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Mr. Laz
03-04-2012, 12:08 PM
Mort on Espn was talking about Manning like he is regaining his arm strength really quick now. He is working out 4/5 days a week and is even wearing pads. Also claims that source is not from Manning camp.

now he's talking like there is a chance that colts might even pay the bonus and keep him.

:cuss:

even if the colts don't keep him it will drive the price up for him.

Crush
03-04-2012, 12:11 PM
Irsay has already burned the bridge. He's gone.

bevischief
03-04-2012, 12:15 PM
Like I have been saying...

SNR
03-04-2012, 12:17 PM
Peyton's a colt. He needs wide open spaces to roam free.

Claynus
03-04-2012, 12:21 PM
Peyton's not going back to Indy. He wants to fuck them up for their betrayal. Besides, why would he play behind that shit line.

Okie_Apparition
03-04-2012, 12:25 PM
Irsay & Peyton, A war of attention whores
All the internet should know how this ends

Chiefs Pantalones
03-04-2012, 12:29 PM
I really think this is all a waste of time, KC is not in his sight and Pioli is married to Cassel. Manning, RG3...both a pipe dream.

Epic Fail 007
03-04-2012, 12:29 PM
no way they will invest over 50 mil just in the qb position

Chiefs Pantalones
03-04-2012, 12:32 PM
no way they will invest over 50 mil just in the qb position

Why not? Irsay has been doing that with Manning alone since they drafted him. So now it'll be split between two QBs.

Epic Fail 007
03-04-2012, 12:33 PM
manning will be released watch ,they are are already divorced it just needs to be fanalized.

milkman
03-04-2012, 12:38 PM
I was listening to an interview with a former basketball player (can't remember who) who apparently had the same issue as Manning.

He said that he went for months with seemingly no improvement, then suddenly it regenerated at an incredible rate.

Sounds like this is where Manning is at in his recuperation now.

Epic Fail 007
03-04-2012, 12:40 PM
Why not? Irsay has been doing that with Manning alone since they drafted him. So now it'll be split between two QBs.

Ok fair point but why would peyton want to stay in a rebuilding situation? I mean they are years away. He wants another sb he sure is not going to get it with the colts anytime soon. Whether its here or some other team I think he will be elsewhere in 2012.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-04-2012, 12:40 PM
I was listening to an interview with a former basketball player (can't remember who) who apparently had the same issue as Manning.

He said that he went for months with seemingly no improvement, then suddenly it regenerated at an incredible rate.

Sounds like this is where Manning is at in his recuperation now.

Would you sign him? I know how you felt about Montana. Same thing? I don't think it matters anyway as Cassel is Pioli's lover.

beach tribe
03-04-2012, 12:42 PM
Why not? Irsay has been doing that with Manning alone since they drafted him. So now it'll be split between two QBs.

They are not paying the roster bonus, and if Peyton feels he healthy he's not going to restructure with them. He wants to stick it to Irsay.
That only leaves a cpl options for him, and we are indeed one of them.

Fritz88
03-04-2012, 12:47 PM
Would you sign him? I know how you felt about Montana. Same thing? I don't think it matters anyway as Cassel is Pioli's lover.

I would.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-04-2012, 12:50 PM
I really think this is all a waste of time, KC is not in his sight and Pioli is married to Cassel. Manning, RG3...both a pipe dream.

It's dumb, stop posting this.

milkman
03-04-2012, 12:52 PM
Would you sign him? I know how you felt about Montana. Same thing? I don't think it matters anyway as Cassel is Pioli's lover.

My problem with Montana wasn't the trade for Montana, if and of itself.

It was the fact that Carl made no real attmept to address the position long term.

Monatana gave the Chiefs a 2 year window, and that was shortsighted on Carl's part.

I knew the moment the trade was consumated that in 3 years or fewer, we'd be back to signing scrubs and rejects to fill the position.

KurtCobain
03-04-2012, 12:53 PM
What day do they owe him the money?

Epic Fail 007
03-04-2012, 12:53 PM
No no, Pioli is not as in love with cassel as many of you seem to think . Not anymore.

