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ChiefsandO'sfan
02-25-2012, 04:00 PM
Evan Silva‏@evansilvaReply

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports #Chiefs will franchise tag Dwayne Bowe if no long-term deal is struck before March 5: http://bit.ly/xkI0cJ


ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that the Chiefs plan to use the franchise tag on free agent Dwayne Bowe.
This is assuming the sides can't reach a long-term deal, which they almost certainly won't before the March 5 franchise deadline. The wideout tag is worth $9.5 million, and Bowe would cost at least $11 million a year to lock up. One GM told Schefter that he anticipates "as many as" 25 franchise tags being used this offseason, largely because the salary numbers are down across the board.

Bewbies
02-25-2012, 04:00 PM
Duh.

Guru
02-25-2012, 04:01 PM
this is news?

Rudy lost the toss
02-25-2012, 04:02 PM
yeah but will Hudson start?

whoman69
02-25-2012, 04:08 PM
yeah but will Hudson start?

We will have competition for all positions.

-King-
02-25-2012, 04:10 PM
Ron Edwards to the Panthers!

BigMeatballDave
02-25-2012, 04:22 PM
Hey Laz, this is why Bowe has not been Signed.

BoneKrusher
02-25-2012, 04:24 PM
We will have competition for all positions.

and i might add, the Chiefs need competition at the GM position. :thumb:

Guru
02-25-2012, 04:25 PM
and i might add, the Chiefs need competition at the GM position. :thumb:

ROFL

Inmem58
02-25-2012, 04:27 PM
Of course. Same goes with every player.

milkman
02-25-2012, 04:34 PM
I really don't understand the problem.

If the reports are true, that Bowe wants Santonio Holmes money, then get it the fuck done.

What the fuck is the fucking holdup?

Mr. Laz
02-25-2012, 04:34 PM
Hey Laz, this is why Bowe has not been Signed.
no, this is the result if Bowe doesn't get signed.

jd1020
02-25-2012, 04:35 PM
I really don't understand the problem.

If the reports are true, that Bowe wants Santonio Holmes money, then get it the **** done.

What the **** is the ****ing holdup?

That reports arent true?

-King-
02-25-2012, 04:36 PM
I really don't understand the problem.

If the reports are true, that Bowe wants Santonio Holmes money, then get it the fuck done.

What the fuck is the fucking holdup?

That Bowe doesn't want Santonio Holmes money.

jd1020
02-25-2012, 04:38 PM
IIRC it wasn't even a report that Bowe wanted Holmes money. It was all speculation.

BigMeatballDave
02-25-2012, 04:41 PM
no, this is the result if Bowe doesn't get signed.

Well, no fucking shit.

He will sign a new contract or be tagged.

salame
02-25-2012, 04:42 PM
Larry Fitzgerald money

or he just wants to leave

Mr. Laz
02-25-2012, 04:45 PM
Well, no ****ing shit.

He will sign a new contract or be tagged.
what's sad is that you seem to think that this information means your are right about something?

The Chiefs have 2 choices ... tag Bowe or tag Carr

my point was that with all the WR's available in free agency that it might be smarter to tag Carr.

we'll see ...

jd1020
02-25-2012, 04:49 PM
my point was that with all the WR's available in free agency that it might be smarter to tag Carr.

It's smarter to tag the guy who's spot is already filled on the roster and dedicate 24M to the CB position over the guy who's spot you'd have to replace immediately?

Mr. Laz
02-25-2012, 05:02 PM
It's smarter to tag the guy who's spot is already filled on the roster and dedicate 24M to the CB position over the guy who's spot you'd have to replace immediately?
we have enough money to sign anyone we want, it's about value in trade.

who had more value in a tag/trade, Bowe in a bumper WR crop or Carr who might be the best available at his position?

milkman
02-25-2012, 05:06 PM
we have enough money to sign anyone we want, it's about value in trade.

who had more value in a tag/trade, Bowe in a bumper WR crop or Carr who might be the best available at his position?

