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smittysbar
02-22-2012, 06:54 PM
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="news-name">Chad Henne (http://www.thehuddle.com/nfl/player/8834/) - QB - Miami Dolphins </td> <td class="news-date">Posted 2/22/12 6:28pm et http://www.thehuddle.com/images/facebook_thumb.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http://www.thehuddle.com/fantasy_football_news.php&t=Chad+Henne+-+KC+might+take+a+look+at+Chad+Henne) http://www.thehuddle.com/images/twitter_thumb2.gif (http://www.twitter.com/?status=@TheHuddle.com+Chad+Henne+-+KC+might+take+a+look+at+Chad+Henne+-+http://www.thehuddle.com/fantasy_football_news.php)</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="news-item"> The Kansas City Chiefs could look to sign Miami Dolphins impending free-agent QB Chad Henne to compete with QB Matt Cassel during training camp.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="news-impact"> Huddle Up: Henne wouldn't be a bad fit in Kansas City and he could ultimately prove to be real competition for Cassel. New OC Brian Daboll doesn't have an allegiance to Cassel. Over his career Henne has 31 starts and a 60.7 percent completion rate. Cassel has 54 starts and a 59.0 completion rate.

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ChiefGator
02-22-2012, 06:54 PM
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 06:55 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

O.city
02-22-2012, 06:55 PM
Atleast he's young.

kcpasco
02-22-2012, 06:56 PM
Lets get rid of crap for more crap. YES

jd1020
02-22-2012, 06:56 PM
Another young QB who has shown more potential than Clausen in the NFL. I wouldn't be opposed to either.

O.city
02-22-2012, 06:57 PM
I gotta agree with jd.


He's shown some things.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-22-2012, 06:58 PM
Shut the fuck up.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 06:58 PM
Another young QB who has shown more potential than Clausen in the NFL. I wouldn't be opposed to either.

This is a fact.

RustShack
02-22-2012, 07:03 PM
I'm guessing whoever wrote that didn't know that Daboll was pushing for the Dolphins to trade for Kyle Orton before the start of last season.

Crush
02-22-2012, 07:04 PM
Fuck you Pioli.

milkman
02-22-2012, 07:07 PM
I'm guessing whoever wrote that didn't know that Daboll was pushing for the Dolphins to trade for Kyle Orton before the start of last season.

You got a link that shows that DaBoll was the one pushing for that trade?

BigMeatballDave
02-22-2012, 07:10 PM
Finally. True QB competition...

WV
02-22-2012, 07:10 PM
If he means Casshole doesn't start sign him up!

salame
02-22-2012, 07:12 PM
why not have two matt cassels

YayMike
02-22-2012, 07:16 PM
welll, fuck...

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:19 PM
I had never paid much attention to Henne, after reading about him a little he seems kind of interesting.


Seems like he got jerked around in Miami after having some pretty good games and some injuries.

He's still pretty young and would be getting a fresh start.

Who knows.

AustinChief
02-22-2012, 07:21 PM
Henne is more accurate AND has a stronger arm. While not exactly the franchise QB we want, he would be an upgrade over Cassel.

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:21 PM
Maybe some one could give me a good rundown on the guy, someone who has watched Miami play more than myself?

J Diddy
02-22-2012, 07:23 PM
This isn't going to happen. I heard the Dolphin's players were glad to get rid of Daboll.

Why would one follow him here?

cardken
02-22-2012, 07:25 PM
Lord have mercy on this busted ass, cheap organization. LOL. Never ceases to amaze me.

jd1020
02-22-2012, 07:26 PM
This isn't going to happen. I heard the Dolphin's players were glad to get rid of Daboll.

Why would one follow him here?

You heard a report on hearsay based on "one prominent player."

How many guesses do you need to guess who that might have been. They only have 2.

Gonzo
02-22-2012, 07:27 PM
Fuck You Scott. Right in the ass.

Epic Fail 007
02-22-2012, 07:27 PM
Henne would beat cassel

RustShack
02-22-2012, 07:28 PM
You heard a report on hearsay based on "one prominent player."

How many guesses do you need to guess who that might have been. They only have 2.

Also, players like Larry Fitzgerald LOVED Todd Haley. Worked out well for us didn't it?

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:28 PM
I remember watching Henne alot at Michigan. Was always pretty impressed.


He's had some good games at qb in the NFL, seems to have had some injury problems though.

Hog Farmer
02-22-2012, 07:30 PM
Henne is more accurate AND has a stronger arm. While not exactly the franchise QB we want, he would be an upgrade over Cassel.

If you are right then this is good. I don't expect Pioli is gonna sign a downgrade to the position.

J Diddy
02-22-2012, 07:30 PM
You heard a report on hearsay based on "one prominent player."

How many guesses do you need to guess who that might have been. They only have 2.

I was being sarcastic.

Agent V
02-22-2012, 07:33 PM
Henne would beat cassel

Well, fuck. Kiss of death right there.^

I'm gonna watch some Dolphins games because I've seen ZERO Chad Henne play. Gonna edumacate myself.

Bump
02-22-2012, 07:34 PM
It might be better than Cassel, FML

Simplicity
02-22-2012, 07:35 PM
Sign him up... Younger, Better...ish, and not to much money (cheap ****ers!!!)... Oh and his name reminds me of hiney.

jd1020
02-22-2012, 07:35 PM
Well, ****. Kiss of death right there.^

I'm gonna watch some Dolphins games because I've seen ZERO Chad Henne play. Gonna edumacate myself.

Just imagine Cassel with a better arm and you've seen Henne.

Cassel probably protects the ball better than Henne, though.

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:35 PM
Henne played qb in college and was a second rounder. He's 4 years younger and has more experience playing qb than our starter.

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:36 PM
So jd, what do you think of Henne?


Worth it?

Simplicity
02-22-2012, 07:36 PM
Just imagine Cassel with a better arm and you've seen Henne.

Not a chance... Henne is far more superior then Casshole.

Count Alex's Losses
02-22-2012, 07:37 PM
BURN IT

BURN IT

BURN IT

http://i39.tinypic.com/345ou54.jpg

Matty, you're the king of the world! *pushes him into the atlantic and embraces Henne*

http://i40.tinypic.com/yjqu.jpg

mcaj22
02-22-2012, 07:37 PM
Henne would absolutely beat Cassel out in training camp and preseason and then the media would come down like a reign of fire on Pioli and the team if they still backed/started Cassel.

This is too close to true competition. I seriously dont think we will ever see real competition at the QB for Cassel, he's too protected. I imagine when they say "competition" they mean some backup turd like Derrek Anderson

CoMoChief
02-22-2012, 07:37 PM
Is Orton really wanting THAT much that we have to go after Henne instead?

jd1020
02-22-2012, 07:38 PM
So jd, what do you think of Henne?


Worth it?

Yes.

He's young. He has more tools to work with than Cassel. There's more talent in KC to somewhat hide the short comings.

There's no reason he couldn't be the Chiefs version of Flacco and Flacco is good enough to win.

jspchief
02-22-2012, 07:39 PM
I remember watching Henne alot at Michigan. Was always pretty impressed.


He's had some good games at qb in the NFL, seems to have had some injury problems though.

I seem to remember him having a really promising freshman year, then never really improving on it.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 07:40 PM
Is Orton really wanting THAT much that we have to go after Henne instead?

No.

Orton would just beat Cassel out for sure.

Pioli can't have that. He needs to bring in someone who can 'compete' and 'push' Cassel...but someone who can't beat out Cassel.

Agent V
02-22-2012, 07:40 PM
I can see the upside, from what I'm hearing about Henne. Since this team won't draft a quarterback, I could see Henne being "good enough to win." Especially with our defense. Not crazy about it, but I'll watch him play first.

Fuck Matt Cassel.

jd1020
02-22-2012, 07:40 PM
Not a chance... Henne is far more superior then Casshole.

They are both inconsistent as hell.

Henne has a better arm but also turns the ball over a lot more.

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:40 PM
I seem to remember him having a really promising freshman year, then never really improving on it.

I can't remember, been too many tests between then and now.


I think the guy would be a huge upgrade. He would seem to get things goin in Miami, with not a ton of talent, then have an injury.

Epic Fail 007
02-22-2012, 07:41 PM
All of you lol calling the chiefs cheap.Then we look at the steelers they never spend money.They get their core and they ride with it.About the qbs any name they bring up I think all you girls will bitch and moan.There just are not many qbs out there.Henne is good young qb so is clausen.If u idiot haters want cassel unseeded your gonna have to take what you get.Fact is any qb would beat cassel.Hell bring old Jeff george in he would shine.Theres a lot of bitching go on here just to bitch like a ****in 5th grade classroom in here.

