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Pestilence
02-29-2012, 02:46 PM
First Round
1 Indianapolis Colts (Bo's Pelini) - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2 St. Louis Rams (Starbucks Fan) - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State
3 Minnesota Vikings (Marco Polo) - Matt Kalil, OT, Southern California
4 Cleveland Browns (DaKCManAP) - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Sfheic) - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6 Washington Redskins (Archie Bunker) - Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
7 Jacksonville Jaguars (Direckshun) - Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
8 Miami Dolphins (BossChief) - Courtney Upshaw, OLB/DE, Alabama
9 Carolina Panthers (Dj's left nut) - Quinton Couples, DE, North Carolina
10 Buffalo Bills (htismaqe) - Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
11 Kansas City Chiefs (Pestilence) - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
12 Seattle Seahawks (SNR) - Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College
13 Arizona Cardinals (DeezNutz) - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
14 Dallas Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
15 Philadelphia Eagles (doomy3) - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State
16 New York Jets (Lono) - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
17 Cincinnati Bengals (f/OAK) (Sfheic) - Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
18 San Diego Chargers (doomy3) - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
19 Chicago Bears (DaKCManAP) - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
20 Tennessee Titans (Marco Polo) - Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia
21 Cincinnati Bengals (Sfheic) - Mark Barron, S, Alabama
22 Cleveland Browns (f/ATL) (DaKCManAP) - Nick Perry, DE/OLB, Southern California
23 Detroit Lions (Dj's left nut) - Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
24 Pittsburgh Steelers (Archie Bunker) - Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama
25 Denver Broncos (DeezNutz) - Devon Still, DT, Penn State
26 Houston Texans (Lono) - Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
27 New England Patriots (f/NO) (ChiefsCountry) - Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
28 Green Bay Packers (SNR) - Michael Brockers, DE, LSU
29 Baltimore Ravens (Bo's Pelini) - Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
30 San Francisco 49ers (Pestilence) - Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
31 New England Patriots (ChiefsCountry) - Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
32 New York Giants (htismaqe) - James Brown, OL, Troy

Second Round
33. Rams (Starbucks Fan) - Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina
34. Colts (Bo's Pelini) - Reuben Randle, WR, LSU
35. Vikings (Marco Polo) - Josh Robinson, CB, Central Florida
36. Buccaneers (Sfheic) - Stephen Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
37. Browns (DaKCManAP) - Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
38. Jaguars (Direckshun) - Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
39. Redskins (Archie Bunker) - Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
40. Panthers (DJs Left Nut) - Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson
41. Dolphins (BossChief) - Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
42. Bills (htismaqe) - Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska
43. Seahawks (SNR) - Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
44. Chiefs (Pestilence) - Kelechi Osemele, OT, Iowa State
45. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) - Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington
46. Eagles (doomy3) - Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
47. Jets (Lono) - Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame
48. Patriots (ChiefsCountry) - Vinny Curry, OLB/DE, Marshall
49. Chargers (doomy3) - Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford
50. Bears (DaKCManAP) - Dwayne Allan, TE, Clemson
51. Eagles (doomy3) - Markelle Martin, S, Oklahoma State
52. Titans (Marco Polo) - Kevin Zeitler, G, Wisconsin
53. Bengals (Sfeihc) - Lamar Miller, RB, Miami (Fl.)
54. Lions (djs left nut) - Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
55. Falcons (BossChief) - David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
56. Steelers (Archie Bunker) - Amini Silatolu, G, Midwestern State
57. Broncos (Deez Nutz) - Doug Martin, RB, Boise State
58. Texans (Lono) - Josh Chapman, DT, Alabama
59. Saints (Direckshun) - Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
60. Packers (SNR) - Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska
61. Ravens (Bos Pelini) - Shea McClellin, LB, Boise State
62. 49ers (Pestilence) - Jayron Hosley, CB/PR, Virginia Tech
63. Patriots (ChiefsCountry) Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
64. Giants (htismaqe) Ronnell Lewis, DE, Oklahoma

Third Round
65. Colts (Bos Pelini) Chris Polk, RB, Washington
66. Rams (Starbucks Fan) Ryan Miller, G, Colorado
67. Vikings (Marco Polo) Brandon Brooks, G, Miami (Ohio)
68. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State
69. Buccaneers (Stefic) Bobbie Massie, OT, Mississippi
70. Redskins (Archie Bunker) Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami (Fl)
71. Jaguars (Direckshun) Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa
72. Dolphins (Boss Chief) Nicholas Jean-Baptiste, DT/NT, Baylor
73. Bears (DaKCMan AP) Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse
74. Bills (htismaqe) Brian Quick, WR, Appalachain State
75. Chiefs (Pestilence) Philip Blake, OC, Baylor
76. Seahawks (SNR) - Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana-Lafayette
77. Eagles (doomy3) - Vontaze Burfict, ILB, Arizona State
78. Chargers (doomy3) - Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut
79. Bears (DaKCMan AP) - Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin
80. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) - Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California
81. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State
82. Titans (Marco Polo) Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah State
83. Bengals (Sfeihc) Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
84. Falcons (BossChief) Jack Baquette, DE Arkansas
85. Lions (DJs left nut) Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana
86. Steelers (Archie Bunker) LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
87. Broncos (Deez Nutz) Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
88. Texans (Lono) Jamell Flemming, CB, Oklahoma
89. Saints (Direckshun) Sean Spence, LB, Miami (Fl)
90. Packers (SNR) Bruce Irvin, OLB, West Virginia
91. Ravens (Bos Pelini) Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
92. 49ers (Pestilence) Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
93. Patriots (ChiefsCountry) Ben Jones, C, Georgia
94. Giants (htismaqe) Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple

Fourth Round
95. Rams (Starbucks Fan) Derek Wolfe, DE/DT, Cincinnati
96. Colts (Bo's Pelini) Michael Egnew, TE, Missouri
97. Vikings (Marco Polo) Marvin Jones, WR, California
98. Eagles (doomy3) Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State
99. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Brandon Washington, G, Miami
100. Jaguars (Direckshun) Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma State
101. Redskins (Archie Bunker) George Iloka, S, Boise State
102. Dolphins (Boss Chief) Andrew Darko, OT, Florida State
103. Panthers (DJ's Left Nut) Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn
104. Bills (htismaqe) Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
105. Seahawks (SNR) Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
106. Chiefs (Pestlience) Jonathan Massaquoi, OLB/DE, Troy
107. Jets (lono) Cam Johnson, LB, Virginia
108. Redskins (Archie Bunker) Matt McCants, OT, UAB
109. Chargers (doomy3) Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest
110. Bears (DaKCMan AP) Dwight Bentley, CB, Louisiana
111. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
112. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) Tank Carder, LB, TCU
113. Eagles (doomy3) Mychal Kendricks, LB, California
114. Titans (Marco Polo) Frank Alexander, DE, Oklahoma
115. Bengals (Sfeihc) Mike Martin, DT, Michigan.
116. Lions (DJ's Left Nut) Nigel Bradham, ILB, Florida State.
117. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State.
118. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina
119. Broncos (Deez Nutz) Emmanuel Acho, OLB, Texas
120. Texans (lono) Tony Bergstrom, G, Utah
121. Saints (Direckshun) Antonio Allen, S, South Carolina
122. Packers (SNR) Quentin Saulsberry, C, Mississippi State
123. Bills (htismaqe/Nightfyre) Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
124. 49ers (Pestlience) Lucas Nix, OG, Pittsburgh
125. Patriots (ChiefsCountry) Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
126. Giants (Nightfyre) DeQuan Menzie, DB, Alabama

Fifth Round
127. Colts (Bo's Pelini) Billy Wynn, DE/DT, Boise State
128. Broncos (Deez Nutz) Coryell Judie, CB, Texas A&M
129. Vikings (Marco Polo) AJ Jenkins, WR, Illinois
130. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Josh Kaddu, OLB, Oregon
131. Buccaneers (stefhic) Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati
132. Redskins (Archie Bunker) Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
133. Jaguars (Direckshun) Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
134. Panthers (DJ's Left Nut) Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
135. Bills (Nightfyre) Audie Cole, LB, North Carolina State
136. Dolphins (Boss Chief) T.Y. Hilton, WR, Florida International
137. Chiefs (Pestlience) Trenton Robinson, S, Michigan State
138. Bills (Nightfyre) David Molk, C, Michigan
139. Raiders (Starbuck's Fan) Ryan Steed, CB, Furman
140. Chargers (doomy3) Kyle Wilber, OLB, Wake Forest
141. Bears (DaKCMan AP) Tauren Poole, RB, Tennessee
142. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) William Vlachos, C, Alabama
143. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas
144. Eagles (doomy3) Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise State
145. Jets (lono) Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
146. Titans (Marco Polo) Garth Gerhart, C, Arizona State
147. Bengals (Sfeihc) Senio Kelemete, G, Washington
148. Falcons (Boss Chief) Shaun Prater, CB, Iowa
149. Lions (DJ's Left Nut) Adam Gettis, C, Iowa
150. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Hebron Fangupo, NT, BYU
151. Broncos (Deez Nutz) J.K. Schaffer, LB, Cincinnati
152. Texans (lono) Brandon Lindsey, LB, Pittsburgh
153. Saints (Direckshun) Demario Davis, LB, Arkansas State
154. Packers (SNR) Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State
155. Ravens (Bo's Pelini) Jeff Allen, OL, Illinois
156. 49ers (Pestlience) Trevor Guyton, DE, California
157. Bengals (Sfeihc) Janzen Jackson, S, McNeese State
158. Giants (Nightfyre) BJ Coleman, QB, Chattanooga

Sixth Round
159. Rams (Starbuck's Fan) Ronnie Hillman, RB, San Diego State
160. Eagles (doomy3) Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU
161. Redskins (Archie Bunker) Kheeston Randall, DE, Texas
162. Buccaneers (Sfheic) James-Michael Johnson, LB, Nevada
163. Vikings (Marco Polo) Blake Gideon, S, Texas
164. Jaguars (Direckshun) Austin Davis, QB, Southern Miss
165. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) Gerell Robinson, WR, Arizona State
166. Panthers (DJ's Left Nut) Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M
167. Saints (Direckshun) Winston Guy, S, Kentucky
168. Bills (Nightfyre) Ryan Lindley, QB, San Diego State
169. Seahawks (SNR) Terrance Ganaway, RB, Baylor
170. Chiefs (Pestlience) Asa Jackson, CB, Cal Poly
171. Chargers (doomy3) Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
172. Bears (DaKCMan AP) Jerry Franklin, LB, Arkansas
173. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) Jacquies Smith, LB, Missouri
174. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) Will Blackwell, G, LSU
175. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Chris Rainey, RB, Florida
176. Broncos (Deez Nutz) Kellen Moore, QB, Boise State
177. Raiders (Starbuck's Fan) Marc Tyler, RB, USC
178. Titans (Marco Polo) Tim Benford, WR, Tennessee Tech
179. Bengals (Sfheic) Danny Trevathan, LB, Kentucky
180. Falcons (BossChief) Bryan Anger, P, California
181. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas
182. Colts (Bo's Pelini) Cliff Harris, CB, Oregon
183. Texans (lono) Jack Crawford, DE, Penn State
184. Dolphins (BossChief) Delano Howell, S, Stanford
185. Packers (SNR) Markus Zusevics, OT, Iowa
186. Ravens (Bo's Pelini) Marcel Jones, OT, Nebraska
187. 49ers (Pestlience) Jerrell Young, S, South Florida
188. Eagles (doomy3) T.J. Graham, WR, North Carolina State
189. Giants (Nightfyre) Chris Owusu, WR, Stanford

