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ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2012, 06:44 PM
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Eric Winston has visits lined up with Dolphins, Chiefs, Rams, per league source.

O.city
03-13-2012, 06:45 PM
Holy Balls.

saphojunkie
03-13-2012, 06:45 PM
CAME HERE TO POST THIS.


Don't let that guy on the plane out of MCI.

Bewbies
03-13-2012, 06:45 PM
Boner City!

DA_T_84
03-13-2012, 06:45 PM
Whew.

O.city
03-13-2012, 06:45 PM
How can the Rams afford him?

ChiefMojo
03-13-2012, 06:45 PM
THANK YOU!!!!! :thumb:

Count Alex's Wins
03-13-2012, 06:46 PM
We have more money than either of those teams.

DO IT.

CaliforniaChief
03-13-2012, 06:46 PM
Show him a pile of cash.

Pestilence
03-13-2012, 06:46 PM
Blank check time.

SPATCH
03-13-2012, 06:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UUzTB.gif

bevischief
03-13-2012, 06:46 PM
To the ship!

Fritz88
03-13-2012, 06:46 PM
Polio fucking sucks

Baconeater
03-13-2012, 06:46 PM
Well shit, I guess I'll go put the dining room back together.

DeezNutz
03-13-2012, 06:46 PM
How can the Rams afford him?

The cap has always meant next to nothing.

That's why Whitlock ran his "no salary cap limit soldiers" routine...before he quit on air, of course.

htismaqe
03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
Well shit, I guess I'll go put the dining room back together.

ROFL

Pestilence
03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UUzTB.gif

ROFL

That was totally my reaction.

saphojunkie
03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
Polio ****ing sucks

Then he should siphon gas out of Winston's return flight.

TEX
03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
How can the Rams afford him?

Because the salary cap is a myth, but is often used as an excuse by the Chiefs not to do something...

ChiefsCountry
03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
How can the Rams afford him?

They cleared a bunch of space this afternoon.
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saphojunkie
03-13-2012, 06:48 PM
ROFL

That was totally my reaction.

Literally had my fist in the air in the office.

htismaqe
03-13-2012, 06:48 PM
Because the salary cap is a myth, but is often used as an excuse by the Chiefs not to do something...

This.

O.city
03-13-2012, 06:48 PM
I bet he just like KC bbq

zonachief
03-13-2012, 06:48 PM
sweet!

Discuss Thrower
03-13-2012, 06:49 PM
2 to 1 on CC sez he signs with the field vs KC

Paperboy405
03-13-2012, 06:49 PM
BUT clark is CHEAP!!!

saphojunkie
03-13-2012, 06:49 PM
I bet he just like KC bbq

And St. Louis style ribs. He wanted some Carolina pulled pork, but the Panthers are set at tackle.

zonachief
03-13-2012, 06:50 PM
When does he land in KC? Lets get the choppers in the air!!!!

KcMizzou
03-13-2012, 06:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UUzTB.gifLMAO Awesome

O.city
03-13-2012, 06:50 PM
Jesus, a top of the league player hits the market that plays a position that the Chiefs desperately need.


This won't happen. Makes to much sense.


Maybe by giving up Carr, we can land this guy, Routt and Soliai?

Jerm
03-13-2012, 06:51 PM
Will he get outta Miami? That's the real question.

Okie_Apparition
03-13-2012, 06:51 PM
Dolphins are retarded
scratch them

htismaqe
03-13-2012, 06:51 PM
BUT clark is CHEAP!!!

http://www.deviantart.com/download/85835276/FILL_DA_BLANK___Mr_Stubborn_by_qwertypictures.jpg

Sure-Oz
03-13-2012, 06:51 PM
His brother works in the dolphins front office

seaofred
03-13-2012, 06:51 PM
His brother is a scout for the Dolphins...

O.city
03-13-2012, 06:52 PM
Yeah Clarks not cheap.


He's probably making Winston pay for his flight and cab ride to Arrowhead.

NJChiefsFan
03-13-2012, 06:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UUzTB.gif

Wow thats perfect.

seaofred
03-13-2012, 06:52 PM
His brother works in the dolphins front office

Dang, beat me by seconds.

DeezNutz
03-13-2012, 06:53 PM
Our GM gets fucked by the daughter of a former member of the Dolphins FO.

saphojunkie
03-13-2012, 06:53 PM
His brother works in the dolphins front office

He's a scout. Not the same thing. It's not like they'd be hanging out on Tuesdays at the complex.