Baconeater
02-22-2012, 07:42 PM
No.

Orton would just beat Cassel out for sure.

Pioli can't have that. He needs to bring in someone who can 'compete' and 'push' Cassel...but someone who can't beat out Cassel.
Exactly. I won't buy into this "competition for Cassel" horseshit until I see his sorry ass sitting on the bench.

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:42 PM
Dude space out your posts.



That drivel is tough enough to read based on your logic alone.

Agent V
02-22-2012, 07:43 PM
All of you lol calling the chiefs cheap.Then we look at the steelers they never spend money.They get their core and they ride with it.About the qbs any name they bring up I think all you girls will bitch and moan.There just are not many qbs out there.Henne is good young qb so is clausen.If u idiot hater want cassel unseeded your gonna have to take what you get.Fact is any qb would beat cassel.Hell bring old Jeff george in he would shine.Theres a lot of bitching go on here just to bitch like a fuckin 5th grade classroom in here.

Spaces go after the periods. Like that. See? That. See the space? After each one. Like that.

Tuckdaddy
02-22-2012, 07:43 PM
Henne? Why the hell not? He's younger and better than Matt right now. He will be cheap, and seeing how we will never draft a QB and give them the job anyway, he's as good as any.

Anybody but Matt. We've seen enough of him.

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:44 PM
I need to talk to an old roomate about Henne, he was a big Phins fan.


I remember Henne always passing the eye test, which doesn't mean much.

jd1020
02-22-2012, 07:44 PM
This sums up Henne...

11/28 @ OAK 17 30 56.7 307 10.2 2 1 100.3

12/05 CLE 16 32 50.0 174 5.4 1 3 37.8

Agent V
02-22-2012, 07:44 PM
Exactly. I won't buy into this "competition for Cassel" horseshit until I see his sorry ass sitting on the bench.

Agreed. I haven't bought any Chiefs shit since before the season started, and I won't until Cassel is benched, traded, or released.

Not that my personal boycott has much of an effect, but for reasons of principle, I'm sticking with it.

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:46 PM
This sums up Henne...

11/28 @ OAK 17 30 56.7 307 10.2 2 1 100.3

12/05 CLE 16 32 50.0 174 5.4 1 3 37.8

So just inconsistent?


Hell he put up better numbers in those games than our guy usually does.


If I remember correctly, Miami wasn't ubber talented on the offensive side of the ball.

whoman69
02-22-2012, 07:46 PM
Why did I figure competition for Cassel meant every failed prospect out there? If Henne beats him out, then Cassel can come in and be our savior to another 7 win season.

Simplicity
02-22-2012, 07:47 PM
All of you lol calling the chiefs cheap.Then we look at the steelers they never spend money.They get their core and they ride with it.About the qbs any name they bring up I think all you girls will bitch and moan.There just are not many qbs out there.Henne is good young qb so is clausen.If u idiot haters want cassel unseeded your gonna have to take what you get.Fact is any qb would beat cassel.Hell bring old Jeff george in he would shine.Theres a lot of bitching go on here just to bitch like a ****in 5th grade classroom in here.

How are you not banned yet?

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:49 PM
Seems to me that a high percentage of quarterbacks have to be in the right situation to be successful. Not many guys are gonna come in and be great right away.


Hell 2 or 3 years from now, Matt Ryan might be on the open market.

Maybe KC woudl be the perfect situation for Henne. We won't know till we try.

milkman
02-22-2012, 07:49 PM
All of you lol calling the chiefs cheap.Then we look at the steelers they never spend money.They get their core and they ride with it.About the qbs any name they bring up I think all you girls will bitch and moan.There just are not many qbs out there.Henne is good young qb so is clausen.If u idiot haters want cassel unseeded your gonna have to take what you get.Fact is any qb would beat cassel.Hell bring old Jeff george in he would shine.Theres a lot of bitching go on here just to bitch like a ****in 5th grade classroom in here.

Yeah, the Steelers never spend.

That's why they are among the teams with the most cap space, and never find themselves having to make cuts to get under the cap.












Oh.....wait.

Baconeater
02-22-2012, 07:49 PM
How are you not banned yet?
Unfortunately stupidity, no matter how extreme, is not a bannable offense.

Gonzo
02-22-2012, 07:51 PM
All of you lol calling the chiefs cheap.Then we look at the steelers they never spend money.They get their core and they ride with it.About the qbs any name they bring up I think all you girls will bitch and moan.There just are not many qbs out there.Henne is good young qb so is clausen.If u idiot haters want cassel unseeded your gonna have to take what you get.Fact is any qb would beat cassel.Hell bring old Jeff george in he would shine.Theres a lot of bitching go on here just to bitch like a ****in 5th grade classroom in here.

HERP DERP DERP HERP DERPINDY DERP HERP DERP

Gonzo
02-22-2012, 07:52 PM
Unfortunately stupidity, no matter how extreme, is not a bannable offense.

Yep, I can't ban stupid.

J Diddy
02-22-2012, 07:54 PM
Everybody needs to hold on. Just wait a minute.

I mean did anybody check the madden ratings on this guy yet?

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 07:55 PM
Go to youtube and search "chad henne".

Skim through the titles of the first 20 or so videos.

Mr. Chad Henne doesn't seem to be a popular figure...

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:56 PM
I noticed that Tomahawk.

ChiefsCountry
02-22-2012, 07:57 PM
Brady Fucking Quinn
Posted via Mobile Device

O.city
02-22-2012, 07:57 PM
Who would be more of an upgrade, Henne or Orton?

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 07:59 PM
Who would be more of an upgrade, Henne or Orton?

Orton.

Not even close.

Henne has yet to play a full season....and averages more ints than he does TDs.

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:00 PM
I agree about Orton.


I don't think there is anyway he is here though.

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:01 PM
When is the combine?

jd1020
02-22-2012, 08:03 PM
When is the combine?

Started today, I think.

Ends next week.

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:04 PM
Yep, today till next Tuesday.

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 08:07 PM
All of you lol calling the chiefs cheap.Then we look at the steelers they never spend money.They get their core and they ride with it.About the qbs any name they bring up I think all you girls will bitch and moan.There just are not many qbs out there.Henne is good young qb so is clausen.If u idiot haters want cassel unseeded your gonna have to take what you get.Fact is any qb would beat cassel.Hell bring old Jeff george in he would shine.Theres a lot of bitching go on here just to bitch like a ****in 5th grade classroom in here.

shut the fuck up and kill yourself you asshole

Iowanian
02-22-2012, 08:08 PM
I'm starting to think these dumb sonnabitches don't want me to like their team anymore.

The other day, my 3 year old asked me for a patriots hat, because she apparently likes the Pats now. I didn't even tell her she was a Chiefs fan. My kids can choose any team they want, except Denver or LAOAKland

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 08:11 PM
what is the point of bringing in steve bono to compete with matt cassel?

does anyone in this franchise even give a shit?

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:12 PM
I was waiting for the TC to come in and bash this.

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:13 PM
I'm to lazy to look Talking Can, but what is your solution to the qb problem.

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 08:15 PM
I'm to lazy to look Talking Can, but what is your solution to the qb problem.

to admit we have one and do what has been obvious for 30 fucking years...draft a QB in the first round...


how in the fuck can this not be obvious?

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 08:15 PM
I'm to lazy to look Talking Can, but what is your solution to the qb problem.

He will say something like trade whatever it takes for RG3...

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 08:15 PM
I was waiting for the TC to come in and bash this.

why in the name of christ would you be excited about chad henne?

is there any piece of crap player out there you don't love?

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 08:17 PM
He will say something like trade whatever it takes for RG3...

it's hilarious, you say that like it's a bad idea...

but hey let's all jerk off in our faces to Chad Orton

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:18 PM
to admit we have one and do what has been obvious for 30 ****ing years...draft a QB in the first round...


how in the **** can this not be obvious?

I think everyone here agrees with you. Problem is, who the fuck in the first round should we draft where we are sitting?

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 08:18 PM
it's hilarious, you say that like it's a bad idea...

but hey let's all jerk off in our faces to Chad Orton

I say it as it is an unrealistic one...

jd1020
02-22-2012, 08:19 PM
I think everyone here agrees with you. Problem is, who the **** in the first round should we draft where we are sitting?

