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ChiefsNow
01-18-2012, 03:04 AM
Wikipedia is protesting against SOPA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more

HoneyBadger
01-18-2012, 03:08 AM
Good for them.

jd1020
01-18-2012, 03:18 AM
Google is doing something similar.

They've got their logo blocked and if you click it sends you to a SOPA/PIPA site.

KCtotheSB
01-18-2012, 03:40 AM
SHIT JUST GOT REAL

Pushead2
01-18-2012, 04:02 AM
Craigslist too...

BCD
01-18-2012, 04:53 AM
The government needs to stay the fuck away from the Internet.

Predarat
01-18-2012, 05:02 AM
Hope this makes more people aware of how heavy handed and overbearing our wonderful gubbment has become.

Fritz88
01-18-2012, 05:12 AM
It's all ****ing Joe Biden's work.

jAZ
01-18-2012, 05:18 AM
Hope this makes more people aware of how heavy handed and overbearing our wonderful gubbment has become.

Correction... how heavy handed and overbearing the unregulated, corporate funded lobbying efforts have become.

Predarat
01-18-2012, 05:38 AM
Correction... how heavy handed and overbearing the unregulated, corporate funded lobbying efforts have become.

Both are true.

wazu
01-18-2012, 05:54 AM
FYI for Missouri voters - Roy Blunt is a SOPA co-sponsor.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 06:09 AM
Correction... how heavy handed and overbearing the unregulated, corporate funded lobbying efforts have become.

It's both, actually.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 06:13 AM
The government needs to stay the **** away from the Internet.

While I agree, you might want to drop into Media Planet and check out he discussion we were having on Net Neutrality.

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a middle ground. It's either meddling from the power-hungry government or meddling from money-hungry corporations.

eazyb81
01-18-2012, 06:21 AM
I hate Big Internet.

Guru
01-18-2012, 07:01 AM
Slickdeals.net has some odd pop up about sopa when you to to their website. annoying

Lzen
01-18-2012, 07:28 AM
Correction... how heavy handed and overbearing the unregulated, corporate funded lobbying efforts have become.

And WTF do you think those lobbyists are lobbying to? :doh!:

PGM
01-18-2012, 07:32 AM
I think I'll survive.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 07:34 AM
And WTF do you think those lobbyists are lobbying to? :doh!:

Because the government is inherently benevolent and would only pursue what's in our best interest if it wasn't for those pesky corporate lobbyists!

luv
01-18-2012, 07:35 AM
FYI for Missouri voters - Roy Blunt is a SOPA co-sponsor.

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Lzen
01-18-2012, 07:38 AM
Because the government is inherently benevolent and would only pursue what's in our best interest if it wasn't for those pesky corporate lobbyists!

Heck no I don't think that. I think this legislation is BS, FWIW.

loochy
01-18-2012, 07:40 AM
Please everybody sign this petition (linked if you click on the blacked out google logo)

https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

Jack
01-18-2012, 07:41 AM
If Al Gore hadn't invented the 'Net, this wouldn't have happened. . .

Heard he started his own band. . .the Al Gore Rhythms. . .

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 08:27 AM
Heck no I don't think that. I think this legislation is BS, FWIW.

I was being sarcastic.

DaFace
01-18-2012, 08:52 AM
http://i.imgur.com/8LBt7.jpg

Coach
01-18-2012, 09:11 AM
*sigh* More mismanagement and unnecessary waste of taxpayers dollars on a silly bill that doesn't need to be introduced, where te people who started this bill needs their heads whacked (this pretty much applies to most all government representives/senate anyways) and start figuring out the debt problem, crumbling school systems (see KCMO as excellent example) and other things that are deemed more important than this.

I am very disappointed in our government that they have no direction or any 'common sense' as to how to run a country.

Edit: I am not starting anything political. I am just expressing my dismay and disappointment on this issue.

vailpass
01-18-2012, 09:14 AM
Wikipedia is probably gone forever. As I understand it, once you go black you never go back.

58-4ever
01-18-2012, 09:18 AM
#Occupy the Internet!

big nasty kcnut
01-18-2012, 09:24 AM
Hit the esc key when it loading and you can still access wikipedia.

Reaper16
01-18-2012, 09:43 AM
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/ = a Wikipedia mirror site.

vailpass
01-18-2012, 09:51 AM
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/ = a Wikipedia mirror site.

thank goodness. I didn't know where to go for my erroneous data and hearsay quotes that are not acceptable by any school or business in America.

Setsuna
01-18-2012, 09:51 AM
Figures a socialist would pull this move. Great job America. Retards.

Demonpenz
01-18-2012, 09:55 AM
thank goodness. I didn't know where to go for my erroneous data and hearsay quotes that are not acceptable by any school or business in America.

I went to Northwest Missouri State and they accepted all my Wiki Credited links, also helped me start my tribute to my favorite game show www.geocities.com/tic-tac-dough

vailpass
01-18-2012, 09:58 AM
I went to Northwest Missouri State and they accepted all my Wiki Credited links, also helped me start my tribute to my favorite game show www.geocities.com/tic-tac-dough

LMAO Gene Rayburn was the stuff.

