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ReynardMuldrake
03-05-2012, 04:05 PM
Helloooo Darwin awards!

Bright, outgoing college teen Taylor Sauer proved in the last minutes of her life she knew right from wrong — but still committed a fatal mistake.

Sauer was making a late-night, four-hour drive from the Utah State University campus in Logan to visit her folks in Caldwell, Idaho. She passed the time along I-84 messaging a pal on Facebook about the Denver Broncos football team. But she stopped short, writing in her final missive, "I can't discuss this now. Driving and facebooking is not safe! Haha."

Moments later, Sauer, going more than 80 mph, slammed into a tanker truck that was slowly creeping up a hill at 15 mph. She was killed instantly; investigators saw no signs that she applied the brakes before the fatal crash. And in checking her cell phone records, they learned Sauer was posting about every 90 seconds during her drive.

"I think she was probably (texting) to stay awake, she was probably tired," Taylor's dad, Clay Sauer, told Ann Curry on TODAY Monday. "But that's not a reason to do it, and the kids think they're invincible. To them, (texting) is not distracting, they're so proficient at texting, that they don't feel it's distracted driving."

Clay and Shauna Sauer, still grieving over their 18-year-old daughter's Jan. 12 death, have become lobbyists in their home state to urge the state legislature to pass a ban on texting while driving. Idaho is one of 13 states in the U.S. that has no such law in place.

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http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46627015/ns/today-today_people/#.T1TnrfE7U1I

|Zach|
03-05-2012, 04:07 PM
Yeesh goin 80

Deberg_1990
03-05-2012, 04:08 PM
Newsflash! Teenagers drive stupid. Ill bet insurance companies have known this for years.

DJ's left nut
03-05-2012, 04:09 PM
You can pay a hell of a lot of attention, but if you come up a hill and there's a !@#$ing tanker truck doing 15 on a highway, you're in a little bit of trouble either way.

No question that she shouldn't have been texting, but there but for the grace of God goes anyone that swears they'd have never hit that truck. A situation like that could pop up if you're simply changing the radio station or sneezing. A 65 mph difference closes in a hurry and 80 mph on an interstate is hardly unreasonable (I know I'm at 80-85 for most of my trip down 44 through OK or 35 through KS).

Those trucks that take their sweet-ass time on the highway are dangerous as hell. Especially when it's late and you're on hilly terrain where you kinda struggle to pick up distance as you go up and down over the hills and don't have a prolonged lock on whatever you're coming up on. It makes it really tough to gauge their speed.

siberian khatru
03-05-2012, 04:24 PM
If only we had a law, she would've known that driving and facebooking is not safe, and she would be alive today.

MIAdragon
03-05-2012, 04:25 PM
"probably (texting) to stay awake" JFC

blaise
03-05-2012, 04:27 PM
That's terrible. A few years back some teen girl near where I grew up in Western NY was driving like 5 other girls around and smashed into a semi. They all died and her phone records showed she was texting right before the accident.

Setsuna
03-05-2012, 04:28 PM
That's terrible. 80 is pretty fast though. I'd be going....well nvm. I'd be going 79 if the speed limit was 70. Maybe that extra -1 mph would have been the difference.

htismaqe
03-05-2012, 04:28 PM
We have a "driving while texting" ban here and I still see a dozen people a day doing it...

AndChiefs
03-05-2012, 04:29 PM
Yeesh goin 80

If she was in the Idaho portion of the drive the speed limit would've been 75. That's not much over.

Frazod
03-05-2012, 04:30 PM
Too bad there weren't more Bronco fans in the car with her.

VikesFan
03-05-2012, 04:32 PM
What a shame

Johnny Vegas
03-05-2012, 04:32 PM
You can pay a hell of a lot of attention, but if you come up a hill and there's a !@#$ing tanker truck doing 15 on a highway, you're in a little bit of trouble either way.

No question that she shouldn't have been texting, but there but for the grace of God goes anyone that swears they'd have never hit that truck. A situation like that could pop up if you're simply changing the radio station or sneezing. A 65 mph difference closes in a hurry and 80 mph on an interstate is hardly unreasonable (I know I'm at 80-85 for most of my trip down 44 through OK or 35 through KS).

