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Buck
03-04-2012, 03:09 PM
ACC: FLORIDA STATE
AMERICA EAST: VERMONT
A10: ST. BONAVENTURE
A-SUN: BELMONT
BIG 12: MISSOURI
BIG EAST: LOUISVILLE
BIG SKY: MONTANA
BIG SOUTH: UNC ASHVILLE
BIG TEN: MICHIGAN STATE
BIG WEST: LONG BEACH STATE
CAA: VIRGINIA COMMONWEALTH UNIVERSITY
C-USA: MEMPHIS
HORIZON: DETROIT
IVY: HARVARD
MAAC: LOYOLA (MD)
MAC: OHIO
MEAC: NORFOLK STATE
MVC: CREIGHTON
MWC: NEW MEXICO
NEC: LONG ISLAND
OVC: MURRAY ST
PAC-12: COLORADO
PATRIOT: LEHIGH
SEC: VANDERBILT
SOUTHERN: DAVIDSON
SOUTHLAND: LAMAR
SUMMIT: SOUTH DAKOTA STATE
SUN BELT: WESTERN KENTUCKY
SWAC: MISSISSIPPI VALLEY
WAC: NEW MEXICO STATE
WCC: ST. MARY'S

BOLD = AUTOBID
ITALICS = BUBBLE BURSTER
One bubble burst (St. Bonaventure)

Buck
03-04-2012, 03:09 PM
Illinois St and Creighton going into overtime right now in the MVC.

If Illinois St wins, then there is 1 bubble burst.

Baconeater
03-04-2012, 03:10 PM
Well go Illinois State then!

Buck
03-04-2012, 03:21 PM
Well go Illinois State then!

Creighton is probably going to make it either way, if that's why you're rooting against them.

Buck
03-04-2012, 03:25 PM
Was just about to call the victory for Creighton, but Ill St. forced a turnover and got the lead down to 6 with 37.7 left. It will take a lot to come back from this, but we've all seen more unlikely things happen.

Baconeater
03-04-2012, 03:26 PM
Creighton is probably going to make it either way, if that's why you're rooting against them.
Well damnit, why did you get me all excited then?

Baconeater
03-04-2012, 03:26 PM
Looks like the got it anyway. Meh.

Buck
03-04-2012, 03:27 PM
ILLINOIS STATE DOWN BY 3 WITH 9.6 TO GO!

stonedstooge
03-04-2012, 03:27 PM
Illinois State still has life

Buck
03-04-2012, 03:28 PM
CONGRATULATIONS CREIGHTON BLUE JAYS ON MAKING IT TO THE 2012 NCAA TOURNAMENT!

Buck
03-05-2012, 08:10 PM
VCU IN.

GUESS WHO YOU DONT WANT IN YOUR BRACKET?

Dr. Facebook Fever
03-05-2012, 08:17 PM
I hope Kansas makes the tourney this year. That would be fun.

Buck
03-05-2012, 08:37 PM
THEY'RE ONE OF THE BEST BUBBLE TEAMS. THEY SHOULD MAKE IT.

Al Bundy
03-05-2012, 08:38 PM
I hope Kansas makes the tourney this year. That would be fun.

They should squeak in as a 12 seed.

Buck
03-05-2012, 08:42 PM
Loyola (MD) wins the MAAC. I'd imagine they might be in the "opening round."

Dr. Facebook Fever
03-05-2012, 08:46 PM
THEY'RE ONE OF THE BEST BUBBLE TEAMS. THEY SHOULD MAKE IT.

Thanks buddy. That vote of confidence is going to help me sleep a little easier tonight.

:thumb:

stonedstooge
03-05-2012, 10:08 PM
Zonga and St. Mary's to overtime

Buck
03-05-2012, 10:25 PM
ST. MARY'S WINS THE WCC TOURNAMENT AND WEST CAROLINA VS DAVIDSON ON ESPN 2 IS GOING INTO DOUBLE OVERTIME FOR THE SOCON CONFERENCE.

Buck
03-05-2012, 10:38 PM
Davidson wins the SOCon.

Fucking great game. Feel bad for Western Carolina.

Dr. Facebook Fever
03-05-2012, 10:53 PM
Thanks for watching this stuff Buck so I can watch American Pickers.

Buck
03-06-2012, 07:43 PM
Tonight we have Detroit vs Valpariso for the Horizon Tourney Championship (Butler not going to lose the Championship game this year)

South Dakota State vs Western Illinois for the Summit League

Lastly North Texas vs Western Kentucky for the Sun Belt.

That last game is on ESPN2 right now and its 66-63 North Texas with less than 4 min to go.

RustShack
03-06-2012, 07:46 PM
Is it too early to call Iowa State winning the Big12 Tourney?

Buck
03-06-2012, 07:48 PM
Is it too early to call Iowa State winning the Big12 Tourney?

I can't wait til I own your sig. We need to come to terms on how long it lasts.

I say until College Football Season begins next year, and that's opening kickoff of the opening game by ISU (for you) or SDSU (for me).

Buck
03-06-2012, 07:56 PM
CRAZY sequence there.

North Texas down 2 with 27 sec to go. They have possession.

Buck
03-06-2012, 07:56 PM
And some dude on North Texas just went full retard.

WKU looks to have this game if they can make free throws.

Buck
03-06-2012, 07:57 PM
WOWOWOWOWOW

WKU MISSES THE FREE THROW BUT GETS THE REBOUND AND PUTS IT IN.

THEY'RE UP 4 AND WITH 4 SEC LEFT THEY FOUL A 3 PT SHOT BY NTU, PUTTING THEM AT THE LINE FOR 3.

Buck
03-06-2012, 08:00 PM
North Texas is retarded.

The game's not over, but I'm calling it.