Seventh Round
190. Colts (Bos Pelini) Terrell Manning, LB, North Carolina State
191. Rams (Starbucks Fan) Ben Bojicic, C, Bowling Green
192. Vikings (Marco Polo) Sean Richardson, S, Vanderbilt
193. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Tramain Thomas, S, Arkansas
194. Buccaneers (Sfheic) Donte Paige-Moss, DE, North Carolina
195. Redskins (Archie Bunker) Najee Goode, ILB, West Virginia
196. Colts (Bos Pelini) Adrien Robinson, TE, Cincinnati
197. Dolphins (BossChief) Neiko Thorpe, S, Auburn
198. Panthers (DJs Left Nut) Marcus Forston, DT, Miami (FL)
199. Bills (Nightfyre) Elvis Akpla, WR, Montana State
200. Chiefs (Pestlience) Akiem Hicks, NT, Regina
201. Lions (DJs Left Nut) Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami (FL)
202. Bears (DaKCMan AP) Jaye Howard, DT, Florida
203. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) Christian Thompson, DB, South Carolina State
204. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) James Hanna, TE, Oklahoma
205. Vikings (Marco Polo) Tahir Whitehead, LB, Temple
206. Packers (SNR) Chandler Harnish, QB, Northern Illinois
207. Seahawks (SNR) DaJohn Harris, DT, USC
208. Chargers (doomy3) Micah Pellerin, CB, Hampton
209. Titans (Marco Polo) Jordan Bernstine, S, Iowa
210. Jaguars (Direckshun) Evan Rodriguez, TE, Temple
211. Falcons (Boss Chief) Josh Oglesby, OT, Wisconsin
212. Lions (DJs Left Nut) Josh LeRibeus, G, SMU
213. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Dominique Hamilton, DE, Missouri
214. Jets (Lono) Mike Harris, CB, Florida State
215. Texans (Lono) Justin Bethel, S, Presbyterian
216. Saints (Direckshun) Kelcie McCray, S, Arkansas State
217. Packers (SNR) Jeremy Lane, CB, Northwestern State
218. Ravens (Bos Pelini) Case Keenum, QB, Houston
219. 49ers (Pestlience) Nick Provo, TE, Syracuse
220. Chiefs (Pestlience) Blake DeChristopher, OT, Virginia Tech
221. Giants (Nightfyre) Drake Dunsmore, TE, Northwestern
222. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Aaron Corp, QB, Richmond
223. Packers (SNR) Shawn Loiseau, LB, Merrimack
224. Jets (Lono) Adonis Thomas, RB, Toledo
225. Packers (SNR) Daryl Richardson, RB, Abilene Christian
226. Jets (Lono) Matt Veldman TE, North Dakota State
227. Browns (DaKCMan AP) DeAngelo Peterson, TE, LSU
228. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Chase Ford, TE, Miami
229. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Keith Tandy, CB, West Virginia
300. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Greg Zuerlein, K, Missouri Western
301. Falcons (BossChief) Carmen Messina, LB, New Mexico
302. Chargers (doomy3) Miles Burris, LB, San Diego State
303. Bills (Nightfyre) Randy Bullock, K, Texas A&M
304. Rams (Starbucks Fan) Shaun Powell, P, Flordia State
305. Colts (Bos Pelini) Ryan Davis, LB, Bethune-Cookman

Pestilence
02-29-2012, 02:47 PM
Everyone check to make sure that your name is next to your correct team.

Direckshun
02-29-2012, 09:51 PM
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SNR
02-29-2012, 09:55 PM
It's a shame this supposed Rams/Redskins isn't going to happen until draft day. It would make this thing far more accurate.

ChiefsCountry
02-29-2012, 10:46 PM
It's a shame this supposed Rams/Redskins isn't going to happen until draft day. It would make this thing far more accurate.

As long as Rams Fan takes Blackmon it will go pretty close to accurate Imo.
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Sfeihc
03-01-2012, 06:49 PM
**** is about to get real. :popcorn:

Rams Fan
03-01-2012, 09:47 PM
As long as Rams Fan takes Blackmon it will go pretty close to accurate Imo.
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Pretty much leaning that way.

Direckshun
03-01-2012, 10:56 PM
Let's see your big board, Pest.

Sfeihc
03-02-2012, 07:22 AM
Let's see your big board, Pest.

What you and Pest do in your free time is your own business.:thumb:

Direckshun
03-02-2012, 07:49 AM
What you and Pest do in your free time is your own business.:thumb:

I just want to know what tight ends he sees as must-have opportunities.







































































































































































































































































































































































































































































FOOTBALL HUMOR

Pestilence
03-02-2012, 10:39 AM
Let's see your big board, Pest.

That's your job not mine.

Pestilence
03-04-2012, 08:54 PM
Fuck....I'm going to be away from my computer the next two days. I'll be able to update on my lunch breaks.

Sfeihc
03-04-2012, 11:42 PM
Night before Christmas and not a draftubator was stiring......

ChiefsCountry
03-04-2012, 11:43 PM
****....I'm going to be away from my computer the next two days. I'll be able to update on my lunch breaks.

I'll be around. Should be a pretty slow week so I'll be in the office.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:03 AM
I think the Colts go for a WR who doesn't have elite speed.

Right, Pest? That sure warrants a #1 overall pick.

(Right off the bat -- picking fights.)

Sfeihc
03-05-2012, 07:42 AM
This year will be a bit different without Hamas, Floppy, OTW and yes even Mecca. However, the show must go on....

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 09:19 AM
Bo's Pelini is on the clock.

While we wait for him to select Luck, who should the Rams take?

I'd take Kalil over Blackmon. But the Rams desperately need receiver help, and that'd make three consecutive years they've taken a tackle.

Lono
03-05-2012, 09:20 AM
I'd take Blackmon for sure.

DaKCMan AP
03-05-2012, 09:23 AM
Blackmon. Saffold started at LT all last year. With a full offseason & camp he should remain there while they upgrade their awful WR position.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 09:25 AM
We need Rams Fan in here. I want to personally negotiate a trade on behalf of KC for that #2 overall pick.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 09:50 AM
Fuck it.

My early round big board.

1. QB Andrew Luck, Stanford
2. RB Trent Richardson, Alabama
3. CB Morris Claiborne, LSU
4. OG David DeCastro, Stanford
5. OT Matt Kalil, Southern California
6. QB Robert Griffin III, Baylor
7. DE/OLB Melvin Ingram, South Carolina
8. ILB Luke Kuechly, Boston College
9. WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
10. CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama
11. OT Riley Reiff, Iowa
12. CB Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama
13. OG/OT Cordy Glenn, Georgia
14. DE/OLB Nick Perry, Southern California
15. WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
16. OT Jonathan Martin, Stanford
17. DE/OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama
18. DT/DE Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State
19. DT Michael Brockers, LSU
20. C Peter Konz, Wisconsin
21. DE Quinton Coples, North Carolina
22. DT/DE Devon Still, Penn State
23. WR Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
24. OLB Zach Brown, North Carolina
25. QB Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M
26. OT Mike Adams, Ohio State
27. SS Mark Barron, Alabama
28. DT Jerel Worthy, Michigan State
29. DE Andre Branch, Clemson
30. ILB Dont'a Hightower, Alabama
31. DT Brandon Thompson, Clemson
32. DE/OLB Whitney Mercilus, Illinois
33. RB David Wilson, Virginia Tech
34. OG/OT Kelechi Osemele, Iowa State
35. WR Mohamed Sanu, Rutgers
36. TE Coby Fleener, Stanford
37. CB Alfonzo Dennard, Nebraska
38. NT Dontari Poe, Memphis
39. WR Rueben Randle, LSU
40. WR Kendall Wright, Baylor
41. TE Dwayne Allen, Clemson
42. CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina

SNR
03-05-2012, 09:58 AM
Bo's Pelini is on the clock.

While we wait for him to select Luck, who should the Rams take?

I'd take Kalil over Blackmon. But the Rams desperately need receiver help, and that'd make three consecutive years they've taken a tackle.I'm a big believer in finding other solutions for high frequency/low return draft spots. The Chiefs never did find themselves a truly dominant DT in the Vermeil era. Doesn't matter. Take the loss and move on. Yes, there are still holes, but you've at least still acquired first round talent for the position. Try to make it work for another year, or fix it in free agency.

The Lions desperately needed offensive line help this previous draft so they could keep Matt Stafford upright. What did they do? Draft a bunch of playmakers. And they never really spent any draft picks on the position recently apart from Cherilus.

I guess that bust Cherilus and their older Brandon Albert counterpart Jeff Backus actually weren't so bad after all.

SNR
03-05-2012, 10:06 AM
Also, that's with LeShoure being injured all year. That's a 2nd rounder that had no impact whatsoever.

Had the Lions drafted a tackle at that spot, would they have shored up the line much better, and might Stafford have avoided some hits? Possibly. But also consider this:

If I had three wheels, I would be a tricycle, would I not?

DJ's left nut
03-05-2012, 10:15 AM
Browns and Bucs, lemme know before you make your pick; I may be interested in moving up to 4 or 5 from 9.

SNR
03-05-2012, 10:22 AM
Wait, the same rules apply about not trading draft picks, yes?

Because here I've been planning on sitting on my ass with Seattle's #12, but they need a QB as badly as the Chiefs do.

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2012, 10:35 AM
Yeah no trades are allowed.
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DJ's left nut
03-05-2012, 11:12 AM
Damn. Well you !@#$ers need to stop talking about trading picks, then. You're confusing the nOOb.

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2012, 12:00 PM
Well its time for the 2012 ChiefsPlanet Mock Draft to begin.

The Indianapolis Colts and billay are on the clock.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:05 PM
Damn. Well you !@#$ers need to stop talking about trading picks, then. You're confusing the nOOb.

What were you thinking about doing?

Color me intrigued.

As the Jags GM, I'd be supremely interested in trading down.

SNR
03-05-2012, 12:06 PM
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SNR
03-05-2012, 12:06 PM
Billay's AWOL.

Who votes we replace him with NightFyre?

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2012, 12:08 PM
By the way Rams Fan's PM his pick so we can keep on moving along when billay shows up.

Nightfyre
03-05-2012, 12:08 PM
Billay's AWOL.

Who votes we replace him with NightFyre?

oh! I do! (just kidding billay!)

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:11 PM
By the way Rams Fan's PM his pick so we can keep on moving along when billay shows up.

I'd be okay with just skipping billay anyway since we know what the pick is going to be.

If he selects any other player in existence, he should be booted, BCF style.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:12 PM
"After bringing back Manning, the Colts need help along the interior of their line, so they pick David DeCastro first overall from Stanford."