Those trucks that take their sweet-ass time on the highway are dangerous as hell. Especially when it's late and you're on hilly terrain where you kinda struggle to pick up distance as you go up and down over the hills and don't have a prolonged lock on whatever you're coming up on. It makes it really tough to gauge their speed.

I've almost met the ass end of tons of 18 wheelers because they decide to pass another 18 wheeler going up a hill when I'm coming up on them and I'm at cruise control going 80. Their fucking truck is going 30 up hill trying to pass another truck going 30 up hill. They have no respect for other motorists.

Micjones
03-05-2012, 04:33 PM
So sad.
I'm not sure it wouldn't have happened anyway, had she not been texting, though.

Frazod
03-05-2012, 04:33 PM
Agree about the trucks. There is a minimum speed limit on interstate highways, and it's a lot higher than 15 mph.

Dr. Gigglepants
03-05-2012, 04:34 PM
I've almost met the ass end of tons of 18 wheelers because they decide to pass another 18 wheeler going up a hill when I'm coming up on them and I'm at cruise control going 80. Their fucking truck is going 30 up hill trying to pass another truck going 30 up hill. They have no respect for other motorists.

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Fire Me Boy!
03-05-2012, 04:44 PM
That's terrible. 80 is pretty fast though. I'd be going....well nvm. I'd be going 79 if the speed limit was 70. Maybe that extra -1 mph would have been the difference.

Not when you don't touch the brakes.

... investigators saw no signs that she applied the brakes before the fatal crash.

Rain Man
03-05-2012, 04:48 PM
Agree about the trucks. There is a minimum speed limit on interstate highways, and it's a lot higher than 15 mph.

You get some weird stuff if you're driving up in the mountains, though. I don't know that highway, but I think there's mountains in southern Idaho where the highways have a steep grade.

Driving up into the mountains here in Colorado, you'll see truck drivers screw up occasionally and lose their speed, and they're hosed. They don't have the power to accelerate quickly at all, so they end up grinding up the highway for a while trying to get it back. And then the trucks that still have some speed and are still managing 40-50 are desperate to pass them before they have to slow down, too, so one messed-up truck can cause a fair amount of lane jockeying.

For that matter, it's the same thing with cars, especially those that don't have a lot of power. My car has enough power to recover, but I've been in rentals and other cars where you'll be pushing up the mountain and then somebody's going slow in the left lane and it just wipes you out.

notorious
03-05-2012, 04:49 PM
If only we had a law, she would've known that driving and facebooking is not safe, and she would be alive today.

Laws don't fix stupid.

Fire Me Boy!
03-05-2012, 04:54 PM
Laws don't fix stupid.

Check your sarcasometer.

Setsuna
03-05-2012, 05:00 PM
Not when you don't touch the brakes.

:# Can I fire you? You are condemning me to death.

jd1020
03-05-2012, 05:02 PM
But, was she wearing her seat belt?

Fire Me Boy!
03-05-2012, 05:04 PM
:# Can I fire you? You are condemning me to death.

ROFL

R8RFAN
03-05-2012, 05:21 PM
I've almost met the ass end of tons of 18 wheelers because they decide to pass another 18 wheeler going up a hill when I'm coming up on them and I'm at cruise control going 80. Their ****ing truck is going 30 up hill trying to pass another truck going 30 up hill. They have no respect for other motorists.

You are driving too fast and we are only protecting the motoring public...

Fish
03-05-2012, 05:29 PM
And in checking her cell phone records, they learned Sauer was posting about every 90 seconds during her drive.

At least the idiot only killed herself with her stupidity..

Toad
03-05-2012, 05:30 PM
You can pay a hell of a lot of attention, but if you come up a hill and there's a !@#$ing tanker truck doing 15 on a highway, you're in a little bit of trouble either way.

No question that she shouldn't have been texting, but there but for the grace of God goes anyone that swears they'd have never hit that truck. A situation like that could pop up if you're simply changing the radio station or sneezing. A 65 mph difference closes in a hurry and 80 mph on an interstate is hardly unreasonable (I know I'm at 80-85 for most of my trip down 44 through OK or 35 through KS).

