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Chiefnj2
01-17-2012, 07:31 AM
http://www.gbnreport.com/shrinereport.html

I think they will post daily practice reports from the Shrine Game. Monday's practice is up.

DaKCMan AP
01-17-2012, 07:54 AM
Speaking of Tennessee, it wasn’t surprising to see the burst and quickness exhibited by former Vols’ RB Tauren Pole. I have always felt that much of his lack of stardom at Tennessee had to do with health and head issues not lack of talent. Today, he was incredibly fast through creases created by the offensive line and showed that extra gear to pull away from people in space.

Tauren Poole is a guy who I would love to take a flyer on late. He's an Arian Foster type, IMO, but runs with a lower center of gravity.

FTR, I wanted the Chiefs to nab Foster as an UDFA in 2009.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5716013&postcount=5074

Chiefnj2
01-17-2012, 08:31 AM
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Pestilence
01-17-2012, 10:51 AM
Practice Reports from Walterfootball.com 1/17

2012 East-West Shrine Game: Monday's West Team Practice Report

By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

The West team took to the practice field in St. Petersburg, Fla. on Monday afternoon. They are coached by former Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress, and a number of other experienced coaches worked with the prospects. Unlike the East team, the West squad immediately put on the pads and had a full-contact practice much to the liking of the scouts in attendance. The team definitely has more talent than the East.

That discrepancy could be seen along the offensive line. While the East only had three linemen stand out, the West had a solid unit overall. The West's line was watched closely during the individual portion of practice by a lot of the top decision-makers in attendance. Titans vice president of player personnel Ruston Webster, Lions head coach Jim Schwartz, Bucs director of player personnel Dennis Hickey and many other scouts were focused on the West's line.

One of the best players on the West's powerful front five in this practice was Colorado guard Ryan Miller. The 6-foot-6, 326-pounder is put together well. He is strong and carries his weight extremely well. Miller showed good technique with knee bend and leverage. In speaking to some of the scouts present, they really wanted to see Miller spend his practice time at right tackle. He played the position previously for the Buffaloes, but mainly was at right guard.

In the one-on-ones, Miller had a mixed outing. At guard, he quickly shoved USC defensive tackle DaJohn Harris to the ground. Scouts got some of what they wanted when Miller took some reps at right tackle. One play was ugly when he was beat by Boise State's Tyrone Crawford on a speed rush that started to the outside before cutting to the interior. Miller also allowed a pass pressure on a swim move. Overall though, he had a quality start to the week and received a lot of attention from scouts after practice. With a good week, Miller could make an argument to be a second-rounder in April.

BYU offensive tackle Matt Reynolds (6-4, 310) was smaller than expected. He had a mixed practice and should probably move inside to guard. His body shape just falls short of tackles in terms of height and arm length. Mississippi defensive end Kentrell Lockett (6-5, 243) beat him in a one-on-one, as Reynolds lost his feet and fell to the ground. In the coming days, he needs to play better.

An interesting player for the West squad is Arkansas wide receiver Greg Childs. He looks the part of a NFL receiver at 6-foot-3 and a chiseled 215 pounds. A knee injury from the 2010 season carried over into 2011, and Childs didn't play the same, but he was coming around at the end of this season. In his first Shrine Game practice, Childs ran well, but his routes were a little sloppy with some extra steps in and out of his breaks. He could be a boom-or-bust pick for the mid-rounds. Childs and Michigan wide receiver Junior Hemingway had bad drops on passes downfield.

A defensive prospect who stood out was TCU linebacker Tank Carder. In the nine-on-nine scrimmage, he started strong by popping the back for a good tackle near the line of scrimmage. A play later, Carder fired through the line to bust a run at the line for a slight tackle for a loss. He did a quality job of taking on blocks and shedding offensive linemen. Carder came close to an interception on the team scrimmage, but the ball flew just past his hands. A tough linebacker, the 6-foot- 2, 236-pounder plays bigger than his listed measurements. Carder could surprise some observers on Draft Day and in the NFL.

West Virginia cornerback Keith Tandy had a strong start to the week. He had a nice diving pass break up during the team scrimmage. Overall, Tandy had tight coverage. One aspect that stands out about him is his ability to flip his hips and run with receivers. Tandy (5-10, 202) is put together well, but he might be best as a nickel who specializes with slot receivers.

