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Mr_Tomahawk
02-13-2012, 02:21 PM
I am surprised with the number of Saltwater people here...just curious if there were any creepy reptile people like me?

I have kept one of everything it seems since growing up from Timber Rattlers to Panther Chameleons.

Now I just focus on breeding Ball Pythons. I have around 40ish snakes now.
Here are some random pics of some of my animals...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/DSCF7253.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/d0e08287.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/c80d57a6.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/7d3c34d4.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/5ef728e6.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/DSCF5934.jpg

I use to breed Jungle Carpet Pythons too...but reduced my collection size a few years ago prior to moving for graduate school.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/skunk2.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/ccb0efc3.jpg

loochy
02-13-2012, 02:21 PM
insert herpes joke here

Donger
02-13-2012, 02:37 PM
I'm a little embarrassed to admit this, but I have no idea how snakes copulate. Well, maybe I'm not embarrassed.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-13-2012, 02:40 PM
I'm a little embarrassed to admit this, but I have no idea how snakes copulate. Well, maybe I'm not embarrassed.

Yeah...looks like a couple of snakes with their tails twisted up. Nothing too crazy.

I did however hatch my first set of twins last spring...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/DSCF8775.jpg

Donger
02-13-2012, 02:41 PM
Yeah...looks like a couple of snakes with their tails twisted up. Nothing too crazy.

I did however hatch my first set of twins last spring...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/DSCF8775.jpg

"You bred Raptors?"

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-13-2012, 02:43 PM
I like creepy reptiles but I haven't had one since I got divorced.

(open to interpretation)

Mr_Tomahawk
02-13-2012, 02:44 PM
I like creepy reptiles but I haven't had one since I got divorced.

(open to interpretation)

Well if ya want a Ball Python..I know where you can find one. :)

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-13-2012, 02:47 PM
Well if ya want a Ball Python..I know where you can find one. :)

It'll get out and eat my ferret while I'm sleep texting my gf from 19 years ago asking her to stop biting so hard.

Otter
02-13-2012, 02:48 PM
I'm a little embarrassed to admit this, but I have no idea how snakes copulate. Well, maybe I'm not embarrassed.

Well Donger, see, when two snakes fall in love...there's a special hug that they share...

Someone get me a shot...

And when their done there's a chance that a baby snake starts to grow in the girl snakes belly.

Donger
02-13-2012, 02:51 PM
Although a wide range of reproductive modes are used by snakes, all snakes employ internal fertilization. This is accomplished by means of paired, forked hemipenes, which are stored, inverted, in the male's tail. The hemipenes are often grooved, hooked, or spined in order to grip the walls of the female's cloaca.

Sounds kinky.

Toadkiller
02-13-2012, 02:51 PM
I got my degree in wildlife biology/concentration in herpetology. I am into the amphibians though, I raise Poison dart frogs. Also had some chameleons at one point and a ball python but stick to frogs mostly now.

Dartgod
02-13-2012, 02:54 PM
Although a wide range of reproductive modes are used by snakes, all snakes employ internal fertilization. This is accomplished by means of paired, forked hemipenes, which are stored, inverted, in the male's tail. The hemipenes are often grooved, hooked, or spined in order to grip the walls of the female's cloaca.

Sounds kinky.

He said cloaca. Heh..hehehe...

http://epguides.com/BeavisandButthead/cast.jpg

Donger
02-13-2012, 02:54 PM
I learned a new word today: hemipenis or "half penis." I betting that most Asian chaps are familiar with already, however.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-13-2012, 02:54 PM
I got my degree in wildlife biology/concentration in herpetology. I am into the amphibians though, I raise Poison dart frogs. Also had some chameleons at one point and a ball python but stick to frogs mostly now.

Cool.

Use to have a White's Tree Frog and some Pacman Frogs back in the day...

Been tempted to add a Waxy Monkey Frog...but I love how little attention my snakes need. I can go out of town for a week and not have to worry about them being fed.

Plus they are kept in racks...no lighting required and just some aspen and a water bowl.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-13-2012, 02:55 PM
I learned a new word today: hemipenis or "half penis." I betting that most Asian chaps are familiar with already, however.

