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ROYC75
02-23-2012, 02:08 AM
It's time to send them packing their bags to the SEC. As we approach this last Border War conf. game,leading up to tip off, try to recall some of the more memorial games between these two schools.

Will you miss this yearly battle in basketball ?

Will the NCAA selection committee align them up in future tournaments to rekindle the fire between the schools?

:KU: ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK, GO KU ! :KU:

chiefsfan987
02-23-2012, 02:54 AM
It's time to send them packing their bags to the SEC. As we approach this last Border War conf. game,leading up to tip off, try to recall some of the more memorial games between these two schools.

Will you miss this yearly battle in basketball ?
Will the NCAA selection committee align them up in future tournaments to rekindle the fire between the schools?

:KU: ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK, GO KU ! :KU:

Yes. I will and I hope KU reconsiders playing them in all sports, the sooner the better.

Braincase
02-23-2012, 06:08 AM
It'll be a great one, but I'm confident KU will play a full 40 minutes. I predict a double-digit win for KU.

Dartgod
02-23-2012, 06:12 AM
Bad karma will befall you for starting this thread so early.





At least, that's what I hope will happen. :grovel:

FishingRod
02-23-2012, 06:56 AM
Sorry Dartgod We gotta have this one. Funny thing is that for some reason MUs loss to KSU the other day has taken a great deal of the piss and vinegar out of both sides of this rivalry. For some reason both sides seem to be just assuming a KU victory. While the odds of KU losing a home game are never very good MU is the same team that was ranked 3rd in the nations this week and a crappy game against K-state the other night doesn’t have much to do with how the game will play out Saturday. They may play again in a few weeks in the big 12 tournament or perhaps…. not again for the next decade? As much as MU would enjoy winning this one we KU fans would hate to lose this game a gazillion more than that.

Nzoner
02-23-2012, 07:03 AM
No matter what happens I will forever remember being at part 1 of the final chapter,in fact Nzoner and 2 friends can be seen in this video starting at the 3:15 mark right above the KU score cheering on our beloved Tigers.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/e4hV0o3uqUs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

|Zach|
02-23-2012, 07:05 AM
For some reason both sides seem to be just assuming a KU victory.

o rly?

Nzoner
02-23-2012, 07:11 AM
o rly?

I think someone listened to Keitzman's show yesterday :rolleyes:

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 07:17 AM
I need to find MU's one shining moment youtube video and post it here...

FishingRod
02-23-2012, 07:53 AM
o rly?

rly

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 08:13 AM
2a_u0cH0hKI

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 08:14 AM
SEC is getting a very historic program... I hope they are ready...

Dartgod
02-23-2012, 08:43 AM
Brought to you by a fanbase that doesn't care about Mizzou.

Really. Just ask them.

Nzoner
02-23-2012, 08:59 AM
From football season yes,but still part of the rivalry and a damn fine shirt.

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/legacy_images/royalsreview/images/admin/scoreboard.jpg

Brock
02-23-2012, 09:01 AM
Gonna be an ass kicking. We promise we won't rush the court, we're used to it.

KILLER_CLOWN
02-23-2012, 09:07 AM
Is there a big game coming up soon?

Pants
02-23-2012, 09:07 AM
Is there a big game coming up soon?

Naw.

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 09:10 AM
Brought to you by a fanbase that doesn't care about Mizzou.

Really. Just ask them.


Awe how cute, he is trying to play the "fanbase dont care" card.

Really? LMAO

KILLER_CLOWN
02-23-2012, 09:11 AM
Looks like we get Verne Lundquist/Clark Kellogg as announcers, So I guess Elijah Robinson plays again!

Brock
02-23-2012, 09:12 AM
Brought to you by a fanbase that doesn't care about Mizzou.

Really. Just ask them.

You guys don't care about basketball, remember?

Nzoner
02-23-2012, 09:14 AM
Gonna be an ass kicking. We promise we won't rush the court, we're used to it.

Yeah I'm quite sure the Big 12 and the powers that be will do everything they can to make sure Mizzou gets a proper homecooked meal.

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 09:16 AM
Yeah I'm quite sure the Big 12 and the powers that be will do everything they can to make sure Mizzou gets a proper homecooked meal.

I hope so.... Its only fair, right? After that nice little home cooked meal you enjoyed...

Edit: I hope the Big 12 refs treat MU like the NFL refs treat the Raiders.

Nzoner
02-23-2012, 09:20 AM
Edit: I hope the Big 12 refs treat MU like the NFL refs treat the Raiders.

I doubt that I bet on the game but I'd definitely bet there's going to be a controversial call or 5.

HolyHandgernade
02-23-2012, 09:21 AM
MY first live game at AFH was against Missouri when they had Derrick Chievous and his band aide. I was at the #1 vs #2 game that we lost. I saw Anthony Peeler put on an incredible show, ultimately to no avail. I remember stealing the victory in Columbia to ensure the only perfect Big XII season. I remember chanting "Sit down Norm!"

Do I want it to end? No. Do I want it to continue? No, not really. Mizzou did what they thought was best for them, doesn't mean we have to soften any consequences of it.

BourbonMan
02-23-2012, 09:23 AM
Any idea who the Refs will be for that game...is there some schedule that shows what refs will be doing which games per week.

Brock
02-23-2012, 09:41 AM
Yeah I'm quite sure the Big 12 and the powers that be will do everything they can to make sure Mizzou gets a proper homecooked meal.

Whining about the refs already, eh?

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 09:42 AM
I doubt that I bet on the game but I'd definitely bet there's going to be a controversial call or 5.

Well if there is, at least we wont hear any MU fans complain about any of the calls, right?

MU fans never complain about officating... :thumb:

Bearcat
02-23-2012, 09:42 AM
Awe how cute, he is trying to play the "fanbase dont care" card.

Really? LMAO

It's their thing right now.

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 09:43 AM
It's their thing right now.

:thumb:

Mr. Plow
02-23-2012, 09:45 AM
Ugh, what kind of a game thread title is this?

Pants
02-23-2012, 09:49 AM
Ugh, what kind of a game thread title is this?

Someone should make a real one tomorrow.

Demonpenz
02-23-2012, 09:49 AM
I feel like the blue print on how to beat Mizzou is out there now. With them playing their style it caught people off-guard. Pun Intended. Great year for both sides, especially for Mizzou who has risen to new heights. Kansas has been amazing as well, especially when you have Conner Teahan roaming around out there.

kepp
02-23-2012, 09:50 AM
Looks like we get Verne Lundquist/Clark Kellogg as announcers, So I guess Elijah Robinson plays again!

:cuss:I thought he was declared ineligible

KILLER_CLOWN
02-23-2012, 09:50 AM
Why couldn't we have Harlan/Sundvold to announce the game, that would surely have been fitting.

Pants
02-23-2012, 09:50 AM
I feel like the blue print on how to beat Mizzou is out there now. With them playing their style it caught people off-guard. Pun Intended. Great year for both sides, especially for Mizzou who has risen to new heights. Kansas has been amazing as well, especially when you have Conner Teahan roaming around out there.

LMAO

kepp
02-23-2012, 09:53 AM
I feel like the blue print on how to beat Mizzou is out there now. With them playing their style it caught people off-guard. Pun Intended. Great year for both sides, especially for Mizzou who has risen to new heights. Kansas has been amazing as well, especially when you have Conner Teahan roaming around out there.

It was "out there" after our first loss to KSU, but it didn't do kansas any good the first time.

Nzoner
02-23-2012, 09:54 AM
Whining about the refs already, eh?

Nope,my,as some like to call them,conspiracy theories ,are well documented here on the planet.

Braincase
02-23-2012, 10:01 AM
Any idea who the Refs will be for that game...is there some schedule that shows what refs will be doing which games per week.

I'm guessing it will be officials that have experience officiating games involving top 10 teams and are primarily employed by the Big 12.

KC Tattoo
02-23-2012, 10:07 AM
Ugh, what kind of a game thread title is this?

Not even game day, bad karma.

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-23-2012, 10:10 AM
Yeah I'm quite sure the Big 12 and the powers that be will do everything they can to make sure Mizzou gets a proper homecooked meal.

Can we tip off before you guys start making excuses?

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 10:10 AM
It was "out there" after our first loss to KSU, but it didn't do kansas any good the first time.

I have a feeling this time will be different...

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-23-2012, 10:11 AM
Someone should make a real one tomorrow.

You just volunteered.... make it so!

Demonpenz
02-23-2012, 10:49 AM
It was "out there" after our first loss to KSU, but it didn't do kansas any good the first time.

Lets get real though. That was a once in a lifetime night in columbia. They pulled out all he stops. They brass at Mizzou was really wanting a nice family atmosphere with black eye'd peas intro, but Brian Grower sent a tweet to beg the higher ups to please...please dear God have the intro music include Eminem feat. Nate Dogg.

Nzoner
02-23-2012, 11:51 AM
Ugh, what kind of a game thread title is this?

Someone should make a real one tomorrow.


I hate to miss all the fun but I'll be at a watch party Saturday :)

Mr. Plow
02-23-2012, 11:55 AM
I hate to miss all the fun but I'll be at a watch party Saturday :)


I won't be here either, but the thread title made my brain hurt. LMAO

veist
02-23-2012, 11:56 AM
I'm guessing it will be officials that have experience officiating games involving top 10 teams and are primarily employed by the Big 12.

So Hightower again to call some more flops as charges?

Bearcat
02-23-2012, 11:58 AM
I won't be around, so you'll need to find someone else who can ban MU fans from the game thread.

Mr. Plow
02-23-2012, 11:59 AM
I won't be around, so you'll need to find someone else who can ban MU fans from the game thread.

Oh, there must be a hockey game on. :)

KC_Connection
02-23-2012, 12:04 PM
Yeah I'm quite sure the Big 12 and the powers that be will do everything they can to make sure Mizzou gets a proper homecooked meal.
I think you'd agree that would be only fair after what we saw in game 1. A 10 foul differential, wasn't it?

HemiEd
02-23-2012, 12:06 PM
Brought to you by a fanbase that doesn't care about Mizzou.

Really. Just ask them.

And Mizzou fans don't care about Basketball, it is irrelevant, just ask them.

Nzoner
02-23-2012, 12:07 PM
I won't be around, so you'll need to find someone else who can ban MU fans from the game thread.

As you're aware my mrs is a jayhawker and she has informed me she wants to go out with the rest of us Saturday.I've already told her that's fine but I don't want to hear it when I get loud and obnoxious because it's going to happen win or lose.

Thank God I won't be in the thread either :D

HemiEd
02-23-2012, 12:07 PM
Yeah I'm quite sure the Big 12 and the powers that be will do everything they can to make sure Mizzou gets a proper homecooked meal.

Uhoh, excuses already getting lined up. :D

Nzoner
02-23-2012, 12:08 PM
I think you'd agree that would be only fair after what we saw in game 1. A 10 foul differential, wasn't it?

Like I posted earlier,my conspiracy theories are well documented on the planet.

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 12:13 PM
Like I posted earlier,my conspiracy theories are well documented on the planet.

I am so looking forward to a lopsided foul count in KU's favor...

