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MIAdragon
01-17-2012, 12:22 PM
:LOL:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/St-Louis-Rams-head-coach-Jeff-Fisher-to-sign-five-year-deal-011712

The St. Louis Rams are set to make Jeff Fisher the NFL's second-highest paid coach, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Tuesday.

Fisher, who chose the Rams over the Miami Dolphins Friday, will sign a five-year contract worth about $35 million before his formal introduction at a 2:00pm ET news conference Tuesday.

His yearly salary of about $7 million is second only to Bill Belichick's $7.5 million, and tied with the Redskins' Mike Shanahan.

The 53-year-old, who did not coach this season after 17 years with the Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans, will only be given the title of head coach.

However, he reportedly will be involved in the ongoing search for a general manager, and is expected to have significant input on personnel decisions.



According to the NFL Network, Gregg Williams will leave the Saints to become Fisher's defensive coordinator, while Brian Schottenheimer, formerly of the Jets, is the leading contender to become the Rams' offensive coordinator.

Williams' contract was up in New Orleans, and just last week he had referred to Fisher as his "best friend in coaching."

Fisher is also expected to interview former Raiders head coach Hue Jackson for the offensive coordinator job, according to ESPN.

Red Beans
01-17-2012, 12:25 PM
"Money well spent." - Omega/Gif Horse/Clay

Rain Man
01-17-2012, 12:25 PM
I really don't get this. The guy had 17 years of stability, a #1 draft pick QB who wasn't a bust (McNair), and he didn't bring home a Lombardi. In 17 years the odds are that any average coach will make it to at least one Super Bowl just by random luck, and that's what he did. Way to shoot towards average, St. Louis.

kstater
01-17-2012, 12:26 PM
That's a lot of ficking money for mediocrity.

jd1020
01-17-2012, 12:27 PM
I really don't get this. The guy had 17 years of stability, a #1 draft pick QB who wasn't a bust (McNair), and he didn't bring home a Lombardi. In 17 years the odds are that any average coach will make it to at least one Super Bowl just by random luck, and that's what he did. Way to shoot towards average, St. Louis.

We are shooting for the moon with Crennel.

the Talking Can
01-17-2012, 12:27 PM
fuck that noise...

the Talking Can
01-17-2012, 12:27 PM
we can get like 40 crennels for that price

Okie_Apparition
01-17-2012, 12:28 PM
$875,000 a win
in a good year

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 12:28 PM
7m a year for Jeff Fisher, or 5m a year for Scott Pioli.

I know who I want.

Chocolate Hog
01-17-2012, 12:28 PM
That's a lot for 8 wins a year.

KC_Lee
01-17-2012, 12:29 PM
Wow, that averages $1,000,000 to $800,000 per win. Congrats St. Louis.

Chocolate Hog
01-17-2012, 12:29 PM
7m a year for Jeff Fisher, or 5m a year for Scott Pioli.

I know who I want.

Yeah Pioli.

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 12:29 PM
I really don't get this. The guy had 17 years of stability, a #1 draft pick QB who wasn't a bust (McNair), and he didn't bring home a Lombardi. In 17 years the odds are that any average coach will make it to at least one Super Bowl just by random luck, and that's what he did. Way to shoot towards average, St. Louis.

He did not have stability for 17 years once the owner started meddling.

Said it several times: Fisher should be judged on what he did during his career with McNair and nothing else.

He would have won at least one Super Bowl if he hadn't run into 1. The Greatest Offense Ever and 2. The Greatest Defense Ever.

pr_capone
01-17-2012, 12:30 PM
We are shooting for the moon with Crennel.

A. KC isn't paying RAC 7mil per year.
B. RAC didn't have 17 years under a single franchise with 2 1st rd pick qbs.

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 12:30 PM
I guarantee you the Rams win a playoff game before the Chiefs do.

Then you'll all be laughing at Fisher I'm sure.

MIAdragon
01-17-2012, 12:31 PM
I guarantee you the Rams win a playoff game before the Chiefs do.

Then you'll all be laughing at Fisher I'm sure.

LMAO

Okie_Apparition
01-17-2012, 12:31 PM
THe Arch is just a symbol of getting bent over

Rain Man
01-17-2012, 12:32 PM
We are shooting for the moon with Crennel.

