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-King-
01-09-2012, 12:29 PM
We have to add more depth and competition.

petegz28
01-09-2012, 12:29 PM
How?

He literally said that the QB status is yet to be determined.

If you listened to everything else said he was puffing Pioli's peter on Cassel

Fritz88
01-09-2012, 12:29 PM
"We are still working on this team".

"Process"

"Too early to expect us winning big"

Mr. Laz
01-09-2012, 12:29 PM
"Go through process to evaluate QBs"

Hinting strongly at wanting Orton back unless Orton wants to go elsewhere.

"Orton is the reason I am sitting here"What I did get out of it is that Cassel is NOT getting the outright "this is definitely the guy" support he's gotten before...

Cassel WAS the established starting QB ... saying anything else means he's likely on his way out.

DaWolf
01-09-2012, 12:29 PM
That is the exact opposite of what I got. They are laying groudwork to get Orton back.

I didn't get that. I think they'd like to have him back at a team friendly contract, but it sounded like "Hey, Kyle did a good job, but he's a free agent and he's probably not going to want to come back and compete with Cassel for the job."

What I did get out of it is that Cassel is NOT getting the outright "this is definitely the guy" support he's gotten before...

Goldmember
01-09-2012, 12:30 PM
he keeps clearing his throat, is he nervous has hell or what? Annoying fuck

suds79
01-09-2012, 12:30 PM
Did you guys hear Romeo say "It is what it is" when talking about the QBs?

He said "situation" instead of "It". Still, same meaning.

He knows.

-King-
01-09-2012, 12:30 PM
If you listened to everything else said he was puffing Pioli's peter on Cassel

And he fluffed Ortons peter much more than anyone elses.

Fritz88
01-09-2012, 12:30 PM
You will never get anything of value from Pioli in a press conference.

It's a weird condition.

ChiefFripp
01-09-2012, 12:31 PM
Now we just need to franchise Bowe then make a trade to Indy. I'd trade Bowe, Cassel and our first two draft picks for Manning. Then if we could retain Carr, and spend the rest of our draft picks and free agency money on the O-line, we'd be set. See how easy that'd be?

-King-
01-09-2012, 12:31 PM
Exit stage left.

Fritz88
01-09-2012, 12:31 PM
Crennel kissing Hunt's ass big time.

"After you sir"

FringeNC
01-09-2012, 12:32 PM
Not listening to it, but was mention made that Orton is NOT under contract? Given that, Crennel wouldn't even be talking about him unless he expected to re-sign him. Reading between the lines, sounds like Orton is the guy.

-King-
01-09-2012, 12:32 PM
Now we just need to franchise Bowe then make a trade to Indy. I'd trade Bowe, Cassel and our first two draft picks for Manning. Then if we could retain Carr, and spend the rest of our draft picks and free agency money on the O-line, we'd be set. See how easy that'd be?

Do people ever read threads on this forum? :facepalm:

We don't have to shit for Manning. And even if we did, if we traded that much for him, I'd literally kill Pioli.

Fritz88
01-09-2012, 12:32 PM
Hunt does not look completely sold on the situation.

Anyone else read it differently?

I just saw his facial expressions. I didn't hear his comments.

The Bad Guy
01-09-2012, 12:33 PM
Now we just need to franchise Bowe then make a trade to Indy. I'd trade Bowe, Cassel and our first two draft picks for Manning. Then if we could retain Carr, and spend the rest of our draft picks and free agency money on the O-line, we'd be set. See how easy that'd be?

The Chiefs do not need to trade Bowe, they could pay both of them and keep their draft picks.

Giving up picks for Manning and his injury is foolish. Insanely foolish.

ChiefsCountry
01-09-2012, 12:33 PM
Do people ever read threads on this forum? :facepalm:

We don't have to shit for Manning. And even if we did, if we traded that much for him, I'd literally kill Pioli.

If you trade that much you better be fucking getting Andrew Luck.

DaWolf
01-09-2012, 12:33 PM
Did you guys hear Romeo say "It is what it is" when talking about the QBs?

He said "situation" instead of "It". Still, same meaning.

He knows.

Oh yeah. He's not sold on Cassel. He went through the Derek Anderson situation in Cleveland. RAC isn't dumb. But it is what it is, Cassel is still under contract.

The OC hire will be telling. I'm really pulling for Clements from Green Bay. I do NOT want an internal promotion...

Chocolate Hog
01-09-2012, 12:33 PM
Still sounds like Orton doesn't want to be here though.

Douche Baggins
01-09-2012, 12:33 PM
There you go, guys.

Enjoy Romeo. Derek Anderson, Matt Cassel, what's the fucking difference.

Cornstock
01-09-2012, 12:34 PM
Crennel kissing Hunt's ass big time.

"After you sir"

haha ya i did see that. oh well starting on the right foot.


Anyone see the hot blonde in the back row?

the Talking Can
01-09-2012, 12:34 PM
basically sounded like a bunch of content people who were content to continue on without major changes with either Cassel or Orton....no one thinks we need a QB, and we sure as hell aren't drafting one...ever


i see many more years of mediocre whatever-ness...

The Bad Guy
01-09-2012, 12:34 PM
Still sounds like Orton doesn't want to be here though.

Based on what?

KC Tattoo
01-09-2012, 12:34 PM
Now we just need to franchise Bowe then make a trade to Indy. I'd trade Bowe, Cassel and our first two draft picks for Manning. Then if we could retain Carr, and spend the rest of our draft picks and free agency money on the O-line, we'd be set. See how easy that'd be?

"SNAP"

The sound a neck makes getting broke.

Mr. Laz
01-09-2012, 12:35 PM
Now we just need to franchise Bowe then make a trade to Indy. I'd trade Bowe, Cassel and our first two draft picks for Manning. Then if we could retain Carr, and spend the rest of our draft picks and free agency money on the O-line, we'd be set. See how easy that'd be?
The Colts would have to give Manning 28 million in bonus money to be able to keep him long him enough to trade him.

Colts keep Manning or he becomes a free agent

Jawshco
01-09-2012, 12:35 PM
I wonder what the track record is for head coaches who leave the Browns and HC elsewhere? We got Marty and Belichick that I know of. Probably meaningless, but failure as a Browns HC doesn't gaurantee failure elsewhere. I'm hopefull that RAC will keeping improving our team. Seems to stand up to Pioli as well.

DaWolf
01-09-2012, 12:36 PM
Hunt does not look completely sold on the situation.

Anyone else read it differently?

I just saw his facial expressions. I didn't hear his comments.

Hunt is who he is. He will rarely come across as anything but robotic in press conferences...

ForeverChiefs58
01-09-2012, 12:36 PM
Crennel-"Matt Cassel hasnt fallen of the wagon overnight."
No, matt Cassels been falling off the wagon for 2 years now...

Cassel is an alcoholic? I thought he played like he was drunk.

The Bad Guy
01-09-2012, 12:37 PM
There you go, guys.

Enjoy Romeo. Derek Anderson, Matt Cassel, what's the ****ing difference.

You act like the HC has the chance to affect Pioli's thinking.

Romeo is actually a fine hire. This is the worst crop of coaches I can ever remember. Bad year to be looking for one, but he made a lot of sense.

The Bad Guy
01-09-2012, 12:37 PM
Hunt is who he is. He will rarely come across as anything but robotic in press conferences...

Except when he's gushing about Pioli.

ChiefsCountry
01-09-2012, 12:38 PM
Wait till we sign Brady Quinn.

ChiefFripp
01-09-2012, 12:38 PM
The Chiefs do not need to trade Bowe, they could pay both of them and keep their draft picks.

Giving up picks for Manning and his injury is foolish. Insanely foolish.

With Luck in Indy, if Manning was traded to another team, he'd have so much of a chip on his shoulder I doubt the neck injury would factor in. Not to mention , with the success he's had with a crappy supporting cast in the past, Imagine what he could do with Baldwin, Breaston and McClsuster. If we could keep Bowe, that would be a plus. That O with our emerging D!!

I know this is stuff of fantasy but it's not the first time I have gone online to fantasize.

Pestilence
01-09-2012, 12:38 PM
Awesome.....another year of Mark Castle.

Fritz88
01-09-2012, 12:38 PM
They pretty much just said Cassel is the man.

How did you come to this conclusion?

He also said that Orton is the reason he was hired as a HC.

He said the usual things about Cassel "We won with him, he got us to the playoffs". He won't flame him because he might need him if the Orton route does not work.

I think it's almost 50/50 with an edge to Orton.