Predarat
01-18-2012, 10:06 AM
The fact that this kind of shit is even on the table is disturbing enough, the support it has from some of the congress and senate is even more disturbing. They seem to want to turn this into the USSA, and that goes for both main parties.

Dick Bull
01-18-2012, 10:09 AM
The fact that this kind of shit is even on the table is disturbing enough, the support it has from some of the congress and senate is even more disturbing. They seem to want to turn this into the USSA, and that goes for both main parties.


Amazing what the power of lobbying dollars can buy ya, isn't it?

Dick Bull
01-18-2012, 10:13 AM
Figures a socialist would pull this move. Great job America. Retards.

Hold your roll there Chachi. Bill was introduced by House Judiciary Committee Chair Representative Lamar S. Smith (R-TX) and a bipartisan group of 12 initial co-sponsors.

Predarat
01-18-2012, 10:14 AM
Hold your roll there Chachi. Bill was introduced by House Judiciary Committee Chair Representative Lamar S. Smith (R-TX) and a bipartisan group of 12 initial co-sponsors.

Exactly, plenty of red and blue supporting this bullshit. Damn near 50/50.

Dick Bull
01-18-2012, 10:16 AM
Exactly, plenty of red and blue supporting this bullshit. Damn near 50/50.


It ain't about red, it ain't about blue. It is about green. Vote them all out I say.

sedated
01-18-2012, 10:24 AM
Can't Google just buy the government at this point?

Raiderhader
01-18-2012, 10:25 AM
If this passes the Planet will be blocked for sure. We cross way too many lines here for it not to be....

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 10:25 AM
LMAO Gene Rayburn was the stuff.

Come on man!

Gene Rayburn was "The Match Game".

"Tic Tac Dough" was the immortal Wink Martindale!

Mr. Laz
01-18-2012, 10:29 AM
I think I'll survive.
which is not the point at all.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2012, 10:36 AM
http://wilwheaton.typepad.com/wwdnbackup/2012/01/today-the-us-senate-is-considering-legislation-that-would-destroy-the-free-and-open-internet.html

lcarus
01-18-2012, 10:40 AM
These bills won't stop piracy in the slightest, so there's no pros and a ton of cons.

rageeumr
01-18-2012, 10:42 AM
I think TexansPlanet should join the fight and black themselves out for an indefinite period of time.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2012, 10:43 AM
These bills won't stop piracy in the slightest, so there's no pros and a ton of cons.
this is about congress taking bribes and getting paid

BOTH sides of the aisle

Detoxing
01-18-2012, 10:46 AM
So this bill would almost effectively shut down Chiefsplanet, right?

DRU
01-18-2012, 10:48 AM
So this bill would almost effectively shut down Chiefsplanet, right?

Yes, and thousands of other sites.

The bill itself wouldn't, but the crazy moderation that would need to happen to protect yourself from getting blocked or even have charges pressed would be enough that most website owners wouldn't be able to handle it.

Guru
01-18-2012, 10:50 AM
So this bill would almost effectively shut down Chiefsplanet, right?

Well, the mods would have to eliminate Media Center, streaming threads and any links supporting streaming and piracy. So, yeah, pretty much,.

Detoxing
01-18-2012, 10:53 AM
Well, the mods would have to eliminate Media Center, streaming threads and any links supporting streaming and piracy. So, yeah, pretty much,.

We also wouldn't be able to post KC Star articles, etc, amirite?

kysirsoze
01-18-2012, 10:54 AM
I don't think this bill stands a chance. There's already so much push back from the public. Even if it passed, just wait until people can't go to any of their favorite sites. I can't see it sticking around.

BIG_DADDY
01-18-2012, 10:54 AM
Feinswine is a big supporter of it, shocking. That whore is the biggest sellout.

Guru
01-18-2012, 10:54 AM
We also wouldn't be able to post KC Star articles, etc, amirite?

I thought that was already in effect. Hence why more and more people are just putting a link to the story up instead of posting the article.

Douche Baggins
01-18-2012, 10:54 AM
Craigslist too...

I'm experiencing withdrawal from sluts.

Jerm
01-18-2012, 10:55 AM
NDAA...SOPA...it's only the beginning....

kysirsoze
01-18-2012, 10:56 AM
We also wouldn't be able to post KC Star articles, etc, amirite?

The way I understand it, CP could even get shut down for posting pictures and such that aren't cleared. If anything that shows up can be claimed as IP or copyright, CP is held fully responsible and is shut down. The Attorney General could even shut it down, essentially, if he just feels like it.

Also, if anyone were to post a thread on here instructing people on how to get around the government censorship, the site would get shut down.


It's pretty insane.

Dick Bull
01-18-2012, 11:02 AM
I don't think this bill stands a chance. There's already so much push back from the public. Even if it passed, just wait until people can't go to any of their favorite sites. I can't see it sticking around.


It's a lot harder to get rid of than it is not to get in the first place.

Kind of like herpes.