Nightfyre
03-05-2012, 12:14 PM
"After bringing back Manning, the Colts need help along the interior of their line, so they pick David DeCastro first overall from Stanford."

I think the colts view ILB as a bigger priority. They should probably draft Kuechly.

Chocolate Hog
03-05-2012, 12:15 PM
Welcome to the 2012 Chiefsplanet Mock Draft.

Before I make my selection I'd like to thank everyone involved who makes this so much fun every year. Alright let's get down to business.

With the first pick in the Chiefsplanet NFL Mock Draft:

Colts Select: Andrew Luck

This pick really doesn't need any explanation.

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2012, 12:21 PM
I got Rams Fan's pick via PM to keep this train a rolling:

With the 2nd pick, the St. Louis Rams draft Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State.

Marco Polo
03-05-2012, 12:29 PM
With the 3rd pick, the Minnesota Vikings turn a weakness into a strength by selecting their top non-QB on their entire draft board.

The Minnesota Vikings select Matt Kalil, OT, Southern California.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:30 PM
This is going to sound crazy, but I'd draft RG3 if I were the Vikings.

Don't give a shit about Ponder.

SNR
03-05-2012, 12:32 PM
NUH UH UR DOIN IT RONG

Team Name selects Player Name, Position, School

Then include a short description of your selection and why it was made. You don't have to right a novel. Make sure that you bold your selection so that it is easy to update the main post

Try again!

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:34 PM
NOBODY HERE HAS TO RIGHT A NOVEL

jd1020
03-05-2012, 12:34 PM
NUH UH UR DOIN IT RONG



Try again!

What if you wrong a novel?

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:35 PM
What if you wrong a novel?

That ain't write.

jd1020
03-05-2012, 12:35 PM
What if you wrong a novel?

Too slow.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:35 PM
Too slow.

Two bad.

SNR
03-05-2012, 12:38 PM
Your both doing good on you're word choices

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:39 PM
Anybody else in this thread at the moment?

Or am I Obama's elf?

DBoweShow
03-05-2012, 12:42 PM
Anybody else in this thread at the moment?

Or am I Obama's elf?

I feel like I am watching this thread as if it is the 2012 NFL Draft. Not a mock.

SNR
03-05-2012, 12:46 PM
We now go to Suzy Kolber, who is with RGIII as he waits to receive a phone call. It's a pity for RGIII that Suzy is a raging barren lesbian, because he could really get his flirt on in the time it will take for him to be drafted.

DBoweShow
03-05-2012, 12:50 PM
We are now showing a split-screen live clip, on one side from One Arrowhead Drive where Scott Pioli is on one line, and on the other side is RG3 being handed a Chief's hat. Looks like the Chief's made the move for the talented young QB out of Baylor.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:53 PM
We're hearing reports that the Browns turned down several offers because the Chiefs, in addition to this year's first and next year's first, were offering the Browns quarterback Matt Cassel.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 12:57 PM
Cassel will apparently serve as depth behind Colt McCoy.

DaKCMan AP
03-05-2012, 01:05 PM
The Cleveland Browns (the 1st of DaKCMan AP's 2012 CB combo) need help in a lot of areas. Peyton Hillis will not return to the team and the only RBs currently on the roster are Chris Ogbonnaya and Montario Hardesty. In 2011 the Browns offense ranked 29th in yards, 30th in points, and a pathetic 28th in rush offense. Add to that possibly the best pro prospect at RB since Adrian Peterson available in Trent Richardson and this pick should be automatic, right?

Right?



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This league is a QB centric league. You either have a franchise guy and are a contender year in and year out - or you don't. And if you don't, no matter what other weaknesses your team has, if you have the opportunity to acquire one - you do it. Additionally, the CP Mock Cleveland Browns GM (who is Awesome, by the way) ardently believes RB is a commodity position that can be found late in drafts or undrafted (Arian Foster, Priest Holmes, Willie Parker, Michael Turner, Terrell Davis, Fred Jackson, Jamal Anderson, Ahmad Bradshaw, etc. anyone?).

Colt McCoy will be an excellent backup to the future of the Cleveland Browns franchise.

With the 4th pick in the 2012 CP Mock, the Cleveland Browns select Robert Lee Griffin III, QB, Baylor University.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 01:11 PM
I'd like to get through the first 15 picks are so by the end of the night.

Things aren't going to get interesting until then.

Sfeihc
03-05-2012, 01:33 PM
With the fifth pick in the 2012 CP Mock the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU.

The Bucs need alot of help and with the status of the Jayhawk Jailbird in serious doubt and Ronde Barber older than dirt taking Claiborne is an easy choice.

Remember to PM the next GM

Pestilence
03-05-2012, 01:45 PM
NUH UH UR DOIN IT RONG



Try again!

NOBODY HERE HAS TO RIGHT A NOVEL

What if you wrong a novel?

That ain't write.

:facepalm:


I hang my head in shame.

DJ's left nut
03-05-2012, 01:45 PM
What were you thinking about doing?

Color me intrigued.

As the Jags GM, I'd be supremely interested in trading down.

I wanted Maurice Claiborne at 5.

Gotta get some defense up in here...

(guess I spelled his name wrong...don't care)

Marco Polo
03-05-2012, 01:47 PM
This is going to sound crazy, but I'd draft RG3 if I were the Vikings.

Don't give a shit about Ponder.

True, but there is NO way RG3 even gets to the Vikings. Wanted to be as realistic as possible since we aren't doing trades.

Woodrow Call
03-05-2012, 02:15 PM
Pretty much have no choice but to reach a little here. I think he fits what Shanahan likes in a QB.

Washington Redskins select Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M

DeezNutz
03-05-2012, 02:18 PM
Christian Ponder, QB, A&M.

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2012, 03:19 PM
Look who is holding the mock draft up right now.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 04:16 PM
Well, I picked this team because I knew they would be a challenge.

The Jags are just in a historically impossible spot at #7. It's miserable.

The value positions at this point are at OT, RB, and OG. And with the exception of right tackle, the Jags are set here.

As for the pieces the Jags do need... It's too low for Blackmon. Too high for Floyd. Too low for Kalil. Too high for Reiff.

Any pick for the Jaguars at this point is, by default, a reach. There are no playmakers on offense I like enough to take here. If I'm the Jags GM, I make the biggest play I can for Vincent Jackson, because Blaine Gabbert, shitty as he is, is alone out there.

There are some playmakers on defense that I love, however. I think this team badly needs some corners, and Kirkpatrick is the perfect zone corner for this team. But I don't think zone corners demand this kind of pick, either.

So I'm going to with who I think will be the best passrusher to emerge from this draft. The Jaguars select DE Melvin Ingram from South Carolina.

The Jags now have a defensive line of

DE: Jeremy Mincey
3T: Tyson Alualu
NT: Terrance Knighton
DE: Melvin Ingram

That is going to take as much pressure off Ingram as possible. And in turn, take this already-stout Jaguars defense to Top 5 territory, assuming we make the right acquisitions at the corner position.

The 'Phins are on the clock.

In related news.... A DOLPHIN WEARING A HELMET??? SERIOUSLY???

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 04:23 PM
I think this has to be a defensive lineman for the Dolphins.

You can't go from a 3-4 to a 4-3 and not make investmenst along the DL.

SNR
03-05-2012, 04:36 PM
Thanks, Archie. Pest and I can now feel good about settling for fatties on the offensive line now that Tannehill is gone.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 04:51 PM
Thanks, Archie. Pest and I can now feel good about settling for fatties on the offensive line now that Tannehill is gone.

You guys are picking up Manning anyways.

Rams Fan
03-05-2012, 05:38 PM
Blackmon. Saffold started at LT all last year. With a full offseason & camp he should remain there while they upgrade their awful WR position.

Uh, no he didn't. He was on IR to end the season.

DaKCMan AP
03-05-2012, 06:09 PM
Uh, no he didn't. He was on IR to end the season.

Sorry, I meant he started his entire rookie year.

Direckshun
03-05-2012, 06:46 PM
I vote we eject BossChief from this mock and all future mocks.

SNR
03-05-2012, 06:53 PM
ChiefsCountry, just give him Marvin McNutt and let's move on. I'd like to make my pick before tomorrow afternoon, when I'm pretty busy.

DeezNutz
03-05-2012, 06:55 PM
Long has been underperforming, so Reiff makes a great deal of sense here. /BossEye

Chocolate Hog
03-05-2012, 08:40 PM
He's trying to trade the pick for Stanzi.

O.city
03-05-2012, 08:56 PM
So how long does Boss have to make a pick?

DJ's left nut
03-05-2012, 09:54 PM
Dammit, Boss - just get your ass in here and take my !@#$ing guy already.

SNR
03-05-2012, 10:07 PM
Dammit, Boss - just get your ass in here and take my !@#$ing guy already.Who's your guy? Riley Reiff or Marvin McNutt?

Sfeihc
03-05-2012, 10:11 PM
BossChief has until 3:15AM. 12 hours from the previous pick is the rule in the 1st post. Not like him to miss the fun. Hopefully all is okay and he picks and doesn't go full Mecca on us.

SNR
03-05-2012, 10:50 PM
Was it 12 hours last year as well? I thought we had 24 last year?

DeezNutz
03-05-2012, 10:52 PM
Was it 12 hours last year as well? I thought we had 24 last year?

And we fucking traded picks!

O.city
03-05-2012, 10:54 PM
Boss was on CP while ago, he made a few posts. Maybe he forgot?

Pestilence
03-05-2012, 10:57 PM
Thank God he only has one pick this round.

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2012, 11:11 PM
I think it is a 24 hour rule actually, especially on the weekends.

SNR
03-05-2012, 11:12 PM
Boss was on CP while ago, he made a few posts. Maybe he forgot?Did Direckshun forget to PM him?

Maybe Direckshun is the dirty one.

SNR
03-05-2012, 11:13 PM
And we fucking traded picks!And I won the draft last year, too.

Oh wait, that actually did happen.

BossChief
03-05-2012, 11:32 PM
My bad, didn't think this would roll as fast as it has.

I'll have my pick in in a little bit, I'm still weighing my options.

BossChief
03-06-2012, 12:23 AM
With the 8th pick in the first round of the 2012 NFL Draft, The Miami Dolphins select Courtney Upshaw DE/LB Alabama

I know this may be a reach to most people, as he isn't really thought of this highly most places I look... but this kid is really special. He can rush off the edge, set the edge...he impacts all facets of the game and I see him transitioning very well to the NFL.

He is also scheme diverse and the Dolphins will seemingly use a hybrid 4-3/3-4 alignment.

This may well break my streak of nailing my first round picks after taking Julio jones at 6 last year and taking Weatherspoon for Atlanta the year before, but I think it's worth it.

Next up is Carolina.

I'll send the pm right now.

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 06:58 AM
Well Direkshun up and took the hybrid pass-rusher I really wanted here since Rivera can't seem to figure out if he wants to go with a 4-3 or a 3-4 (still can't believe that happened), but I suppose I can make do with the most physically gifted lineman in the draft:

The Carolina Panthers select Quinton Coples, DE - North Carolina

Here's hoping the talent trumps the motor...or at least the motor gets a bit of a tuneup at the NFL level.