Bearcat
02-23-2012, 12:14 PM
Oh, there must be a hockey game on. :)

Time for a playoff push! It's not until 7 though, so I can catch it at BWW or some place... it's fun when everyone in the restaurant is into the game, but it's also kind of fun when you're the only one who even remotely cares (or knows what basketball is). :D

Pasta Giant Meatball
02-23-2012, 12:32 PM
2a_u0cH0hKI

That and anything else is still less embarrasing than having a cartoon Chicken Pilgrim logo and that lame ass sqwuak, sqwuak chicken hawk chant

Bowser
02-23-2012, 12:34 PM
The fuck is this? Game threads three days before the thread? Uber fail.

Pasta Giant Meatball
02-23-2012, 12:34 PM
I think you'd agree that would be only fair after what we saw in game 1. A 10 foul differential, wasn't it?

Still crying? :facepalm:

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 12:35 PM
That and anything else is still less embarrasing than having a cartoon Chicken Pilgrim logo and that lame ass sqwuak, sqwuak chicken hawk chant

:facepalm:

So creative...

veist
02-23-2012, 12:44 PM
:facepalm:

So creative...

I think meth just makes you aggressive and hyperactive, doesn't do anything to boost creativity.

Bearcat
02-23-2012, 12:49 PM
That and anything else is still less embarrasing than having a cartoon Chicken Pilgrim logo and that lame ass sqwuak, sqwuak chicken hawk chant

State trash talk and now mascot trash talk... our mascot is just as indigenous to Kansas as yours is to Missouri, so there!

Mr. Plow
02-23-2012, 12:50 PM
State trash talk and now mascot trash talk... our mascot is just as indigenous to Kansas as yours is to Missouri, so there!


Arrogance.

Bearcat
02-23-2012, 12:52 PM
Arrogance.

Stop caring!

Reerun_KC
02-23-2012, 12:56 PM
Arrogance.

It would be if you cared....

Bowser
02-23-2012, 01:14 PM
We'll send you pissants cards from all the cool places we get to go play next year, if you promise you'll stop hating us.

Mr. Plow
02-23-2012, 01:15 PM
We'll send you pissants cards from all the cool places we get to go play next year, if you promise you'll stop hating us.

No.

Bambi
02-23-2012, 01:17 PM
Some good ones starting to come out

https://p.twimg.com/AmWOERaCIAImhKQ.jpg:large

Bearcat
02-23-2012, 01:20 PM
We'll send you pissants cards from all the cool places we get to go play next year, if you promise you'll stop hating us.

Only if you promise to compare the best that the SEC has to offer with the worst of the B12.

Hi from the SEC tournament in Atlanta! I hope you enjoyed your trip to Lubbock this year, hahahaha!!

Bowser
02-23-2012, 01:21 PM
Only if you promise to compare the best that the SEC has to offer with the worst of the B12.

Hi from the SEC tournament in Atlanta! I hope you enjoyed your trip to Lubbock this year, hahahaha!!

Only because you asked. :D

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-23-2012, 01:22 PM
We'll send you pissants cards from all the cool places we get to go play next year, if you promise you'll stop hating us.

Can get a wallpaper of Arkansas?

HemiEd
02-23-2012, 01:26 PM
Only if you promise to compare the best that the SEC has to offer with the worst of the B12.

Hi from the SEC tournament in Atlanta! I hope you enjoyed your trip to Lubbock this year, hahahaha!!

That would be repetitive.

Saulgood already has posted that approximately 897 times in each of the 11 re-alignment threads. He usually referred to Ames, Iowa vs. Gainesville, Fl. or something similar IIRC, but Atlanta vs. Manhattan would be fair.

Pants
02-23-2012, 01:29 PM
You just volunteered.... make it so!

That would be bad juju, mon.

Mr. Plow
02-23-2012, 01:29 PM
That would be repetitive.

Saulgood already has posted that approximately 897 times in each of the 11 re-alignment threads. He usually referred to Ames, Iowa vs. Gainesville, Fl. or something similar IIRC, but Atlanta vs. Manhatten would be fair.


Columbia, MO.....not at all like Ames, Manhattan. Wait....what?

HemiEd
02-23-2012, 01:32 PM
Columbia, MO.....not at all like Ames, Manhattan. Wait....what?

ROFL, guess it all depends on the color glasses you are wearing.

KC_Connection
02-23-2012, 01:34 PM
Still crying? :facepalm:
What's to cry about? KU is expectedly leading the conference anyway and have the benefit of a home game left as well in which they should receive much the same benefits MU did.

ROYC75
02-23-2012, 01:37 PM
The **** is this? Game threads three days before the thread? Uber fail.

Nonsense, it gives the fans something to relive past games, etc. The fact that MU doesn't have that many mantles to hang their hardware on could be a reason you may be a little bitter ?

Here is a nice little column for both fans to enjoy , games over the years with video. ( Have not looked to see of this is already in the thread, too busy. )

http://kcsportsnation.com/2012/02/mu-ku-border-war-rememberance-videos-and-preview-links/

ROYC75
02-23-2012, 01:45 PM
That would be bad juju, mon.

Nonsense ........ Like the players and coaches are going to throw a game because of this thread ?

All of this bad mojo, crap, etc is, well .... just crap.

Bambi
02-23-2012, 01:55 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AmCcKU0CEAIdgdx.jpg:large

ROYC75
02-23-2012, 02:04 PM
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sjONkJr9gEI?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

HemiEd
02-23-2012, 02:06 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AmCcKU0CEAIdgdx.jpg:large

OMG, someone was pretty creative with that one.

Bearcat
02-23-2012, 02:06 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AmCcKU0CEAIdgdx.jpg:large

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Fish
02-23-2012, 02:10 PM
So the "Official" game thread is going to be at 20-30 some pages before the day of the game.

Fail.....

Nzoner
02-23-2012, 03:16 PM
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50313_56901183301_3062752_n.jpg

Brock
02-23-2012, 03:48 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AmCcKU0CEAIdgdx.jpg:large

Ha haaaaa!!

ROYC75
02-23-2012, 04:48 PM
So the "Official" game thread is going to be at 20-30 some pages before the day of the game.

Fail.....

It's not like we have never seen this before, after all, we are CP, right? A Bunch of Chiefs fanatics that has our own differences about our college teams.

Great Googly Moogly, only in America where this can happen, right ?

kchero
02-23-2012, 08:44 PM
Oh yeah,....well......here is a picture of baby Mangino....take that.

Braincase
02-23-2012, 09:27 PM
ROFL, guess it all depends on the color glasses you are wearing.

Or Hazmat Suit.

Braincase
02-23-2012, 09:29 PM
Thank you, God, that even though I was born in Iowa, your Grace led me to be raised in Kansas. I know that one year in Hickman Mills was just so I'd appreciate Kansas that much more.

kchero
02-23-2012, 10:15 PM
Thank you, God, that even though I was born in Iowa, your Grace led me to be raised in Kansas. I know that one year in Hickman Mills was just so I'd appreciate Kansas that much more.

When were you at Hickman Mills? I graduated from there in 2001.

ThatRaceCardGuy
02-23-2012, 10:44 PM
I hate you fuckin slavers.....Rock Chalk Bitchez

boogblaster
02-23-2012, 10:57 PM
lol .... GO HAWKS .....

Nzoner
02-24-2012, 05:59 AM
I hate you ****in slavers.....Rock Chalk Bitchez

*

Braincase
02-24-2012, 07:44 AM
When were you at Hickman Mills? I graduated from there in 2001.

Half of third grade, half of fourth grade at Santa Fe Elementary. Then my dad and a coworker bought the International Harvester franchise in Salina, Kansas, when the FTC was cracking on IH for owning all of their locations. My old man and the district sales manager were given three options - Salina, Kansas, Joplin, MO & Columbia, MO. They chose Salina because of it's history as a trucking hub and the fact it was the intersection of two major highways. It turned out to be a good choice.

Bearcat
02-24-2012, 07:58 AM
Half of third grade, half of fourth grade at Santa Fe Elementary.

I lived pretty close by, but went to Dobbs... and then spent a couple of weeks in their junior high while my parents closed on a house, so we could get the hell out of there.

RockChalk
02-24-2012, 08:00 AM
The Border Patrol has been promoting the game big time this morning. Danny Manning on at 9:05 and then Stormin Norman on shortly thereafter.

Lzen
02-24-2012, 08:05 AM
Brought to you by a fanbase that doesn't care about Mizzou.

Really. Just ask them.

I don't know where you get that idea. KU/MU rivalry is one of the best in sports. Too bad it will be ending, at least for awhile.

kepp
02-24-2012, 08:13 AM
I don't know where you get that idea. KU/MU rivalry is one of the best in sports. Too bad it will be ending, at least for awhile.

I've been hearing that from a lot of ku fans. Definitely not all, but a lot of them.

Lzen
02-24-2012, 08:16 AM
I've been hearing that from a lot of ku fans. Definitely not all, but a lot of them.

As a KU fan, I will miss the rivalry. But by no means do I blame KU for not wanting to continue it at this time. I understand their reasoning. I just hope one day we can get it going again.

Mr. Plow
02-24-2012, 08:18 AM
I don't know where you get that idea. KU/MU rivalry is one of the best in sports. Too bad it will be ending, at least for awhile.

You married a KSU fan, what do you know?












:D

Dartgod
02-24-2012, 08:18 AM
I don't know where you get that idea. KU/MU rivalry is one of the best in sports. Too bad it will be ending, at least for awhile.

As a whole? Probably not. But there are a enough douche bag KU fans to make it true.

HemiEd
02-24-2012, 08:22 AM
*

https://p.twimg.com/AmCcKU0CEAIdgdx.jpg:large

kepp
02-24-2012, 08:24 AM
https://p.twimg.com/AmCcKU0CEAIdgdx.jpg:large

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-myxTdJDTWuc/TlLWWlV3jHI/AAAAAAAAG5Y/d6Z_rvGeZ7E/s400/Reesing1.jpg

Bearcat
02-24-2012, 08:29 AM
I don't know where you get that idea. KU/MU rivalry is one of the best in sports. Too bad it will be ending, at least for awhile.

It's just one of their things right now... they take something that some idiot college kid says on phog.net or someone here says to push their buttons, and mock it for months like it's always been the opinion of the entire fanbase.... then they tell us how KU fans are obsessed with MU.

That said, the fact of the matter is that rivalries mean more when both teams are good, so it's really not hard to figure out why there's more discussion this season...

Lzen
02-24-2012, 08:36 AM
You married a KSU fan, what do you know?












:D
You hurt me, man.

Would it help if I said she has special "talents"?

Mr. Plow
02-24-2012, 08:38 AM
You hurt me, man.

Would it help if I said she has special "talents"?


LMAO

She does make some mean snack foods for KU games.

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-24-2012, 08:38 AM
As a whole? Probably not. But there are a enough douche bag KU fans to make it true.

Luckily for you guys there are no douchebag MU fans.

Mr. Plow
02-24-2012, 08:38 AM
It's just one of their things right now... they take something that some idiot college kid says on phog.net or someone here says to push their buttons, and mock it for months like it's always been the opinion of the entire fanbase.... then they tell us how KU fans are obsessed with MU.