I've heard rumors of Luck having a mental breakdown and falling to 12.

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:21 PM
I get the frustration from some. But just saying "draft a 1st round quarterback" does nothing for the argument. There has to be one there to draft int he first place.

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 08:22 PM
I think everyone here agrees with you. Problem is, who the **** in the first round should we draft where we are sitting?

well, as long as we keep winning meaningless games, doing everything we can to be 8-8 (sign kyle orton!), we'll never be in a position...

but we should offer every pick and any player on our roster to get RG3...or we should lose our asses off, which is exactly what we should have done last year

but we won't, we'll sign Kyle Henne and go 9-7 and have this same stupid conversation when all the fans of Chad Bono say " Problem is, who the **** in the first round should we draft where we are sitting?"

rinse wash repeat for 30 years...every year as big a waste as the last

milkman
02-22-2012, 08:22 PM
to admit we have one and do what has been obvious for 30 ****ing years...draft a QB in the first round...


how in the **** can this not be obvious?

How are you realistically going to draft a QB in the first round?

Are you going to draft Tannehill simply because he's the next QB on the list after Luck and RGIII?

I have no problem with that idea.

However, he's a guy that might have to sit for a year, at least.

What do you do for that year?

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:23 PM
Man I'm on board with trading up to get a guy. Don't see it happening but I'm game.

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 08:24 PM
How are you realistically going to draft a QB in the first round?

Are you going to draft Tannehill simply because he's the next QB on the list after Luck and RGIII?

I have no problem with that idea.

However, he's a guy that might have to sit for a year, at least.

What do you do for that year?

who cares what you do for that year?

acquiring the QB is all that matters...then you do whatever the fuck you want...sit him for a year and play Chaz Bono...what's one more year for a franchise that has wasted 30?

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 08:26 PM
are people telling me with a straight face that they think Chad Henne is going to take us somewhere?

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 08:26 PM
are people telling me with a straight face that they think Chad Henne is going to take us somewhere?

I think my signature is a good idea.

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:27 PM
Henne's ceiling is likely Flacco.

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 08:28 PM
Henne's ceiling is likely Flacco.

i just think chiefs fans don't have the first fucking clue about QBs

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:30 PM
So in your opinion there are what 4 or 5 qbs in the NFL that can win a Superbowl?

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:32 PM
So TC, you would give up 3 first, 2 or 3 2nds and a couple thirds to get RGIII?


Thats about likely what it will take.

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 08:34 PM
So in your opinion there are what 4 or 5 qbs in the NFL that can win a Superbowl?

in my opinion henne is a ****ing nobody...and comparing him to a QB who was a dropped pass away from the superbowl is freakin bonkers...

it's also par for the course from a fanbase that thinks Kyle Orton could take us to a superbowl, that Aikman was just a game manager, that Thigpen had stats similiar to Rothlessraper, that Stafford wasn't good enough to draft, that Cassel was the 'heart of the team' and on and ****ing on...

it's all so upside down and inside out when it comes to QBs and the Chiefs that it makes me pray for death every single day

BigMeatballDave
02-22-2012, 08:35 PM
So in your opinion there are what 4 or 5 qbs in the NFL that can win a Superbowl?

Pretty much.

Rodgers
Brees
Rapist
E. Manning
Brady

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:38 PM
I think Henne's absolute top ceiling is about Flacco. Will he get to that. No, probably not.


And how were we supposed to draft Stafford?


I'd trade whatever I had too to get RGIII. But we won't.


I would love what it woudl show to the league making that move. We are here, ready to compete. I have a pretty good idea that we won't make that move.

Thus, to get thru the day, I have to convince myself that Orton or Henne is the answer.

J Diddy
02-22-2012, 08:40 PM
in my opinion henne is a ****ing nobody...and comparing him to a QB who was a dropped pass away from the superbowl is freakin bonkers...

it's also par for the course from a fanbase that thinks Kyle Orton could take us to a superbowl, that Aikman was just a game manager, that Thigpen had stats similiar to Rothlessraper, that Stafford wasn't good enough to draft, that Cassel was the 'heart of the team' and on and ****ing on...

it's all so upside down and inside out when it comes to QBs and the Chiefs that it makes me pray for death every single day


I approve of this message.

Certainly would have a lot less stupid talk about a professional team throwing games.

CHENZ A!
02-22-2012, 08:41 PM
Any FA QB that is on the market will have ?'s. I'd rather take the chance on someone that isn't Cassel be it via draft, or via FA.

jspchief
02-22-2012, 08:41 PM
Meh. Quality QBs don't hit the market for "cheap".

If he was worth a shit, he wouldn't be a FA, or he'd be more than a cheap chance at competition.

Ffs. Flynn has a fraction of the snaps, and teams actually want him.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 08:44 PM
Meh. Quality QBs don't hit the market for "cheap".

If he was worth a shit, he wouldn't be a FA, or he'd be more than a cheap chance at competition.

Ffs. Flynn has a fraction of the snaps, and teams actually want him.

Flynn may cost draft picks depending on what the Packs does now...

tom silverstein @TomSilverstein
#Packers could clear $10.59M by releasing Driver and Clifton. Or less if they agree to take big pay cuts. Would be enuf to franchise Flynn.

O.city
02-22-2012, 08:45 PM
Why woudl you spend money on Flynn when they have holes?

jspchief
02-22-2012, 08:46 PM
Flynn may cost draft picks depending on what the Packs does now...

tom silverstein @TomSilverstein
#Packers could clear $10.59M by releasing Driver and Clifton. Or less if they agree to take big pay cuts. Would be enuf to franchise Flynn.

Not my point. I'm not advocating Flynn. I'm pointing out the difference between a QB that NFL front offices think has a chance, and Henne.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 08:49 PM
Not my point. I'm not advocating Flynn. I'm pointing out the difference between a QB that NFL front offices think has a chance, and Henne.

I know.

I was just adding to your point...that IF he is franchised...you would have to not only pay him...but give up draft picks to acquire him.

I say no thanks.

I will stick with Orton.

(I would trade the farm for RG3 TalkingCan...but its unrealistic)

hometeam
02-22-2012, 08:54 PM
omfpuke

The Bad Guy
02-22-2012, 08:54 PM
Oddly enough, I'm very intrigued by getting Henne here.

milkman
02-22-2012, 09:01 PM
who cares what you do for that year?

acquiring the QB is all that matters...then you do whatever the **** you want...sit him for a year and play Chaz Bono...what's one more year for a franchise that has wasted 30?

When I'm talking about these things, I talk about what I expect realistically from this team.

I'd draft Tannehill and let him develop for a year, and sign Orton or Henne to bridge for a year.

But you know, and I know, that isn't happening.

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 09:01 PM
I approve of this message.

Certainly would have a lot less stupid talk about a professional team throwing games.

yeah, all those games we won this year....crucial

meanwhile the Colts are drafting luck after Manning...

but you guys love meaningless games a lot more than good QBs

jspchief
02-22-2012, 09:03 PM
yeah, all those games we won this year....crucial

meanwhile the Colts are drafting luck after Manning...

but you guys love meaningless games a lot more than good QBsAmazing isn't it. For all the clamoring for the firing of Carl Peterson, it turns out the guy was giving the fans exactly what they wanted.

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 09:03 PM
When I'm talking about these things, I talk about what I expect realistically from this team.

I'd draft Tannehill and let him develop for a year, and sign Orton or Henne to bridge for a year.

But you know, and I know, that isn't happening.

i also know that it doesn't make a nickles difference if Matt Cassel or Chad Henne is our QB next year...just another waste of a season...

i guess what bothers people (not you) is that I don't pretend to be excited about jag off nobody QBs...

Chocolate Hog
02-22-2012, 09:04 PM
Fuck that

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 09:05 PM
Amazing isn't it. For all the clamoring for the firing of Carl Peterson, it turns out the guy was giving the fans exactly what they wanted.

there was never any doubt about that

Count Alex's Losses
02-22-2012, 09:05 PM
Oddly enough, I'm very intrigued by getting Henne here.

He's more accurate than Cassel, but makes shittier decisions.

Just another POS.

Chocolate Hog
02-22-2012, 09:05 PM
Can we just sign Manning?

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 09:06 PM
Year 4 of Pioli's plan to build a superbowl team = Chad Henne and Matt Cassel duking it out



how could you not laugh?

58-4ever
02-22-2012, 09:06 PM
When I'm talking about these things, I talk about what I expect realistically from this team.

I'd draft Tannehill and let him develop for a year, and sign Orton or Henne to bridge for a year.