Texas safety Blake Gideon had a number of missed opportunities on Monday. He used some instincts to get in position to make some plays, but didn't finish them. A potential interception was deflected to Gideon, but he couldn't get a handle on the ball. A second potential pick bounced off his chest. It will be important for Gideon to come through with some splash plays the rest of the week, or his stock could fall dramatically.

The receiver who had the most impressive practice for the West was Boise State's Tyler Shoemaker. He burned a number of corners, and raced by Gideon on a deep post. After practice, Shoemaker had a number of scouts waiting to talk to him.

There are two good slot receiver prospects on the West team. Arkansas' Jarius Wright and Fresno State's Devon Wylie both showed quickness with strong route-running in this practice. Wylie (5-9, 186) had a fantastic catch on a deep ball that fell in over the top of the cornerback. It was a smart move for Wylie to put his hands up late to prevent a break up. He is a quick receiver, but is extremely undersized. Wright (5-9, 176) is even more undersized, but is very polished.

The West team overall has more talent than the East, but the quarterback position is not any stronger. Northwestern quarterback Dan Persa (5-11, 212) is very undersized and his arm looks too weak for the NFL. Northern Illinois signal-caller Chandler Harnish (6-1, 219) is bigger, but his arm also looks too feeble for the next level. In seven-on-sevens, Harnish fumbled the ball during a scrimmage session without a line or pass rush in front of him. Colorado quarterback Tyler Hansen didn't impress either.

There are some other prospects worth mentioning based on their Monday performances. Undersized Iowa offensive tackle Markus Zusevics (6-4, 296) had a good practice. He could be a quality developmental type. Northwestern guard Al Netter (6-4, 316) was run over on a few plays and needs to improves on his ability to anchor. Miami University of Ohio guard Brandon Brooks had an impressive day, as did Oregon tight end David Paulson.



Here is a rundown of some of the post-practice interviews between the player and a team that was spending some time talking to the prospect:

Kansas City - Wisconsin safety Aaron Henry, Oregon State corner Brandon Hardin

San Diego - Oregon tight end David Paulson

Philadelphia - University of Missouri-Columbia defensive linemen Dominique Hamilton

Tennessee - Colorado guard Ryan Miller, TCU linebacker Tank Carder

Indianapolis - Boise State wide receiver Tyler Shoemaker

New Orleans - Michigan tight end Kevin Koger

Miami - Fresno State wide receiver Devon Wylie

Arizona - Rutgers defensive end Justin Francis

Washington - SMU guard Josh LeRibeus

Baltimore - West Virginia cornerback Keith Tandy, Shoemaker, Nevada linebacker

Brandon Marshall, Boise State defensive end Tyrone Crawford, Miami of Ohio guard Brandon Brooks and Colorado guard Ryan Miller.

2012 East-West Shrine Game: Monday's East Team Practice Report

By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

The East team took to the practice field in St. Petersburg, Fla. on Monday afternoon. The East team is coached by former Detroit Lions and San Diego Chargers head coach Bobby Ross. A number of other experienced coaches worked with the prospects. Overall, the East team did not have the talent of the West squad, but there were some players who started the week strong. The East squad did not wear pads on Monday, while the West team was padded up.

Ole Miss offensive tackle Bradley Sowell (6-6, 316) and Rutgers guard Desmond Wynn (6-5, 305) had the best bodies for the NFL among the linemen. The coaching staff played Sowell at right tackle after he was the starter at left tackle the past few years for Ole Miss. Wynn did well in the one-on-one session and in the team scrimmage. He combines some quality strength and athleticism.

Sowell had some losses and some impressive wins in the one-on-ones with defensive linemen. In one rep, Sowell rocked Virginia defensive end Matt Conrath to his knees and finished the play by blasting him flat on the ground. An ugly play for Sowell came when West Virginia defensive end Julian Miller raced by him on a speed rush. Sowell came back to push Miller into the turf on a sprint around the edge.

Miller was one of the most impressive defensive ends in the East practice, but he had a disappointing weigh in. At West Virginia, Miller (6-3) was listed in the 260s but he weighed in at 256. Considering he was that light, it makes no sense that West Virginia was playing him inside at defensive tackle in 2011. Miller has some speed off the edge that put the East offensive tackles on their heels. With his position flexibility and at his current measurements, Miller could interest teams as a 3-4 linebacker.

