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Groves
02-29-2012, 04:01 PM
Oldtimers: What was Chiefs planet like leading up to the Joe Montana signing? I can't even remember if CP existed then or not.

mikeyis4dcats.
02-29-2012, 04:02 PM
don't think it did

chefsos
02-29-2012, 04:02 PM
You should have seen it when Carl drafted Blackledge!

RockChalk
02-29-2012, 04:03 PM
People actually still chatted in person or on the phone, at that time.

mikeyis4dcats.
02-29-2012, 04:03 PM
doubt you'll find much....1993 was still the days of dial-up, DOS, and BBS.

listopencil
02-29-2012, 04:03 PM
Kansas City Chiefs

1993–1994

Joe Montana was traded to the Kansas City Chiefs in April 1993 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Kansas_City_Chiefs_season). His trade, along with the free-agent signing of star Los Angeles Raiders running back Marcus Allen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Allen) to the Chiefs, generated much media attention and excitement in Kansas City.

lazepoo
02-29-2012, 04:03 PM
ARPAnet was on fire though

Rain Man
02-29-2012, 04:04 PM
We were all writing notes and mailing them to austinchief, and he would then mimeograph them and mail them out to everybody. When Montana was signed he had to start sending posts in boxes via UPS. It was crazy.

Count Zarth
02-29-2012, 04:07 PM
I was pretty unbearable as a 12-year old troll.

cdcox
02-29-2012, 04:11 PM
When we won the Super Bowl my family communicated its thoughts and feelings to the outside world by standing on the front porch banging pots and pans and then going into the garage to honk the horn. Of course, my dad worked for IBM, so we were more technologically advanced than most families.

Deberg_1990
02-29-2012, 04:11 PM
Heres an old Milkman post from 1993:


"hate this trade, we should have drafted Stubblefield"

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=222907

ct
02-29-2012, 04:11 PM
Damnit Al Gore!!!

Groves
02-29-2012, 04:12 PM
We were all writing notes and mailing them to austinchief, and he would then mimeograph them and mail them out to everybody. When Montana was signed he had to start sending posts in boxes via UPS. It was crazy.

If they were fresh enough, did everyone sniff them until woozy, I assume?

KCUnited
02-29-2012, 04:13 PM
Notsureif4real

Rain Man
02-29-2012, 04:13 PM
If they were fresh enough, did everyone sniff them until woozy, I assume?

Well, of course. And to this day I always try to sniff new posts, just out of habit.

Fritz88
02-29-2012, 04:15 PM
I was pretty unbearable as a 12-year old troll.

http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/bald-fat-kid-eats-eggs.jpg

Guru
02-29-2012, 04:16 PM
Hell, was the Star board even going at that time?

wazu
02-29-2012, 04:17 PM
Not much to tell, really. Most of us were still young and hooked on Facebook.

ClevelandBronco
02-29-2012, 04:21 PM
When Montana signed what? Medicare Part B?

mlyonsd
02-29-2012, 04:22 PM
We were all writing notes and mailing them to austinchief, and he would then mimeograph them and mail them out to everybody. When Montana was signed he had to start sending posts in boxes via UPS. It was crazy.You should consider auditioning for SNL.

Bump
02-29-2012, 04:23 PM
I don't know, but that old newspaper thing got us all pretty excited.

Otter
02-29-2012, 04:28 PM
I was pretty unbearable as a 12-year old troll.

It still is.

3rd&48ers
02-29-2012, 04:29 PM
Oldtimers: What was Chiefs planet like leading up to the Joe Montana signing? I can't even remember if CP existed then or not.

Are you serious? LMAOLMAOLMAO

http://imthatold.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/etch-a-sketch-magic-screen.jpg

chiefs1111
02-29-2012, 04:30 PM
Mecca was pretty upset because Montana did not play QB at USC.

RockChalk
02-29-2012, 04:42 PM
Draftabulators went nuts. Couldn't understand how we gave up the 18th pick for a 36-yo QB. Hootie was particularly upset because he had the whole draft planned out for Carl that year. At the time, he believed his drafting skills alone would lead the organization to multiple super bowls.

