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Deberg_1990
02-07-2012, 06:33 AM
I thought it kicked a$$!!


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(CBS News) A leading Republican says one of the commercials from the Super Bowl is a quiet political endorsement for President Obama.


Karl Rove, former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, saw the Clint Eastwood Chrysler "It's Halftime in America" ad as political payback from the auto industry to President Obama.


"I was, frankly, offended by it," Rove told Fox News. "The president of the United States and his political minions are, in essence, using our tax dollars to buy corporate advertising and the best wishes of the management, which is benefited by getting a bunch of our money that they'll never pay back."


However, other people have a different view of the ad.


In a radio interview, Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said, "I thought that it was pro-American." He added, "I know Clint personally. I can assure you he did not make a pro-Obama ad."


That's something Clint Eastwood confirmed, telling a Fox News producer, "I am not affiliated with Mr. Obama and the commercial was about job growth and the spirit of America."


The chief executive officer of Chrysler denies that there was any political motivation here.


The bailout of Chrysler began during the Bush administration with $4 billion. Another $8.5 billion was added during the Obama administration for a total of $12.5 billion. About 90 percent of that amount was paid back.


However, this may be a political football for the foreseeable future, Reid observed on "CBS This Morning."


Charlie Rose said, "The president and his team clearly believe the bailout is a very big plus for them because the president mentions it all the time and so does his staff. I assume we'll see a lot more during the campaign."

"Absolutely," Reid said. "It fits in nicely with the fundamental campaign message which Biden summed up as 'Bin Laden is dead and GM' -- or in this case Chrysler -- 'is very much alive.'"


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505266_162-57372377/eastwood-super-bowl-ad-raises-karl-rove-ire/

blaise
02-07-2012, 07:05 AM
I could see how you might think that, if you were trying to see it that way. I didn't take it that way. I just took it as an American Spirit kind of thing.
I didn't care much about it either way, though. I never liked the, "Buy American cars because it's patriotic," kind of thing. If you want me to buy your car, build a good car that lasts and sell it at a good price.

oldandslow
02-07-2012, 07:08 AM
It was a good commericial. I don't know if it was politically motivated or not - but in the end it isn't gonna matter. I would bet the farm that BO wins a second term. The republicans had the perfect storm and are in the middle of blowing it all by themselves. With apologies to Karl Rove, of course.

Mr. Kotter
02-07-2012, 07:30 AM
It was a good commericial. I don't know if it was politically motivated or not - but in the end it isn't gonna matter. I would bet the farm that BO wins a second term. The republicans had the perfect storm and are in the middle of blowing it all by themselves. With apologies to Karl Rove, of course.

THIS

kcfanXIII
02-07-2012, 07:32 AM
the last time this country listened to karl rove, we ended up in a a war, looking for wmd that didn't exist. some people just need to swallow their cyanide capsule already...

La literatura
02-07-2012, 07:46 AM
When placed in the context of the election, it is very positive-Obama. It puts the bailouts into great light (see, this wasn't about Marxism, but about saving America's economy) and encourages a second half, or a second term, for the current adminstration.

Deberg_1990
02-07-2012, 07:50 AM
When placed in the context of the election, it is very positive-Obama. It puts the bailouts into great light (see, this wasn't about Marxism, but about saving America's economy) and encourages a second half, or a second term, for the current adminstration.

yea, i pretty much agree. It was unintentially pro Obama.

I believe Eastwood is a conservative?

La literatura
02-07-2012, 07:53 AM
yea, i pretty much agree. It was unintentially pro Obama.

I believe Eastwood is a conservative?

“I’ve always been very liberal when it comes to people thinking for themselves,” said Eastwood, who supports gay marriage, abortion rights and environmental protection. “But I’m a big hawk on cutting the deficit. I was against the stimulus thing too. We shouldn’t be bailing out the banks and car companies. If a CEO can’t figure out how to make his company profitable, then he shouldn’t be the CEO.”

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/11/clint-eastwood-talks-politics-whos-the-one-democrat-that-he-voted-for.html

Mr. Kotter
02-07-2012, 07:53 AM
yea, i pretty much agree. It was unintentially pro Obama.

I believe Eastwood is a conservative?

