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Deberg_1990
02-13-2012, 06:42 AM
WTH???



When 5,700 fifth-grade boys in Dallas' public schools recently went to see a movie about black fighter pilots in World War II, the girls stayed in school and saw a different movie instead.

One of the pilots is among those asking why.

A spokesman for the Dallas Independent School District said officials took only boys to see "Red Tails" Thursday because space at the movie theater was limited. Jon Dahlander told The Dallas Morning News that leaders of the district also thought boys would enjoy the movie more than girls.

"Red Tails" tells the story of the Tuskegee Airmen, the legendary pilots during World War II who become the first black aviators to serve in the U.S. military. The movie opened last month.

Some female students were shown a different movie instead: "Akeelah and the Bee," about an 11-year-old girl who competes in a national spelling bee.

Dahlander, who did not return several phone messages from The Associated Press, told the newspaper that the district often holds gender-specific events.

"It's not out of the ordinary," Dahlander said.

But an original Tuskegee Airman and others questioned why everyone didn't get to see the same movie. Herbert Carter, who flew 77 missions in World War II with only one crash landing, said he was "almost speechless."

"I've heard everything else," said Carter, 94, in a phone interview. "This is the first time I've heard that it was unfit for female students."

Carter's wife of nearly 70 years, Mildred, who died in October, became the first black woman in Alabama to hold a private pilot's license, their son Kurt Carter said.

But while Herbert Carter trained at Alabama's Tuskegee Institute and went on to serve, Mildred Carter was barred by the military from flying, Kurt Carter said. She would go on to fly privately for decades after the war, he said.

"My wife would turn flip flops," Herbert Carter said. "She thought that all human beings were equal, regardless of sex, race, creed or color. She would take great offense to young women being denied this (opportunity)."

The Tuskegee Airmen were not allowed to fight alongside their white counterparts. They earned respect for their success in escorting bombers during the war and distinguished themselves by painting the tails of their planes red.

The airmen were given the Congressional Gold Medal in 2007 by President George W. Bush and were invited to attend President Barack Obama's 2009 inauguration. Obama screened "Red Tails" at the White House in January.

The field trip to see "Red Tails" cost Dallas schools about $57,000, which came from federal funds for low-income students, the newspaper reported.

Lisa Maatz, public policy director for the American Association of University Women, which advocates for gender equity in education, said news of the field trip showed "stereotypes are alive and well."

"Part of what we did here was show the girls they weren't as valuable," she said. "That's not a lesson that we want to teach our children."

Ana Rios, 11, a fifth-grader at Nathan Adams Elementary School in Dallas, said she wanted to see "Red Tails" especially since she had already seen, "Akeelah and the Bee." She planned to watch the movie on her own.

"We are learning African-American history, and it would be a great movie to see," she said.

Lucasfilm, the company founded by "Star Wars" creator George Lucas, produced the movie. In a statement, Lucasfilm said it did not know about the Dallas screening and declined to comment, "other than to say that we want all students boys and girls to enjoy 'Red Tails.'"

BigRichard
02-13-2012, 06:56 AM
Lucasfilm could have got huge pub out of this if they would have sent some some guys down and did free screenings for all of the females. Otherwise I think this is probably a dumb story that is just gonna get blown out of proportion. They stated they had other events where they split up the gender. I can't really get all that worked up over it.

blaise
02-13-2012, 07:01 AM
The girls watched Akeelah and the Bee. Is it based on actual events or something?

Deberg_1990
02-13-2012, 07:19 AM
Lucasfilm could have got huge pub out of this if they would have sent some some guys down and did free screenings for all of the females. Otherwise I think this is probably a dumb story that is just gonna get blown out of proportion. They stated they had other events where they split up the gender. I can't really get all that worked up over it.

Im just not a big fan of gender specific events. Boys can watch Aklee and the Bee and girls can watch Red Tails just fine and enjoy them. The school district is enforcing sterotypes.

Mr. Plow
02-13-2012, 07:34 AM
Eh. This is going to get blown out of proportion.

blaise
02-13-2012, 07:35 AM
Most of the commentary I heard around the Dallas area was about the cost of it, and not the gender thing.

Fritz88
02-13-2012, 07:44 AM
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La literatura
02-13-2012, 07:45 AM
. . . space at the movie theater was limited. Jon Dahlander told The Dallas Morning News that leaders of the district also thought boys would enjoy the movie more than girls.


That's rational. But, why are schools shipping kids to the movie theater during school hours? If there need be a field trip, aren't there museums available?

htismaqe
02-13-2012, 07:47 AM
Im just not a big fan of gender specific events. Boys can watch Aklee and the Bee and girls can watch Red Tails just fine and enjoy them. The school district is enforcing sterotypes.

That spelling bee movie has been out for what, a decade?

It's not just about enforcing stereotypes, it's about the blatant unfairness, financially, of it all.

The boy get a private screening of an "in theaters now" movie. The girls get to sit in their classroom and watch a movie most of them have probably already seen on a 32" AV cart...