Two defensive tackles stood out with good practices. South Carolina defensive tackle Travian Robertson destroyed a lot of the interior linemen in the one-on-one reps. It made one wonder where was that speed and pass rushing during the 2011 season. Robertson did well against Mississippi State center Quinton Saulsberry with a speed and rip rush up the middle. Saulsberry had a disappointing practice.

The other defensive tackle that had a superb day was Baylor's Nick Jean-Baptiste. In the NFL, Jean-Baptiste (6-1, 335) could be a nose tackle in a 3-4 defense. He is a heavy load with some quickness. All of the offensive linemen struggled with Jean-Baptiste. He whipped South Florida offensive tackle Jeremiah Warren. Jean-Baptiste has a sloppy body though. He needs to make strides in redistributing some fat into muscle. Still, he cold be a quality nose tackle in a 3-4 or 4-3 defense in the NFL. Warren had a rough practice and was beat regularly.

The small-school standout of the East practice was guard Rishaw Johnson from California University of Pennsylvania. The 6-foot-3, 309-pounder carries his weight well, but he really stood out with his blocking. Johnson is a fighter who plays with a mean streak. He gives great effort and plays with passion. He has some quick feet and scraps with linemen. Johnson could use some more power, however. Going against the better competition he definitely held his own. There was a play or two or where he was beat, but he had a lot of wins. If Johnson can finish out the week strong, he would be a good sleeper guard for the mid-rounds.

The quarterbacks and wide receivers had an eventful practice, and there were some players that definitely hurt their draft stock. Among them was Miami wide receiver LaRon Byrd. He had at least four dropped passes, and was really struggling. Miami tight end Chase Ford had a rough practice with multiple false starts that got him yelled at by the coaches. He made a tough catch down the seam in the team scrimmage, but may have fumbled the ball as he went to the ground.

The two most impressive receivers was Illinois' A.J. Jenkins and Tennessee Tech's Tim Benford. Jenkins was polished in his route-running, had good hands and showed more speed than the other wideouts. Many of the passes were off the mark and Jenkins (6-0, 192) made some nice adjustments to inaccurate passes. Benford is a speedster who was stretching the field and burning through cushions. Benford also made some quality hands catches. Benford (5-11, 193) had a lot of scouts approach him after practice, and according to sources, he has really impressed the Carolina Panthers.

Michigan State wide receiver B.J. Cunningham is well coached and looks polished, but he had a bad dropped pass on a slant. In the team scrimmage, Cunningham bobbled a pass and it was snatched out of the air by Merrimack College linebacker Shawn Loiseau. The 6-foot-1, 209-pound Cunningham does not get much separation from defensive backs, so if he doesn't catch a pass cleanly the defense is in position to take advantage.

Of the East quarterbacks, Sourthern Miss produce Austin Davis looks like the best prospect. He can throw accurate passes with some arm strength. Florida quarterback John Brantley (6-2, 219) has a good arm and mechanics, but he is thin. At the next level, Brantley could have injury issues and may be brittle. Tennessee-Chattanooga signal caller B.J. Coleman looks the part at 6-foot-3, 234 pounds. He may not have the arm strength, as his deep outs floated and fell short of the target at times. Coleman needs to improve his accuracy as well. Davis looks like a mid-rounder while the other two are late picks or undrafted free agents.

Temple tight end Evan Rodriguez was one another standout from the East. He made a nice acrobatic catch down the middle. He made another good reception beating Penn State's Nick Sukay going toward the sideline on an out. Rodriguez (6-1, 242) looks and plays bigger. He is a sleeper prospect who impressed a number of observers on Monday.

There were a few other notables from the East squad. South Florida safety Jerrell Young had a strong first showing. Tennessee running back Tauren Poole (5-9, 206) looks smaller than his listed measurements. Sukay has been moved from his collegiate position of linebacker to safety.



