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KILLER_CLOWN
02-20-2012, 12:16 PM
Thursday, February 9, 2012

Number of the day

88 million

That's how many working-age Americans don't have a job and aren't trying to find one. The increase in people dropping out of the labor market altogether skews the otherwise-positive unemployment numbers released last week. While the jobless rate fell to 8.3 percent in January - a three-year low - it doesn't account for this army of nonworking Americans. The percentage of people participating in the labor market dropped to 63.7 percent last month, the lowest level since May 1983.
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This article appeared on page D - 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/08/BUIQ1N3RH8.DTL#ixzz1mwn0TNsN

The economy and joblessness are on the rebound fo sho!

InChiefsHell
02-20-2012, 12:30 PM
I don't understand what the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs had to do with the first...

jiveturkey
02-20-2012, 12:33 PM
88 million sounds like a stretch.

Our total population is just over 300. Subtract out kids, old/retired and students and I'm guessing we're at workforce around 200 million.

That would put the unemployment at like 44%.

InChiefsHell
02-20-2012, 12:37 PM
88 million sounds like a stretch.

Our total population is just over 300. Subtract out kids, old/retired and students and I'm guessing we're at workforce around 200 million.

That would put the unemployment at like 44%.

While it's staggering, it is indeed what the article is claiming:

88 million

That's how many working-age Americans don't have a job and aren't trying to find one. The increase in people dropping out of the labor market altogether skews the otherwise-positive unemployment numbers released last week. While the jobless rate fell to 8.3 percent in January - a three-year low - it doesn't account for this army of nonworking Americans. The percentage of people participating in the labor market dropped to 63.7 percent last month, the lowest level since May 1983.

In other words, it might be hard to believe, but that's what it's saying.

vailpass
02-20-2012, 12:58 PM
This article needs to be reported to obama's Truth Team so the citizen who wrote it can receive the Re-education he needs.

La literatura
02-20-2012, 01:10 PM
88 million sounds like a stretch.

Our total population is just over 300. Subtract out kids, old/retired and students and I'm guessing we're at workforce around 200 million.

That would put the unemployment at like 44%.

It seems like it depends on how inclusive "working age Americans" is. 16-85, regardless of education status, retirement, stay at home parents, etc.

notorious
02-20-2012, 01:19 PM
That's not even fucking possible.

Bump
02-20-2012, 01:31 PM
Working for corporate america sucks, low pay and they keep increasing work load without an increase in pay just so they can get more rich while all of their workers struggle. I do it and I hate it, there is nothing I can do to better my work situation atm, there are 50 applications coming in a week and my bosses mentality which is straight from corporate is if I don't like it, I'll just be fired and get another employee tomorrow. Every corporation has a list of values that they proudly display but never are actually true, they are all the same. We struggle, they get rich, no loyalty in fact I'm pretty sure we are hated as employees even though we bust our ass for 99% of the shift, after working my ass off for 5 straight hours if I get a fucking glass of water that's considered lowering productivity and have to get a dirty look from my boss. I fucking hate this shit and this is america today.

InChiefsHell
02-20-2012, 01:34 PM
Working for corporate america sucks, low pay and they keep increasing work load without an increase in pay just so they can get more rich while all of their workers struggle. I do it and I hate it, there is nothing I can do to better my work situation atm, there are 50 applications coming in a week and my bosses mentality which is straight from corporate is if I don't like it, I'll just be fired and get another employee tomorrow. Every corporation has a list of values that they proudly display but never are actually true, they are all the same. We struggle, they get rich, no loyalty in fact I'm pretty sure we are hated as employees even though we bust our ass for 99% of the shift, after working my ass off for 5 straight hours if I get a ****ing glass of water that's considered lowering productivity and have to get a dirty look from my boss. I ****ing hate this shit and this is america today.

:rolleyes:

Jesus dude. Maybe you need to find another job, or another line of work. I've never had that kind of issue working in "corporate America" and I've never been management either.

jiveturkey
02-20-2012, 01:38 PM
I prefer working in a large corp. The benefits rock and it includes a discount stock buying program.