ChiefFripp
01-09-2012, 12:38 PM
The Colts would have to give Manning 28 million in bonus money to be able to keep him long him enough to trade him.

Colts keep Manning or he becomes a free agent

That's what my friend told me the other day, forgot to factor that in.

Oh and congratulations to Romeo! I wasn't one of the people ready to throw Haley under the bus, but if we had to make a change, I'm glad it went to Crennel.

Cornstock
01-09-2012, 12:39 PM
Cassel is an alcoholic? I thought he played like he was drunk.

haha I dont think thats how Crennel meant it but this :LOL:
last time he fell off the wagon he jammed his finger and got put on IR

Chocolate Hog
01-09-2012, 12:40 PM
Based on what?

His post game comments in Denver and RAC's comments today seemed to play down expectations. I wish Pioli would have jumped in and said we'll try everything we possibly can to bring Kyle back but it sure as fuck didn't sound that way at all. Like Talking Can said it all sounded very content with what they have.

Frosty
01-09-2012, 12:40 PM
Wait till we sign Brady Quinn.

RAC wouldn't play Quinn when he had him. I don't see why he would want him now.

The Bad Guy
01-09-2012, 12:40 PM
With Luck in Indy, if Manning was traded to another team, he'd have so much of a chip on his shoulder I doubt the neck injury would factor in. Not to mention , with the success he's had with a crappy supporting cast in the past, Imagine what he could do with Baldwin, Breaston and McClsuster. If we could keep Bowe, that would be a plus. That O with our emerging D!!

I know this is stuff of fantasy but it's not the first time I have gone online to fantasize.

Yes, because all the drive and chip on shoulders can overcome a neck injury.

Fritz88
01-09-2012, 12:40 PM
I will gladly take a year with Orton over Cassel. If we are not drafting a QB then going with Orton means two things:

He wins big for us next year. (No way that happens).
He sucks and we draft a QB in 2013.

The only problem is him wanting too much money and since the market is kind of hot for QBs now, he might have a leverage over us.

WhiteWhale
01-09-2012, 12:40 PM
With Luck in Indy, if Manning was traded to another team, he'd have so much of a chip on his shoulder I doubt the neck injury would factor in. Not to mention , with the success he's had with a crappy supporting cast in the past, Imagine what he could do with Baldwin, Breaston and McClsuster. If we could keep Bowe, that would be a plus. That O with our emerging D!!

I know this is stuff of fantasy but it's not the first time I have gone online to fantasize.

Injuries don't go away because people are mad.

Dude is 1 hit from a wheelchair. He's had 3 neck surgeries. This isn't his knee we're talking about. People who think he's coming back are in a fantasy.

Dayze
01-09-2012, 12:41 PM
Adam Teicher is a disgrace to journalism...

ever hear him talk? JFC, dude is a stuttering idiot. He's as unbearable to listen to as his columns are to read.

DaWolf
01-09-2012, 12:42 PM
You act like the HC has the chance to affect Pioli's thinking.

Romeo is actually a fine hire. This is the worst crop of coaches I can ever remember. Bad year to be looking for one, but he made a lot of sense.

2009 was pretty sad too.


Mike Singletary
Steve Spagnuolo
Jim Schwartz
Rex Ryan
Todd Haley
Josh McDaniels
Raheem Morris
Eric Mangini
Tom Cable


Basically Schwartz and Ryan were the best hires, and I'm not sure how well Schwartz does if his predecessor doesn't go 0-16 and allow them to get Stafford to pair with Megatron, because that defense is atrocious and Gunther is a bad hire. Ryan I've never liked but people seem to think he's a good coach, so whatever...

ChiefsCountry
01-09-2012, 12:43 PM
RAC wouldn't play Quinn when he had him. I don't see why he would want him now.

Anderson won in Quinn's rookie year kind of hard to play him and started out the second the same way, then Anderson fell off the wagon and Quinn got hurt.

Carlota69
01-09-2012, 12:45 PM
The Chiefs do not need to trade Bowe, they could pay both of them and keep their draft picks.

Giving up picks for Manning and his injury is foolish. Insanely foolish.

Theres no trading for Manning. Either he is a Colt or he is a FA. Plus, no one even knows if he'll ever play again. The fascination with Peyton is unbelievable.

Chief Roundup
01-09-2012, 12:46 PM
I didn't get that. I think they'd like to have him back at a team friendly contract, but it sounded like "Hey, Kyle did a good job, but he's a free agent and he's probably not going to want to come back and compete with Cassel for the job."

What I did get out of it is that Cassel is NOT getting the outright "this is definitely the guy" support he's gotten before...

Hmm don't know. Crennel thanked Orton twice and said that if it wasn't for Orton he probably wouldn't be setting there.

KC_Lee
01-09-2012, 12:47 PM
Theres no trading for Manning. Either he is a Colt or he is a FA. Plus, no one even knows if he'll ever play again. The fascination with Peyton is unbelievable.


I would say half of it is a fascination with Peyton and the other half is the fact that acquiring Manning would be a Chief move.

Avoid drafting and developing a QB like the plague but pick up a broken down QB.

Frosty
01-09-2012, 12:48 PM
Anderson won in Quinn's rookie year kind of hard to play him and started out the second the same way, then Anderson fell off the wagon and Quinn got hurt.

I know that. DA is from my alma mater, so I watched a lot of Browns games in '07 and '08. RAC seemed very reluctant to play Quinn, even in '08 when it was obvious that DA was struggling. Either he is very loyal or he thinks Quinn isn't very good. Quinn hasn't done anything since to dispel that notion, either. I'd expect DA before Quinn.

Pestilence
01-09-2012, 12:49 PM
Wait till we sign Brady Quinn.

I'd rather have Quinn than Cassel.

Pestilence
01-09-2012, 12:49 PM
I know that. DA is from my alma mater, so I watched a lot of Browns games in '07 and '08. RAC seemed very reluctant to play Quinn, even in '08 when it was obvious that DA was struggling. Either he is very loyal or he thinks Quinn isn't very good. Quinn hasn't done anything since to dispel that notion, either. I'd expect DA before Quinn.

Quinn was put in a shitty situation to begin with.

Royal Fanatic
01-09-2012, 12:50 PM
If he is a Chief already he sucks (http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=117014&highlight=chiefs+planet+lexicon)
Well, at least a lot of thought went into the reasoning there.

ChiefsNow
01-09-2012, 12:51 PM
I miss Todd Haley already.

htismaqe
01-09-2012, 12:52 PM
"We are still working on this team".

"Process"

"Too early to expect us winning big"

Awesome, setting the bar high right off the bat.

Dayze
01-09-2012, 12:52 PM
I have a feeling Charles will be ridden into the ground next year.

Frosty
01-09-2012, 12:53 PM
Quinn was put in a shitty situation to begin with.

I know that this was a battle between our guys but there was a huge outcry to play Quinn even during DA's great 10-5 season. It got even louder when DA started out poorly. It would have been very easy to put Quinn in and placate the masses but they didn't until the season was lost. Either RAC is stupid or there was something wrong with Quinn. Since Quinn went straight to back up after leaving the Browns, it points to him being a bad QB.

Do you think the Browns "ruined" him?

Royal Fanatic
01-09-2012, 12:53 PM
And with that statement, Romeo is dead to me.
Really?

What do you expect him to say? Should he say "Well, Scott Pioli was a fucking idiot for bringing in Matt Cassel because Cassel sucks"?

Some of you guys have a lot to learn about tact.

Royal Fanatic
01-09-2012, 12:54 PM
I miss Todd Haley already.

I don't.

ChiefsNow
01-09-2012, 12:55 PM
Really?

What do you expect him to say? Should he say "Well, Scott Pioli was a ****ing idiot for bringing in Matt Cassel because Cassel sucks"?

Some of you guys have a lot to learn about tact.

You have to talk nice about Cassel if you want to trade him.

the Talking Can
01-09-2012, 12:55 PM
i just wish that someone in this organization would talk about how important the QB position is, and that you have do any it takes to get the right guy...


but they all think you can go 9-7 with any vet piece of shit and maybe get lucky and that's good enough for them...plus they all like each other and that's the most important thing, it takes a team to count Clark's money

Mr. Laz
01-09-2012, 12:56 PM
I miss Todd Haley already.
shoot yourself in the face

Mr. Laz
01-09-2012, 12:57 PM
I have a feeling Charles will be ridden into the ground next year.


Charles needs more carries

Douche Baggins
01-09-2012, 12:57 PM
You act like the HC has the chance to affect Pioli's thinking.


Romeo should not have taken the job if he didn't have a say in who the QB was.