But you know, and I know, that isn't happening.

I'd rather draft Weeden as the bridge and use our first pick this year on an impact player. Tannehill sucks. IMO.

Count Alex's Losses
02-22-2012, 09:07 PM
Year 4 of Pioli's plan to build a superbowl team = Chad Henne and Matt Cassel duking it out



how could you not laugh?

Taking ALL the shit from the Parcells tree.

The bigger the pile of the shit, the more the stink!

Count Alex's Losses
02-22-2012, 09:08 PM
Signing Henne would be truly retarded.

Just fucking sign Orton.

If not, roll with Stanzi.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 09:09 PM
I'd rather draft Weeden as the bridge and use our first pick this year on an impact player. Tannehill sucks. IMO.

Weeden will go to Washington if they are unable to sign Peyton or trade up for RG3.


FWIW....I dont want Weeden.

O.city
02-22-2012, 09:09 PM
I could roll with that Satanic is it now?

Brainiac
02-22-2012, 09:10 PM
Signing Henne would be truly retarded.

Just ****ing sign Orton.

If not, roll with Stanzi.
It shows how far our expectations have fallen when the best option is to sign Kyle Orton.

Unfortunately, that IS the best option.

58-4ever
02-22-2012, 09:10 PM
Weeden will go to Washington if they are unable to sign Peyton or trade up for RG3.


FWIW....I dont want Weeden.

In the first round?

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 09:11 PM
In the first round?

According to SI.com's Don Banks, Redskins coach Mike Shanahan "loves" Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden after coaching him on the Senior Bowl's South roster.
Banks says he heard a "theory recently" that the Redskins might trade down into the 20s or back into the 20s to snag Weeden at the tail end of the draft's first round. Weeden is considered pro-ready at the age of 28, and could give Rex Grossman or another veteran stopgap a serious run for the starting job in training camp. The Redskins have a defense ready to contend in 2012. Feb 22 - 2:22 PM

Posted 2.22.12 2:22 :)

O.city
02-22-2012, 09:13 PM
Well that's one team in front of us.


Maybe free agency will shake out to let RGIII fall down the board.


Skins trade back, Flynn to Cleveland, Manning to Miami, we win the coin toss. Boom

Chocolate Hog
02-22-2012, 09:13 PM
Signing Henne would be truly retarded.

Just ****ing sign Orton.

If not, roll with Stanzi.

This comment is pretty hilarious.

Count Alex's Losses
02-22-2012, 09:14 PM
I could roll with that Satanic is it now?

http://i39.tinypic.com/149p5ya.jpg

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 09:14 PM
since we're hell bent on signing some veteran nobody fuck wad never-was, we should at least draft Tannehill...at least then we could dream, for once

Count Alex's Losses
02-22-2012, 09:14 PM
This comment is pretty hilarious.

As competition for Cassel, Henne is worthless.

Offers nothing we can't get from Stanzi or Orton.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 09:15 PM
since we're hell bent on signing some veteran nobody **** wad never-was, we should at least draft Tannehill...at least then we could dream, for once

My signature.

Chocolate Hog
02-22-2012, 09:16 PM
As competition for Cassel, Henne is worthless.

Offers nothing we can't get from Stanzi or Orton.

All of the QB's mentioned above are worthless. Manning or bust.

O.city
02-22-2012, 09:19 PM
The Chiefs and their fans have suffered long enough. RGIII is gonna some how get to us.


Or Luck tells the colts to fuck off after they keep Manning, we trade up and get him.

the Talking Can
02-22-2012, 09:19 PM
My signature.

ah, i have sigs blocked

props to you

58-4ever
02-22-2012, 09:20 PM
All of the QB's mentioned above are worthless. Manning or bust.

this :thumb:

milkman
02-22-2012, 09:21 PM
According to SI.com's Don Banks, Redskins coach Mike Shanahan "loves" Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden after coaching him on the Senior Bowl's South roster.
Banks says he heard a "theory recently" that the Redskins might trade down into the 20s or back into the 20s to snag Weeden at the tail end of the draft's first round. Weeden is considered pro-ready at the age of 28, and could give Rex Grossman or another veteran stopgap a serious run for the starting job in training camp. The Redskins have a defense ready to contend in 2012. Feb 22 - 2:22 PM

Posted 2.22.12 2:22 :)

Chris Weinke version 2.0.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 09:22 PM
Chris Weinke version 2.0.

Yes.

Do not want.

tk13
02-22-2012, 09:33 PM
I think someone is going to take a chance on Weeden. It's an interesting debate. Not sure how he'll adjust to the pro game... and he's so old. But on the flipside he is talented. I think if age was not an issue he'd be the 3rd QB off the board. I like watching him play. He can fling it around the yard.

ILChief
02-22-2012, 09:34 PM
You heard a report on hearsay based on "one prominent player."

How many guesses do you need to guess who that might have been. They only have 2.

And one of them had the best season of his career

aturnis
02-22-2012, 09:37 PM
are people telling me with a straight face that they think Chad Henne is going to take us somewhere?

No, they're saying he'll take us nowhere, but better.

http://www.apostropher.com/blog/img/underpants-gnomes-business-model.png

mnchiefsguy
02-22-2012, 09:39 PM
No thanks....Stanzi would probably provide better competition to Cassel at this point.

milkman
02-22-2012, 09:40 PM
I think someone is going to take a chance on Weeden. It's an interesting debate. Not sure how he'll adjust to the pro game... and he's so old. But on the flipside he is talented. I think if age was not an issue he'd be the 3rd QB off the board. I like watching him play. He can fling it around the yard.

Weedon is "NFL ready", except that, like any QB coming out, he will take time to adjust to the complex schemes he runs on offense, and the complex schemes he has to read on defense.

He'll be 31 years old before he fully gets it.

Just on the edge of the back end of his prime.

Okie_Apparition
02-22-2012, 10:00 PM
Don't be a conformist Eric
Shove a Dust Buster up their asses & make 'em likeit

prhom
02-22-2012, 10:17 PM
Well that's one team in front of us.


Maybe free agency will shake out to let RGIII fall down the board.


Skins trade back, Flynn to Cleveland, Manning to Miami, we win the coin toss. Boom

I really can't imagine that RGIII would fall to us, but if he does and we don't take him I'll lose it. Man I hope we trade up for him.

DeezNutz
02-22-2012, 10:35 PM
Henne "wouldn't be a bad fit" in KC because we're used to accommodating shitty QBs.

Fire up those grills!

Direckshun
02-22-2012, 10:46 PM
I figured this would be a logical signing.

Henne isn't going to supplant Cassel. But he could keep Cassel from becoming complacent, and provide us a decent backup in the mean time.

He knows the system, etc.

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I was the first in the forum to call this signing.

milkman
02-22-2012, 10:49 PM
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I was the first in the forum to call this signing.

Well isn't that exciting Miss Cleo?

Direckshun
02-22-2012, 10:50 PM
Well isn't that exciting Miss Cleo?

How are the BMs today?

Hard? Misshapen? I'd hate for that to be the case.

DeezNutz
02-22-2012, 10:53 PM
How are the BMs today?

Hard? Misshapen? I'd hate for that to be the case.

How could you possibly have gone out on that type of limb? Whew...unbelievable. Imagine having the nerve to predict that Scott Pioedipus would find an answer close to home?

milkman
02-22-2012, 10:53 PM
How are the BMs today?

Hard? Misshapen? I'd hate for that to be the case.

Why do you ask?

Are you hungry?

Direckshun
02-22-2012, 10:55 PM
Why do you ask?

Are you hungry?

I just know there's been some concern about their consistency. I just want what's best for you.

I care about you, milkman.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-22-2012, 10:55 PM
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I was the first in the forum to call this signing.

If you think that is impressive...


...it's not.

Direckshun
02-22-2012, 10:57 PM
How could you possibly have gone out on that type of limb? Whew...unbelievable. Imagine having the nerve to predict that Scott Pioedipus would find an answer close to home?

It's a good fit, is it not?

You get a guy who was able to produce a halfway dynamic offense with Daboll once Daboll got a read on the guy. Henne had games last year that neither Cassel or Orton duplicated.

You get a young guy for virtually nothing, a lottery ticket who has a remote chance of turning into something, and some pressure applied to Cassel on the depth chart.

It's a zero risk move.

DeezNutz
02-22-2012, 11:00 PM
It's a good fit, is it not?