That said, the fact of the matter is that rivalries mean more when both teams are good, so it's really not hard to figure out why there's more discussion this season...


Arrogant. Hockey. Quidditch.

Bambi
02-24-2012, 08:40 AM
I don't know where you get that idea. KU/MU rivalry is one of the best in sports. Too bad it will be ending, at least for awhile.

You are one of the only KU fans I "know" that feels that way.

Most say MU was given the chance multiple times to compete with Kansas and they made their decision.

KU now has a full football schedule and plenty of basketball games scheduled for the coming years. It's unfortunate for MU that they didn't plan this out better but it is what it is.

Lzen
02-24-2012, 08:41 AM
LMAO

She does make some mean snack foods for KU games. well of course that's what I was talking about. Cooking, and cleaning,
Child rearing.

Mr. Plow
02-24-2012, 08:42 AM
well of course that's what I was talking about. Cooking, and cleaning,
Child rearing.


LMAO

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 09:08 AM
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2012/feb/24/stallworths-50-turns-40/

I was at this game when Bud Stallworth dropped 50 on MU's heads.:)

kchero
02-24-2012, 09:17 AM
Half of third grade, half of fourth grade at Santa Fe Elementary. Then my dad and a coworker bought the International Harvester franchise in Salina, Kansas, when the FTC was cracking on IH for owning all of their locations. My old man and the district sales manager were given three options - Salina, Kansas, Joplin, MO & Columbia, MO. They chose Salina because of it's history as a trucking hub and the fact it was the intersection of two major highways. It turned out to be a good choice.

Right on, I dont blame you for the bad taste in your mouth with MO, when it comes to being in the Hickman Mills district. I went there from grade school to high school and that place is almost as bad as the KC School district. It seems like the suburbs (either on the MO or KS side) are the only places for a quality education in this city, unless you want to go the private school route.

I lived pretty close by, but went to Dobbs... and then spent a couple of weeks in their junior high while my parents closed on a house, so we could get the hell out of there.

I hear ya, I was at Truman and then Ervin for Jr. High....I am sure that is the school your thinking of.

Nzoner
02-24-2012, 09:30 AM
As a KU fan, I will miss the rivalry. But by no means do I blame KU for not wanting to continue it at this time. I understand their reasoning. I just hope one day we can get it going again.

IF and it's a big IF Mizzou can somehow manage the upset tomorrow something tells me we won't be waiting long.

Bearcat
02-24-2012, 09:44 AM
I hear ya, I was at Truman and then Ervin for Jr. High....I am sure that is the school your thinking of.

Yeah, Ervin... a kid broke another kid's arm the week before we moved to the Northland, and that was just one thing that made it easy to say goodbye.

Lakeview Middle School, which is across the street from the uppity Riss Lake subdivision (probably all KU fans) in the Northland, had just been built when we moved. Brand new/brightly colored lockers, carpet, a huge gym, computers... I had no idea such a school existed up to that point, heh.

Trevo_410
02-24-2012, 09:51 AM
IF and it's a big IF Mizzou can somehow manage the upset tomorrow something tells me we won't be waiting long.

They'd come up with an even lamer excuse to not play us if we beat them...

"Why should we play you? We have nothing to gain."

ORLY YOU SCARED EGOTISTICAL SOBS?!

But yeh, they got their excuses set up for every scenario involving Mizzou. They had some when we left for the SEC. They had some when Mizzou beat them a few weeks ago. No doubt they have some already set up for tommorrows game if we win.

Lzen
02-24-2012, 09:53 AM
They'd come up with an even lamer excuse to not play us if we beat them...

"Why should we play you? We have nothing to gain."

ORLY YOU SCARED EGOTISTICAL SOBS?!

But yeh, they got their excuses set up for every scenario involving Mizzou. They had some when we left for the SEC. They had some when Mizzou beat them a few weeks ago. No doubt they have some already set up for tommorrows game if we win.

Actually, that is a very good reason to not play MU. KU doesn't have anything to gain. That and punishing them for leaving are good reasons. The only people that would gain are fans that are wanting to continue the rivalry. Anyone with at least a bit of intelligence can see that. I wouldn't expect a MUron like you to understand that.

Bambi
02-24-2012, 10:03 AM
They'd come up with an even lamer excuse to not play us if we beat them...

"Why should we play you? We have nothing to gain."

ORLY YOU SCARED EGOTISTICAL SOBS?!

But yeh, they got their excuses set up for every scenario involving Mizzou. They had some when we left for the SEC. They had some when Mizzou beat them a few weeks ago. No doubt they have some already set up for tommorrows game if we win.

KU gave MU the opportunity to continue the rivalry. MU declined.

What is so hard to understand?

Bambi
02-24-2012, 10:04 AM
Damn, hits keep comin

Bambi
02-24-2012, 10:06 AM
Actually, that is a very good reason to not play MU. KU doesn't have anything to gain. That and punishing them for leaving are good reasons. The only people that would gain are fans that are wanting to continue the rivalry. Anyone with at least a bit of intelligence can see that. I wouldn't expect a MUron like you to understand that.

The only reason I would want to keep playing MU is that they have a much easier football program to beat than either TCU or WVU.

So from a competitive reason I could see not playing MU as a problem.

But the football schedule is full so can't really do anything about it.

Trevo_410
02-24-2012, 10:13 AM
KU gave MU the opportunity to continue the rivalry. MU declined.

What is so hard to understand?

We're not going to ultimately care what KU thinks of our conference affiliation and I don't see why you think that KU has any say in that matter...

We're not the ones declining to continue the rivalry, KU is.

If you want to look like pussies backing out of our offer. Go ahead, but I don't see how fucking a different brand on a basketball court/ football field has changed anything about the border war rivalry. Most of the time it wasn't about conference wins, it was about bragging rights and completely showing up to work the next day acting like a douchebag rightfully so.

Mr. Plow
02-24-2012, 10:15 AM
They'd come up with an even lamer excuse to not play us if we beat them...

"Why should we play you? We have nothing to gain."

ORLY YOU SCARED EGOTISTICAL SOBS?!

But yeh, they got their excuses set up for every scenario involving Mizzou. They had some when we left for the SEC. They had some when Mizzou beat them a few weeks ago. No doubt they have some already set up for tommorrows game if we win.


We scared.

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 10:15 AM
They'd come up with an even lamer excuse to not play us if we beat them...

"Why should we play you? We have nothing to gain."

ORLY YOU SCARED EGOTISTICAL SOBS?!

But yeh, they got their excuses set up for every scenario involving Mizzou. They had some when we left for the SEC. They had some when Mizzou beat them a few weeks ago. No doubt they have some already set up for tommorrows game if we win.

Bitter ?

I guess the overall wins has MU fans really upset, you think by continuing playing KU you will catch up in basketball. Football is about all you got and it's pretty even come to think about it.

The current schedule does not allow it at the present time. It's very possible one day it will start up again.

Trevo_410
02-24-2012, 10:16 AM
Bitter ?

I guess the overall wins has MU fans really upset, you think by continuing playing KU you will catch up in basketball. Football is about all you got and it's pretty even come to think about it.

The current schedule does not allow it at the present time. It's very possible one day it will start up again.

I don't really care about the history of my program. I live in the here and now. So no.

Bearcat
02-24-2012, 10:18 AM
Surprised it took this long to rehash this crap...

CoMoChief
02-24-2012, 10:27 AM
AFH usually gives Kansas about 10pts I would say. And I expect MU not to play as well as they did last time, and Kansas shouldn't lay down the last few mins esp at home. I say Kansas wins by double figures.

CoMoChief
02-24-2012, 10:28 AM
I don't really care about the history of my program. I live in the here and now. So no.

ah..you're one of those people...

these are the kinds of people that like to stir and twist stats and history to make it support their argument.

A very liberal way of thinking.....do you support Obama too?

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 10:34 AM
I don't really care about the history of my program. I live in the here and now. So no.

I see, a bandwagon fan, only here when the going is good ?

Sweet!:thumb:

Trevo_410
02-24-2012, 10:37 AM
I see, a bandwagon fan, only here when the going is good ?

Sweet!:thumb:

I've been a Mizzou fan since I was in elementary school. You don't find me any time outside of work without atleast one piece of mizzou gear on. Same goes all the way up through school.

kepp
02-24-2012, 10:38 AM
AFH usually gives Kansas about 10pts I would say. And I expect MU not to play as well as they did last time, and Kansas shouldn't lay down the last few mins esp at home. I say Kansas wins by double figures.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2012/feb/23/the-value-of-the-venue/?tigerextra

The five most advantageous venues belong to Denver, Northern Arizona, Wyoming, Utah Valley and Toledo — none of them basketball powerhouses. Home court is worth nine to 11 points per game for those teams. In other words, if they played an equal opponent, they would usually win by nine to 11 points at home.

Kansas ranks 86th, with a five-point home-court advantage.

Five points.

Trevo_410
02-24-2012, 10:39 AM
ah..you're one of those people...

these are the kinds of people that like to stir and twist stats and history to make it support their argument.

A very liberal way of thinking.....do you support Obama too?

I don't have comebacks purely based on what happened a century/decade/year ago... It doesn't usually matter.

Bearcat
02-24-2012, 10:56 AM
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2012/feb/23/the-value-of-the-venue/?tigerextra



Five points.

Keep reading...

A team that is consistently good everywhere will rank lower. Connecticut, for example, has won three national titles under Jim Calhoun but ranks 315th in home-court advantage.

Bearcat
02-24-2012, 11:08 AM
To be more specific, yes, losing once every 3 or 4 years at home just doesn't look as impressive when you consider they've averaged ~4 losses per year total since Self's first full freshmen class.


I enjoyed this stat. For all of the great success we see at AFH...

"Just two of 10 teams in the Big 12 Conference have won more league road games than they have lost during Bill Self’s nine seasons at Kansas University.

They are ... KU, which takes a 50-17 league road record (.746) under Self into today’s 1 p.m. contest at Iowa State, and Rick Barnes’ Texas Longhorns, a whopping 15 games behind the Jayhawks at 35-32 (.522).

All other teams in the conference are way, way, way under .500 in enemy gyms. Kansas State is 28-40, Texas A&M 27-41, Oklahoma 23-44, Missouri 21-47, Oklahoma State 19-48, Baylor 15-53, Texas Tech 14-53 and Iowa State 12-56."

lcarus
02-24-2012, 11:14 AM
I don't really care about the history of my program.

If I were a fan of them, I wouldn't care about the history of the program either....

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-24-2012, 11:21 AM
You don't find me any time outside of work without atleast one piece of mizzou gear on. Same goes all the way up through school.

So you have the worlds biggest ugly clothes collection. Is that why you're so angry?

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 11:26 AM
So you have the worlds biggest ugly clothes collection. Is that why you're so angry?

I sense this from him too! :thumb:

Bambi
02-24-2012, 11:44 AM
We're not going to ultimately care what KU thinks of our conference affiliation and I don't see why you think that KU has any say in that matter...