Those trucks that take their sweet-ass time on the highway are dangerous as hell. Especially when it's late and you're on hilly terrain where you kinda struggle to pick up distance as you go up and down over the hills and don't have a prolonged lock on whatever you're coming up on. It makes it really tough to gauge their speed.

Amen to that. I hate it when any driver creeps along on a highway. Drivers that cant handle the min speed should take a side road...Damn! I believe the min speed is like 45 on the Interstates.

Thanks for listening.

Johnny Vegas
03-05-2012, 05:32 PM
You are driving too fast and we are only protecting the motoring public...

stuff it. 75 is the MPH and I pass cops going 80 without ever getting pulled over. 30 mph on the interstate is actually more dangerous than going 5 mph over the speed limit. Its absolutely against the law to go less than 45 on the interstate. Truck drivers won't ever pass another truck till a car gets about 100 feet from the trailer then only to cut off and have us slow down to and wait 15 miles for a trucker to pass another trucker. Fuck agendas. Stay out of the passing lane if you can't meet the speed.

DJ's left nut
03-05-2012, 05:35 PM
stuff it. 75 is the MPH and I pass cops going 80 without ever getting pulled over. 30 mph on the interstate is actually more dangerous than going 5 mph over the speed limit. Its absolutely against the law to go less than 45 on the interstate. Truck drivers won't ever pass another truck till a car gets about 100 feet from the trailer then only to get cut off and have to slow down to and wait 15 miles for a trucker to pass another trucker. Fuck agendas. Stay out of the passing lane if you can't meet the speed.

Truck drivers are, by and large, degenerate assholes.

Being lectured by one is similar to multiplying a negative by a negative.

If a truck driver thinks you are doing something wrong, chances are you're on the right track.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-05-2012, 05:36 PM
Stupid, stupid people.

Gonzo
03-05-2012, 05:39 PM
I don't do FB but I do post from the road all the time...
In fact, I'm doing it noJfuooooerghql;dojfpGaHAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....

Baconeater
03-05-2012, 05:41 PM
The notion that a law is going to change anything is laughable.

Johnny Vegas
03-05-2012, 05:42 PM
I don't do FB but I do post from the road all the time...
In fact, I'm doing it noJfuooooerghql;dojfpGaHAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....

I get all his casino cash!!!

Johnny Vegas
03-05-2012, 05:43 PM
The notion that a law is going to change anything is laughable.

just like the War on Drugs. The War on Technology continues...

notorious
03-05-2012, 05:55 PM
Check your sarcasometer.

Sorry, it was broken after a Monday from hell.


My bad. :D

R8RFAN
03-05-2012, 06:01 PM
stuff it. 75 is the MPH and I pass cops going 80 without ever getting pulled over. 30 mph on the interstate is actually more dangerous than going 5 mph over the speed limit. Its absolutely against the law to go less than 45 on the interstate. Truck drivers won't ever pass another truck till a car gets about 100 feet from the trailer then only to cut off and have us slow down to and wait 15 miles for a trucker to pass another trucker. **** agendas. Stay out of the passing lane if you can't meet the speed.

You still slowed down didn't you?

DaFace
03-05-2012, 06:05 PM
stuff it. 75 is the MPH and I pass cops going 80 without ever getting pulled over. 30 mph on the interstate is actually more dangerous than going 5 mph over the speed limit. Its absolutely against the law to go less than 45 on the interstate. Truck drivers won't ever pass another truck till a car gets about 100 feet from the trailer then only to cut off and have us slow down to and wait 15 miles for a trucker to pass another trucker. Fuck agendas. Stay out of the passing lane if you can't meet the speed.

That is not "absolutely" true. It is in some areas, it isn't in others.

R8RFAN
03-05-2012, 06:06 PM
stuff it. 75 is the MPH and I pass cops going 80 without ever getting pulled over. 30 mph on the interstate is actually more dangerous than going 5 mph over the speed limit. Its absolutely against the law to go less than 45 on the interstate. Truck drivers won't ever pass another truck till a car gets about 100 feet from the trailer then only to cut off and have us slow down to and wait 15 miles for a trucker to pass another trucker. **** agendas. Stay out of the passing lane if you can't meet the speed.