CONGRATS WESTERN KENTUCKY ON ADVANCING TO THE NCAA TOURNAMENT!

Buck
03-06-2012, 09:52 PM
Western Illinois and South Dakota State are going into overtime tied at 44 on ESPN 2.

Seems like every single championship game so far in Championship Week has been great.

chiefsfan987
03-06-2012, 09:57 PM
Western Illinois and South Dakota State are going into overtime tied at 44 on ESPN 2.

Seems like every single championship game so far in Championship Week has been great.

Niether team can score but I'm diggin it just because neither team has ever been to the NCAA tournament.

chiefsfan987
03-06-2012, 09:59 PM
lmao @ that 3 going in

KC_Connection
03-06-2012, 10:04 PM
I really wanted Mutombo and whatever school he was with to win last night over Davidson.

Al Bundy
03-06-2012, 10:05 PM
Entertaining game between the Jack Rabbits and the Leathernecks.

KC_Connection
03-06-2012, 10:07 PM
South Dakota State is actually good surprisingly...49 in KenPom. Western Illinois is in the 180s.

ROYC75
03-06-2012, 10:07 PM
North Texas is retarded.

The game's not over, but I'm calling it.

CONGRATS WESTERN KENTUCKY ON ADVANCING TO THE NCAA TOURNAMENT!

WooHooo , Way to go Hilltoppers & Coach Ray Harper. Harper is a local guy from Greenville, KY, where I live that has has a successful NAIA & NCAA II Championship runs over his career.

He was named interm coach this year after joining the staff and WKU starting off @ 5 - 11, they now stand 15 - 18 and the team is really buying into his teachings.

Ray has been a big part of the community in his basketball coaching tree and local coaches in the school levels, he is a good coach that just needed a major college to take a chance on him.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/recap/NCAAB_20120306_WKY@NTX/wku-stuns-n-texas-for-sun-belt-title
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Harper

Buck
03-06-2012, 10:07 PM
I really wanted Mutombo and whatever school he was with to win last night over Davidson.

Me too. Western Carolina.

They were the team I've rooted for most.

Pablo
03-06-2012, 10:08 PM
Back to back shot clock violations.

Don't know that I've ever seen that.

Buck
03-06-2012, 10:08 PM
And congrats to Detroit for winning the Horizon League Tournament!

You have big shoes to fill in the absence of your Conference brother Butler. Good luck.

KC_Connection
03-06-2012, 10:08 PM
WKU was 9-18 about two weeks ago. And that was in the Sun Belt.

Buck
03-06-2012, 10:09 PM
Back to back shot clock violations.

Don't know that I've ever seen that.

I've watched this entire game. I've never seen as many shot clock violations in the entire game before.

Buck
03-06-2012, 10:10 PM
CONGRATS SOUTH DAKOTA STATE FOR WINNING THE SUMMIT LEAGUE.

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER THERE WILL BE TWO SDSU'S IN THE NCAA TOURNEY.

KC_Connection
03-06-2012, 10:10 PM
South Dakota St. is going to be a tough 13-14 seed.

Buck
03-06-2012, 10:14 PM
Tomorrow Night's championship games:

Big Sky
Weber State vs Eastern Washington/Montana

NEC
Long Island vs Robert Morris

Patriot League
Bucknell vs Lehigh

Plus the Big 12 Conference Tourney starts tomorrow.

Pablo
03-06-2012, 10:15 PM
CONGRATS SOUTH DAKOTA STATE FOR WINNING THE SUMMIT LEAGUE.

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER THERE WILL BE TWO SDSU'S IN THE NCAA TOURNEY.

We all know the Jack Rabbits are the better of the two.

ROYC75
03-06-2012, 10:17 PM
WKU was 9-18 about two weeks ago. And that was in the Sun Belt.

They were horrible to start the year off, They have won 6 in a row now. We could see the team buying into in style of play and defense, they are turning the corner and will be a tougher than normal game for a # 1 or a # 2 out of the gate.

Don't expect anything from them, BTA, didn't expect this either, this year. But next year..... easily.

This guy just does things the right way, I have talked to him several times, seem many of his coaching clinics and if my grand son does not end up at KU, I would push him towards Ray any day of the week.




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Buck
03-06-2012, 10:18 PM
ALSO CONGRATS TO THE HARVARD CRIMSON ON WINNING THEIR FIRST EVER IVY LEAGUE AND MAKING THE NCAA TOURNAMENT!

Buck
03-06-2012, 10:22 PM
Yeah, so after tomorrow, there will have been 14 teams qualified for the tournament and not a single bubble burst yet. Crazy.

lewdog
03-07-2012, 08:15 PM
MONTANA GRIZZLIES on ESPN2 right now!

GO GRIZ!

lewdog
03-07-2012, 10:00 PM
Calling it early but you can punch at ticket to the dance for the University of Montana Grizzlies out of Missoula, Montana! GO GRIZ!

Buck
03-07-2012, 10:52 PM
Congrats to Montana, Lehigh, and Long Island for all making the tourney.

Still zero bubbles burst through today.

Al Bundy
03-07-2012, 11:00 PM
Looks like there might 500 people at this Utah vs Colorado game in the Pac-12 tourney.

Buck
03-07-2012, 11:04 PM
Looks like there might 500 people at this Utah vs Colorado game in the Pac-12 tourney.

The Pac-12 should not receive an autobid this year.

KC_Connection
03-08-2012, 12:03 AM
This is still a better game than the two games we saw in the B12 tonight.

Buck
03-08-2012, 06:20 PM
There aren't anymore championship games until Saturday, which means most of the conferences left are at least somewhat legit.