Bills are up, PM sent.

Sfeihc
03-06-2012, 07:55 AM
Pesty and the CHIEFS are on deck!:popcorn:

SNR
03-06-2012, 08:21 AM
Eff you guys for taking all the pass rushers.

My Seattle pick is going to be spectacularly True Faneriffic

htismaqe
03-06-2012, 08:29 AM
The Buffalo Bills are about to reach. They REALLY wanted a pass rusher but the early run on them has left them scratching their chins...

htismaqe
03-06-2012, 08:46 AM
The Buffalo Bills are in an interesting position.

They desperately need help at both DE and OLB, now that they are transitioning to a 4-3. The early run on defensive ends has put them in a bad spot.

They could look at OT but the two logical selections, Martin and Reiff neither project out to be sure-fire LEFT tackles and the Bills are already set on the right with Erik Pears. Furthermore, there's some talk within the organization and without that the offensive line wasn't THAT bad and that Fitzpatrick himself contributed to some of the protection problems.

After much sweating, the Buffalo Bills select:

WHITNEY MERCILUS, DE, ILLINOIS

Many thought that Mercilus would benefit from a lack of premiere DE talent in this draft and sure enough he did. Mercilus was somewhat of a "one year wonder" amassing 16 of his 18 college sacks during the 2011 season. He isn't a particularly explosive player off the snap but has good instincts and can get to the QB.

DaKCMan AP
03-06-2012, 09:01 AM
Lets see if Pest goes Trent Richardson or DeCastro or Martin/Rieff.

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 09:16 AM
Eff you guys for taking all the pass rushers.

My Seattle pick is going to be spectacularly True Faneriffic

When Ingram went off the board, I was dead certain that Coples was gone to Miami and that I was going to have to murder Direkshun.

Major sigh of relief when he slipped the extra spot. Like you, I was gonna have to go true fan because I just couldn't bring myself to reach for Michael Brockers.

Though you may go even more true-fan than me; I'd have never gone DeCastro (Martin was my guy) - but out in Seattle, the home of Marshawn Lynch and his...uh....limited explosiveness, a badass guard may be a perfect fit to blow open holes for some power football.

the Talking Can
03-06-2012, 09:16 AM
4 DEs in the top 10...yikes

Richardson or OL.....?

i have no idea what pioli would do, besides trying to trade down..

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 09:19 AM
4 DEs in the top 10...yikes

Richardson or OL.....?

i have no idea what pioli would do, besides trying to trade down..

The league is hell-bent on not allowing DBs to do their job, so you might as well get after the passer.

Had a legit #1 CB prospect that didn't get thrown out of school or have problems rockin' the gange fallen to me, I'd have probably still gone CB, but one Claiborne was off the board, a pass-rusher was a no-brainer for a team that finished with 31 sacks last season and couldn't so much as slow most passing games down.

SNR
03-06-2012, 09:21 AM
When Ingram went off the board, I was dead certain that Coples was gone to Miami and that I was going to have to murder Direkshun.

Major sigh of relief when he slipped the extra spot. Like you, I was gonna have to go true fan because I just couldn't bring myself to reach for Michael Brockers.

Though you may go even more true-fan than me; I'd have never gone DeCastro (Martin was my guy) - but out in Seattle, the home of Marshawn Lynch and his...uh....limited explosiveness, a badass guard may be a perfect fit to blow open holes for some power football.Seattle's two biggest needs are QB and pass rusher. One of those positions is short in this draft, and the other got raped over by these fiends.

DeCastro's on my short list. Seahawk fans are bitching about John Moffitt, but he just needs a year. He'll be fine. It'd be the other guard position I consider if DeCastro's still on the board.

the Talking Can
03-06-2012, 09:24 AM
The league is hell-bent on not allowing DBs to do their job, so you might as well get after the passer.

Had a legit #1 CB prospect that didn't get thrown out of school or have problems rockin' the gange fallen to me, I'd have probably still gone CB, but one Claiborne was off the board, a pass-rusher was a no-brainer for a team that finished with 31 sacks last season and couldn't so much as slow most passing games down.

i'm not really criticizing it, just surprised...in the drafters defense, I think this draft is soft in the first after about 4-5 guys, and in another year these DE's would be falling to mid-lower first round...

unless you have a screaming need for a tackle, the value just isn't there..its why we're even considering a RB with Charles on our roster...it would be a true BPA pick..

edit

think of a guy like Jerry Hughes, TCU, a couple of years ago...31st pick...was he that much lesser a prospect than Upshaw?

htismaqe
03-06-2012, 09:32 AM
That's just it - after the top 4 or 5, this draft just isn't stellar.

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 09:37 AM
i'm not really criticizing it, just surprised...in the drafters defense, I think this draft is soft in the first after about 4-5 guys, and in another year these DE's would be falling to mid-lower first round...

unless you have a screaming need for a tackle, the value just isn't there..its why we're even considering a RB with Charles on our roster...it would be a true BPA pick..

edit

think of a guy like Jerry Hughes, TCU, a couple of years ago...31st pick...was he that much lesser a prospect than Upshaw?

Then again, is Coples any less talented than Mario Williams? There are even similar questions surrounding their technique and intensity.

I'm not convinced that this is a bad draft for pass-rushers. Someone like Ingram really does look like he could make a Von Miller like impact.

the Talking Can
03-06-2012, 09:48 AM
Then again, is Coples any less talented than Mario Williams? There are even similar questions surrounding their technique and intensity.

I'm not convinced that this is a bad draft for pass-rushers. Someone like Ingram really does look like he could make a Von Miller like impact.


Ingram is the one that surprised me the most, imo...I watched the guy play most of the year, thought he was very good...never thought he was a top-10 pick...can't say I see the similarities to Miller at all...

but this is just chatter...

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 10:01 AM
Ingram is the one that surprised me the most, imo...I watched the guy play most of the year, thought he was very good...never thought he was a top-10 pick...can't say I see the similarities to Miller at all...

but this is just chatter...

His versatility really has teams chasing him. With so many teams trying to incorporate hybrid fronts, a guy that can put his hand on the ground in a 4-3 or be a standup LBer in a 3-4 is damn valuable. Ultimately I think Ingram is a better fit as a 3-4 OLBer (has very nice hands and plays well in space) and if you can get a guy that is versatile enough to both rush the passer and cover in space, you have an amazing prospect on your hands.

I really really liked Ingram in this draft. He has greater upside as an OLBer than any player available this year, IMO.

Lono
03-06-2012, 10:04 AM
He sucks, i hope no one picks him.

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 10:08 AM
He sucks, i hope no one picks him.

He gone. Went to Direkshun already.

Lono
03-06-2012, 10:11 AM
He gone. Went to Direkshun already.

Well piss, I didn't even see that. Nice pick up. I would have picked him with the Jets and ran away laughing at him being there.

Pestilence
03-06-2012, 10:27 AM
I'm using my phone and now I have a tough decision to make. Give me like an hour.

Sfeihc
03-06-2012, 10:40 AM
Allright all you Pioli's out there what do you do here @ 11 with TR and DeCastro on the board? Pick one of those two or try and trade down?

IMHO, You don't pass on a guy who grades out to be an potential All-Pro. DeCastro is my pick. A while back the CHIEFS faced a similar situation with two safties they thought were good or good enough(Woods and Tounge, I believe) and they passed on Ed Reed. Oops!
You take the Ed Reed type player.

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 10:49 AM
Trent Richardson would be my guy without question. Then Martin, then DeCastro.

Lono
03-06-2012, 11:06 AM
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the 3. Myself, I would prefer one of the two lineman. DeCastro will be a 12 year all pro type of guy and a dominate force in the run game. To me its hard to pass on a guy who is literally a can't miss.

ChiefsCountry
03-06-2012, 11:08 AM
Richardson, Rieff, DeCastro.

jd1020
03-06-2012, 11:21 AM
Richardson, Rieff, DeCastro.

I'd pick Reiff.

Richardson is all well and good but there are some really good RBs available in the 2nd/3rd round like Doug Martin. Starting to like that kid more and more.

DaKCMan AP
03-06-2012, 11:23 AM
I'll take Will Shields, I mean David DeCastro.

Pestilence
03-06-2012, 11:25 AM
The Kansas City Chiefs select Trent Richardson, RB, University of Alabama.

The obvious choice in this spot would be to trade down but that isn't going to happen in this mock. So I'll go with the BPA who also fits a position of need. We have no idea where Charles is or even if he will ever be at 100%. You can say that you don't take RBs this high but Richardson is an every down back and the contract at #11 isn't franchise killing. Charles and Richardson give this offense a running game to lean on if Cassel is the QB. If its Orton or Manning.....this offense just became top 5.

htismaqe
03-06-2012, 11:32 AM
Not a bad pick. I sincerely hope Manning is the QB and not stop-gap 1 or stop-gap 2 if we're taking Richardson.

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 11:36 AM
I'd pick Reiff.

Richardson is all well and good but there are some really good RBs available in the 2nd/3rd round like Doug Martin. Starting to like that kid more and more.

Martin looked like a bit of a plodder to me; not much explosion there and not a great deal of power.

If absolutely everything goes to script, he could end up being a Matt Forte type player. I don't see him having Forte's agility though.

If everything goes to script for Miller, he's another Jamaal Charles. And for Richardson it's Adrian Peterson.

With the only really good choices being Martin (need), DeCastro (ability), Poe (ugh, I guess) and Richardson; I think Trent has the best combination of need, positional value, dynamic ability and overall ceiling. With the pick I would've used on Miller in the 2nd, I can go after Alemu or Sanders to fill other needs quite well in their own right.

jd1020
03-06-2012, 11:37 AM
Not a bad pick. I sincerely hope Manning is the QB and not stop-gap 1 or stop-gap 2 if we're taking Richardson.

I hope some tackle falls to the second round. The market for tackle is so depressing passed the top 3 in the draft. There's nothing in FA and not much in the draft either. People are starting to think about DeCastro and Glenn at tackle, now.

On the other hand, there are good RBs that should be available to us in the second and there are so good RBs in FA that would fit.

jd1020
03-06-2012, 11:39 AM
If everything goes to script for Miller, he's another Jamaal Charles. And for Richardson it's Adrian Peterson.

Martin is 5'9 220. He has power to his game. Not sure how that = Charles.

Pestilence
03-06-2012, 11:45 AM
Reading is fundamental. He said Miller = Charles.

jd1020
03-06-2012, 11:53 AM
Reading is fundamental. He said Miller = Charles.

I can only assume that he used the wrong name since we were never talking about Miller.

DaKCMan AP
03-06-2012, 11:57 AM
I can only assume that he used the wrong name since we were never talking about Miller.

You know what they say about assuming...

He compared Martin to Forte, Miller to Charles, and Richardson to AP.

jd1020
03-06-2012, 12:02 PM
You know what they say about assuming...

He compared Martin to Forte, Miller to Charles, and Richardson to AP.

I can see that then. I still like having a top talent in the draft at T blocking for Forte and Charles over having a meh player blocking for AP and Charles.