We're not the ones declining to continue the rivalry, KU is.

If you want to look like pussies backing out of our offer. Go ahead, but I don't see how ****ing a different brand on a basketball court/ football field has changed anything about the border war rivalry. Most of the time it wasn't about conference wins, it was about bragging rights and completely showing up to work the next day acting like a douchebag rightfully so.

I don't understand what you are saying.

KU offered to extend the rivalry multiple times. MU declined.

If anyone looks like a "pussy". Its the teams that left the comference. Just because you've never won something before doesn't mean you run from it.

Men don't do such things.

mnchiefsguy
02-24-2012, 11:56 AM
I don't understand what you are saying.

KU offered to extend the rivalry multiple times. MU declined.

If anyone looks like a "pussy". Its the teams that left the comference. Just because you've never won something before doesn't mean you run from it.

Men don't do such things.

And what offers would those be? KU has offered nothing and you know it. This is a bold faced lie. Mizzou has a standing offer on the table to continue the rivalry....KU is choosing to walk away. That is the facts of the case.

Conference affiliation and rivalry games are not mutually exclusive...unless you are KU, in which case they are because Texas told you so.

BourbonMan
02-24-2012, 11:57 AM
KU offered to extend the rivalry multiple times. MU declined.
Explain this to me please, because you are making it sound like MU left the conference because they didn't want to play KU anymore. Ku had nothing to do with MU leaving the conference, MU left the conference because of the in-stability of the conference and also because of Texas controlling the conference...it had nothing to do with KU...So how and when did KU offer to entend the rivalry.

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:07 PM
KU administration said multiple times that Kansas plays in the Big XII or a "midwest conference" as how SZ put it.

If MU wished to compete with KU going forward they must choose to stay in the conference associated with Kansas. Kansas already has full football and basketball schedules thus adding any additional non-con opponents was not possible.

Missouri decided to go through with moving to the S.E.C.

I'm having a hard time grasping why some of you don't understand this. It has been KU's position since the beginning.

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:09 PM
And what offers would those be? KU has offered nothing and you know it. This is a bold faced lie. Mizzou has a standing offer on the table to continue the rivalry....KU is choosing to walk away. That is the facts of the case.

Conference affiliation and rivalry games are not mutually exclusive...unless you are KU, in which case they are because Texas told you so.

You can call Bill Self and Shane Zenger liars all you want just like you call me. Believe me, I'd rather be associated with those two men one million times over over your stupid ass.

Please, gtfo.

Lzen
02-24-2012, 12:11 PM
And what offers would those be? KU has offered nothing and you know it. This is a bold faced lie. Mizzou has a standing offer on the table to continue the rivalry....KU is choosing to walk away. That is the facts of the case.

Conference affiliation and rivalry games are not mutually exclusive...unless you are KU, in which case they are because Texas told you so.

Actually, KU choosing not to continue the rivalry has nothing to do with Texas. It has everything to do with KU punishing them for putting the conference in jeopardy. And, of course, we've already been through why it doesn't really benefit KU to play MU in hoops or football right now.

Nzoner
02-24-2012, 12:12 PM
So you have the worlds biggest ugly clothes collection. Is that why you're so angry?

I sense this from him too! :thumb:

Oh for fock's sake a red,yellow and blue mythical bird(real manly colors there) over a black and gold tiger,you may have bragging rights on the BB record but don't even think you come close to logo and colors.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2011/03/jayhawk.jpg

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:12 PM
Explain this to me please, because you are making it sound like MU left the conference because they didn't want to play KU anymore. Ku had nothing to do with MU leaving the conference, MU left the conference because of the in-stability of the conference and also because of Texas controlling the conference...it had nothing to do with KU...So how and when did KU offer to entend the rivalry.

How does Texas control the conference?

Sure their 3rd tier rights deal is bigger than KU but KU pulls in millions of dollars a year in 3rd tier money, has countless conf titles, and NC and a BCS victory since joinging the conference.

Don't blame us because your school hasn't shared the same success. Its not Texas' fault either.

Lzen
02-24-2012, 12:14 PM
Oh for fock's sake a red,yellow and blue mythical bird(real manly colors there) over a black and gold tiger,you may have bragging rights on the BB record but don't even think you come close to logo and colors.



At least our mascot is something original. How many Tigers or Wildcats are there in college sports? Quite a few.

BourbonMan
02-24-2012, 12:14 PM
KU administration said multiple times that Kansas plays in the Big XII or a "midwest conference" as how SZ put it.

If MU wished to compete with KU going forward they must choose to stay in the conference associated with Kansas. Kansas already has full football and basketball schedules thus adding any additional non-con opponents was not possible.

Missouri decided to go through with moving to the S.E.C.

I'm having a hard time grasping why some of you don't understand this. It has been KU's position since the beginning.

OH, OK....So now you are saying that KU is the Ruling Body of the Big XII and not Texas...and KU is the one who gave MU the final ultimatium to leave or stay....I see everything so clear now......I see that you are so full of S...t

Trevo_410
02-24-2012, 12:14 PM
How does Texas control the conference?

Sure their 3rd tier rights deal is bigger than KU but KU pulls in millions of dollars a year in 3rd tier money, has countless conf titles, and NC and a BCS victory since joinging the conference.

Don't blame us because your school hasn't shared the same success. Its not Texas' fault either.

We're not leaving because of "failed success", dumbass.

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:15 PM
Actually, KU choosing not to continue the rivalry has nothing to do with Texas. It has everything to do with KU punishing them for putting the conference in jeopardy. And, of course, we've already been through why it doesn't really benefit KU to play MU in hoops or football right now.

KU not playing MU has nothing do with MU either. Its simply a matter of schedule.

If KU meets MU in a tournament or bowl game KU will play them just like anyone else.

Trevo_410
02-24-2012, 12:16 PM
At least our mascot is something original. How many Tigers or Wildcats are there in college sports? Quite a few.

There's a reason behind our mascot just like your pathetic meaning of a mascot.

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:17 PM
I find it hilarious how easy it is for MU fans, administration and boosters talk so tough now about playing KU "anytime, anywhere" when they were the ones that decided to end the series.

That's just beyond pathetic.

BourbonMan
02-24-2012, 12:17 PM
KU not playing MU has nothing do with MU either. Its simply a matter of schedule.

If KU meets MU in a tournament or bowl game KU will play them just like anyone else.

OMG....You actually said something that was true.

Trevo_410
02-24-2012, 12:18 PM
I find it hilarious how easy it is for MU fans, administration and boosters talk so tough now about playing KU "anytime, anywhere" when they were the ones that decided to end the series.

That's just beyond pathetic.

We left the conference for stability and more money. We're not running away from the rivalry unlike you pussies.

Pasta Giant Meatball
02-24-2012, 12:19 PM
I don't understand what you are saying.

KU offered to extend the rivalry multiple times. MU declined.

If anyone looks like a "pussy". Its the teams that left the comference. Just because you've never won something before doesn't mean you run from it.

Men don't do such things.

You really are one clueless sumbitch

Pasta Giant Meatball
02-24-2012, 12:21 PM
Oh for fock's sake a red,yellow and blue mythical bird(real manly colors there) over a black and gold tiger,you may have bragging rights on the BB record but don't even think you come close to logo and colors.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2011/03/jayhawk.jpg

Chicken head guy from VCU game for the checkmate

Lzen
02-24-2012, 12:22 PM
KU not playing MU has nothing do with MU either. Its simply a matter of schedule.

If KU meets MU in a tournament or bowl game KU will play them just like anyone else.

I believe I read that they won't play MU in football right now as they will only have 3 non-cons and they want to put easier teams on the schedule. That makes perfect sense for a rebuilding program.

As far as hoops goes, they could easily add MU to the non-con. They reason they won't right now is because they feel that MU helped make the B12 unstable and they don't want to reward them. But it is like you suggested in the sense that KU does not need MU in any way, shape or form when it comes to basketball. Anyone can see that.

Nzoner
02-24-2012, 12:22 PM
At least our mascot is something original. How many Tigers or Wildcats are there in college sports? Quite a few.

It's not like we pulled the name out of our ass,study the actual history of our Tiger name,it was the name given to the militia who guarded Columbia because Kansans couldn't stay on their side of the border and by pulling that crap got their precious town of Lawrence burnt.

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:22 PM
We're not leaving because of "failed success", dumbass.

Its the only trait all 4 departing schools share.

Lzen
02-24-2012, 12:23 PM
You really are one clueless sumbitch
.
We left the conference for stability and more money. We're not running away from the rivalry unlike you pussies.

Pasta Giant Meatball
02-24-2012, 12:26 PM
At least our mascot is something original. How many Tigers or Wildcats are there in college sports? Quite a few.

A flaming bag of poop would be original....and an upgrade.

Scaga
02-24-2012, 12:30 PM
Did know you all saw this yet...if it's a repost, I really dont' give a $hit.


KU hosting more than just Mizzou Saturday
February, 24, 2012 Feb 2411:43AM ETEmail Print Comments1By Dave TelepThere is not a better place to be this weekend than Lawrence, Kan., where Bill Self’s overachieving Jayhawks take on Frank Haith’s Missouri Tigers. Phog Allen Fieldhouse is as good as it gets for any game, but this one has special moment tattooed all over it.

In addition to the Tigers, the Jayhawks invited a plethora of prospects to their party. The Kansas-Missouri game has ramifications for this season, but the recruits that will be in Lawrence hold the key to future seasons.

The nation’s best scorer, senior Shabazz Muhammad (Las Vegas/Bishop Gorman) will be in the house. Obviously, he’s a game-changing recruit for Self. Jakarr Sampson (Akron, Ohio/Brewster) is a forward who has the look and feel of a guy who is in Self’s wheelhouse; he’ll be there too. On Thursday, we heard big man Tony Parker (Lithonia, Ga./Miller Grove) wasn’t going to make the trip and then boom, we hear the visit is on. We’ll know for sure once he arrives in Lawrence, but the expectation as of Friday morning is for him to be one of three elite seniors in attendance.
To continue reading this article you must

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:32 PM
I believe I read that they won't play MU in football right now as they will only have 3 non-cons and they want to put easier teams on the schedule. That makes perfect sense for a rebuilding program.

As far as hoops goes, they could easily add MU to the non-con. They reason they won't right now is because they feel that MU helped make the B12 unstable and they don't want to reward them. But it is like you suggested in the sense that KU does not need MU in any way, shape or form when it comes to basketball. Anyone can see that.

We will only play 3 non-con's yes.

The teams that came into the are also both better than MU.

So yes, I wouldn't schedule a team like missouri anymore than I would schedule a uconn, purdue or wazzu. There's no point when faced with the murderer's row that HCCW is faced with this year.

Trevo_410
02-24-2012, 12:32 PM
It's just another game.

....

kepp
02-24-2012, 12:34 PM
Oh for fock's sake a red,yellow and blue mythical bird(real manly colors there) over a black and gold tiger,you may have bragging rights on the BB record but don't even think you come close to logo and colors.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2011/03/jayhawk.jpg

Wait...I wonder if that is wickedson

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:36 PM
Did know you all saw this yet...if it's a repost, I really dont' give a $hit.