Dave Lane
02-13-2012, 07:49 AM
They were lucky. I watched it. Truly one of the most horrible movies in history. Ghastly doesn't begin to describe it.

FAX
02-13-2012, 07:51 AM
The only thing left for us to do is speculate. And, by God, that's what we do best.

It could well be that the title, "Red Tails" was the tipping point. Experienced school administrators are well aware that, often times, young men will refer to a young, high school girl as a "Red Tail" after thigh-slapping the bitch ho for 20 minutes, or longer.

FAX

bobbything
02-13-2012, 07:59 AM
That's rational. But, why are schools shipping kids to the movie theater during school hours? If there need be a field trip, aren't there museums available?
We saw Schindler's List during school hours. Well, most of my classmates saw Schindler's List during school hours. I watched Naked Gun 33 1/3 in the next theater.

blaise
02-13-2012, 08:08 AM
That's rational. But, why are schools shipping kids to the movie theater during school hours? If there need be a field trip, aren't there museums available?

I thought the same thing at first, but then I started thinking about it and then had second thoughts. This is Dallas ISD, there's some crummy schools around. Maybe they thought it was a way to get kids excited about Black History Month lessons, and school in general.

I wouldn't be crazy about the school taking my kids to a movie during school hours, though.

AZORChiefFan
02-13-2012, 08:09 AM
what are they doing out of the kitchen in the first place?

Predarat
02-13-2012, 08:21 AM
We should all cave in to the PC mentality and let the girls go to the guy movie and the guys go to the girl movie. Or just make them all watch something for both.

mikey23545
02-13-2012, 09:17 AM
Im just not a big fan of gender specific events. Boys can watch Aklee and the Bee and girls can watch Red Tails just fine and enjoy them. The school district is enforcing sterotypes.

That's right. We need to enforce the idea that men and women are identical beings with no differences between genders.

It's the only way to ensure we will always have a proper balance between metrosexuals and hairy-legged women.

Ebolapox
02-13-2012, 09:24 AM
the unfairness is pretty much the only issue that I can see here.

Rain Man
02-13-2012, 09:24 AM
If I was a parent, I would be furious about this. I would be demanding - DEMANDING - that my son and daughter stay in school and learn rather than going to the movies.

htismaqe
02-13-2012, 09:35 AM
That's right. We need to enforce the idea that men and women are identical beings with no differences between genders.

It's the only way to ensure we will always have a proper balance between metrosexuals and hairy-legged women.

Um, there are FAR better ways to reinforce gender roles, but I'm sure you know that...

patteeu
02-13-2012, 09:41 AM
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Why?

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2012, 09:44 AM
I don't see a problem.

patteeu
02-13-2012, 09:47 AM
I don't see a problem.

I don't either, other than using federal funds to send school kids to the movies.

KC native
02-13-2012, 09:48 AM
If I was a parent, I would be furious about this. I would be demanding - DEMANDING - that my son and daughter stay in school and learn rather than going to the movies.

public schooling doesn't have high standards in texas. dfw is especially bad

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2012, 09:48 AM
I don't either, other than using federal funds to send school kids to the movies.

Hmmmm...I would think the parents wouldpay for that; I agree.

Brock
02-13-2012, 10:11 AM
I'm sorry those boys were subjected to that.

Rausch
02-13-2012, 10:14 AM
I'm sorry those boys were subjected to that.

I was looking forward to it and was warned that it was "Pearl Harbor in the air..."

(Horribly inaccurate, bad acting, etc...)

tooge
02-13-2012, 10:22 AM
the girls shouldn't have been seeing a movie anyway. They should have been in home-ec learning how to make a sammich!

Gonzo
02-13-2012, 10:27 AM
I was looking forward to it and was warned that it was "Pearl Harbor in the air..."

(Horribly inaccurate, bad acting, etc...)

It was inaccurate?

What a shocker. You mean, the Tuskegee Airmen weren't the greatest pilots ever to fly in WWII? They didn't really shoot down thousands of Germans and Japanese like Hollywood said they did? I am disappoint.

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2012, 10:43 AM
Supposedly Lucas said he worked on the script for 20 years. He also said on the John Stewart show that this is as close as you'll get to Episode 7.

That's just dumb. That clown should make more and quit being a pussy about it.

WhiteWhale
02-13-2012, 10:53 AM
My school separated the classes into two groups. The 'A' Group and the B 'group'.

The A group (made up of cheerleaders and jocks and such) went to the zoo and had field trips and did all kinds of stuff, while the other group (non athletes) never went anywhere.

We organized a walk-out to protest and about 120 kids got suspended for 3 days.

Micjones
02-13-2012, 11:12 AM
It's hard to render an opinion without knowing how they typically handle situations like these.

"Akeelah & The Bee" is a five-year old film.
It's obvious the girls were kept behind at the school.

If the next film trip involves only the girls I'm not sure this is as thorny a situation as it seems. May be a financial thing.