DaFace
01-18-2012, 11:03 AM
The way I understand it, CP could even get shut down for posting pictures and such that aren't cleared. If anything that shows up can be claimed as IP or copyright, CP is held fully responsible and is shut down. The Attorney General could even shut it down, essentially, if he just feels like it.

Also, if anyone were to post a thread on here instructing people on how to get around the government censorship, the site would get shut down.


It's pretty insane.

Yep. Even copyrighted avatars could, potentially, cause issues.

kysirsoze
01-18-2012, 11:03 AM
It's a lot harder to get rid of than it is not to get in the first place.

Kind of like herpes.

Agreed. I am actively opposing the SOPA/PIPA passage. It's scary to read about this kind of thing coming this close to reality.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 11:03 AM
Yes, and thousands of other sites.

The bill itself wouldn't, but the crazy moderation that would need to happen to protect yourself from getting blocked or even have charges pressed would be enough that most website owners wouldn't be able to handle it.

Exactly. Companies would have to absorb the operating costs of the people and technology necessary to police and scrub their own sites.

It's how Youtube ended up getting purchased by Google and ultimately why we now have to endure advertisements every time we want to watch a video clip - operating costs.

Sites like Wikipedia might just cease to exist altogether.

alnorth
01-18-2012, 11:04 AM
Not much more needs to be said. This isn't uninformed hysteria, go research the issue yourself if you are skeptical. These are two of the worst bills ever to be considered by congress in recent history, created by wealthy content creators and an ignorant congress who either doesn't realize or doesn't care about the unintended consequences of this sloppy legislation, and haven't bothered to work with technology experts.

What is even more infuriating is that this will fail to stop piracy or even put a meaningful dent in it. If you are determined to find an illegal sharing site, you'll still figure out a way, and it certainly wont dissuade anyone overseas.

These bills can not be meaningfully improved or amended (unless the amendment is so massive that its basically a full re-write of the whole thing), they must die.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2012, 11:04 AM
The way I understand it, CP could even get shut down for posting pictures and such that aren't cleared. If anything that shows up can be claimed as IP or copyright, CP is held fully responsible and is shut down. The Attorney General could even shut it down, essentially, if he just feels like it.

Also, if anyone were to post a thread on here instructing people on how to get around the government censorship, the site would get shut down.

It's pretty insane.
It's basically the Patriot act for the internet

If the government doesn't like a website there will be an excuse to shut it down.

Carte blanche

the RIAA/MPAA will use it to shut down every torrent and streaming site on the web.

Then the it will be a legal 'BAN HAMMER' for anytime a website pisses someone off.

kysirsoze
01-18-2012, 11:05 AM
One GIF'd up thread would be enough to wipe CP off the face of the internet. Even if AustinChief could scrub EVERYTHING copyrighted off the site, it would so limit what we could do here that this place would be unrecognizable.

alnorth
01-18-2012, 11:07 AM
Sites like Wikipedia might just cease to exist altogether.

Wikipedia is screwed if this passes. There is no way in hell they can ensure that links to sharing sites are scrubbed, and since they rely on donations which are barely enough every year, they cant afford it.

Detoxing
01-18-2012, 11:10 AM
So it would be the end of pretty much all football forums that aren't approved by the NFL (and other sports for that matter). Brilliant!

I mean really, what COULDN'T be considered copyright infringement?

Reaper16
01-18-2012, 11:11 AM
Copyright is an entirely bullshit concept anyway. It's damaging.

DaFace
01-18-2012, 11:12 AM
So it would be the end of pretty much all football forums that aren't approved by the NFL (and other sports for that matter). Brilliant!

I mean really, what COULDN'T be considered copyright infringement?

All clips would have to point to the NFL's site. No YouTube clips posted by other users. No GIF'D UP. Avatars would be crap. Hell, even the header images in the upper-right are probably grounds for a complaint if someone went that far.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2012, 11:14 AM
So it would be the end of pretty much all football forums that aren't approved by the NFL (and other sports for that matter). Brilliant!

I mean really, what COULDN'T be considered copyright infringement?
that's just it ... it allows for anything or nothing.

CP could go along unchanged for years until it pissed somebody off. Then boom, gone.


Think about it ... what would someone like JD Prez do with that threat?

kysirsoze
01-18-2012, 11:14 AM
So it would be the end of pretty much all football forums that aren't approved by the NFL (and other sports for that matter). Brilliant!

I mean really, what COULDN'T be considered copyright infringement?

I just ran and copyrighted your username. I hereby forbid you to post without repping me and giving me 1,000 Casino Cash.

Thanks for your cooperation

alnorth
01-18-2012, 11:16 AM
For what its worth, Senator Rubio has just removed himself as a co-sponser of PROTECT-IP

ChiefsNow
01-18-2012, 11:16 AM
I just ran and copyrighted your username. I hereby forbid you to post without repping me and giving me 1,000 Casino Cash.

Thanks for your cooperation

I just patented the words patent and copyright So you owe me.
.

lcarus
01-18-2012, 11:18 AM
Hey, North Korea censors their internet. We should be just like them.

Guru
01-18-2012, 11:18 AM
Saulbadguy had better go patent dumbass.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2012, 11:21 AM
Hey ... the picture forum would be dead.