La literatura
02-20-2012, 01:42 PM
Working for corporate america sucks, low pay and they keep increasing work load without an increase in pay just so they can get more rich while all of their workers struggle. I do it and I hate it, there is nothing I can do to better my work situation atm, there are 50 applications coming in a week and my bosses mentality which is straight from corporate is if I don't like it, I'll just be fired and get another employee tomorrow. Every corporation has a list of values that they proudly display but never are actually true, they are all the same. We struggle, they get rich, no loyalty in fact I'm pretty sure we are hated as employees even though we bust our ass for 99% of the shift, after working my ass off for 5 straight hours if I get a fucking glass of water that's considered lowering productivity and have to get a dirty look from my boss. I fucking hate this shit and this is america today.

You're 21 years old. Some college? No college? You're completely expendable, and most likely, you don't do a great job, and spend most of your time on facebook or other websites, like chiefsplanet.

Bump
02-20-2012, 01:55 PM
You're 21 years old. Some college? No college? You're completely expendable, and most likely, you don't do a great job, and spend most of your time on facebook or other websites, like chiefsplanet.

bullshit. I have a BSE, I have never been fired or written up in the past 10 years. I do my job very well but it doesn't really matter. Everybody is completely expendable, that's the point and I never break policy, I take what I do very seriously and it still doesn't matter. I never even bring my cell phone into work, I always turn if off and leave it in the car. So **** you, you don't know shit.

Things I've seen people get fired for in my venture in corporate america:

1. 12+ hour shifts are commonplace and if you want a break, expect to get your hours docked on the next schedule, so I saw one girl get fired because she tried to eat a powerbar off in a corner somewhere. Company policy says you cannot eat anything while on the clock fired. But she just wanted sustenance to make it 12 hours.

2. A girl was 20 minutes late for the first time because she got in a car wreck that wasn't her fault. FIRED.

3. Drinking water or going to the bathroom is allowed but frowned upon.

4. Fired if you don't sign the break waiver.

5. Dozens of people fired because they lost their nametag for a second time, first time is a final written warning.

6. Dozens of people fired because a curse word slipped out, not towards anybody however.

7. Dozens of people having a cell phone on their person, turned off but the manager could see the buldge in their pockets so they would ask them to empty their pockets and just having a phone on your person is FIRED.

8. One guys mom called because someone died and he got fired. Personal phone calls are not allowed.

and the list goes on and on and on

shit like this is just treating us as 2nd class citizens, we are not people to corporations we are ****ing worthless slaves.

jiveturkey
02-20-2012, 01:58 PM
You work for an extremely shitty company.

I'd explore some new options if I were you.

InChiefsHell
02-20-2012, 01:59 PM
bullshit. I have a BSE, I have never been fired or written up in the past 10 years. I do my job very well but it doesn't really matter. Everybody is completely expendable, that's the point and I never break policy, I take what I do very seriously and it still doesn't matter. I never even bring my cell phone into work, I always turn if off and leave it in the car. So **** you, you don't know shit.

Things I've seen people get fired for in my venture in corporate america:

1. 12+ hour shifts are commonplace and if you want a break, expect to get your hours docked on the next schedule, so I saw one girl get fired because she tried to eat a powerbar off in a corner somewhere. Company policy says you cannot eat anything while on the clock fired. But she just wanted sustenance to make it 12 hours.

2. A girl was 20 minutes late for the first time because she got in a car wreck that wasn't her fault. FIRED.

3. Drinking water or going to the bathroom is allowed but frowned upon.

4. Fired if you don't sign the break waiver.

5. Dozens of people fired because they lost their nametag for a second time, first time is a final written warning.

6. Dozens of people fired because a curse word slipped out, not towards anybody however.

and the list goes on and on and on

shit like this is just treating us as 2nd class citizens, we are not people to corporations we are ****ing worthless slaves.

Dude...where the hell do you work? And why the hell are you working there??

jiveturkey
02-20-2012, 01:59 PM
Foxconn???

La literatura
02-20-2012, 02:09 PM
shit like this is just treating us as 2nd class citizens, we are not people to corporations we are ****ing worthless slaves.

I think you've just described a prison, not a professional workplace. Why would a rational person continue to work at a place that was operated like a prison?

There are at least two sides to every story, so I'm not going to use your anecdotes as the final word of working for a corporation.

Working in fear and hatred can't be a productive work environment. It goes against all modern-day American economic understanding that managers and executives wouldn't want to make their workers somewhat happy and wanting to have a positive stake in the business.