Another thing about drafting Richardson would mean pretty much eliminating Charles. Which may not be a bad thing because Charles might not be the Charles we knew, ever again. Someone like Richardson is someone you don't have on the bench.

DBoweShow
03-06-2012, 12:14 PM
I can see that then. I still like having a top talent in the draft at T blocking for Forte and Charles over having a meh player blocking for AP and Charles.

Another thing about drafting Richardson would mean pretty much eliminating Charles. Which may not be a bad thing because Charles might not be the Charles we knew, ever again. Someone like Richardson is someone you don't have on the bench.

I don't see why you need to eliminate Charles. Charles is someone you don't have on the bench. Why can't you just get them both around 15 touches in a game. I see nothing wrong with that. IMO

Pestilence
03-06-2012, 12:15 PM
I can see that then. I still like having a top talent in the draft at T blocking for Forte and Charles over having a meh player blocking for AP and Charles.

Another thing about drafting Richardson would mean pretty much eliminating Charles. Which may not be a bad thing because Charles might not be the Charles we knew, ever again. Someone like Richardson is someone you don't have on the bench.

Not true. You can still give Richardson 20-25 touches a game and Charles 15-20.

jd1020
03-06-2012, 12:19 PM
I don't see why you need to eliminate Charles. Charles is someone you don't have on the bench. Why can't you just get them both around 15 touches in a game. I see nothing wrong with that. IMO

I guess I just don't see the sense in drafting an AP type RB to split carries.

Even last year when AP only played 12 games he was averaging 19 touches a game.

Vikes #2 who started the rest and played in all 16 averaged 8. If you take out the games he didn't start he was averaging 4 touches a game with AP healthy.

Now, Charles is better than Gerhart but hes not a 3 down back and sitting an AP type runner to accommodate someone else, even if it is Charles, just doesn't make sense to me.

the Talking Can
03-06-2012, 12:19 PM
you can't take a fucking guard at #11

I don't care if he has lazer beam eyes and a 90 foot cock that doubles as an apartment complex for pets...


never...fucking...ever

you: "hey, what's KC's biggest need?"
me: "QB"
you: "hey, the best option at #11 is a guard"
me: "this is the button for apocalypse...I'm pushing it, nice knowing y'all"

jd1020
03-06-2012, 12:34 PM
Not true. You can still give Richardson 20-25 touches a game and Charles 15-20.

Are we going to be the Denver Broncos now?

DaKCMan AP
03-06-2012, 12:35 PM
you can't take a fucking guard at #11

I don't care if he has lazer beam eyes and a 90 foot cock that doubles as an apartment complex for pets...


never...fucking...ever

you: "hey, what's KC's biggest need?"
me: "QB"
you: "hey, the best option at #11 is a guard"
me: "this is the button for apocalypse...I'm pushing it, nice knowing y'all"

A couple of guards were taken at #17 (Steve Hutchinson, Mike Iupati) and #23 (Davin Joseph, Danny Watkins) and Chris Naeole was taken #10 overall.

It's a weak draft this year and DeCastro is a great prospect. I wouldn't be upset with him at #11.

Pestilence
03-06-2012, 12:37 PM
Are we going to be the Denver Broncos now?

Do you understand the difference between touches and carries?

jd1020
03-06-2012, 12:38 PM
Do you understand the difference between touches and carries?

Do you understand the ratio of rushes to catches RBs get?

The Broncos averaged 34 rushes a game.

Taking the best reception years of both Charles and Peterson and adding the ratio of rushes:catches to fit the 15-20 range for Charles and 20-25 range for Peterson you are looking at 30-36 rushes a game and about 5 catches combined.

DBoweShow
03-06-2012, 12:41 PM
I don't personally see how Richardson and Charles splitting touches/carries is a bad thing at all. Keeps them both healthier and fresh, so when and if we can sneak into the playoffs with Castle/or be a top 5 offense with Manning, we have to stud running backs who are both fresh and ready to run in the 3 games in the postseason.

the Talking Can
03-06-2012, 12:41 PM
A couple of guards were taken at #17 (Steve Hutchinson, Mike Iupati) and #23 (Davin Joseph, Danny Watkins) and Chris Naeole was taken #10 overall.

It's a weak draft this year and DeCastro is a great prospect. I wouldn't be upset with him at #11.

i'm not drafting the least important player on the field in the first round (without trading down), unless my team is set everywhere else...guards are the easiest position in football to find in the draft...and you don't need all-pro guards anyways...unless your QB and RB both suck ass, in which case you should be drafting a QB or RB

for a team with our needs, it's a giant ****ing waste...not to mention it just makes me sick on principal, a team that won't draft QBs but will draft guards..


*edit*

I'm not trying to be argumentative in this thread or derail it...this my second favorite thread of the year...just blowing off QB-related steam which sprays indiscriminately...

DaKCMan AP
03-06-2012, 12:49 PM
i'm not drafting the least important player on the field in the first round (without trading down), unless my team is set everywhere else...guards are the easiest position in football to find in the draft...and you don't need all-pro guards anyways...unless your QB and RB both suck ass, in which case you should be drafting a QB or RB

for a team with our needs, it's a giant ****ing waste...not to mention it just makes me sick on principal, a team that won't draft QBs but will draft guards..

Disagree. A big, strong guard who can block giant tackles that is also athletic enough to pull and smart enough to pick up blitzes can open up the offense quite a bit. Sure, you can find guards late. I also think you can find RBs late. In a normal draft DeCastro wouldn't need to be taken this high, but it's a very weak draft.

htismaqe
03-06-2012, 12:56 PM
Not true. You can still give Richardson 20-25 touches a game and Charles 15-20.

You do realize that you're talking about an offense that has less balance than the 2010 offense, right?

htismaqe
03-06-2012, 12:57 PM
Are we going to be the Denver Broncos now?

I think with the thought of Matt Cassel being the starter fresh in their minds, that's the only option people see.

Myself, I'd rather not take Richardson...

Direckshun
03-06-2012, 01:49 PM
Did Direckshun forget to PM him?

Maybe Direckshun is the dirty one.

Nope. Check his wall.

Direckshun
03-06-2012, 01:57 PM
To be fair, Cassel's actually a halfway decent QB when the run game is on.

Richardson/Charles ensures that it's on for all 16 games.

You'll get nothing but 27/7 seasons out of him with that kind of consistency running the ball.

Direckshun
03-06-2012, 02:01 PM
Seahawks badly need a QB or a DE. Both positions have been overdrafted so far. ROFL

SNR's in a bad place.

If he were comfortable with their character concerns, I'd go with either of the stud corners here.

Kuechly wouldn't be too bad of a fit, either. And there's always DeCastro, since Robert Gallery sucks the penis.

It just sucks SNR has to settle for this kind of bullshit.

the Talking Can
03-06-2012, 02:04 PM
To be fair, Cassel's actually a halfway decent QB when the run game is on.

Richardson/Charles ensures that it's on for all 16 games.

You'll get nothing but 27/7 seasons out of him with that kind of consistency running the ball.

and accomplish nothing

DeezNutz
03-06-2012, 02:38 PM
I would like for SNR to get the **** out of his basement long enough to check CP, make his pick, and then thank his mom for making his lunch and doing his laundry.

Sfeihc
03-06-2012, 02:45 PM
Make the easy pick with TR gone, take DeCastro. Make up for letting Hutch get away. I'm sure the Cal guy(Lynch) won't mind having a Cardinal(DeCastro) blasting holes open for him.

DeezNutz
03-06-2012, 02:49 PM
Make the easy pick with TR gone, take DeCastro. Make up for letting Hutch get away. I'm sure the Cal guy(Lynch) won't mind having a Cardinal(DeCastro) blasting holes open for him.

If Pest passes on him, Richardson would have been making his way to your pick.

Sfeihc
03-06-2012, 03:13 PM
Wow, TR with Dalton and Green! That would be something.

BossChief
03-06-2012, 03:19 PM
I vote we eject BossChief from this mock and all future mocks.:rolleyes:

Haha

For what?

BTW, I checked my private messages a couple times...if you had sent a pm (as required via rules to this) and not posted it on my wall, I would have gotten my pick in hours earlier.

I also think it's a bit rich to call for my head when I clearly followed the rules and you didn't...also, you made us all wait quite a bit last year for your pick.

Now, get out of my way so I can rape the talent from this draft as I have the last two years while you ensure your special teams unit is stellar...:D

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 03:28 PM
:rolleyes:

Haha

For what?

BTW, I checked my private messages a couple times...if you had sent a pm (as required via rules to this) and not posted it on my wall, I would have gotten my pick in hours earlier.

I also think it's a bit rich to call for my head when I clearly followed the rules and you didn't...also, you made us all wait quite a bit last year for your pick.

Now, get out of my way so I can rape the talent from this draft as I have the last two years while you ensure your special teams unit is stellar...:D

Do whatever you want, you didn't take Coples from me so I'm happy.

SNR
03-06-2012, 04:04 PM
I would like for SNR to get the **** out of his basement long enough to check CP, make his pick, and then thank his mom for making his lunch and doing his laundry.Sorry. Some people have to work for a living to put food on the table.

I'm in the middle of crafting a glorious post in which I will make my pick. Hold yer horses.

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 04:13 PM
Sorry. Some people have to work for a living to put food on the table.

I'm in the middle of crafting a glorious post in which I will make my pick. Hold yer horses.

Try stealing; it's always worked for me.

I get to put a lot more thought into my draft strategy this way.

DeezNutz
03-06-2012, 04:21 PM
Sorry. Some people have to work for a living to put food on the table.

I'm in the middle of crafting a glorious post in which I will make my pick. Hold yer horses.

On CP, we're all independently wealthy. Well...except for your sorry ass. Apologies.

DJ's left nut
03-06-2012, 04:22 PM
On CP, we're all independently wealthy. Well...except for your sorry ass. Apologies.

How else could the entire damn board manage in polite society with shaved heads and goatees?

Only the super wealthy can pull that look off.

SNR
03-06-2012, 04:33 PM
The top players available that the Seahawks should consider:

Michael Brockers
David DeCastro
Kendall Wright
Michael Floyd
Luke Kuechly
Dre Kirkpatrick
Dontari Poe

Yes, that's right. The other tackles will continue to fall in this draft. Okung sucks dick (okay he's mediocre, but I love to dig at Sac's boy) and Carpenter had huge injury problems. It's sink or swim, and the new guys haven't been given a real good chance to swim at all. The same goes for G John Moffitt last year, whom I really liked. The team should in no way give up on him after one measly rookie year. He'll figure shit out, and he'll be good.

First step: Get rid of Dre Kirkpatrick. He's not the best player available, and he's far from a need. Trufant and Brandon Browner make up a formidable pair of CBs.

Piss on Michael Floyd (sorry, Pest). His skills are great, but not exceptional. And sheesh you want to talk about a WR with diva problems? How about off-the-field issues? Good lord. People who bitch about Jon Baldwin being a problem child need to shut the fuck up.