So he's either a puppet or a retard if he allows Cassel to start.

ChiefsNow
01-09-2012, 12:58 PM
I liked haley. Don't know what really went down behind the scenes, but I guess I'm a homer. I'll settle in with whoever we have and hope for the best. Polio needs to do SOMETHING though. Need a whopper move in the draft or free agency, trades, whatever.

Dayze
01-09-2012, 12:58 PM
Charles needs more carries

LMAO

he needs to make up for what he lost this year.

Pestilence
01-09-2012, 12:58 PM
I know that this was a battle between our guys but there was a huge outcry to play Quinn even during DA's great 10-5 season. It got even louder when DA started out poorly. It would have been very easy to put Quinn in and placate the masses but they didn't until the season was lost. Either RAC is stupid or there was something wrong with Quinn. Since Quinn went straight to back up after leaving the Browns, it points to him being a bad QB.

Do you think the Browns "ruined" him?

Ruined him? No. Set him back? Yes.

Quinn sitting for the first year because of DA's success was fine. Mangini fucked up Quinn because anytime he threw an INT....he would get pulled. Then he would get put back in....until he screwed up again and then he would get pulled. Quinn never really got an opportunity to "learn" from his mistakes. Then he gets traded to the Broncos....and he gets to sit behind Orton and Tebow. He was never really going to get a chance to compete in that situation.

Do I think Quinn is a Top 10 QB? No. But he can at least be a really good backup QB.

ChiefsNow
01-09-2012, 12:59 PM
shoot yourself in the face

NO! That would hurt too much.

KC_Lee
01-09-2012, 01:00 PM
i just wish that someone in this organization would talk about how important the QB position is, and that you have do any it takes to get the right guy...


Why start now?

BCD
01-09-2012, 01:00 PM
You cant ruin a young QB.

If he sucks at this level it just means hes not good enough.

htismaqe
01-09-2012, 01:00 PM
Romeo should not have taken the job if he didn't have a say in who the QB was.

So he's either a puppet or a retard if he allows Cassel to start.

This.

There's only 2 options if Cassel starts:

1) He knows Cassel sucks but starts him anyway because he has no real power or influence (or because he's just thankful to be given the job) - aka Gunther Cunningham or
2) He doesn't know Cassel sucks and therefore isn't fit to be a head coach.

Dayze
01-09-2012, 01:00 PM
^ +1 Dave

scho63
01-09-2012, 01:00 PM
I'm trying to listen to the follow up on 810 sports radio from the local fans and it's nothing but f*cking commericals! WTF? One question or call from a listener and then 5 minutes of ads? This sucks

Mr. Laz
01-09-2012, 01:01 PM
I liked haley. Don't know what really went down behind the scenes, but I guess I'm a homer. I'll settle in with whoever we have and hope for the best. Polio needs to do SOMETHING though. Need a whopper move in the draft or free agency, trades, whatever.
so you're a homer for everyone but the GM?

Haley is one of Pioli's mistakes ... Cassel the other


yet you miss Haley but hate Pioli?


weird

Pestilence
01-09-2012, 01:01 PM
You cant ruin a young QB.

If he sucks at this level it just means hes not good enough.

:spock:

htismaqe
01-09-2012, 01:02 PM
I'm trying to listen to the follow up on 810 sports radio from the local fans and it's nothing but f*cking commericals! WTF? One question or call from a listener and then 5 minutes of ads? This sucks

It's the top of the hour. It is commercial radio after all...

Dayze
01-09-2012, 01:02 PM
I'm trying to listen to the follow up on 810 sports radio from the local fans and it's nothing but f*cking commericals! WTF? One question or call from a listener and then 5 minutes of ads? This sucks

welcome to KC radio.

just wait until they return from commercials and spend 4 minutes talking about where they're broadcsting from and all the great specials etc.

Douche Baggins
01-09-2012, 01:02 PM
Cassel single-handedly strung Romeo's defense out to dry in the two losses that turned our season south...Miami and Denver....

How can he possibly pick him?

Mr. Laz
01-09-2012, 01:03 PM
You cant ruin a young QB.

If he sucks at this level it just means hes not good enough.
wow ... you just topped your idiotic 'coaching doesn't matter' statement.


That's quite the accomplishment.

FringeNC
01-09-2012, 01:03 PM
Romeo should not have taken the job if he didn't have a say in who the QB was.

So he's either a puppet or a retard if he allows Cassel to start.

I'm not sure Crennel would have taken the job if he has no say on the QB. We'll see if Cassel starts. The simple fact they were talking about a free-agent, Kyle Orton, suggests to me that Orton is the guy. Obviously, if Orton is re-signed, no way Cassel can beat him out.

KCChiefsFan88
01-09-2012, 01:03 PM
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Lots of fail here

All the homers are jacking off to this picture of epic fail.

ChiefsCountry
01-09-2012, 01:03 PM
I'm trying to listen to the follow up on 810 sports radio from the local fans and it's nothing but f*cking commericals! WTF? One question or call from a listener and then 5 minutes of ads? This sucks

You hit the bottom/top of the hour, that is always commerical time for every radio station.

Douche Baggins
01-09-2012, 01:04 PM
Two white men flanking a black man...RACIST!

ChiefsCountry
01-09-2012, 01:04 PM
All the homers are jacking off to this picture of epic fail.

You, GoChiefs and Nick Athan are jacking off to Jeff Fisher.

ChiefsNow
01-09-2012, 01:04 PM
so you're a homer for everyone but the GM?

Haley is one of Pioli's mistakes ... Cassel the other


yet you miss Haley but hate Pioli?


weird

Atcually , I don't really hate Pioli yet. But he needs to make a splash this year. I'm not so sure there wasn't some Pioli/Crennel backstabbing going on with Haley.

DaWolf
01-09-2012, 01:06 PM
Yeah, let's get real here. NO ONE is going to be hired by an NFL team and then step into a news conference and start throwing existing players under a bus. No 1, that's bad form. No 2, you immediately lose a locker room if you do that.

The closest thing Romeo is going to get to saying something bad about a player was when he demoted Palko to third string and said "Well this is a production based game and I thanked Tyler for what he's done, but we're looking for more production from the QB so I'm going to give Kyle and Stanzi an opportunity to see what they've got."

The fact that there was not an unequivocal "Matt Cassel is the guy and we're going to ride him to the Super Bowl" statement in that news conference speaks volumes...

Mr. Laz
01-09-2012, 01:06 PM
Atcually , I don't really hate Pioli yet. But he needs to make a splash this year. I'm not so sure there wasn't some Pioli/Crennel backstabbing going on with Haley.

my bad, i guess when you called him Polio i just assumed ....


:spock:

Chiefnj2
01-09-2012, 01:08 PM
Right now Cassel is the only real QB on the roster. What the heck do people expect Romeo to say at this point? He might never get Orton even if that's who he prefers. Palko shouldn't be on an NFL roster, and for whatever reason Stanzi wasn't able to take a snap this year. Cassel is the only QB with game experience. He's not going to crap on the guy.

scho63
01-09-2012, 01:09 PM
You hit the bottom/top of the hour, that is always commerical time for every radio station.

Wow-I don't listen to sports radio in my car so this is all new.

Thanks ;)

Douche Baggins
01-09-2012, 01:10 PM
You, GoChiefs and Nick "Assclown" Athan are jacking off to Jeff Fisher.

Better to jack off than not even become aroused.

Mr. Laz
01-09-2012, 01:10 PM
The fact that there was not an unequivocal "Matt Cassel is the guy and we're going to ride him to the Super Bowl" statement in that news conference speaks volumes...
yep, any time a team doesn't say their starter is 100% their guy then he's more than likely on the way out.

What Crennel really just said was 'Cassel is my fallback guy in case i can't get a replacement. I don't want to burn that bridge yet'

Frosty
01-09-2012, 01:11 PM
Ruined him? No. Set him back? Yes.

Quinn sitting for the first year because of DA's success was fine. Mangini ****ed up Quinn because anytime he threw an INT....he would get pulled. Then he would get put back in....until he screwed up again and then he would get pulled. Quinn never really got an opportunity to "learn" from his mistakes. Then he gets traded to the Broncos....and he gets to sit behind Orton and Tebow. He was never really going to get a chance to compete in that situation.

Do I think Quinn is a Top 10 QB? No. But he can at least be a really good backup QB.

Fair enough. I have to admit to looking at the situation through orange colored glasses. I was curious about the gold colored view. :)

I wouldn't be opposed to BQ as a cheap back up.

htismaqe
01-09-2012, 01:11 PM
welcome to KC radio.

just wait until they return from commercials and spend 4 minutes talking about where they're broadcsting from and all the great specials etc.