KILLER_CLOWN
02-20-2012, 02:10 PM
I prefer owning my own business, but that's just me. ;)

prhom
02-20-2012, 02:15 PM
Dude...where the hell do you work? And why the hell are you working there??

The chiefs? They're probably watching what he types on here right now.

prhom
02-20-2012, 02:20 PM
bullshit. I have a BSE, I have never been fired or written up in the past 10 years. I do my job very well but it doesn't really matter. Everybody is completely expendable, that's the point and I never break policy, I take what I do very seriously and it still doesn't matter. I never even bring my cell phone into work, I always turn if off and leave it in the car. So **** you, you don't know shit.

Things I've seen people get fired for in my venture in corporate america:

1. 12+ hour shifts are commonplace and if you want a break, expect to get your hours docked on the next schedule, so I saw one girl get fired because she tried to eat a powerbar off in a corner somewhere. Company policy says you cannot eat anything while on the clock fired. But she just wanted sustenance to make it 12 hours.

2. A girl was 20 minutes late for the first time because she got in a car wreck that wasn't her fault. FIRED.

3. Drinking water or going to the bathroom is allowed but frowned upon.

4. Fired if you don't sign the break waiver.

5. Dozens of people fired because they lost their nametag for a second time, first time is a final written warning.

6. Dozens of people fired because a curse word slipped out, not towards anybody however.

7. Dozens of people having a cell phone on their person, turned off but the manager could see the buldge in their pockets so they would ask them to empty their pockets and just having a phone on your person is FIRED.

8. One guys mom called because someone died and he got fired. Personal phone calls are not allowed.

and the list goes on and on and on

shit like this is just treating us as 2nd class citizens, we are not people to corporations we are ****ing worthless slaves.

I'm curious why you even started at a place like this? I mean 10 years ago everything was mostly fine and dandy. You should have had better options? If not, you probably should have picked a different degree/career. Most places I've worked with 12 hr shifts are as draconian as what you've described, which leads me to think you're either exaggerating or should schedule a meeting with a labor law attorney.

jiveturkey
02-20-2012, 02:26 PM
Bump - do you work for one of the large Engineering firms in the KC area?

I've heard horror stories that aren't that far from what you're saying.

Bump
02-20-2012, 02:32 PM
I did leave that company but the new one isnt as extreme but its very similair. I wont mention where, what or who but thats the direction corporations have gone. I need to get out of corporate america and work for a smaller company. Even for lower pay, but i dont see much out there

Bump
02-20-2012, 02:34 PM
I prefer owning my own business, but that's just me. ;)


Thats my dream, aside from my poker career taking off :D i just need about $500k to get it started

notorious
02-20-2012, 02:40 PM
Bump, not to be rough on you, but bitching isn't going to get you anywhere.


Change your job, change your location, just flat out ****ing change, because the world isn't going to change for YOU.

I hate when people complain when they hold the power to change the situation.

Bump
02-20-2012, 02:47 PM
I intend to make that big change, it just cant happen right now. In the next year or 2 i will either be moving to Cali or Montana and back to school and legal weed.

Bump
02-20-2012, 02:49 PM
And no, i dont smoke weed if i have to work. Only at night, it gives me something to look forward to.

alnorth
02-20-2012, 02:55 PM
Some context: this 88 million includes everyone not working (except those in prison) from age 15 to 65. There's a good reason why our unemployment rate does not include everyone without a job: a lot of them are students, retired, disabled, stay-at-home moms, or otherwise have no need for a job.

The leading edge of the baby-boomer generation has JUST hit 65, the biggest bulge is still coming (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005067.html) (those 1950 babies just now hit age 62, and 1957 is still yet to come), people live to 65 more often, and a lot of people don't wait till 65 to retire, especially since you can choose to take social security at 62 (and you are heavily disincentivised on your taxes to both work and collect social security unless you are over 70). We should expect the "not in the labor force" number to go up, even if the economy were in recovery.

From January 2011 to January 2012 (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t16.htm), "discouraged workers" did go up a little, by about 66,000, but the total number not in the labor force went up by about 2.5 million. A lot of those people are baby boomers who just decided to hang it up and sign up for social security.

notorious
02-20-2012, 03:02 PM
I prefer owning my own business, but that's just me. ;)

How can you sleep being such an evil employer?