Here is a run down of some of the post-practice interviews between the player and team that was spending some time talking to the prospect:

Denver - West Virginia linebacker Najee Goode

Tampa Bay - Tennessee Tech wide receiver Tim Benford and Duke safety Matt Daniels

Arizona - Columbia offensive tackle Jeff Adams

Baltimore - Temple guard Derek Dennis, Southern Miss quarterback Austin Davis, Adams

Houston - Benford, Coastal Carolina defensive back Josh Norman

San Francisco - Benford

Direckshun
01-17-2012, 11:55 AM
NJB is quickly becoming an intriguing midrounder.

Dante84
01-17-2012, 05:04 PM
Kansas City - Wisconsin safety Aaron Henry, Oregon State corner Brandon Hardin

Thanks! I updated the "Met With" thread

htismaqe
01-17-2012, 05:21 PM
Thanks! I updated the "Met With" thread

Aaron Henry is a solid prospect. Not sure how high of a ceiling he has but he has a pretty high floor I think.

Pestilence
01-17-2012, 05:24 PM
Another update

2012 East-West Shrine Game: Tuesday's East Team Practice Report

By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

The East team started off the second day of the East-West Shrine Game with a morning practice in St. Petersburg, Fla. For the first time this week, the East squad wore pads and had full hitting. Players were not tackling ball carriers to the ground, as instructed. On a stop, the defender would wrap and hug the ball carrier before letting go. This practicing technique is done to prevent injuries.

To get the practice started, the East worked in its individual position groups. Overall, the wide receivers had a bad case of the drops on Tuesday. One receiver who struggled in particular was The Citadel's Kevin Hardy. He had a dropped pass and struggled with the technique of keeping his eyes up while running routes. His inclination is to look at the ground and that hurts him for seeing how quickly the ball is coming towards him. Another receiver who had problems catching the ball was California University of Pennsylvania product Thomas Mayo. After multiple drops, he was dispirited and took his helmet off in frustration. That earned Mayo some yelling from the coaching staff.

Michigan State wide receiver B.J. Cunningham, Illinois wide receiver A.J. Jenkins and Temple tight end Evan Rodriguez all dropped passes. Cunningham's came on a deep bomb in one-on-ones after he got a step on the cornerback. Jenkins' drop was after he stumbled, and throughout the practice, Jenkins had some problems maintaining his footing. He did have a nice gain after beating USF safety Jerrell Young on a slant route.

Miami tight end Chase Ford (6-6, 258) had a good practice on Tuesday after looking bad the day before. He made a nice catch in one-on-ones over the head of Duke safety Matt Daniels. In the team scrimmage, Ford caught a deflected pass for a good gain. University of Miami has been a factory for good tight ends, and he is more athletic than one might think. If Ford finishes the week strong, he could be a quality sleeper prospect for the third day of the 2012 NFL Draft.

One of the early stars of the East-West Shrine has been Coastal Carolina cornerback Josh Norman. He had a dominant practice on Tuesday. In tight coverage, Norman made a twisting acrobatic interception of Tennessee Chattanooga quarterback B.J. Coleman. Norman is physical with and some nice hits. The 6-foot, 203-pounder has good size to go along with athleticism. He is really helping himself thus far, and is making the case to be a mid-round pick.

With the pads on, it was a great opportunity to see the battle in the trenches between the defensive and offensive lines. They showcased their abilities in a nine-on-nine run scrimmage session, a one-on-one pass rushing scrimmage, and a full 11-on-11 team period to end the practice. Generally, the defensive line got the better of the matchups.

South Carolina defensive tackle Travian Robertson had his second straight strong practice. On one play, he swallowed a back at the line of scrimmage after not budging in an inch. Robertson beat Mississippi State center Quentin Saulsberry repeatedly in the scrimmages and in a one-on-one. He wasn't the only one, as Robertson had an impressive rush with a rip move to defeat Temple guard Desmond Wynn. Robertson is helping himself, although he got shouted at for getting overly aggressive and putting a nice tackle on a running back in the team scrimmage. However, some coaches will like seeing that.

Saulsberry has really struggled this week. For the next level, he will need to add some more power as the 6-foot-2, 302-pounder has gotten pushed around. Saulsberry lost reps to Miami's Micanor Regis and Baylor's Nick Jean-Baptiste. Wynn didn't perform as well on Tuesday as he did in the first day, but he had some nice plays. In the run scrimmage, Wynn sprung a back by getting to the second level to block a linebacker. In the one-on-ones, he had a nice win against Regis and did well at a rep at left tackle. Saulsberry has been a disappointment up to now, while Wynn has played well.