I'm going to back Romeo, but I'd prefer that they roll the dice and bring in a guy who could be great. I think Cleveland already proved that Crennel is not the next Lombardi.

I really liked the philosophy of the Haley hire. It may not have worked out like we wanted, but it was a good bet. I wish they'd do it again.

-King-
01-17-2012, 12:32 PM
7m a year for Jeff Fisher, or 5m a year for Scott Pioli.

I know who I want.

I'll take Piolis last 2 drafts over all ~16 of Fishers.

I'd pay Pioli 10M if it meant that I wouldn't have to pay 7M to Fisher.

Chocolate Hog
01-17-2012, 12:32 PM
I guarantee you the Rams win a playoff game before the Chiefs do.

Then you'll all be laughing at Fisher I'm sure.

Romeo will double Fishers win total next year.

jd1020
01-17-2012, 12:33 PM
A. KC isn't paying RAC 7mil per year.
B. RAC didn't have 17 years under a single franchise with 2 1st rd pick qbs.

So Romeo has had far less opportunity to be HC and is 11 years older? Seems like a fantastic hire.

Rain Man
01-17-2012, 12:34 PM
He did not have stability for 17 years once the owner started meddling.

Said it several times: Fisher should be judged on what he did during his career with McNair and nothing else.

He would have won at least one Super Bowl if he hadn't run into 1. The Greatest Offense Ever and 2. The Greatest Defense Ever.

So in other words, he would've won a Super Bowl if there wasn't a better team out there that year. And every other year.

I don't know the extent to which the owner meddled, so I can't comment on that. I understand it happened on the Vince Young pick, but did it happen consistently?

Okie_Apparition
01-17-2012, 12:35 PM
Romeo has 5 rings
he'll shove the 6th up Fisher's ass

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 12:39 PM
I'll take Piolis last 2 drafts over all ~16 of Fishers.

I'd pay Pioli 10M if it meant that I wouldn't have to pay 7M to Fisher.

LMAO

Wake me when Pioli drafts someone with the impact of a Jevon Kearse.

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 12:39 PM
So in other words, he would've won a Super Bowl if there wasn't a better team out there that year. And every other year.

I don't know the extent to which the owner meddled, so I can't comment on that. I understand it happened on the Vince Young pick, but did it happen consistently?

As soon as he forced VY on Fisher, stability was gone.

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 12:40 PM
I'll go all 'Hamas' Jenkins on this:

I will leave CP for a year if Romeo Crennel wins more games as Chiefs coach than Fisher does as Rams coach.

And I'll even count the two wins he already has.

Chiefnj2
01-17-2012, 12:42 PM
As soon as he forced VY on Fisher, stability was gone.


Since 2006, Jeff Fisher has a 14-18 record with anyone other than Young starting at QB. With Vince Young at the helm, Fisher and the Titans are 26-9.

-King-
01-17-2012, 12:42 PM
I'll go all 'Hamas' Jenkins on this:

I will leave CP for a year if Romeo Crennel wins more games as Chiefs coach than Fisher does as Rams coach.

And I'll even count the two wins he already has.

Next year? Are you fucking high? You really think the 2012 Rams will win more games than the 2012 Chiefs?

Bowser
01-17-2012, 12:42 PM
Gruden and Cowher think this is a very interesting story.

Okie_Apparition
01-17-2012, 12:42 PM
Of Course
Fisher will be in St Louis long after RAC has retired

-King-
01-17-2012, 12:42 PM
Since 2006, Jeff Fisher has a 14-18 record with anyone other than Young starting at QB. With Vince Young at the helm, Fisher and the Titans are 26-9.:LOL::LOL: Owned.

Bowser
01-17-2012, 12:43 PM
I'll go all 'Hamas' Jenkins on this:

I will leave CP for a year if Romeo Crennel wins more games as Chiefs coach than Fisher does as Rams coach.

And I'll even count the two wins he already has.

Throw in not posting at Texansplanet as well, and you've got a deal.

jd1020
01-17-2012, 12:43 PM
Since 2006, Jeff Fisher has a 14-18 record with anyone other than Young starting at QB. With Vince Young at the helm, Fisher and the Titans are 26-9.