Sperm Plug.

Google that one.

Donger
02-13-2012, 02:55 PM
He said cloaca. Heh..hehehe...

http://epguides.com/BeavisandButthead/cast.jpg

You think it's funny?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Poss_Cloaca2.jpg/450px-Poss_Cloaca2.jpg

In zoological anatomy, a cloaca is the posterior opening that serves as the only such opening for the intestinal, reproductive, and urinary tracts of certain animal species. All amphibians, birds, reptiles, and monotremes possess this orifice, from which they excrete both urine and feces, unlike placental mammals, which possess two (or three) separate orifices for evacuation.

I think I knew a gal in high school that had one.

Discuss Thrower
02-13-2012, 02:55 PM
Seems fitting:

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Iowanian
02-13-2012, 03:02 PM
I learned a new word today: hemipenis or "half penis." I betting that most Asian chaps are familiar with already, however.

You're going to regret that joke, Donger Whitlock.




I hate snakes. A good snake is a dead snake.

Gonzo
02-13-2012, 03:30 PM
Herp Derp Herpindy Derp

El Jefe
02-13-2012, 03:41 PM
I got my degree in wildlife biology/concentration in herpetology. I am into the amphibians though, I raise Poison dart frogs. Also had some chameleons at one point and a ball python but stick to frogs mostly now.

I love the dart frogs. You have any pacman frogs? Those things are sick!

crispystl420
02-13-2012, 05:46 PM
I am surprised with the number of Saltwater people here...just curious if there were any creepy reptile people like me?

I have kept one of everything it seems since growing up from Timber Rattlers to Panther Chameleons.

Now I just focus on breeding Ball Pythons. I have around 40ish snakes now.
Here are some random pics of some of my animals...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/DSCF7253.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/d0e08287.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/c80d57a6.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/7d3c34d4.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/5ef728e6.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/DSCF5934.jpg

I use to breed Jungle Carpet Pythons too...but reduced my collection size a few years ago prior to moving for graduate school.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/skunk2.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/jerhart/ccb0efc3.jpg

Kill it with fire!

Toadkiller
02-13-2012, 06:01 PM
I love the dart frogs. You have any pacman frogs? Those things are sick!

Years ago I had a pacman and some whites tree frogs. Always enjoyed feeding them pinkies. Dart frogs are so much more fun to raise, especially the egg feeders. The female dart frogs put an unfertilized egg in with the tadpole so it can eat it. Raising fruit flies is a bit of a pain but doesnt take much work.

alnorth
02-13-2012, 06:53 PM
Had a King Snake for like 8 years before he died in a tragic accident. Very colorful and cool, but always squirrelly and didn't want to be held at all. Never did get around to buying another the last 6 years, but they are very easy low-maintenance pets.

If I ever did get another, it would probably be a ball python, since if you wanted to get one out of its cage, they usually like to wrap around an arm and chill. Hopefully one that isn't a damned picky eater, which they are notorious for being.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-13-2012, 06:53 PM
Years ago I had a pacman and some whites tree frogs. Always enjoyed feeding them pinkies. Dart frogs are so much more fun to raise, especially the egg feeders. The female dart frogs put an unfertilized egg in with the tadpole so it can eat it. Raising fruit flies is a bit of a pain but doesnt take much work.

What species of Dart Frogs do you keep?

Mr_Tomahawk
02-13-2012, 06:56 PM
Had a King Snake for like 8 years before he died in a tragic accident. Very colorful and cool, but always squirrelly and didn't want to be held at all. Never did get around to buying another the last 6 years, but they are very easy low-maintenance pets.

If I ever did get another, it would probably be a ball python, since if you wanted to get one out of its cage, they usually like to wrap around an arm and chill. Hopefully one that isn't a damned picky eater, which they are notorious for being.

Ball Pythons aren't notorious for being picky eaters.

...most of mine feed on F/T Rats weekly. They are one of the top pythons to keep for beginners due to the fact they are good eaters.

alnorth
02-13-2012, 06:59 PM
Ball Pythons aren't notorious for being picky eaters.