Jean-Baptiste may be the most impressive defensive lineman thus far. He dominated the one-on-ones and was a tough load at the line in the run and team scrimmage. The massive Jean-Baptiste (6-1, 335) powered his way through Miami center Tyler Horn on a few reps. He also had wins against Saulsberry and guard Rishaw Johnson. The only rush Jean-Baptiste lost was when he rushed from defensive end against offensive tackle Jeremiah Warren. Jean-Baptiste has natural pad level. He gets under the pads of linemen and uses his heavy weight and size to bull rush into the backfield. Jean-Baptiste should get a real boost this week and have an appeal to 3-4 teams looking for a nose tackle.

Two offensive tackles did well. South Florida's Warren played much better on Tuesday after a bad day on Monday. Warren beat Robertson in a one-on-one play. Ole Miss offensive tackle Bradley Sowell had a quality showing. He had some wins in one-on-ones and combined with Wynn and Johnson to open up a big running lane in the team scrimmage. The coaches have flipped Sowell from left and right tackle. He could be a backup swing tackle on game days, but as a permanent player in an NFL lineup, Sowell should probably be a right tackle.

West Virgnia defensive end Julian Miller had a strong practice. He had a few good stuffs in run support. On one of them, Miller held his ground against a pulling guard and shed the block to make the tackle. In the one-on-ones, he beat left tackle Joe Long from Wayne State on a nice spin move.

There were some other brief notables from the Tuesday practice. None of the quarterbacks really stood out, and Southern Miss Austin Davis is the best of the bunch. Coleman has to improve his footwork and accuracy. He threw one easy screen pass into the dirt unintentionally. Brantley threw an interception to Penn State's Nick Sukay on a poorly underthrown deep ball that dropped short of Rodriguez and fell into Sukay.

Pittsburgh defensive end turned outside linebacker Brandon Lindsey has been fairly quiet this week. Lindsey (6-1, 255) had a dropped interception in a pass in the flat during the team scrimmage. Canadian product Akiem Hicks played better on Tuesday with a win against Saulsberry in the one-on-ones, but also had a loss against Sowell. The small-school product Rishaw Johnson did not play as well on day two, but still won some of his blocks.

Here is a run down of some of the post-practice interviews between the player and a team that was spending some time talking to the prospect:

Jacksonville - Coastal Carolina cornerback Josh Norman

Arizona - University of Regina defensive tackle Akiem Hicks

Houston - Tennessee Tech wide receiver Tim Benford (second day of interviews)

San Francisco - Virginia defensive end Matt Conrath

New York Giants - Miami wide receiver LaRon Byrd

New York Jets - California University of Pennsylvania guard Rishaw Johnson and Columbia offensive tackle Jeff Adams

New Orleans - Rutgers guard Desmond Wynn

Kansas City - University of Regina defensive tackle Akiem Hicks and Rutgers guard Desmond Wynn

San Diego - Temple tight end Evan Rodriguez

Indianapolis - Florida Atlantic running back Alfred Morris and Presbyterian cornerback Justin Bethel

Philadelphia - California University of Pennsylvania wide receiver Thomas Mayo

Buffalo - Notre Dame cornerback R.J. Blanton

Minnesota - Miami defensive end Micanor Regis

Baltimore - South Florida offensive tackle Jeremiah Warren, Columbia offensive tackle Jeff Adams and Florida quarterback John Brantley

Chiefnj2
01-17-2012, 06:18 PM
Notes from Paul's Pigskin Place
When all was said and done I thought the best player on the field this morning was Miami DT Micaner Regis. He measured in yesterday at 6-3, 309 and played with a solid combination of speed and power. Regis stays low and uses his arms and hands well to fend off blockers. He also has displayed a non-stop motor for the first two days. He sometimes losses track of the ball on running plays because he is so intent on his pass rush, but the coaches seemed very pleased with his work.

Under the category coming out of nowhere to getting some serious attention from pro scouts add the name TE Chase Ford of Miami. Indeed, when I saw his name on the roster Monday I wrote him off only as a body needed in the TE numbers game. But Ford was exceptional today in getting open and making all the catches, while he also showed some run after the catch ability. Ford does look skinny at first blush, but he actually has decent size 6-6, 258. Ford is not going to be the next Jimmy Graham, but personnel people around the NFL will definitely be looking at some tape of him after this day when they get back home.