Interesting NY Times article covering the trade.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/21/sports/pro-football-chiefs-and-49ers-come-to-terms-on-montana-trade-at-last.html

This quote alone should have caused Carl to cancel the trade: "Well, Kansas City to the Super Bowl," said a former 49ers linebacker, Matt Millen.

Otter
02-29-2012, 04:55 PM
AustinChief called everyone up with his high speed 56k modem to spread the news. Rumor has it Skip was on the phone for 20 minutes yelling at kids to stop prank calling him and trying to figure out if his cat was being murdered in a phone booth before he hung up.

bevischief
02-29-2012, 04:58 PM
Oldtimers: What was Chiefs planet like leading up to the Joe Montana signing? I can't even remember if CP existed then or not.

How old are you?

Groves
02-29-2012, 05:14 PM
How old are you?

I'm old enough to know that I worded the question poorly.

The last 15 years are a total non-drug induced blur, and the Montana year was towards the beginning of my Chiefs loyalty.

I don't know what technology people were using at the time, but what I'm after is the tone and tenor of the fanbase leading up to that decision and during it.

Does it mimic all the Manning talk now.

Did it takes years after the fact to start talking about how great it was that he led us to a playoff victory, rare as they are for us.

Similarities and Differences, etc.

Okie_Apparition
02-29-2012, 05:15 PM
People fanned themselves with the SI cover
at the public hanging of a chicken thief after church

boogblaster
02-29-2012, 05:16 PM
In truth he was done ... think Manning is too .. sorry ......

notorious
02-29-2012, 05:16 PM
Search Function.

Rain Man
02-29-2012, 05:19 PM
I'm old enough to know that I worded the question poorly.

The last 15 years are a total non-drug induced blur, and the Montana year was towards the beginning of my Chiefs loyalty.

I don't know what technology people were using at the time, but what I'm after is the tone and tenor of the fanbase leading up to that decision and during it.

Does it mimic all the Manning talk now.

Did it takes years after the fact to start talking about how great it was that he led us to a playoff victory, rare as they are for us.

Similarities and Differences, etc.

I was living in Texas at the time and had little contact with Chiefs fans. I also got little Chiefs news. Maybe it was in the rumor mill in KC, but in Austin I was floored when this trade happened. Floored and quite happy. It wasn't as if Montana was washed up when this occurred. The 49ers just had a younger Hall of Fame quarterback in line behind him, and Montana had had some injuries. To me, that situation is very similar to this one in that the question wasn't whether the player would be good, but whether he would be healthy.

I for one would welcome our new Manning overlords.

Buck
02-29-2012, 05:28 PM
It was like this.

http://gifsound.com/?gif=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gameinformer.com%2Fcfs-file.ashx%2F__key%2FCommunityServer-Discussions-Components-Files%2F14492%2F4265.3021.Slow_2D00_Clap.gif&sound=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DgsNaR6FRuO0&start=0

bevischief
02-29-2012, 05:31 PM
The 14.4K modems melted along with the server.

Sofa King
02-29-2012, 06:08 PM
The drafturbators were pissed we didn't draft Rick Mirer.

The true fans were pissed we didn't draft Elvis Grbac in the 8th round to be our QBOTF to "groom" and use our first rounder on Lber depth behind Derrick Thomas.

The rest were just happy to get a QB who wasn't a pile of shit for a change. It provided hope and a chance to actually win it all.

ferrarispider95
02-29-2012, 06:16 PM
"As a result, Policy and the 49ers were in no particular hurry to complete a deal, and it did not help that Peterson and Policy feuded last year because of a failed Derrick Thomas-for-Young trade. The holdup was a mere second-round pick in 1993. The 49ers had agreed to package Montana and Whitmore for the Chiefs' first-round pick, but the Chiefs wanted that second-round pick and the 49ers wanted to give only a fourth-round pick."

From the article posted above, it is not real clear, was Peterson trying to trade DT for Steve Young before Montana came??? It makes reference to it, and then talks about the Montana trade.

Rain Man
02-29-2012, 06:21 PM
"As a result, Policy and the 49ers were in no particular hurry to complete a deal, and it did not help that Peterson and Policy feuded last year because of a failed Derrick Thomas-for-Young trade. The holdup was a mere second-round pick in 1993. The 49ers had agreed to package Montana and Whitmore for the Chiefs' first-round pick, but the Chiefs wanted that second-round pick and the 49ers wanted to give only a fourth-round pick."