KU hosting more than just Mizzou Saturday
February, 24, 2012 Feb 2411:43AM ETEmail Print Comments1By Dave TelepThere is not a better place to be this weekend than Lawrence, Kan., where Bill Self’s overachieving Jayhawks take on Frank Haith’s Missouri Tigers. Phog Allen Fieldhouse is as good as it gets for any game, but this one has special moment tattooed all over it.

In addition to the Tigers, the Jayhawks invited a plethora of prospects to their party. The Kansas-Missouri game has ramifications for this season, but the recruits that will be in Lawrence hold the key to future seasons.

The nation’s best scorer, senior Shabazz Muhammad (Las Vegas/Bishop Gorman) will be in the house. Obviously, he’s a game-changing recruit for Self. Jakarr Sampson (Akron, Ohio/Brewster) is a forward who has the look and feel of a guy who is in Self’s wheelhouse; he’ll be there too. On Thursday, we heard big man Tony Parker (Lithonia, Ga./Miller Grove) wasn’t going to make the trip and then boom, we hear the visit is on. We’ll know for sure once he arrives in Lawrence, but the expectation as of Friday morning is for him to be one of three elite seniors in attendance.
To continue reading this article you must


Going to be a lot more than these three there sat. I'm hearing 6-7 and I'm sure some football guys will find their way in too.

But yes, Shabazz is the prize.

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:38 PM
Wait...I wonder if that is wickedson

No, I was in brooklyn for that game. And I wasn't crying, I was breaking things.

mnchiefsguy
02-24-2012, 12:39 PM
I find it hilarious how easy it is for MU fans, administration and boosters talk so tough now about playing KU "anytime, anywhere" when they were the ones that decided to end the series.

That's just beyond pathetic.


MU did not decide to end the series, KU did. Just because KU stomped its feet and made an ultimatum does not change the fact that MU has an open offer to play KU, and KU has refused.


You have failed to list the multiple offers you cited earlier in the thread. Therefore, you have state that which is not true.....LIAR. You attempt to distort facts has been noted.

sedated
02-24-2012, 12:41 PM
This thread is exactly the reason this rivalry NEEDS to end. A single mention of either school in any context brings out the worst in both fanbases.

And on a personal note, MU fans can stop with the “KU killed the rivalry”. There is no choice – once they are no longer in the same conference, the rivalry is dead. Talk all you want to about Mizzou/Illinois, it may be an entertaining game for the people in STL, but I’m sure neither fanbase sees it as a heated rivalry.

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:42 PM
OH, OK....So now you are saying that KU is the Ruling Body of the Big XII and not Texas...and KU is the one who gave MU the final ultimatium to leave or stay....I see everything so clear now......I see that you are so full of S...t

No one rules the Big XII.

Why r u MU dudes so angry at us? I don't get you. Aren't you happy you're leaving?

sedated
02-24-2012, 12:42 PM
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mnchiefsguy
02-24-2012, 12:43 PM
No one rules the Big XII.

Why r u MU dudes so angry at us? I don't get you. Aren't you happy you're leaving?

We are tired of your lies and half truths.

Still waiting...what were those "multiple offers" again?

mnchiefsguy
02-24-2012, 12:44 PM
No one rules the Big XII.

Why r u MU dudes so angry at us? I don't get you. Aren't you happy you're leaving?

Keep telling yourself that, especially once Texas and OU decide to leave for greener pastures.

Bambi
02-24-2012, 12:45 PM
MU did not decide to end the series, KU did. Just because KU stomped its feet and made an ultimatum does not change the fact that MU has an open offer to play KU, and KU has refused.


You have failed to list the multiple offers you cited earlier in the thread. Therefore, you have state that which is not true.....LIAR. You attempt to distort facts has been noted.

I'm on my phone right now but when I get to a computer I'll be happy to provide you links to Shane Zenger and Bill Self's comments on the situation. I find it surprising that you weren't aware of KU's position on the matter all along. You seem to follow me along in these threads pretty well.

Lzen
02-24-2012, 12:46 PM
We will only play 3 non-con's yes.

The teams that came into the are also both better than MU.

So yes, I wouldn't schedule a team like missouri anymore than I would schedule a uconn, purdue or wazzu. There's no point when faced with the murderer's row that HCCW is faced with this year.

I like to view things in reality. And that means that I don't think those (football)programs are better than MU is right now. I would say they are about equal. However, if you want to say the pair (as a whole) coming in are better than the pair leaving, I would agree.

kepp
02-24-2012, 12:47 PM
I'm on my phone right now but when I get to a computer I'll be happy to provide you links to Shane Zenger and Bill Self's comments on the situation. I find it surprising that you weren't aware of KU's position on the matter all along. You seem to follow me along in these threads pretty well.

What you're referencing isn't an "offer", it's a weak attempt at an ultimatum trying to convince us to stay in the conference. MU's offer is an actual offer. We will play you regardless of conference affiliation.

KC Tattoo
02-24-2012, 12:49 PM
[QUOTE=Nzoner;8395389]Oh for fock's sake a red,yellow and blue mythical bird(real manly colors there) over a black and gold tiger,you may have bragging rights on the BB record but don't even think you come close to logo and colors.

This is what winning a National Championship Title looks like.
If you havn't seen one?

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Lzen
02-24-2012, 12:49 PM
This thread is exactly the reason this rivalry NEEDS to end. A single mention of either school in any context brings out the worst in both fanbases.

And on a personal note, MU fans can stop with the “KU killed the rivalry”. There is no choice – once they are no longer in the same conference, the rivalry is dead. Talk all you want to about Mizzou/Illinois, it may be an entertaining game for the people in STL, but I’m sure neither fanbase sees it as a heated rivalry.

Good post.

mnchiefsguy
02-24-2012, 12:52 PM
What you're referencing isn't an "offer", it's a weak attempt at an ultimatum trying to convince us to stay in the conference. MU's offer is an actual offer. We will play you regardless of conference affiliation.

Bingo. Wickedson needs to use that fancy phone of his and look up a dictionary. He clears does not know what "offer' means.

So he is either a liar or an idiot...which is it Wickedson?

Lzen
02-24-2012, 12:54 PM
[quote=Nzoner;8395389]Oh for fock's sake a red,yellow and blue mythical bird(real manly colors there) over a black and gold tiger,you may have bragging rights on the BB record but don't even think you come close to logo and colors.

This is what winning a National Championship Title looks like.
If you havn't seen one?

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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/o1QuR5TQhP4?version=3&feature=player_detailpage" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="360" width="640"></object>

I can't see that enough. :thumb:

KurtCobain
02-24-2012, 12:57 PM
I'm pretty pissed of at sedated for ruining the rivalry. Fucking lame, he is.

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 01:07 PM
All good things do come to an end .... MU chose to leave. That's a lot of years aligned with KU to give up. It was MU's choice to leave, as it is KU's to not play MU since it brings very little to the table by way of recruiting. KU is already in the KC market and a solid draw in St Louis.

The only thing to keep going is the Border War for the fans. Maybe this will give it the time to finally cool off. It's sad that in today's society that people can revert back to the 1800's to prove a point for personal gain.

I guess everybody needs a small victory in life now and then to prop themselves up.

BourbonMan
02-24-2012, 01:17 PM
I know what wickedson is trying to say....KU will not continue this Rivalry, because they already have the next 3yrs (something like that) booked for non-conference games, and MU is not on that list. After 3yrs, who knows.

I have an Great Idea on how to fix this, since MU nd KU hate each other sooo much, what if the 2 schools and KANSAS CITY were to agree for a game at Arrowhead, just for these 2 schools....It would be a non-non-conference game and would have no implications on either schools record and the rivalry could then continue....thoughts?

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 01:26 PM
I know what wickedson is trying to say....KU will not continue this Rivalry, because they already have the next 3yrs (something like that) booked for non-conference games, and MU is not on that list. After 3yrs, who knows.

I have an Great Idea on how to fix this, since MU nd KU hate each other sooo much, what if the 2 schools and KANSAS CITY were to agree for a game at Arrowhead, just for these 2 schools....It would be a non-non-conference game and would have no implications on either schools record and the rivalry could then continue....thoughts?

I do not think NCAA rules allow this.

Lzen
02-24-2012, 01:59 PM
I know what wickedson is trying to say....KU will not continue this Rivalry, because they already have the next 3yrs (something like that) booked for non-conference games, and MU is not on that list. After 3yrs, who knows.

I have an Great Idea on how to fix this, since MU nd KU hate each other sooo much, what if the 2 schools and KANSAS CITY were to agree for a game at Arrowhead, just for these 2 schools....It would be a non-non-conference game and would have no implications on either schools record and the rivalry could then continue....thoughts?

Not much to a rivalry if the game doesn't mean anything. Well, I suppose there's bragging rights. But I doubt either school would go for something like that. Besides I don't know if playing a game that wouldn't count (exhibition game ?) is even allowed by the NCAA.

Braincase
02-24-2012, 02:01 PM
What you're referencing isn't an "offer", it's a weak attempt at an ultimatum trying to convince us to stay in the conference. MU's offer is an actual offer. We will play you regardless of conference affiliation.
MU doesn't want to have anything to do with the BIG 12. We're merely accommodating, and remaining loyal to our conference over rivalries. MU made their choice. So did we.

Trevo_410
02-24-2012, 02:03 PM
MU doesn't want to have anything to do with the BIG 12. We're merely accommodating, and remaining loyal to our conference over rivalries. MU made their choice. So did we.

/thread ku is the one backing out of the rivalry, by a true ku fan.

KILLER_CLOWN
02-24-2012, 02:04 PM
It isn't really a rivalry, we gain nothing by playing that game. I say we schedule Kentucky instead.

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 02:09 PM
It isn't really a rivalry, we gain nothing by playing that game. I say we schedule Kentucky instead.

I'm all for this, as far as recruiting goes much bigger implications in basketball and the usual small recruiting base in football.

KILLER_CLOWN
02-24-2012, 02:11 PM
I'm all for this, as far as recruiting goes much bigger implications in basketball and the usual small recruiting base in football.

It would work out much better, The KU fans would actually have the same excitement as the UK fans would.

BourbonMan
02-24-2012, 02:13 PM
I know what wickedson is trying to say....KU will not continue this Rivalry, because they already have the next 3yrs (something like that) booked for non-conference games, and MU is not on that list. After 3yrs, who knows.

I have an Great Idea on how to fix this, since MU nd KU hate each other sooo much, what if the 2 schools and KANSAS CITY were to agree for a game at Arrowhead, just for these 2 schools....It would be a non-non-conference game and would have no implications on either schools record and the rivalry could then continue....thoughts?

I meant to add Sprint Center in there for BB games.

BourbonMan
02-24-2012, 02:16 PM
It isn't really a rivalry, we gain nothing by playing that game. I say we schedule Kentucky instead.


Well MU doesn't gain anything from it either...and that's what I'm saying...It would be for pure bragging rights only...and that way neither team can say....IT'S YOUR FAULT, the rivalry ended.