Interior defensive line would be fabulous, but I don't see the talent available translating to what the Seahawks need. Brockers is a slow fuck, still a bit immature, and I've got a nasty ass taste in my mouth from Tyson Jackson. I wouldn't wish that upon any team, especially a team that couldn't use him like a 3-4 team could use him. And fuck Dontari Poe. He's not Haloti Ngata. Just shut the fuck up, please.

Luke Kuechly, Kendall Wright, or David DeCastro? The talent : need ratio doesn't really favor Wright, IMO. And as great as DeCastro would be for the Seahawks' new run-first offense, they did just fine last year. They're much better finding interior linemen in the middle rounds to replace the other side of Moffit. As much as I hate white LBs (another dig at Sac), Kuechly makes the most sense here.

The Seahawks were fine against the run and pass in terms of yards. However, they can't keep both vets David Hawthorne and Leroy Hill. That's a small problem. By drafting Kuechly, they're getting a solid player to fill that position, as well as a player with the talent to work into pass rush lineups. It doesn't in any way address their pass rush problem, but it adds an extra possibility.

The Seattle Seahawks draft Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College

DeezNutz
03-06-2012, 05:39 PM
The Cardinals need help along the offensive line in the worst way. Unfortunately, the OTs in this class are lackluster. Thus, the team selects the BPA at an area of need:

David DeCastro, OG, Stanford

True Fans everywhere rejoice.

SNR
03-06-2012, 05:49 PM
I'm glad you took the fucking guard, Deez.

You're a weaker bigger man than I

Direckshun
03-06-2012, 05:58 PM
I've got a nasty ass taste in my mouth from Tyson Jackson.

We get it. You're fucking an NFL player. Jesus.

I vote that we eject SNR from the rest of this mock and all future mocks.

Direckshun
03-06-2012, 06:00 PM
The Cardinals need help along the offensive line in the worst way. Unfortunately, the OTs in this class are lackluster. Thus, the team selects the BPA at an area of need:

David DeCastro, OG, Stanford

True Fans everywhere rejoice.

BURN HERRRR

SNR
03-06-2012, 06:06 PM
We get it. You're fucking an NFL player. Jesus.

I vote that we eject SNR from the rest of this mock and all future mocks.Went for the easy one, eh? You rely on your athleticism worse than Dontari Poe, and with roughly similar results-- 2nd-team CUSA.

On a side note, I recently found out that a former girlfriend of mine is currently married to Mark Tauscher. So the NFL is getting my sloppy seconds. Go me.

Direckshun
03-06-2012, 06:29 PM
Went for the easy one, eh? You rely on your athleticism worse than Dontari Poe, and with roughly similar results-- 2nd-team CUSA.

On a side note, I recently found out that a former girlfriend of mine is currently married to Mark Tauscher. So the NFL is getting my sloppy seconds. Go me.

I pick the low-hanging fruit.

It's the best I can do with my Riley Reiff arms.

SNR
03-06-2012, 07:18 PM
Clearly ChiefsCountry can't be trusted to make his picks on time. I say we kick him out.

DeezNutz
03-06-2012, 07:35 PM
I....OOONNNNNEEEE the mock. Fucking ONE that mock. ClapClap.

ChiefsCountry
03-06-2012, 07:37 PM
Well the Cowboys need help on the OL and CB, since the guard got taken we go for CB. Also since smoking weed is pretty standard for being a Cowboy, we go for the best corner here.

Dallas Cowboys select Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama

doomy3
03-06-2012, 08:42 PM
Excellent. The guy who the Eagles wanted all along makes it to our pick. This is a very deep DT class, but this guy fits the scheme very well and has monster upside. My favorite 4-3 DT in this class. He is a quick, penetrating DT in the mold of Cullen Jenkins, which works well since he is a little raw and can learn how to play the position from Jenkins.

The Eagles select Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State

Direckshun
03-06-2012, 11:34 PM
My remaining big board:

1. OT Riley Reiff, Iowa
2. CB Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama
3. OG/OT Cordy Glenn, Georgia
4. DE/OLB Nick Perry, Southern California
5. WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
6. OT Jonathan Martin, Stanford
7. DT Michael Brockers, LSU
8. C Peter Konz, Wisconsin
9. DT/DE Devon Still, Penn State
10. WR Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
11. OLB Zach Brown, North Carolina
12. OT Mike Adams, Ohio State
13. SS Mark Barron, Alabama
14. DT Jerel Worthy, Michigan State
15. DE Andre Branch, Clemson
16. ILB Dont'a Hightower, Alabama
17. DT Brandon Thompson, Clemson
18. RB David Wilson, Virginia Tech
19. OG/OT Kelechi Osemele, Iowa State
20. WR Mohamed Sanu, Rutgers
21. TE Coby Fleener, Stanford
22. CB Alfonzo Dennard, Nebraska
23. TE Orson Charles, Georgia
24. NT Dontari Poe, Memphis
25. WR Rueben Randle, LSU
26. WR Kendall Wright, Baylor
27. TE Dwayne Allen, Clemson
28. DE/OLB Ronnell Lewis, Oklahoma
29. CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina
30. OT Bobbie Massie, Ole Miss
31. DE Jack Baquette, Arkansas
32. NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington
33. WR Dwight Jones, North Carolina
34. RB Doug Martin, Boise State
35. RB LaMichael James, Oregon
36. DE/OLB Vinny Curry, Marshall
37. WR Tommy Streeter, Miami
38. RB Lamar Miller, Miami
39. DE/DT Derek Wolfe, Cincinnati
40. QB Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State
41. OT Zebrie Sanders, Florida State
42. RB Chris Polk, Washington
43. WR Marvin McNutt, Iowa
44. WR Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma
45. OLB Lavonte David, Nebraska
46. SS Harrison Smith, Notre Dame
47. WR Nick Toon, Nebraska
48. CB Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech

Direckshun
03-06-2012, 11:48 PM
The Jets have holes all over their overpaid roster.

I think, upon losing Burress, they should go with Floyd. Floyd's a fucking headcase, but that's not a problem with the Jets.

Perry would also be a great pickup. Reiff fits their need the most, though.

ChiefsCountry
03-07-2012, 12:50 AM
Reiff makes sense for the Jets IMO. Barry Richardson might be the only right tackle that makes Wayne Hunter look good.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 01:16 AM
True. But RT in the first round? Meh. With the rate they're not going, you could get a good one in the second.

I'd go with Floyd or Perry.

Probably Perry. But I've got a hard on for passrushers.

Lono
03-07-2012, 08:10 AM
Will get my pick done in a few mins.

Lono
03-07-2012, 08:25 AM
There are several guys on the board still that would be a good fit for the Jets. Barron, Reiff, and Floyd would all be guys who came in and started from day one. I think the Jets will lean toward a playmaker on offense and also try to give their Qb another weapon. With the way Rex Ryan is, I don't think they are worried about past off the field issues.

With the 16th pick the New York Jets select Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

Sfeihc
03-07-2012, 08:27 AM
The Cincinnati Bengals select with their first of two first round picks Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama, UCF.

A perfect storm of need meeting BPA with off field baggage galore. The perfect Bengal pick.

doomy3
03-07-2012, 08:31 AM
The Chargers could go a lot of different directions here. They need help across both line, linebacker, the secondary and at WR with Jackson possibly walking.

They will go with a guy who could play on the right or left tackle spot since te only tackle under contract is Clarey. The Chargers select Reilly Reiff, OT, Iowa

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 09:13 AM
There are several guys on the board still that would be a good fit for the Jets. Barron, Reiff, and Floyd would all be guys who came in and started from day one. I think the Jets will lean toward a playmaker on offense and also try to give their Qb another weapon. With the way Rex Ryan is, I don't think they are worried about past off the field issues.

With the 16th pick the New York Jets select Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

Good pick.

The Cincinnati Bengals select with their first of two first round picks Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama, UCF.

A perfect storm of need meeting BPA with off field baggage galore. The perfect Bengal pick.

You've got that right. Damn good pick.

The Chargers could go a lot of different directions here. They need help across both line, linebacker, the secondary and at WR with Jackson possibly walking.

They will go with a guy who could play on the right or left tackle spot since te only tackle under contract is Clarey. The Chargers select Reilly Reiff, OT, Iowa

Best pick of the draft so far.

doomy3
03-07-2012, 09:15 AM
Best pick of the draft so far.

This.

Fletcher Cox is a close second though.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 09:15 AM
If I'm the Bears, I solve my offensive line woes once and for all and draft the shit out of Jonathan Martin.

That gives you the best bookend tackles in the NFC North, with him and Carimi.

Carimi's more of a natural RT, Martin's a natural LT. Cutler may not take a gajillion sacks next year.

DaKCMan AP
03-07-2012, 09:24 AM
The Bears need a lot of help. Unfortunately for them, Michael Floyd & Janoris Jenkins just went off the board and there isn't a top TE prospect this year. They need help at their aging LB and DE positions, too, but the value just isn't there at this pick.

Jay Cutler is often running for his life or getting killed and missed the final 7 games of last season.

Gabe Carimi, last year's 1st round pick, was injured week 2 and missed the rest of the season. He should be back to help solidify the right side. This pick should unseat J'Marcus Webb and provide two young, high quality bookends for years to come.

The Chicago Bears select Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford.

DaKCMan AP
03-07-2012, 09:25 AM
If I'm the Bears, I solve my offensive line woes once and for all and draft the shit out of Jonathan Martin.

That gives you the best bookend tackles in the NFC North, with him and Carimi.

Carimi's more of a natural RT, Martin's a natural LT. Cutler may not take a gajillion sacks next year.

You read my mind.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 09:25 AM
You read my mind.

great minds etc

:D

DJ's left nut
03-07-2012, 09:28 AM
Damn; hated seeing Reif and Martin go so quickly like that; was kinda hoping one would keep sliding.

Back to the drawing board.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 09:28 AM
This pick for the Titans... probably going to be offensive line.

I'm not sure who fits what the Titans run the best, though, Glenn or Konz.

Sfeihc
03-07-2012, 09:28 AM
Either way Marco goes the Bengals really like the way this is unfolding.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 10:53 AM
Marco Polo should be expelled from this draft and all future drafts.

DaKCMan AP
03-07-2012, 11:51 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5E72saeDfXc/TtV6916N1VI/AAAAAAAAHk0/prFC-ZgbZkA/s1600/c4f759bb-e65f-4370-90f7-006e29ecae6e.jpg

Marco Polo
03-07-2012, 12:11 PM
Tennessee really needs to upgrade their pass rush, but their offensive line has some real holes within the interior. The Titans upgrade the LG to help create holes for CJ2K.

The Tennessee Titans select Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 12:25 PM
Do the Titans run a power blocking scheme?

SNR
03-07-2012, 12:39 PM
Yes... gooood goood... this is shaping up rather well for the Packers.

The clusterfuck of players that don't fit Seattle's needs put me behind a bit. I'll need a rock-solid Packers draft like I had last year if I'm going to win the draft again.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 01:00 PM
Yes... gooood goood...

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Sfeihc
03-07-2012, 01:41 PM
The Cincinnati Bengals select Mark Barron S Alabama.

Marco Polo
03-07-2012, 01:43 PM
Do the Titans run a power blocking scheme?

Yes they do, which is what Glenn specializes in.

