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Okie_Apparition
01-19-2012, 11:28 AM
By Bill Williamson
ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper is offering his first mock draft in an Insider piece. Letís check out his first-round picks for the AFC West teams:

11. Kansas City: Penn State defensive tackle Devon Still

My take: I wouldnít have a huge problem with the Chiefsí starting the Romeo Crennel head-coaching era with a dominant man up front. This defense is one or two players from being dominant. Iím just not convinced Still is going to be a game changer. I think the Chiefs would be tempted to take Stanford tackle Jonathan Martin at this spot. Thatís a need area.

18. San Diego: Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia

My take: The offensive line may be an area of immediate need if guard Kris Dielman, tackle Marcus McNeill and center Nick Hardwick donít come back. So, this selection makes sense. But there is also a chance the offensive line question will be answered by the draft. If so, the Chargers would look for defense help early.

25. Denver: Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State

My take: I could see this happening. I think Cox will be a player Denver looks at and the way Kiperís first round falls, this pick makes sense. Denver has long been looking for help in the middle of the defensive line and this pick would further build an improving unit.

Oakland traded its first-round pick (No. 17) to Cincinnati as part of the trade for quarterback Carson Palmer. Tags:Oakland Raiders

Okie_Apparition
01-19-2012, 11:29 AM
He doesn't even say what postion this Noe Body plays. The one he projects the Raiders to select :shrug:

DJ's left nut
01-19-2012, 12:13 PM
Don't like Still in our defense at all. A) Too tall and B) has those 'effort' and 'consistency' flags that lead to a lot of DTs busting out.

I don't mind rolling the dice in the 2nd or 3rd on a player like that because a lot of DTs have that issue - throwing numbers at the position can solve the problem. But throwing 1st rounders at that kind of player has only kicked us in the dick about 5 times over the last 10 years; I'm not interested in a repeat performance.

Mediocre fit in our defense, mediocre performance at college, questions concerning his work ethic and a ceiling that is good, but not great. Nah, not even a little bit interested in this guy at 12.

Direckshun
01-19-2012, 12:46 PM
Don't like Still in our defense at all. A) Too tall and B) has those 'effort' and 'consistency' flags that lead to a lot of DTs busting out.

I don't mind rolling the dice in the 2nd or 3rd on a player like that because a lot of DTs have that issue - throwing numbers at the position can solve the problem. But throwing 1st rounders at that kind of player has only kicked us in the dick about 5 times over the last 10 years; I'm not interested in a repeat performance.

Mediocre fit in our defense, mediocre performance at college, questions concerning his work ethic and a ceiling that is good, but not great. Nah, not even a little bit interested in this guy at 12.

He's not too tall to play DE.

He is absolutely NOT a two-gapping nose tackle. I really don't know why Kiper assigned him to us. We're three deep at DE, four deep if we resign Gilberry.

Nightfyre
01-19-2012, 03:05 PM
Don't like Still in our defense at all. A) Too tall and B) has those 'effort' and 'consistency' flags that lead to a lot of DTs busting out.

I don't mind rolling the dice in the 2nd or 3rd on a player like that because a lot of DTs have that issue - throwing numbers at the position can solve the problem. But throwing 1st rounders at that kind of player has only kicked us in the dick about 5 times over the last 10 years; I'm not interested in a repeat performance.

Mediocre fit in our defense, mediocre performance at college, questions concerning his work ethic and a ceiling that is good, but not great. Nah, not even a little bit interested in this guy at 12.
His build is prototypical for a 5-tech DE. Not sure where you are coming from on this one...

DJ's left nut
01-19-2012, 03:41 PM
His build is prototypical for a 5-tech DE. Not sure where you are coming from on this one...

I get the impression that Kiper's mocking him as a NT, not a 5-tech.

Besides, as much as it pains me to say it, Jackson has become a starting caliber player. Dorsey is as well. If Kiper thinks we're targeting STill, i believe he has us targeting him as a 0.

He's too tall to keep consistent leverage as a 0, IMO.

whoman69
01-19-2012, 03:54 PM
For their first round pick the Raiders went to the way back machine and selected Carson Palmer. Results of the trip are questionable at best.

Saul Good
01-19-2012, 03:58 PM
No way do we draft a defensive lineman unless it's a 0?

BossChief
01-19-2012, 05:08 PM
Kiper must have been drunk.

That would be a terrible pick

dannybcaitlyn
01-19-2012, 06:35 PM
No to another defensive tackle with our first pick.

BigMeatballDave
01-19-2012, 08:55 PM
Kiper LMAO

NJChiefsFan
01-19-2012, 09:53 PM
He doesn't even say what postion this Noe Body plays. The one he projects the Raiders to select :shrug:

Haha. I didn't read the other AFC West picks, read the first sentence of this post, and then went and looked to see why he didn't say the position. Only THEN did I realize and put together why Noe is such a weird first name.:redface:

Dayze
01-19-2012, 10:06 PM
Sweet another first round d lineman. We're really good at picking those

rtmike
01-27-2012, 05:23 PM
Not all the AFC W teams are shown?

Oh wait...nevermind. LMAO

Frankie
01-27-2012, 09:51 PM
Is Devon Still related to Art Still, perchance?

Bump
01-27-2012, 10:51 PM
that sort of pick would take at least 3 years off of our lives. I'm ALL for drafting a RT, I think it's our biggest weakness (besides castle) and it's not a worthless position like you idiots think it is. Martin would be A. OK. with me.

whoman69
01-28-2012, 07:57 PM
Is Devon Still related to Art Still, perchance?

Cousins.

Would be a bad pick that doesn't fit our system.

Frankie
01-28-2012, 08:51 PM
Cousins.

Would be a bad pick that doesn't fit our system.

I remember Art was lean and lanky and light weight for his position. Albeit he was a very good player.