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whoman69
01-12-2012, 12:51 PM
This will be a repeating feature. We will take each position in turn. For each position we will look at the players we already have on the roster and whether those player should be retained, resigned, traded, or cut. We will also discuss whether we need help in the draft, trades or free agency. The next position is an area with a lot of questions, RUNNING BACK.

Currently on roster and cap hit if signed next year:

Jamaal Charles under contract cap hit $4.25 million
Thomas Jones UFA
Dexter McCluster under contract cap hit just over $1 million
Jackie Battle FA
Leron McClain UFA
Shaun Draughn unknown

Barret
01-12-2012, 01:36 PM
No one is 100% with Charles health and there is some REALLY dead wood as far as RB's go on this roster.

Pay Charles and see how he does in spring training.
Cut Jones
Cut McCluster
Let Battle test Free Agency but give him semi-generous offer to see if he will stay
Resign Leron McClain. as a FB he still can block well and he can take McCluster's carries
WTF is Shaun Draughn?? training camp fodder or practice squad him if that is possible.

If we can't move down for a BPA or move up for a QB then take in the draft Trent Richardson.

So your main back is Charles if he is Healthy or 90%
Secondary back is Richardson who is taking Jones / McCluster carries.
Battle might be back and he is a breather / garbage time / backup if someone goes down back
McClain is your FB for Blocking and possible 3rd down back.

On 3rd and short which the Chiefs have been having issues, Put Richardson as your RB and McLain as your FB and with a decent OC you should be able to get the first down with those two in the game.

whoman69
01-12-2012, 05:30 PM
IMO McCluster has earned his pay since Cassel has been out of the line-up. Cassel laid him out to dry with the expected check down. For the cap # we can't really complain. Battle won't have much of a cap # either unless another team makes a run for him as a starter. At a minimum he should provide a good alternative to Charles, certainly more than Jones was last year. Jones is dead man walking. I'd rather see better value out of a first that high than a running back. These days they don't outlast their first contract often.

Brock
01-12-2012, 05:42 PM
There's nothing to discuss on Thomas Jones.

Fritz88
01-12-2012, 05:47 PM
I'd get Manning.
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O.city
01-12-2012, 05:49 PM
Keep Charles, McCluster, McClainn if he comes cheap.

Draft Richardson in the first if you want. Or a rb somewhere in the draft.

Bane
01-12-2012, 05:55 PM
6.

BoneKrusher
01-12-2012, 05:57 PM
There's nothing to discuss on Thomas Jones.

This^
waste of roster space.

O.city
01-12-2012, 06:01 PM
BTW whoman, I really like these GM things.

ChiefsCountry
01-12-2012, 06:55 PM
I would make a free agent move on BenJarveus Green-Ellis.

whoman69
01-12-2012, 07:53 PM
BTW whoman, I really like these GM things.

Thanks, thought it would get more discussion. Guess this position is pretty cut and dried. We all hope Charles will be back to form. I think everyone realizes he needs to split carries to a certain extent. The question becomes do you get value from a first round running back these days?

Deberg_1990
01-12-2012, 08:10 PM
Cut McCluster? ROFL

jd1020
01-12-2012, 09:43 PM
Cut McCluster? ROFL

850 all purpose yards from a part time player just isn't worth keeping around. :banghead:

We should keep Battle though. Even though he only had 2 decent games this year and we are likely going to draft someone to do his job.

morphius
01-12-2012, 09:59 PM
I was disappointed in McClain, didn't see much reason to bring him back.

I'd be very disappointed if Jones was even invited to camp for anything other than as a workout and conditioning coach.

Last off season I wanted Battle cut, he was terrible in preseason. He played well enough I'd be okay with him coming back as our 3rd RB.

McCluster, well, if we have an OC that isn't afraid to use him then sure, if we are going to use him like Haley and just throw quick WR screens, then why bother.

Sadly that leads us with someone to split carries with Charles, and needing a FB as well.

