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Rain Man
03-03-2012, 08:26 AM
Hi there,

Long time listener, first time caller.

I have a 2000 BMW Z3. I took it into the dealer a couple of days ago because a turn signal light was out and apparently they have to order this particular light bulb from some remote village in Bavaria.

So they replace the light bulb, and as I'm getting back into the car I remember this weird intermittent problem with my door handle. Sometimes when you try to open the door it's as if the door handle is locked. The door won't open, though you can hear a slight clunk that you don't hear when it's locked. When it happens, you just try again and it almost always opens the second time.

So they tell me that they'll have to open up the door to check it out and I have to leave the car for a day. They look and can't figure out what's wrong with it, which doesn't overly surprise me since it's intermittent. They tell me they can replace the entire assembly for $650, but I take a pass on that. I'll keep the $650 and have the intermittent door problem.

My wife went to pick the car up, and their practice is to drive the car from the service area to the customer area, and she gets it from there. So she never started the car and just drove straight home.

Now it's the next morning, and the car won't start. It seems like it might be a dead battery. It makes a series of clicks, and while they don't sound like the clicks I've heard in other dead batteries, maybe it's just a BMW thing.

So my questions are:

1. Is it possible that my wife is cheating on me with the BMW service guy?

2. Would you disconnect the electrical power and/or battery to open up the door to check the handle, and would there be anything associated with that (or the light bulb) that could cause a bad connection or an improperly reattached connection? I find it odd that that battery dies immediately after they service it and am wondering if it's not really dead.

3. Should we sign Peyton Manning or trade up for RGIII?

L.A. Chieffan
03-03-2012, 08:28 AM
No
antifreeze
Cassel

Bane
03-03-2012, 08:29 AM
Yes
Yes
Both.

Baconeater
03-03-2012, 08:42 AM
Guarantee it.
Check the battery connections to see if they're loose.
Manning.

Rain Man
03-03-2012, 09:19 AM
As an update, the tow truck guy immediately jump-started the car, so it's definitely the battery being dead as opposed to a loose connection. We drove to the local gas station/repair shop to see if they can get the battery (apparently it's not a run of the mill battery) and that guy couldn't even understand what a battery was, so my wife offered to take the car on to the dealership without me since I'm working on a work deadline. And Manning is throwing well in private workouts.

So I've concluded that:

a) my wife is cheating on me with the BMW service guy.

b) the battery is probably 5 or 6 years old and started with the jump, so maybe it's just a dead battery. The timing is odd, though. I bet they were using my headlights at the dealership to do puppet shows or something.

c) Manning would be a good fit.

d) There's a reason I stopped taking my car to the local repair shop, and now I remember why.

Tombstone RJ
03-03-2012, 09:21 AM
Guarantee it.
Check the battery connections to see if they're loose.
Manning.

this, check the terminal connections they might be loose.

Bwana
03-03-2012, 09:22 AM
this, check the terminal connections they might be loose.

Yep and clean them and the posts, if dirty. Baking soda and water work well.

Radar Chief
03-03-2012, 09:27 AM
Your dingle arm is missaligned with your marsen veins causing interference with your lunar wayne shaft. Get it taken care of before you blow a rod, cause I'm pretty sure you don't want to do that.

Bwana
03-03-2012, 09:30 AM
Your dingle arm is missaligned with your marsen veins causing interference with your lunar wayne shaft. Get it taken care of before you blow a rod, cause I'm pretty sure you don't want to do that.

NTTAWWT

Rain Man
03-03-2012, 09:33 AM
Your dingle arm is missaligned with your marsen veins causing interference with your lunar wayne shaft. Get it taken care of before you blow a rod, cause I'm pretty sure you don't want to do that.

That's exactly what the dealership said when they called. The bummer is that it's going to cost me almost $4,000 and on top of that my wife and the service dealer are going to have to go to Aruba to pick up the part. Apparently there's only one company in the world that makes them, and they require the owner and service dealer to go there together to pick it up. What a pain in the neck.