Also quit dragging ass in the hammer lane with your lights on bright and he wouldn't get out there.... You are a bad driver

R8RFAN
03-05-2012, 06:08 PM
Trucks don't have a minimum speed on the interstate unless they are doing 15 on a flat road.... We own the road and you may as well get over it.

Setsuna
03-05-2012, 06:14 PM
Trucks don't have a minimum speed on the interstate unless they are doing 15 on a flat road.... We own the road and you may as well get over it.

We? What is this some brotherhood? You guys are like biker gangs, and actual gangs now? What is your version of bloods and crips?

R8RFAN
03-05-2012, 06:15 PM
We? What is this some brotherhood? You guys are like biker gangs, and actual gangs now? What is your version of bloods and crips?

Thats right dumbass, get used to it and sit your ass back there and smile because we don't give a damn how close you get to our bumper or about run off the side of the road to let us know you are there.

Brock
03-05-2012, 06:18 PM
Look at the drivermonkey trolling the board. Dance monkey, dance!

Baconeater
03-05-2012, 06:19 PM
Thats right dumbass, get used to it and sit your ass back there and smile because we don't give a damn how close you get to our bumper or about run off the side of the road to let us know you are there.
No, I've had enough truck drivers get irate with me for getting to close to the back of their trucks to know that you DO in fact give a damn. Why it bothers them I'll never know, it's not like my crappy little minivan poses some sort of threat to them.

R8RFAN
03-05-2012, 06:21 PM
No, I've had enough truck drivers get irate with me for getting to close to the back of their trucks to know that you DO in fact give a damn. Why it bothers them I'll never know, it's not like my crappy little minivan poses some sort of threat to them.

Oh hell Buggy, some people get pissed off about everything but that is not something that pisses me off... I usually lift the accelerator a little and go slower but I never do stupid shit like jam the brakes. It's fun to see people chewing on the steering wheel but I don't want to see them die

R8RFAN
03-05-2012, 06:23 PM
Look at the drivermonkey trolling the board. Dance monkey, dance!

I would have you chewing on the steering wheel and shaking your fist at me from the safety of your car.

Brock
03-05-2012, 06:24 PM
I would have you chewing on the steering wheel and shaking your fist at me from the safety of your car.

Truck drivers around here stay in the RH lane, so I guess they're a smarter breed of monkey.

R8RFAN
03-05-2012, 06:26 PM
Truck drivers around here stay in the RH lane, so I guess they're a smarter breed of monkey.

Must be, I bet you are one of those who ride the lane that is suppose to be closed and when the orange barrels are coming up you beg the trucker to let you in... I know your type, in your wood grain mini van.

notorious
03-05-2012, 06:30 PM
I would have you chewing on the steering wheel and shaking your fist at me from the safety of your car.

A trucker friend of mine said that he has seen a few guys spanking their monkey while driving.


Is he bullshitting me?

R8RFAN
03-05-2012, 06:31 PM
A trucker friend of mine said that he has seen a few guys spanking their monkey while driving.


Is he bullshitting me?

Hell no, those weirdos will drive up beside you at night and turn on the light and they are buttering their corn

alnorth
03-05-2012, 06:32 PM
I won't even talk on the phone while driving, even if its hands-free. I can't imagine texting in the car.

R8RFAN
03-05-2012, 06:34 PM
If a person is driving all alone with no cars around I could care less, but when they are in a pack and swerving because they are typing and driving with their elbows it's pure ignorance.

rtmike
03-05-2012, 06:37 PM
The interstate freeway system was built for the transportation of goods & the military first & foremost.

Easy 6
03-05-2012, 06:49 PM
The only way to really stop texting & driving lies with the phone makers & coverage providers, theres got to be a way to disable that function while in a vehicle.

Despite the stupidity of her youth, thats just a very sad story... probably saw the back of that truck coming up for just a fraction of a second, knowing what she'd just said. Sad. Hopefully its a springboard for some kind of national campaign to put the hammer to kids at school about it & create real, technological fixes for it.

rtmike
03-05-2012, 06:52 PM
While I was in crane rental, at first I was on the old cranes. The old P & H's.

There's a hill going west out of Portland, the Sunset Highway. Those old cranes would struggle to hit 5 mph going up that hill, hell the top speed of some of them was only 40 mph.