That's how they make MONEY, money without which they couldn't broadcast.

-King-
01-09-2012, 01:12 PM
yep, any time a team doesn't say their starter is 100% their guy then he's more than likely on the way out.

What Crennel really just said was 'Cassel is my fallback guy in case i can't get a replacement. I don't want to burn that bridge yet'

:clap::clap:

htismaqe
01-09-2012, 01:13 PM
Yeah, let's get real here. NO ONE is going to be hired by an NFL team and then step into a news conference and start throwing existing players under a bus. No 1, that's bad form. No 2, you immediately lose a locker room if you do that.

And you immediately lose a large portion of your fanbase if you don't - you know, the people that, in the end, pay the freaking bills.

Chiefnj2
01-09-2012, 01:14 PM
And you immediately lose a large portion of your fanbase if you don't - you know, the people that, in the end, pay the freaking bills.

He didn't lose his fan base.

Tebow winning a playoff game has KC fans going off the deep end.

Douche Baggins
01-09-2012, 01:14 PM
Crennel: "I don't know what a player's coach is..."

Let me introduce you to a mirror...

http://i43.tinypic.com/14lhu7a.jpg

dallaschiefsfan
01-09-2012, 01:15 PM
Really?

What do you expect him to say? Should he say "Well, Scott Pioli was a ****ing idiot for bringing in Matt Cassel because Cassel sucks"?

Some of you guys have a lot to learn about tact.

No...he simply said more than the question required. His choice of additional information is not only unnecessary, but also shows his lack of connection with the fans that want nothing that even hints of selling Cassel as our QB.

ChiefsNow
01-09-2012, 01:15 PM
I can't remember where I saw it, maybe on NFL channel , some video at the end of a game, I think it may have been the Miami game. They showed Haley making a comment , Crennel, just ignored him. Haley kind of gave him a double take with a ( you motherfuckers are fucking me ) look on his face and walked away. That's how It looked to me.

Chiefnj2
01-09-2012, 01:16 PM
No...he simply said more than the question required. His choice of additional information is not only unnecessary, but also shows his lack of connection with the fans that want nothing that even hints of selling Cassel as our QB.

His lack of connection with the fans. That's funny.

tk13
01-09-2012, 01:17 PM
And you immediately lose a large portion of your fanbase if you don't - you know, the people that, in the end, pay the freaking bills.

I haven't seen any of the major TV networks upset over Crennel's comments. :)
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Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 01:19 PM
You hit the bottom/top of the hour, that is always commerical time for every radio station.

Actually it's not. Hitting breaks on quarter hours is the quickest way to kill your cume in the ratings. Now if you're talking strictly talk radio it's a little different but for any other format it's a killer. Just sayin.

-King-
01-09-2012, 01:20 PM
Nick Wright is in full blown conspiracy mode.

He now says that Romeo/Clark's comments about winning are false and that they don't care about winning.

Jeez! You can't win with some people.

One minute you're crying about how Clark hasn't said that he's committed to winning, but when he does say it, people cry about how they don't mean it.

ROFL

Sofa King
01-09-2012, 01:21 PM
I can't remember where I saw it, maybe on NFL channel , some video at the end of a game, I think it may have been the Miami game. They showed Haley making a comment , Crennel, just ignored him. Haley kind of gave him a double take with a ( you mother****ers are ****ing me ) look on his face and walked away. That's how It looked to me.

Was it the "You keep these boys together" comment?

That's one that has been on my mind. Crennel didn't say shit back to haley. Looked like there was alot of friction there.

-King-
01-09-2012, 01:22 PM
Nick Wright is on a rant about Clark saying that he wants to draft, develop, and keep great players. ROFL

BCD
01-09-2012, 01:23 PM
Tebow winning a playoff game has KC fans going off the deep end.

Your and Idiot

Douche Baggins
01-09-2012, 01:23 PM
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Lots of fail here

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DaWolf
01-09-2012, 01:24 PM
And you immediately lose a large portion of your fanbase if you don't - you know, the people that, in the end, pay the freaking bills.

I don't think you start buying season tickets if he tells you he's cutting Matt Cassel at a press conference. You're still waiting to see who the next QB is going to be at that point...

htismaqe
01-09-2012, 01:25 PM
I don't think you start buying season tickets if he tells you he's cutting Matt Cassel at a press conference. You're still waiting to see who the next QB is going to be at that point...

I'm not. I don't care who the QB is as long as it isn't Cassel. And there's LOTS of people out there just like me.

ChiefsNow
01-09-2012, 01:26 PM
Was it the "You keep these boys together" comment?

That's one that has been on my mind. Crennel didn't say shit back to haley. Looked like there was alot of friction there.


:thumb: exactly, That was it. thanks. Yeah, I thought Crennel was undermining him right there.

Sofa King
01-09-2012, 01:27 PM
:thumb: exactly, That was it. thanks. Yeah, I thought Crennel was undermining him right there.

I don't know about that. But i do think people were fucking sick of Haley by then. Muir didn't seem too happy with him either, not that i give a shit.

The writing was on the wall.

Chiefnj2
01-09-2012, 01:29 PM
I can't believe people actually expected Crennel to take the stage and throw a player under the bus and openly question the only QB on the roster who has won an NFL game.

Chocolate Hog
01-09-2012, 01:29 PM
A Romeo Crennel, Gary Gibbs, Brian Daboll coached team is going to pwnt this league. Great hire!

Chiefnj2
01-09-2012, 01:33 PM
Son of Packers offensive coordinator Philbin missing
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 9, 2012, 2:45 PM EST
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The 21-year-old son of Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin has been reported as missing.

The Associated Press reports that Michael Philbin had been visiting friends in Oshkosh when he was last seen Sunday at 2. a.m. CT. He was reported missing on Sunday evening.

Michael Philbin spent six months in jail in 2009. He was convicted of sexually assaulting two young girls, along with two counts of battery.

Joe Philbin met with the Chiefs and Dolphins about their head coaching vacancy.

UPDATE 3:20 p.m. ET: Packers G.M. Ted Thompson released a statement on the matter.

“The Packers organization is aware of the missing person report regarding Michael Philbin, son of offensive coordinator Joe Philbin. Our thoughts and prayers are with the Philbin family during this difficult time. We ask anyone with information about Michael to contact the Oshkosh Police Department.”

petegz28
01-09-2012, 01:34 PM
How did you come to this conclusion?

He also said that Orton is the reason he was hired as a HC.

He said the usual things about Cassel "We won with him, he got us to the playoffs". He won't flame him because he might need him if the Orton route does not work.

I think it's almost 50/50 with an edge to Orton.

It just came across to me as if he knows Pioli wants Cassel. It sounded like an obligatory peter-puffing of Cassel because he knows that's who Pioli wants.

KCChiefsFan88
01-09-2012, 01:35 PM
Famous last words from Fat Scott during his introduction press conference in 2009:

"It's not about having the best people, It's about having the right people".

I.e. the "right people"... a cheap talent-less roster that keeps the Chiefs millions upon millions under the salary cap and a yes-man puppet for HC.

Welcome to Fat Scott's personal utopia of mediocre football.

ChiefsNow
01-09-2012, 01:36 PM
I don't know about that. But i do think people were ****ing sick of Haley by then. Muir didn't seem too happy with him either, not that i give a shit.

The writing was on the wall.

True, but I liked the fact Haley is young. He didn't have a QB which makes it hard for any coach. Haley showed improvement from when he started. He settled down. He was a rookie coach who the Chiefs brought to the forefront and didn't stick with him. I would have liked to see what he could do with a good QB. I would have given him 1 more year. But that's just me. I still think could be good in time.

I'm not bitching though, people who know a whole hell alot more than me are making decisions. I just go by the gut feelings I have as a fan.

ChiefsCountry
01-09-2012, 01:37 PM
Actually it's not. Hitting breaks on quarter hours is the quickest way to kill your cume in the ratings. Now if you're talking strictly talk radio it's a little different but for any other format it's a killer. Just sayin.

I was talking about talk radio should have clarified.
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HemiEd
01-09-2012, 01:37 PM
I'm not. I don't care who the QB is as long as it isn't Cassel. And there's LOTS of people out there just like me.

Sign me up,

Palko had better pocket presence than Cassel. That is saying something.

dallaschiefsfan
01-09-2012, 01:37 PM
I can't believe people actually expected Crennel to take the stage and throw a player under the bus and openly question the only QB on the roster who has won an NFL game.