BossChief
01-12-2012, 10:21 PM
850 all purpose yards from a part time player just isn't worth keeping around. :banghead:

We should keep Battle though. Even though he only had 2 decent games this year and we are likely going to draft someone to do his job.

DMC had around 1300 all purpose yards.

850 or so were from scrimmage.

Know your terminology.

jd1020
01-12-2012, 10:23 PM
DMC had around 1300 all purpose yards.

850 or so were from scrimmage.

Know your terminology.

My bad. I should have taken into account the people who look at return yards.

KR yards are cheap yards. He averaged 22.3 yards on KRs. If he doesn't return the ball at all we start at the 20. So he gained us an extra 2.3 yards 25 times. He averaged 10.8 yards on PRs on 6 attempts. So he effectively gained 122.3 yards we wouldn't have already had.

Frankie
01-12-2012, 10:26 PM
No one is 100% with Charles health and there is some REALLY dead wood as far as RB's go on this roster.

Pay Charles and see how he does in spring training.
Cut Jones
Cut McClusterI stopped reading this post right here. This is exactly why, as disappointed as I am with Pioli, I'm glad the fans are not given the reigns for a day.

Frankie
01-12-2012, 10:29 PM
Keep Charles, McCluster, McClainn if he comes cheap.

Draft Richardson in the first if you want. Or a rb somewhere in the draft.

The only way I would even consider Richardson at 11 or 12 is as bait for a profitable trade down.

Barret
01-12-2012, 11:39 PM
Hmmm...I see where everyone is talking about my mistake on McCluster.

I will concede the mistake but I would need an explanation.

Were the issues with McCluster all part of Cassel being in there or Issues with the Offensive Coordinator putting in bad plays. (whomever the OC was since heck we don't really know who was calling plays)

I think the issue with me is that I have not evolved from the old school thinking of power run game. I didn't see where McCluster fit. That is why I went the direction I did and would probably pick up some O-line help in either Free Agency or the draft in the second round or whenever.

I guess it is all a moot point if they trot Cassel out there again.

Pestilence
01-12-2012, 11:47 PM
I was disappointed in McClain, didn't see much reason to bring him back.

I'd be very disappointed if Jones was even invited to camp for anything other than as a workout and conditioning coach.

Last off season I wanted Battle cut, he was terrible in preseason. He played well enough I'd be okay with him coming back as our 3rd RB.

McCluster, well, if we have an OC that isn't afraid to use him then sure, if we are going to use him like Haley and just throw quick WR screens, then why bother.

Sadly that leads us with someone to split carries with Charles, and needing a FB as well.

You saw how McClain could be used when Orton was in the game.

Pestilence
01-12-2012, 11:48 PM
Bring back McClain on a 1-2 year deal.
Let Jones go.
Draft a RB.

Charles, McCluster, Rookie, McClain

Fritz88
01-13-2012, 06:01 AM
You saw how McClain could be used when Orton was in the game.

McClain was still shit with Orton. He was better but shit nevertheless. Missing blocks. Getting owned. Dropping balls.
I am fine with keeping him though. He has potential and is young.
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spanky 52
01-13-2012, 06:29 AM
Sign Snelling from Atlanta in FA. Bring Battle back at a minimum. Cut McClain. Draft a rb in the late rounds and pick up another UDFA.

Rausch
01-13-2012, 07:13 AM
Bring back McClain on a 1-2 year deal.
Let Jones go.
Draft a RB (round 4 or later.)

Charles, McCluster, Rookie, McClain

This...

Frankie
01-13-2012, 11:54 AM
McClain was still shit with Orton. He was better but shit nevertheless. Missing blocks. Getting owned. Dropping balls.
Posted via Mobile DeviceMy take exactly.

Sign Snelling from Atlanta in FA. Bring Battle back at a minimum. Cut McClain. Draft a rb in the late rounds and pick up another UDFA.This.