Some people would be happy

Raiderhader
01-18-2012, 11:21 AM
that's just it ... it allows for anything or nothing.

CP could go along unchanged for years until it pissed somebody off. Then boom, gone.


Think about it ... what would someone like JD Prez do with that threat?


Oh God.......

Phobia
01-18-2012, 11:24 AM
Yes, and thousands of other sites.

The bill itself wouldn't, but the crazy moderation that would need to happen to protect yourself from getting blocked or even have charges pressed would be enough that most website owners wouldn't be able to handle it.

I can't wait!!! FINALLY!!! Yes!!!

SPchief
01-18-2012, 11:24 AM
I can't wait!!! FINALLY!!! Yes!!!

You could finally ban GoChiefs for good and he couldn't get pissed at you.

Phobia
01-18-2012, 11:26 AM
You could finally ban GoChiefs for good and he couldn't get pissed at you.

I had 3 wet dreams last night about this very thing. Power. More power! YES!

Douche Baggins
01-18-2012, 11:33 AM
One GIF'd up thread would be enough to wipe CP off the face of the internet. Even if AustinChief could scrub EVERYTHING copyrighted off the site, it would so limit what we could do here that this place would be unrecognizable.

Probably not, to be honest. A GIF is such a heavily edited portion of the original film that no one would likely care.

Guru
01-18-2012, 11:33 AM
I had 3 wet dreams last night about this very thing. Power. More power! YES!

I don't think I've ever seen Phobia get this excited before.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 11:36 AM
Not much more needs to be said. This isn't uninformed hysteria, go research the issue yourself if you are skeptical. These are two of the worst bills ever to be considered by congress in recent history, created by wealthy content creators and an ignorant congress who either doesn't realize or doesn't care about the unintended consequences of this sloppy legislation, and haven't bothered to work with technology experts.

What is even more infuriating is that this will fail to stop piracy or even put a meaningful dent in it. If you are determined to find an illegal sharing site, you'll still figure out a way, and it certainly wont dissuade anyone overseas.

These bills can not be meaningfully improved or amended (unless the amendment is so massive that its basically a full re-write of the whole thing), they must die.

The sad thing is, most of the people on Capitol Hill probably KNOW it won't help stop piracy and in fact, they KNOW that's not the actual intention of the bill anyway.

They're using intellectual property infringement as a red herring to increase their stranglehold on our personal lives yet again.

lcarus
01-18-2012, 11:40 AM
The sad thing is, most of the people on Capitol Hill probably KNOW it won't help stop piracy and in fact, they KNOW that's not the actual intention of the bill anyway.

They're using intellectual property infringement as a red herring to increase their stranglehold on our personal lives yet again.

+1. These bills are such BS. This is becoming a communist country if we allow it. Here's an idea Hollywood. You want less people downloading your movies? Maybe if it didn't cost 12 dollars for one person to go see a movie that has a 90% chance of being complete SHIT, people wouldn't resort to these tactics.

Dave Lane
01-18-2012, 11:42 AM
The government needs to stay the **** away from the Internet.

This times 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

Guru
01-18-2012, 11:44 AM
The government needs to stay the **** away from the Internet.

I wonder how many even know how to use the internet.

Deberg_1990
01-18-2012, 11:45 AM
Two senators Rubio and Cornyn have just changed their stances on the bill:


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/technology/web-protests-piracy-bill-and-2-key-senators-change-course.html?hp


Freshman Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a rising Republican star, was first out of the starting gate Wednesday morning with his announcement that he would no longer back anti-Internet piracy legislation he had co-sponsored. Senator John Cornyn, the Texas Republican who heads the campaign operation for his party, quickly followed suit and urged Congress take more time to study the measure that had been set for a test vote next week.

Mr. Cornyn, just before 9 a.m, posted on his Facebook page that it was “better to get this done right rather than fast and wrong. Stealing content is theft, plain and simple, but concerns about unintended damage to the Internet and innovation in the tech sector require a more thoughtful balance, which will take more time.”

Dave Lane
01-18-2012, 11:45 AM
+1. These bills are such BS. This is becoming a communist country if we allow it. Here's an idea Hollywood. You want less people downloading your movies? Maybe if it didn't cost 12 dollars for one person to go see a movie that has a 90% chance of being complete SHIT, people wouldn't resort to these tactics.

Actually you have that 100% wrong. Its becoming a Capitalist society where every thing is controlled by the monied elite. See American Medical Association, Oil interests, and Hollywood megacorps as examples A B and C.

The commies think everything should be free for everyone.

BillSelfsTrophycase
01-18-2012, 11:47 AM
Milkman had better go patent dumbass.


FYP

lcarus
01-18-2012, 11:48 AM
Actually you have that 100% wrong. Its becoming a Capitalist society where every thing is controlled by the monied elite. See American Medical Association, Oil interests, and Hollywood megacorps as examples A B and C.

The commies think everything should be free for everyone.

I just mean its turning communist in the sense that the people's voices don't matter anymore when it comes to government decisions.