So you can let Bowe walk, tag Carr and trade him, then overpay for another receiver on the market to replace Bowe.

That's a good plan.

Hey, I know, let's trade Carr for a receiver!

whoman69
02-25-2012, 05:09 PM
So you can let Bowe walk, tag Carr and trade him, then overpay for another receiver on the market to replace Bowe.

That's a good plan.

Hey, I know, let's trade Carr for a receiver!

Don't want the roster to be overburdened by talent.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-25-2012, 05:11 PM
we have enough money to sign anyone we want, it's about value in trade.

who had more value in a tag/trade, Bowe in a bumper WR crop or Carr who might be the best available at his position?

I don't know why you think they have all this money they got 30m teams need to save 5m for draft picks.


1.Takes them to 25m Tag bowe 9.5
2.Takes them to 15.5m Must people want a NT atleast 6 to 7m
3.Takes them to 8.5m gotta fix the Oline thats the rest of the cap.

BoneKrusher
02-25-2012, 05:13 PM
I don't know why you think they have all this money they got 30m teams need to save 5m for draft picks.


1.Takes them to 25m Tag bowe 9.5
2.Takes them to 15.5m Must people want a NT atleast 6 to 7m
3.Takes them to 8.5m gotta fix the Oline thats the rest of the cap.

so, wheres the money for Manning or Orton?

O.city
02-25-2012, 05:14 PM
Use that 8.5 mil instead of getting oline. Get that in the draft.

BossChief
02-25-2012, 05:15 PM
I'd just rather tag Bowe and then tag him again next year (as I understand it, you can tag a player twice at the normal FT rate, then a third time at a higher rate) at that point, sign him to a reasonable deal.

He really no leverage in this.

ChiefsandO'sfan
02-25-2012, 05:16 PM
I'd just rather tag Bowe and then tag him again next year (as I understand it, you can tag a player twice at the normal FT rate, then a third time at a higher rate) at that point, sign him to a reasonable deal.

He really no leverage in this.

New cba tag them as many times as you want too.But each time they use it bowe gets a raise of 20%.

Mr. Flopnuts
02-25-2012, 05:34 PM
and i might add, the Chiefs need competition at the GM position. :thumb:

ROFL Post of the month.

BossChief
02-25-2012, 05:35 PM
Iirc the first two are at the normal rate without the increase.

Mr. Flopnuts
02-25-2012, 05:37 PM
I don't know why you think they have all this money they got 30m teams need to save 5m for draft picks.


1.Takes them to 25m Tag bowe 9.5
2.Takes them to 15.5m Must people want a NT atleast 6 to 7m
3.Takes them to 8.5m gotta fix the Oline thats the rest of the cap.

So we went from 60 million, to 48 million, to 30 million. Are we going to be over the cap next weekend?

stonedstooge
02-25-2012, 05:37 PM
It would be nice to see Bowe with a real quarterback for a season before signing him long term

hometeam
02-25-2012, 05:37 PM
Not a surprise. Tell me again if we are tagging Bowe why we didnt get Carr done?

jd1020
02-25-2012, 05:39 PM
So we went from 60 million, to 48 million, to 30 million. Are we going to be over the cap next weekend?

The 63M was a figure thrown out by someone just adding base salaries.

37M was a figure thrown out by someone who did homework and accounted for everything. Later this number was confirmed by Pioli.

We just signed Routt to just under 7M.

Mr. Flopnuts
02-25-2012, 05:42 PM
The 63M was a figure thrown out by someone just adding base salaries.

37M was a figure thrown out by someone who did homework and accounted for everything. Later this number was confirmed by Pioli.

We just signed Routt to just under 7M.

I thought it was 47. Well, bye Brandon. Bye Peyton.

Count Zarth
02-25-2012, 05:43 PM
Not a surprise. Tell me again if we are tagging Bowe why we didnt get Carr done?

It's the Patriot Way.

Don't invest too much money in your secondary.

jd1020
02-25-2012, 05:44 PM
Use that 8.5 mil instead of getting oline. Get that in the draft.