KILLER_CLOWN
02-24-2012, 02:19 PM
Well MU doesn't gain anything from it either...and that's what I'm saying...It would be for pure bragging rights only...and that way neither team can say....IT'S YOUR FAULT, the rivalry ended.

Most KU fans don't really care, Missouri tried it's best to destroy the conference. If MU valued the rivalry they should have stayed.

BourbonMan
02-24-2012, 02:24 PM
Most KU fans don't really care, Missouri tried it's best to destroy the conference. If MU valued the rivalry they should have stayed.

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: This is what most people feel like, talking to a KU fan.

KILLER_CLOWN
02-24-2012, 02:27 PM
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: This is what most people feel like, talking to a KU fan.

I'm not trying to be mean, it's just the truth. Give it a few years and it might happen but not at this point.

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 02:29 PM
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: This is what most people feel like, talking to a KU fan.

You do not agree that MU tried to leave for the B10+1, doing their crying first. Then they cried cause NU got the bid for the B10+1. Then MU wanted to play nice and hold the B12 together to only turn around and crap in the B12 face for the SEC.

I didn't see KU doing any of this. Now the cousins to the east of KC wants to kiss and make up ?

Sorry, enjoy your new found love, the UK hillbilly's, they go hand in foot like the Ozark hillbilly's.

BourbonMan
02-24-2012, 02:35 PM
You do not agree that MU tried to leave for the B10+1, doing their crying first. Then they cried cause NU got the bid for the B10+1. Then MU wanted to play nice and hold the B12 together to only turn around and crap in the B12 face for the SEC.

I didn't see KU doing any of this. Now the cousins to the east of KC wants to kiss and make up ?

Sorry, enjoy your new found love, the UK hillbilly's, they go hand in foot like the Ozark hillbilly's.


You people need to get your facts str8...MU never wanted to go and never said they had any interest in the BIG10...IT WAS THE F..KING GOVENOR WHO WAS SAYING ALL THAT CRAP...The school itself never had anything to do with it!!!

kepp
02-24-2012, 02:43 PM
You people need to get your facts str8...MU never wanted to go and never said they had any interest in the BIG10...IT WAS THE F..KING GOVENOR WHO WAS SAYING ALL THAT CRAP...The school itself never had anything to do with it!!!

Exactly. No one ever heard anything from the MU administration other than, "We are a proud member of the Big12 conference."

mnchiefsguy
02-24-2012, 02:44 PM
You do not agree that MU tried to leave for the B10+1, doing their crying first. Then they cried cause NU got the bid for the B10+1. Then MU wanted to play nice and hold the B12 together to only turn around and crap in the B12 face for the SEC.

I didn't see KU doing any of this. Now the cousins to the east of KC wants to kiss and make up ?

Sorry, enjoy your new found love, the UK hillbilly's, they go hand in foot like the Ozark hillbilly's.

The bolded part is not true. Mizzou was happy to be in the Big XII, and made many, many public statements stating such. Everything was settled, and a vote to stay together was taken. The VERY NEXT DAY TEXAS AND OU publicly made statements about leaving the Big XII for the PAC. That was the straw that broke the camels back as it were, and Mizzou at that points knew it needed to find a stable conference home. Mizzou got crapped on by Texas and OU publicly creating instability, so Mizzou jumped off the sinking ship.

KILLER_CLOWN
02-24-2012, 02:45 PM
The feelers were out there, we know better.

Simplicity
02-24-2012, 02:49 PM
http://thegazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/7299860-LAS-IOWA-VS-WISCONSIN-MBB-02_23_2012-22.29.38.jpg

12 straight threes from the Indiana game to the Wisconsin game... 31 pts vs Indiana.. 33 pts vs Wisconsin... 12 straight threes... I PRESENT TO YOU, MATT GATENS!!!

Oh KU/MU? Oh... Muck Fizzou.

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 02:50 PM
You people need to get your facts str8...MU never wanted to go and never said they had any interest in the BIG10...IT WAS THE F..KING GOVENOR WHO WAS SAYING ALL THAT CRAP...The school itself never had anything to do with it!!!


Proof ? Rumors swirled that Alden wanted it badly but would not come out and say it. So the Governor was spilling the beans. So you are telling me that Alden and the curators would not accepted an offer if it was MU instead of NU ?

You can say this ?

Answer this, why act like keeping the B12 together after NU & CU left was a top priority for MU once aTm announced they were leaving the B12 for the SEC. Only to have them bail out and having Brady Deaton act like he has the best interest for the B12, lying through his teeth!

Quality people right there. High quality, what good was MU's word when it told the B12 it was in the best interest for MU to stay together with the remaining B12 members ? Right after a new TV contract was given to assure the teams , schools more money!

It wasn't, it was all lies.

Mr. Plow
02-24-2012, 02:55 PM
Let's see if we can get this going in a different direction...

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s320x320/421104_357327517621566_100000329628713_1186518_1146908893_n.jpg

kepp
02-24-2012, 02:59 PM
Let's see if we can get this going in a different direction...

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s320x320/421104_357327517621566_100000329628713_1186518_1146908893_n.jpg

OK, I'll laugh at that one LMAO

kepp
02-24-2012, 03:01 PM
Proof ? Rumors swirled that Alden wanted it badly but would not come out and say it. So the Governor was spilling the beans. So you are telling me that Alden and the curators would not accepted an offer if it was MU instead of NU ?

You can say this ?

Answer this, why act like keeping the B12 together after NU & CU left was a top priority for MU once aTm announced they were leaving the B12 for the SEC. Only to have them bail out and having Brady Deaton act like he has the best interest for the B12, lying through his teeth!

Quality people right there. High quality, what good was MU's word when it told the B12 it was in the best interest for MU to stay together with the remaining B12 members ? Right after a new TV contract was given to assure the teams , schools more money!

It wasn't, it was all lies.

So twitter/internet rumors are your proof? If those things all held up ku would have Harbaugh coaching football.

Chocolate Hog
02-24-2012, 03:01 PM
Thank goodness we'll never have to hear about this dumbass "rivalry" after tomorrow.

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 03:07 PM
The bolded part is not true. Mizzou was happy to be in the Big XII, and made many, many public statements stating such. Everything was settled, and a vote to stay together was taken. The VERY NEXT DAY TEXAS AND OU publicly made statements about leaving the Big XII for the PAC. That was the straw that broke the camels back as it were, and Mizzou at that points knew it needed to find a stable conference home. Mizzou got crapped on by Texas and OU publicly creating instability, so Mizzou jumped off the sinking ship.

Screw that, Brady knew OU and Tx was staying and MU went ahead and did it.

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 03:10 PM
So twitter/internet rumors are your proof? If those things all held up ku would have Harbaugh coaching football.

Like I said, Brady knew the truth and MU left, a chance to get away from Tx & OU.

MU's word was not worth the effort they gave to coin the phrase, we are all in to keeping the B12 together.

First chance MU gets to jump ship, they leave. Great, enjoy the SEC. See ya!

mnchiefsguy
02-24-2012, 03:11 PM
Screw that, Brady knew OU and Tx was staying and MU went ahead and did it.

And where is your proof? That statement is not true and you know it. You are starting to sound like Wickedson.

On one hand, we have PUBLIC statements from Texas and OU, along with an interview KK did with Gary Pinkel, in which he cited that as the last straw...and on the other hand we have Roy saying Screw, that, Brady knew. Hmmmm....I think I will take Gary Pinkel's word over that, so unless you have some proof to present, you are full of it.

mnchiefsguy
02-24-2012, 03:13 PM
Like I said, Brady knew the truth and MU left, a chance to get away from Tx & OU.

MU's word was not worth the effort they gave to coin the phrase, we are all in to keeping the B12 together.

First chance MU gets to jump ship, they leave. Great, enjoy the SEC. See ya!

Again, a baseless accusation..where is your proof that Brady knew what you think? Hell, where is your proof that Texas and OU are even committed to the Big XII long term, given their past record of wanting to go to the PAC?

Either cite some proof, or admit that your statement is not true.

Lzen
02-24-2012, 03:14 PM
Again, a baseless accusation..where is your proof that Brady knew what you think? Hell, where is your proof that Texas and OU are even committed to the Big XII long term, given their past record of wanting to go to the PAC?

Either cite some proof, or admit that your statement is not true.

You know MU fans would never do something like that. ROFL

Lzen
02-24-2012, 03:32 PM
LAWRENCE, Kan. • As personal as the Missouri-Kansas rivalry has become through its Civil War roots and century-plus of athletics clashes, Kansas' rationale for dousing MU's wish to extend it after Missouri deserts the Big 12 isn't personal at all.
"Like, Frank Haith. Hey, unbelievable job. He's a good guy. I've known Frank a long time. We're not buddies, but certainly I talk to him every chance we get," Kansas coach Bill Self said in his office Monday. "This isn't anything about Frank. And it's certainly not anything to do about Kim English or Michael Dixon or Phil Pressey or Ricardo Ratliffe. Or Marcus Denmon.
"Hey, those guys have our respect. And to be honest with you, they seem to me like they're really good kids. ...
"But their administration, with the support of whoever, made the decision. And they knew when they made the decision that this was going to be something that could affect the future of the relationship."
Never mind, then, that Self values MU-Kansas and considered this season's first game between them Feb. 4 in Columbia 'special" even though Kansas lost 74-71. And never mind that Self has no quibble with the decision itself.
"Everybody deserves the right to do what is best for them. Everybody deserves that," Self said. "So if Missouri makes a decision that's best for them, hey, I don't have one problem with them making that decision that's best for the University of Missouri. Zero.
"But it does change the way it was. Bottom line, it changes the way it was."
Because Kansas considers the context and basis of the rivalry fundamentally changed, the school's bottom line means that the series will die after the third-ranked Tigers' game Saturday at No. 4 Kansas, the 267th between them in men's basketball.
Among schools in the six major conferences, only Kansas and Kansas State have been playing each other as often — since 1907.
Mizzou and Kansas could meet again in the Big 12 tournament, of course, as well as in the NCAA Tournament. And Self won't use the word "never" about what's to come.
But Kansas won't schedule Mizzou in the foreseeable future, a decision it casts as a practical response to MU's move to the Southeastern Conference.
"They're moving forward. That's their future. Their future is not looking back. Or hanging on to something that was," Self said. "Their future is going forward. And you know what? So is ours.
"It's nothing negative. It's just business."
Kansas' prime business, athletics director Sheahon Zenger said, has to be to thrust its energies into preserving and enhancing the Big 12 after "actions by some schools ... endangered" the league.
"Kansas just needs some time to breathe," Zenger said.
As for the future?
"I would tell you right now just to take a step back and enjoy it for what it is in the moment," Zenger said. "History is made one chapter at a time, and this is one chapter. I'm very careful not to speak for those who went before us or those who will follow us. But we're living out our chapter as we speak."
Self has heard the arguments for playing on, particularly those framed in terms of what fans might want.
"People can get hung up on, 'Well, don't the fans deserve this or that?' You know what? Whose fans?" he said. "I haven't had one KU person, not one, send me an email or a letter or tell me we should play Missouri. Not one. And I've gotten numerous ones that said we should not."
While Self said he appreciated nice letters from Mizzou fans saying they hoped he'd reconsider, he added, "So I'm going to make a decision to try to make Mizzou fans happy? I mean, I'm not doing that. ... I don't see any reason to play anybody to help them. I think the reason you play somebody is to help us."
One reason he's resistant is because no scenario to play seems appropriate.
"We're going to go home-and-home every other year? We're going to play in Kansas City?" he said. "That ain't the same as it has been. It's not the same."
As the former coach at Illinois, Self is familiar with the possibilities of a neutral-court series with MU. He's heard Mizzou's points about other nonconference rivalries flourishing, such as Louisville-Kentucky and Clemson-South Carolina.
"To me, we've got to beat them to win the league. That game carries league significance. That's what makes that game so important. Playing them once a year? I personally don't feel the significance of it as much," he said. "The other thing is, Kentucky plays Louisville every year. Well, they've always played them every year (out of league). That's all they know.
"So if Wake Forest leaves the ACC, are (North) Carolina and Duke going to feel obligated to still play them? ... Texas and (Texas) A&M, I don't think they're going to play each other. And they're even in the same state.
"Even though we're huge rivals, we're only 2 1/2 hours apart, I mean, it's not like our state is divided. Our state is pro-KU, their state is pro-MU."
He added, "We're starting from scratch now."
But first ending with a bang, regardless of whether Kansas loses to MU at Allen Fieldhouse for the first time since 1999.
"Hey, (105) years or one year, we've had our fair share of success against Missouri," Self said, smiling.
Kansas leads the series 171-95, but this one may well be the most meaningful of all considering the finality and the teams being 1-2 in the Big 12 race.
"I would anticipate an atmosphere that would be second to none as far as Allen Fieldhouse's atmospheres over the past ... at least since I've been here," Self said. "But our players aren't going to think about this is the last time we're playing Missouri. ... It's 'Hey, we've got to beat Missouri — the 2012 version.'"
The last version that definitely will appear here.
"Hey, they're going on to their bigger and better things, but when they chose to do that, that means they're leaving behind Kansas," Self said. "And K-State. And Iowa State, or whoever else. I guarantee you they don't feel any different than I do."
Not that it's personal. At least not any more. Just one business responding to another.
"I would think Missouri should put all of (its) efforts into marketing their new rivals," he said. "I mean, seriously: I would think that Missouri's marketing plan would be to find a way to market their new rivals — as opposed to trying to hang on to an old one."