None of the QBs really impressed today during the scrimmage segment of practice, but some of that was because secondary coverage was very solid and the wideouts were frankly not open very much. The scary part is that none of the QBs looked particularly adept at escaping the pocket to scramble. The does not bode well for getting a lot of points on the scoreboard come Saturday.

I was also really impressed with the athleticism and toughness of Georgia TE Bruce Figgins. Figgins is a sculpted 6-3, 272, but still looks trim in pads. He blocks well and, though raw, seems to have decent hands. I think some team will love the fact that he can probably be used as a FB/TE/HB, as well as a good special teamer. That likely doesn't make him a high draft pick, but I think he'll get a call early on the third day of the draft, perhaps as early as the 5th round.

Another relatively lightly regarded prospect who made some big plays in the secondary, including almost notching an interception and putting a couple of big licks on WRs was Duke safety Matt Daniels. Again Daniels stock is helped by his measurables as he measured in at a solid 6-0, 215. Plus, he moves better than I expected and seems to relish contact. Given that this year’s draft class at the position is less than stellar, Daniels has a chance to really help himself over the remainder of this week.

On the other hand, it was a tough day for California (PA) OG Rishaw Johnson. The small school kid was kicked out of the offensive line rotation twice for false starts, during drills no less. Johnson did have a couple of decent moments in pass-pro drills, but also got beaten soundly just as often as not. The step up in competition is obviously hard on him, and he appears to be trying too hard to get everything right. Unfortunately, I hear much more yelling than I see coaching at times and I am not sure if he will rally himself somehow or just give up. He has NFL size and talent, but so far looks far from ready to contribute at the next level. He's slipping into late round land and may have a lot to prove come the combine.

One offensive lineman who intrigues me is Rutgers OG Desmond Wynn and it seems to me that the coaches feel the same way as he appears to get plenty of encouragement and instruction. At 6-5, 305, with that well toned athletic frame, I sense that a lot of people think that Wynn is a potential late bloomer who could really turn into quite a football player with some work and patience.

Pestilence
01-18-2012, 09:30 AM
Another Update

2012 East-West Shrine Game: Tuesday's West Team Practice Report

By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

The West squad held its second practice of the East-West Shrine Bowl on Tuesday afternoon in St. Petersburg, Fla. The players were wearing pads and hitting throughout the session. Players were not tackling ball carriers to the ground, as instructed. On a stop, the defender would wrap and hug the ball carrier before letting go. This practicing technique is used to prevent injuries.

After warming up, the players worked in their individual position groups. The defensive backs on the West squad have some talent. Two standouts among them are West Virginia cornerback Keith Tandy and Iowa cornerback Shaun Prater. During the early session, both of them showed impressive hip fluidity as they turned and broke on deep passes. Both corners are also physical with receivers. They did an overall good job of running with receivers and not allowing separation.

Tandy almost had a two-pick practice. In seven-on-sevens, he jumped a route and undercut the receiver on a quick out. The pass got on Tandy quickly as he darted in front, but the ball bounced off his pads. In the 11-on-11 scrimmage session, Tandy again came close to an interception when he undercut a route. Tandy just missed the ball but disrupted the receiver enough to force an incompletion. Tandy was clearly disappointed he didn't come away with a turnover, but he showed quality coverage and the ability to get in position for some turnovers.

There were a lot of one-on-one sessions spread out around the field in this practice. The linebackers and running backs went against each other in pass routes out of the backfield. USC running back Marc Tyler showed some nice routes. He burned a linebacker, but also had a badly dropped pass after getting open on another route. Tyler (5-10, 230) has an NFL body along with some quickness.

TCU linebacker Tank Carder played well and did a quality job of staying with backs out of the backfield. It was impressive to see Carder closely cover quick, smaller running back Bobby Rainey from Western Kentucky. Later on in the nine-on-nine run scrimmage, Carder blasted a fullback in the backfield to blow up a run. Carder also flowed down the line to make a good stop of Tyler about three yards downfield. Carder had a few mistakes in practice, but overall, he looked improved.