From the article posted above, it is not real clear, was Peterson trying to trade DT for Steve Young before Montana came??? It makes reference to it, and then talks about the Montana trade.

I'm looking at this post like those people looked at the alien ships in Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

What is this? What article? This is huge. Why have I never been told about this? Thomas for Young would've been the blockbuster of all blockbusters.

Sofa King
02-29-2012, 06:26 PM
How has that never been heard before?

bevischief
02-29-2012, 06:33 PM
How has that never been heard before?

Drugs...

splatbass
02-29-2012, 06:35 PM
I was pretty unbearable as a 12-year old troll.

Why are you talking about last year?

bevischief
02-29-2012, 06:37 PM
Turn your computer off and look at a blank screen.

The Iron Chief
02-29-2012, 06:38 PM
Oldtimers: What was Chiefs planet like leading up to the Joe Montana signing? I can't even remember if CP existed then or not.

Hell My question what was CP like when we won the SB?
I was only 4... :p

stonedstooge
02-29-2012, 06:44 PM
Hell My question what was CP like when we won the SB?
I was only 4... :p

Life was still in black and white televisions in those days

mlyonsd
02-29-2012, 06:45 PM
Hell My question what was CP like when we won the SB?
I was only 4... :p

I was in 4th grade and the rest of the class was viking fans. Our teacher let us make 25 cent bets and keep track of them on one of the blackboards.

I made something like $4 if I remember right.

Frazod
02-29-2012, 06:48 PM
That's so long ago I wasn't even a n00b yet.

Deberg_1990
02-29-2012, 06:49 PM
Holy Cow, the Chiefs might have won 2 ships, 95 and 97 had Young been our QB.

whoman69
02-29-2012, 06:51 PM
I was pretty unbearable as a 12-year old troll.

You still are.

whoman69
02-29-2012, 06:55 PM
Life was still in black and white televisions in those days

We had color.

stonedstooge
02-29-2012, 06:56 PM
We had color.

My old man was too cheap to get a color tv until 74 or so in my family

RockChalk
02-29-2012, 07:05 PM
"As a result, Policy and the 49ers were in no particular hurry to complete a deal, and it did not help that Peterson and Policy feuded last year because of a failed Derrick Thomas-for-Young trade. The holdup was a mere second-round pick in 1993. The 49ers had agreed to package Montana and Whitmore for the Chiefs' first-round pick, but the Chiefs wanted that second-round pick and the 49ers wanted to give only a fourth-round pick."

From the article posted above, it is not real clear, was Peterson trying to trade DT for Steve Young before Montana came??? It makes reference to it, and then talks about the Montana trade.

link?

chefsos
02-29-2012, 07:10 PM
link?Ahhhhh...

seclark
02-29-2012, 07:20 PM
i think i was connecting w/a 300/1200 baud at the time, but i honestly think i heard about it on kc talk radio. 810, but it wasn't kk and his band of merry dog-nuts. i'm thinking it was kcmo and whoever the host was, i'm thinking he was an ex-nfl player.
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dobler?

Saul Good
02-29-2012, 07:25 PM
We were all writing notes and mailing them to austinchief, and he would then mimeograph them and mail them out to everybody. When Montana was signed he had to start sending posts in boxes via UPS. It was crazy.

I remember when MontanaChiefsFan invented the flame war.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/gardensk8/unibomber.jpg

Epic Fail 007
02-29-2012, 07:27 PM
Lol I was not on the internet then.

ChiefsCountry
02-29-2012, 07:28 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/archive/index.php/t-206493.html

Mr. Arrowhead
02-29-2012, 07:45 PM
Dam I bet this place went nutz when we won Super Bowl 4

ferrarispider95
02-29-2012, 08:27 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/21/sp...e-at-last.html


No disrespect to DT, but we would had multiple superbowls with Young. Our defense had enough other talent to get it done.

Red Beans
02-29-2012, 08:30 PM
I was pretty unbearable as a 12-year old troll.