Fritz88
03-03-2012, 09:33 AM
We already have a Carr problem

CrazyHorse
03-03-2012, 10:09 AM
As an update, the tow truck guy immediately jump-started the car, so it's definitely the battery being dead as opposed to a loose connection. We drove to the local gas station/repair shop to see if they can get the battery (apparently it's not a run of the mill battery) and that guy couldn't even understand what a battery was, so my wife offered to take the car on to the dealership without me since I'm working on a work deadline. And Manning is throwing well in private workouts.

So I've concluded that:

a) my wife is cheating on me with the BMW service guy.

b) the battery is probably 5 or 6 years old and started with the jump, so maybe it's just a dead battery. The timing is odd, though. I bet they were using my headlights at the dealership to do puppet shows or something.

c) Manning would be a good fit.

d) There's a reason I stopped taking my car to the local repair shop, and now I remember why.

Just because it would take a jump dont mean the battery is dead. Its probably still the connection. They likely disconeccted the battery in order to reset the system. They probably just didnt get a good enough connection when they hooked it back up. A battery with a bad connection will often times still take a jump for whatever reason.

If you still think its the battery, get it tested. Its freee at many auto parts houses. Once you buy the battery and hook it up, you own it. No refunds.

Hog Farmer
03-03-2012, 10:38 AM
I had to replace the door handle on my F250 last week. So I pulled up a youtube on how to do this feat. To remove the indoor panel the switches had to be disconnected so they reccommended disconnecting the battery. I didn't disconnect it because I'm always in a hurry but it was recommended.

Baconeater
03-03-2012, 10:40 AM
If the battery is 5 or 6 years old it's on borrowed time if it's not already bad. Replace the friggin' thing.

Gonzo
03-03-2012, 10:53 AM
Battery is dead because the tech left the key on while screwing around with the door locks. It might just need a charge but replace it if you can afford it.

Secondly, the door locks operate on a rod/pulley system and are connected to a motor. Likely the small plastic rod connectors are worn out and have some slop so they don't function correctly 100% of the time.
Either that or the swivel points need to be lubricated with white grease or graphite lube. Sauto would be a good guy to hit up for some pointers on this as well.
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Rain Man
03-03-2012, 11:21 AM
Battery is dead because the tech left the key on while screwing around with the door locks. It might just need a charge but replace it if you can afford it.

Secondly, the door locks operate on a rod/pulley system and are connected to a motor. Likely the small plastic rod connectors are worn out and have some slop so they don't function correctly 100% of the time.
Either that or the swivel points need to be lubricated with white grease or graphite lube. Sauto would be a good guy to hit up for some pointers on this as well.
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Dang. I might fly you out to give me and estimate and fix it. It'd still probably be cheaper than the BMW dealership.

Wife is still at the dealership with the car. I'm really hoping they don't talk her into replacing that dingle arm that radar chief was referencing.

Sounds like it might be a good idea to replace the battery based on what I'm hearing. I didn't really know how long they were supposed to last and we've never had trouble, so it's good to learn these things.

Rain Man
03-03-2012, 11:22 AM
Thanks to everyone. You'll find a little something extra in your rep paycheck this month.

Baconeater
03-03-2012, 11:25 AM
Dang. I might fly you out to give me and estimate and fix it. It'd still probably be cheaper than the BMW dealership.

Wife is still at the dealership with the car. I'm really hoping they don't talk her into replacing that dingle arm that radar chief was referencing.

Sounds like it might be a good idea to replace the battery based on what I'm hearing. I didn't really know how long they were supposed to last and we've never had trouble, so it's good to learn these things.
Seems anymore that I'm lucky to get 3 years out of one. I know you don't drive very much but the battery is one of those things that goes bad over time regardless of how much it is used.

Saul Good
03-03-2012, 11:26 AM
Haave you tried painting it a feminine color with a fruity name like tangerine or apricot?

ClevelandBronco
03-03-2012, 12:39 PM
I have about 150 Car Talk podcasts but no way to sort them by problem addressed. Let me know where to send them.

And it wouldn't matter if you traded up for Jim Thorpe if Romeo Crennel is your head coach.