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saphojunkie
02-21-2012, 06:38 PM
Reading on ESPN rumors that the Raiders are still 11 mil over the cap, and that other cuts are likely coming before free agency starts.

Players speculated to be on the chopping block:

Kamerion Wimbley (11 mil cap hit)

Aaron Curry (5.75 mil)

Michael Huff (9.8 mil)

Tommy Kelly (6 mil)

John Henderson (4 mil)

I'd be really, really excited to see Kamerion Wimbley in a Chiefs jersey. He's from Kansas and was drafted by Crennel in Cleveland (11 sacks as a rookie).

His last two years in Oakland he's had 7 and 9 sacks. I think he could be an excellent addition to a defense that needs more pressure on the QB.

Wouldn't mind seeing Michael Huff take John McGraw's place, either. As much as I despise the Raiders, I do think they've had a surplus of talent on the defensive side. I wouldn't mind pilfering from their stores this offseason. Strengthen your team while weakening your enemy's...I like it.

O.city
02-21-2012, 06:39 PM
I'd take Wimbley and Huff in a heart beat

KCrockaholic
02-21-2012, 06:39 PM
Wimbley would be pretty damn awesome with this team. Hali, Houston, Wimbley would be one scary ass trio.

BoneKrusher
02-21-2012, 06:40 PM
Wimbley would be pretty damn awesome with this team. Hali, Houston, Wimbley would be one scary ass duo.

w/o a doubt. :thumb:

Saul Good
02-21-2012, 06:40 PM
Wimbley would be pretty damn awesome with this team. Hali, Houston, Wimbley would be one scary ass duo.

It would be an even scarier trio.

KCrockaholic
02-21-2012, 06:41 PM
It would be an even scarier trio.

Ha. My bad. I'm watchin the game and typing at the same time.

bricks
02-21-2012, 06:41 PM
I'd take Wimbley and Huff in a heart beat

Yup. I agree with this. I'd even take Tommy Kelly.

Sofa King
02-21-2012, 06:41 PM
It would be an even scarier trio.

LMAO Beat me to it.

O.city
02-21-2012, 06:42 PM
As much as I hate the Raiders, they would bring some nastiness to the defense.

bricks
02-21-2012, 06:43 PM
As much as I hate the Raiders, they would bring some nastiness to the defense.

Which is what this team exactly needs.

O.city
02-21-2012, 06:44 PM
I know I meant that as a good thing. Guess I ddint' specify enough. My bad.


Wimbley is a physical just nasty dude. I'd love it.

SNR
02-21-2012, 06:53 PM
Raidersification of the Chiefs

saphojunkie
02-21-2012, 07:07 PM
Raidersification of the Chiefs

I like to think of it as the de-talentization of the Raiders.

I'm really hoping the Crennel connection brings Wimbley here, assuming he is let go. The more pressure we get on the QB, the less it will hurt to lose Brandon Carr.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:09 PM
What would Wimbley play here though? Is he an OLB?

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:09 PM
If it came down to it and he would take it, I'd rather give Gilberry's money to Wimbley and bring in another DE.

KCrockaholic
02-21-2012, 07:09 PM
I like to think of it as the de-talentization of the Raiders.

I'm really hoping the Crennel connection brings Wimbley here, assuming he is let go. The more pressure we get on the QB, the less it will hurt to lose Brandon Carr.

If we can get a stout, line controlling NT, the entire defense will get faster and better.

KCrockaholic
02-21-2012, 07:09 PM
What would Wimbley play here though? Is he an OLB?

Yes.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:13 PM
Houston, Hali, Wimbley.


That's a nasty bunch.

Jesus.

Saul Good
02-21-2012, 07:14 PM
Houston, Hali, Wimbley.


That's a nasty bunch.

Jesus.

Don't forget Johnson.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:19 PM
Would Wimbley be able to play inside or he is an olb?

KCrockaholic
02-21-2012, 07:20 PM
Don't forget Johnson.

He's just talkin about our pass rushers. OLB group.

Sofa King
02-21-2012, 07:22 PM
Honestly, i don't see a guy on that list i want or think we need.

Deberg_1990
02-21-2012, 07:25 PM
I wish they would cut Richard Seymore.

beach tribe
02-21-2012, 07:25 PM
I wonder if we could sign Huff, and Routt for what Carr gets.
Huff and Lewis would just set the FS spot the fuck off.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:26 PM
If the Giants showed us something, you can never have to many pass rushers.


Maybe we are gonna go all free agency on defense and draft on offense?

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:26 PM
I wonder if we could sign Huff, and Routt for what Carr gets.
Huff and Lewis would just set the FS spot the **** off.

Thats actually something to think about.


Those two would be balls in the secondary.

beach tribe
02-21-2012, 07:29 PM
The Raiders really suck balls at this whole cap thing.

the Talking Can
02-21-2012, 07:31 PM
they traded for curry and now might cut him?

brilliant

the Talking Can
02-21-2012, 07:32 PM
houston is going to be better than wimbley as soon as next year

RustShack
02-21-2012, 07:32 PM
The Raiders really suck balls at this whole cap thing.