Dont forget that we still have 18 FA we need to sign. Not all are going to get signed but the majority will.

Messier
02-25-2012, 05:46 PM
I thought it was 47. Well, bye Brandon. Bye Peyton.

The Chiefs still are near the top in cap space. ESPN was over by around $20 mil for every team. Thy didn't add in bonuses and things like that.

Okie_Apparition
02-25-2012, 05:49 PM
On with The Show this is it

stonedstooge
02-25-2012, 05:50 PM
I don't think any cap space numbers being thrown around have been verified one way or the other yet.

BigMeatballDave
02-25-2012, 05:54 PM
It's the Patriot Way.

Don't invest too much money in your secondary.

$100m is a A LOT to invest in 2 CBs.

I hate to see Carr go, too.

Welcome to the business side of the NFL.

jd1020
02-25-2012, 05:56 PM
I don't think any cap space numbers being thrown around have been verified one way or the other yet.

Pioli confirmed the 37M cap on 810.

O.city
02-25-2012, 05:57 PM
It's looking like the only way we can sign Manning is if he takes less money.

Von Dumbass
02-25-2012, 06:08 PM
I really don't understand the problem.

If the reports are true, that Bowe wants Santonio Holmes money, then get it the **** done.

What the **** is the ****ing holdup?

Source says if Dwayne Bowe gets big money he will have bad season in 2012 #chiefs - says he's too lazy for huge deal

https://twitter.com/#!/cecillammey/status/173286292346503169

BossChief
02-25-2012, 06:10 PM
I'm pretty sure that 37 number is after the escalators, performance bonuses and everything else was calculated in....and after Routt was signed.

Also remember that if Peyton is signed, we can save about 5 million more by jettisoning Cassel.

According to a report a day or 2 ago, the financials of a deal for Peyton would work with what we have.

I'd be fine with tag/trade Bowe and signing Wayne to replace him and signing Saturday to plat center...if that's what it would take.

Peyton made literally nonbodies into good receivers in Indy and a trio of Baldwin, breaston and Wayne would be damn good...especially if we can get a premium pick for Bowe.

Peyton makes us a contender immediately in that scenario.

BossChief
02-25-2012, 06:14 PM
I'd do whatever it took to get Peyton Manning.

20 years is long enough.

Mr. Flopnuts
02-25-2012, 06:30 PM
How can you not roll the dice if the guy's name is Peyton Manning? Christ.

BigMeatballDave
02-25-2012, 06:45 PM
How can you not roll the dice if the guy's name is Peyton Manning? Christ.

This.

As long as he is healthy.

Bowser
02-25-2012, 06:50 PM
Scott needs to read CP more. We're supposed to sign Bowe and franchise Carr. Moran.

BoneKrusher
02-25-2012, 07:13 PM
Scott needs to read CP more.

Yep, we could help him get with the Program.

bowener
02-25-2012, 08:47 PM
and i might add, the Chiefs need competition at the GM position. :thumb:

Billboard material?

Extra Point
02-25-2012, 08:52 PM
I really don't understand the problem.

If the reports are true, that Bowe wants Santonio Holmes money, then get it the **** done.

What the **** is the ****ing holdup?

Someone's afraid Bowe would drop the pen, when asked to sign the contract?:shrug:

Santonio Holmes isn't worth Santonio Holmes money!

pr_capone
02-25-2012, 08:52 PM
I really don't understand the problem.

If the reports are true, that Bowe wants Santonio Holmes money, then get it the **** done.

What the **** is the ****ing holdup?

Contract is all set. Problem is that Pioli threw the pen to Bowe and he dropped it.










BA DUM TISH

/DAMN YOU EXTRA POINT

salame
02-26-2012, 11:16 PM
Someone's afraid Bowe would drop the pen, when asked to sign the contract?:shrug:

Santonio Holmes isn't worth Santonio Holmes money!

he could only catch it if it were an improbable grab
a standard toss and it would be bobbled