Annnnnd...that means you assume:

A) His brother is happy there.
B) His brother is staying there.

New coaches, new scouts. Happens pretty often.

CaliforniaChief
03-13-2012, 06:53 PM
Our GM gets fucked by the daughter of a former member of the Dolphins FO.

ROFL

The Don Does Dallas.

TEX
03-13-2012, 06:55 PM
Our GM gets ****ed by the daughter of a former member of the Dolphins FO.


:LOL: ROFL :clap:

Shaid
03-13-2012, 06:57 PM
Get him in and don't let him leave without a fucking signature.

Pestilence
03-13-2012, 06:59 PM
Get him in and don't let him leave without a fucking signature.

Yeah, I bet his autograph will be worth a lot of money as a Dolphin.

saphojunkie
03-13-2012, 07:00 PM
Get him in and don't let him leave without a ****ing signature.

You know what offer to make this guy...

http://static.tumblr.com/n0seiv1/u9Rln8mjm/tumblr_lmu894rxom1qbar4bo1_500.gif

prhom
03-13-2012, 07:01 PM
BUT clark is CHEAP!!!

He's not signed yet!

prhom
03-13-2012, 07:04 PM
Yeah Clarks not cheap.


He's probably making Winston pay for his flight and cab ride to Arrowhead.

Heh, that's probably why Manning wouldn't come here. Clark told him to catch a bus to KC and we'd split the cost with him. Then Denver called and said their G5 was on the way.

The Bad Guy
03-13-2012, 07:04 PM
The odds of Winston leaving Miami, a place he loves, are slim to none. If the Chiefs want him, offer him above market value without a visit.

BigChiefFan
03-13-2012, 07:05 PM
You know what offer to make this guy...

http://static.tumblr.com/n0seiv1/u9Rln8mjm/tumblr_lmu894rxom1qbar4bo1_500.gif

Friggin' awesome. :thumb:

O.city
03-13-2012, 07:06 PM
The odds of Winston leaving Miami, a place he loves, are slim to none. If the Chiefs want him, offer him above market value without a visit.

This.


He went to the U and probably loves the are.


It's gonna cost some coin. Come on Clark, this is what you have been spitting up for years. "We have the money" . Make a move.

TheGuardian
03-13-2012, 07:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UUzTB.gif

LOL great gif.

Okie_Apparition
03-13-2012, 07:11 PM
He looks too much like Sandusky, Eric
don't go there

saphojunkie
03-13-2012, 07:19 PM
This.


He went to the U and probably loves the are.


It's gonna cost some coin. Come on Clark, this is what you have been spitting up for years. "We have the money" . Make a move.

The Chiefs shouldn't try to beat miami's offer.



They should fucking annihilate it with atomics.

saphojunkie
03-13-2012, 07:20 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/41078/chiefs-going-after-eric-winston

The Kansas City Chiefs might be ready to spend some big money in free agency. ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting the Chiefs are one of three teams that have a visit setup with standout right tackle Eric Winston who was a surprise salary-cap dump in Houston

Schefter reports Miami and St. Louis are also looking to visit with Winston. He would be a terrific fit in Kansas City. He’d be a major upgrade over Barry Richardson, who was the weak link of Kansas City’s offensive line. Winston would solidify a unit that has been in flux the past few years. The University of Miami product started every game for the past five years in Houston.

Signing Winston would also likely allow the Chiefs to concentrate on signing either a defensive tackle or linebacker in the first round of the draft.

The Chiefs – who have franchise receiver Dwayne Bowe and who have added cornerback Stanford Routt – have a lot of salary cap room and should be able to sign Winston if they chose to. The Chiefs are entertaining Seattle tight end John Carlson on Tuesday.

In other AFC West news:

Oakland free-agent Michael Bush bashed folks for reporting that he is visiting the Cardinals. Bush earlier tweeted that he was in Arizona, but said nothing about visiting the Cardinals.

Schefter is reporting that Denver free agent Eddie Royal does not yet have a deal done with the Redskins. It has been reported elsewhere that the deal is done. Yet, Schefter said both sides are working to finalize a deal. It makes sense. Royal performed well for Washington coach Mike Shanahan as a rookie in Denver in 2008.

The Raiders have officially announced they have cut tight end Kevin Boss. His release was first reported Monday. His agent tweeted earlier Tuesday he expected his client to be cut Wednesday.