You get a guy who was able to produce a halfway dynamic offense with Daboll once Daboll got a read on the guy. Henne had games last year that neither Cassel or Orton duplicated.

You get a young guy for virtually nothing, a lottery ticket who has a remote chance of turning into something, and some pressure applied to Cassel on the depth chart.

It's a zero risk move.

I agree that it's zero risk, but the problem is that it's also damn near zero upside. If backup A goes down, we replace him with backup B. Uninterrupted suck.

That's how we roll.

Epic Fail 007
02-22-2012, 11:03 PM
Is Orton really wanting THAT much that we have to go after Henne instead?

nothings confirmed

Direckshun
02-22-2012, 11:04 PM
I agree that it's zero risk, but the problem is that it's also damn near zero upside. If backup A goes down, we replace him with backup B. Uninterrupted suck.

That's how we roll.

Cassel goes down in 2011. We get four weeks of Tyler Palko.

Yeah.

That's your upside to signing Henne. He is a legit backup talent.

beach tribe
02-22-2012, 11:06 PM
I've seen him in person a few times. Just WILDLY inconsistent. He's got all the tools though. I still think he can be developed into a solid starter.

beach tribe
02-22-2012, 11:08 PM
I agree that it's zero risk, but the problem is that it's also damn near zero upside. If backup A goes down, we replace him with backup B. Uninterrupted suck.

That's how we roll.

I know. We should trade for Tom Brady. Ammirite?

Direckshun
02-22-2012, 11:09 PM
I've seen him in person a few times. Just WILDLY inconsistent. He's got all the tools though. I still think he can be developed into a solid starter.

Right. There's zero risk to this signing, he'll transition to Daboll's system in KC much faster than Cassel will, and there's always that remote chance that we could tap into that reservoir of talent in there while we have him on a two-year rental.

Frankie
02-22-2012, 11:18 PM
I know. We should trade for Tom Brady. Ammirite?

I'm afraid that day will come. About 5 years from now, as the fans are still demanding drafting our QBOTF. :(

pr_capone
02-22-2012, 11:32 PM
my head would asplode if Henne was signed. I want no part of him.

RustShack
02-22-2012, 11:49 PM
Maybe, JUST MAYBE! Henne can win us one more game before getting hurt that is the difference in the season. Henne could get a few wins that Cassel wouldn't for Cassel to be able to lead us to the playoffs after Henne's injury. And if we are super duper lucky, Henne returns from injury to lead us to ONE playoff win before getting hurt.

And by lead, I mean manage slightly better than Cassel our good running game and defense.

PunkinDrublic
02-22-2012, 11:56 PM
Uh no.

beach tribe
02-23-2012, 12:03 AM
Right. There's zero risk to this signing, he'll transition to Daboll's system in KC much faster than Cassel will, and there's always that remote chance that we could tap into that reservoir of talent in there while we have him on a two-year rental.

For some reason people feel like signing a QB means we can't draft one. We need to find a QB now because i truly believe 2013 is the year we draft one.

lostcause
02-23-2012, 03:18 AM
Henne might not be better than Orton, but he's a fuck lot cheaper. I like the idea - sign the kid. He's a helluva lot better than palko or thigpen or grbac.

xztop12
02-23-2012, 03:20 AM
I dont really care at this point.

If the powers of the KCC think that the wind of arrowhead require us to be a ball control offense and have that style of QB we almost have to draft Richardson.

pr_capone
02-23-2012, 03:22 AM
Henne might not be better than Orton, but he's a **** lot cheaper. I like the idea - sign the kid. He's a helluva lot better than palko or thigpen or grbac.

Yes... because the Chiefs activated the carry over clause so that they could cheap out on the single most important position on the field.

xztop12
02-23-2012, 03:23 AM
I dont really care at this point.

If the powers of the KCC think that the wind of arrowhead require us to be a ball control offense and have that style of QB we almost have to draft Richardson.

having said that, i think RG3 would allow us tp up the running attack as much as Trent given we get a RB later on

htismaqe
02-23-2012, 07:32 AM
I'll take Henne. He's not Cassel.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-23-2012, 07:44 AM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/30-FAs-in-30-Days-Chad-Henne/168b8c76-85be-47dc-8efd-cb521454ded8

30 FAs in 30 Days: Chad Henne

NAME: Chad Henne
POSITION: Quarterback

HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 6-3, 230

COLLEGE: Michigan

GP/GS: 36/31

AGE/EXPEREINCE: 26/4 seasons

BACKGROUND: A second round pick of Miami in 2008, Chad Henne spent his rookie season as the top reserve to starter Chad Pennington. He’d become the Dolphins starting quarterback the next year when Pennington dislocated his shoulder and tore his rotator cuff in Week 3 absorbing a hit from Chargers linebacker Kevin Burnett.

Pennington’s season-ending injury signaled the start of the Chad Henne era in Miami.

Henne would go on to start 31 games for the Dolphins from 2009-11, though he never seemed to have a firm grip on the job. Miami posted a 13-18 record in Henne’s 31 starts.

After Henne struggled through the first eight games of 2010, Miami’s starting job went back to Pennington. But Pennington re-injured his shoulder almost immediately and the job went back to Henne.

That off-season the Dolphins attempted to acquire Kyle Ortonfrom the Broncos, but eventually signed unrestricted free agent Matt Moore to compete with Henne for the starting job.

Henne would win retain his starting role under new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, but suffered a season-ending injury to his non-throwing shoulder after just four starts.

Overall, Henne has completed 646 of 1,065 (60.7%) career pass attempts for 7,114 yards with 31 TDs and 37 INTs. He owns a career passer rating of 75.7.

AVAILABILITY: The Dolphins appear ready to move on from Henne. According to a South Florida Sun Sentinel report, Miami will not attempt to re-sign the future unrestricted free agent.

“Chad has done what we’ve asked him to do,” Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland told the paper. “I like Chad personally very well. He’s very smart. Very intelligent. Very tough. A football guy. He loves being around the game and is a very good teammate.

“But this football team didn’t win enough games when he was quarterback here. But that doesn’t mean he did everything wrong, or right. If he goes somewhere else, Chad’s a good football player. He can play in this league.”

Miami’s decision to part ways from Henne was expected thanks to Moore’s play down the stretch and the hiring of new head coach Joe Philbin.

COACHING CONNECTIONS: Daboll is an obvious connection to Henne, having served as the Dolphins offensive coordinator last season and selecting Henne as his opening day starter. But there are other interesting connections between Henne and the Chiefs as well.

Henne was originally drafted by the Dolphins when Scott Pioli’s father-in-law, Bill Parcells, was running Miami’s personnel department. Though Pioli and Parcells probably don’t see eye-to-eye on every personnel evaluation, the two likely share similar scouting principles.

Parcells obviously liked Henne’s skill set when he drafted the Michigan quarterback 57th overall four years ago. Henne was the fourth quarterback off the board in 2008 behind Matt Ryan (3rd overall), Joe Flacco (18th overall) and Brian Brohm (56th overall).

Aside from their family connections, Pioli worked under Parcells as the Jets Director of Pro Personnel from 1997-99. Parcells was serving as the Jets Head Coach/General Manager at the time.

WHY HE FITS: The Chiefs have gone on record with their desire to create competition at the quarterback positions. Henne fits the bill as a veteran with previous starting experience, but Matt Casselhas proven to be a much more efficient quarterback throughout his NFL career.

With that said, the market for free agent quarterbacks isn’t particularly deep and an understanding of Daboll’s system could help Henne’s case in landing a reserve role with the Chiefs - especially if the team is unable to retain Orton.

Some positives for Henne are that he’s only 26 years old, has previous starting experience and still has room to develop. Those traits could become more attractive as the free agent market begins to move.

Despite his up-and-down starting tenure in Miami, Henne looks the part of an NFL quarterback. Many believe he has the tools to be a successful drop-back passer, possessing good arm strength and impressive football acumen.

A change in scenery might be a benefit.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-23-2012, 07:48 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/40042/mailbag-chad-henne-in-kansas-city

Danny from Kansas City wants to know if I think the Chiefs could sign Miami quarterback Chad Henne in free agency.

Bill Williamson: I think he has to be considered one of the possibilities. The Chiefs have said Matt Cassel will get some competition. Among the possibilities mentioned have been re-signing Kyle Orton or signing former Oakland starter Jason Campbell. Henne is younger than those players, but he is less accomplished. Perhaps the Chiefs could like Henne as a backup to Cassel. He played for new Kansas City offensive coordinator Brian Daboll in Miami last year. However the Dolphins’ offense improved once Matt Moore took over for the injured Henne.