Of course he's not going to throw people under the bus. Nobody really wanted/expected that. Instead of saying very little when addressing players under contract that you're not pleased with, he went out of his way to say things that were not required by the question he was asked. If he's pleased with Cassel, this is a terrible hire.

It's like with the IRS and law enforcement. You answer the question they're asking...and provide ZERO additional information that could lead to other questions.

htismaqe
01-09-2012, 01:38 PM
I can't believe people actually expected Crennel to take the stage and throw a player under the bus and openly question the only QB on the roster who has won an NFL game.

Expected him to? No. I'm realistic.

I'm also EXTREMELY disappointed with the direction of the franchise.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 01:40 PM
I was talking about talk radio should have clarified.
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Not a problem, I should have read backwards.

ChiefsandO'sfan
01-09-2012, 01:40 PM
evansilvaEvan Silva

#Chiefs HC Romeo Crennel on Matt Cassel: "He's a good QB, he's taken us to a playoff. I anticipate he can do it again." http://is.gd/dbaQZU

ChiefFripp
01-09-2012, 01:40 PM
I can't believe people actually expected Crennel to take the stage and throw a player under the bus and openly question the only QB on the roster who has won an NFL game.

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kc rush
01-09-2012, 01:40 PM
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Sorry to derail, but something about that picture reminds me of this.

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Now back to your regularly scheduled bitching.

gold_and_red
01-09-2012, 01:42 PM
Cassel single-handedly strung Romeo's defense out to dry in the two losses that turned our season south...Miami and Denver....

How can he possibly pick him?

This.
And Romeo's D must have seen enough of Cassel in practice for the last 2 years. Its impossible to believe Romeo doesn't know that he is setup to fail with Cassel as the starter.

mlyonsd
01-09-2012, 01:42 PM
I'm just as excited as I was when Herm was hired.

stonedstooge
01-09-2012, 01:43 PM
Does Pioli keep his shades closed too?

BoneKrusher
01-09-2012, 01:43 PM
I'm also EXTREMELY disappointed with the direction of the franchise.

the direction of the Franchise is good if you're ok with getting blown out by below average teams (Bills and Dolphins) at arrowhead on a weekly basis i guess.

KCChiefsFan88
01-09-2012, 01:44 PM
KU has a better head coach than the Chiefs.

BoneKrusher
01-09-2012, 01:44 PM
I'm just as excited as I was when Herm was hired.

LMAO

BCD
01-09-2012, 01:50 PM
evansilvaEvan Silva

#Chiefs HC Romeo Crennel on Matt Cassel: "He's a good QB, he's taken us to a playoff. I anticipate he can do it again." http://is.gd/dbaQZU

fml

:facepalm:

DaWolf
01-09-2012, 01:52 PM
evansilvaEvan Silva

#Chiefs HC Romeo Crennel on Matt Cassel: "He's a good QB, he's taken us to a playoff. I anticipate he can do it again." http://is.gd/dbaQZU

How I took that: "If Haley can win a division with him, so can I. I'm not saying however that I can win a Super Bowl with the guy."

He also added "We'll see how it shakes down after this free agency thing is over with."

BoneKrusher
01-09-2012, 02:00 PM
How I took that: "If Haley can win a division with him, so can I. I'm not saying however that I can win a Super Bowl with the guy."


But Haley with Cassel played the NFC West that's a lot easier than the NFC South.

ChiefsandO'sfan
01-09-2012, 02:00 PM
Chiefs the more things change the more they stay the same.

siberian khatru
01-09-2012, 02:00 PM
evansilvaEvan Silva

#Chiefs HC Romeo Crennel on Matt Cassel: "He's a good QB, he's taken us to a playoff. I anticipate he can do it again." http://is.gd/dbaQZU

http://lazio.theoffside.com/files/2008/11/frustration.gif

siberian khatru
01-09-2012, 02:01 PM
He also added "We'll see how it shakes down after this free agency thing is over with."

http://coloring.thecolor.com/color/images/Hope.gif

KCChiefsFan88
01-09-2012, 02:02 PM
How I took that: "If Haley can win a division with him, so can I. I'm not saying however that I can win a Super Bowl with the guy."

He also added "We'll see how it shakes down after this free agency thing is over with."

"Free Agency Thing"? Fat Scott won't do jack-shit in free agency.

Dayze
01-09-2012, 02:04 PM
wish they'd try that "Drafting a First Round Quarterback" thing.

or, winning that 'Super Bowl Thing"

DeezNutz
01-09-2012, 02:04 PM
I'm just as excited as I was when Herm was hired.

This sentence is a show of support for the above sentiment.

HemiEd
01-09-2012, 02:05 PM
Chiefs the more things change the more they stay the same.

That is pretty much it in a nutshell.

I have always defended the Hunts, but they are really the only common denominator.

For the longest time it was Carl, but a lot what we blamed Carl for, seem to remain the same.

DeezNutz
01-09-2012, 02:06 PM
I can't believe people actually expected Crennel to take the stage and throw a player under the bus and openly question the only QB on the roster who has won an NFL game.

Doesn't have to throw anyone under the bus, but a statement about the overall importance of the QB position would have made me feel better. Something like, "This is a QB-driven league, so we need to ensure that we have a strong player under center."

Doesn't have to commit to a player or criticize one overtly.

Chocolate Hog
01-09-2012, 02:07 PM
This sentence is a show of support for the above sentiment.

Why? We have one of the best Gm's and D-Cordinators running the franchise now.

DeezNutz
01-09-2012, 02:08 PM
Why? We have one of the best Gm's.

Pioli was fired today?

Chocolate Hog
01-09-2012, 02:10 PM
Pioli was fired today?

HAHA Clark Hunt isn't committed to winning? That's ridiculous!

HemiEd
01-09-2012, 02:11 PM
Doesn't have to throw anyone under the bus, but a statement about the overall importance of the QB position would have made me feel better. Something like, "This is a QB-driven league, so we need to ensure that we have a strong player under center."

Doesn't have to commit to a player or criticize one overtly.

I am going to give RC a pass for today, since he wanted this job so bad and was obviously not wanting to start something on his first PC.

I feel really good that RC will not allow Cassel to keep him from being successful.

BoneKrusher
01-09-2012, 02:17 PM
Something like, "This is a QB-driven league, so we need to ensure that we have a strong player under center."


i'd say the Crennel Hiring went something like this:


Scott Pioli: Romeo you know if i hire you for the head coaching gig, you have to Play Cassel as the starting QB, right?

Crennel: Awww Man.

Scott Pioli: take it or leave it.

Crennel: wtf, it's better than being DC, i'll try it.

LOCOChief
01-09-2012, 02:19 PM
Glad to have him, I think it's the right chioce at this time. there's no way RAC's going play his hand yet. I donno why some seem to think the Crennel = Cassel

ChiefsCountry
01-09-2012, 02:19 PM
Not a problem, I should have read backwards.

No problem for music the breaks are normally at :18 and :38 right and sometimes at :50?

petegz28
01-09-2012, 02:21 PM
Glad to have him, I think it's the right chioce at this time. there's no way RAC's going play his hand yet. I donno why some seem to think the Crennel = Cassel

It's not so muc that Crennel=Cassel as it is Pioli=Cassel

CaliforniaChief
01-09-2012, 02:22 PM
I like the hire. I think the way he handled the QB situation over the past 3 weeks gives me hope that RAC sees the value of having a good QB and has the willingness to do what it takes to put that guy out there.

His determination to not go down the same road he went down in Cleveland tells me he's going to make the changes we need made. Both RAC and Scott Pioli know their jobs are on the line now.

Pestilence
01-09-2012, 02:24 PM
I like the hire. I think the way he handled the QB situation over the past 3 weeks gives me hope that RAC sees the value of having a good QB and has the willingness to do what it takes to put that guy out there.

His determination to not go down the same road he went down in Cleveland tells me he's going to make the changes we need made. Both RAC and Scott Pioli know their jobs are on the line now.

:spock:

Did you not read the last 2 pages?

BigChiefFan
01-09-2012, 02:25 PM
I was a little distracted during the interview, but didn't all three of them start laughing when asked about the QB position?

Mr_Tomahawk
01-09-2012, 02:25 PM
So now we sit and debate for the next 2 months whether or not they resign Orton?

Blaaaaaaah....

Pestilence
01-09-2012, 02:27 PM
So now we sit and debate for the next 2 months whether or not they resign Orton?

Blaaaaaaah....

Nope....because it's probably not going to happen.

Just like drafting a QB in the 1st round isn't going to happen either.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 02:28 PM
No problem for music the breaks are normally at :18 and :38 right and sometimes at :50?