Reaper16
01-18-2012, 11:50 AM
I just mean its turning communist in the sense that the people's voices don't matter anymore when it comes to government decisions.
That's not at all what Communist means.

Guru
01-18-2012, 11:52 AM
Two senators Rubio and Cornyn have just changed their stances on the bill:


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/technology/web-protests-piracy-bill-and-2-key-senators-change-course.html?hp


Freshman Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a rising Republican star, was first out of the starting gate Wednesday morning with his announcement that he would no longer back anti-Internet piracy legislation he had co-sponsored. Senator John Cornyn, the Texas Republican who heads the campaign operation for his party, quickly followed suit and urged Congress take more time to study the measure that had been set for a test vote next week.

Mr. Cornyn, just before 9 a.m, posted on his Facebook page that it was “better to get this done right rather than fast and wrong. Stealing content is theft, plain and simple, but concerns about unintended damage to the Internet and innovation in the tech sector require a more thoughtful balance, which will take more time.”
Gee,where was that thought process on the healthcare bill?

DaFace
01-18-2012, 11:56 AM
Probably not, to be honest. A GIF is such a heavily edited portion of the original film that no one would likely care.

The problem is, the way this thing is structured, all it would take is ONE COMPLAINT for the ENTIRE site to be wiped out. So, while it's pretty unlikely that anyone would file a complaint about GIFs, sites' owners would be compelled to remove stuff like that in order to protect THEMSELVES from legal trouble.

Saul Good
01-18-2012, 11:57 AM
I think TexansPlanet should join the fight and black themselves out for an indefinite period of time.

You'll be happy to know that Texans Planet is deeply committed to keeping blacks out.

DaFace
01-18-2012, 11:58 AM
That's not at all what Communist means.

I humbly suggest that this argument stop here or move elsewhere. No need to clutter up a perfectly good discussion about a definition.

ChiefsNow
01-18-2012, 11:59 AM
On the topic on Censorship, I'd just like to say █ █████ ████ ███ ████ ██ ████████ █ █████ ████ ███uckin██ ██ ███████████ ██████████ ██ ████ ████ █████ ███████ █??████ ██ █ ██████ █ ██ ███████████ █ ███████ █ ██ ████████ █ ████ █████therless███ ███████ █████ ██ ██ ██████ ███████ ███████ ███ ██ ██ ██ards█████ ██ █████ ███CKING!!!█ ███ ████ ██ ████████ █ █████ ████ ██████ ██ ███████████ ██████████ ██ ████ ████ █████ ███████ ██ght?!

Douche Baggins
01-18-2012, 12:03 PM
You'll be happy to know that Texans Planet is deeply committed to keeping blacks out.

No, we encourage members of all ethnicities to register and participate, so that we may trash them all.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 12:08 PM
That's not at all what Communist means.

I think people have lost the original meaning of "communism" because the only real-world implementations of it have resulted in totalitarianism.

Fish
01-18-2012, 12:15 PM
I think people have lost the original meaning of "communism" because the only real-world implementations of it have resulted in totalitarianism.

Yep. It may sound strange, but I still believe that Communism could be one of the most effective forms of government, if it were ever to be properly implemented...

Discuss Thrower
01-18-2012, 12:26 PM
Yep. It may sound strange, but I still believe that Communism could be one of the most effective forms of government, if it were ever to be properly implemented...

And.. you know.. human beings never acted upon their own self interests.

Demonpenz
01-18-2012, 12:27 PM
My cats name is mittens

bevischief
01-18-2012, 12:27 PM
craigslist is blacked out as well.

Pioli Zombie
01-18-2012, 12:28 PM
This generation is so soft and pussified if Hitler was around today all he'd need to do would be to knock out Comcast and take down Facebook and the whole country would surrender in tears

vailpass
01-18-2012, 12:32 PM
Hey ... the picture forum would be dead.

Some people would be happy

It would almost be worth it to get rid of the fat chick thread.
Almost.

Bearcat
01-18-2012, 12:35 PM
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http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/bearcat2002/409103_10150606857097704_648712703_11105338_689391592_n.jpg

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 12:46 PM
This generation is so soft and pussified if Hitler was around today all he'd need to do would be to knock out Comcast and take down Facebook and the whole country would surrender in tears

That's precisely what "Hitler" is trying to do, dummy.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2012, 12:53 PM
Probably not, to be honest. A GIF is such a heavily edited portion of the original film that no one would likely care.

likely?

that's just it ... if someone got pissed off for any reason they could decide to start bitching about the gifs and goodbye.

Pants
01-18-2012, 12:58 PM
Figures a socialist would pull this move. Great job America. Retards.

If you're talking about Obama, he's actually against the SOPA/PIPA, but by all means, continue being a dumbshit.

If you're talking about something else, I apologize.

Johnny Vegas
01-18-2012, 01:08 PM
If you're talking about Obama, he's actually against the SOPA/PIPA, but by all means, continue being a dumbshit.