I used to have people passing me honking their horn telling me I'm #1 all the time. I'd just laugh & wave. I was backing up traffic making $25 an hour, I was in no hurry to get anywhere. Of course after 8 hours it was $37.50 so give me the bird all you want. :D

Brock
03-05-2012, 06:55 PM
The only way to really stop texting & driving lies with the phone makers & coverage providers, theres got to be a way to disable that function while in a vehicle.

Why should they disable that function in a vehicle? Not everybody in a car is driving the car.

mlyonsd
03-05-2012, 06:58 PM
Texting or attempting to dial your phone while driving is more dangerous than driving what they call legally drunk now. States are putting laws on the books to stop it but the hard thing is catching people doing it.

Easy 6
03-05-2012, 07:01 PM
Why should they disable that function in a vehicle? Not everybody in a car is driving the car.

Yeah, i understand those kind of arguments & thats why its going to be so tough to find a fix that works, but it needs to happen imo.

Its like having another set of drunks on the road.

mlyonsd
03-05-2012, 07:01 PM
Why should they disable that function in a vehicle? Not everybody in a car is driving the car.Good question. I suppose though we'll end up with a like version of an open container law.

stonedstooge
03-05-2012, 07:06 PM
Extremely difficult to pass laws to protect people from themselves

Gonzo
03-05-2012, 07:08 PM
We? What is this some brotherhood? You guys are like biker gangs, and actual gangs now? What is your version of bloods and crips?

You know why Truckers have their names on the back of their belts???



So bikers know who they're fucking.

Bearcat
03-05-2012, 07:08 PM
You can pay a hell of a lot of attention, but if you come up a hill and there's a !@#$ing tanker truck doing 15 on a highway, you're in a little bit of trouble either way.

No question that she shouldn't have been texting, but there but for the grace of God goes anyone that swears they'd have never hit that truck. A situation like that could pop up if you're simply changing the radio station or sneezing. A 65 mph difference closes in a hurry and 80 mph on an interstate is hardly unreasonable (I know I'm at 80-85 for most of my trip down 44 through OK or 35 through KS).

Those trucks that take their sweet-ass time on the highway are dangerous as hell. Especially when it's late and you're on hilly terrain where you kinda struggle to pick up distance as you go up and down over the hills and don't have a prolonged lock on whatever you're coming up on. It makes it really tough to gauge their speed.


Exactly. The math behind the studies about how texting while driving is just as bad as drunk driving show your reaction time is only marginally worse... it takes a situation like this, where you might be fucked no matter what you were doing.


stuff it. 75 is the MPH and I pass cops going 80 without ever getting pulled over. 30 mph on the interstate is actually more dangerous than going 5 mph over the speed limit. Its absolutely against the law to go less than 45 on the interstate. Truck drivers won't ever pass another truck till a car gets about 100 feet from the trailer then only to cut off and have us slow down to and wait 15 miles for a trucker to pass another trucker. **** agendas. Stay out of the passing lane if you can't meet the speed.

I wish people would do that more often... I passed a cop going about 2-3 over the other day, and I looked back a few minutes later and there were two lanes of about 20 cars each behind the cop.

And I've always wondered if that's a game with truck drivers... after noticing it several times, I'd sit back and watch one behind another for a couple of miles, just to speed up, and sure enough that's the exact moment they decide to play leapfrog.

Valiant
03-05-2012, 07:27 PM
I am sorry, but fuck her parents and anyone else that believes in a law that says ban texting and using your phone.. What about passengers, what about gps/navigation/pandora on the phones..

Fuck they might as well ban radios, eating, and adjusting your mirrors.. I guess they will be arresting a lot of cops as I see them talking on their cell phones all the time..

ThatRaceCardGuy
03-05-2012, 07:37 PM
One less donk fan !

( too soon ? )

Psyko Tek
03-05-2012, 07:47 PM
Agree about the trucks. There is a minimum speed limit on interstate highways, and it's a lot higher than 15 mph.

but he was texting this hot teenage girl trying to get some truckstop loving

scho63
03-05-2012, 07:49 PM
Texting is SIX TIMES more deadly than drunk driving. That stat alone should scare the hell out of every student and parents of kids who are text fanatics

Setsuna
03-05-2012, 08:04 PM
Thats right dumbass, get used to it and sit your ass back there and smile because we don't give a damn how close you get to our bumper or about run off the side of the road to let us know you are there.
I got my truck swiped by a truck driver. Safe to say, my truck got repaired and he most likely got in trouble for it. I'm not proud of it, but to say you all get away with anything is laughable.