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/ku-s-self-ready-to-move-on-without-mizzou/article_255fec53-d945-5a8c-9903-b10c7736a79b.html#ixzz1nLDmm48R

Ari Chi3fs
02-24-2012, 03:44 PM
Adding my mojo to this thread. Rock Chalk.

Pasta Giant Meatball
02-24-2012, 04:32 PM
This thread is exactly the reason this rivalry NEEDS to end. A single mention of either school in any context brings out the worst in both fanbases.

And on a personal note, MU fans can stop with the “KU killed the rivalry”. There is no choice – once they are no longer in the same conference, the rivalry is dead. Talk all you want to about Mizzou/Illinois, it may be an entertaining game for the people in STL, but I’m sure neither fanbase sees it as a heated rivalry.

I call BS on that one.

Nzoner
02-24-2012, 09:42 PM
I just got back from happy hour and feelin no pain and cannot absorb all this shit so all i got again is...

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 09:52 PM
I just got back from happy hour and feelin no pain and cannot absorb all this shit so all i got again is...

Naw, we never take you serious buddy! Go ahead and admit it, you are a closet fan disguised well.;) :KU:

|Zach|
02-24-2012, 09:54 PM
Like I said, Brady knew the truth and MU left, a chance to get away from Tx & OU.

MU's word was not worth the effort they gave to coin the phrase, we are all in to keeping the B12 together.

First chance MU gets to jump ship, they leave. Great, enjoy the SEC. See ya!

Roy talking about things he doesn't understand. This is truly a shocking development.

Nzoner
02-24-2012, 10:00 PM
Naw, we never take you serious buddy! Go ahead and admit it, you are a closet fan disguised well.;) :KU:

What the fock ever...I'm married to a focking KU fan and even she's nervous about going out with me tomorrow but i'll tell you like i told her,win or lose i'm going to be an asshole either way because i focking hate the hawks and those focking gay yellow blue and red colors.

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 10:03 PM
Roy talking about things he doesn't understand. This is truly a shocking development.

It would appear that fans from both side seem to believe what they want, so enjoy your flavor.

ROYC75
02-24-2012, 10:03 PM
What the fock ever...I'm married to a focking KU fan and even she's nervous about going out with me tomorrow but i'll tell you like i told her,win or lose i'm going to be an asshole either way because i focking hate the hawks and those focking gay yellow blue and red colors.

I bet she like to give it back too, doesn't she.:thumb:

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-24-2012, 10:07 PM
What the fock ever...I'm married to a focking KU fan and even she's nervous about going out with me tomorrow but i'll tell you like i told her,win or lose i'm going to be an asshole either way because i focking hate the hawks and those focking gay yellow blue and red colors.

Do you hate the Chiefs yellow and red colors too then? All they're missing is the blue.

ROYC75
02-25-2012, 07:57 AM
Game Day !

After today, It just isn't going feel right not having our little cousins to the east to kick around anymore on a regular basis. ;)

KILLER_CLOWN
02-25-2012, 09:35 AM
Keith Langford, KU guard, 2001-05


“Ultimately, I am disappointed, but at the same time there is a part of me that says good riddance,” wrote Maccabi Tel Aviv standout Langford, who went 8-2 vs. Missouri. “Early in my career I knew Missouri was our rival but I didn’t have a complete understanding why. You hear ‘Border War’ and assume that the meaning behind it all is the fact the Kansas and Missouri are neighboring states. I kept this understanding all in school spirit until a day in history class when I found out the true meaning of Kansas and Missouri despising one another. Learning about Bleeding Kansas, Missouri being a slave-advocating state and details of the Missouri compromise has a profound effect on my views of the rivalry.


“I changed from ‘Oh, I don’t like these Mizzou guys,’ to ‘How could they go to this school?’ I went from thinking that the Mizzou fans in the stands cheering against, attempting to spit on, and yelling racial slurs at us were just showing school spirit to ‘maybe this does have a deeper meaning.’ In turn it gave me a deep disdain for the entire build-up of the game and the fact that it was still called the Border War. Of course I understand that guys who enroll there probably are not aware and probably don’t care as long as they can get a degree and further their basketball careers, but I do believe that awareness of what you represent and ‘fight’ for are critical. I’m also saying that using hindsight. So I do bid the ‘Border War’ adieu but we all would be naïve to think that we have seen the last of it.



“Two games come to mind. The first one is my sophomore year in Columbia. I remember going in there so focused as a team. We blocked out everything. Media, fans, even girls on campus. Well maybe not the latter but needless to say we were ready. The play that stands out more than anything is me coming off a curl and passing it to Aaron Miles and from about 25 feet with the defense hanging all over him slings it in from his hip! That play and game (79-74 win) still gives me goose bumps! Mike Lee’s big offensive rebound and a kick out to Kirk for another bomb from downtown late in the game too. Damn I love that team. The best Mizzou game was shutting down the Hearnes Center my junior year (84-82 win). Back and forth game early, I made a couple threes, Arthur Johnson had it going too. I may have had my favorite KU dunk during my career that game — on Johnson I might add! I just remember Wayne (Simien) being huge down the stretch as he was most of that year. I remember the end as time was expiring and coach Self gave me the ball and told me to make a play. Drove right (yes right lol) double-team came and hit David Padgett for a five-foot baseline shot. Big shot for a freshman! DP I don’t know where you are now but damn that was a helluva shot bro! Great memories and great times... I can’t wait until Saturday!”

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2012/feb/25/end-border-war-words-former-ku-players/?mens_basketball

KILLER_CLOWN
02-25-2012, 09:39 AM
and from my favorite Jayhawk of alltime....

Milt Newton, KU forward, 1985-89

“The SEC is not in our region so it’s funny to think of MU playing in that conference,” said Newton, who went 5-4 versus the Tigers. “Let’s face it, the SEC has historically been a football conference, with a sprinkling of some basketball teams with Kentucky being the constant. We’re going to miss beating up on them on a regular basis.

“Am I sad? No, I don’t play anymore,” wrote Newton, Washington Wizards’ vice president of player personnel. “My best memory of the KU-MU rivalry is that after coach (Larry) Brown was left with no other choice after Archie (Marshall) went down with an ACL, Bill Pope our team manager didn’t have any playing eligibility left and neither did Chuck Newman, the equipment manger. So I paid coach Brown to assure he would play me (just kidding).

“My first home game as a starter was against Missouri. I proceeded to rip the Band-Aid off Derrick Chievous and gave him 21 points and five rebounds as we beat them, 78-74. They were ranked high that year if I recall. I also remember (fans yelling), ‘Sit down Norm! Sit down Norm!’

“In Columbia, I remember jumping over Mike Sandbothe and dunking on him. That shouldn’t have been a big deal because he couldn’t jump, but he would always try to play dirty. Also, the Antlers (MU student cheering section) saying things that were outside the lines of good sportsmanship,” Newton added.

kepp
02-25-2012, 09:41 AM
Keith Langford, KU guard, 2001-05


“Ultimately, I am disappointed, but at the same time there is a part of me that says good riddance,” wrote Maccabi Tel Aviv standout Langford, who went 8-2 vs. Missouri. “Early in my career I knew Missouri was our rival but I didn’t have a complete understanding why. You hear ‘Border War’ and assume that the meaning behind it all is the fact the Kansas and Missouri are neighboring states. I kept this understanding all in school spirit until a day in history class when I found out the true meaning of Kansas and Missouri despising one another. Learning about Bleeding Kansas, Missouri being a slave-advocating state and details of the Missouri compromise has a profound effect on my views of the rivalry.


“I changed from ‘Oh, I don’t like these Mizzou guys,’ to ‘How could they go to this school?’ I went from thinking that the Mizzou fans in the stands cheering against, attempting to spit on, and yelling racial slurs at us were just showing school spirit to ‘maybe this does have a deeper meaning.’ In turn it gave me a deep disdain for the entire build-up of the game and the fact that it was still called the Border War. Of course I understand that guys who enroll there probably are not aware and probably don’t care as long as they can get a degree and further their basketball careers, but I do believe that awareness of what you represent and ‘fight’ for are critical. I’m also saying that using hindsight. So I do bid the ‘Border War’ adieu but we all would be naïve to think that we have seen the last of it.