In that range yes. Mine are :24, :40 and :52. The idea being to sweep through each quarter hour with music to gain cume there and only lose it when the quarter ends... gain it again... and so forth.

However (trade secret for any other radio folks... Bob Dobbs, who probably knows) I like to start my breaks about 2 minutes before the competition. That way if my station goes to commercials and people hit the button and switch, the other station is going into commercials in a couple minutes so they hit the button again and when they come back to me I'm going back into music.... and I've got them for the next music sweep. Rinse, repeat. I just killed their cume and built mine. They're welcome.

ChiefsandO'sfan
01-09-2012, 02:32 PM
Nope....because it's probably not going to happen.

Just like drafting a QB in the 1st round isn't going to happen either.

This

lcarus
01-09-2012, 02:33 PM
"The Chiefs have an amazing, rich history"

http://davincidilemma.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Hugh-Laurie.jpg

LOCOChief
01-09-2012, 02:35 PM
It's not so muc that Crennel=Cassel as it is Pioli=Cassel

crennel has more experience and coaching credentials that any other candidate out there. There is nothing that says to me that he is an absolute yes man. I like the hire and I don't think that it has makes any difference as to whose under center this year.

I don't want Cassel either just saying it's not a given because RAC the HC

ChiefsandO'sfan
01-09-2012, 02:37 PM
So what coaches get fired tonight or tomorrow???? I'll go with Bill Muir,Richie Anderson,Steve Hoffman,Bernie Parmalee,Pat Perles,Jim Zorn......


I really hope Nick Sirianni is here in 2012.

LOCOChief
01-09-2012, 02:37 PM
I like the hire. I think the way he handled the QB situation over the past 3 weeks gives me hope that RAC sees the value of having a good QB and has the willingness to do what it takes to put that guy out there.

His determination to not go down the same road he went down in Cleveland tells me he's going to make the changes we need made. Both RAC and Scott Pioli know their jobs are on the line now.

This. I have to agree with this.

Mr_Tomahawk
01-09-2012, 02:38 PM
So what coaches get fired tonight or tomorrow???? I'll go with Bill Muir,Richie Anderson,Steve Hoffman,Bernie Parmalee,Pat Perles,Jim Zorn......


I really hope Nick Sirianni is here in 2012.

I doubt Zorn will get canned...

DeezNutz
01-09-2012, 02:39 PM
i'd say the Crennel Hiring went something like this:


Scott Pioli: Romeo you know if i hire you for the head coaching gig, you have to Play Cassel as the starting QB, right?

Crennel: Awww Man.

Scott Pioli: take it or leave it.

Crennel: wtf, it's better than being DC, i'll try it.

Yeah, this was a no-brainer decision for RAC, Cassel be damned.

Pestilence
01-09-2012, 02:40 PM
Any chance Emmitt Thomas would be a good DC?

ChiefsandO'sfan
01-09-2012, 02:42 PM
JACKHARRYKSHBJACK HARRY

I got the impression that Romeo has an affinity for Orton over Cassel , but won't get his choice unless they keep both QBs. Won't happen.

LOCOChief
01-09-2012, 02:42 PM
Any chance Emmitt Thomas would be a good DC?

Emmitts gotta be gettin up there in age too. I think the 3 year contract for Romeo will be used to groom some young guys at both OC and DC (I hope)

Douche Baggins
01-09-2012, 02:45 PM
"The Chiefs have an amazing, rich history"


The HUNTS have an amazing, rich history.

Fruit Ninja
01-09-2012, 02:45 PM
"The Chiefs have an amazing, rich history"

http://davincidilemma.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Hugh-Laurie.jpg

We do, historically bad one and dones in the play offs. lol Us and Detroit baby! lol

HemiEd
01-09-2012, 02:46 PM
Any chance Emmitt Thomas would be a good DC?

That would be a popular choice.

ChiefsCountry
01-09-2012, 02:52 PM
In that range yes. Mine are :24, :40 and :52. The idea being to sweep through each quarter hour with music to gain cume there and only lose it when the quarter ends... gain it again... and so forth.

However (trade secret for any other radio folks... Bob Dobbs, who probably knows) I like to start my breaks about 2 minutes before the competition. That way if my station goes to commercials and people hit the button and switch, the other station is going into commercials in a couple minutes so they hit the button again and when they come back to me I'm going back into music.... and I've got them for the next music sweep. Rinse, repeat. I just killed their cume and built mine. They're welcome.

What's your opinion on top of the hour news?

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 02:54 PM
What's your opinion on top of the hour news?

I like it better ending at the top of the hour for a music station. For a news/talk station thats the place to be.

Epic Fail 007
01-09-2012, 03:14 PM
This will be Romeos last shot to win.He will not let let Scott ruin it. Romeo will run his own ship regardless.Scott also knows if he screws up this time he will be fired. So I believe he will do things different this time. I think one of the reasons he was up haleys ass all the time is that Scott felt the need to babysit him at times.Scott never gave him freedom because he saw very quickly he could not be trusted.I know 95 percent here think Scott will not change but I think he will. Logic tells you that. Go R.A.C city baby!

oldman
01-09-2012, 03:15 PM
I like the hire. I think the way he handled the QB situation over the past 3 weeks gives me hope that RAC sees the value of having a good QB and has the willingness to do what it takes to put that guy out there.

His determination to not go down the same road he went down in Cleveland tells me he's going to make the changes we need made. Both RAC and Scott Pioli know their jobs are on the line now.

I agree. If you look back at the presser when Haley got canned, you can tell that Pioli had been in a come to Jesus meeting with Clark right before. Even Pioli's ego isn't big enough to get another GM's job if he bombs here.
Realistically, there is only 1 solid 1st round QB in the draft pool now, and that's Luck. RG3 hasn't declared. You can rant all you want about a 1st round QB, but if the talent isn't there, why reach for someone in the 1st? You can sign a FA, but what's out there? Not much. So now you've got to make a decision between Cassel and Orton. For all we know Pioli and Orton's agent are at Applebee's enjoying a 2 for $20 right now.

boogblaster
01-09-2012, 03:22 PM
Crennel canoes fo everyone ......

chiefzilla1501
01-09-2012, 03:58 PM
Well, I haven't been shy about voicing my concerns about Romeo.

Here's where I still stand. Like the hire better than if it was Jeff fisher. Not convinced they did enough due diligence outside the tree. Considering the experienced assistants on the market, I realize we don't have much to choose from.

Romeo is a phenomenal coach. I just hope that means he can become a good head coach too. I think he will need to really change his personality which is easier said than done. At the very least, I am confident our defense will be very good. And I trust that he will pick the best oc on the market and give that guy full autonomy. Still, my biggest fear is that this team plays great football next year but slowly fizzles after that. Unless Romeo can learn to be more disciplinary.

Detoxing
01-09-2012, 04:01 PM
I agree. If you look back at the presser when Haley got canned, you can tell that Pioli had been in a come to Jesus meeting with Clark right before. Even Pioli's ego isn't big enough to get another GM's job if he bombs here.
Realistically, there is only 1 solid 1st round QB in the draft pool now, and that's Luck. RG3 hasn't declared. You can rant all you want about a 1st round QB, but if the talent isn't there, why reach for someone in the 1st? You can sign a FA, but what's out there? Not much. So now you've got to make a decision between Cassel and Orton. For all we know Pioli and Orton's agent are at Applebee's enjoying a 2 for $20 right now.

Bull Shit

No one enjoys Applebee's.

BigChiefFan
01-09-2012, 04:04 PM
"The Chiefs have an amazing, rich history"

http://davincidilemma.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Hugh-Laurie.jpg

LMAO Awesome.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 04:04 PM
Bull Shit

No one enjoys Applebee's.

My daughter and I do. It's the neighborhood bar and grill man.

edit... actually we haven't been there in about 3 years.

OnTheWarpath58
01-09-2012, 04:08 PM
Just got my "we hired Romeo Crennel, buy some tickets!" email from the Chiefs.

LMAO

Chiefs Pantalones
01-09-2012, 04:10 PM
He's gonna do worse than Haley I bet. Stupid choice.

petegz28
01-09-2012, 04:11 PM
He's gonna do worse than Haley I bet. Stupid choice.

Somehow I doubt that.

OnTheWarpath58
01-09-2012, 04:15 PM
Somehow I doubt that.

Yeah, I doubt he does worse. 19 wins in 3 years?

Problem is, he probably won't do significantly better.

And the biggest problem is that the 8 wins he'll get a year will be just enough to save his and/or Pioli's job down the road.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-09-2012, 04:15 PM
Somehow I doubt that.