Dayze
02-23-2012, 08:37 AM
I love the smell of mediocrity in the morning. Smells like......Arrowhead.

FringeNC
02-23-2012, 08:40 AM
Pioli won't bring him in. Cassel would have no chance of beating him out, especially given how Henne already knows Daboll's offense.

BoneKrusher
02-23-2012, 08:42 AM
why not have two matt cassels

two Cassels still dont even equal Scott Mitchell.

durtyrute
02-23-2012, 08:44 AM
Orton over Henne, Henne over Campbell.....Stanzi OVER THEM ALL.

Let's have them all battle it out (no Campbells please) Winner starts

TRR
02-23-2012, 08:51 AM
I watched Henne play quite a bit at Michigan and was always impressed with his physical skill set. He is a big guy with a fantastic arm and good accuracy. He seemed to be a competitor as well that could grit out a win.

That being said you never know what's in their head...Can they survive the ups and downs or are just satisfied with the money.
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KC_Lee
02-23-2012, 08:58 AM
I'll take Henne. He's not Cassel.

Unfortunately that has been what we as Chiefs’ fans have said for too many years; “Well at least QB A is not QB B.”.

suds79
02-23-2012, 09:06 AM
I'll take Henne. He's not Cassel.

Yeah I'll take Henne as a gamble under the assumption we cannot land Manning.

Orton - Probably a better player but we know who he is.
Campbell - Think we all know who he is and I think Henne could simply be better.
Stanzi - Unknown. But he's not going anywhere. He's free to compete for the job.

At least Henne has shown promise in the past. Strong arm. Only 26. Threw for 3,301 yards with 61.4% in 2010.

His big achilles heel seems to be TD/Int ratio. I'm willing to see if he can clean that up on a better team.

htismaqe
02-23-2012, 09:16 AM
Pioli won't bring him in. Cassel would have no chance of beating him out, especially given how Henne already knows Daboll's offense.

Probably true.

htismaqe
02-23-2012, 09:16 AM
Yeah I'll take Henne as a gamble under the assumption we cannot land Manning.

Orton - Probably a better player but we know who he is.
Campbell - Think we all know who he is and I think Henne could simply be better.
Stanzi - Unknown. But he's not going anywhere. He's free to compete for the job.

At least Henne has shown promise in the past. Strong arm. Only 26. Threw for 3,301 yards with 61.4% in 2010.

His big achilles heel seems to be TD/Int ratio. I'm willing to see if he can clean that up on a better team.

I agree with pretty much all of this.

qabbaan
02-23-2012, 09:33 AM
Normally I would hate this idea unless he was a backup. But given that our quarterback is Matt Cassel...

Henne is almost a chance to repeat the Cassel experiment, only without giving up a second round pick this time. He is young and seems to have some of the qualities, it's just a question of cleaning up accuracy and decision making.

At least Henne won a starting job in college.

Dayze
02-23-2012, 09:41 AM
Yeah I'll take Henne as a gamble under the assumption we cannot land Manning.

Orton - Probably a better player but we know who he is.
Campbell - Think we all know who he is and I think Henne could simply be better.
Stanzi - Unknown. But he's not going anywhere. He's free to compete for the job.

At least Henne has shown promise in the past. Strong arm. Only 26. Threw for 3,301 yards with 61.4% in 2010.

His big achilles heel seems to be TD/Int ratio. I'm willing to see if he can clean that up on a better team.

I'm pretty much on board with this. Even "IF" we drafted a QB, he wouldn't see the field his first season ( unless we somehow get Luck or RGIII....neither of which I see happening) anyway.

Let Cassel/Stanzi/Henne fight for the job, and pray Cassel loses. I seriously don't have a single positive thing to say about Cassel's game.

Inmem58
02-23-2012, 10:14 AM
Ugh, is this all we can do?


Henne really? He couldn't take the Giants to the SB.

King_Chief_Fan
02-23-2012, 10:16 AM
nothing but smoke and mirrors.......if this is the best the Chiefs can do to provide Cassel competition, then Cassel is the QB

Inmem58
02-23-2012, 10:19 AM
nothing but smoke and mirrors.......if this is the best the Chiefs can do to provide Cassel competition, then Cassel is the QB

Its not even a competition.


It's a way for Pioli to ride with Cassel again.

Dave Lane
02-23-2012, 10:20 AM
Also, players like Larry Fitzgerald LOVED Todd Haley. Worked out well for us didn't it?

Well next year in the playoffs you can wave to him.

tooge
02-23-2012, 10:21 AM
the only way I'd be more than "meh" about Henne coming to KC would be as comptetition for Cassel for the #2 spot.

Dayze
02-23-2012, 10:23 AM
Its not even a competition.


It's a way for Pioli to ride with Cassel again.

yep. 100% agree there.

suds79
02-23-2012, 10:24 AM
nothing but smoke and mirrors.......if this is the best the Chiefs can do to provide Cassel competition, then Cassel is the QB

I think we need to prepare ourselves (not like it but prepare) for the fact that Matt is the front runner no matter what.... Unless we get Peyton Manning.

Anybody else and I see it as a "competition" with Matt being the winner almost by default because he's Scott's golden boy.

Having said that, I think Chad could easily outplay Matt in preseason. Simply because his tools are far superior and I have that little faith in Matt's game.

Maybe it could put pressure on Romeo. It's either that or hoping for injury which is sad.

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 10:34 AM
Lol. It was only a matter of time before this shit reared it's ugly head.

L.A. Chieffan
02-23-2012, 10:37 AM
not a bad backup to cassel

ILChief
02-23-2012, 10:38 AM
So are options are:

Peyton
Orton
Henne
Campbell
Clausen
Quinn
Garrard

Am I forgetting any?

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 10:40 AM
Right. There's zero risk to this signing, he'll transition to Daboll's system in KC much faster than Cassel will, and there's always that remote chance that we could tap into that reservoir of talent in there while we have him on a two-year rental.

Wrong. There is a risk. And that risk is that we roll into camp with Cassel, Henne, and Stanzi.

That means no drafted QB, and the F/A QB that we signed is a Cassel Clone.

That means that there was no upgrade made to the position at all.

This is exactly what CP was worried about when Pioli said there'd be competition. It's just a competition designed for Matt Cassel to win.

No thanks.

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 10:41 AM
So are options are:

Peyton
Orton
Henne
Campbell
Clausen
Quinn
Garrard

Am I forgetting any?

Rookies.

If not Manning or Orton, i'd want a Rookie. Orton is king "meh", but the rest of those are peasant "mehs".

suds79
02-23-2012, 10:42 AM
That means no drafted QB, and the F/A QB that we signed is a Cassel Clone.

I see what you're saying. But realistically, what QB is out there that you want to draft? The real studs this year are going 1 & 2.

Looks like next years QB class will be much better.

BoneKrusher
02-23-2012, 10:43 AM
So are options are:

Peyton
Orton
Henne
Campbell
Clausen
Quinn
Garrard

Am I forgetting any?

if we dont get Manning nor Orton i'd like to see what Stanzi can do.

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 10:44 AM
I see what you're saying. But realistically, what QB is out there that you want to draft? The real studs this year are going 1 & 2.

Looks like next years QB class will be much better.

Yeah, the studs will be gone. But would you rather take a chance on a rookie or just roll with a Qb that we already know will take us nowhere?

Henne had the Dolphins so desperate that they were calling for Orton.

Sound familiar?

No thanks.

suds79
02-23-2012, 10:45 AM
if we dont get Manning nor Orton i'd like to see what Stanzi can do.

We're going to see that no matter what. If we sign a FA QB or draft another QB, Stanzi will get his chance to compete. So the Stanzi factor IMO is kinda a moot point.

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 10:46 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/40042/mailbag-chad-henne-in-kansas-city

Danny from Kansas City wants to know if I think the Chiefs could sign Miami quarterback Chad Henne in free agency.

Bill Williamson: I think he has to be considered one of the possibilities. The Chiefs have said Matt Cassel will get some competition. Among the possibilities mentioned have been re-signing Kyle Orton or signing former Oakland starter Jason Campbell. Henne is younger than those players, but he is less accomplished. Perhaps the Chiefs could like Henne as a backup to Cassel. He played for new Kansas City offensive coordinator Brian Daboll in Miami last year. However the Dolphins’ offense improved once Matt Moore took over for the injured Henne.


NO NO NO.

Fuck off with this bullshit. Campbell? Henne?