“Two games come to mind. The first one is my sophomore year in Columbia. I remember going in there so focused as a team. We blocked out everything. Media, fans, even girls on campus. Well maybe not the latter but needless to say we were ready. The play that stands out more than anything is me coming off a curl and passing it to Aaron Miles and from about 25 feet with the defense hanging all over him slings it in from his hip! That play and game (79-74 win) still gives me goose bumps! Mike Lee’s big offensive rebound and a kick out to Kirk for another bomb from downtown late in the game too. Damn I love that team. The best Mizzou game was shutting down the Hearnes Center my junior year (84-82 win). Back and forth game early, I made a couple threes, Arthur Johnson had it going too. I may have had my favorite KU dunk during my career that game — on Johnson I might add! I just remember Wayne (Simien) being huge down the stretch as he was most of that year. I remember the end as time was expiring and coach Self gave me the ball and told me to make a play. Drove right (yes right lol) double-team came and hit David Padgett for a five-foot baseline shot. Big shot for a freshman! DP I don’t know where you are now but damn that was a helluva shot bro! Great memories and great times... I can’t wait until Saturday!”

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2012/feb/25/end-border-war-words-former-ku-players/?mens_basketball
"And next week on, 'ku sports circle jerk', more exciting non facts!"
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KILLER_CLOWN
02-25-2012, 09:43 AM
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LMAO and ouch. :)

ThatRaceCardGuy
02-25-2012, 09:43 AM
MissouRA sucks, Quantrill swallows, and MU fan has the Aids.
Burn Columbia, hang the bushwhackers and long live the free state of Kansas!
Rock Chalk tell my casket drops!

kepp
02-25-2012, 09:45 AM
MissouRA sucks, Quantrill swallows, and MU fan has the Aids.
Burn Columbia, hang the bushwhackers and long live the free state of Kansas!
Rock Chalk tell my casket drops!

Mr. Fambrough? I think your casket has already dropped.
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ThatRaceCardGuy
02-25-2012, 09:57 AM
Mr. Fambrough? I think your casket has already dropped.
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Is that a death threat ? Oh no you didnt...
( Mods please ban this member , he has clearly threatened me ...because the internet is that serious and I take it that serious)

Chiefs Pantalones
02-25-2012, 11:02 AM
M-I-Z-Zero national titles

ThatRaceCardGuy
02-25-2012, 11:05 AM
M-I-Z-Zero national titles

Quoted for truth!

eazyb81
02-25-2012, 11:11 AM
I'm really worried for kansas tonight. Basketball is literally the only sport they can beat Mizzou at, and they've already lost once this year. Cant imagine the humility they would have from losing at home. Good luck fellas, I'm pulling for you.

ThatRaceCardGuy
02-25-2012, 11:21 AM
I'm really worried for kansas tonight. Basketball is literally the only sport they can beat Mizzou at, and they've already lost once this year. Cant imagine the humility they would have from losing at home. Good luck fellas, I'm pulling for you.

You have zero titles..you have no final fours..you have no BCS bowl wins. You have nothing at all to be proud of except beating a basketball school in football. When was the last time MU won something meaningful ? They don't hang banners for regular season wins Slaver! .

mnchiefsguy
02-25-2012, 11:33 AM
You have zero titles..you have no final fours..you have no BCS bowl wins. You have nothing at all to be proud of except beating a basketball school in football. When was the last time MU won something meaningful ? They don't hang banners for regular season wins Slaver! .

Such an original post, although the extra spacing around your punctuation was completely unnecessary. Nice try though, I am sure that used up what little brain power you have.

And here I thought the regular season title meant something to you KU fans....you guys have been beating your chest about it for a few months now.

Bambi
02-25-2012, 11:35 AM
Didn't the KU women beat the shit out of the MU women on their own court a couple weeks ago?

I could be wrong but who knows?

ThatRaceCardGuy
02-25-2012, 11:35 AM
Such an original post, although the extra spacing around your punctuation was completely unnecessary. Nice try though, I am sure that used up what little brain power you have.

And here I thought the regular season title meant something to you KU fans....you guys have been beating your chest about it for a few months now.

Hey..its my stalker. How are you doing sir ? Did you see what I had for breakfast this morning..looked good didn't it? I would tell where I`m watching the game at here in Kansas City, but I dont have too . When you show up let me know, I`ll send you over a beer. See you..or I should say , YOU will see me later . :thumb:

Chiefs Pantalones
02-25-2012, 11:37 AM
Such an original post, although the extra spacing around your punctuation was completely unnecessary. Nice try though, I am sure that used up what little brain power you have.

And here I thought the regular season title meant something to you KU fans....you guys have been beating your chest about it for a few months now.

Original post? That's the only argument that counts. It begins and ends with championships. Win a title then you'll get respect. Until then, your school is shit.

ThatRaceCardGuy
02-25-2012, 11:40 AM
Original post? That's the only argument that counts. It begins and ends with championships. Win a title then you'll get respect. Until then, your school is shit.

Don't waist your time with mchiefsguy. The guy has issues. I think he might secretly be in love with me, or pissed because I have "guy" in my name like he does , and he takes offense to it ? He follows me around CP and neg reps everything I post. I don't mind the neg rep..its the following me around CP that creeps me out.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-25-2012, 11:40 AM
I'm really worried for kansas tonight. Basketball is literally the only sport they can beat Mizzou at, and they've already lost once this year. Cant imagine the humility they would have from losing at home. Good luck fellas, I'm pulling for you.

Yeah good luck to us if we don't win. KU fans will be wiping their years with our NC banners. Glad to end the "rivalry" today. 171-95 isn't a rivalry. It's I'm ****ing your wife and you can't do shit about it so I'll move on because I feel sorry for you.

ThatRaceCardGuy
02-25-2012, 11:46 AM
Yeah good luck to us if we don't win. KU fans will be wiping their years with our NC banners. Glad to end the "rivalry" today. 171-95 isn't a rivalry. It's I'm ****ing your wife and you can't do shit about it so I'll move on because I feel sorry for you.

QFT..

Whats worse ? A school being a blue blood school in one sport (KU), winning titles, and making final fours ..and yet being mediocre in football , but still having a BCO bowl win...
..or being MU, no titles in any sport , and talking shit on KU for being a "one sport school" , and at the same time bragging about beating KU a "one sport school" ...in the same "one sport" MU says KU "sucks" at ?...how pathetic is that ?

eazyb81
02-25-2012, 11:55 AM
You have zero titles..you have no final fours..you have no BCS bowl wins. You have nothing at all to be proud of except beating a basketball school in football. When was the last time MU won something meaningful ? They don't hang banners for regular season wins Slaver! .

Mizzou has both national titles and Orange Bowl wins. We also have many more bowl wins in general. It's funny how ku fans like to ignore football history before Mangino yet brag about basketball wins that happened before anyone on this board was even born.

It would be absolutely hilarious if ku was swept by Mizzou in the only sport you are even good at.

eazyb81
02-25-2012, 11:57 AM
Yeah good luck to us if we don't win. KU fans will be wiping their years with our NC banners. Glad to end the "rivalry" today. 171-95 isn't a rivalry. It's I'm ****ing your wife and you can't do shit about it so I'll move on because I feel sorry for you.

Yes you are better at basketball, and we are better at everything else.

Hope you guys win today to salvage some pride. Getting swept in your only sport before we walk out the door to the SEC could cause a mass suicide watch for your state. You truly have nothing else.

qabbaan
02-25-2012, 11:58 AM
Mizzou has both national titles and Orange Bowl wins. We also have many more bowl wins in general. It's funny how ku fans like to ignore football history before Mangino yet brag about basketball wins that happened before anyone on this board was even born.

It would be absolutely hilarious if ku was swept by Mizzou in the only sport you are even good at.

Or before there was any kind of a postseason in college basketball.

No matter what happens tonight, getting to move to the SEC is the biggest win for either school in a long long time.

Wish you all luck after OU and UT split

ThatRaceCardGuy
02-25-2012, 12:04 PM
Mizzou has both national titles and Orange Bowl wins. We also have many more bowl wins in general. It's funny how ku fans like to ignore football history before Mangino yet brag about basketball wins that happened before anyone on this board was even born.

It would be absolutely hilarious if ku was swept by Mizzou in the only sport you are even good at.

When you get back in touch with reality you let us know....okay.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-25-2012, 12:06 PM
Mizzou has both national titles and Orange Bowl wins. We also have many more bowl wins in general. It's funny how ku fans like to ignore football history before Mangino yet brag about basketball wins that happened before anyone on this board was even born.

It would be absolutely hilarious if ku was swept by Mizzou in the only sport you are even good at.

Congrats on your liberty bowl success and your men's track and field title and baseball title. Sexy.

Look, unlike most KU fans, I have nothing against MU, it's hard to hate a school that you beat a good percentage of the time. Our basketball success outweighs anything you've ever done in your other sports you choose to compete in. Big deal. I think it's best that you've moved on to the SEC and start over there and perhaps get your programs off to a consistent start and have new, more true rivals.

Pasta Giant Meatball
02-25-2012, 12:10 PM
Original post? That's the only argument that counts. It begins and ends with championships. Win a title then you'll get respect. Until then, your school is shit.

You guys claim "championships" for games that included peach baskets for goals.

ThatRaceCardGuy
02-25-2012, 12:12 PM
You guys claim "championships" for games that included peach baskets for goals.

Okay , so I guess 3 is still better then 0.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-25-2012, 12:17 PM
You guys claim "championships" for games that included peach baskets for goals.

5 national titles. Naismith says you're welcome by the way.

Congrats on your claim to fame: Brad Pitt and Cheryl Crow graduated from MU.

Pasta Giant Meatball
02-25-2012, 12:18 PM
Okay , so I guess 3 is still better then 0.

Crapshoot!!!

Pasta Giant Meatball
02-25-2012, 12:20 PM
5 national titles. Naismith says you're welcome by the way.

Congrats on your claim to fame: Brad Pitt and Cheryl Crow graduated from MU.

Helms Basketball Champions ROFL Congrats on celebrating from great grandaddy's nutsack.

Ari Chi3fs
02-25-2012, 12:20 PM
Mizzou is gonna have a hard time with their identity without having KU to hate and to play each year. Heh. I find that hilarious. Fuck MU. You left. Go fuck yourself.

In fact, ZERO KU fans have written to Bill Self asking them to continue playing MU... and has received many from MU fans asking to continue to the "rivalry" 172-95 isn't a rivalry folks. It's a century old ass whooping.

Enjoy your travels to the SEC. Good riddance.

ThatRaceCardGuy
02-25-2012, 12:22 PM
Mizzou is gonna have a hard time with their identity without having KU to hate and to play each year. Heh. I find that hilarious. **** MU. You left. Go **** yourself.

In fact, ZERO KU fans have written to Bill Self asking them to continue playing MU... and has received many from MU fans asking to continue to the "rivalry" 172-95 isn't a rivalry folks. It's a century old ass whooping.

Enjoy your travels to the SEC. Good riddance.

Truth!!!

mnchiefsguy
02-25-2012, 12:24 PM
Mizzou is gonna have a hard time with their identity without having KU to hate and to play each year. Heh. I find that hilarious. Fuck MU. You left. Go fuck yourself.

In fact, ZERO KU fans have written to Bill Self asking them to continue playing MU... and has received many from MU fans asking to continue to the "rivalry" 172-95 isn't a rivalry folks. It's a century old ass whooping.

Enjoy your travels to the SEC. Good riddance.

Mizzou has no problems with its identity whatsoever. KU, however, can't shut up about how little they care. If KU truly did not care, they would have shut up a long time ago.