist terms you would then be responsible for his death. You buddhist?

I'm budding but not buddhist. I think I did the right thing. I don't know what more I could be expected to do under the circumstances.

Lumpy
12-20-2011, 02:42 AM
Don't know. I already closed that window since I passed it on to the authorities. They made contact but wouldn't give me any information.

WTF? They couldn't say, "yeah, the guy is ok and he's pissed at you fools for tracking him down"... nothing?

Otter
12-20-2011, 02:44 AM
I'm budding but not buddhist. I think I did the right thing. I don't know what more I could be expected to do under the circumstances.

For what it's worth, and I know I carry a lot of weight around here, I'm the Chiefsplanet gladiator champion and all...you did what you could and if it pans out shitty for the guy it's his fault. He could have posted anytime with something as simple as ' sorry guys, rough day, ignore this please'.

I hate when people do this and I've dealt with this too. No need for BS.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 02:46 AM
If you have a house full of drugs I'd air on the side of caution to drawing attention to yourself. His fault.

People need a venue to vent from time to time. Don't know why he choose this place. Maybe because he thought he could do it anonymously without burdening his wife and family. Well there goes that, I guess.

I really don't know how to feel about it to be honest. I can see good and bad. like the old saying goes. The road to hell is paved with good intentions

KC Tattoo
12-20-2011, 02:48 AM
I'm budding but not buddhist. I think I did the right thing. I don't know what more I could be expected to do under the circumstances.

You did absolutely the right thing in this circumstance.

I applaude you in your efforts to help someone tonight.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 02:49 AM
I'm budding but not buddhist. I think I did the right thing. I don't know what more I could be expected to do under the circumstances.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think you did anything bad. Just may have added a few extra complications, or started the process of him addressing his issues is all I'm saying. It can go either way.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 02:53 AM
And I have called the law on someone attempting suicide by taking 20 valiums. They proceeded then to take on 5 officers who responded while kicking a couple of them in the chest. Which they then were criminally charged for.

Hate to say it again. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Otter
12-20-2011, 02:55 AM
People need a venue to vent from time to time. Don't know why he choose this place. Maybe because he thought he could do it anonymously without burdening his wife and family. Well there goes that, I guess.

I really don't know how to feel about it to be honest. I can see good and bad. like the old saying goes. The road to hell is paved with good intentions

Hit a bag, wake up and run until your lungs are ready to explode. This is a cry for attention and if the guy is dead I'll eat me words but I've seen this before.

I'm done with it.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 02:58 AM
Hit a bag, wake up and run until your lungs are ready to explode. This is a cry for attention and if the guy is dead I'll eat me words but I've seen this before.

I'm done with it.

Cry for attention or just needing a venue to vent. I think a case could be made either way.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 03:04 AM
We've had people vent a lot. Don't think they post "I'm considering offing myself and I know it's the right thing to do..." and then disappear. That's what sealed it for me. If you wanna stick around and talk it out, we're all about that. But don't post "I'm gonna kill myself" and then nothing.

I think there are a lot of genuinely decent people out on this site who care about one another. I hope Brian takes it as "we care" rather than, "why the hell did you guys track me down?"

FAX
12-20-2011, 03:04 AM
I know but I decided to let somebody who is trained handle it. He'll be getting a knock at the door from the Sheriff Dept in a few minutes. I pray to God everybody is okay.

... trying to catch a wink or two there (The beautiful and witty Mrs. FAX says we have to go shopping tomorrow. She mentioned something about Christmas packages.)

Anyhow, I missed all this.

So you called the authorities? Excellent. Good job, Mr. Phobia. Well done and rightly so.

Hopefully, either they will intercede and stop something before it happens, or this will sponsor some professional help, or get his wife involved, or convince him to stop posting wolf cries on the board, if that's the case. Either way, it's a win.

My compliments and congratulations to you, Mr. Phobia.

I'll be gone most of the day tomorrow, but if I need to call this guy, shoot me his number and I'll ring him up tomorrow when I return.

FAX

FAX
12-20-2011, 03:06 AM
We've had people vent a lot. Don't think they post "I'm considering offing myself and I know it's the right thing to do..." and then disappear. That's what sealed it for me. If you wanna stick around and talk it out, we're all about that. But don't post "I'm gonna kill myself" and then nothing.

I think there are a lot of genuinely decent people out on this site who care about one another. I hope Brian takes it as "we care" rather than, "why the hell did you guys track me down?"

Don't worry about how he "takes it". That's on him in the first place.

Besides, this happened once before ... and not all that long ago, as I recall.

It was a spoof, though ... if I remember correctly. And after the OP got to some people ... including yours truly. Not a cool thing to do.