Cheater5
03-04-2012, 12:54 PM
I really think this is all a waste of time, KC is not in his sight and Pioli is married to Cassel. Manning, RG3...both a pipe dream.

Pretty much.

Pretty much agree with this.

-King-
03-04-2012, 12:54 PM
What day do they owe him the money?

8th
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Mr. Laz
03-04-2012, 12:54 PM
What day do they owe him the money?
March 7th iirc

No no, Pioli is not as in love with cassel as many of you seem to think . Not anymore.

nobody knows what he is, we just have to wait

BigMeatballDave
03-04-2012, 12:55 PM
I seriously doubt Manning wants to stay in Indy.

The Colts aren't winning anything anytime soon.

I don't think Manning is looking for a HUGE contract.

Surely he'd want to go someplace where he can win now.

Epic Fail 007
03-04-2012, 12:55 PM
No Vanilla I don`t feel its a pipe dream. Not at all.

Thig Lyfe
03-04-2012, 12:57 PM
I read a thread that said KC is a perfect fit for Peyton Manning. Can't find it though.

Epic Fail 007
03-04-2012, 12:57 PM
I seriously doubt Manning wants to stay in Indy.

The Colts aren't winning anything anytime soon.

I don't think Manning is looking for a HUGE contract.

Surely he'd want to go someplace where he can win now.

Yes Dave exactly! :clap:

Chiefs Pantalones
03-04-2012, 12:58 PM
I just haven't heard anything concrete to prove otherwise. I wouldn't mind signing him I'm just going by what Pioli and ESPN have said.

Chiefshrink
03-04-2012, 01:08 PM
My problem with Montana wasn't the trade for Montana, if and of itself.

It was the fact that Carl made no real attmept to address the position long term.

Monatana gave the Chiefs a 2 year window, and that was shortsighted on Carl's part.

I knew the moment the trade was consumated that in 3 years or fewer, we'd be back to signing scrubs and rejects to fill the position.

So you would sign Manning if Pioli plans for the QBOTF?

Mr. Laz
03-04-2012, 01:13 PM
I just haven't heard anything concrete to prove otherwise. I wouldn't mind signing him I'm just going by what Pioli and ESPN have said.

Espn is going by what Pioli has said publicly in interviews.

What else is Pioli supposed to say in front the cameras?

Do you believe the dreaded vote of confidence too?

milkman
03-04-2012, 01:21 PM
March 7th iic

The 8th.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-04-2012, 01:23 PM
Espn is going by what Pioli has said publicly in interviews.

What else is Pioli supposed to say in front the cameras?

Do you believe the dreaded vote of confidence too?

No I don't believe in the vote of confidence. I'm just going with the flow and the flow doesn't lead to a Cassel-less Chiefs at the moment. As with everything, actions will show us what's up in a week.

milkman
03-04-2012, 01:24 PM
So you would sign Manning if Pioli plans for the QBOTF?

There's a thread started by DeetzNut about this.

In that thread, I am clear on this.

If Pioli signs Manning, and drafts a QB in the first round to prepare for the future, I am fully on board, even though I still believe Manning is a playoff choker.

Mr. Laz
03-04-2012, 01:25 PM
No I don't believe in the vote of confidence. I'm just going with the flow and the flow doesn't lead to a Cassel-less Chiefs at the moment. As with everything, actions will show us what's up in a week.
we just don't know yet.

Chiefshrink
03-04-2012, 01:28 PM
There's a thread started by DeetzNut about this.

In that thread, I am clear on this.

If Pioli signs Manning, and drafts a QB in the first round to prepare for the future, I am fully on board, even though I still believe Manning is a playoff choker.

Fair enough. With that being said. Do we have enough ammo to do both this year IYO(in your opinion)?

milkman
03-04-2012, 01:33 PM
Fair enough. With that being said. Do we have enough ammo to do both this year IYO(in your opinion)?

If we signed Manning, I'd be content to wait for next year's draft.

But it must be done then.

BigMeatballDave
03-04-2012, 01:35 PM
There's a thread started by DeetzNut about this.