Most Chiefs fans are mad that Pioli doesn't suck at it.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:33 PM
I don't know about you guys but Routt and Griffin at the same price that Carr woudl cost is interesting.


Those two, Soliai, would make this defense pretty crazy good.

Hell throw Wimbley in there too if you want. I'm taking all the Raiders.

KCrockaholic
02-21-2012, 07:33 PM
they traded for curry and now might cut him?

brilliant

Curry actually looked decent with them.

They might as well cut Palmer while they're at it. He was Hue's guy anyways haha.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:33 PM
houston is going to be better than wimbley as soon as next year

I agree, but having both wouldn't be problematic at all.

the Talking Can
02-21-2012, 07:37 PM
I agree, but having both wouldn't be problematic at all.

we have hali and houston....not sure where you fit wimbley in

houston, hali, and dj are 3 down backers

beach tribe
02-21-2012, 07:39 PM
I agree, but having both wouldn't be problematic at all.
Did anyone notice that Houston started using his hands the way Tamba has perfected to get by Ts later in the season last year. Hali seems like the kind of guy that would have Zero problem helping a younger player out.
Houston is going to be an absolute BEAST. I'm almost sure of it.
But like someone said about the Giants, it can never hurt to stack the roster with pass rushers.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:39 PM
I agree, but you can never have too many pass rushers. You could go sets where you have 2 down lineman in Jackson and Bailey, with all three of those guys out there.

KCrockaholic
02-21-2012, 07:39 PM
we have hali and houston....not sure where you fit wimbley in

houston, hali, and dj are 3 down backers

IDK, how does NY make JPP, Osi, and Tuck work? You put them in the game and send their ass after the QB.

the Talking Can
02-21-2012, 07:40 PM
I agree, but you can never have too many pass rushers. You could go sets where you have 2 down lineman in Jackson and Bailey, with all three of those guys out there.

sounds like fun...in madden

KCrockaholic
02-21-2012, 07:40 PM
I agree, but you can never have too many pass rushers. You could go sets where you have 2 down lineman in Jackson and Bailey, with all three of those guys out there.

That. And take Belcher out on 3rd down.

Saul Good
02-21-2012, 07:41 PM
I wouldn't mind being able to rotate three to get Hali some rest. He would be more effective if he could stay fresh.

the Talking Can
02-21-2012, 07:41 PM
IDK, how does NY make JPP, Osi, and Tuck work? You put them in the game and send their ass after the QB.

they run a 4-3 and use jpp on the line

but otherwise a spot on comparison

Tribal Warfare
02-21-2012, 07:41 PM
we have hali and houston....not sure where you fit wimbley in

houston, hali, and dj are 3 down backers

rotation and depth, if one one goes down then you are anally fucked with certain packages you want to run.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:41 PM
sounds like fun...in madden

It's exactly what the 9ers did at times this year.


Pass rushers, like wr's is something that you can never have too many of.

beach tribe
02-21-2012, 07:42 PM
Good Lord. Bailey is another one that looks like he's gonna be a nightmare on 3rd downs.

KCrockaholic
02-21-2012, 07:42 PM
You could have a defensive alignment along the lines of...

Hali-Wimbley Johnson Houston
Bailey Jackson

Use a base nickel package on the backend.





My diagram looked better when I typed it.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:42 PM
In nickel and dime stuff, could Wimbley move inside and rush?

Tribal Warfare
02-21-2012, 07:42 PM
Pass rushers, like wr's is something that you can never have too many of.

I concur, look at the Giants

beach tribe
02-21-2012, 07:43 PM
I wouldn't mind being able to rotate three to get Hali some rest. He would be more effective if he could stay fresh.

Yup. did you see him against GB? If we had another viable option he would have come out of the game.

the Talking Can
02-21-2012, 07:44 PM
It's exactly what the 9ers did at times this year.


Pass rushers, like wr's is something that you can never have too many of.

i'd love to have wimbley as a back up..but pioli ain't paying a starting olb to be a backup...

and neither were the 49ers

KCrockaholic
02-21-2012, 07:44 PM
In nickel and dime stuff, could Wimbley move inside and rush?

We don't know because he's never done it that I am aware of. He probably could cause some problems. But if you saw some of the pass rush situations we used in preseason with Hali and Sheffield both standing up on the weak side, we could use something like that.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:45 PM
No but the 9ers will have too in a few years when Aldon comes contract up. He was just a pass rusher this year.

No way will Wimbley make what he made in oakland.

O.city
02-21-2012, 07:46 PM
I know you start 11 guys on both sides, but you essentially play about 18 or 19 with subpackages.

I only want Wimbley if he comes at the right price though.

saphojunkie
03-16-2012, 03:26 PM
Well, Wimbley just got cut. Please please please let his connection to Romeo give us a leg-up.

Micjones
03-16-2012, 03:41 PM
If it came down to it and he would take it, I'd rather give Gilberry's money to Wimbley and bring in another DE.

Wimbley money > Gilberry money

That guy should get pretty good coin out there.
He's still very productive.

I'd love to have him, but there's only so much money to go around.