Did you observe Crennel in Cleveland? It gets worse than Haley.

trndobrd
01-09-2012, 04:16 PM
I agree. If you look back at the presser when Haley got canned, you can tell that Pioli had been in a come to Jesus meeting with Clark right before. Even Pioli's ego isn't big enough to get another GM's job if he bombs here.
Realistically, there is only 1 solid 1st round QB in the draft pool now, and that's Luck. RG3 hasn't declared. You can rant all you want about a 1st round QB, but if the talent isn't there, why reach for someone in the 1st? You can sign a FA, but what's out there? Not much. So now you've got to make a decision between Cassel and Orton. For all we know Pioli and Orton's agent are at Applebee's enjoying a 2 for $20 right now.


Romeo also knows this is his last HC job. Can't imagine he is going to let his career ride on Cassel's arm if he has any other option.

NJChiefsFan
01-09-2012, 04:19 PM
Did you observe Crennel in Cleveland? It gets worse than Haley.

It depends on a few decisions. If Pioli grew a set and got a decent OC and QB in here I think we would be fine.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-09-2012, 04:22 PM
It depends on a few decisions. If Pioli grew a set and got a decent OC and QB in here I think we would be fine.

Not gonna happen. In two years we'll have another house cleaning.

NJChiefsFan
01-09-2012, 04:24 PM
Not gonna happen. In two years we'll have another house cleaning.

I tend to agree. I just think this problems will be on the QB side not Crennel.

KChiefs1
01-09-2012, 04:27 PM
OC - Jim Zorn?
DC - Emmitt Thomas?

QB's - Cassel, Stanzi, RGIII

I'd be ok with this.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-09-2012, 04:28 PM
I tend to agree. I just think this problems will be on the QB side not Crennel.

Having a franchise QB fixes a lot of things. He's good enough where I could see a great QB making him look even better. But let's face it...nobody's job is safe with shit at QB. If we don't get one he's gone in 3 years like every other coach nowadays

Chiefs Pantalones
01-09-2012, 04:29 PM
OC - Jim Zorn?
DC - Emmitt Thomas?

QB's - Cassel, Stanzi, RGIII

I'd be ok with this.

Please no.

O.city
01-09-2012, 04:31 PM
The absolute shitty part about all this is that this team has been built in the best way. Build thru the draft, draft good players, keep the guys you draft around.


This is a young football team, and when healthy is pretty solid starter wise at nearly every spot.

If Romeo handles the situation properly, this team could compete for a SB in 2 or 3 years, if Pioli gives him the pieces.

bevischief
01-09-2012, 04:31 PM
I like to see the list of who they interviewed.

O.city
01-09-2012, 04:32 PM
Look at the defensive side of the ball.

We have an all pro at all three levels, if Berry comes back and is what he was. We have potentially one of the better secondaries, a young great LB core, and a young emerging dline that is one player away.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-09-2012, 04:34 PM
Look at the defensive side of the ball.

We have an all pro at all three levels, if Berry comes back and is what he was. We have potentially one of the better secondaries, a young great LB core, and a young emerging dline that is one player away.

But no QB. Thanks Pioli.

NJChiefsFan
01-09-2012, 04:35 PM
The absolute shitty part about all this is that this team has been built in the best way. Build thru the draft, draft good players, keep the guys you draft around.


This is a young football team, and when healthy is pretty solid starter wise at nearly every spot.

If Romeo handles the situation properly, this team could compete for a SB in 2 or 3 years, if Pioli gives him the pieces.

The entire building was built the right way except the foundation was made out of sand instead of cement.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 04:36 PM
Our defense is gonna be sick! Once they confirm Cassell has the teams full backing and his confidence will be back and then WATCH OUT!

NJChiefsFan
01-09-2012, 04:38 PM
Our defense is gonna be sick! Once they confirm Cassell has the teams full backing and his confidence will be back and then WATCH OUT!

How much of a life do you have that you spend your entire time pretending to be a Cassel-backer? Go find something to do.

O.city
01-09-2012, 04:38 PM
But no QB. Thanks Pioli.

He hasn't brought in the qb. Hopefully yet.

Over the three years he has been here, there really havne't been any that were drafted or free agency that would be a significant upgrade. Atleast that we had a chance to get.

He's built the team like he wanted and actually done a pretty good job. Now it's time to push the chips to the middle of the table, sit back and puff the fat cigar, while the other players sweat.

Go get a qb that can grow with the rest of this young talent.

All the things that he has messed up, in my eyes, would be forgiven if he did that.

BoneKrusher
01-09-2012, 04:38 PM
Once they confirm Cassell has the teams full backing and his confidence will be back and then WATCH OUT!

Cassel once had Confidence?

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 04:39 PM
How much of a life do you have that you spend your entire time pretending to be a Cassel-backer? Go find something to do.

Whos pretending? How much of a life do you have to talk shit about your STARTING QB FOR THE 2012 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS!!!!

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 04:41 PM
Cassel once had Confidence?

When he played under Weiss and had his HCs full support yup.

Also see: NE 2008

O.city
01-09-2012, 04:42 PM
Just put him on ignore and move on.

BoneKrusher
01-09-2012, 04:43 PM
When he played under Weiss and had his HCs full support yup.

Also see: NE 2008

you're referring to the two seasons he played the NFC West..

Pee Wee Herman could have had a winning season as the QB with those schedules.
2008 Pats and 2010 Chiefs)

bevischief
01-09-2012, 04:44 PM
Cassel once had Confidence?

In high school maybe...

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 04:44 PM
Just put him on ignore and move on.

When they know im right they just stick their heads in the sand... HAHA LOVE IT!

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 04:45 PM
you're referring to the two seasons he played the NFC West..

Pee Wee Herman could have had a winning season as the QB those schedules.
2008 Pats and 2010 Chiefs)

Oh sure now its the schedules fault, lets not actually give out any CREDIT because it make you wrong eh? HAHAHAAA

O.city
01-09-2012, 04:46 PM
So what kinda credit does Cassel get for his play in 09 or this year?

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 04:46 PM
I cant wait for 2012 to start and Cassel wins his first 4 or 5 games. What are you pussies gonna say then huh??

BoneKrusher
01-09-2012, 04:47 PM
Oh sure now its the schedules fault, lets not actually give out any CREDIT because it make you wrong eh? HAHAHAAA

you dont think its a coincidence that Cassel has two winning seasons as a starting QB in the NFL and both seasons came vs the worst division in football?

shame on you!

O.city
01-09-2012, 04:47 PM
When he loses those games, will you stop the trolling?

BoneKrusher
01-09-2012, 04:47 PM
I cant wait for 2012 to start and Cassel wins his first 4 or 5 games. What are you pussies gonna say then huh??

never happen

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 04:48 PM
I cant wait for 2012 to start and Cassel wins his first 4 or 5 games. What are you pussies gonna say then huh??

That you're still a dried chunk at the end of a tampoon, just in general.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 04:49 PM
So what kinda credit does Cassel get for his play in 09 or this year?

he turned around his first season with a PROBOWL season in '10 and this year means nothing considering nearly all his weapons were out and his coach was in the middle of a dick measuring contest with his boss. cassel was an innocent bystander.

kcpasco
01-09-2012, 04:50 PM
I cant wait for 2012 to start and Cassel wins his first 4 or 5 games. What are you pussies gonna say then huh??

You are either the internets greatest troll or the dumbest ****er alive.

BoneKrusher
01-09-2012, 04:50 PM
he turned around his first season with a PROBOWL season in '10 and this year means nothing considering nearly all his weapons were out and his coach was in the middle of a dick measuring contest with his boss. cassel was an innocent bystander.

i guess. LMAO

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 04:51 PM
That you're still a dried chunk at the end of a tampoon, just in general.

go ahead and insult me if it makes you feel better. im excited for the future of my favorite football team and your negativity aint gonna bring me down!

if you dont like it then go root for the NY football Giants, FAKE FANS@!

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 04:52 PM
cassel was an innocent bystander.

you're brand of trolling is so boring

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 04:53 PM
you're brand of trolling is so boring

keep calling me a troll i guess if your arguments hold no weight. follow the flock sheep! BAAAH! BAAAAAAH!

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 04:54 PM
go ahead and insult me if it makes you feel better. im excited for the future of my favorite football team and your negativity aint gonna bring me down!

if you dont like it then go root for the NY football Giants, FAKE FANS@!

Did I insult you? I thought I was just calling a spade a spade.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 04:55 PM
keep calling me a troll i guess if your arguments hold no weight. follow the flock sheep! BAAAH! BAAAAAAH!