Schefter reported that the Broncos were one of a few teams to opt to take the extra $1.6 million in salary cap room next year instead of this year. Most teams were given the extra cap room because cap money was taken away from the Redskins and the Cowboys because of cap infractions. The Raiders were one of two teams not to be rewarded extra cap room because of a lesser infraction. The Raiders didn’t face any more penalties.

Yet another veteran guard is available. Carolina cut Travelle Wharton. If the Chargers want a veteran to replace the recently retired Kris Dielman, they’ll have their choice. However, the team will likely put Tyronne Green at the spot.

Strongside
03-13-2012, 07:23 PM
http://dash.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/132899336949.gif

TheGuardian
03-13-2012, 07:29 PM
No way he gets out of Miami more than likely.

If he does make it here, don't let him leave.

Shaid
03-13-2012, 07:30 PM
You know what offer to make this guy...

http://static.tumblr.com/n0seiv1/u9Rln8mjm/tumblr_lmu894rxom1qbar4bo1_500.gif
ROFL
That's how Pioli rolls.

chiefzilla1501
03-13-2012, 07:46 PM
I actually think Pioli will dump a lot of money on Winston. And Solilai. And Tolbert.

It's the same bullshit stubborn way of saying "we're not wrong about the QB. Let's surround him with weapons." We're the only team in the league that's building in spite of our QB instead of building around a QB.

Sorry... this is great news. But it just feels like we're spending money on a dog and pony show, when this team is clearly not going to win with the QB we have.

Omaha
03-13-2012, 07:49 PM
Yeah Clarks not cheap.


He's probably making Winston pay for his flight and cab ride to Arrowhead.

Only reimburse him if he signs. I'm cool with that.

BigChiefFan
03-13-2012, 07:52 PM
I actually think Pioli will dump a lot of money on Winston. And Solilai. And Tolbert.

It's the same bullshit stubborn way of saying "we're not wrong about the QB. Let's surround him with weapons." We're the only team in the league that's building in spite of our QB instead of building around a QB.

Sorry... this is great news. But it just feels like we're spending money on a dog and pony show, when this team is clearly not going to win with the QB we have.

No, but if the team is complete minus the QB, that should make people like you get on board with rolling the dice and moving up for a QB. :hmmm:

Okie_Apparition
03-13-2012, 07:53 PM
It's going to be a Cowher situation
suffer through trash until we get a Roethlisberger
they were competitive though

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2012, 07:59 PM
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#Texans cut RT Eric Winston as waived/failed physical. The reason: Ankle surgery. He'll be fine in 2 weeks. Story coming asap @foxsports.com

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03-13-2012, 08:01 PM
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#Texans cut RT Eric Winston as waived/failed physical. The reason: Ankle surgery. He'll be fine in 2 weeks. Story coming asap @foxsports.com

Oh no. I don't think we should sign him unless he can throw at least 50 passes to Brandon Stokley.

chiefzilla1501
03-13-2012, 08:03 PM
No, but if the team is complete minus the QB, that should make people like you get on board with rolling the dice and moving up for a QB. :hmmm:

I've said all along I'd be willing to trade up big time in 2013 for a QB. I'd be okay with Orton as a starter for 1 year, if that's the intention -- to be a stopgap for doing that. I think we could easily end up with someone like Tyler Wilson or Aaron Murray or Tyler Bray (if those 2 declare). I'd take any one of those guys over a guy like Ponder, Tannehill, or Locker. I think next year's class could have potential to be a fairly deep QB class.

I've always wanted to trade up for a QB. But RGIII was going to cost us way too much.

BigChiefFan
03-13-2012, 08:17 PM
I've said all along I'd be willing to trade up big time in 2013 for a QB. I'd be okay with Orton as a starter for 1 year, if that's the intention -- to be a stopgap for doing that. I think we could easily end up with someone like Tyler Wilson or Aaron Murray or Tyler Bray (if those 2 declare). I'd take any one of those guys over a guy like Ponder, Tannehill, or Locker. I think next year's class could have potential to be a fairly deep QB class.

I've always wanted to trade up for a QB. But RGIII was going to cost us way too much.

See, that's where we differ. If I see the team has all the starting pieces to the puzzle and only lack the franchise QB, I give as many of picks as it takes to get my guy, within reason.

I don't think the Redskins gave up too much, if they really see him as their guy and he grades out to their qualifications.