Other than the America East, SWAC, and the Southland, (and the Pac 12), the rest of the conferences have some pretty good teams.

chiefsfan987
03-09-2012, 12:45 AM
Colorado competing well in the Pac 12 tournament... They win again tonight.

chiefsfan987
03-10-2012, 12:29 AM
Colorado playing well again for a 3rd straight night... 4 minutes away from a chance to play for the Pac tourney championship...

chiefsfan987
03-10-2012, 12:46 AM
Buffs win... it'll be Arizona vs Colorado for the pac title. Neither of those teams were making the tourney without the autobid. I think one of the last four in may have just lost a spot.

KC_Connection
03-10-2012, 12:46 AM
It would be funny if Colorado made the tournament this year instead of last year when they were a far better team.

The P12 is a hilariously bad basketball conference.

Ultra Peanut
03-10-2012, 05:42 PM
MORE LIKE PAC-FARTS

Mr. Flopnuts
03-10-2012, 05:47 PM
Fuck you guys. I know the P12 is TERRIBLE this year. And I know Washington doesn't deserve it. But fuck me. Win your conference, and still don't get in. It hurts. Even if they do suck. Crying over.

chiefsfan987
03-10-2012, 07:01 PM
Colorado 1 minute and 27 seconds away from winning the Pac tourney if they can hold on to a 5 point lead... they are about to do something they never could in the Big XII in their first season on the west coast.

chiefsfan987
03-10-2012, 07:11 PM
The buffs nearly screw the pooch at the end but hold on..

Ultra Peanut
03-10-2012, 08:06 PM
Fuck you guys. I know the P12 is TERRIBLE this year. And I know Washington doesn't deserve it. But fuck me. Win your conference, and still don't get in. It hurts. Even if they do suck. Crying over.
WELCOME TO LIFE AS A MID-MAJOR, SCRUBS

*kickflips over Madison Square Garden*

Ultra Peanut
03-10-2012, 08:09 PM
... but hey, on the bright side, the NIT is contractually obligated to take regular season conference champions who don't make it to the dance. So at least there's that.



oh my gosh i am so sorry

Mr. Flopnuts
03-10-2012, 08:24 PM
... but hey, on the bright side, the NIT is contractually obligated to take regular season conference champions who don't make it to the dance. So at least there's that.



oh my gosh i am so sorry

UW won't even win the NIT. I really have nothing to cry about.

Buck
03-10-2012, 08:39 PM
My team lost the Championship Game tonight.

Shit sucks so fucking bad. I don't even care that we are making the tourney as an at-large bid. This will be the first time that SDSU makes it as an At-Large because they've always won their tournament. I never knew that not winning the conference tourney would suck more than making the tourney as an at-large would be good.

Crush
03-10-2012, 08:58 PM
The 1st half of Louisville-Cincinnati was so fucking boring.

Al Bundy
03-10-2012, 09:00 PM
Congratulations to the Lobos of New Mexico. My 3 favorite teams from the MWC will make the tournament.

Crush
03-10-2012, 09:02 PM
Ohio leading Akron 64-61 with 6.2 seconds left in the MAC Championship.

Rams Fan
03-10-2012, 09:07 PM
St. Bonny can burst someone's bubble if they win the A10 tourney tomorrow.

Crush
03-10-2012, 09:10 PM
Congratulations to Ohio for winning the MAC Championship. They beat Akron 64-63.

Al Bundy
03-10-2012, 09:11 PM
Ohio leading Akron 64-61 with 6.2 seconds left in the MAC Championship.

Ohio won.

Al Bundy
03-10-2012, 09:16 PM
Ohh and fuck North Carolina. That was a charge at the end of the game.

kstater
03-10-2012, 10:09 PM
Congrats to Louisville, you're the Big East Champions.

Buck
03-10-2012, 10:32 PM
Ohh and fuck North Carolina. That was a charge at the end of the game.

If you're gonna flop instead of play active defense and try to block a shot at the end of a game that huge, you deserve the no call.

Buck
03-10-2012, 10:36 PM
Amazingly, the only bubble burst so far, might not even be. Depends on if you think Nevada will get an at large bid.

If Nevada doesn't get in, then there will have been 0 bubbles burst this year.

Buck
03-10-2012, 10:37 PM
I guess the same could be said about Arizona, but I really doubt they give the Pac12 2 teams.

KC_Connection
03-10-2012, 10:41 PM
Wow, there's still a game coming up after this Long Beach game.

KC_Connection
03-10-2012, 10:44 PM
Congrats to Louisville, you're the Big East Champions.
LMAO

KC_Connection
03-10-2012, 10:45 PM
If you're gonna flop instead of play active defense and try to block a shot at the end of a game that huge, you deserve the no call.
I've gotta agree with this. Although I still think NC State got screwed out of that game over the duration of it. Most calls went against them.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-10-2012, 10:51 PM
I guess the same could be said about Arizona, but I really doubt they give the Pac12 2 teams.

arizona? Why? Because their name is Arizona? Washington won that conference and swept Arizona.

Buck
03-10-2012, 10:58 PM
arizona? Why? Because their name is Arizona? Washington won that conference and swept Arizona.

They got a game further.

What have you done for me lately, and winning the PAC 12 reg season isn't that big of an accomplishment.

Congrats on being the least retarded retard.

:)

Al Bundy
03-10-2012, 11:06 PM
If you're gonna flop instead of play active defense and try to block a shot at the end of a game that huge, you deserve the no call.

You do realize that if the roles had been reversed the charge call would have been made, correct?

Al Bundy
03-10-2012, 11:06 PM
I don't know that I would want to play Long Beach State in the 1st round.

Buck
03-11-2012, 12:02 AM
You do realize that if the roles had been reversed the charge call would have been made, correct?

I highly doubt it. When do you ever see calls made like that with 7 sec left? Hardly ever.

Al Bundy
03-11-2012, 12:06 AM
I highly doubt it. When do you ever see calls made like that with 7 sec left? Hardly ever.