In that thread, I am clear on this.

If Pioli signs Manning, and drafts a QB in the first round to prepare for the future, I am fully on board, even though I still believe Manning is a playoff choker.

What if the Chiefs don't have a shot at a QB in the 1st?

After Tannehill, no other QB is worthy of a 1st rd pick.

Tannehill isn't worth trading up for.

Mojo Jojo
03-04-2012, 01:38 PM
Just a general observation/question...Payton wants to go to a team that will also bring in Reggie Wayne...how do the Chiefs respond to that request? They franchised a WR for 2012...used their #1 pick in 2011 on a WR and brought in a good WR in free agency in 2011. Where would Wayne fit and how much money are the Chiefs going to put into WR?

O.city
03-04-2012, 01:40 PM
If Wayne wants to take a pay cut to come here fine.

whoman69
03-04-2012, 01:55 PM
What if the Chiefs don't have a shot at a QB in the 1st?

After Tannehill, no other QB is worthy of a 1st rd pick.

Tannehill isn't worth trading up for.

IMO Tannehill isn't worth a 1st.

whoman69
03-04-2012, 01:55 PM
Just a general observation/question...Payton wants to go to a team that will also bring in Reggie Wayne...how do the Chiefs respond to that request? They franchised a WR for 2012...used their #1 pick in 2011 on a WR and brought in a good WR in free agency in 2011. Where would Wayne fit and how much money are the Chiefs going to put into WR?

I don't think that's in stone anywhere.

O.city
03-04-2012, 01:56 PM
So we have until tomorrow to franchise tag someone?

whoman69
03-04-2012, 01:59 PM
If you're the Colts, do you sign Manning knowing that it could cost you Luck. If I'm Luck and ready to play now, I demand a trade to a team that will play me. I would rather sit out than delay my career by 3-4 years.

-King-
03-04-2012, 02:01 PM
So we have until tomorrow to franchise tag someone?

Yep. 3:00 central time to be specific.

O.city
03-04-2012, 02:07 PM
I think Luck is prepared to do that.


If the Colts keep Manning, Luck might say no thanks.

Fat Elvis
03-04-2012, 02:07 PM
IMO Tannehill isn't worth a 1st.

Esto.

Dylan
03-04-2012, 02:07 PM
what does Dr. Mort know?

guy gets on my nerves.

90% of the time he's wrong.

BigMeatballDave
03-04-2012, 02:14 PM
IMO Tannehill isn't worth a 1st.

I don't disagree. But he could go ahead of us with so many teams needing a QB. Someone is going to reach.

SPATCH
03-04-2012, 02:29 PM
I read a thread that said KC is a perfect fit for Peyton Manning. Can't find it though.

Peyton Manning

Mr. Laz
03-04-2012, 02:41 PM
...Payton wants to go to a team that will also bring in Reggie Wayne...

link?

Okie_Apparition
03-04-2012, 02:41 PM
Thank goodness the Saints took the heat off
The Chiefs front office over the last few months doesn't look like much of a winner
Strike one

Mr. Laz
03-04-2012, 02:43 PM
Thank goodness the Saints took the heat off
The Chiefs front office over the last few months doesn't look like much of a winner
Strike one
free agency hasn't even start yet

:facepalm:

O.city
03-04-2012, 02:44 PM
Well, the franchise tag on Bowe or Carr needs to happen here pretty soon.

Okie_Apparition
03-04-2012, 02:48 PM
Archie is making a list & checking it twice

Mr. Laz
03-04-2012, 02:53 PM
Well, the franchise tag on Bowe or Carr needs to happen here pretty soon.
Not if they think they have already made a better offer than Bowe is going to receive in free agency. They might think he needs to realize that he is asking way too much and the only way that happens is if he going to other teams and gets a similar offer to what the Chiefs have offered.

O.city
03-04-2012, 02:54 PM
Not if they think they have already made a better offer than Bowe is going to receive in free agency. They might think he needs to realize that he is asking way too much and the only way that happens is if he going to other teams and gets a similar offer to what the Chiefs have offered.

Possibly.