The QB Fisher wanted is still starting in the NFL.

Gonzo
01-17-2012, 12:44 PM
I guarantee you the Rams win a playoff game before the Chiefs do.

Then you'll all be laughing at Fisher I'm sure.

Maybe, I mean they have a qb, (sort of).

I think (Barring injuries) that the Chiefs will win a playoff game this year. Will the Rams do the same?

Meh, I'd give them about a 40% chance.
They're going to have a pretty easy schedule this year.

-King-
01-17-2012, 12:44 PM
LMAO

Wake me when Pioli drafts someone with the impact of a Jevon Kearse.

You realize that Kearse had one elite year and consistently got worse every single year? And I'd take Eric berry over Kearse any day of the week.

Okie_Apparition
01-17-2012, 12:45 PM
Well Finnegan's Titan contract is up
I wonder if he'll take Charles out for the year in the Governor's Cup game

pr_capone
01-17-2012, 12:46 PM
I'll go all 'Hamas' Jenkins on this:

I will leave CP for a year if Romeo Crennel wins more games as Chiefs coach than Fisher does as Rams coach.

And I'll even count the two wins he already has.

To be clear,

Preseason not included, playoffs not included. You are saying that for the 2012 regular season, Jeff Fisher will have 3+ more wins than RAC (since you are including the 2 for this season for RAC). Is this correct?

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 12:47 PM
Next year? Are you fucking high? You really think the 2012 Rams will win more games than the 2012 Chiefs?

No, over the course of their tenure.

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 12:47 PM
You realize that Kearse had one elite year and consistently got worse every single year? And I'd take Eric berry over Kearse any day of the week.

You'd take an elite pass rusher over a good safety who know has a knee issue.

Smart guy.

jd1020
01-17-2012, 12:48 PM
To be clear,

Preseason not included, playoffs not included. You are saying that for the 2012 regular season, Jeff Fisher will have 3+ more wins than RAC (since you are including the 2 for this season for RAC). Is this correct?

Where did he say next year?

He said as a Rams coach and a Chiefs coach. So... Crennel has to be dominant in his years as a Chief since its likely Fisher will be a Rams coach for longer.

pr_capone
01-17-2012, 12:48 PM
No, over the course of their tenure.

That is a long expiration date.

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 12:48 PM
The QB Fisher wanted is still starting in the NFL.

Yep, Cutler would have been a good pick.

-King-
01-17-2012, 12:49 PM
No, over the course of their tenure.

Well of course ROFL Fisher will be the coach of the rams for 20 seasons or some shit. This is a no risk bet for you.

-King-
01-17-2012, 12:49 PM
You'd take an elite pass rusher over a good safety who know has a knee issue.

Smart guy.

He had ONE elite year.

pr_capone
01-17-2012, 12:50 PM
Where did he say next year?

He said as a Rams coach and a Chiefs coach. So... Crennel has to be dominant in his years as a Chief since its likely Fisher will be a Rams coach for longer.

The question mark at the end of my post means that I am looking for clarification, in fact, I even added the words... "is that correct" before said question mark. I thought that the meaning of that symbol was universally understood.

My apologies.

Start Croyle
01-17-2012, 12:51 PM
Dumb! Why pay somebody so much, when they are the first person you get rid of when things start going downhill? In today's NFL, coaches are disposable! With the kind of management style that has become prominent, there is no reason to pay any coach this much! It's a waste of money!

jd1020
01-17-2012, 12:52 PM
The question mark at the end of my post means that I am looking for clarification, in fact, I even added the words... "is that correct" before said question mark. I thought that the meaning of that symbol was universally understood.

My apologies.

My bad. I thought it was clear.

BoneKrusher
01-17-2012, 12:52 PM
That's a lot for 8 wins a year.

ain't that the truth...

Brock
01-17-2012, 12:53 PM
No, over the course of their tenure.

:facepalm: Weak, wimpy, worthless bet.

jd1020
01-17-2012, 12:59 PM
:facepalm: Weak, wimpy, worthless bet.

Should be more wins in 2014.

That would give both coaches 1 full season with their teams.

htismaqe
01-17-2012, 01:02 PM
Yep, Cutler would have been a good pick.

He was also very high on Matt Lionheart as well.