UNC would have gotten the call.

baitism
03-11-2012, 12:40 AM
UNC would have gotten the call.

This man speaks the truth.

KC_Connection
03-11-2012, 12:40 AM
I don't know that I would want to play Long Beach State in the 1st round.
I'm thinking of picking Long Beach to go to the 2nd weekend just for the hell of it. It's just as likely as anything else.

New Mexico St. is absolutely destroying La. Tech right now.

Al Bundy
03-11-2012, 12:55 AM
I'm thinking of picking Long Beach to go to the 2nd weekend just for the hell of it. It's just as likely as anything else.

New Mexico St. is absolutely destroying La. Tech right now.

Yeah, I am not sure what to make of New Mexico State. They look like a team that could take a 4 or a 5 to the limit and just beat the shit out of them physically to the point that 48 hours later said team would be out of gas and lose badly.

Buck
03-11-2012, 12:58 AM
I'm going to bed, so I'm editing in New Mexico State now.

I just put the ultimate jinx on them. Watch Louisiana Tech make a 27 point swing in the next 2 min.

Buck
03-11-2012, 01:38 PM
St. Bonaventure is trying to burst someones bubble.

Up 5 on Xavier with 8:30 left in the A10 Championship game.

carlos3652
03-11-2012, 01:41 PM
St. Bonaventure is trying to burst someones bubble.

Up 5 on Xavier with 8:30 left in the A10 Championship game.

It might be Xavier's bubble...

Buck
03-11-2012, 01:56 PM
It might be Xavier's bubble...

Could be.

Buck
03-11-2012, 02:02 PM
UNC down 1 to Florida State with 30 seconds left. Florida State inbounding.

Buck
03-11-2012, 02:02 PM
Bonnies take a 9 point lead with 1:30 left.

Not looking good for Xavier.

Buck
03-11-2012, 02:06 PM
Xavier still a team full of thugs.

Hopefully they miss the tourney. I hate them.

Buck
03-11-2012, 02:07 PM
Florida state up 3 with 3.9 left.

UNC inbounding.

O.city
03-11-2012, 02:10 PM
Vandy with a lead on UK under a minute to go.

Buck
03-11-2012, 02:11 PM
FSU beats UNC.

What channel is the Vandy / UK game on ? i cant find it

Al Bundy
03-11-2012, 02:12 PM
FSU beats UNC.

What channel is the Vandy / UK game on ? i cant find it

ABC

Buck
03-11-2012, 02:13 PM
Well I guess I missed it. Looks like Vandy won.

tk13
03-11-2012, 02:13 PM
All of the top four ranked teams lost in their conference tourney. Wonder how long it's been since that happened? Especially since they were all from difference conferences.

Al Bundy
03-11-2012, 02:13 PM
UNC finally had to play the game 5 on 5 and lost.

Al Bundy
03-11-2012, 02:14 PM
Xavier should be out of the tourney instead of Drexel.

KC_Connection
03-11-2012, 02:15 PM
Every #1 seed going into the conference tournaments has now lost (UK, Cuse, UNC, KU). Yeah, these tournaments mean everything. LMAO

R8RFAN
03-11-2012, 02:15 PM
Heels let me down & John Henson is a Puss

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 02:17 PM
SLU better be in.

:grovel:

KC_Connection
03-11-2012, 02:17 PM
Heels let me down & John Henson is a Puss
Williams is the one who held out Henson...as he should have.

carlos3652
03-11-2012, 02:19 PM
SLU better be in.

:grovel:

They are a lock..

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 02:19 PM
They are a lock..

I wouldn't say that.

St. Bonnie winning could fuck that up.

Ultra Peanut
03-11-2012, 02:25 PM
Xavier would get bumped before SLU, even after yesterday.

R8RFAN
03-11-2012, 02:29 PM
Williams is the one who held out Henson...as he should have.

I disagree, he looked ok in practice but I am not making excuses, FSU beat us fair and square and deserved it shooting almost 60% for the game...


Now it's big dance time

Guru
03-11-2012, 02:38 PM
Kentucky lost?

Wow 5 of the top 6 lost these past 3 days.

lewdog
03-11-2012, 02:39 PM
Spartan time baby!

alnorth
03-11-2012, 02:40 PM
SLU better be in.

:grovel:

Don't even bother praying, SLU is, easily, by far in.

What you should be praying for is to not get an 8 or 9 seed.

alnorth
03-11-2012, 03:23 PM
Calling my shot now for #1 seeds: Aside from the obvious (Kentucky and Syracuse), UNC will be the 3rd #1 seed, and Kansas will be #1 in the West.

Its been trendy this afternoon for people to declare that the Big 10 champ will be a #1 and the Big 10 loser will be a #2, with Kansas and Mizzou both #2 seeds, but they are forgetting one very important thing: conference champs who are crowned right before the selection show don't get credit for it, unless they were a bad team who got the auto-bid.

Its why the Big 12 and lots of other conferences moved their championship game to Saturday, its now understood that if you play your last game on Sunday, you'll screw over your conference champ on seeding. (though conversely, whoever loses might not get hurt as bad, too) If the Big 10 championship game was yesterday, I can see it, but at this point its too late.

Buck
03-11-2012, 03:30 PM
Kentucky, Syracuse, Mizzou, Winner of Ohio St/Mich St.

Kansas is not a 1.

R8RFAN
03-11-2012, 03:32 PM
kentucky,syracuse,unc,and mizzou

Buck
03-11-2012, 03:33 PM
Yeah I'm not sure about Mizzou in mine or if it will be UNC, but I'm leaning towards Mizzou since they won their tourney.