FAX

Phobia
12-20-2011, 03:09 AM
I was kinda surprised how easy it was to find him off a 10 year old email address in which the domain name was dead though. Usually I have to dig pretty hard.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 03:09 AM
We've had people vent a lot. Don't think they post "I'm considering offing myself and I know it's the right thing to do..." and then disappear. That's what sealed it for me. If you wanna stick around and talk it out, we're all about that. But don't post "I'm gonna kill myself" and then nothing.

I think there are a lot of genuinely decent people out on this site who care about one another. I hope Brian takes it as "we care" rather than, "why the hell did you guys track me down?"

I didn't see specifically where he said he was considering it. I thought I read that he thought about it often. We all have had thoughts, daily thoughts about things that we would never consider doing.

FAX
12-20-2011, 03:10 AM
I was kinda surprised how easy it was to find him off a 10 year old email address in which the domain name was dead though. Usually I have to dig pretty hard.

You did well, grasshopper.

FAX

Phobia
12-20-2011, 03:13 AM
I didn't see specifically where he said he was considering it. I thought I read that he thought about it often. We all have had thoughts, daily thoughts about things that we would never consider doing.

I'm not a psychiatrist but the phrasing and structure were a lot more ominous for me than they were for you. Combine that with his immediate departure and I was genuinely worried.

FAX
12-20-2011, 03:14 AM
I didn't see specifically where he said he was considering it. I thought I read that he thought about it often. We all have had thoughts, daily thoughts about things that we would never consider doing.

That's the problem, though. He talks about it, then bails on the board.

You don't really know what he's thinking or doing. All you know is that he's in a dark place and thinking about it.

My concern was heightened when I looked up some old threads of his and found the one where he talks about his long-term battle with alcoholism. As I'm sure you are aware, there's a link between alcohol and drug abuse and suicide.

Regardless, the right thing was done under the circumstances and even if he was just ruminating, this might lead him to start dealing with some of his problem(s) ... which he obviously has.

FAX

Lumpy
12-20-2011, 03:15 AM
I was kinda surprised how easy it was to find him off a 10 year old email address in which the domain name was dead though. Usually I have to dig pretty hard.

You're right, it's really not that difficult. ;) Yet, you didn't confirm the phone number I sent to you was the same one you found. I had a 90% match on current info based on that email. But if your number matched mine, that would pretty much close the 10% gap.

Either way, well done Phobia! :D

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 03:16 AM
I just don't know about giving kudos and claiming a personal victory for someone calling if the person gets the help they need. And then saying on the other other side of the mouth if any thing bad comes from it, it is all his fault.

FAX
12-20-2011, 03:17 AM
I just don't know about giving kudos and claiming a personal victory for someone calling if the person gets the help they need. And then saying on the other other side of the mouth if any thing bad comes from it, it is all his fault.

Who said that?

FAX

NJChiefsFan
12-20-2011, 03:17 AM
I'm not a psychiatrist but the phrasing and structure were a lot more ominous for me than they were for you. Combine that with his immediate departure and I was genuinely worried.

I think you did the right thing. Its a whole lot easier to live with thinking "maybe I did too much" than "maybe I didn't do enough."

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 03:17 AM
I'm not a psychiatrist but the phrasing and structure were a lot more ominous for me than they were for you. Combine that with his immediate departure and I was genuinely worried.

Maybe that was all he needed to vent. Maybe he really is considering it. Too little information to make a determination for me.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 03:21 AM
That's the problem, though. He talks about it, then bails on the board.

You don't really know what he's thinking or doing. All you know is that he's in a dark place and thinking about it.

My concern was heightened when I looked up some old threads of his and found the one where he talks about his long-term battle with alcoholism. As I'm sure you are aware, there's a link between alcohol and drug abuse and suicide.

Regardless, the right thing was done under the circumstances and even if he was just ruminating, this might lead him to start dealing with some of his problem(s) ... which he obviously has.

FAX

I hope he gets the help he wants and is able to overcome his issues. But it will be solely up to him to accomplish that. Not a phone call.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 03:24 AM
I just don't know about giving kudos and claiming a personal victory for someone calling if the person gets the help they need. And then saying on the other other side of the mouth if any thing bad comes from it, it is all his fault.

I don't care about kudos over this thing. I think when you're faced with tough decisions, you just make the safe choice. If I had waited until morning to call and something awful happened over night I wouldn't want to live with that.

NJChiefsFan
12-20-2011, 03:25 AM
I hope he gets the help he wants and is able to overcome his issues. But it will be solely up to him to accomplish that. Not a phone call.