You know why Truckers have their names on the back of their belts???



So bikers know who they're ****ing.
ROFLROFL Impressive gonzo, impressive.

Bearcat
03-05-2012, 08:07 PM
Texting is SIX TIMES more deadly than drunk driving. That stat alone should scare the hell out of every student and parent of kids who are text fanatics

Meh, it's a matter of 1-2 car lengths at 60-70mph, similar to driving with a BAC of 0.08. Nobody even knows what the girl was actually doing at the time, and it's pretty surprising the video in the OP hardly even mentions the semi moving at 15mph.... she may have very well been fucked no matter what she was doing at that moment.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=6892171&postcount=98
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7033605&postcount=31
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8117856&postcount=115

Easy 6
03-05-2012, 08:14 PM
I am sorry, but **** her parents and anyone else that believes in a law that says ban texting and using your phone.. What about passengers, what about gps/navigation/pandora on the phones..

**** they might as well ban radios, eating, and adjusting your mirrors.. I guess they will be arresting a lot of cops as I see them talking on their cell phones all the time..

Then dont bitch when you or someone you love gets t-boned by some stupid kid, or anyone else.

Brock
03-05-2012, 08:36 PM
Then dont bitch when you or someone you love gets t-boned by some stupid kid, or anyone else.

Because car accidents never happened before the advent of the cellphone.

munkey
03-05-2012, 08:48 PM
At least the idiot only killed herself with her stupidity..

The hwy speed limit in Idaho is 75Mph...the truck driver should have had the hazard lights on...55 in a 75? Do the math...guarantee the state is sued for wrongful death...

Simplicity
03-05-2012, 08:53 PM
Too bad there weren't more Bronco fans in the car with her.

As funny as it is... Not sure if it is very appropriate. :hmmm:

Easy 6
03-05-2012, 09:43 PM
Because car accidents never happened before the advent of the cellphone.

Ok, i guess all of the research proving how bad texting & driving is, is all some pointless hoax.

Ok.

KS Smitty
03-05-2012, 10:10 PM
I don't understand all the hate for the truckers. They are driving a hell of a lot more vehicle and (understandably) need a lot more room to maneuver. I have seen a lot of dumbass drivers do stupid shit around big rigs thinking they have the same ability to navigate as a regular vehicle. That's just not the case. If I'm behind an 18 wheeler I do my best to stay in sight of his rear-view mirrors and understand that while it may take awhile they want to get down the road just like everyone else. What's happened to common courtesy? They're just trying to make a living and if they do something that pisses you off I bet that they have been screwed with by some other driver that doesn't even care and think that they own the road. It's a 2 way street folks.

110010x
03-05-2012, 10:12 PM
What an unfortunate situation.

Mk19
03-05-2012, 10:23 PM
Thankfully her stupidity didn't kill anyone else.

R8RFAN
03-06-2012, 02:31 AM
Seriously here is the deal

1 We are GOVERNED at 65 or so, just get the hell away from me.
2 Going up a mountain and passing a truck going one mph slower than me is because my RPMS are up and if I lose my RPMs it may mean the difference of going 35 or 25 mph up a mountain, thus causing more aggravated cars.
3 Most truck drivers do not intentionally try to piss cars off and would love to ride in the right lane all day long but there is usually some dumbass car going 60 in a 65mph zone.. I gotta go, I have a job to do.

How to get along with trucks... It's very simple, just follow me or pass me, I could care less just get the fuck away from me, there is no reason to ride beside a truck when the traffic is light, you are playing with fire and if something goes wrong, you are gonna lose because you barely come up to my feet in my truck, just get on around and go on. Teach your women this men...

I have not been in an accident with a car since 1988, I currently have 15 years in a row of safe driving, I know what the fuck I am doing.
I have never hurt anyone while driving, I don't tailgate, I don't punish you or risk your life when you do something stupid...