R8RFAN
03-11-2012, 03:39 PM
It's gonna be interesting either way... Many many good teams this year, may be one of the best torneys ever

alnorth
03-11-2012, 03:39 PM
They may both be #2's, but I seriously doubt Missouri gets placed ahead of Kansas on the S-curve. I've seen some brackets where Missouri is right behind KU on the S-curve, but I haven't seen anyone put Missouri ahead of Kansas.

3 reasons: First, the last 10 games criteria has been greatly de-emphasized, to the point where the selection committee will no longer even see last 10 game records on their profile sheets. The message has been that November and December games will be judged to be exactly equal in importance as your last game. The conference tournament still matters, but not nearly as much as before, or so they say. Second, Mizzou and KU had the same conference schedule, and KU finished 2 games better. Finally, Mizzou's non-conference SOS is horrible, while KU's non-conference SOS is decent. If the Big 10 champ is not getting the last #1 seed, the committee will probably reward the better schedule.

lewdog
03-11-2012, 03:40 PM
I would have to think the winner of the Big10 game gets a #1 but then again I am a little biased. :)

Bambi
03-11-2012, 03:41 PM
OSU-MSU is crazy right now.

Both very good teams.

Do either one have enough to steal the last #1 from KU?

KC_Connection
03-11-2012, 03:42 PM
OSU-MSU is crazy right now.

Both very good teams.

Do either one have enough to steal the last #1 from KU?
I think the winner deserves it.

lewdog
03-11-2012, 03:43 PM
OSU-MSU is crazy right now.

Both very good teams.

Do either one have enough to steal the last #1 from KU?

I think State does if they win this game because their strength of schedule was #1 in the nation. Or even OSU if they win it too.

Bambi
03-11-2012, 03:45 PM
I think the winner deserves it.

After watching them I think they could be deserving.

Either give KU the #1 in the West or #2 against one of these teams and that is the best setup for the Hawks.

UK, Cuse or UNC's bracket? No thanks

KC_Connection
03-11-2012, 03:45 PM
After watching them I think they could be deserving.

Either give KU the #1 in the West or #2 against one of these teams and that is the best setup for the Hawks.

UK, Cuse or UNC's bracket? No thanks
I think that's what will end up happening. I'd also like to avoid those three (especially UK).

alnorth
03-11-2012, 03:46 PM
I think the winner deserves it.

The winner might, but I just don't think it'll happen. The selection show is in little over an hour. There's a reason why a lot of conferences moved back a day and most conferences don't play on Sunday anymore.

KC_Connection
03-11-2012, 03:46 PM
I hate Craft so much. That looked like a charge.

lewdog
03-11-2012, 03:48 PM
Well State better hope Green doesnt have to miss any extended time. Hit his head on the court on that not called charge.

Bambi
03-11-2012, 03:50 PM
The winner might, but I just don't think it'll happen. The selection show is in little over an hour. There's a reason why a lot of conferences moved back a day and most conferences don't play on Sunday anymore.

Yep, this has screwed KU many times in the past when the Big 12 played on Sunday.

But I could see them having decided yesterday after it was known that these two would be in the final that they could adjust something that gives the winner a number 1.

I don't know though. The committee doesn't get wrapped up in these tourneys all that much. They look at the whole body of work.

Can some stat geek please post the resumes of OSU, MSU, and KU?

alnorth
03-11-2012, 04:09 PM
Yep, this has screwed KU many times in the past when the Big 12 played on Sunday.

But I could see them having decided yesterday after it was known that these two would be in the final that they could adjust something that gives the winner a number 1.

I don't know though. The committee doesn't get wrapped up in these tourneys all that much. They look at the whole body of work.

Can some stat geek please post the resumes of OSU, MSU, and KU?

Ohio State:

27-6, 13-5 Conference, 6 RPI, 16 SOS, 125 Non-con SOS, Scoring Margin 16.30

Record vs:

Top 25: 7-5
Top 50: 9-5
Top 100: 14-6
Top 150: 19-6
Bottom 150: 8-0

Michigan State:

25-7, 13-5 Conference, 4 RPI, 1 SOS, 12 Non-con SOS, Scoring Margin 12.40

Record vs:

Top 25: 8-5
Top 50: 10-5
Top 100: 13-7
Top 150: 18-7
Bottom 150: 7-0

Kansas:

27-6, 16-2 Conference, 7 RPI, 18 SOS, 45 Non-con SOS, Scoring Margin 13.10

Record vs:

Top 25: 5-4
Top 50: 11-5
Top 100: 12-6
Top 150: 17-6
Bottom 150: 10-0

Missouri:

30-4, 14-4 Conference, 10 RPI, 106 SOS, 308 Non-con SOS, Scoring Margin 14.60

Record vs:

Top 25: 4-1
Top 50: 11-3
Top 100: 12-3
Top 150: 19-4
Bottom 150: 11-0

alnorth
03-11-2012, 04:10 PM
Actually, based on that, perhaps the committee had KU out and Michigan State in yesterday, regardless of how the Big 10 championship game ends.

KChiefer
03-11-2012, 04:12 PM
OSU-MSU is crazy right now.

Both very good teams.


Was looking for a thread to say this very thing. Go MSU!

alnorth
03-11-2012, 04:24 PM
Revising my prediction because I can see the committee deciding yesterday that the Spartans should be #1 if they win and creating two brackets this morning.

#1 seeds: Kentucky, Syracuse, UNC, and either Kansas or Michigan State. Spartans if they win, Jayhawks if they lose.

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 04:25 PM
Missed 3, missed 3, missed shot, foul, missed FT, foul, missed FT.... Just another Big 10 game. :shrug:

KC_Connection
03-11-2012, 04:27 PM
Actually, based on that, perhaps the committee had KU out and Michigan State in yesterday, regardless of how the Big 10 championship game ends.
That's what I'm thinking might be the case.