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 01:06 PM
:facepalm: Weak, wimpy, worthless bet.

If Fisher is as god awful as everyone here says, he'll be fired in 3 or 4 years.

Mr. Laz
01-17-2012, 01:06 PM
it's about franchise structure, not the money.

Brock
01-17-2012, 01:09 PM
it's about franchise structure, not the money.

LMAO yep

Mile High Mania
01-17-2012, 01:11 PM
"Over-Rated" (clap, clap - clap, clap, clap)

Brock
01-17-2012, 01:17 PM
If Fisher is as god awful as everyone here says, he'll be fired in 3 or 4 years.

Who says he's awful? He's 8-8 personified.

Deberg_1990
01-17-2012, 01:30 PM
I think alot of owners and GM like "safe" choices like Fisher because you know exactly what you are getting. 8-11 wins a year, win a playoff game or 2 in 5 years......keeps the butts in seats. This is why guys like Wade Phillips keep getting looks at HC. In their minds better to play it safe than a potential trainwreck.

HemiEd
01-17-2012, 01:35 PM
He did not have stability for 17 years once the owner started meddling.

Said it several times: Fisher should be judged on what he did during his career with McNair and nothing else.

He would have won at least one Super Bowl if he hadn't run into 1. The Greatest Offense Ever and 2. The Greatest Defense Ever.

:LOL: Its always somebody, how is LJ doing now?

HemiEd
01-17-2012, 01:36 PM
I'm going to back Romeo, but I'd prefer that they roll the dice and bring in a guy who could be great. I think Cleveland already proved that Crennel is not the next Lombardi.

I really liked the philosophy of the Haley hire. It may not have worked out like we wanted, but it was a good bet. I wish they'd do it again.

This

vailpass
01-17-2012, 01:36 PM
What say those of you who were posting Fisher wouldn't get a HC job and/or wouldn't command a high-dollar salary?

Munson
01-17-2012, 01:38 PM
Who knew that mediocrity could pay so well.

HemiEd
01-17-2012, 01:40 PM
Should be more wins in 2014.

That would give both coaches 1 full season with their teams.

Not very good at math, are you?

jd1020
01-17-2012, 01:41 PM
Not very good at math, are you?

Are you?

BigMeatballDave
01-17-2012, 01:42 PM
Holee shit

htismaqe
01-17-2012, 01:42 PM
I think alot of owners and GM like "safe" choices like Fisher because you know exactly what you are getting. 8-11 wins a year, win a playoff game or 2 in 5 years......keeps the butts in seats. This is why guys like Wade Phillips keep getting looks at HC. In their minds better to play it safe than a potential trainwreck.

That's exactly it.

We tried to do the RIGHT thing when we hired Haley. That's how you get a Harbaugh or Peyton.

Unfortunately, the downside is...well...Todd Haley.

HemiEd
01-17-2012, 01:43 PM
Are you?

Yeah, better than screwing up 1, 2 , 3. :D

2014 would be their third season. 2012 first, 2013 second, etc. See how that works?

jd1020
01-17-2012, 01:44 PM
That's exactly it.

We tried to do the RIGHT thing when we hired Haley. That's how you get a Harbaugh or Peyton.

Unfortunately, the downside is...well...Todd Haley.

Seems awfully similar to the QB situation.

Went out and tried to get an "up and coming stud HC" and failed. Now they are scared to try again.

jd1020
01-17-2012, 01:47 PM
Yeah, better than screwing up 1, 2 , 3. :D

2014 would be their third season. 2012 first, 2013 second, etc. See how that works?

2014. 1 season.

The advantage in talent Crennel has to work with would make it completely unfair.

Coaches generally get 3 years to show something. Fisher should be able to put his own fingerprint on the Rams by then, same goes for Crennel.

WhiteWhale
01-17-2012, 02:03 PM
He did not have stability for 17 years once the owner started meddling.

Said it several times: Fisher should be judged on what he did during his career with McNair and nothing else.

He would have won at least one Super Bowl if he hadn't run into 1. The Greatest Offense Ever and 2. The Greatest Defense Ever.

Okay.