I don't see RG3 as that guy, but I'd do it for Luck, if the Colts decided to part with the pick.

chiefzilla1501
03-13-2012, 08:20 PM
See, that's where we differ. If I see the team has all the starting pieces to the puzzle and only lack the franchise QB, I give as many of picks as it takes to get my guy, within reason.

I don't think the Redskins gave up too much, if they really see him as their guy and he grades out to their qualifications.

I don't see RG3 as that guy, but I'd do it for Luck, if the Colts decided to part with the pick.

I don't have a problem with the Redskins' compensation.

I have a huge problem with what it would have taken to match the Redskins' compensation.

BigCatDaddy
03-13-2012, 08:22 PM
So Smith is out in Saint Louie?

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2012, 08:22 PM
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The Ravens are interested in free agent offensive tackle Eric Winston, according to a league source



This guy is gonna cost us alot.Thats about 10 teams that like him

O.city
03-13-2012, 08:23 PM
If the Ravens are gonna sign the guy, they have to let Grubbs walk. Sign him then.

Fritz88
03-13-2012, 08:26 PM
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This guy is gonna cost us alot.Thats about 10 teams that like him

Foggedabouthim.

O.city
03-13-2012, 08:27 PM
He's a top 2 or 3 RT in the league. I think we knew alot of teams would be in on him.


Gotta come in strong and snag him.

Strongside
03-13-2012, 08:28 PM
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This guy is gonna cost us alot.Thats about 10 teams that like him

Clark?

lol

Easy 6
03-13-2012, 08:32 PM
BUT clark is CHEAP!!!

Lets bump chests AFTER he actually signs.

Rausch
03-13-2012, 08:33 PM
Lets bump chests AFTER he actually signs.

How 'bout we all raise our glasses and skip the uncomfortable man-touching?...

O.city
03-13-2012, 08:36 PM
Well, take the Rams of that list.

T-post Tom
03-13-2012, 08:43 PM
http://gifs.gifbin.com/4007g6675.gif

Easy 6
03-13-2012, 08:44 PM
How 'bout we all raise our glasses and skip the uncomfortable man-touching?...

If you insist, but theres really nothing wrong with a celebratory, manly chest bump.

ct
03-13-2012, 08:50 PM
Our GM gets ****ed by the daughter of a former member of the Dolphins FO.

We all get fucked by the GM who gets ****ed by the daughter of a former member of the Dolphins FO. So what?

Simply Red
03-13-2012, 09:01 PM
how much of a badass is this guy?

ZootedGranny
03-13-2012, 09:03 PM
how much of a badass is this guy?

I once saw him slap a grown man back into infancy.

T-post Tom
03-13-2012, 09:05 PM
how much of a badass is this guy?

He made Chuck Norris cry and he scared a tumor off of Priest Holmes' spine.

Simply Red
03-13-2012, 09:09 PM
I once saw him slap a grown man back into infancy.

http://i43.tinypic.com/a12rec.gif

O.city
03-13-2012, 09:11 PM
We really need to get this guy.

aturnis
03-13-2012, 11:13 PM
@ProFootballTalk
Texans cut Winston with failed physical designation after ankle surgery: http://t.co/gNmhHAEj

Mr. Laz
03-13-2012, 11:15 PM
@ProFootballTalk
Texans cut Winston with failed physical designation after ankle surgery: http://t.co/gNmhHAEj

Texans released Winston with failed physical designation

Posted by Evan Silva on March 14, 2012, 12:06 AM EDT

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The Texans’ Monday night release of longtime right tackle Eric Winston caught a lot of folks by surprise.

FOX Sports’ Alex Marvez reports that the Texans cut Winston with a “failed physical” designation.

Per Marvez, Winston underwent arthroscopic ankle surgery in February. He anticipates receiving full medical clearance in two weeks, and has already begun scheduling visits.

Winston visited the Dolphins on Tuesday night.

Florio has reported that Winston also plans to visit the St. Louis Rams and Kansas City Chiefs.

:hmmm:

The Bad Guy
03-13-2012, 11:20 PM
Yep. This is the Chiefs. Big FA class and the Chiefs first visit is with a tight end that can't stay healthy.

BossChief
03-13-2012, 11:22 PM
Good, he might be a little cheaper, then.

I bet before Clark pays for a new car, he scratches it first so he can ask for money off.

BigChiefFan
03-13-2012, 11:24 PM
Yep. This is the Chiefs. Big FA class and the Chiefs first visit is with a tight end that can't stay healthy.