Was anybody really making the phone call sound that epic? We were just telling him we thought it was the right thing to do when there were a couple of posts wondering if somebody should call or not.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 03:27 AM
Who said that?

FAX

If you have a house full of drugs I'd air on the side of caution to drawing attention to yourself. His fault.

I'm just speaking in general terms since not much is factually known.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 03:29 AM
I don't care about kudos over this thing. I think when you're faced with tough decisions, you just make the safe choice. If I had waited until morning to call and something awful happened over night I wouldn't want to live with that.

Didn't say you cared about getting kudos. I said I don't know about giving kudos.

Phobia
12-20-2011, 03:31 AM
Maybe that was all he needed to vent. Maybe he really is considering it. Too little information to make a determination for me.

If you say, "I think about killing myself all the time" and "It's the right thing to do" it went a little beyond venting for me. I'm going to reach out personally.

Had an acquaintance post on facebook a few nights ago that his life was over because his baby momma took his kid away from him. He said he was gonna go out with a bang and "look for me on the news". I called his ass up at 1:00 AM. Told him that if he was serious then I would help him find some professional help but if he was just venting that he needed to delete that crap from facebook because all it proved was that the judge made the right decision.

These situations are tough but I'm not going to spectate if somebody needs help. That's definitely not the right thing.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 03:33 AM
Was anybody really making the phone call sound that epic? We were just telling him we thought it was the right thing to do when there were a couple of posts wondering if somebody should call or not.

:facepalm:

Telling someone that was the right thing to do is giving kudos. There is the possibility the outcome of the phone call may not end up as great as one believes. Then again he may laugh at it and say "you dolt's, why to you have to bring the law to my house?"

Then again he may say thank you for concern.

We may never know

NJChiefsFan
12-20-2011, 03:35 AM
:facepalm:

Telling someone that was the right thing to do is giving kudos. There is the possibility the outcome of the phone call may not end up as great as one believes. Then again he may laugh at it and say "you dolt's, why to you have to bring the law to my house?"

Then again he may say thank you for concern.

We may never know

There is a difference between saying hey you are the man for doing that and saying you did the right thing WHEN some posts question whether you should call or not at such a late hour.

Whatever I guess. I didn't think it was so much that you needed to make two references to it and I certainly don't think this is worth arguing about either.

J Diddy
12-20-2011, 03:38 AM
:facepalm:

Telling someone that was the right thing to do is giving kudos. There is the possibility the outcome of the phone call may not end up as great as one believes. Then again he may laugh at it and say "you dolt's, why to you have to bring the law to my house?"

Then again he may say thank you for concern.

We may never know

Better safe than sorry.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 03:39 AM
If you say, "I think about killing myself all the time" and "It's the right thing to do" it went a little beyond venting for me. I'm going to reach out personally.

Had an acquaintance post on facebook a few nights ago that his life was over because his baby momma took his kid away from him. He said he was gonna go out with a bang and "look for me on the news". I called his ass up at 1:00 AM. Told him that if he was serious then I would help him find some professional help but if he was just venting that he needed to delete that crap from facebook because all it proved was that the judge made the right decision.

These situations are tough but I'm not going to spectate if somebody needs help. That's definitely not the right thing.

You made your choice. I don't have a real problem with it. There is the possibility that the outcome wasn't rose petals and honey biscuits though.

lostcause
12-20-2011, 03:39 AM
Suicide is neither selfish or cowardly, if we truly have one control over ourselves it is choosing to live over dying.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 03:42 AM
There is a difference between saying hey you are the man for doing that and saying you did the right thing WHEN some posts question whether you should call or not at such a late hour.

Whatever I guess. I didn't think it was so much that you needed to make two references to it and I certainly don't think this is worth arguing about either.

I'm not arguing. I'm simply discussing that things aren't always what we assume them to be. Nobody knows this guys intentions. It very well may have opened a whole new set of problems for him. But as previously stated by another poster. That would be all his fault.

RubberSponge
12-20-2011, 03:43 AM
Better safe than sorry.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

NJChiefsFan
12-20-2011, 03:43 AM
I'm not arguing. I'm simply discussing that things aren't always what we assume them to be. Nobody knows this guys intentions. It very well may have opened a whole new set of problems for him. But as previously stated by another poster. That would be all his fault.

I agree it certainly could have. I also agree with you and that poster that it would be his fault.

ChiefsNow
12-20-2011, 03:43 AM
I know I never reached out for help when I attempted it. I don't think most people reach out for help so if he is reaching out then that is a good thing. Just have to hope and pray he doesn't do anything stupid until he logs back on.