Me? I sleep very well. :fire:

KILLER_CLOWN
02-20-2012, 03:05 PM
How can you sleep being such an evil employer?


Me? I sleep very well. :fire:

I am small, and want to stay that way. My employees really like me because my bottom line is not just making money but how you do it. It doesn't hurt i used to work for one of these mega corps and hated how it operated.

notorious
02-20-2012, 03:08 PM
I am small, and want to stay that way. My employees really like me because my bottom line is not just making money but how you do it. It doesn't hurt i used to work for one of these mega corps and hated how it operated.


I go by the same philosophy.



Do the job right, not fast, and the rest will take care of itself.

jiveturkey
02-20-2012, 03:08 PM
I've run my own biz in the past and probably will again in the future. I do more of the consulting type of work and have found that dealing with employees is not my cup of tea.

For the time being I'll enjoy the corporate ride. They're not all bad.

Dave Lane
02-20-2012, 03:09 PM
You do realize that 88 million includes the retired, the under 16 and mentally retarded. So you are probably in there, and the 25 million that are actually out of work.

Same as the stupidest number of all. Those that don't pay taxes. But in that case it also includes the poor and the very rich.

Chiefshrink
02-20-2012, 03:39 PM
Those that are ending their unemployment are now starting to apply for SS disability. Saw a report on Cavuto today. Just damn sad:rolleyes:

HonestChieffan
02-20-2012, 07:30 PM
Don't confuse the left with facts

Brainiac
02-20-2012, 08:08 PM
Working for corporate america sucks, low pay and they keep increasing work load without an increase in pay just so they can get more rich while all of their workers struggle. I do it and I hate it, there is nothing I can do to better my work situation atm, there are 50 applications coming in a week and my bosses mentality which is straight from corporate is if I don't like it, I'll just be fired and get another employee tomorrow. Every corporation has a list of values that they proudly display but never are actually true, they are all the same. We struggle, they get rich, no loyalty in fact I'm pretty sure we are hated as employees even though we bust our ass for 99% of the shift, after working my ass off for 5 straight hours if I get a ****ing glass of water that's considered lowering productivity and have to get a dirty look from my boss. I ****ing hate this shit and this is america today.
Workers of the world unite! Throw off your chains!

HonestChieffan
02-20-2012, 08:29 PM
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/02/20/beyond-blue-5-jobs-jobs-jobs/

Interesting read for the young folks

blaise
02-21-2012, 12:09 AM
bullshit. I have a BSE, I have never been fired or written up in the past 10 years. I do my job very well but it doesn't really matter. Everybody is completely expendable, that's the point and I never break policy, I take what I do very seriously and it still doesn't matter. I never even bring my cell phone into work, I always turn if off and leave it in the car. So **** you, you don't know shit.

Things I've seen people get fired for in my venture in corporate america:

1. 12+ hour shifts are commonplace and if you want a break, expect to get your hours docked on the next schedule, so I saw one girl get fired because she tried to eat a powerbar off in a corner somewhere. Company policy says you cannot eat anything while on the clock fired. But she just wanted sustenance to make it 12 hours.

2. A girl was 20 minutes late for the first time because she got in a car wreck that wasn't her fault. FIRED.

3. Drinking water or going to the bathroom is allowed but frowned upon.

4. Fired if you don't sign the break waiver.

5. Dozens of people fired because they lost their nametag for a second time, first time is a final written warning.

6. Dozens of people fired because a curse word slipped out, not towards anybody however.

7. Dozens of people having a cell phone on their person, turned off but the manager could see the buldge in their pockets so they would ask them to empty their pockets and just having a phone on your person is FIRED.

8. One guys mom called because someone died and he got fired. Personal phone calls are not allowed.

and the list goes on and on and on

shit like this is just treating us as 2nd class citizens, we are not people to corporations we are ****ing worthless slaves.

Company policy says 12 hour shifts and no break, even to eat? Where?

ClevelandBronco
02-21-2012, 12:13 AM
Company policy says 12 hour shifts and no break, even to eat? Where?

The coca fields of the Norte del Valle Cartel, I assume.