Eastwood may be conservative, but he understands the tea party would take us over the cliff.

mlyonsd
02-07-2012, 07:57 AM
It doesn't matter if it was politically motivated or not. STFU Rove. You look like a whiner.

Mr. Kotter
02-07-2012, 07:58 AM
It doesn't matter if it was politically motivated or not. STFU Rove. You look like a whiner.

He fits in in his party quite well, at the moment. :)

cookster50
02-07-2012, 08:01 AM
I didn't take it as a political statement and think anyone that did/does can shove a rusty pitchfork up their collective rears. That is all.

Radar Chief
02-07-2012, 08:10 AM
In a radio interview, Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said, "I thought that it was pro-American." He added, "I know Clint personally. I can assure you he did not make a pro-Obama ad."

^This sounds about right.

KC Dan
02-07-2012, 10:45 AM
Eastwood may be conservative, but he understands the tea party would take us over the cliff.did he tell you he thought this way or is this your educator-ness making a tall leap?

fan4ever
02-07-2012, 11:17 AM
He should have been doing an ad for Ford; who didn't take a bail out.

Using "Detroit" as an example of the American spirit made me spit out my beer.

vailpass
02-07-2012, 11:19 AM
THIS

Keep hope alive

listopencil
02-07-2012, 01:48 PM
It was a commercial for a car company, but that was Clint Eastwood saying some things that he strongly believes in. I believe that to Clint it was about our country and our people. Not any particular politician. Take it as you will.

vailpass
02-07-2012, 02:38 PM
Would be cool to see Dirty Harry and obama square off old-school like.

Iowanian
02-07-2012, 04:48 PM
4 years down.....halftime....4 more years?


It could be.


I liked the overall message but at the time it did seem like a somewhat subtle political message.

mlyonsd
02-07-2012, 05:33 PM
Maybe Chrysler would have spent their money better donating the dollars for the spot back to the taxpayers that bailed them out.

wazu
02-07-2012, 05:37 PM
I personally really loved the ad. Seemed unifying to me.

NewChief
02-07-2012, 05:39 PM
After watching that Ad... I'm voting Obama. Thanks for setting things straight in my mind, Dirty Harry.

wazu
02-07-2012, 05:40 PM
Maybe Chrysler would have spent their money better donating the dollars for the spot back to the taxpayers that bailed them out.

No. They wouldn't. I completely opposed the bailout, but now that it's done I want Chrysler to compete in the marketplace. They ran a good ad that most people absolutely loved, and made an emotional connection to "buy American" as well. Very well done by them.

dirk digler
02-07-2012, 05:40 PM
It was a commercial for a car company, but that was Clint Eastwood saying some things that he strongly believes in. I believe that to Clint it was about our country and our people. Not any particular politician. Take it as you will.

You are obviously right except for the stupid people that think this was some kind of political ad. And if Rove is offended maybe he should stick a gun in his mouth and blow his head off.

Plus it is not like they didn't have a somewhat similar ad last year with Eminem..

Pioli Zombie
02-07-2012, 07:15 PM
When there is a commercial talking about something good in America when a Republican is President its "Patriotic". When a Democrat is President its "Political"

mlyonsd
02-07-2012, 07:29 PM
When there is a commercial talking about something good in America when a Republican is President its "Patriotic". When a Democrat is President its "Political"When a company wants to make a statement for monetary gain I say go for it. When they do it with my tax money I say fuck you.

Ugly Duck
02-07-2012, 09:41 PM
I believe Eastwood is a conservative?

Yeah he is. But he's also very smart - those qualities don't go together very often. I've met him a coupla times & he has a presence that transcends stardom. Nobody mistakes him for a dumby. He knows the Teapeople are whack & doesn't cotton to the radicalism that now passes for "conservative." He knows its silly to pretend that rescuing the auto industry was bad for the country. Dude is a conservative in the mold of Ronald Reagan - what Teapeople now call "Marxist Socialism."

if Rove is offended maybe he should stick a gun in his mouth and blow his head off.



Rove neglected to say that he was in the Bush Whitehouse during a $4 billion auto industry bailout. When Repulis do it, its good economic sense. When Dems do it, its Marxist communist totalitarian dictator stomping on Mom & apple pie.

