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GoHuge
03-01-2012, 03:55 PM
Perfectly laid out and plausible explanation of why it could/should happen, but...........yeah you know. Pioli=:harumph:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyton-manning-three-teams-who-make-perfect-sense-030112

The Indianapolis Colts hold the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the first time they have held the No. 1 overall pick since . . . Peyton Manning.

Manning was the top pick in the 1998 draft, also the first Colts draft orchestrated by Bill Polian. The Colts went 3-13 in Manning and Polianís inaugural season, but they had an NFL-record turnaround in Year 2, going 13-3. And they never looked back. Until now.

One by one, the Colts' staff was ripped apart. It started on Nov. 29, when the Colts fired defensive coordinator Larry Coyer. Then, on Jan. 2, the Colts announced the firing of both Bill Polian and his son Chris Polian, the general manager. Shortly after hiring the Eaglesí director of player personnel, Ryan Grigson, as new GM, the Colts then fired head coach Jim Caldwell. Now, with medical questions looming and a potential future franchise quarterback landing in their laps, the Colts appear ready to finalize the rebuilding process by cutting ties with Manning.

Assuming the Colts start from scratch, it will provide another franchise the opportunity to add the final piece to a Super Bowl-contending roster. Manning will still need to clear medically, but letís assume that he will, because if he doesnít, then this is all for naught anyway. If healthy, Manning will be the most sought-after free-agent since Reggie White and could be reminiscent of Joe Montana leaving San Francisco, albeit via trade, to lead the Kansas City Chiefs to an AFC Championship Game appearance the very next year.

The franchise that acquires Manning must be aware of what they are getting. Similar to the Montana trade, the Chiefs knew they were only getting a short-term fix, a Band-Aid, rather than a long-term solution. I refer to this as ďrentingĒ a franchise quarterback.

Ideally, the 35-year-old Manning will give you three years of solid play. That is assuming he can avoid future injuries and deal with his degenerative nerve issue. Montana was able to play only two seasons in Kansas City before retiring. Brett Favre, rented by both the Jets and Vikings, had only three seasons left in his aging arm after he left the Packers. So if Manningís Band-Aid can stick for even three years, his future team should be satisfied.

It is also important to note that you not only are renting Manningís arm, but you also rent what equates to a brand-new offensive coordinator and playbook. Letís face it: Manning isnít going to learn a brand-new offense at this point in his career, nor should he have to. He will bring his offense, his verbiage, his audible package, and might even bring his favorite receiver wherever he signs.

This might actually be a bigger turnoff than turn-on ó not only would you be applying a Band-Aid as a short-term fix, but you are also potentially setting your franchise back by putting aside your own offensive scheme to run an entirely different one during the Manning years. When the Chiefs brought in Montana, they installed his offense and made it to the AFC Championship Game in 1993 and another playoff appearance in 1994, but the Chiefs havenít won a playoff game since. Montana was good in the short term, but might have derailed the long-term outlook. That will be a major factor for the potential suitors in the Manning sweepstakes.


Seattle limped through the season with Tarvaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst at quarterback. Although the Seahawks showed gradual improvement throughout the season, they never truly had an offensive identity. Marshawn Lynch provides a steady running game, and the presence of Manning at quarterback would give them a balanced attack that would only make Lynch more successful. After spending their first two draft picks in last yearís draft on offensive linemen, this is, obviously, the strength of their team.

The Seahawksí ability to keep Manning upright will be very attractive to a quarterback who is very much a pocket passer. Seattle doesnít necessarily have the wide receivers the others have, but with the possible addition of Reggie Wayne and a healthy Sidney Rice, they would be good enough.

As for the Chiefs, they would need to improve their offensive line, but they have a great roster of skill players who would be very attractive to Manning. I believe they will get Dwayne Bowe re-signed. And when they do, they will have Bowe and Jon Baldwin on the outside, with Steve Breaston in the slot. After sitting out all of last season, tight end Tony Moeaki will return to the lineup and add another dimension to the offense.