Other highlights from that nine-on-nine session saw Rainey break off a nice touchdown run. Tyler burst through the line for a good run behind the right side of the line, and Arkansas linebacker Jerry Franklin had some quality plays. The 6-foot-1, 241-pound Franklin is a quick player who definitely looks like a 4-3 defender at the next level. Rainey and Tyler both had quality days. Tyler has an ability to burst through arm tackles, run behind his pads and get yards after contact. Right now, he looks like the top back on either team.

The defensive and offensive linemen spent a good amount of time going against each other in one-on-one pass blocking. The line play in the solo battles and the nine-on-nine run scrimmage was the focus of a lot of the prominent decision-makers present. Washington Redskins general manager Bruce Allen and Carolina Panthers general manager Marty Hurney both focused on the lines rather than the passing scrimmages on the other end of the field.

Colorado guard/right tackle Ryan Miller is tough to figure out as he can look dominant on one play and terrible on the next. At 6-foot-6, 326-pounds, Miller has a good skill set to work with, but he must get more consistent. At right tackle, Miller was burned by Arnaud Gascon-Nadon from Laval University (Canada) for a sack on a speed rush. This week, Miller could be proving that he will have to stay at guard in the NFL, which will definitely hurt his draft stock.

An offensive tackle who bounced back on Tuesday after a disappointing first day was BYU offensive tackle Matt Reynolds. He fared well in his one-on-one matchups with Ole Miss defensive end Kentrell Lockett and Laval's Gascon-Nadon. Reynolds (6-4, 310) stonewalled Gascon-Nadon's bull rush and mirrored Lockett to stand him up away from the quarterback marker. In the team scrimmage, Reynolds continued his strong play with a nice run block, reaching the second level to give a shot to the Mike linebacker. Reynolds also did well in pass protection on some plays in the full team scrimmage. He needed a good practice and most definitely did.

Lockett had one of the most impressive one-on-one victories when he absolutely destroyed Nebraska offensive tackle Marcel Jones on a bull rush. In the blink of an eye, Lockett bull rushed the big tackle into the quarterback dummy. That rush drew a lot of cheering from his Ole Miss teammates and chatter on the sidelines.

Two tight ends stood out with quality practices. Michigan's Kevin Koger and North Carolina State's George Bryan both played well. Koger (6-3, 262) and Bryan (6-5, 265) are big, physical tight ends in the ground game. Each had an impressive catch in traffic down the middle seam in the team scrimmage. Koger especially had some nice blocks in the run period.

Boise State wide receiver Tyler Shoemaker had his second straight day of production. He is hard for defensive backs to cover downfield with some quickness and route-running. Shoemaker (6-1, 214) also has some size, which he uses well.

Northwestern quarterback Dan Persa is the most effective signal-caller at moving the chains, but his height is a killer (5-11, 212). Northern Illinois quarterback Chandler Harnish has a skill set that could interest some teams as a developmental project.



Here is a quick list of some of the post-practice interviews between the player and a team that was spending some time talking to the prospect:

Kansas City - Fresno State wide receiver Devon Wylie and Virginia cornerback Rodney McLeod

Indianapolis - Arizona cornerback Trevin Wade

New Orleans - Iowa cornerback Shaun Prater

Jacksonville - SMU guard Josh LeRibeus

San Diego - Fresno State wide receiver Devon Wylie

Philadelphia - Arizona cornerback Trevin Wade

Buffalo - Fresno State wide receiver Devon Wylie and Laval University defensive end Arnaud Gascon-Nadon

Cleveland - Boise State defensive end Tyrone Crawford

Baltimore - USC defensive end DaJohn Harris and UCLA tight end Cory Harkey

jd1020
01-18-2012, 10:13 AM
2 CB's so far.

I guess the Chiefs aren't having many discussions with Carr.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 10:20 AM
With the number of DBs the Chiefs have drafted the past 3 years, I really don't think it says anything about the Carr situation.

I could be wrong but this regime just seems to value DBs in quantity.

DaKCMan AP
01-18-2012, 10:32 AM
With the number of DBs the Chiefs have drafted the past 3 years, I really don't think it says anything about the Carr situation.

I could be wrong but this regime just seems to value DBs in quantity.

It's the Patriot way. Look at how many DBs they draft.

the Talking Can
01-18-2012, 11:05 AM
they understand the NFL is a passing league and prepare accordingly on defense

meanwhile on offense...