...most of mine feed on F/T Rats weekly. They are one of the top pythons to keep for beginners due to the fact they are good eaters.

Maybe yours are not, but yeah they are, you only have to briefly check the internet to verify that, and I had two friends with ball pythons who were a pain in the ass about eating (though one had a second ball who had no problem).

To be fair, I seem to remember in the back of my mind that maybe captive-bred ball pythons are better about being handled and eating, while wild-caught ball pythons that some stores sell are not.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-13-2012, 07:02 PM
Maybe yours are not, but yeah they are, you only have to briefly check the internet to verify that, and I had two friends with ball pythons who were a pain in the ass about eating (though one had a second ball who had no problem).

To be fair, I seem to remember in the back of my mind that maybe captive-bred ball pythons are better about being handled and eating, while wild-caught ball pythons that some stores sell are not.

Yes CB animals ARE better feeders than WC animals.

But.

I am a mod at one of the larger fauna sites so I am familiar with 'Checking the internet to verify'.

If either of your friends are having trouble feeding their animals, I know most of the 'big' breeders across the country, and I am sure I know one near them that would be willing to help...

alnorth
02-13-2012, 07:09 PM
Yes CB animals ARE better feeders than WC animals.

But.

I am a mod at one of the larger fauna sites so I am familiar with 'Checking the internet to verify'.

If either of your friends are having trouble feeding their animals, I know most of the 'big' breeders across the country, and I am sure I know one near them that would be willing to help...

You may be right, I may be seeing a false correlation. Never thought about it that way. Maybe its not the breed, but the fact that they are often wild-caught. Since Ball Pythons are very, very popular the average person is probably a lot more likely to get one that didn't come from a breeder, while other kinds of snakes probably almost always did.

Anyway, I do believe if someone wants a snake, they are better off getting one from a breeder, if for no other reason than it has been fed and picked up by humans its entire life, so you wont look like some huge hairless ape-monster to it.

Toadkiller
02-13-2012, 08:08 PM
What species of Dart Frogs do you keep?

Started with the easy stuff, the tincts, azureus, auratus and now concentrate on the bastimentos since I have three kids now I just dont have much time for them or Id have a heck of a lot more.

scott free
02-13-2012, 08:43 PM
I have a 55 gallon tank, with a wild caught, just barely hatched painted turtle & a 5in needlefish, plus whatever minnows the needle hasnt eaten yet & a few apple snails.

Betty the turtle is three years old & still only about 4 inches long in the shell, i'm sure the smallish tank has played a role in her small size. She's amazingly tame, wont even go after live fish anymore really, but she does get a varied diet of fresh, frozen & dried foods and has a heat lamp as well as a repto-min uv light. I shouldnt have kept it, but it was found while on a special camping trip with my kids, so she's a kind of memento & besides that, i cant trade her into a pet store being a wild caught animal.

Dotty the needle is an awesome silver, purplish & blue fish depending on the light, basically a fresh water barracuda, a gar, not sure why i was stupid enough to put it in with Betty, on paper thats not going to work...for the first six months they've had a perfect detente, but lately Bettys been getting a bit too close, sniffing around & whats so funny, is that unlike any other dumb looking, bug eyed fish that can only think to run... ol Dotty will turn to fight, nip at her head & poke at her with a closed mouth... they're both too big at this point, a new tank is going to be a must real soon, she'll end up taking Bettys eye out or Betty will chomp enough out to kill it.

I always like keeping a tank of some kind, once past startup costs its a cheap, entertaining & great to look at hobby.

Sorter
02-13-2012, 08:52 PM
Yes CB animals ARE better feeders than WC animals.

But.

I am a mod at one of the larger fauna sites so I am familiar with 'Checking the internet to verify'.

If either of your friends are having trouble feeding their animals, I know most of the 'big' breeders across the country, and I am sure I know one near them that would be willing to help...

Tomahawk, you post over at FHF/do any field herping in KS?

Mr_Tomahawk
02-13-2012, 08:59 PM
Tomahawk, you post over at FHF/do any field herping in KS?

Naw I dont post there.

I use to field herp here. Haven't for a couple of years now...