KChiefer
03-11-2012, 04:29 PM
Missed 3, missed 3, missed shot, foul, missed FT, foul, missed FT.... Just another Big 10 game. :shrug:

Think the teams are gassed. Was a great battle until about 2 mins left.

alnorth
03-11-2012, 04:32 PM
oh by the way, should mention this now. If KU and Mizzou are both #2 seeds and Mizzou gets St. Louis, that does not mean they were ranked ahead of Kansas on the S-curve. KU is probably destined for Phoenix unless they somehow get ranked #3.

For #1 seeds, they go in order, 1st to 4th, giving strict preference to higher seeds, with 4th getting whatever is left. For #2 seeds, they are no longer concerned about being fair to the #5 team on the curve, they just go strictly on proximity to help the site sell more tickets. Mizzou is much closer to St. Louis than Kansas, so they get St. Louis, even if KU would have been #5 and Mizzou would have hypothetically been #8. Since KU will be closer to Phoenix than anyone else who might be on the 2-line, (and since they will be going West if they have the last #1) Kansas fans should probably start planning on going to the valley of the sun.

Bambi
03-11-2012, 04:35 PM
Missouri:

30-4, 14-4 Conference, 10 RPI, 106 SOS, 308 Non-con SOS, Scoring Margin 14.60

Record vs:

Top 25: 4-1
Top 50: 11-3
Top 100: 12-3
Top 150: 19-4
Bottom 150: 11-0

lol, I didn't know a non con SOS that low was even possible.

Bambi
03-11-2012, 04:36 PM
oh by the way, should mention this now. If KU and Mizzou are both #2 seeds and Mizzou gets St. Louis, that does not mean they were ranked ahead of Kansas on the S-curve. KU is probably destined for Phoenix unless they somehow get ranked #3.

For #1 seeds, they go in order, 1st to 4th, giving strict preference to higher seeds, with 4th getting whatever is left. For #2 seeds, they are no longer concerned about being fair to the #5 team on the curve, they just go strictly on proximity to help the site sell more tickets. Mizzou is much closer to St. Louis than Kansas, so they get St. Louis, even if KU would have been #5 and Mizzou would have hypothetically been #8. Since KU will be closer to Phoenix than anyone else who might be on the 2-line, (and since they will be going West if they have the last #1) Kansas fans should probably start planning on going to the valley of the sun.

Region doesn't matter. KU has fans everywhere, especially Cali/Arizona. It's all about matchups. And I want to play in MSU's region.

lewdog
03-11-2012, 04:40 PM
And I want to play in MSU's region.

Be careful what you wish for! :)

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 04:42 PM
Region doesn't matter. KU has fans everywhere, especially Cali/Arizona. It's all about matchups. And I want to play in MSU's region.

If it's because you think MSU would be out by the time they played KU, I'm all for it... but, I'd rather watch Kentucky/KU than MSU/KU. When KU lost to MSU a few years ago in the tournament, it was just brutal to watch.

KC_Connection
03-11-2012, 04:44 PM
If it's because you think MSU would be out by the time they played KU, I'm all for it... but, I'd rather watch Kentucky/KU than MSU/KU. When KU lost to MSU a few years ago in the tournament, it was just brutal to watch.
I don't think KU can beat a UK team at its best, so I'd much rather see MSU in KU's region. UK is by far the best team in the NCAA this year, IMO.

Buck
03-11-2012, 04:50 PM
I missed the 2nd half of the MSU-OSU game.

10 minutes until the brackets are revealed.

LETS FUCKING GO.

I FEEL AN ILLNESS COMING ON EITHER THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, I BETTER LET WORK KNOW.

Al Bundy
03-11-2012, 04:53 PM
Region doesn't matter. KU has fans everywhere, especially Cali/Arizona. It's all about matchups. And I want to play in MSU's region.

They travel well.

alnorth
03-11-2012, 04:57 PM
haha, wow. I've heard of people making fun of the banners K-State and Mizzou have chosen to hang, but at least no one in the Big 12 decided to hang something like a giant, prominently displayed, "Ranked #6 at the end of the season" banner.

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 04:59 PM
Selection show starting in 2 minutes!!!

You know what that means!?!?!?



Only 20 or 30 minutes before they tell us something we don't already know!!!!

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:01 PM
No shock with UK getting the 1st overall.

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 05:01 PM
Shocking.

Kentucky is the overall #1.

Bowser
03-11-2012, 05:02 PM
No shock with UK getting the 1st overall.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:02 PM
OMG KENTUCKY #1, THIS IS BS LOL

tk13
03-11-2012, 05:03 PM
haha, wow. I've heard of people making fun of the banners K-State and Mizzou have chosen to hang, but at least no one in the Big 12 decided to hang something like a giant, prominently displayed, "Ranked #6 at the end of the season" banner.

Really. I can't believe they didn't just hang a "Final Four" banner. That would actually make sense.

tk13
03-11-2012, 05:03 PM
BREAKING NEWS: PEYTON MANNING TO FLY TO LEXINGTON TO MEET WITH JOHN CALIPARI.

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:03 PM
FUCK YOU MSU

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 05:03 PM
UNC in the Midwest... interesting.

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 05:04 PM
That definitely means the #2 in Phoenix is MU or KU... and the other gets St. Louis.

I think.

Maybe.

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:04 PM
UNC in the Midwest... interesting.

OMG THEY ARE AT THE EDWARD JONES DOME AGAIN.

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:04 PM
So, now it comes down to whether Mizzou or KU gets #2 in Midwest

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 05:05 PM
Or maybe OSU gets St. Louis.... :hmmmm:

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:06 PM
So, now it comes down to whether Mizzou or KU gets #2 in Midwest

Kansas is likely ranked higher (so should be matched against the #1 in the West) and Mizzou is closer to St. Louis.

Setsuna
03-11-2012, 05:06 PM
Missouri got hosed. Selection committee a bunch of homers.