Additionally, running back Jamaal Charles will return after missing the majority of last season, which would give Manning the Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai type of presence that he has come to lean on at running back. But maybe most important for the Chiefs, after firing the offensive-minded Todd Haley and the ensuing retirement of last yearís offensive coordinator, Bill Muir, they havenít yet installed a new offensive scheme. Brian Daboll, formerly of the Dolphins, is the new offensive coordinator but would be most willing to take on Manning and his entire offense.

The New York Jets make sense simply because of Rex Ryanís willingness to do anything to win. Even with the recent hire of Tony Sparano as offensive coordinator and the thought that he would bring a toughness and focus to the run game, I wouldnít be surprised if Ryan pulled an entire 180 and rented Manning for three years.

In the city of New York, where the Jets and Giants are always fighting for bragging rights, this would give Ryan the prime opportunity to steal the spotlight from the Giants after their Super Bowl championship and give Jets fans hope for near-term success. Letís not forget, aside from Mark Brunell, Mark Sanchez has never had the opportunity to learn from an established veteran quarterback. The opportunity to observe Manning both on the practice field and in the film room would be invaluable to his development. Sanchez could still be the future of the franchise but be groomed and grow into that role rather than be thrust into it.

talastan
03-01-2012, 03:55 PM
Interesting....:hmmm:

Sofa King
03-01-2012, 04:15 PM
Q

Sofa King
03-02-2012, 03:53 PM
This thread sucks.

Dicky McElephant
03-02-2012, 03:53 PM
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Mr_Tomahawk
03-02-2012, 03:54 PM
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pr_capone
03-02-2012, 03:54 PM
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Sofa King
03-02-2012, 03:56 PM
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hahahaha. That caption is perfect.

Detoxing
03-02-2012, 03:56 PM
OH SHIT! WHICH DO I POST IN??? I IS SO CONFUUUUUSED!!111

Okie_Apparition
03-02-2012, 03:59 PM
Could Brian Schottenheimer kill Peyton
that'd be damn fine tv
:facepalm: damnit

The Bad Guy
03-02-2012, 04:01 PM
Why do the Chiefs need to upgrade the line with Manning? Manning's lines in Indy were dogshit.

Mr_Tomahawk
03-02-2012, 04:02 PM
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bishop_74
03-02-2012, 04:08 PM
You can't spell "vagina" without "agin"...

BossChief
03-02-2012, 04:34 PM
Why do the Chiefs need to upgrade the line with Manning? Manning's lines in Indy were dogshit.

Neck

Frankie
03-02-2012, 04:44 PM
As for the Chiefs, they would need to improve their offensive line, but they have a great roster of skill players who would be very attractive to Manning. I believe they will get Dwayne Bowe re-signed. And when they do, they will have Bowe and Jon Baldwin on the outside, with Steve Breaston in the slot. After sitting out all of last season, tight end Tony Moeaki will return to the lineup and add another dimension to the offense.
Well maybe we should sign Dallas Clark so Peyton feels at home and complete our Hawkeye TE force.

The Bad Guy
03-02-2012, 04:48 PM
Neck

He's going to get hit regardless. The Chiefs don't have to go out and get an all-world oline for a QB who makes quick reads.

O.city
03-02-2012, 04:51 PM
So if Manning comes on board, do we go RT in round one?


Reiff maybe?

Mr. Laz
03-02-2012, 04:53 PM
Why do the Chiefs need to upgrade the line with Manning? Manning's lines in Indy were dogshit.

because we will want our fragile pro bowl Quarterback to have time to do his thing AND to take as few hits as possible.

O.city
03-02-2012, 04:54 PM
I'd still ike to see us take Richardson in the first if he's available. Get a RT in round two.

Mr. Laz
03-02-2012, 04:58 PM
I'd still ike to see us take Richardson in the first if he's available. Get a RT in round two.
that works ... i still want us to try and get something out of Carr as well

Manning might ask for us to sign Saturday at center which means Hudson goes competes at LG.

then it's really only RT

Frankie
03-02-2012, 05:00 PM
Isn't Saturday retiring?

htismaqe
03-02-2012, 05:15 PM
I'd still ike to see us take Richardson in the first if he's available. Get a RT in round two.

If we address the QB position with Manning, I'd take Richardson in a heartbeat.