Use to go out to the Flint Hills all the time. Chad Whittney ring a bell by any chance?

Sorter
02-13-2012, 09:37 PM
Naw I dont post there.

I use to field herp here. Haven't for a couple of years now...

Use to go out to the Flint Hills all the time. Chad Whittney ring a bell by any chance?

Nope, sorry. I go field herping a lot in MO or CO for the main part of my summers/spring. Lurk a ton, post a little on FHF. Have you just bred ball pythons/j. carpets? (Those carpets looked great, was really thinking about getting a pair for a while. Kinda looking at a .dendrophila but doubt I'll shell out the money for one right now)

MOhillbilly
02-13-2012, 09:54 PM
I knew a guy that kept a gator in his bathtub. It would scratch on the shower glass if it heard you walk in.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-13-2012, 10:57 PM
Nope, sorry. I go field herping a lot in MO or CO for the main part of my summers/spring. Lurk a ton, post a little on FHF. Have you just bred ball pythons/j. carpets? (Those carpets looked great, was really thinking about getting a pair for a while. Kinda looking at a .dendrophila but doubt I'll shell out the money for one right now)

Yeah, I wish I had time to get out to field herp more.

I just breed BPs now. Have around 40 animals total ranging from breeders to last seasons hatchlings.

I have kept a lot of various reptiles over the past 25 years...bred a few.

I use to have a 2.5 group of Jungle Carpets, but got rid of them before leaving for grad school. They just took up more space than BPs...tended to be pickier eaters...and the market just kind of sucked. Females can throw 20-30 egg clutches, and I would have trouble selling 5-10 to the public during the year. Most of the time I would just dump them off to petstores or wholesalers.

In terms of breeding, I have bred Ball Pythons, Carpet Pythons, Blood Pythons, Spotted Pythons, Bearded Dragons, Leopard Geckos, panther geckos, standings day geckos, madagascar giant green day geckos, african fat tailed geckos and Jacksons Chameleons.

I have a slowed down since becoming a father a couple years ago. It is easier to keep one species as I am not messing with calibrating different environments for housing and offering a wide variety of food items. I have a room of racks that are all wired to a thermostat and my pythons eat F/T rats weekly. I can feed/clean 40 snake cages in about 90 minutes a week. Which is nothing...

I could talk about this stuff forever... :D

alnorth
02-13-2012, 11:37 PM
Looking at the pics again, your animals are cool. Ball Pythons are cool for many reasons, too: when they grow up and are no longer "cute", they usually stay small enough to be manageable. You'll never hear about someone getting hurt by a Ball Python, they are among the smallest of constricting snakes, even at adult size. The only mammals who should fear them are small furry rodents.

Also, Ball Pythons are shy, almost adorably so. There can always be a bad egg or an angry animal here and there, but generally, they are almost never mean, and if something startles it, it balls up and hides. They are very gentle, chill, timid snakes.

Lumpy
02-13-2012, 11:47 PM
"...snakes on this mother #$%^& thread!"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-N-W4EPadGF4/Tkwl9fCBfVI/AAAAAAAAAFg/FlA35DoKlfA/s1600/samueljackson.gif

Holladay
02-14-2012, 04:39 AM
40 snakes??? Wow. Do they play fetch? Roll over? Play dead? What about keep your feet warm? Kill mice?

Not to poke fun at you and trying to understand the desire for snakes: yes I have a 125 gal fresh fish tank. And the fishies can't do any of the above. But at least they swim around and are a wall of color. Snakes just still there til you toss in a mouse. Guess they have nice color while trying to blend in with the logg they're sitting on.

Guess the question comes down to, why do people like snakes? Have some out in the barn, which I do truely like to whack the above mentioned mice.

Reptiles, while kinda cool = cold, no intellect, dont move, dont kiss, dont fetch, dont eat the scraps off the table (maybe they do...pythons...but not just the scraps)

Like to watch them eat?? Guess I could have an alligator then too.

Guess I dont get it...

Mr_Tomahawk
02-14-2012, 07:40 AM
40 snakes??? Wow. Do they play fetch? Roll over? Play dead? What about keep your feet warm? Kill mice?