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:07 PM
Kansas is likely ranked higher (so should be matched against the #1 in the West) and Mizzou is closer to St. Louis.

That shouldn't matter. Only SLU can't be in the Midwest bracket because they are considered the host tea.

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:07 PM
Fucking Commercials.

P.S. After the Selection show, change it to TruTV and they'll reveal how the committee ranked the teams from 1-68 for the first time ever.

R8RFAN
03-11-2012, 05:08 PM
http://www.evancarroll.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/unc.jpg

Setsuna
03-11-2012, 05:08 PM
****ing Commercials.

P.S. After the Selection show, change it to TruTV and they'll reveal how the committee ranked the teams from 1-68 for the first time ever.

They select it by which conference they suck off the most.

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 05:08 PM
Missouri got hosed. Selection committee a bunch of homers.

Because they didn't get a #1?

Nah.


It makes the #2 in St. Louis very interesting though... could go to one of 3 teams, as opposed to MSU going to the Midwest and OSU going elsewhere.

the Talking Can
03-11-2012, 05:08 PM
****ing Commercials.

P.S. After the Selection show, change it to TruTV and they'll reveal how the committee ranked the teams from 1-68 for the first time ever.

cool...thanks for the tip

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:08 PM
So...KU, Mizzou, Ohio State, and Duke are our #2s I'm pretty sure.

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:09 PM
That shouldn't matter. Only SLU can't be in the Midwest bracket because they are considered the host tea.

They do consider proximity for the #2 seeds, no one else is closer to Phoenix, and since KU is probably #5, they should be matched up against Michigan State.

KU is going West, but that doesn't necessarily mean anyone else was ranked higher on the 2 line.

Mosbonian
03-11-2012, 05:09 PM
my concern is where they will put MU

the Talking Can
03-11-2012, 05:09 PM
Missouri got hosed. Selection committee a bunch of homers.

why on earth would Missouri be a #1?

sedated
03-11-2012, 05:09 PM
I don't thin KU or mu gets the 2 in the midwest. Wouldn't be fair to UNC.

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:12 PM
Alford vs Indiana.

KChiefer
03-11-2012, 05:12 PM
With how "Live Broadcast" these unveilings are, it'd be a great opportunity to streak on national TV!

Al Bundy
03-11-2012, 05:12 PM
Dook get's a gift I see.

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:12 PM
Duke gets to play in North Carolina?

LMAO

R8RFAN
03-11-2012, 05:12 PM
BULLSHIT DOOK Gets to play in Greensboro

tk13
03-11-2012, 05:13 PM
Alford vs Indiana.

That's New Mexico. IU is playing New Mexico State.

That's a tough matchup... NM State has some big guys down low.

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:13 PM
I don't thin KU or mu gets the 2 in the midwest. Wouldn't be fair to UNC.

They dont care about home court advantage for the #1 and #2 seeds. (unless its literally the home court)

It'll be either Mizzou or OSU

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:13 PM
That's New Mexico. IU is playing New Mexico State.

That's a tough matchup... NM State has some big guys down low.

Ah thought it was UNM. My bad.

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:14 PM
Jesus Christ I'd hate to be in the South.

the Talking Can
03-11-2012, 05:14 PM
wichita state v indiana

interesting matchup

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 05:15 PM
West region coming up.


There will be butthurt.

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:16 PM
The Pac 12 conference tourney winner didnt even get West

ROFL

tk13
03-11-2012, 05:16 PM
That looks like a brutal bracket. Several big name teams who are legit, and then some mid-majors like Wichita State, VCU and NM State that are dangerous.

Setsuna
03-11-2012, 05:16 PM
Duke gets to play in North Carolina?

LMAO

BULLSHIT DOOK Gets to play in Greensboro

They got a hard bracket, they won't make it to the 3rd round.

eazyb81
03-11-2012, 05:16 PM
Not sure the TV execs can avoid trying to setup another Roy vs ku matchup. It seems like they try for it every year.

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:16 PM
haha, defending champs, then the overall #1 seed?

Good luck, Cyclones.

KC_Connection
03-11-2012, 05:18 PM
The best way to beat UK is to have your 3s falling. I think that would be an interesting game if ISU got faced them.

tredadda
03-11-2012, 05:18 PM
Soooooooooooooooooo Portland Oregon is part of the South region? Interesting

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:19 PM
SLU-MEMPHIS

FUCK YES

the Talking Can
03-11-2012, 05:19 PM
i hate baylor, but would love to watch them drop duke

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:20 PM
YOU'RE FUCKING KIDDING ME.

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 05:20 PM
#butthurt

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:20 PM
SO MIZZOU IS THE BEST 2?

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:20 PM
huh?

OK

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03-11-2012, 05:20 PM
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Buck
03-11-2012, 05:20 PM
oh god west is the weakest bracket i think

tredadda
03-11-2012, 05:21 PM
i hate baylor, but would love to watch them drop duke

I could see them do that. Baylor has 7 losses, 5 of which came against MU and KU. They are very, very talented.

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:22 PM
SO MIZZOU IS THE BEST 2?

I think they have to be. For #2 seeds, they go by matchups with location only a secondary concern.

That, or they broke from their seeding principles because they just could not resist a KU-UNC game.

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LET'S GO BILLIKENS.

eazyb81
03-11-2012, 05:22 PM
That bracket doesn't look too bad at first glance.

Bowser
03-11-2012, 05:22 PM
That, or they broke from their seeding principles because they just could not resist a KU-UNC game.

Would not suprise me in the least.

Setsuna
03-11-2012, 05:22 PM
ROFL. That's exactly where Florida belongs.

Old Dog
03-11-2012, 05:23 PM
I think it sets up very nicely for Mizzou

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:23 PM
FUCK YOU GREG ANTHONY.