The thing is, this IS a reach for help. I called the hotline to see what i could do to help. They had no system for message boards.

Otter
12-20-2011, 03:48 AM
Suicide is neither selfish or cowardly, if we truly have one control over ourselves it is choosing to live over dying.

Agreed. But if you want to off yourself (I know how awful this sounds) don't drag everyone you can down with you.

My buddy Mike blew his head off to let his Mom find him and that poor woman is never, ever going to be the same again after seeing someone she gave birth to with the back of his head missing.

It's the whole making other people suffer that care about you that makes me mad. I know how callous that sounds but at least man up.

Guess I wasn't done with the thread. I'll try to be now.

ChiefsNow
12-20-2011, 03:57 AM
I know but I decided to let somebody who is trained handle it. He'll be getting a knock at the door from the Sheriff Dept in a few minutes. I pray to God everybody is okay.

Sorry I didn't read all the posts. Thanks for doing this Phobia.o:-)

johnny961
12-20-2011, 03:59 AM
Damn. Hope this guy is alright.

lostcause
12-20-2011, 04:05 AM
Damn. Hope this guy is alright.

Why? Maybe he is a pedophiliac who molests his children, he admits he is going to hell and has not been a good father. Who are we to judge?

J Diddy
12-20-2011, 04:05 AM
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.


A quote I dearly believe:

all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

J Diddy
12-20-2011, 04:07 AM
Why? Maybe he is a pedophiliac who molests his children, he admits he is going to hell and has not been a good father. Who are we to judge?


Better yet, who are we to jump to those sort of conclusions?

lostcause
12-20-2011, 04:10 AM
i didn't jump to any conclusions, i was speculating. but maybe this guy knows what he is talking about and that his wife and kids are better off without him.

J Diddy
12-20-2011, 04:16 AM
i didn't jump to any conclusions, i was speculating. but maybe this guy knows what he is talking about and that his wife and kids are better off without him.

I would think it would be safe to assume that anyone pouring out what he poured out on an anonymous message board is not in the right state of mind. Suicide is one of those things that you can't go back later and fix. Hopefully, he gets some counseling and gets his head straight.

johnny961
12-20-2011, 04:23 AM
Why? Maybe he is a pedophiliac who molests his children, he admits he is going to hell and has not been a good father. Who are we to judge?

Who knows. I don't even know this guy IRL. From the sound of his post though I got the impression that this guy was just depressed as **** about life in general. Over exactly what who knows.

johnny961
12-20-2011, 04:30 AM
i didn't jump to any conclusions, i was speculating. but maybe this guy knows what he is talking about and that his wife and kids are better off without him.

Not referring to this instance at all, but most of the lowlifes I have crossed paths with in the past would never admit to a fault. Anyone who has the balls to honestly admit to their shortcomings is more likely than not a decent person IMO.

Cave Johnson
12-20-2011, 05:10 AM
Edit: good work, Phil. This is no bodybuilders forum.

redsurfer11
12-20-2011, 05:16 AM
Have you ever contemplated suicide? I have, I think about it everyday. I think my kids and wife would be better off without me. My wife is an absolute angel. She did not deserve to be stuck with me. I know that it's the right thing to do. But it's cowardly. I know for a fact that I am going to hell. I love my kids and wife so much, but I have not been a good father.


ZuZu's petals.

Rausch
12-20-2011, 05:29 AM
No.

spanky 52
12-20-2011, 05:33 AM
Brianfo, if you read this post, please believe me when I tell you suicide is not the answer for anything. It's the most selfish act a human being can commit. It's never the right thing to do. Don't know what you're going through but there are solutions to most problems.

Your wife and children would never forgive you if you did this. Call a friend, minister/pastor/priest, or a suicide hotline. You need to talk to someone who will listen and give you sound advice. Your not thinking rationally at this time, trust me.

Heck, who's to say we're not in hell right now. And the fact you profess your love for your wife and kids means your not the worst husband/father in the world. I'd give anything to go back 30 to 35 years and have a redo at being a better father and husband. We make mistakes, we're human. Please call someone for help, there are people who will listen and give good counsel. I know, I've been there. Love and peace, Jim in Salina.

blaise
12-20-2011, 06:12 AM
I just want to thank RubberSponge for letting us know that calling law enforcement to a suicidal guy's house at 2:00AM might not make everything sunshine and roses.
I think everyone probably thought it would.

crazycoffey
12-20-2011, 06:37 AM
You never know. He could have his house filled with drugs and you could be sending him to prison for years after the Sheriff finds them. Where he would then hang himself with a shoelace.

I think in buddhist terms you would then be responsible for his death. You buddhist?

They don't let inmates keep shoe laces