BIG_DADDY
02-21-2012, 12:33 AM
bullshit. I have a BSE, I have never been fired or written up in the past 10 years. I do my job very well but it doesn't really matter. Everybody is completely expendable, that's the point and I never break policy, I take what I do very seriously and it still doesn't matter. I never even bring my cell phone into work, I always turn if off and leave it in the car. So **** you, you don't know shit.

Things I've seen people get fired for in my venture in corporate america:

1. 12+ hour shifts are commonplace and if you want a break, expect to get your hours docked on the next schedule, so I saw one girl get fired because she tried to eat a powerbar off in a corner somewhere. Company policy says you cannot eat anything while on the clock fired. But she just wanted sustenance to make it 12 hours.

2. A girl was 20 minutes late for the first time because she got in a car wreck that wasn't her fault. FIRED.

3. Drinking water or going to the bathroom is allowed but frowned upon.

4. Fired if you don't sign the break waiver.

5. Dozens of people fired because they lost their nametag for a second time, first time is a final written warning.

6. Dozens of people fired because a curse word slipped out, not towards anybody however.

7. Dozens of people having a cell phone on their person, turned off but the manager could see the buldge in their pockets so they would ask them to empty their pockets and just having a phone on your person is FIRED.

8. One guys mom called because someone died and he got fired. Personal phone calls are not allowed.

and the list goes on and on and on

shit like this is just treating us as 2nd class citizens, we are not people to corporations we are ****ing worthless slaves.

Totally proposterous. If that is what you think the average person working for corporate America experiences you need to get our and take a look around. My experience was that I could do almost anything I wanted within reason including making my own hours because I was a top performer. I got paid decent but had a glass ceiling and thats why I went into business for myself.

In general we have become a society of entitlement. A bunch of lazy ass losers with no vison, no work ethic and no idea what is even going on in the world we live in voting for anyone we think gives us our best chance at a free handout. The vast majority of our citizens deserve every bad thing that happens to them. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule. I love my country but I don't love what we have become from top to bottom.

Bump
02-21-2012, 01:16 AM
Totally proposterous. If that is what you think the average person working for corporate America experiences you need to get our and take a look around. My experience was that I could do almost anything I wanted within reason including making my own hours because I was a top performer. I got paid decent but had a glass ceiling and thats why I went into business for myself.

In general we have become a society of entitlement. A bunch of lazy ass losers with no vison, no work ethic and no idea what is even going on in the world we live in voting for anyone we think gives us our best chance at a free handout. The vast majority of our citizens deserve every bad thing that happens to them. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule. I love my country but I don't love what we have become from top to bottom.

I've never received a handout from the government, not ever and have never requested or expected one.

ClevelandBronco
02-21-2012, 01:27 AM
I've never received a handout from the government, not ever and have never requested or expected one.

I don't think that was really what he was talking about.

Kyle DeLexus
02-21-2012, 01:37 AM
bullshit. I have a BSE, I have never been fired or written up in the past 10 years. I do my job very well but it doesn't really matter. Everybody is completely expendable, that's the point and I never break policy, I take what I do very seriously and it still doesn't matter. I never even bring my cell phone into work, I always turn if off and leave it in the car. So **** you, you don't know shit.

Things I've seen people get fired for in my venture in corporate america:

1. 12+ hour shifts are commonplace and if you want a break, expect to get your hours docked on the next schedule, so I saw one girl get fired because she tried to eat a powerbar off in a corner somewhere. Company policy says you cannot eat anything while on the clock fired. But she just wanted sustenance to make it 12 hours.

2. A girl was 20 minutes late for the first time because she got in a car wreck that wasn't her fault. FIRED.

3. Drinking water or going to the bathroom is allowed but frowned upon.

4. Fired if you don't sign the break waiver.

5. Dozens of people fired because they lost their nametag for a second time, first time is a final written warning.

6. Dozens of people fired because a curse word slipped out, not towards anybody however.

7. Dozens of people having a cell phone on their person, turned off but the manager could see the buldge in their pockets so they would ask them to empty their pockets and just having a phone on your person is FIRED.

8. One guys mom called because someone died and he got fired. Personal phone calls are not allowed.

and the list goes on and on and on

shit like this is just treating us as 2nd class citizens, we are not people to corporations we are ****ing worthless slaves.