I just puked up in my mouth a little bit.

Okie_Apparition
02-23-2012, 10:46 AM
Flynn is as likely an option as Manning
don't see them taking that road twice though

suds79
02-23-2012, 10:47 AM
Yeah, the studs will be gone. But would you rather take a chance on a rookie or just roll with a Qb that we already know will take us nowhere?

Henne had the Dolphins so desperate that they were calling for Orton.

Sound familiar?

No thanks.

I can get behind that. I don't mind them drafting a QB as long as they don't wait until the 5th or later to do it. I can't have Matt Cassel vs two others who really don't provide any realistic competition.

That's why I wouldn't kill them if they signed Henne (again assuming they can't get Manning). I think he has a greater chance to unseat Matt vs a low drafted rookie. ANd if they did get Henne, they should still look QB next year most likely.

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 10:47 AM
Flynn is as likely an option as Manning
don't see them taking that road twice though

Flynn is a completely different situation than Manning.

Manning is CLEARLY a stop gap. Flynn is someone a franchise will dedicate itself to, ala Cassel.

talastan
02-23-2012, 10:48 AM
nothing but smoke and mirrors.......if this is the best the Chiefs can do to provide Cassel competition, then Cassel is the QB

Its not even a competition.


It's a way for Pioli to ride with Cassel again.

http://multivocality.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/miraclemax.jpg?w=450

"Have fun Stalling w/ Cassel." /CP version :shake:

BoneKrusher
02-23-2012, 10:49 AM
We're going to see that no matter what. If we sign a FA QB or draft another QB, Stanzi will get his chance to compete. So the Stanzi factor IMO is kinda a moot point.

instead of having crap like Cassel take snaps i'f rather Stanzi took more and learned the offense.

frankotank
02-23-2012, 10:50 AM
I remember watching Henne alot at Michigan. Was always pretty impressed.


He's had some good games at qb in the NFL, seems to have had some injury problems though.

henne holds several records at Michigan. his senior year they were going into the last game touted "the game of the century". #1 OH St vs #2 MI. MI lost. there was much talk of a rematch in the championship game....but as we all know the championship game can never be an interconference rematch...right!? :D

I got to see him play at the Big House against Penn St that year. he's actually not a bad QB. if this happens at least he won't be an embarrasment to Blue fans like Elvis was.

FringeNC
02-23-2012, 10:52 AM
How can anyone be against bringing Henne in? He's obviously better than Cassel, and would improve the QB position on the team. Additionally, it would indicate that Pioli is not wed to Matt Cassel. Whether he is the long-term answer is hardly the only consideration here.

Having said all that, I think by competition for Cassel, Pioli means a stiff like Brodie Croyle or Derek Anderson, not someone who is obviously better like Chad Henne. For reasons unknown, Pioli seems enthusiastic about betting his career here on Matt Cassel.

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 10:55 AM
How can anyone be against bringing Henne in? He's obviously better than Cassel, and would improve the QB position on the team. Additionally, it would indicate that Pioli is not wed to Matt Cassel. Whether he is the long-term answer is hardly the only consideration here.

Having said all that, I think by competition for Cassel, Pioli means a stiff like Brodie Croyle or Derek Anderson, not someone who is obviously better like Chad Henne. For reasons unknown, Pioli seems enthusiastic about betting his career here on Matt Cassel.

Obviously better than Cassel? C'mon man.

That's a "grass is always greener" comment.

And in no way is that any indication that Pioli is ready to part ways with Cassel. If Pioli signs Manning or Orton, or drafts a rookie high, then that's an indication that he's willing to move on.

Bringing in another scrub QB that was on the verge of being replaced by Orton is NOT an upgrade.

The Dolphins were terrible under Henne. Moore outplayed Henne.

That's not good.

HemiEd
02-23-2012, 10:56 AM
If he means Casshole doesn't start sign him up!

Yeah, small victories.

L.A. Chieffan
02-23-2012, 10:56 AM
cassel deserves a shot with a sane coach and healthy weapons. not hard to understand

HemiEd
02-23-2012, 10:59 AM
So in your opinion there are what 4 or 5 qbs in the NFL that can win a Superbowl?

That is kind of what the recent evidence has shown, if you look at it.

Carlota69
02-23-2012, 10:59 AM
Obviously better than Cassel? C'mon man.

That's a "grass is always greener" comment.

And in no way is that any indication that Pioli is ready to part ways with Cassel. If Pioli signs Manning or Orton, or drafts a rookie high, then that's an indication that he's willing to move on.

Bringing in another scrub QB that was on the verge of being replaced by Orton is NOT an upgrade.

The Dolphins were terrible under Henne. Moore outplayed Henne.

That's not good.

Yep, and if they bring Henne in, Arrowhead is really going to be empty.

The smart $ is on Manning IF he can throw. That alone will sell tickets and Hunt makes some $$$$. IF he cant throw, then get Orton for fucks sakes!!! Henne sucks ballzzzzz!

suds79
02-23-2012, 10:59 AM
cassel deserves a shot with a sane coach and healthy weapons. not hard to understand

Until we win the SB, it will be easy to always point out excuses.

It's simply the eyeball test. He doesn't throw a good, accurate ball.

L.A. Chieffan
02-23-2012, 10:59 AM
manning is toast

L.A. Chieffan
02-23-2012, 11:00 AM
Until we win the SB, it will be easy to always point out excuses.

It's simply the eyeball test. He doesn't throw a good, accurate ball.

drew brees fails the eyeball test

Okie_Apparition
02-23-2012, 11:00 AM
Gabbert can't arrive in LA fast enough

suds79
02-23-2012, 11:00 AM
drew brees fails the eyeball test

Not in how he throws the ball.

Monty
02-23-2012, 11:00 AM
cassel deserves a shot with a sane coach and healthy weapons. not hard to understand

TBH, it actually is hard to understand.

frankotank
02-23-2012, 11:01 AM
Go to youtube and search "chad henne".

Skim through the titles of the first 20 or so videos.

Mr. Chad Henne doesn't seem to be a popular figure...

some of these are songs by The Dead Schembechlers...obviously a pro OH St band. they actually changed their name for a while when Bo died on the eve of the #1 vs #2 game (Bo thought it was cool they named their band after him) if i was an OH St fan when Henne played for MI I'd hate him too!

FringeNC
02-23-2012, 11:01 AM
Obviously better than Cassel? C'mon man.

That's a "grass is always greener" comment.

And in no way is that any indication that Pioli is ready to part ways with Cassel. If Pioli signs Manning or Orton, or drafts a rookie high, then that's an indication that he's willing to move on.

Bringing in another scrub QB that was on the verge of being replaced by Orton is NOT an upgrade.

The Dolphins were terrible under Henne. Moore outplayed Henne.

That's not good.

Didn't they try to trade for Orton after Henne went down?

L.A. Chieffan
02-23-2012, 11:02 AM
Not in how he throws the ball.

brees and cassel have the same arm. brees may be a little more accurate but a lot of it has to do with shitty playcalling

Carlota69
02-23-2012, 11:02 AM
manning is toast

Cassell was born toast.

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 11:02 AM
Didn't they try to trade for Orton after Henne went down?

They tried to trade for him before the season started.

L.A. Chieffan
02-23-2012, 11:04 AM
Cassell was born toast.

lol cassel didn't have neck surgery performed by this guy

http://turtletalk.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/dr-nick.gif

BoneKrusher
02-23-2012, 11:04 AM
manning is the toast of the town

FYP

suds79
02-23-2012, 11:05 AM
brees and cassel have the same arm. brees may be a little more accurate but a lot of it has to do with shitty playcalling

A little more accurate? He completed 71.2% of his passes this year. This comparison between the two is something you really need to step away from.

Carlota69
02-23-2012, 11:06 AM
lol cassel didn't have neck surgery performed by this guy

http://turtletalk.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/dr-nick.gif

Thats becasue he has no neck, or spine or backbone to operate on.

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 11:06 AM
A little more accurate? He completed 71.2% of his passes this year. This comparison between the two is something you really need to step away from.

You're being trolled.

L.A. Chieffan
02-23-2012, 11:06 AM
we should be happy that manning doesnt want to come here. you wouldnt want to waste 50 million or whatever on a guy who turns his head like a transformer

BossChief
02-23-2012, 11:08 AM
if we dont get Manning nor Orton i'd like to see what Stanzi can do.

Pretty much.

The only other guy that is even semi interesting is Campbell.