Frosty
01-18-2012, 11:30 AM
2 CB's so far.

I guess the Chiefs aren't having many discussions with Carr.

I don't see Hardin as anything more than a 4th or 5th CB and ST player. I don't know anything about the other corner but I don't think they are looking at someone to replace Carr here.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 11:38 AM
they understand the NFL is a passing league and prepare accordingly on defense

meanwhile on offense...

ROFL

:deevee:

jd1020
01-18-2012, 12:37 PM
I don't see Hardin as anything more than a 4th or 5th CB and ST player. I don't know anything about the other corner but I don't think they are looking at someone to replace Carr here.

They may not have a choice. Carr wanted a contract last year, if I'm not mistaken. He might want out of KC because of how long they've delayed this shit and he may not feel wanted.

Nightfyre
01-18-2012, 10:59 PM
They may not have a choice. Carr wanted a contract last year, if I'm not mistaken. He might want out of KC because of how long they've delayed this shit and he may not feel wanted.

because football players are twelve year-olds?

ChiefsCountry
01-18-2012, 11:09 PM
they understand the NFL is a passing league and prepare accordingly on defense

meanwhile on offense...

Got to draft more tight ends.

jd1020
01-19-2012, 02:27 AM
because football players are twelve year-olds?

Some one has to be 12 years old to want respect?

htismaqe
01-19-2012, 07:31 AM
because football players are twelve year-olds?

In many ways, yes.

Chiefnj2
01-19-2012, 08:17 AM
Practice reports from Wednesday were pretty brutal. Apparently neither team has a QB that can throw the ball with any consistency over 10 yards. Don't look for WRs or CBs to show their stuff this weekend.

htismaqe
01-19-2012, 08:50 AM
Practice reports from Wednesday were pretty brutal. Apparently neither team has a QB that can throw the ball with any consistency over 10 yards. Don't look for WRs or CBs to show their stuff this weekend.

Who are the QBs there?

Chiefnj2
01-19-2012, 09:47 AM
Who are the QBs there?

http://www.shrinegame.com/Teams/Watchlist.aspx

Detoxing
01-19-2012, 09:56 AM
http://www.shrinegame.com/Teams/Watchlist.aspx

Pfff.....Lucky if there is even a 7th rounder on that list of QB's.

htismaqe
01-19-2012, 10:03 AM
Pfff.....Lucky if there is even a 7th rounder on that list of QB's.

It's not a great list and there aren't any guys on there higher than a 4th-round grade but that's disappointing if Persa, Harnish, and Austin Davis are THAT bad...

Chiefnj2
01-19-2012, 10:24 AM
Too bad Foles, Cousins, or Lindley didn't play. If they are half-way decent it seems like they would have improved their stock and stood out in a good way.

htismaqe
01-19-2012, 10:31 AM
Too bad Foles, Cousins, or Lindley didn't play. If they are half-way decent it seems like they would have improved their stock and stood out in a good way.

Is the Shrine game limited to Seniors? It's hard to keep track of all this stuff but Foles isn't a senior is he?

Frosty
01-19-2012, 10:31 AM
Is the Shrine game limited to Seniors? It's hard to keep track of all this stuff but Foles isn't a senior is he?

Foles is playing in the Senior Bowl.

So is Cousins and Lindley.

Detoxing
01-19-2012, 10:33 AM
Foles is playing in the Senior Bowl.

As is Lindley IIRC.

Frosty
01-19-2012, 10:35 AM
As is Lindley IIRC.

You were in before the edit.

Chiefnj2
01-19-2012, 10:50 AM
Foles is playing in the Senior Bowl.

So is Cousins and Lindley.

Is it one or the other, or can a player do both?

Frosty
01-19-2012, 10:53 AM
Is it one or the other, or can a player do both?

Since the Senior Bowl is more prestigious, I doubt someone invited to the Senior Bowl would play in the Shrine Bowl due to injury concerns.

Frosty
01-21-2012, 06:28 PM
I don't see Hardin as anything more than a 4th or 5th CB and ST player. I don't know anything about the other corner but I don't think they are looking at someone to replace Carr here.

They said during the Shrine game that Hardin had been converted to safety, so the Chiefs were probably looking at him there, not corner.