Chiefshrink
02-07-2012, 11:52 PM
IMO Clint meant well. But by not knowing and recognizing Marxist collective propaganda speak from 'true conservatism' he unfortunately fell prey to savvy Progressive/Marxist writers ultimately linked to the Obama re-election campaign which will never be proven of course. But it was so obvious because of the 'collective stink' it created.

And I'm sure Clint is rather embarrassed for not recognizing the manipulation of the Left by attempting to use his persona to reach out to all the "Gran Torino guys"(angry white males) in an attempt to "just all get along" by passing these tax increases and spend more $$:rolleyes:

|Zach|
02-07-2012, 11:54 PM
I could see how you might think that, if you were trying to see it that way.

exactly.

Dave Lane
02-08-2012, 12:01 AM
IMO Clint meant well. But by not knowing and recognizing Marxist collective propaganda speak from 'true conservatism' he unfortunately fell prey to savvy Progressive/Marxist writers ultimately linked to the Obama re-election campaign which will never be proven of course. But it was so obvious because of the 'collective stink' it created.

And I'm sure Clint is rather embarrassed for not recognizing the manipulation of the Left by attempting to use his persona to reach out to all the "Gran Torino guys"(angry white males) in an attempt to "just all get along" by passing these tax increases and spend more $$:rolleyes:

You really are insane aren't you?

Chiefshrink
02-08-2012, 12:09 AM
Yeah he is. But he's also very smart - those qualities don't go together very often. I've met him a coupla times & he has a presence that transcends stardom. Nobody mistakes him for a dumby. He knows the Teapeople are whack & doesn't cotton to the radicalism that now passes for "conservative." He knows its silly to pretend that rescuing the auto industry was bad for the country. Dude is a conservative in the mold of Ronald Reagan - what Teapeople now call "Marxist Socialism.

Ugly my man, you have no idea what you are talking about. :rolleyes: If he really truly said the Tea Party is whacked and that the auto industry needed rescued then he is a RINO and not a true conservative !! The unions got rescued not the auto industry is what you fail to see. No way in hell Reagan rescues the unions,whoops I mean the auto industry as you say.

Chiefshrink
02-08-2012, 12:15 AM
You really are insane aren't you?

Look in the mirror Dave:shrug:

orange
02-08-2012, 02:34 PM
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blaise
02-08-2012, 02:36 PM
Weird, looks like orange linked to the Huff Post.

Go Chiefs.

fan4ever
02-08-2012, 05:59 PM
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We Report, You Decide

Oh, is that the marshmellow launcher I heard about?

At first I figured it was a wallet sucking machine...

scott free
02-10-2012, 05:32 PM
I personally really loved the ad. Seemed unifying to me.

Same here, too bad it doesnt change one degree of the polarization in this country.

Right now, this country reminds me of Mark Levins tag line... I'm RIGHT and you're WRONG!

Compromise is the dirtiest of words, its all or nothing.

go bowe
02-10-2012, 05:33 PM
Same here, too bad it doesnt change one degree of the polarization in this country.

Right now, this country reminds me of Mark Levins tag line... Im RIGHT and you're WRONG!

Compromise is the dirtiest of words, its all or nothing.

it's been more or less nothing, unfortunately...

i'm old enough to remember guys like gerry ford who were practically magicians in the art of compromise...

even crusty old bob dole could get a deal done with those devil democrats...

today's party leadership in congress is so far apart they can barely piss on each other now...

and imo they are equally batty...

scott free
02-10-2012, 06:15 PM
it's been more or less nothing, unfortunately...

i'm old enough to remember guys like gerry ford who were practically magicians in the art of compromise...

even crusty old bob dole could get a deal done with those devil democrats...

today's party leadership in congress is so far apart they can barely piss on each other now...

and imo they are equally batty...

In a broader sense, i've seen it manifest itself in the general attitude of todays population... people are pushier, ruder, more full of self, feel more entitled and feel less empathy than i can ever remember... on the road, at the grocery store, in the bar, online, its all about me, Me, ME!

As far as the politicians go, i agree, they sleep in the same bed but just tell different lies.

Extra Point
02-12-2012, 05:19 PM
Chrysler sucks now, and has for the past 30+ years. The walking dead must finally go to rest.