He didnt play too badly in Oakland and he did so with lesser weapons than he would have here in KC.

Also, he would have a legit chance to beat Cassel.

All in all, I think Stanzi is better than most options out there and deserves a chance to prove himself.

HemiEd
02-23-2012, 11:08 AM
You're being trolled.

They just keep feeding them, so they thrive.

Fish
02-23-2012, 11:09 AM
cassel deserves a shot with a sane coach and healthy weapons. not hard to understand

Cassel doesn't deserve shit...

One of Pioli's first justifications for signing Cassel was that he was experienced and could "Hit the ground running" and wouldn't require starting from scratch. Since then we've heard 3 years of excuses for why that didn't actually happen. We spent several high draft picks on "Weapons" for Cassel. It's never been enough, and never will be enough. You can't expect to ever provide a perfect environment for a QB who has so many external requirements. It's just not possible. And it shouldn't be necessary.

The more moves we make to help this retard QB, the farther we get from an actual franchise QB. We're spending year after year trying to fine tune the team to work with a QB with who can't seem to do anything himself, when we could just as easily take a giant leap forward and bring in a QB who doesn't need 10 other above average guys to help him along just to look adequate.

L.A. Chieffan
02-23-2012, 11:10 AM
A little more accurate? He completed 71.2% of his passes this year. This comparison between the two is something you really need to step away from.

he's a little more accurate but he also has jimmy graham and carmichael.

Carlota69
02-23-2012, 11:10 AM
we should be happy that manning doesnt want to come here. you wouldnt want to waste 50 million or whatever on a guy who turns his head like a transformer

No, we would rather spend 63 million on a dude who has the genitalia of a Ken doll and can throw about as far as one too.:thumb:

L.A. Chieffan
02-23-2012, 11:12 AM
Cassel doesn't deserve shit...

One of Pioli's first justifications for signing Cassel was that he was experienced and could "Hit the ground running" and wouldn't require starting from scratch. Since then we've heard 3 years of excuses for why that didn't actually happen. We spent several high draft picks on "Weapons" for Cassel. It's never been enough, and never will be enough. You can't expect to ever provide a perfect environment for a QB who has so many external requirements. It's just not possible. And it shouldn't be necessary.

The more moves we make to help this retard QB, the farther we get from an actual franchise QB. We're spending year after year trying to fine tune the team to work with a QB with who can't seem to do anything himself, when we could just as easily take a giant leap forward and bring in a QB who doesn't need 10 other above average guys to help him along just to look adequate.

what are you going to do? is henne or campbell better? no. can we get a qbotf in this years draft? no. so full steam ahead!

suds79
02-23-2012, 11:12 AM
You're being trolled.

I should have known better.

frankotank
02-23-2012, 11:16 AM
Its not even a competition.


It's a way for Pioli to ride with Cassel again.

REALLY! You're telling me you don't think Henne has a chance to beat Casshole for the QB job!? WTF!

bevischief
02-23-2012, 11:16 AM
instead of having crap like Cassel take snaps i'f rather Stanzi took more and learned the offense.

They will have a new offense installed this year.

Okie_Apparition
02-23-2012, 11:19 AM
Cassel was paid enough money to earn three years at starter
It's over & probably would have ended mid-season if he hadn't got hurt

bevischief
02-23-2012, 11:21 AM
we should be happy that manning doesnt want to come here. you wouldnt want to waste 50 million or whatever on a guy who turns his head like a transformer

:)

Okie_Apparition
02-23-2012, 11:53 AM
Has a QB of Cassel's caliber ever gotten a 4th season

suds79
02-23-2012, 12:02 PM
Has a QB of Cassel's caliber ever gotten a 4th season

Tough question.

My best guess is Jason Campbell got 4 in Washington. But then again, Jason has better tools than Matt. Better arm.

So it's hard to say.

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 12:09 PM
Tough question.

My best guess is Jason Campbell got 4 in Washington. But then again, Jason has better tools than Matt. Better arm.

So it's hard to say.

Alex Smith

RustShack
02-23-2012, 12:11 PM
They will have a new offense installed this year.

Oh Daboll is going to reinstall the Earnhardt-Perkins offense that he, Muin, Haley, and Weis all run? Must be tough

Chiefnj2
02-23-2012, 12:17 PM
Oh Daboll is going to reinstall the Earnhardt-Perkins offense that he, Muin, Haley, and Weis all run? Must be tough

Weis-Erhardt-Perkins Offense and The West Coast Offense

Weis ran what is known as the Erhardt-Perkins Offense in New England. This offense often uses the pass to set up the run via play action passing.

Despite its reputation, this system is not always a run-first offense.

Weis often tweaked the Erhardt and ran the offense, spread wide open, with five potential receivers and an empty backfield. He took advantage of personnel groupings and defensive sets to bring the running back back into formation, where he'd call for a quick hitting blast inside tackle.

A common personnel grouping in the Ernhardt is two tight ends, two receivers and a running back.

The groupings line up with the running back in formation, or split out depending on the situation and the defense.

The running game would take advantage of the nickel and dime packages and pick up four-to-six yard bursts inside the tackles. When the safeties crept into the box, Brady would go over the top.

It was a very nice, elegant offense to watch. Brady would work Welker and Branch,in different years, on different teams, underneath.

By tweaking the offense and using concepts from Air Coryell and other offenses common to the period, Weis created his version that he implemented at Notre Dame.



We saw no resemblance to this in Cleveland last year. Daboll called plays reminiscent of a neighborhood pee-wee game.

Run after run up the middle or inside the tackles, followed by a short slant or intermediate post.

Even when the team went on a four game winning streak it was more of a traditional I formation set with a lead fullback, Lawrence Vickers, opening holes for Jerome Harrison to run through.

The most imaginative part of our offense was the Wildcat, and by midseason everybody knew Cribbs was going to keep it, and keyed on him. Daboll looked hopelessly overmatched and the Browns scored 132 less points then their opponents in 2009.

Pasta Giant Meatball
02-23-2012, 01:38 PM
Hell.....no

Mr. Laz
02-23-2012, 01:52 PM
**** you Pioli.
**** You Scott. Right in the ass.
BURN IT
BURN ITBURN IT
http://i39.tinypic.com/345ou54.jpg
Hilarious

this has nothing to do with Pioli, it's just some website scrub throwing shit against the wall and seeing if something sticks.

yet stupid ****s around here actually blame Pioli for random shit that prognosticators throw out there.

ROFL

just wait until people cuss Pioli out for mock drafts they don't like as if those are the picks he made. :doh!:

Detoxing
02-23-2012, 01:55 PM
Hilarious

this has nothing to do with Pioli, it's just some website scrub throwing shit against the wall and seeing if something sticks.

yet stupid ****s around here actually blame Pioli for random shit that prognosticators throw out there.

ROFL

just wait until people cuss Pioli out for mock drafts they don't like as if those are the picks he made. :doh!:

Such is the life of a Balla Ass GM

Mr. Laz
02-23-2012, 02:11 PM
Such is the life of a Balla Ass GM
which also has nothing to do with Pioli

Pioli has never claimed to be a 'Balla' or anything else.

as far as i can tell he is just trying to do his job ... all this other shit is just people making crap up so they can bitch.

:shrug:

HemiEd
02-23-2012, 02:18 PM
Hilarious

this has nothing to do with Pioli, it's just some website scrub throwing shit against the wall and seeing if something sticks.

yet stupid ****s around here actually blame Pioli for random shit that prognosticators throw out there.

ROFL

just wait until people cuss Pioli out for mock drafts they don't like as if those are the picks he made. :doh!:

Cheap entertainment

talastan
02-23-2012, 02:21 PM
Hilarious

this has nothing to do with Pioli, it's just some website scrub throwing shit against the wall and seeing if something sticks.

yet stupid ****s around here actually blame Pioli for random shit that prognosticators throw out there.

ROFL

just wait until people cuss Pioli out for mock drafts they don't like as if those are the picks he made. :doh!:

You are on Chiefsplanet. :shrug:

Mr. Laz
02-23-2012, 02:23 PM
Cheap entertainment

You are on Chiefsplanet. :shrug:
good points, both.


:thumb:

whoman69
02-23-2012, 02:27 PM
If Pioli calls competition for Cassel someone like Henne or Clausen that are the 7-ups of this league (never had it, never will), he should be fired. If he wants to perpetrate that fraud to Chiefs fans, he's a spin doctor, not a GM.

Phobia
02-23-2012, 02:28 PM
Yep, I can't ban stupid.
We need better rules.