Short of getting at least Tolbert, Winston, and/or Soliai, I'm pretty much done paying another dime to these fucks. It's looking more and more like they are bilking the fans, taxpayers, and the NFL out of millions.

BossChief
03-13-2012, 11:25 PM
Yep. This is the Chiefs. Big FA class and the Chiefs first visit is with a tight end that can't stay healthy.

Yeah, no shit.

Carlson, hillis and Winston were all "hurt"

But, yeah that's pretty much every NFL player after you've been in the league a few years.

Mr. Laz
03-13-2012, 11:27 PM
Yep. This is the Chiefs. Big FA class and the Chiefs first visit is with a tight end that can't stay healthy.
right tackle and he's only missed 4 games in his 6 year career.

The Bad Guy
03-13-2012, 11:28 PM
right tackle and he's only missed 4 games in his 6 year career.

The first visit is with Carlson. Day one of FA and the first visit is John Carlson.

The Bad Guy
03-13-2012, 11:29 PM
Yeah, no shit.

Carlson, hillis and Winston were all "hurt"

But, yeah that's pretty much every NFL player after you've been in the league a few years.

Carlson is hurt all the time. I don't know why you pair him with Moeaki.

O.city
03-13-2012, 11:32 PM
We have to sign this guy.


Would take RT form a weakness to a strong point.

Mr. Laz
03-13-2012, 11:33 PM
The first visit is with Carlson. Day one of FA and the first visit is John Carlson.
I see

Wasn't Carlson just one serious injury?

i think he had a sprained knee in college for a few games but other than that i wasn't aware of any injury history.

O.city
03-13-2012, 11:34 PM
He had a concussion in the playoffs I think a few years ago.


Wasn't he pretty highly regarded coming out?

Messier
03-13-2012, 11:35 PM
Carlson is hurt all the time. I don't know why you pair him with Moeaki.

So is Eric Berry, and Jamaal Charles. Can't count on these injury prone players.

WildTurkey
03-13-2012, 11:36 PM
I see

Wasn't Carlson just one serious injury?

i think he had a sprained knee in college for a few games but other than that i wasn't aware of any injury history.

That's what I was thinking. He's an upgrade over Pope so I've got no problem trying to add a pretty good receiving tight end


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The Bad Guy
03-13-2012, 11:39 PM
So is Eric Berry, and Jamaal Charles. Can't count on these injury prone players.

It's hardly the same thing.

O.city
03-13-2012, 11:39 PM
Carlson, if healthy, would be a solid depth free agent signing.


Winston would be a home run.

O.city
03-13-2012, 11:41 PM
Bad Guy, I know you are down on Carlson but I'm curious if you know anything about him?


I remember he played at ND and has had some pretty good seasons in Seattle but thats about it.

Rain Man
03-13-2012, 11:44 PM
I always mix up Eric Winston and Winston Justice. I know that one of them is good and other one isn't, but can never remember which is which. Is Eric the good one?

WildTurkey
03-13-2012, 11:45 PM
Carlson, if healthy, would be a solid depth free agent signing.


Winston would be a home run.

Team needs depth all over and TE is one of those spots... Pope and O'Connell are not up to snuff.. Carlson would be a nice signing


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chefsos
03-13-2012, 11:53 PM
I always mix up Eric Winston and Winston Justice. I know that one of them is good and other one isn't, but can never remember which is which. Is Eric the good one?He tastes good, like a cigarette should.

Messier
03-14-2012, 12:27 AM
It's hardly the same thing.

Three players who have been healthy, except for one season.

booger
03-14-2012, 02:54 AM
Carlson has plenty to do with Parmalee coaching him at ND.

I'd rather have Martellus Bennett or Kellen Davis

dannybcaitlyn
03-14-2012, 06:17 AM
Carlson has plenty to do with Parmalee coaching him at ND.

I'd rather have Martellus Bennett or Kellen Davis

I agree I'd take Bennett before Carlson.

KC Tattoo
03-14-2012, 08:35 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n136/finechild238/Redneck%20Stuff/th_larry-cable-guy.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/larry the cable guy/finechild238/Redneck Stuff/larry-cable-guy.jpg?o=318)

Chiefnj2
03-14-2012, 08:38 AM
Why was Winston released?

The Bad Guy
03-14-2012, 08:38 AM
Three players who have been healthy, except for one season.

Carlson's always banged up with something.

You are asking him to backup another often injured guy.

It doesn't make an ounce of sense.

RUSH
03-14-2012, 08:40 AM
Why was Winston released?