Air Mcnair was an incredible college prospect with game changing potential. Fisher turned him into a game manager and refused to give him any weapons on the outside and relied on a running game. Had a better smarter coach taken advantage of McNair's talents, the Titans would have been far more successful in the post-season. Not only that, but since Fisher rarely gave him any good protection he was often injured from taking a ridiculous amount of hits.

As for Vince Young... lol. Vince Young as a starter = 30-18

Fisher kept starting Kerry Collins over Young. Collins as a starter under Fisher = 15-17

Remember 2009 when his 'meddling' owner forced him to change QB's and the team went from 0-6 with Collins to 8-2 with Young? I bet fisher was pissed since he was trying really hard to get fired, an action you condemn Haley for but give Fisher a pass on.

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 02:36 PM
McNair was so much of a game manager that he was in the top 10 in passing multiple seasons.

And Young did not win those games. Go and look at the performance of their defense.

ChiefsCountry
01-17-2012, 02:46 PM
$875,000 per win for the Rams with 8-8 Fisher.

Dave Lane
01-17-2012, 02:50 PM
we can get like 40 crennels for that price

On a per pound basis though Crennel really shines.

Rams Fan
01-17-2012, 03:01 PM
Remember when the Titans won, what, 12 games with Kerry Collins at QB?

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 03:03 PM
Remember when the Titans won, what, 12 games with Kerry Collins at QB?

Thirteen.

KC_Lee
01-17-2012, 03:07 PM
Remember when the Titans won, what, 12 games with Kerry Collins at QB?

They went 13 - 3, had home field and promptly lost at home in the first game. The entire city of Nashville was on suicide watch after that game.

Hmmm...a coach that loves to run the ball, play strong D, and had a broke dick vet at QB that goes 13 - 3 and loses. That sound famliar to anyone on this board?

Anyone?

Fisher has never had any really awful teams, just a few good teams that were held back by his conservative play calling.

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 03:08 PM
Fisher has never had any really awful teams, just a few good teams that were held back by his conservative play calling.

LMAO

Fisher loved the deep ball on offense.

He also hired an OC to throw the ball down the field late in his Titans career.

Rams Fan
01-17-2012, 03:10 PM
Thirteen.

Thought Collins came in Week 1 after Young went down(Young started the game I believe).

KC_Lee
01-17-2012, 03:10 PM
LMAO

Fisher loved the deep ball on offense.

He also hired an OC to throw the ball down the field late in his Titans career.

Yeah, on a play action fake after running it up the middle endlessly ala Marty during the DeBerg years.

Count Zarth
01-17-2012, 03:11 PM
OK. Whatever.

Can't wait to see how well our offense does with Rme Crennel as our head coach.

Brock
01-17-2012, 03:15 PM
OK. Whatever.

Can't wait to see how well our offense does with Rme Crennel as our head coach.

It will probably look surprisingly similiar to our offense with Todd Haley as our head coach, depending on who the QB is.

KC_Lee
01-17-2012, 03:20 PM
OK. Whatever.

Can't wait to see how well our offense does with Rme Crennel as our head coach.

No fan of RAC and the HC. The only way this works out is if we hire a great OC and keep Romeo's grubby mits off the O.

Let me see if I can put this into terms that Chiefs’ fans can relate too.

Jeff Fisher = Matt Cassel

Now what do I mean by this? Simple, compare how people look at them from afar. Both are living off what they did, for a very brief moment, in the past.

In Fisher’s case he drafted a QB in the first round (during the Clinton administration) and made it to a Super Bowl (again during the Clinton administration and only got out of the first round on a miracle special teams play).

In Cassel’s case he had one good year filling in for Brady, went to the Pro Bowl, and helped the Chiefs win the AFC West.

However if we look closer, or if you have seen either man first hand over a period of time, you realize that neither is all that impressive. For Fisher he only made playoff runs if everything worked perfectly. Sort like how everything has to be working (running game, D, etc.) for Cassel to be successful. Hell is last playoff run, the one with Collins starting, the Titans got every bounce that could go their way.

Chocolate Hog
01-17-2012, 03:21 PM
OK. Whatever.

Can't wait to see how well our offense does with Rme Crennel as our head coach.

Depends is Charles still getting 6 yards a carry?

whoman69
01-17-2012, 05:51 PM
That's just crazy.