Not to poke fun at you and trying to understand the desire for snakes: yes I have a 125 gal fresh fish tank. And the fishies can't do any of the above. But at least they swim around and are a wall of color. Snakes just still there til you toss in a mouse. Guess they have nice color while trying to blend in with the logg they're sitting on.

Guess the question comes down to, why do people like snakes? Have some out in the barn, which I do truely like to whack the above mentioned mice.

Reptiles, while kinda cool = cold, no intellect, dont move, dont kiss, dont fetch, dont eat the scraps off the table (maybe they do...pythons...but not just the scraps)

Like to watch them eat?? Guess I could have an alligator then too.

Guess I dont get it...

You are right...one can interact more with a snake than a fish.

As for colors...here is ONE species, I am guessing there are are 200 different color/pattern combos. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/

Minimal husbandry requirements. I have seen everything one has to do keep a saltwater aquarium setup correctly...no thank you.

I have taken animals to elementary schools to talk about snakes etc. Good luck with doing that with a fish...let alone keep their interest showing, a fish.

And lastly I am interested in the whole genetics side of it. When you have recessive, dominant, and codominant trait animals...the color/pattern combos are endless.

El Jefe
02-14-2012, 08:53 AM
Years ago I had a pacman and some whites tree frogs. Always enjoyed feeding them pinkies. Dart frogs are so much more fun to raise, especially the egg feeders. The female dart frogs put an unfertilized egg in with the tadpole so it can eat it. Raising fruit flies is a bit of a pain but doesnt take much work.

Can you expound on how you raise fruit flies? I have heard it's a huge pain, and one of the reasons I haven't ventured into the dart frogs.

Toadkiller
02-14-2012, 09:24 AM
It really is not that hard to raise fruit flies, http://www.doylesdartden.com/fruitfly.html has a handy dandy page on how to raise them. You can buy already made mix from somewhere like ed's fly meat or you can make your own from the recipes on that first page. After you get the cultures going it doesnt take much at all to keep them going. You can also sign up for monthly flies from places like Ed's that will just ship you some so you don't even have to raise them but it honestly is very easy to culture them yourself.
If the reason why you havent tried darts is because of the fruit flies then Id say don't worry, it isn't that big of a deal.

Holladay
02-14-2012, 11:32 AM
You are right...one can interact more with a snake than a fish.



Touche.

Minimal husbandry requirements. I have seen everything one has to do keep a saltwater aquarium setup correctly...no thank you.



yes I have a 125 gal FRESH fish tank

The way I have it setup I don't have to do ANYTHING for a month...not even feed them. I have an auto feeder. Just still and watch:)

I have taken animals to elementary schools to talk about snakes etc. Good luck with doing that with a fish...let alone keep their interest showing, a fish.

And lastly I am interested in the whole genetics side of it. When you have recessive, dominant, and codominant trait animals...the color/pattern combos are endless.


Both good points.

I still would prefer dogs/cats. They do take more space/time/money though.

tooge
02-14-2012, 11:45 AM
I'm a little embarrassed to admit this, but I have no idea how snakes copulate. Well, maybe I'm not embarrassed.

when one snake is too high to decide, the other snake rapes it.

mr. tegu
03-20-2012, 11:00 PM
I have been keeping reptiles and amphibians basically my whole life. I recall housing my first wild caught frogs as early as 5 years old and have never stopped since. Though years ago I learned to let the native species mostly be happy in their natural environments. That basically coincided with when I began to finally earn money and could afford other reptiles.

Right now I have a big male Argentine black and white tegu. He has a really cool enclosure. I will post some pics soon. And to the post above about the friendliness of reptiles, it just depends. I have had my tegu since he was 6 weeks old and he is over 4 years old now. When you pet him on the back he arches it like any cat or dog and that is not a joke. That is what finally turned my fiancÚ into thinking he was cute. He also has a leash for going on walks in the backyard. Basically if you have just a few larger species they can be very trained and friendly.