I'd think you would tag one though before they can get to free agency, just to make sure you still have one next year.

whoman69
03-04-2012, 02:55 PM
free agency hasn't even start yet

:facepalm:

They have both Bowe and Carr unsigned and will probably lose Carr. Sounds like strike one to me. Strike 2 will be if we can't get a QB better than Henne to come in for competition. To me that strike would be a firing offense added onto hiring the wrong coach and getting your first draft pick so off.

Mojo Jojo
03-04-2012, 02:56 PM
link?

From Rotoworld...

SI's Peter King reports Peyton Manning would like to be a part of a "package deal" with free agent Reggie Wayne.
King says Manning would "love" to see the pairing happen, while Wayne is "very interested in the combo platter." According to King, "at least" two potential suitors are already open to the idea. King believes the Dolphins, Jets, Seahawks, Redskins and Cardinals would all be open to the arrangement in some form. Noted for the nearly telepathic connection he likes to cultivate with his receivers, the move would be a boon for Manning, but it's possible Wayne's demands in free agency could spoil the party.
Related: Reggie Wayne
Source: Sports Illustrated
Feb 28 - 12:51 PM

How big would this play for Payton if money is close and one team would sign Wayne and the other wont. Ross wants Manning real bad...I think he would be willing to do this in Miami.

Okie_Apparition
03-04-2012, 03:00 PM
That's 5 days old now
A few months ago PEYTON WILL NOT LEAVE INDY was gospel

GoHuge
03-04-2012, 03:04 PM
what does Dr. Mort know?

guy gets on my nerves.

90% of the time he's wrong.That's just a stupid fuckin statement. Can't add much more to it.....would if I could though.

rico
03-04-2012, 04:20 PM
IMO Tannehill isn't worth a 1st.

This. Just another stupid-ass pro-sports, "defying all logic" Cinderella story. We've all seen how Cinderella stories work out for the Chiefs. See: Matt Cassel.

Hog Farmer
03-04-2012, 04:22 PM
I really think this is all a waste of time, KC is not in his sight and Pioli is married to Cassel. Manning, RG3...both a pipe dream.

JUST SHUT UP !

mikey23545
03-04-2012, 04:25 PM
I was listening to an interview with a former basketball player (can't remember who) who apparently had the same issue as Manning.

He said that he went for months with seemingly no improvement, then suddenly it regenerated at an incredible rate.

Sounds like this is where Manning is at in his recuperation now.


:hmmm:

bevischief
03-04-2012, 04:37 PM
Mort on Espn was talking about Manning like he is regaining his arm strength really quick now. He is working out 4/5 days a week and is even wearing pads. Also claims that source is not from Manning camp.

now he's talking like there is a chance that colts might even pay the bonus and keep him.

:cuss:

even if the colts don't keep him it will drive the price up for him.

So he is wearing Depends now, that is a big step up.

O.city
03-04-2012, 04:41 PM
So are the possible landing spots for Manning down to the Chiefs and the Phins?

bevischief
03-04-2012, 04:47 PM
So he is the Borg.

Sofa King
03-04-2012, 04:48 PM
So are the possible landing spots for Manning down to the Chiefs and the Phins?

No. It's down to just the Chiefs.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-04-2012, 04:49 PM
JUST SHUT UP !

LMAO keep the dream alive!!!!

tredadda
03-04-2012, 04:55 PM
If they keep Peyton and draft Luck? Wow! They might take the place of Dallas or NE as the most hated team in the NFL.

O.city
03-04-2012, 04:57 PM
I don't think financially they would have both those guys.

tredadda
03-04-2012, 04:59 PM
I don't think financially they would have both those guys.

If they keep Peyton, do they trade out of the #1 pick? If so, how far?

O.city
03-04-2012, 05:06 PM
If they keep Manning, the value of that pick skyrockets. I would think they would be more inclined to win now so they might be interested in some players.


I don't think it matters. It's not good business if they keep Manning.

whoman69
03-04-2012, 05:15 PM
If they keep Peyton, do they trade out of the #1 pick? If so, how far?