If you're talking about something else, I apologize.

he was against the Defensive act and still signed for it. :)

Bump
01-18-2012, 01:18 PM
So some guy on my FB list asks What is this internet censorship that I've been hearing about?

then this, you guessed it, a conservative dumb bitch from Oklahoma chimes in
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO!! LIKE WHEN WE WERE KIDS AND OUR TV WASCENSORED THESE KIDS ARE EXPOSED TO WAY TO MUCH WAY TO SOON NOWADAYS!!!

of course this prompted 30 other people to chime in.

the first response from some girl:
Staci, kindly revoke your American. Citizenship.
you don't deserve to be a citizen if you truly believe that.
Dewayne, just go to Google.com and click on the blacked out banner
It ail give tougher info you need

and here comes Staci, the conservative dumb bitch

UHH EXCUSE ME YES I DO BELIEVE THAT!!! THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY!!! AND I COULD GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT THE GOVT PART!! PARENTS SHOULD HAVE A LONG DAMN TIME AGO STARTED BEING PARENTS AND CENSORING THEIR OWN CHILDREN!!! ANOTHER PROBLEM IS ACCOUNTABILITY!!

and this went on for a while

Setsuna
01-18-2012, 01:49 PM
Hold your roll there Chachi. Bill was introduced by House Judiciary Committee Chair Representative Lamar S. Smith (R-TX) and a bipartisan group of 12 initial co-sponsors.

Yet the prez didn't veto that shit. Or try to stop it. Bitch.

Pants
01-18-2012, 01:58 PM
Yet the prez didn't veto that shit. Or try to stop it. Bitch.

The move was pulled by Lamar Smith, though, wouldn't you say so? Now that you're informed, I mean.

kstater
01-18-2012, 01:59 PM
Yet the prez didn't veto that shit. Or try to stop it. Bitch.

It's been more than 10 years since HS Civics, but I'm fairly certain that he has to be presented with a passed bill in order to veto it.

Chief Faithful
01-18-2012, 02:05 PM
If you're talking about Obama, he's actually against the SOPA/PIPA, but by all means, continue being a dumbshit.

If you're talking about something else, I apologize.

Maybe he is against SOPA/PIPA, but Obama was and is actively for FCC regulatory control over the Internet. When the White House lost their case in the Supreme Court for FCC regulatory control over the Internet they pushed the FCC to redesignate the Internet as an Information Service, which the FCC does have power to regulate. Obama may not be for SOPA/PIPA, but he is all for regulatory powers from an agency that reports to him.

Pioli Zombie
01-18-2012, 02:16 PM
That's precisely what "Hitler" is trying to do, dummy.

Oh gee, I forgot, Barack Obama is just like Adolph Hitler. Oooooh, they're gonna put us on trains.

Predarat
01-18-2012, 02:18 PM
When it comes to Wikipedia 24 hours is like three weeks! But its for a good cause.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2012, 02:31 PM
Maybe he is against SOPA/PIPA, but Obama was and is actively for FCC regulatory control over the Internet. When the White House lost their case in the Supreme Court for FCC regulatory control over the Internet they pushed the FCC to redesignate the Internet as an Information Service, which the FCC does have power to regulate. Obama may not be for SOPA/PIPA, but he is all for regulatory powers from an agency that reports to him.

so your point is ... obama may not be wrong this time but i know he's wrong about other stuff?

dude ... focus

SOPA

Setsuna
01-18-2012, 02:32 PM
It's been more than 10 years since HS Civics, but I'm fairly certain that he has to be presented with a passed bill in order to veto it.

I said OR try to do anything to stop it. I prepared for an initial wrong statement jerkoff.

kstater
01-18-2012, 02:34 PM
I said OR try to do anything to stop it. I prepared for an initial wrong statement jerkoff.

So when he spoke against SOPA, he was doing nothing to stop it?

loochy
01-18-2012, 02:43 PM
So some guy on my FB list asks What is this internet censorship that I've been hearing about?

then this, you guessed it, a conservative dumb bitch from Oklahoma chimes in
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO!! LIKE WHEN WE WERE KIDS AND OUR TV WASCENSORED THESE KIDS ARE EXPOSED TO WAY TO MUCH WAY TO SOON NOWADAYS!!!

of course this prompted 30 other people to chime in.

the first response from some girl:
Staci, kindly revoke your American. Citizenship.
you don't deserve to be a citizen if you truly believe that.
Dewayne, just go to Google.com and click on the blacked out banner
It ail give tougher info you need

and here comes Staci, the conservative dumb bitch

UHH EXCUSE ME YES I DO BELIEVE THAT!!! THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY!!! AND I COULD GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT THE GOVT PART!! PARENTS SHOULD HAVE A LONG DAMN TIME AGO STARTED BEING PARENTS AND CENSORING THEIR OWN CHILDREN!!! ANOTHER PROBLEM IS ACCOUNTABILITY!!

and this went on for a while

I don't know why you have to keep emphasizing that she is conservative. I am conservative and I hate this. I lean toward personal accountability (which also implies parental accountability).