So the places you have worked do not have drug policies?

BIG_DADDY
02-21-2012, 09:37 AM
I've never received a handout from the government, not ever and have never requested or expected one.

I was addressing you personally in the first paragraph. The second was statement to what it is we have become as a society. I can tell you after 30 years of hiring that our workforce quality has dropped off of a cliff.

jiveturkey
02-21-2012, 09:50 AM
I was addressing you personally in the first paragraph. The second was statement to what it is we have become as a society. I can tell you after 30 years of hiring that our workforce quality has dropped off of a cliff.
I've been doing it for 12 and the talent pool is pretty shallow.

Amnorix
02-21-2012, 10:01 AM
bullshit. I have a BSE, I have never been fired or written up in the past 10 years. I do my job very well but it doesn't really matter. Everybody is completely expendable, that's the point and I never break policy, I take what I do very seriously and it still doesn't matter. I never even bring my cell phone into work, I always turn if off and leave it in the car. So **** you, you don't know shit.

Things I've seen people get fired for in my venture in corporate america:

1. 12+ hour shifts are commonplace and if you want a break, expect to get your hours docked on the next schedule, so I saw one girl get fired because she tried to eat a powerbar off in a corner somewhere. Company policy says you cannot eat anything while on the clock fired. But she just wanted sustenance to make it 12 hours.

2. A girl was 20 minutes late for the first time because she got in a car wreck that wasn't her fault. FIRED.

3. Drinking water or going to the bathroom is allowed but frowned upon.

4. Fired if you don't sign the break waiver.

5. Dozens of people fired because they lost their nametag for a second time, first time is a final written warning.

6. Dozens of people fired because a curse word slipped out, not towards anybody however.

7. Dozens of people having a cell phone on their person, turned off but the manager could see the buldge in their pockets so they would ask them to empty their pockets and just having a phone on your person is FIRED.

8. One guys mom called because someone died and he got fired. Personal phone calls are not allowed.

and the list goes on and on and on

shit like this is just treating us as 2nd class citizens, we are not people to corporations we are ****ing worthless slaves.


Well, if you get hours docked, then you're working an hourly job and making time and a half and everything else under FLSA. I'm no labor law expert, but I think there are also rules around breaks/lunch for hours worked under those laws also, so I'm really wondering WTF is going on? Are you working at a diamond mine in some third world country??

mlyonsd
02-21-2012, 10:04 AM
Well, if you get hours docked, then you're working an hourly job and making time and a half and everything else under FLSA. I'm no labor law expert, but I think there are also rules around breaks/lunch for hours worked under those laws also, so I'm really wondering WTF is going on? Are you working at a diamond mine in some third world country??Or a cell phone manufacturer in China.

LOCOChief
02-21-2012, 10:40 AM
You're 21 years old. Some college? No college? You're completely expendable, and most likely, you don't do a great job, and spend most of your time on facebook or other websites, like chiefsplanet.

I think someone here said that you work for your parents , is that true?

vailpass
02-21-2012, 10:43 AM
I think someone here said that you work for your parents , is that true?

How dare you accuse Gypsum of participating in that four letter word?

LOCOChief
02-21-2012, 10:48 AM
How dare you accuse Gypsum of participating in that four letter word?


I guess he/she fits right in with the OP

vailpass
02-21-2012, 11:17 AM
I guess he/she fits right in with the OP

He's a grad student.

Bump
02-21-2012, 11:53 AM
Well, if you get hours docked, then you're working an hourly job and making time and a half and everything else under FLSA. I'm no labor law expert, but I think there are also rules around breaks/lunch for hours worked under those laws also, so I'm really wondering WTF is going on? Are you working at a diamond mine in some third world country??

you can demand a break there, but it's heavily frowned upon but they allow it because of the law. But if you do take 30 minute breaks on 12-17 hour shifts they shit on you because of it.

La literatura
02-21-2012, 12:13 PM
I think someone here said that you work for your parents , is that true?

No, it is not true.

blaise
02-21-2012, 12:29 PM
you can demand a break there, but it's heavily frowned upon but they allow it because of the law. But if you do take 30 minute breaks on 12-17 hour shifts they shit on you because of it.

Then they're asking for a lawsuit.