If they're really stupid.

whoman69
03-04-2012, 05:16 PM
If they keep Manning, the value of that pick skyrockets. I would think they would be more inclined to win now so they might be interested in some players.


I don't think it matters. It's not good business if they keep Manning.

They have absolutely no chance to build a championship team around Manning and his $35 million cap hit.

whoman69
03-04-2012, 05:19 PM
People are coming up with some stupid reasons to shy away from Manning. Really?! too healthy?! The only reason not to sign Manning is that he's not healthy enough, end of discussion.

whoman69
03-04-2012, 05:22 PM
I can just see Irsay talking to Luck about signing.

"Uh hay, we just signed Peyton. Would you have a problem sitting for three or four years?"

"Would you have a problem trading me?"

Mr. Laz
03-04-2012, 06:01 PM
People are coming up with some stupid reasons to shy away from Manning. Really?! too healthy?! The only reason not to sign Manning is that he's not healthy enough, end of discussion.
too healthy because it hurts the chances of the Chiefs to get him.


:shake:

beach tribe
03-04-2012, 06:08 PM
Hmmm. I wonder how much the fact that the #1 pick is for sale would decrease the value of the #2 pick which will surely be auctioned off.

Mr. Laz
03-04-2012, 06:35 PM
Hmmm. I wonder how much the fact that the #1 pick is for sale would decrease the value of the #2 pick which will surely be auctioned off.
well it would give bidders another option to play against the rams but it really wouldn't increase the number of QB's available because Manning would be off the market.

as soon the #1 pick went off the board the price would go right back up though

:shrug:

Thig Lyfe
03-05-2012, 08:51 AM
People are coming up with some stupid reasons to shy away from Manning. Really?! too healthy?! The only reason not to sign Manning is that he's not healthy enough, end of discussion.

lol

Sofa King
03-05-2012, 08:53 AM
People are coming up with some stupid reasons to shy away from Manning. Really?! too healthy?! The only reason not to sign Manning is that he's not healthy enough, end of discussion.

LMAO

Come on man....

-King-
03-05-2012, 08:57 AM
People are coming up with some stupid reasons to shy away from Manning. Really?! too healthy?! The only reason not to sign Manning is that he's not healthy enough, end of discussion.
Stick to salary cap conspiracy theories.
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whoman69
03-05-2012, 10:33 AM
too healthy because it hurts the chances of the Chiefs to get him.


:shake:

:):shake::spock:

Mr. Laz
03-05-2012, 10:35 AM
:):shake::spock::Poke:nlm:wayne:

whoman69
03-05-2012, 10:39 AM
Stick to salary cap conspiracy theories.
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We have a cap number going up. We have the 2nd highest cap coming into the year which is now suddenly only half? We still have more than 10 players who dropped off the cap since their contract ended. Pioli has a vested interest in driving expectations down. He has done little to earn any trust from anyone to believe anything he says. If its a conspiracy, its a conspiracy of one.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-05-2012, 10:40 AM
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From @greggrosenthal article: "Unconfirmed rumors at the NFL Scouting Combine that Manning already was zeroed in on the #Dolphins."

O.city
03-05-2012, 10:41 AM
Well, lets go get RGIII.

jd1020
03-05-2012, 10:43 AM
Is he looking to retire in Florida or something?

Why would he want to go into a division with Tom Brady on an inferior team?

KC kid
03-05-2012, 10:50 AM
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From @greggrosenthal article: "Unconfirmed rumors at the NFL Scouting Combine that Manning already was zeroed in on the #Dolphins."

Yeah that makes no sense. The dolphins have a nice LT and all (i guess), but they are miles away from being serious contenders.

Von Dumbass
06-15-2012, 02:50 AM
I was listening to an interview with a former basketball player (can't remember who) who apparently had the same issue as Manning.

He said that he went for months with seemingly no improvement, then suddenly it regenerated at an incredible rate.

Sounds like this is where Manning is at in his recuperation now.

huh

bevischief
06-15-2012, 06:51 AM
why?

Predarat
06-15-2012, 07:30 AM
Someone needs to put some lumber in his teeth and Let 'em know you're there!