Rain Man
01-18-2012, 02:49 PM
You know that there are 300 people who have already written wikipedia entries about the wikipedia blackout, and they're all waiting with their fingers on the mouse button waiting for it to come back up so they can post it.

listopencil
01-18-2012, 02:56 PM
I used their links to send complaints to my representatives. Fuck the man, power to the people.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2012, 03:06 PM
President Barack Obama has stepped in and said he would not support the bill.

SOPA has been delayed, for now. The House has agreed to revisit the issue next month, but they now know the White House will veto any bill that’s not more narrowly focused.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/01/16/obama-says-so-long-sopa-killing-controversial-internet-piracy-legislation/

Setsuna
01-18-2012, 03:09 PM
So when he spoke against SOPA, he was doing nothing to stop it?

No you degenerate. Speaking doesn't do shit. Which is all he actually does. That's how he got elected. He had no experience and talked his way in. Actions speak louder than words. Congress can't care less what he says. IDIOT.

kstater
01-18-2012, 03:10 PM
President Barack Obama has stepped in and said he would not support the bill.

SOPA has been delayed, for now. The House has agreed to revisit the issue next month, but they now know the White House will veto any bill that’s not more narrowly focused.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/01/16/obama-says-so-long-sopa-killing-controversial-internet-piracy-legislation/

No you ingrate. Speaking doesn't do shit. Which is all he actually does. That's how he got elected. He had no experience and talked his way in. Actions speak louder than words. Congress can't care less what he says. IDIOT.

Interesting theories.

Smed1065
01-18-2012, 03:12 PM
Probably not, to be honest. A GIF is such a heavily edited portion of the original film that no one would likely care.

Thats why the copyright is there... Cause they hate money. And Jeff.

See the do not match. Bring it ass.

Huffmeister
01-18-2012, 03:14 PM
Given the attention that huge internet sites like Google, Wikipedia, Reddit, Craigslist, etc have given to the issue, and the handy-dandy links these sites are giving people to contact their representatives, I wonder how many emails Congress has received today. I bet it's more than they've received for any other issue.

And given the fact that it's an election year, I'm hoping that the massive negative feedback will scare them to the point that these bills are DOA.

Kudos to the big sites for the coordinated effort.

kstater
01-18-2012, 03:15 PM
Given the attention that huge internet sites like Google, Wikipedia, Reddit, Craigslist, etc have given to the issue, and the handy-dandy links these sites are giving people to contact their representatives, I wonder how many emails Congress has received today. I bet it's more than they've received for any other issue.

And given the fact that it's an election year, I'm hoping that the massive negative feedback will scare them to the point that these bills are DOA.

Kudos to the big sites for the coordinated effort.

I think you underestimate how lazy this country is.

alnorth
01-18-2012, 03:17 PM
No you degenerate. Speaking doesn't do shit. Which is all he actually does. That's how he got elected. He had no experience and talked his way in. Actions speak louder than words. Congress can't care less what he says. IDIOT.

There's this thing that presidents do, which you may not be aware of. Its called a veto threat.

Every president does it, the veto threat is very important, and its better they do a veto threat rather than say nothing, because it gets the congress to think "woops, this wont get signed. Lets see what he wants, maybe we can amend this".

Veto threats involve a president doing nothing but talk, but they matter a very great deal in crafting legislation, unless congress has a veto-proof majority behind a bill.

Guru
01-18-2012, 03:17 PM
I think you underestimate how lazy this country is.

Yep. thats what concerns me.

Setsuna
01-18-2012, 03:19 PM
There's this thing that presidents do, which you may not be aware of. Its called a veto threat.

Every president does it, the veto threat is very important, and its better they do a veto threat rather than say nothing, because it gets the congress to think "woops, this wont get signed. Lets see what he wants, maybe we can amend this".

Veto threats involve a president doing nothing but talk, but they matter a very great deal in crafting legislation, unless congress has a veto-proof majority behind a bill.
:banghead: I just got served. :cuss:

Fish
01-18-2012, 04:03 PM
Some really good points in this article...

http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2012/01/what-i-wish-wikipedia-and-othe.php

What I wish Wikipedia (and others) were saying: "Today, we're going to an extreme to notify the public of bills that threaten the Internet. We're doing so because this was the only way to get your attention. The mainstream news media was not going to tell you about SOPA or PIPA. Many of your elected officials want to push through harmful legislation because their supporters demand it, and they know you're unlikely to hold them accountable. It's vitally important to stop SOPA or PIPA from passing, but what's even more important is that you start paying attention and demand better from your government. Even if we stop SOPA, the larger problem continues. Tomorrow we're going to go back to business as usual, but it's up to you whether Congress does."

Douche Baggins
01-18-2012, 04:11 PM
Demonoid.me is down, too.

The internet is rallying!

Guru
01-18-2012, 04:13 PM
Some really good points in this article...

http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2012/01/what-i-wish-wikipedia-and-othe.php

what a great quote

Bump
01-18-2012, 04:39 PM
I think you underestimate how lazy this country is.

ya, 50 years ago, if the government was doing the shit they do today, the people would have banded together and started another civil war. What a bunch of lazy pussies we all are.

Discuss Thrower
01-18-2012, 04:44 PM
ya, 50 years ago, if the government was doing the shit they do today, the people would have banded together and started another civil war. What a bunch of lazy pussies we all are.

