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Mr_Tomahawk
02-14-2012, 09:35 PM
Just curious.

After reading various scouting reports coupled with posters here having watched many of the games of the various QBs in the draft...I find myself confused. Some say he has a strong arm...this guy says not really...then this guy says well I saw all of his game and he has no problem getting the ball down the field.

I know there aren't any Mallett or Cutler arms in the draft...I think...other than RG3 who comes the closest, I think...again.

So...settle it here. Draft gurus, list the top 5 arms in the draft.

KCrockaholic
02-14-2012, 09:53 PM
Top 5 arms in this class...

Nick Foles
Robert Griffin
Andrew Luck
Brock Osweiler
Brandon Weeden

But I'd rather talk about the top 5 most accurate.

DJ's left nut
02-14-2012, 09:57 PM
Ugh...probably nobody.

RGIII

Luck
Osweiler
Foles

Tannehill (I want to put Lindley here, but he just didn't show a thing during Senior Bowl practices; I swear his arm is stronger than that)

The more you start really poking at these QBs, the more you see just how bad of an idea it is to go reaching for one this season.

The QBs in this draft freakin' blow.

Direckshun
02-14-2012, 11:10 PM
I think in terms of sheer strength, Osweiler may have it this year.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2012, 07:25 AM
I think in terms of sheer strength, Osweiler may have it this year.

See in the Osweiler thread in the lounge, some were claiming he had an average to good arm at best...

My brain is in a pretzel!

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljepxgCVOC1qcj0vj.png

Chiefnj2
02-15-2012, 07:30 AM
I think people assume Osweiler has a good arm because of his size. He might have a strong arm, but in all the clips I've seen of him he his accuracy isn't very good downfield. Hard to judge.

Another Osweiler game, meh

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Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2012, 07:40 AM
I think people assume Osweiler has a good arm because of his size. He might have a strong arm, but in all the clips I've seen of him he his accuracy isn't very good downfield. Hard to judge.

Rank your top 5 arms?

Chiefnj2
02-15-2012, 07:53 AM
Rank your top 5 arms?

Pure arm strength? I'm not sure. It's hard to tell when there is such a varying degree of accuracy to go along with the arm. When you watch clips Lindley appears to have a strong arm, but can't hit water if he falls out of a boat and didn't look strong at the Senior Bowl. RGIII has a good arm, not Stafford like, but throws a beautiful deep ball that hits his receivers in stride.

I'd say above average arm and good accuracy - RGIII, Weeden, Luck and maybe Foles.

Direckshun
02-15-2012, 08:09 AM
See in the Osweiler thread in the lounge, some were claiming he had an average to good arm at best...

My brain is in a pretzel!

I've seen him play about five games this year.

His stupid throwing motion reminds me of Tebow's awful pitch. But also like Tebow, he is able to get the ball just about anywhere on the field. Arm strength isn't his issue. His body strength certainly is -- even at 240 lbs, he looks lanky.

Now like DJ said, you don't really have a Matt Stafford arm this year, but you do have a few good ones. Osweiler's is the best for strength, for my money.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2012, 08:51 AM
At the beginning of the season, I was under the impression Foles had a strong arm...but have never seen much of it on any youtube clips...

jd1020
02-15-2012, 11:53 AM
I think people assume Osweiler has a good arm because of his size. He might have a strong arm, but in all the clips I've seen of him he his accuracy isn't very good downfield. Hard to judge.

Another Osweiler game, meh

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Your hate for Osweiler is hilarious.

I had never seen that clip before and thats probably the best I've seen out of any of the "2nd tier" QBs. He consistently put the deep ball in a place where his receivers could make a play on it. I think I can only remember two that he didn't, one in the EZ when his receiver was blanketed by 2 defenders and one on the run where he threw it behind his receiver. I can't think of any intermediate throws that didn't hit his receiver in the hands, not counting the ones that were tipped. One thing that does stand out is how bad his protection is. The guy is running from multiple defenders all day in that game.

He's quickly becoming someone I hope the Chiefs go after. He fits Pioli's mold and he's the best option after the first, imo.

jd1020
02-15-2012, 11:58 AM
See in the Osweiler thread in the lounge, some were claiming he had an average to good arm at best...

My brain is in a pretzel!