Pretty sure it was because they have a passable backup for Winston but nothing behind Myers. So they are gonna use Winstons money to sign Myers since they are so close to the cap and couldn't fit both under.

sedated
03-14-2012, 08:40 AM
Just posturing by the Chiefs. Another way to say “we are trying, so buy season tickets”.

wazu
03-14-2012, 08:41 AM
Why was Winston released?

He failed his physical after ankle surgery.

58-4ever
03-14-2012, 08:45 AM
He failed his physical after ankle surgery.

I think this definitely played a role.

Chiefnj2
03-14-2012, 08:52 AM
Pretty sure it was because they have a passable backup for Winston but nothing behind Myers. So they are gonna use Winstons money to sign Myers since they are so close to the cap and couldn't fit both under.

Thanks. I have no opinion on the guy whatsoever.

I browsed some Texans boards and the general consensus was that he was a good run blocker but bad against speed rushers.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-14-2012, 09:57 AM
Some team will overpay and give him 9 million a year with a ridiculous bonus.

Pestilence
03-14-2012, 10:27 AM
The first visit is with Carlson. Day one of FA and the first visit is John Carlson.

And then Carlson cut the visit short and is on his way to sign with the Vikings.

ROFL

SNR
03-14-2012, 10:30 AM
Thanks. I have no opinion on the guy whatsoever.

I browsed some Texans boards and the general consensus was that he was a good run blocker but bad against speed rushers.
Does anybody know a single RT in the NFL who's good against speed rushers?

I say that jokingly, but I'll bet you could ask a fan of any team in the NFL what they think of their RT and they'd all say the same thing: "Eh... he's fantastic at run blocking but really seems to struggle against speed rushers off the edge"

htismaqe
03-14-2012, 10:33 AM
Does anybody know a single RT in the NFL who's good against speed rushers?

I say that jokingly, but I'll bet you could ask a fan of any team in the NFL what they think of their RT and they'd all say the same thing: "Eh... he's fantastic at run blocking but really seems to struggle against speed rushers off the edge"

Good point.

My guess is guys that can handle speed rushers off the edge play LEFT tackle. :)

SNR
03-14-2012, 11:08 AM
Good point.

My guess is guys that can handle speed rushers off the edge play LEFT tackle. :)In a way, it's kind of the same thing with the Belcher haters around here. They blame stuff like KC's susceptibility to deep TE patterns on Belcher.

Yes, if the offense is about to throw, it's Belcher's job to cover his man and stop the play from happening. But that's not the first job of an ILB in this particular 3-4 scheme.

RTs have a far more pressing need to protect the passer, but if they can't get out in space and maul defenders on run plays, then they're just as worthless as a halfback who's great in pass protection but can't run worth shit.

Okie_Apparition
03-14-2012, 12:41 PM
You don't need to sign an all world right tackle
unless he's the only guy available

Chocolate Hog
03-14-2012, 12:42 PM
You don't need to sign an all world right tackle
unless he's the only guy available

Ummm

Bump
03-14-2012, 12:44 PM
this guy would be a tremendous upgrade over the current player for that position. So, AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!! HAHAHAA

Pioli is probably laughing his ass off being like "I'll talk about bringing these guys in for a visit so it looks like I'm working"

Dave Lane
03-14-2012, 12:48 PM
this guy would be a tremendous upgrade over the current player for that position. So, AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!! HAHAHAA

Pioli is probably laughing his ass off being like "I'll talk about bringing these guys in for a visit so it looks like I'm working"

Dude is busy. You know how many gum wrappers are in the parking lot? He has to watch each one to see who picks it up.

TEX
03-14-2012, 12:50 PM
Thanks. I have no opinion on the guy whatsoever.

I browsed some Texans boards and the general consensus was that he was a good run blocker but bad against speed rushers.


They're wrong. I've seen the guy play many times. They're just looking to justify the cut. It was all cap related and Eric was not willing to restructure - and he shouldn't because he's worth the $$$. He is a very solid RT in both run and pass support. Ask the Baltimore Ravens. This guy is coming into his prime and will be an excellent pick-up for whoever signs him. The Texans blew this one. But, it's a risk they're willing to take because they're deep. Oh - he's also an all-around-good-guy. He did alot for the Houston community.

BossChief
03-14-2012, 01:14 PM
Might as well stop talking about it.

No way we get into a bidding war with Winston with Brandon Alberts contract only having one year left on it.

