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Chiefnj2
01-24-2012, 01:51 PM
Probably a repost since I don't venture in here too often:

Senator Lamar Smith, lead sponsor of the currently dead SOPA bill you’ve heard so much about, has another bill in the works that uses Child Pornography as a screen to push through an amendment that’ll have your internet service provider tracking all of your financial dealings online. Each time you use a credit card, each time you read your bank statement, all of your IP information and your search history will be required by your ISP to be stored for 18 months at all times. This bill is H.R. 1981 and will have more dire consequences than SOPA or PIPA ever had the potential to have.

What it does is to amend several rules that have to do with Child Pornography and preventing it, the bill itself called the “Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011.” What it also does is to change the U.S. code Chapter 18 section 2703 Required Disclosure of Customer Communications or Records to include a requirement that your internet service provider do the following:

A commercial provider of an electronic communication service shall retain for a period of at least one year a log of the temporarily assigned network addresses the provider assigns to a subscriber to or customer of such service that enables the identification of the corresponding customer or subscriber information under subsection (c)(2) of this section.

While it was legal for the government to issue a subpoena for the viewing of the information they speak about here before, it was not part of the law that internet service providers capture or retain that information at any point. In effect, while before the authorities would need to first find a reason for you to need to be watched to get the ISP to start collecting information from you, that information will already exist on file, effectively meaning you’re being watched and recorded even if you’ve done nothing wrong.

Don’t worry though, there’s an additional set of lines that should placate you because it’s so very kind of them to think of:

(1) to encourage electronic communication service providers to give prompt notice to their customers in the event of a breach of the data retained pursuant to section 2703(h) of title 18 of the United States Code, in order that those effected can take the necessary steps to protect themselves from potential misuse of private information; and

(2) that records retained pursuant to section 2703(h) of title 18, United States Code, should be stored securely to protect customer privacy and prevent against breaches of the records.

So don’t worry, your information will be “stored securely” so noone else can access it! But if they do access it, your ISP will give you “prompt notice” so you can change all your credit card numbers, hide your kids, hide your wife, and hide your husband. This bill has currently cleared its committee, this meaning that the next step is a full vote. This bill needs to be stopped, and if I might go one better, Lamar Smith needs to be stopped, for the good of the internet and YOUR privacy.

http://www.slashgear.com/sopa-sponsor-has-another-internet-bill-that-records-you-247-20210264/

BucEyedPea
01-24-2012, 01:58 PM
Do you have a link for that?

Chiefnj2
01-24-2012, 02:05 PM
Just google HR 1981 and you'll find hundreds of articles.

BucEyedPea
01-24-2012, 02:08 PM
Actually I already did and usually do. What I want to know is all that your own words or from an article? If the latter, you have to put the link to it.

La literatura
01-24-2012, 02:11 PM
Actually I already did and usually do. What I want to know is all that your own words or from an article? If the latter, you have to put the link to it.

You usually tell people to search through all your posts when you've supposedly covered a topic. Nice to see your demands are more about your own convenience than any principle.

That said, link please.

KILLER_CLOWN
01-24-2012, 02:14 PM
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1981

BucEyedPea
01-24-2012, 02:18 PM
You usually tell people to search through all your posts when you've supposedly covered a topic. Nice to see your demands are more about your own convenience than any principle.

That said, link please.

Once again, you are twisting my words to suit your antagonism like you did when you falsely claimed my referencing the RCC or Pope being the anti-Christ when I said it was something the anti-Christ would like.

In this case, you are mixing the wrong the category of thing—apples and oranges—since you are mis-using what I said when telling others to research something. I asked if this was an actual article or his "own words". If it's someone else's article aka actual words, and not a paraphrase he needs to source it. I won't even begin to reference copyright issues. Neither are the same thing as making a claim with someone asking for a link. Two different things.

Nice to see your critical thinking and reading skills are what they are.<—this is return snark for your own snarky attitude.

LOGIC FAIL.

KILLER_CLOWN
01-24-2012, 02:20 PM
Once again, you are twisting my words to suit your antagonism like you did when you falsely claimed my referencing the RCC or Pope being the anti-Christ when I said it was something the anti-Christ would like.

In this case, you are mixing the wrong the category of thing—apples and oranges—since you are mis-using what I said when telling others to research something. I asked if this was an actual article or his "own words". If it's someone else's article aka actual words, and not a paraphrase he needs to source it. I won't even begin to reference copyright issues.

Nice to see your critical thinking and reading skills are what they are.<—this is return snark for your own attitude.

LOGIC FAIL.

The Pope is in the office of the False prophet, not the AntiChrist. ;)

BucEyedPea
01-24-2012, 02:22 PM
The Pope is in the office of the False prophet, not the AntiChrist. ;)

Well, I never called the Pope the anti christ for starters. That's what I was admonishing him for. He does things like that. BTW is anti christ actually capitalized. He gets that much respect?

KILLER_CLOWN
01-24-2012, 02:25 PM
Well, I never called the Pope the anti christ for starters. That's what I was admonishing him for. He does things like that. BTW is anti christ actually capitalized. He gets that much respect?

If it's a proper name it is, like THE AntiChrist fulfillment as opposed to many antiChrists.

BucEyedPea
01-24-2012, 03:04 PM
If it's a proper name it is, like THE AntiChrist fulfillment as opposed to many antiChrists.

Yeah, it is a proper noun but I don't think he is deserving of initial caps is all.