Phobia
03-20-2012, 11:09 PM
Pretty sure Hootie was a herpestologist.

mr. tegu
03-20-2012, 11:32 PM
Years ago I had a pacman and some whites tree frogs. Always enjoyed feeding them pinkies. Dart frogs are so much more fun to raise, especially the egg feeders. The female dart frogs put an unfertilized egg in with the tadpole so it can eat it. Raising fruit flies is a bit of a pain but doesnt take much work.

I have always wanted to have dart frogs and have been looking into them more. Outside the obvious reasons that they are very colorful and unique I also like their enclosures. It is like having a little rainforest complete with waterfalls and a variety of living plants.I do wish that I could have a wide variety living together but from what I understand that's not the best idea. Is this correct?

I have also always wanted to fill a big aquarium with a bunch of tree frogs and living plants and water features, etc. I have numerous aquariums at 50+ gallons that would so much fun to fill with frogs. That is something I will probably wait until I get a house (same with a fish tank).

I wonder if they other long time reptile keepers have accumulated as much stuff as me. All the different cages, aquariums, pumps, plants, and rocks that I just keep because their monetary value far below the value I have on them.

KC Tattoo
03-21-2012, 12:11 AM
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u22/Eliseu_2007/gif%20-%20desenho/EMAJoHhY.gif

listopencil
03-21-2012, 12:48 AM
I am a herpderpetoligist. Does that help?

booger
03-24-2012, 08:45 PM
any money to be made breeding leopard gecko's?

Heard of people doing that and selling the offspring to pet shops and making a few bucks.

Some of those ball python morphs look pretty cool. Bet they are pretty spendy too.

booger
03-24-2012, 08:55 PM
insert herpes joke here

its a good practice to wear a condom around any reptile or amphibians. Especially turtles

Mr_Tomahawk
03-24-2012, 09:00 PM
any money to be made breeding leopard gecko's?

Heard of people doing that and selling the offspring to pet shops and making a few bucks.

Some of those ball python morphs look pretty cool. Bet they are pretty spendy too.

Yeah there is money to be made off of leopards...but the high dollar ones ($1,000+) aren't being sold to pet stores, rather other breeders.

I usually send pet stores all of my "leftovers".

As for Ball Pythons...you can find normals for $15 all the way up to crazy one of a kind morphs for $20,000.

Mr_Tomahawk
03-24-2012, 09:03 PM
I have been keeping reptiles and amphibians basically my whole life. I recall housing my first wild caught frogs as early as 5 years old and have never stopped since. Though years ago I learned to let the native species mostly be happy in their natural environments. That basically coincided with when I began to finally earn money and could afford other reptiles.

Right now I have a big male Argentine black and white tegu. He has a really cool enclosure. I will post some pics soon. And to the post above about the friendliness of reptiles, it just depends. I have had my tegu since he was 6 weeks old and he is over 4 years old now. When you pet him on the back he arches it like any cat or dog and that is not a joke. That is what finally turned my fiancÚ into thinking he was cute. He also has a leash for going on walks in the backyard. Basically if you have just a few larger species they can be very trained and friendly.

I was always curious where you got your name. ;)

I have had kept a Columbian BW Tegu and an Argentine Red Tegu in the past. Columbian was aggressive...my Red was a sweetie.

booger
03-24-2012, 09:10 PM
Yeah there is money to be made off of leopards...but the high dollar ones ($1,000+) aren't being sold to pet stores, rather other breeders.

I usually send pet stores all of my "leftovers".

As for Ball Pythons...you can find normals for $15 all the way up to crazy one of a kind morphs for $20,000.

I had a milksnake and kingsnake years ago. I've been thinking about getting a ball python after reading they only get 4-5' long. Seems like they are pretty docile. Would you recommend a male or female? Store bought or captive bread from a breeder? A baby or an older snake? And is the frozen thawed the way to go or is feeding them live ok too?

Mr_Tomahawk
03-24-2012, 09:20 PM
I had a milksnake and kingsnake years ago. I've been thinking about getting a ball python after reading they only get 4-5' long. Seems like they are pretty docile. Would you recommend a male or female? Store bought or captive bread from a breeder? A baby or an older snake? And is the frozen thawed the way to go or is feeding them live ok too?