You're too smart for me. I can't keep up with your obviously superior intellect.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 04:56 PM
You're too smart for me. I can't keep up with your obviously superior intellect.

thank you, now we can move on to more important matters like how much its going to take to move up and grab Kalil.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 04:59 PM
thank you, now we can move on to more important matters like how much its going to take to move up and grab Kalil.

I'm sorry that you have nothing else going on in your life other than trolling the internet. I hear the convienence store is hiring.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:01 PM
I'm sorry that you have nothing else going on in your life other than trolling the internet. I hear the convienence store is hiring.

haha i love people that talk shit about others being on the internet when they themselves have over a double amount of posts than that person. way to go genious!

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:03 PM
i have won every matt cassell argument on this board so the only defense you guys have now is to call me a troll AHAHAHAHAH WINNNING!

NJChiefsFan
01-09-2012, 05:04 PM
haha i love people that talk shit about others being on the internet when they themselves have over a double amount of posts than that person. way to go genious!

The point isn't spending time on the internet. Its spending time on a site not to actually talk about KC but to troll those fans. Thats whats sad.

Sorry for giving you enough credit to think that you are smart enough to not believe in Matt Cassel.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:05 PM
The point isn't spending time on the internet. Its spending time on a site not to actually talk about KC but to troll those fans. Thats whats sad.

Sorry for giving you enough credit to think that you are smart enough to not believe in Matt Cassel.

um, im the one SUPPORTING THE CHIEFS. by your definition everybody on this board is a troll BUT ME! hahahah

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:06 PM
beer me knows im right, thats why he has to delete his posts

O.city
01-09-2012, 05:07 PM
Define Winning?

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 05:08 PM
beer me knows im right, thats why he has to delete his posts

Nah it was too mean even for me. We all know what you are. Unimportant... hence me being finished with you.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:10 PM
Nah it was too mean even for me. We all know what you are. Unimportant... hence me being finished with you.

again, you just know im right so you do what everybody does. slam your head in the sand and hope that the chiefs will lose so you can be happy. well not me sir, i will back my team!

NJChiefsFan
01-09-2012, 05:13 PM
again, you just know im right so you do what everybody does. slam your head in the sand and hope that the chiefs will lose so you can be happy. well not me sir, i will back my team!

If you think everyone here is not backing their team because they want a real QB than you are the idiot, not to mention the reason why the Hunt's have been able to pass off the past 20 years as a success.

You are a good example of a simple, blind, Chiefs fan that eats up what the oranization serves. There is a reason KC media is the worst sports media in the country. It doesn't have to work hard since people like you are its readers.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:15 PM
If you think everyone here is not backing their team because they want a real QB than you are the idiot, not to mention the reason why the Hunt's have been able to pass off the past 20 years as a success.

love it or leave it pal. good times and bad times.

once when we're on the podium holding up that lombardi trophy you cant back though. sorry.

Tribal Warfare
01-09-2012, 05:17 PM
well, after next year Pioli is gone if everything stays at the status quo concerning the QB position. Cassel will shit himself once again, or will get injured for extended period because of a big hit that would be self inflicted due to holding the ball too long.

NJChiefsFan
01-09-2012, 05:17 PM
love it or leave it pal. good times and bad times.

once when we're on the podium holding up that lombardi trophy you cant back though. sorry.

Doesn't work that way. Love it or leave it is a reference to staying loyal, not being a zombie follower. Thats the same stupid arguement about country. You can be critical of your county and still love it. There is a reason I follow the Chiefs 24/7 365 even when I think they are making mistakes.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 05:19 PM
again, you just know im right so you do what everybody does. slam your head in the sand and hope that the chiefs will lose so you can be happy. well not me sir, i will back my team!

The mistake you make here darling is thinking I give a shit really how the football season goes. I'd rather the Chiefs win but if they don't I don't really care. I'm a baseball fan. So keep backing your team and if they win we'll be on the same page. If not, only you will care.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:19 PM
Doesn't work that way. Love it or leave it is a reference to staying loyal, not being a zombie follower. Thats the same stupid arguement about country. You can be critical of your county and still love it. There is a reason I follow the Chiefs 24/7 365 even when I think they are making mistakes.

theyre not making any mistakes though. youre just being a sheep and not thinking for yourself

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:21 PM
The mistake you make here darling is thinking I give a shit really how the football season goes. I'd rather the Chiefs win but if they don't I don't really care. I'm a baseball fan. So keep backing your team and if they win we'll be on the same page. If not, only you will care.

wow, some guy who doesnt give a shit about the chiefs, says specifically "i dont really care" and then gets all butt hurt when here ON A CHIEFS BOARD somebody actually tries and supports his favorite team. wow.

kcpasco
01-09-2012, 05:22 PM
theyre not making any mistakes though. youre just being a sheep and not thinking for yourself

You are right man, the Chiefs don't make mistakes. Hiring Tod Haley and then firing him mid-season in his 3rd year was just part of the plan.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:22 PM
haha and IM the troll haha

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:23 PM
You are right man, the Chiefs don't make mistakes. Hiring Tod Haley and then firing him mid-season in his 3rd year was just part of the plan.

its called a rebuilding process. they did improve after he left am i wrong?

O.city
01-09-2012, 05:24 PM
theyre not making any mistakes though. youre just being a sheep and not thinking for yourself

You are losing your touch man.


Cassel has led the league in sacks while in NE, playing that shitty NFC W, done it again here in KC.

In his pro bowl season, which he was an alternate btw, he had the top overall rushing game in the NFL and a record setting rb, yet still led the 30 passing attack in the league.

Of his 27 td passes, 24 of them were 10 yards or less. He is consistently rated a the bottom of the league in every stat.

He ranks as one of the worst deep passers in the league and did the year in NE when he had possibly the best deep threat in the history of the game.

It just gets tougher and tougher not to like the guy right?

dirk digler
01-09-2012, 05:24 PM
Awesome job Clark and Scott. Way to once again embarrass this city and the proud fans of the KC Chiefs. Keep the good work to 8-8 every year I know it will be a challenge.

O.city
01-09-2012, 05:25 PM
its called a rebuilding process. they did improve after he left am i wrong?

No they did improve.

They did also improve after your beloved saint got hurt. HMMMMMMMM

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 05:27 PM
wow, some guy who doesnt give a shit about the chiefs, says specifically "i dont really care" and then gets all butt hurt when here ON A CHIEFS BOARD somebody actually tries and supports his favorite team. wow.

LMAO

You're priceless. I don't care who you support.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:27 PM
You are losing your touch man.


Cassel has led the league in sacks while in NE, playing that shitty NFC W, done it again here in KC.

In his pro bowl season, which he was an alternate btw, he had the top overall rushing game in the NFL and a record setting rb, yet still led the 30 passing attack in the league.

Of his 27 td passes, 24 of them were 10 yards or less. He is consistently rated a the bottom of the league in every stat.

He ranks as one of the worst deep passers in the league and did the year in NE when he had possibly the best deep threat in the history of the game.

It just gets tougher and tougher not to like the guy right?

stats dont tell the whole story. the guy is a LEADER and a WARRIOR. oh and hes a winner too.

why dont you bring up stats about tebow, it doesnt matter the dude is a LEADER and a WINNER. tebow and cassel are both awesome

O.city
01-09-2012, 05:28 PM
Cassel is a winner? He's won 19 games in 3 years here?

And he's a warrior? How many times has he been hurt here?

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-09-2012, 05:30 PM
LAqueeffan is the most uninspiring troll I've ever seen... and that's saying a lot.

Onto other threads.

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:32 PM
not counting this clusterffuck season, which obviously was stacked against him from the beginning he has a 24 and 21 record and thats with three different OCs

L.A. Chieffan
01-09-2012, 05:40 PM
LAqueeffan is the most uninspiring troll I've ever seen... and that's saying a lot.

Onto other threads.

i love it how when people talk shit to me they change my name from chief to queef. HAHA if youre a chiefs fan youre just making fun of yourself dumbass!
oh wait, queer me already admitted that he wasnt a chiefs fan

htismaqe
01-09-2012, 05:44 PM
stats dont tell the whole story. the guy is a LEADER and a WARRIOR. oh and hes a winner too.

why dont you bring up stats about tebow, it doesnt matter the dude is a LEADER and a WINNER. tebow and cassel are both awesome

ROFL

Pestilence
01-09-2012, 05:46 PM
He's got a job and he does it.

BCD
01-09-2012, 05:54 PM
LMAO LAChieffan is our own Knowmo