DaKCMan AP
03-07-2012, 01:49 PM
The Browns solved their QB troubles at the top of the draft. While they'll surround their new franchise QB with help in this draft, it won't be here. The other side of the ball is lacking too. The major defensive needs for the Browns are at DE & OLB. Lucky for them there's a top prospect available that can help out at both positions. He'll bulk up a little and be primarily used at DE, but can play standing up too in packages.

The Cleveland Browns select Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC.

SNR
03-07-2012, 01:51 PM
Eff. That was one of my players on the list. Whatever though. Plenty of good guys left.

DJ's left nut
03-07-2012, 01:55 PM
SON OF BITCH! Did it to me twice.

Stupid KCman; I guess I'll be back shortly.

DJ's left nut
03-07-2012, 02:03 PM
Well as my draft board was pretty well decimated over the last 6 picks, I'll go with the miserably boring, but ultimately probably the smart pick -

The Lions take Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State

They're a great team when Matt Stafford is healthy and those tackles are getting both old and terrible. Adams can step in as an elite RT immediately and with a year or 2 of experience, can also be an above average LT (similar to Albert, really).

With all the CBs worth anything taken and the last of the legitimate early round pass rushers off the board, it appears I have no choice but to make the pick I probably should have made all along anyway. Thought about Konz but his major weakness, if any, is as a pass-blocker and this is still going to be a pass-first team. Raiola has some tread left on the tires and Backus may very well not.

Dammit...it had to be done.

Woodrow Call
03-07-2012, 03:10 PM
With the offensive lineman and corners pretty well picked over, that left me focused on Steelers' holes at NT and ILB.

The Pittsburgh Steelers select ILB Dont'a Hightower, Alabama

I was torn between Poe's potential vs Hightower's production but in the end the draft's depth at those positions and Hightower's ability to start from day 1 tilted the scales in Hightower's favor.

DJ's left nut
03-07-2012, 03:19 PM
With the offensive lineman and corners pretty well picked over, that left me focused on Steelers' holes at NT and ILB.

The Pittsburgh Steelers select ILB Dont'a Hightower, Alabama

I was torn between Poe's potential vs Hightower's production but in the end the draft's depth at those positions and Hightower's ability to start from day 1 tilted the scales in Hightower's favor.

I stared at Hightower for quite awhile before I decided to go with the OT.

Though I wonder why you went that high for a what is probably going to be a Ted backer in the Steelers scheme. He doesn't strike me as being good enough in space to play the MAC role. I guess it's late enough for Poe at this point; that's where I'd have gone, especially with both Steelers NTs looking oooooold last season.

Things really didn't break well for you.

DeezNutz
03-07-2012, 04:54 PM
While my instinct is to give this piece of shit franchise a kicker, I shall resist. The Broncos do, however, need help along the defensive line. This player has been pretty damn beastly at the college level, and he brings a lot of versatility, power, and athleticism. But here's to hoping he's more Sims-like, b/c **** them, that's why:

Devon Still, DT, Penn State

SNR
03-07-2012, 05:01 PM
I like the Still pick, since the Donks are too stubborn to do the right thing and play Tebow at DT

SNR
03-07-2012, 05:03 PM
ChiefsCountry... I know what you're thinking. I know you're thinking about taking him. But don't do it. Don't you fucking dare do it. I will cut you.

Sfeihc
03-07-2012, 05:55 PM
I had a group of players of which I was hopeful the Bengals could land two of them. The group consisted of Jenkins, Kirkpatrick, Glenn and Barron. The Bengals secondary was a HUGE need. After watching TJ Yates shred them in the playoffs It was clear help was needed at both CB and S. I'm looking at you Chris "Betty" Crocker.

Claiborne was an easy pick for the Bucs.

All-in-all the Bucs and Bengals leave the first round very happy with the players they've added.

Lono
03-07-2012, 07:07 PM
The Texans could easily go defense in this spot and Perry would have been the pick had he still been on the board. With him gone, they fill a spot at WR. When Johnson went down last year they realized they had no one else that could stretch the field and Walter and Jones couldn't get it done. So, with the 26th pick of the 2012 draft, the Houston Texans select Kendall Wright Wr Baylor.

ChiefsCountry
03-07-2012, 07:27 PM
Patriots are up and have a couple of choices at this pick. Was very hard to choose between Konz and Poe. I went with Poe. He can play in the 4-3 and 3-4, which New England can do. Not to mention Wilfork and Billy B can get him to play to his potenial.

New England Patriots select Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis.

SNR
03-07-2012, 08:04 PM
Excellent.

The Packers have huge holes on defense. Just a year removed from the the most talented starters and deepest positions across the board in the league, they let Cullen Jenkins go and suffered injuries all across the defensive line. Ryan Pickett's old, but still reliable, and BJ Raji is there to rotate depending on the situation, but the Packers really missed out on that premier force that was probably the best 3-4 DE in the NFL in 2010. Mike Neal is not that guy. Packers fans conjure up images of Justin Harrell when they look at Neal.

Driver's getting old. On the line Wells might leave (he's likely to get re-signed, but still), Chad Clifton is an old fuck, and Derek Sherrod's brief NFL career may be over. His leg exploded in a million pieces. Bulaga and Newhouse are solid, but an extra tackle might not be out of the question. Lastly, that RB position still wasn't fixed with Alex Greene out for the year; it appears he's another failed Brandon Jackson experiment. And the Packers have to do something to grow out the depth at CB.

But right now you take the most talented player at the biggest position of need. Luckily that guy is here.

The Green Bay Packers select Michael Brockers, DT/DE, LSU

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 08:04 PM
Blech.

SNR
03-07-2012, 08:16 PM
You better not be bleching my pick. The Packers had an absolute no-brainer with that one. It was like Pioli's Eric Berry pick in 2010.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 08:17 PM
You better not be bleching my pick. The Packers had an absolute no-brainer with that one. It was like Pioli's Eric Berry pick in 2010.

Poe in New England is an awful fit.

SNR
03-07-2012, 08:18 PM
Poe in New England is an awful fit.Oh.

Carry on, then.

Sfeihc
03-07-2012, 08:29 PM
I don't know about you fellas but the hardest position I have projecting is DT. Brockers and Poe are two perfect examples. These two seemingly have the talent but are quite raw and their development is far from a sure thing. At the point that they were taken in our draft they amount to very good to great value picks. What do you guys think, is there one position that gives you fits in projecting players?

DaKCMan AP
03-07-2012, 08:32 PM
What do you guys think, is there one position that gives you fits in projecting players?

Nope, I'm omniscient. Obviously.

ChiefsCountry
03-07-2012, 08:32 PM
Poe in New England is an awful fit.

How is he an awful fit? He isn't playing nose in New England. They run 3-4 and 4-3. 3-4 he is at end and 4-3 plays as DT.

Sfeihc
03-07-2012, 08:33 PM
Nope, I'm omniscient. Obviously.

****, off to the dictionary I go!:)

DJ's left nut
03-07-2012, 08:33 PM
You better not be bleching my pick. The Packers had an absolute no-brainer with that one. It was like Pioli's Eric Berry pick in 2010.

Brockers has a whole lot of Jackson in him.

Just sayin'...

DJ's left nut
03-07-2012, 08:35 PM
How is he an awful fit? He isn't playing nose in New England. They run 3-4 and 4-3. 3-4 he is at end and 4-3 plays as DT.

Disagree completely.

Poe is a 3-4 nose and a 4-3....well the fuck if I know. I guess if he plays to his potential, he could be the next Sapp who would rip shit up in a 4-3. I just don't see him playing to that potential.

As a 3-4 NT, he could be a fat tub of goo and still be moderately useful.

I like him much more in Pitt (or even in KC if we trade down) than I do in NE.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 08:39 PM
The one I always seem to struggle with is quarterback, honestly. It's too hard to get it figured out.

But passrusher and wide receiver have their challenges, too.

ArrowheadMagic
03-07-2012, 08:41 PM
Disagree completely.

Poe is a 3-4 nose and a 4-3....well the **** if I know. I guess if he plays to his potential, he could be the next Sapp who would rip shit up in a 4-3. I just don't see him playing to that potential.

As a 3-4 NT, he could be a fat tub of goo and still be moderately useful.

I like him much more in Pitt (or even in KC if we trade down) than I do in NE.

Poe is a 2 gap guy, NE would be a perfect fit. Much closer to a Sapp type player than Wilfork. Game tape has to be a worry.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 08:42 PM
Poe is a 2 gap guy, NE would be a perfect fit. Much closer to a Sapp type player than Wilfork. Game tape has to be a worry.

Sapp recorded like 100 sacks.

That's not two-gapping.

ArrowheadMagic
03-07-2012, 08:47 PM
Sapp recorded like 100 sacks.

That's not two-gapping.

A whole lot of tackles over his career. For a DT. Digress, Poe is a fit in NE.

Sfeihc
03-07-2012, 08:54 PM
The one I always seem to struggle with is quarterback, honestly. It's too hard to get it figured out.

But passrusher and wide receiver have their challenges, too.

For a pass rusher of course ability has to be there but what I look for is motor. That is why I have had a great deal of respect for Tamba Hali and what he brings to the table.
A wide receiver like a pass rusher has to have that specific skill set but here is where "want to" comes into play. A player like Hines Ward has for a long time been my favorite player not on the CHIEFS.

Sfeihc
03-07-2012, 08:56 PM
Sapp was a straight 3-technique one gap DT.

SNR
03-07-2012, 09:10 PM
Brockers has a whole lot of Jackson in him.

Just sayin'...Q



Interior defensive line would be fabulous, but I don't see the talent available translating to what the Seahawks need. Brockers is a slow fuck, still a bit immature, and I've got a nasty ass taste in my mouth from Tyson Jackson. I wouldn't wish that upon any team, especially a team that couldn't use him like a 3-4 team could use him. And fuck Dontari Poe. He's not Haloti Ngata. Just shut the fuck up, please.

ArrowheadMagic
03-07-2012, 09:14 PM
Sapp was a straight 3-technique one gap DT.

A lot of tackles for a guy that played one gap.

SNR
03-07-2012, 09:15 PM
Tyson Jackson has value in the late first round, especially when your starting options are that fat fuck elephant Howard Green or broke dick Mike Neal.

A consistent run-stuffer off the edge that eats up blockers would do the Green Bay defense a world of good. I'm telling you. Their defensive woes last season were probably 30% Nick Collins out for the year, 30% no depth or talent at rushing the passer beyond Clay Matthews, and 40% Cullen Jenkins leaving to the Eagles.

Brockers is absolutely the perfect pick.

ArrowheadMagic
03-07-2012, 09:16 PM
Q

One year wonder? Worth the risk. GB obviously needs pass rushers, but whats available.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 09:18 PM
Brockers isn't really a fit for the Packers' one-gap, though.

To me, he's a two-gap end, or a two tech in the 4-3.

But that's just me.

Sfeihc
03-07-2012, 09:27 PM
I agree D, Brockers would be oversized to play 3-technique.