Even if that wasn't a factor, I wouldn't give it more than a 10% chance of happening.

Before anyone argues that point, try to think of the last FA we won a bidding war for...

Pestilence
03-14-2012, 01:16 PM
Might as well stop talking about it.

No way we get into a bidding war with Winston with Brandon Alberts contract only having one year left on it.

Even if that wasn't a factor, I wouldn't give it more than a 10% chance of happening.

Before anyone argues that point, try to think of the last FA we won a bidding war for...

I asked the question yesterday.

When is the last time (in the Pioli era) that we have signed a FA when he had more than a visit with just us?

Chocolate Hog
03-14-2012, 01:17 PM
If Winston is signed to protect Cassel I don't want him.

Micjones
03-14-2012, 01:18 PM
If Winston is signed to protect Cassel I don't want him.

I do. He helps Charles too.
:thumb:

TEX
03-14-2012, 01:21 PM
I asked the question yesterday.

When is the last time (in the Pioli era) that we have signed a FA when he had more than a visit with just us?

This needs to be the first...This guy can play. Instant upgrade in every way.

The Bad Guy
03-14-2012, 01:24 PM
I asked the question yesterday.

When is the last time (in the Pioli era) that we have signed a FA when he had more than a visit with just us?

Stanford Routt.

Pestilence
03-14-2012, 01:25 PM
Stanford Routt.

One guy?

Frosty
03-14-2012, 01:28 PM
One guy?

There can only be one last time.

Fritz88
03-14-2012, 01:47 PM
So we've signed only one guy (Routt) in free agency so far?
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BigChiefFan
03-14-2012, 01:53 PM
Routt doesn't equate to shit, if we lose Carr. We'd be filling a hole with a weaker player who'll most likely need to be replaced before Carr would have.

I consider it a step backwards, if we don't improve elsewhere in FA.

WV
03-14-2012, 01:54 PM
Routt doesn't equate to shit, if we lose Carr. We'd be filling a hole with a weaker player who'll most likely need to be replaced before Carr would have.

I consider it a step backwards, if we don't improve elsewhere in FA.

Carr is gone....signed with Dallas.

BigChiefFan
03-14-2012, 01:57 PM
Carr is gone....signed with Dallas.

They said the dude that gave the information is bogus and not to believe him. Unless you've got a link with a legit news source about it. I'm not buying it.

I also most think it's a ruse by his agent to drive up his price.

-King-
03-14-2012, 01:59 PM
Routt doesn't equate to shit, if we lose Carr. We'd be filling a hole with a weaker player who'll most likely need to be replaced before Carr would have.

I consider it a step backwards, if we don't improve elsewhere in FA.

Routt is not that much worse than Carr and for 4+ mil a year less, its a good deal.
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BigChiefFan
03-14-2012, 02:07 PM
Routt is not that much worse than Carr and for 4+ mil a year less, its a good deal.
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I could care less about the money. It's a step backwards at the position.

The idea is to improve your team, every year, not settle for almost as good.

Like I said earlier, if we don't improve in other areas in FA, I consider it a step backwards, because it is.

Carr is better than Routt and he's younger-it's that simple.

The smart plan is to think long-term and lock those players up, not settle for second best and have to think of Routt's replacement in 3 years, while Carr is still coming into his prime.

In five years time, his contract will look like a good deal, when he's one of the top CBs and Routt is looking to find a job.

Settle?? We've settled for too damn long.

TheGuardian
03-14-2012, 02:12 PM
Didn't see this posted in here. If so, suck my nuts.



http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2012/3/14/2871014/chiefs-nfl-free-agency-2012

The folks over at Arrowhead Pride are relieved to find out that Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli had not forgotten about the start of free agency. In fact, Kansas City had an interesting day on Tuesday with visits from some quality prospects.

Among those players is OT Eric Winston, who was the staple of a solid offensive line with the Houston Texans but was cut earlier this week to create extra cap space. Winston's availability caught most by surprise, but it certainly gained interest from the Chiefs.

After Winston made his first visit, which was to the Miami Dolphins where he is brother Matt works as a scout, he made the trip to Kansas City, where he would fill a much needed position with the team.

Messier
03-14-2012, 02:12 PM
I could care less about the money. It's a step backwards at the position.

The idea is to improve your team, every year, not settle for almost as good.

Like I said earlier, if we don't improve in other areas in FA, I consider it a step backwards, because it is.

Carr is better than Routt and he's younger-it's that simple.