If we're going into the season with Orton or Cassel, I'm not taking Richardson.

htismaqe
03-02-2012, 05:16 PM
Neck

Is less susceptible to injury now than before he hurt it.

Frankie
03-02-2012, 05:39 PM
Is less susceptible to injury now than before he hurt it.

Que?

pr_capone
03-02-2012, 05:48 PM
IF we pick up manning, I would like to see the following.

Trade out of 11 down to 19-22 and pick up an extra 3rd.

Draft:

1. Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin (putting Hudson at G)
2. Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington
3a. Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
3b. Mitchell Schwartz, (R)OT, California

/tried it on Madden and it worked

aturnis
03-02-2012, 07:52 PM
IF we pick up manning, I would like to see the following.

Trade out of 11 down to 19-22 and pick up an extra 3rd.

Draft:

1. Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin (putting Hudson at G)
2. Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington
3a. Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
3b. Mitchell Schwartz, (R)OT, California

/tried it on Madden and it worked

Foles doesn't bring anything more than what Stanzi does. Probably less. Wouldn't mind a long shot later on, like Lindley.

BossChief
03-02-2012, 08:15 PM
Is less susceptible to injury now than before he hurt it.

That true, but it's also true that teams will be wending the blitz with some consistency until Peyton shows he can still handle it with quick decisions and getting the ball out fast.

Our receivers would be learning a new playbook, offense and other factors that would take a little time to get up to speed on.

If we sign RGIII, and I've said this a few times, my 1a pick is Trent Richardson...1b is Reiff.

If Reiff AND Richardson are both gone, trade down and add a future first and a late first this year.

I wouldn't be shocked if Pittsburgh wants to move up to take Trent Richardson with Mendenhall possibly missing all of next year to injury.

That would probably be my perfect scenario.

Trade down adding a future first rounder while still having a first rounder this year.

If we can't get a blue chipper, I think we can improve this team just as much with a guy that would be there at Pittsburghs pick as we could by sitting at 11 and picking someone there....plus it would give us a future pick.

I really hope these guys aren't setting us up for another fall.

BossChief
03-02-2012, 08:20 PM
Nice one, flop.

CoMoChief
03-02-2012, 08:34 PM
Additionally, running back Jamaal Charles will return after missing the majority of last season, which would give RGIII the Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai type of presence that he has come to lean on at running back.


Someone at Foxsports sucks at editing, or doesn't know anything about the NFL.

Cannibal
03-02-2012, 09:01 PM
I'd rather have RGIII, but I like the rationale behind this.

Phobia
03-02-2012, 09:15 PM
Additionally, running back Jamaal Charles will return after missing the majority of last season, which would give RGIII the Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai type of presence that he has come to lean on at running back.


Someone at Foxsports sucks at editing, or doesn't know anything about the NFL.
Heh. There was a filter for about an hour replacing "Manning" with "RGIII".

Trevo_410
03-02-2012, 09:19 PM
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Dylan
03-03-2012, 12:52 AM
In the city of New York, where the Jets and Giants are always fighting for bragging rights, this would give Ryan the prime opportunity to steal the spotlight from the Giants after their Super Bowl championship and give Jets fans hope for near-term success. Letís not forget, aside from Mark Brunell, Mark Sanchez has never had the opportunity to learn from an established veteran quarterback. The opportunity to observe Manning both on the practice field and in the film room would be invaluable to his development. Sanchez could still be the future of the franchise but be groomed and grow into that role rather than be thrust into it.

Why is Brian Billick on the record saying "the Jets and Giants are always fighting for bragging rights?" The Giants never use that cliche. Billick is not the sports journalist type, i.e. who keeps sports departments afloat.

For example, on Christmas Eve in 2011, the teams would play the only memorable game since the NFL-AFL merger in 1969, in which the losing team would be eliminated from the playoffs.

The Giants and Jets will meet again in 2015 and every four or five years after that. It will take more than one game for the Jets to be on an equal playing field.

Rex Ryan's intentions to make the Jets the favored team in this town without having to actually earn it blew up in his face.

Billick is a dumbass -- Enough said.