People's reaction to the Wilson era Alien and Sedition acts sez otherwise.

loochy
01-18-2012, 05:09 PM
People's reaction to the Wilson era Alien and Sedition acts sez otherwise.

look at you with your fancy history and stuff

BigRichard
01-18-2012, 05:09 PM
It's basically the Patriot act for the internet

If the government doesn't like a website there will be an excuse to shut it down.

Carte blanche

the RIAA/MPAA will use it to shut down every torrent and streaming site on the web.

Then the it will be a legal 'BAN HAMMER' for anytime a website pisses someone off.

So what you are saying is the government will become the Phobia of the web?

Caseyguyrr
01-18-2012, 06:33 PM
damn that sucks. I was just getting ready to plagiarize a paper from wikipedia.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 07:17 PM
There's this thing that presidents do, which you may not be aware of. Its called a veto threat.

Every president does it, the veto threat is very important, and its better they do a veto threat rather than say nothing, because it gets the congress to think "woops, this wont get signed. Lets see what he wants, maybe we can amend this".

Veto threats involve a president doing nothing but talk, but they matter a very great deal in crafting legislation, unless congress has a veto-proof majority behind a bill.

Except he won't. He's all for this kind of stuff.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 07:19 PM
Oh gee, I forgot, Barack Obama is just like Adolph Hitler. Oooooh, they're gonna put us on trains.

I didn't say ANYTHING about the president, you did.

htismaqe
01-18-2012, 07:20 PM
President Barack Obama has stepped in and said he would not support the bill.

SOPA has been delayed, for now. The House has agreed to revisit the issue next month, but they now know the White House will veto any bill that’s not more narrowly focused.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/01/16/obama-says-so-long-sopa-killing-controversial-internet-piracy-legislation/

Interesting that he waited until Congress couldn't pass it anyway and now he's suddenly on the side of popular opinion.

-King-
01-18-2012, 07:23 PM
I just realized how much I use wikipedia. Holy shit! Point well proven Mr. Wikipedia guy. Point well proven.

Dick Bull
01-18-2012, 07:29 PM
Yet the prez didn't veto that shit. Or try to stop it. Bitch.

How is he to veto something not on his desk? You do know how laws are made right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-eYBZFEzf8
Maybe this will help.

Although I disagree with him not saying anything before now, I can't really see how this is on his lap.

Perhaps you should examine the facts objectively, before making such a determination.

AustinChief
01-18-2012, 07:48 PM
http://www.hellofax.com/StopSOPA

Fill out the form and send your reps/senators a fax. Only takes a few seconds

ChiefsNow
01-19-2012, 12:50 AM
http://www.hellofax.com/StopSOPA

Fill out the form and send your reps/senators a fax. Only takes a few seconds


I sent a fax. thanks AustinChief.

I signed the other petition too.

What scares the hell out of me is if it were not for the internet, I wouldn't even know about this shit. I don't even read newspapers and I'm not alone. The world has changed a lot and many people don't have landlines anymore, just cell phones. ( they track whatever they want of cell phones) The people should get together to stop that shit too.

If they get their way , alot of the people would not know about laws being pushed through on the sneaky.

There are alot of laws on the books now that I wish the people had a say in it.

Too much sneaky shit going on. We should be able to vote online for or against every fucking law that is being voted on that is not homeland security issues.

I am not democrat or republican and don't really understand the difference because I never see any difference no matter who is in office.
I think it's a big smokescreen.

I think all laws should be voted on by the people. This is possible with the internet.

Guru
01-19-2012, 01:00 AM
I sent a fax. thanks AustinChief.

I signed the other petition too.

What scares the hell out of me is if it were not for the internet, I wouldn't even know about this shit. I don't even read newspapers and I'm not alone. The world has changed a lot and many people don't have landlines anymore, just cell phones. ( they track whatever they want of cell phones) The people should get together to stop that shit too.

If they get their way , alot of the people would not know about laws being pushed through on the sneaky.

There are alot of laws on the books now that I wish the people had a say in it.

Too much sneaky shit going on. We should be able to vote online for or against every ****ing law that is being voted on that is not homeland security issues.

I am not democrat or republican and don't really understand the difference because I never see any difference no matter who is in office.
I think it's a big smokescreen.

I think all laws should be voted on by the people. This is possible with the internet.

Oh but you do have a say. Just contact your congressman and they will listen.








LMAO

Yeah, I don't believe that either.

htismaqe
01-19-2012, 06:43 AM
Oh but you do have a say. Just contact your congressman and they will listen.

LMAO

Yeah, I don't believe that either.

That really depends. A long-time Congressman here got my Grandfather-in-law's medical procedure paid for at the VA after the VA "misinterpreted" his veteran's benefit.

Of course, it was an election year and he wanted my GFIL to agree to vote for him.

ChiefsNow
01-21-2012, 07:16 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EwE6_EgsHHU/TxiNrxVVBqI/AAAAAAAAA0o/SBJGCKJY-DA/s1600/sopa.jpg



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