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Buck
03-04-2012, 02:40 PM
Can't any team now make Brees an offer to be the richest QB in NFL history and if the Saints don't match it, they have to give up a 1st and a 3rd and a new team gets Brees?

I don't get why the Saints wouldn't just pay him to be the richest QB ever on their own if they really want to keep him.

I think a team like the Chiefs or Broncos or even the Niners who don't have a top first round draft pick would immediately offer Brees a contract.

Am I wrong about this?

Sorry if this has already been discussed, I'm usually around here all week, but new job, no internet for me anymore.

-King-
03-04-2012, 02:41 PM
It's the exclusive tag. No team can talk to him.

Buck
03-04-2012, 02:42 PM
It's the exclusive tag. No team can talk to him.

Until when?

I didn't even realize such a tag existed.

doomy3
03-04-2012, 02:44 PM
Until when?

I didn't even realize such a tag existed.

Yeah, they pay something like $2 million more than the franchise tag to make it the exclusive tag so that he can't talk to any other teams this year. He can't talk to other teams until next year's free agency.

mlyonsd
03-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Do you want him back?

Buck
03-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Yeah, they pay something like $2 million more than the franchise tag to make it the exclusive tag so that he can't talk to any other teams this year. He can't talk to other teams until next year's free agency.

Can you use the Exclusive tag on a player more than once?

Wow, I can't believe that thing exists, that's sort of bullshit, IMO.

Buck
03-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Do you want him back?

No.

O.city
03-04-2012, 02:46 PM
After all this going down, I could see Brees leaving NO if he has the chance.

Buck
03-04-2012, 02:47 PM
After all this going down, I could see Brees leaving NO if he has the chance.

Yep, he really took offense to the (what he considered) "lowball" offer that we gave him. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes as much offense to what the Saints are doing.

However, he is the key figure in bringing so much joy to the people of that area. I think he's really connected to the fans there, so that might keep him from wanting to go elsewhere.

DTLB58
03-04-2012, 02:51 PM
From BobGretz.com:

There are two types of designations: the exclusive rights franchise tag, and non-exclusive rights franchise tag:

An “exclusive” franchise player must be offered a one-year contract equal to an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player’s position over the last five seasons or 120 percent of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams.

A “non-exclusive” franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player’s position over the last five seasons, or 120 percent of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater. He may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if he signs an offer sheet, the original team has the right to match terms of that offer. If it does not match the offer, the club received two first-round draft picks as compensation.

Obviously the teams designate which they are using, and the Saints did not say hey everyone is allowed to negotiate with our franchise QB.

Okie_Apparition
03-04-2012, 02:52 PM
The tag is the average of the top QBs in the league
as of now taging Brees 16 mil vs contract north of 18(PFT)
if true makes sense, cheapskate sense

Buck
03-04-2012, 02:53 PM
From BobGretz.com:

There are two types of designations: the exclusive rights franchise tag, and non-exclusive rights franchise tag:

An “exclusive” franchise player must be offered a one-year contract equal to an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player’s position over the last five seasons or 120 percent of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams.

A “non-exclusive” franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player’s position over the last five seasons, or 120 percent of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater. He may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if he signs an offer sheet, the original team has the right to match terms of that offer. If it does not match the offer, the club received two first-round draft picks as compensation.

That doesn't say anything that the exclusive rights tag pays more.

I didn't realize it was two firsts. I thought it was a first and a third for some reason.

KurtCobain
03-04-2012, 02:54 PM
Why wouldn't you want brees back?

Buck
03-04-2012, 03:00 PM
Why wouldn't you want brees back?

What the fuck are we going to do with 2 franchise QBs?

HoneyBadger
03-04-2012, 03:04 PM
What the fuck are we going to do with 2 franchise QBs?

Win?

KurtCobain
03-04-2012, 03:05 PM
What the fuck are we going to do with 2 franchise QBs?

Trade the whiny one?

Buck
03-04-2012, 03:07 PM
Win?

Yeah, lets spend all of our money on two guys, one of which won't play, and then ignore every other pressing issue we have.

Our O-Line is shot, our D-Line sucks, We don't have a #1 WR anymore. Our Secondary is getting long in the tooth.

The Chargers somehow still have a small window to do something, and signing another QB is about the stupidest idea ever.

I know it's just a joke on your part, but this is a further in depth reason behind why I don't want Brees back.

mlyonsd
03-04-2012, 03:10 PM
Yeah, lets spend all of our money on two guys, one of which won't play, and then ignore every other pressing issue we have.

Our O-Line is shot, our D-Line sucks, We don't have a #1 WR anymore. Our Secondary is getting long in the tooth.

The Chargers somehow still have a small window to do something, and signing another QB is about the stupidest idea ever.

I know it's just a joke on your part, but this is a further in depth reason behind why I don't want Brees back.Yeah but if you let Rivers go we could start countless numbers of threads arguing if we should pick him up.

Bane
03-04-2012, 03:20 PM
Trade the whiny one?

They already fucked that up once.

Gadzooks
03-04-2012, 03:36 PM
From this Charger fan's perspective, Brees is the biggest cock tease/ ass tickler in the history of the NFL.
- When he was drafted, he couldn't beat out 'Lil' Dougie Flutie.
- When he was finally made the starter he was the suckiest QB who ever sucked. He threw balls behind his WRs and "led" the Chargers to a 4-12 record and the first pick in the draft
- The next year the dirty bastard turns around and plays awesome and gets them to 12-4. (Schottenheimer blows it in the playoffs as usual).
- Then the little ****er goes 9-7, out of the playoffs, and screws up his elbow on the last game of the season prior to becoming a FA.
- Finally a FA, he gets a nice big fat contract from NO, leads them to a SB (3years ago) and now wants to be the highest paid QB in the NFL.

The Saints should be leery on making that happen.

On the record, I'd rather have Rivers over Brees...

Psyko Tek
03-04-2012, 03:38 PM
Trade the whiny one?

the one who doesn't win?

jspchief
03-04-2012, 03:40 PM
That doesn't say anything that the exclusive rights tag pays more.

I didn't realize it was two firsts. I thought it was a first and a third for some reason.

Exclusive is based on the top five salaries over the last 5 seasons, including the current year. Meaning 2007-2012.

Non exclusive would average 2006-2011.

Okie_Apparition
03-04-2012, 03:41 PM
Brees first professional game was against the KC Chiefs
I bet Gun had the DC put a bounty on him & it ****ed him up for years
~it was Greg Robinson, never mind

thurman merman
03-04-2012, 03:48 PM
On the record, I'd rather have Rivers over Brees...

Further proof that you are a retard.

Gadzooks
03-04-2012, 03:54 PM
Further proof that you are a retard.

I have yet to see any evidence of your intellectual prowess so I will assume you were blessed with an extra chromosome.