Sapp set the bar at the 3-tech, IMHO. I thought Suh may be the new standard after his rookie season but last season raised and furthered some concerns I have about him.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 09:29 PM
If I had the Packers' pick, I probably would have allowed time to expire in order to beat the shit out of SNR.

:D

SNR
03-07-2012, 09:35 PM
If I had the Packers' pick, I probably would have allowed time to expire in order to beat the shit out of SNR.

:DAnd if you had three wheels you'd be a tricycle now, wouldn't you?

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 09:46 PM
And if you had three wheels you'd be a tricycle now, wouldn't you?

We should do this more often.

SNR
03-07-2012, 09:54 PM
Brockers isn't really a fit for the Packers' one-gap, though.

To me, he's a two-gap end, or a two tech in the 4-3.

But that's just me.BJ Raji isn't exactly a one-gapper either when they rotate him out to the end position and bring in Ryan Pickett.

Capers has a way of making young fatties work in his scheme as long as the talent is there.

Chocolate Hog
03-07-2012, 10:07 PM
The Ravens have a few needs but most of those needs can be filled in the middle rounds. With the Ravens losing Grubbs to free agency and center Matt Birk likely retiring after this season the Ravens will be in need of a center.

Ravens Select: Peter Konz Center/Guard Wisconsin

ArrowheadMagic
03-07-2012, 10:19 PM
Sapp was a straight 3-technique one gap DT.

No tampa 2 plays one gap. Sapp was a special talent. Its why the tampa 2 isnt as good without Sapp.

Direckshun
03-07-2012, 10:19 PM
1. WR Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
2. OLB Zach Brown, North Carolina
3. DT Jerel Worthy, Michigan State
4. DE Andre Branch, Clemson
5. DT Brandon Thompson, Clemson
6. RB David Wilson, Virginia Tech
7. OG/OT Kelechi Osemele, Iowa State
8. WR Mohamed Sanu, Rutgers
9. TE Coby Fleener, Stanford
10. CB Alfonzo Dennard, Nebraska
11. TE Orson Charles, Georgia
12. WR Rueben Randle, LSU
13. TE Dwayne Allen, Clemson
14. DE/OLB Ronnell Lewis, Oklahoma
15. CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina
16. OT Bobbie Massie, Ole Miss
17. DE Jack Baquette, Arkansas
18. NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington
19. WR Dwight Jones, North Carolina
20. RB Doug Martin, Boise State
21. RB LaMichael James, Oregon
22. DE/OLB Vinny Curry, Marshall
23. WR Tommy Streeter, Miami
24. RB Lamar Miller, Miami
25. DE/DT Derek Wolfe, Cincinnati
26. QB Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State
27. OT Zebrie Sanders, Florida State
28. RB Chris Polk, Washington
29. WR Marvin McNutt, Iowa
30. WR Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma
31. OLB Lavonte David, Nebraska
32. SS Harrison Smith, Notre Dame
33. WR Nick Toon, Wisconsin
34. CB Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech

Chocolate Hog
03-07-2012, 10:26 PM
Psst Dick Toon didn't play for Nebraska.

Sfeihc
03-07-2012, 10:59 PM
per wiki;

To defend running plays, the Tampa 2 is a single gap defense where each player is responsible to defend his own gap. The assigned gap changes with game conditions and personnel.

Dylan
03-07-2012, 11:42 PM
This may interest you:

Redeyejedi (JMPasq) has produced numerous excellent scouting videos.

Redeyejedi (JMPasq) is also part of DraftBreakdown crew.

2012 Draft Film Room (Prospects): http://boards.giants.com/forums/1/2125497/ShowThread.aspx

Please send me a PM, if this is the wrong place to post this information. I apologize and will gladly remove it. TIA

Pestilence
03-07-2012, 11:53 PM
This is probably going to be viewed as a reach but I really don't give a shit. It's common knowledge that the 49ers need a WR. I was hoping that Floyd or Wright would fall but it didn't happen. So I'm going to take a player with a HUGE ceiling.

The San Francisco 49ers select Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech

He's the deep threat that the 49ers have been looking for. If anyone can get the talent out of this kid.....its Harbaugh.

Direckshun
03-08-2012, 04:13 AM
Psst Dick Toon didn't play for Nebraska.

:thumb:

Direckshun
03-08-2012, 04:15 AM
This is probably going to be viewed as a reach but I really don't give a shit. It's common knowledge that the 49ers need a WR. I was hoping that Floyd or Wright would fall but it didn't happen. So I'm going to take a player with a HUGE ceiling.

The San Francisco 49ers select Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech

He's the deep threat that the 49ers have been looking for. If anyone can get the talent out of this kid.....its Harbaugh.

Biggest reach of the draft so far, right along htis selecting Mercilus #10 overall.

The 49ers need somebody to rack up 60-80 receptions now, not someone they're going to have to groom for a while. Randle or Sanu would fit their needs much better.

ChiefsCountry
03-08-2012, 09:23 AM
Thank you 49ers for passing on Sanu. I love this player. I think he has the potential to be the next Dwayne Bowe. Brady is going to love him.

The New England Patriots select Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers

DJ's left nut
03-08-2012, 09:24 AM
This may interest you:

Redeyejedi (JMPasq) has produced numerous excellent scouting videos.

Redeyejedi (JMPasq) is also part of DraftBreakdown crew.

2012 Draft Film Room (Prospects): http://boards.giants.com/forums/1/2125497/ShowThread.aspx

Please send me a PM, if this is the wrong place to post this information. I apologize and will gladly remove it. TIA

Mother of God...

I doubt Scott Pioli put as much work into this draft as that guy...

htismaqe
03-08-2012, 09:56 AM
Biggest reach of the draft so far, right along htis selecting Mercilus #10 overall.

The 49ers need somebody to rack up 60-80 receptions now, not someone they're going to have to groom for a while. Randle or Sanu would fit their needs much better.

Yes!!! I knew I could be the best at something...

htismaqe
03-08-2012, 10:13 AM
The New York Giants have a lot of little needs and no gaping holes in their roster - that's usually the case when a team wins the Super Bowl.

The Giants are beginning to show some age on the offensive line however, and could use upgrades at several spots.

With that in mind, the New York Giants select:

JAMES BROWN, OT / OG, TROY

A college OT that has worked out at OG leading up to the Combine, Brown has a lot of upside as a utility lineman. Of course, one could always say that he's not good enough to be a top notch guard OR tackle, but hey, the Giants just won the Super Bowl.

ChiefsCountry
03-08-2012, 10:19 AM
We are now into round two.

Rams Fan PM his pick to keep this thing a rolling.

St. Louis Rams select Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina

Chocolate Hog
03-08-2012, 10:33 AM
The Colts have a lot of needs. My first thought was to draft a NT for that defense that is now a moving to the 34 but with Wayne and Garcon leaving Indy they will need some weapons for Luck. So.....

With the 2nd pick in the 2nd Round:

Colts Select: Reuben Randle WR LSU



This guy has tons of upside but is a raw prospect. It didn't help LSU had shitty Qb's.

Marco Polo
03-08-2012, 10:46 AM
Mike Mayock recently raved about this prospect's potential, noting "I don't think there's any way he's getting out of the first round". Well he did and fortunately for the Vikings, they are thrilled. Minnesota's secondary is abysmal and this prospect will certainly help with that area.

The Minnesota Vikings select Josh Robinson, CB/KR, Central Florida.

DJ's left nut
03-08-2012, 10:55 AM
Mike Mayock recently raved about this prospect's potential, noting "I don't think there's any way he's getting out of the first round". Well he did and fortunately for the Vikings, they are thrilled. Minnesota's secondary is abysmal and this prospect will certainly help with that area.

The Minnesota Vikings select Josh Robinson, CB/KR, Central Florida.

Damn - way to go all Al Davis on us.

He's insanely fast, but his scouting report reads a whole lot like Justin Miller's did.

jd1020
03-08-2012, 11:11 AM
Damn - way to go all Al Davis on us.

He's insanely fast, but his scouting report reads a whole lot like Justin Miller's did.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d827665be/Mayock-s-draft-stock-update

DJ's left nut
03-08-2012, 11:20 AM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d827665be/Mayock-s-draft-stock-update

I didn't say that Mayock doesn't like him.

But he still reads a hell of a lot like Justin Miller.

jd1020
03-08-2012, 11:22 AM
I posted that because it was said that "he tested at the highest level in every measurable." He's more than just fast.

Sfeihc
03-08-2012, 11:44 AM
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina.

The Bucs problems at CB have been solved plus this front office has shown the desire to go Noah's Ark when drafting the last couple of seasons.

DaKCMan AP
03-08-2012, 12:02 PM
The Browns got their QB in RGIII and some defensive help later in round 1. Now it's time to start surrounding RGIII with some weapons. Lamar Miller would be a good choice but I like a lot of RBs later in the draft.

Currently the Browns have Greg Little (who I like a lot), Mohammed Massaquoi (who should be primarily in the slot), and nothing else. Here's a guy who has, IMO, slipped off the radar a bit due to a less than impressive combine and playing in a run-first offense with garbage QBs in college. I view the WRs in this draft as 1. Blackmon, 2a. Floyd, and 2b. Jeffery.

The Cleveland Browns select WR Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina.

Direckshun
03-08-2012, 12:02 PM
The Browns got their QB in RGIII and some defensive help later in round 1. Now it's time to start surrounding RGIII with some weapons. Lamar Miller would be a good choice but I like a lot of RBs later in the draft.

Currently the Browns have Greg Little (who I like a lot), Mohammed Massaquoi (who should be primarily in the slot), and nothing else. Here's a guy who has, IMO, slipped off the radar a bit due to a less than impressive combine and playing in a run-first offense with garbage QBs in college. I view the WRs in this draft as 1. Blackmon, 2a. Floyd, and 2b. Jeffery.

The Cleveland Browns select WR Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina.

YOU MOTHER FUCKER.

Direckshun
03-08-2012, 12:04 PM
The Jags select TE Orson Charles, Georgia.

And are still smarting from losing outo n Jeffery.

SNR
03-08-2012, 12:07 PM
YOU MOTHER FUCKER.Cool it. Chastin West is ready to bust out this year.

Direckshun
03-08-2012, 12:09 PM
Cool it. Chastin West is ready to bust out this year.

:#

DeezNutz
03-08-2012, 12:46 PM
The Jags select TE Orson Charles, Georgia.

And are still smarting from losing outo n Jeffery.

I wouldn't worry too much, actually. Jeffery is just too fucking slow. David Boston 2.0, and I don't think he'll amount to much.

Now watch him blow up...

DaKCMan AP
03-08-2012, 12:48 PM
I wouldn't worry too much, actually. Jeffery is just too fucking slow. David Boston 2.0, and I don't think he'll amount to much.

Now watch him blow up...

David Boston was Awesome before he became a professional bodybuilder.

DeezNutz
03-08-2012, 12:50 PM
David Boston was Awesome before he became a professional bodybuilder.

I almost wrote SD Boston, which is what I see. I really think Jeffery is going to struggle getting separation, and he doesn't seem to play with the physicality of a Bowe (or another comp. who lacks elite speed).

Like I said, I could be wrong; it happened once before in '87.