Males are generally smaller than females...around 3'. One sex is not generally anymore docile than the other. They all have their own personalities but as a whole, BPs are a docile species.

I will have plenty of normal morphs in a few months I'd have no problem hooking you up (next to free).

I highly recommend getting a captive bred animal from a breeder rather than a farm raised animal form a breeder. This will reduce...really eliminate...your chances of any internal/external parasites so you have a happy healthy animal who feeds well for you.

Frozen thawed feeders are the way to go. You can feed live pinkies and hoppers to hatchlings but as the animal grows and they require a larger prey item you will want to switch to frozen feeders. I have seen many snakes who have been attacked by leftover live prey that have been left unattended in a snakes enclosure.

So....get a captive bred animal and feed it frozen/thawed feeders.

booger
03-24-2012, 09:41 PM
Males are generally smaller than females...around 3'. One sex is not generally anymore docile than the other. They all have their own personalities but as a whole, BPs are a docile species.

I will have plenty of normal morphs in a few months I'd have no problem hooking you up (next to free).

I highly recommend getting a captive bred animal from a breeder rather than a farm raised animal form a breeder. This will reduce...really eliminate...your chances of any internal/external parasites so you have a happy healthy animal who feeds well for you.

Frozen thawed feeders are the way to go. You can feed live pinkies and hoppers to hatchlings but as the animal grows and they require a larger prey item you will want to switch to frozen feeders. I have seen many snakes who have been attacked by leftover live prey that have been left unattended in a snakes enclosure.

So....get a captive bred animal and feed it frozen/thawed feeders.

Thanks for the advice man! :thumb:

I'll be debating and researching it for a few months at least before i do any serious looking. I was into freshwater tanks with Oscars, Pacu, and Pirahna's , the big tank buster fish, from when i was a kid until my late teens/early 20's. The tank, fish, proper filtration and care is pretty spendy and would add up quickly having a 55 gallon plus tank going. I was thinking a ball python would be pretty cool to get into. I'll probably be bumping this thread with questions on anything snake/reptile and get your input on it. You seem to know your stuff!

That's very generous of you on the hatchlings you have coming up, I may take a trip to Kansas and take you up on it! If anything else it's fun to research the care they need and the different kind of morphs they have out there. What types of morphs do you do? I think the normal royal b/p's are pretty good looking snakes on their own but some of these color combos and paterns they come up with are amazing.

Mr_Tomahawk
03-24-2012, 09:51 PM
Thanks for the advice man! :thumb:

I'll be debating and researching it for a few months at least before i do any serious looking. I was into freshwater tanks with Oscars, Pacu, and Pirahna's , the big tank buster fish, from when i was a kid until my late teens/early 20's. The tank, fish, proper filtration and care is pretty spendy and would add up quickly having a 55 gallon plus tank going. I was thinking a ball python would be pretty cool to get into. I'll probably be bumping this thread with questions on anything snake/reptile and get your input on it. You seem to know your stuff!

That's very generous of you on the hatchlings you have coming up, I may take a trip to Kansas and take you up on it! If anything else it's fun to research the care they need and the different kind of morphs they have out there. What types of morphs do you do? I think the normal royal b/p's are pretty good looking snakes on their own but some of these color combos and paterns they come up with are amazing.

Not a problem man. Let me know if you have any questions. I have been working with reptiles for 20+ years.

As for the morphs I have...I have many combos of the following base morphs:

-Pastel
-Cinnamon
-Spider
-Pinstripe
-Yellowbelly
-Clown
-Genetic Stripe
-Caramel Albino
-Pied

If you are curious of the different morphs/combos out there....this website has a pretty good database going: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/

booger
03-24-2012, 09:55 PM
cool site, bookmarked it!

aturnis
03-24-2012, 10:18 PM
disgusting...

Bwana
03-24-2012, 10:28 PM
Oh hell no! Unless you count a pair of my boots.

http://s9.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/9783961A.jpg

Mr_Tomahawk
03-25-2012, 11:11 AM
Pussies :)

Sorter
04-16-2013, 05:09 PM
Bump for the spring reptiles. :)