If you are in such a hurry, you probably should try leaving earlier.

CoMoChief
03-06-2012, 03:07 AM
I'm guilty of texting a driving......i just do it at a stoplight.

Johnny Vegas
03-06-2012, 04:05 AM
I don't understand all the hate for the truckers. They are driving a hell of a lot more vehicle and (understandably) need a lot more room to maneuver. I have seen a lot of dumbass drivers do stupid shit around big rigs thinking they have the same ability to navigate as a regular vehicle. That's just not the case. If I'm behind an 18 wheeler I do my best to stay in sight of his rear-view mirrors and understand that while it may take awhile they want to get down the road just like everyone else. What's happened to common courtesy? They're just trying to make a living and if they do something that pisses you off I bet that they have been screwed with by some other driver that doesn't even care and think that they own the road. It's a 2 way street folks.

truckers always cut you off and leap frog at low speeds when you're in the passing lane and they're trailing another trucker while you try and pass the two. Its very dangerous. I always slow down for another car to pass. I hate those assholes that speed up when you're trying to pass and I feel like its those same asshole's behind the wheel of an 18 wheeler not wanting anyone to pass them. Like they're some fuckin highway hero because of their job discrepancy.

Johnny Vegas
03-06-2012, 04:09 AM
You still slowed down didn't you?

you bet your ass I slowed down. In my state trucks can only go 65 and the rest can go 75. I anticipate slowing down for all trucks, but when you cut me off to pass another going up hill in a steep pass you're a fucking asshole for slowing me down knowing I was coming up on the passing lane as you sit in your commute lane and cut me off to pass the truck in front of you when the speed limit gives me the essential right of way allowing the higher speed for me.

Bearcat
03-06-2012, 06:41 AM
How to get along with trucks... It's very simple, just follow me or pass me, I could care less just get the fuck away from me, there is no reason to ride beside a truck when the traffic is light, you are playing with fire and if something goes wrong, you are gonna lose because you barely come up to my feet in my truck, just get on around and go on. Teach your women this men...


That's just good advice... people spend so much time passing trucks, and it's really damn annoying. I'll watch a car drive up behind a truck going 5mph over the speed limit, just to slow down and take their damn time while they're driving right next to one. WTF? GTFO out of there.

Rain Man
03-06-2012, 10:38 AM
That's just good advice... people spend so much time passing trucks, and it's really damn annoying. I'll watch a car drive up behind a truck going 5mph over the speed limit, just to slow down and take their damn time while they're driving right next to one. WTF? GTFO out of there.

Yeah, there's too much that can go wrong when you're in a car next to a truck. I too am surprised that this doesn't get taught more. When I'm driving on a highway and want to pass a truck I won't even try until I can see that there's enough space ahead of it for me to accelerate by it without pause.

And I have no real justification of this other than a fading knowledge of physics, but I won't pass a big truck on an outside turn if at all possible. If something goes wrong and the truck is on the inside, it's going to be headed my way. I'll pass on the inside of a turn or on a straightaway, thank you very much.

On a related note, I'm also surprised by how little understanding there is of blind spots in cars. It always makes me grumble when I see a car or pickup gaining ground behind me, and then instead of passing me they end up sitting in my blind spot for a while. Never sit in another vehicle's blind spot. Either pass them or slow down. I don't understand why this isn't taught more.

And of course, this all applies to non-urban driving. In urban highway driving everyone is kind of screwed by traffic volume and you just have to make the best of it.

Frazod
03-06-2012, 10:42 AM
Whenever I buy a new car the first thing I get for it is the round stick-on spot mirrors for the rear view mirrors. Very helpful in eliminating blind spots.

Rain Man
03-06-2012, 10:47 AM
Whenever I buy a new car the first thing I get for it is the round stick-on spot mirrors for the rear view mirrors. Very helpful in eliminating blind spots.

Do those really help? I've seen them but I've never used them.

Since my car is a convertible I don't have blind spots in the summer. But in the winter I've got a big blind spot. The difference is a little confusing too, because in the summer I generally don't use the side view mirrors and just glance over my shoulder. In the winter that doesn't work at all.