I fail to comprehend how there might be a difference.

"Bob" Dobbs
02-29-2012, 08:36 PM
i think i was connecting w/a 300/1200 baud at the time, but i honestly think i heard about it on kc talk radio. 810, but it wasn't kk and his band of merry dog-nuts. i'm thinking it was kcmo and whoever the host was, i'm thinking he was an ex-nfl player.
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dobler?wasn't Don Fortune pretty much the KC sports talk king then?
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Demonpenz
02-29-2012, 08:41 PM
i remember getting 10 free hours of aol just to go to webcrawler.com and talk shit!

Demonpenz
02-29-2012, 08:42 PM
what was chiefsplanet like back then? I dunno...askjeeves!

milkman
02-29-2012, 08:48 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/21/sp...e-at-last.html


No disrespect to DT, but we would had multiple superbowls with Young. Our defense had enough other talent to get it done.

While I agree that Young could potentailly have taken the Cheifs to the SB, remember it took him a couple of years after taking over for Montana to become a pocket passer with good coaching.

Would he have gotten there with the coaching in KC?

You also have to remember that the Chiefs defense was pretty good before DT was drafted, but he took it to another level, not only with his play, but with his infectious energy and enthusiasm.

RJ
02-29-2012, 08:49 PM
I remember it well. I first learned of the Montana signing via a signal beacon on the Western horizon. Several days later a rider came through bringing us the contract details and selling jerseys.


http://i44.tinypic.com/nqs61.jpg

Count Zarth
02-29-2012, 08:52 PM
The archives are a bit spooky:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=183274&postcount=2


Manning might be the second comming of Montana-with a stronger arm!

KILLER_CLOWN
02-29-2012, 08:53 PM
It was off the Chain around here when we signed Joe, i believe we had a 2 million page thread about it. (digs through the archives)

Easy 6
02-29-2012, 09:07 PM
Aaah yes, the halcyon days.

An aging hall of famer living up to the hype on a new team, he made a winner out of rock solid Marcus Allen and then a bunch of #2 guys on offense save a few linemen... making hay with Keith Cash & JJ Birden.

A winner at that position changes everything.

Okie_Apparition
02-29-2012, 09:12 PM
http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii562/Okie_Apparition/Untitled.jpg

Count Zarth
02-29-2012, 09:17 PM
Hidden meanings in those hieroglyphics.

The vulture is clearly Carl, picking over the rotting meat of other franchises.

The snake is Carmen Policy, hoodwinking Carl out of a 1st round pick for a busted old QB. We can clearly see the snake's "hook" out as he sneaks up on the vulture, who is unaware (back turned) and instead more concerned with the magnet (Montana trade) for season ticket sales.

In the second line, the hook moves on and snares the fan base (^^^^^^) into an evil cauldron of false football glory.

In the last frame, we see the beginning and end of Montana's career. He starts out as a proud bird of prey, and the spring chickens on the Chiefs are clearly amazed at his prowess. The fanbase is excited again. Then they hit a bump in the road (Montana bumping his head off the frozen Buffalo turf). The fans, palms out, exclaim WTF IS GOING ON!

The fanbase remains excited in Montana's second season, only to see us finish 9-7 and lose in the first round. WTF IS GOING ON, says the palm, and Montana's career is finished.

I don't know what the little gray knife thing is. Some things get lost in the translation. I can theorize that it might represent me, because Montana drew me to the Chiefs, and clearly I am important so I would be included in this prophetic hieroglyphic.

lcarus
02-29-2012, 11:24 PM
This place was too busy calling out the GM of Matt Cassel's peewee team demanding that they start baby Stanzi. That bastard peewee team could never develop their own qb directly outta the womb! Couldnt win with those retread 10 year olds either

big nasty kcnut
03-01-2012, 04:43 AM
I think i type it on my typewriter then send it to austin chief who sent my reply to folks and then he sent me the reply of everybody else. hated the reply from that guy sending me a pic of him sucking on a big ol chilli dog.

Ultra Peanut
03-01-2012, 05:01 AM
I cannot even imagine ChiefsPlanet circa 1993.

oh god i started posting here eleven years ago fuckkkkkkkkk