I WANT SLU-MIZZOU.

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:23 PM
West is fucking weak!

dirk digler
03-11-2012, 05:23 PM
I really like MU's bracket

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:23 PM
The plane flight might suck, but travel aside, Mizzou fans should be happy. The bracket is WEAK.

tredadda
03-11-2012, 05:23 PM
Mizzou better watch out for that bracket. UF will be a tough second round game. If they win that, they should coast. They match up very, very well against MSU if they are competing for a final four spot.

the Talking Can
03-11-2012, 05:24 PM
MU should be happy with that...no bumps the first weekend, i don't think florida can hang with them

tk13
03-11-2012, 05:24 PM
Missouri gets a nice draw, I think. But much like the VCU section of the bracket last year... it looks like one that could be complete chaos.

the Talking Can
03-11-2012, 05:24 PM
The plane flight might suck, but travel aside, Mizzou fans should be happy. The bracket is WEAK.

compared to the south, definitely

Setsuna
03-11-2012, 05:25 PM
Mizzou better watch out for that bracket. UF will be a tough second round game. If they win that, they should coast. They match up very, very well against MSU if they are competing for a final four spot.

You overestimate Florida. We suck dick.

eazyb81
03-11-2012, 05:25 PM
Florida is a scary second round game, but if we can get by them I think we should give MSU a game in the regional final.

tredadda
03-11-2012, 05:25 PM
MU should be happy with that...no bumps the first weekend, i don't think florida can hang with them

I hope you are right, but my gut says we should be leery of UF.

Ultra Peanut
03-11-2012, 05:25 PM
Man. I just. Do not get it.

tredadda
03-11-2012, 05:27 PM
You overestimate Florida. We suck dick.

But they are still very talented. They might not be playing up to it, but that does not mean they can't give Mizzou a game.

the Talking Can
03-11-2012, 05:27 PM
I hope you are right, but my gut says we should be leery of UF.

sec is a crap conference outside of UK and Vanderbilt is much more dangerous than florida....

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 05:29 PM
Florida hasn't done much to impress this season, from what I remember... not an easy 2nd round matchup, by any means, but looks like a good region for MU.

Dartgod
03-11-2012, 05:29 PM
Looks like KU gets to lose another game in Missouri.

Al Bundy
03-11-2012, 05:29 PM
West Virginia gets a game in it's backyard.

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:30 PM
A10 represent.

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:30 PM
Texas shouldn't be in.

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:31 PM
If SDSU is a 7, our 2nd round matchup is KU....holy shit.

Wyatt Earp
03-11-2012, 05:32 PM
Hey KSU went 32-2! Thanks CBS!

R8RFAN
03-11-2012, 05:32 PM
If SDSU is a 7, our 2nd round matchup is KU....holy shit.

Who the fuck is SDSU?

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:33 PM
Who the fuck is SDSU?

And if we're an 8, you're our 2nd round matchup.

FUCK

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:33 PM
Texas shouldn't be in.

most years, no. This year, yes, easily. The 2012 bubble blew ass, so compared to the garbage heap, Texas was good enough.

Setsuna
03-11-2012, 05:33 PM
But they are still very talented. They might not be playing up to it, but that does not mean they can't give Mizzou a game.

They are absolutely talented. But our coach has lost his touch.

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:34 PM
only 3 of these teams are in

NC State
Miami
South Florida
Seton Hall
Northwestern
Cal
Oregon
Washington
Arizona
Ole Miss
Mississippi
Tennessee
Marshall
Oral Roberts
Drexel

tk13
03-11-2012, 05:34 PM
most years, no. This year, yes, easily. The 2012 bubble blew ass, so compared to the garbage heap, Texas was good enough.

They could fix this problem if they went to 128 teams!

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 05:35 PM
Who the **** is SDSU?

I think they play in Sioux Falls.

the Talking Can
03-11-2012, 05:35 PM
i fucking love that we're in Roy's bracket

Ultra Peanut
03-11-2012, 05:36 PM
Top 20 RPI
Top 20 SOS
Top 5 OOC SOS
5-6 vs. Top 50
7-1 vs. 51-100
26-8
Conference regular season champions
Conference tournament champions

... 8 seed.

At least the path is reasonably favorable. SLU and MSU will be tough, but there are worse alternatives.

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:36 PM
That is a pretty damn good play in game.

frankotank
03-11-2012, 05:36 PM
Go BLUE!

frankotank
03-11-2012, 05:37 PM
hell yeah! fitting. playing ohio. nice.

baitism
03-11-2012, 05:37 PM
Kansas gets Florida State. Would not want....

Or not... did I miss FSU?

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:37 PM
Here we go. Please don't be a 7 SDSU

tredadda
03-11-2012, 05:37 PM
At least MU gets UF in Omaha, which is a significant home court advantage.

R8RFAN
03-11-2012, 05:37 PM
Good Job Carolina Lite

Al Bundy
03-11-2012, 05:38 PM
Kansas has an easy draw.

tk13
03-11-2012, 05:38 PM
Detroit's pretty good for a 15 seed. That's a tough draw for a 2, Horizon League Champ.

Rams Fan
03-11-2012, 05:38 PM
OH NOES BELMONT IS IN THE SAME BRACKET AS KU.

R8RFAN
03-11-2012, 05:39 PM
Oh Hell NCSU is not a weak team

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:39 PM
Drexel and Northwestern are BOTH out.

USF somehow got in.

Bearcat
03-11-2012, 05:40 PM
OH NOES BELMONT IS IN THE SAME BRACKET AS KU.

They're Seth Davis' sleeper team, so they'll lose in the first round.

Buck
03-11-2012, 05:40 PM
THANK GOD

alnorth
03-11-2012, 05:40 PM
I have to tentatively agree, KU's half of the bracket doesn't look intimidating