I can't tell if Osweiler has the best arm in the draft or not. I do know he has a strong arm and can get the ball any where he wants on the field and it looks effortless when he wants to put some zip on the ball to thread the needle.

Chiefnj2
02-15-2012, 12:00 PM
Your hate for Osweiler is hilarious.

I had never seen that clip before and thats probably the best I've seen out of any of the "2nd tier" QBs. He consistently put the deep ball in a place where his receivers could make a play on it. I think I can only remember two that he didn't, one in the EZ when his receiver was blanketed by 2 defenders and one on the run where he threw it behind his receiver. I can't think of any intermediate throws that didn't hit his receiver in the hands, not counting the ones that were tipped. One thing that doesn't stand out is how bad his protection is. The guy is running from multiple defenders all day in that game.

He's quickly becoming someone I hope the Chiefs go after. He fits Pioli's mold and he's the best option after the first, imo.

I don't hate any draft prospect. I just don't think he's a kid you would use a round 1-3 draft pick on.

Direckshun
02-15-2012, 12:00 PM
He fits Pioli's mold and he's the best option after the first, imo.

How many years has he started?

jd1020
02-15-2012, 12:01 PM
The more you start really poking at these QBs, the more you see just how bad of an idea it is to go reaching for one this season.

You just say that because you think every top draft eligible QB for 2013 is going to declare for the draft and that they all develop into what you look for in a 1st round QB.

jd1020
02-15-2012, 12:03 PM
How many years has he started?

I didn't know we were talking about Parcells mold, here.

I thought we were talking about Pioli's.

How many years did Cassel start?

EDIT: Hell... has Pioli ever drafted a QB that actually met Parcells criteria for starts?

Direckshun
02-15-2012, 12:17 PM
I didn't know we were talking about Parcells mold, here.

I thought we were talking about Pioli's.

How many years did Cassel start?

EDIT: Hell... has Pioli ever drafted a QB that actually met Parcells criteria for starts?

Stanzi?

jd1020
02-15-2012, 12:20 PM
Stanzi?

WOOT! 1 of 5?

whoman69
02-15-2012, 02:17 PM
You just say that because you think every top draft eligible QB for 2013 is going to declare for the draft and that they all develop into what you look for in a 1st round QB.

I have to agree with this, but only in part. This class looked to be pretty strong before two QBs who probably were in the upper first round dropped out. Now it looks very weak after the top 2 picks. Because of this, I don't think you can count your chickens on next year being a strong class. People go back to school or don't develop like expected.

Tannenhill is a project that won't be ready for a few years. Osweiler is way taller than your prototypical QB. Weeden is 5-6 years older than your average rookie.

Bewbies
02-15-2012, 02:59 PM
If we can't get RG3 I still want us to take a QB. Foles, Tannehill, Oswhatever, possibly Weeden but I can't stand the idea of developing a QB that's already that old...

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2012, 03:03 PM
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Chief_For_Life58
02-15-2012, 09:38 PM
The only quarterbacks better then what we have on the dc is luck n rg3. All those other guys are nothing better then stanzi. yes i said it. resign orton to starter or trade the house for rg3.

htismaqe
02-16-2012, 06:41 AM
If we can't get RG3 I still want us to take a QB. Foles, Tannehill, Oswhatever, possibly Weeden but I can't stand the idea of developing a QB that's already that old...

We have a developmental QB on the roster in Stanzi. We need someone who can compete NOW.

In many ways, Weeden is precisely what we need.

htismaqe
02-16-2012, 06:42 AM
WOOT! 1 of 5?

Tom Brady?

jd1020
02-16-2012, 06:42 AM
Tom Brady?

No.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-28-2012, 05:03 PM
Any post-combine changes?

I didn't get to see if there was any significant throwing done...but I heard Kirk Cousins has been impressing many at the combine. I know he doesn't have the big arm...but were there any other QBs that exhibited good arm strength when throwing?

Ultra Peanut
03-03-2012, 11:55 PM
Your hate for Osweiler is hilarious.

I had never seen that clip before and thats probably the best I've seen out of any of the "2nd tier" QBs. He consistently put the deep ball in a place where his receivers could make a play on it. Yeah, that was a nice looking performance and I'd be fine with drafting him after watching that.