Radar Chief
03-06-2012, 10:54 AM
Seriously here is the deal

1 We are GOVERNED at 65 or so, just get the hell away from me.
2 Going up a mountain and passing a truck going one mph slower than me is because my RPMS are up and if I lose my RPMs it may mean the difference of going 35 or 25 mph up a mountain, thus causing more aggravated cars.
3 Most truck drivers do not intentionally try to piss cars off and would love to ride in the right lane all day long but there is usually some dumbass car going 60 in a 65mph zone.. I gotta go, I have a job to do.

How to get along with trucks... It's very simple, just follow me or pass me, I could care less just get the **** away from me, there is no reason to ride beside a truck when the traffic is light, you are playing with fire and if something goes wrong, you are gonna lose because you barely come up to my feet in my truck, just get on around and go on. Teach your women this men...

I have not been in an accident with a car since 1988, I currently have 15 years in a row of safe driving, I know what the **** I am doing.
I have never hurt anyone while driving, I don't tailgate, I don't punish you or risk your life when you do something stupid...

If you are in such a hurry, you probably should try leaving earlier.

You are? Is that a state thing? I know they’re not governed in Kansas, pretty sure Oklahoma, Missouri and Texas are the same way.

Radar Chief
03-06-2012, 10:56 AM
Do those really help? I've seen them but I've never used them.

I think so.
The side mirrors on Mrs. Radar’s ’57 Ford are on the fenders and basically useless without those dome stick-on mirror things.

Frazod
03-06-2012, 11:03 AM
Do those really help? I've seen them but I've never used them.

Since my car is a convertible I don't have blind spots in the summer. But in the winter I've got a big blind spot. The difference is a little confusing too, because in the summer I generally don't use the side view mirrors and just glance over my shoulder. In the winter that doesn't work at all.

Yes, they help a great deal. For a couple of bucks, you can't go wrong putting them on.

Fire Me Boy!
03-06-2012, 12:09 PM
I think so.
The side mirrors on Mrs. Radar’s ’57 Ford are on the fenders and basically useless without those dome stick-on mirror things.

Yes, quite useful. I had some on my Explorer, and soon will be getting them for the Volvo.

R8RFAN
03-06-2012, 12:42 PM
Let me explain something else...

There are cowboys out there , everybody knows this and there are many that give the good drivers a bad name...

I can Promise you there is nothing more a driver loves than being in his own space in the right lane, I wish I never had to hit the left lane.

Sit in the drivers seat for a minute, as I said earlier my truck will go 65-66 mph MAX on flat ground.. I am in a 65mph zone, and a car is going 60 mph in front of you.. You check your mirrors (I never cut people off) and then get into the left lane to pass, as soon as you do this car driver somehow gets hypnotized by your trailer(s) and automagically he is now riding beside you doing the EXACT same speed as you and you are maxed out... so what do you do? I usually back off slow enough to get back behind him as to not clog the hammer lane but as soon as you get behind him, he reduces his speed back to 60 and you play this game for the next 15 miles until he decides to take a call or exit.

I don't want to be in the hammer lane because it reduces my vision and safety to be out there...
I don't want to be first, I don't want to pass you, I would rather you just go on and get away from me. Lots of men do this but Women are the worst .

Now you guys can think I am being cocky but I have seen the carnage these vehicles can cause after being in this business since 1986, Don't believe me? Look at the Mythbusters below and see what can happen when a shredded tire goes thru your windshield.. Mudflaps don't stop this, I have actually been driving and had a tire explode and it rips the who mudflap and bracket off and those things are tough...

Next time you think of driving beside a big truck or tailgating one, remember this video. Oh and one more thing... This is 40mph not 65mph
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R8RFAN
03-06-2012, 12:50 PM
You are? Is that a state thing? I know they’re not governed in Kansas, pretty sure Oklahoma, Missouri and Texas are the same way.

Most Company trucks are governed anywhere from 62 to 70 for insurance purposes

Bowser
03-06-2012, 02:21 PM
Helloooo Darwin awards!



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Totally putting this on my daughter's FB page.

Bump
03-06-2012, 02:46 PM
Ive said it before, texting and driving is way more dangerous than driving while drunk, especially since women prob do it way more and they already have a driving handicap, unless you r extremely fucked up drunk though. But the irony in her death is almost funny