The smart plan is to think long-term and lock those players up, not settle for second best and have to think of Routt's replacement in 3 years, while Carr is still coming into his prime.

In five years time, his contract will look like a good deal, when he's one of the top CBs and Routt is looking to find a job.

Settle?? We've settled for too damn long.

Carr pretty much played himself out of being a second option at CB, and the Chiefs picked their 1 CB last year. Routt is not quite as good, but he's not some huge drop off, and he'll make 2nd CB money. I'm not mad or upset about all this. I'd be nice to keep Carr, but it was clear early that he wanted, and could get a big contract on the open market.

BigChiefFan
03-14-2012, 02:13 PM
Didn't see this posted in here. If so, suck my nuts.



http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2012/3/14/2871014/chiefs-nfl-free-agency-2012

The folks over at Arrowhead Pride are relieved to find out that Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli had not forgotten about the start of free agency. In fact, Kansas City had an interesting day on Tuesday with visits from some quality prospects.

Among those players is OT Eric Winston, who was the staple of a solid offensive line with the Houston Texans but was cut earlier this week to create extra cap space. Winston's availability caught most by surprise, but it certainly gained interest from the Chiefs.

After Winston made his first visit, which was to the Miami Dolphins where he is brother Matt works as a scout, he made the trip to Kansas City, where he would fill a much needed position with the team.

Nice. Any news of a visit from a quality FA is welcomed.

dirk digler
03-14-2012, 02:17 PM
Didn't see this posted in here. If so, suck my nuts.



http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2012/3/14/2871014/chiefs-nfl-free-agency-2012

The folks over at Arrowhead Pride are relieved to find out that Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli had not forgotten about the start of free agency. In fact, Kansas City had an interesting day on Tuesday with visits from some quality prospects.

Among those players is OT Eric Winston, who was the staple of a solid offensive line with the Houston Texans but was cut earlier this week to create extra cap space. Winston's availability caught most by surprise, but it certainly gained interest from the Chiefs.

After Winston made his first visit, which was to the Miami Dolphins where he is brother Matt works as a scout, he made the trip to Kansas City, where he would fill a much needed position with the team.

Cool. Hopefully they won't let him leave until he has a contract signed

O.city
03-14-2012, 02:19 PM
If he is indeed in town today, sign his ass.

the Talking Can
03-14-2012, 02:21 PM
Didn't see this posted in here. If so, suck my nuts.



http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2012/3/14/2871014/chiefs-nfl-free-agency-2012

The folks over at Arrowhead Pride are relieved to find out that Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli had not forgotten about the start of free agency. In fact, Kansas City had an interesting day on Tuesday with visits from some quality prospects.

Among those players is OT Eric Winston, who was the staple of a solid offensive line with the Houston Texans but was cut earlier this week to create extra cap space. Winston's availability caught most by surprise, but it certainly gained interest from the Chiefs.

After Winston made his first visit, which was to the Miami Dolphins where he is brother Matt works as a scout, he made the trip to Kansas City, where he would fill a much needed position with the team.

good thing no one at the Star thought it was important to report on this....I'm sure they more important things to do, like...

BigChiefFan
03-14-2012, 02:26 PM
The thing that worries me is, it says he visited on TUESDAY. Today is Wednesday.

Strongside
03-14-2012, 02:34 PM
The thing that worries me is, it says he visited on TUESDAY. Today is Wednesday.

Yeah, I think that may be a typo. He scheduled visits with Miami and KC yesterday...

BigChiefFan
03-14-2012, 02:35 PM
Yeah, I think that may be a typo. He scheduled visits with Miami and KC yesterday...

I hope so and they make a serious run at this guy. We've trotted that sieve out there long enough.

Pestilence
03-14-2012, 02:36 PM
Didn't see this posted in here. If so, suck my nuts.



http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2012/3/14/2871014/chiefs-nfl-free-agency-2012

The folks over at Arrowhead Pride are relieved to find out that Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli had not forgotten about the start of free agency. In fact, Kansas City had an interesting day on Tuesday with visits from some quality prospects.

Among those players is OT Eric Winston, who was the staple of a solid offensive line with the Houston Texans but was cut earlier this week to create extra cap space. Winston's availability caught most by surprise, but it certainly gained interest from the Chiefs.

After Winston made his first visit, which was to the Miami Dolphins where he is brother Matt works as a scout, he made the trip to Kansas City, where he would fill a much needed position with the team.

See....why the fuck does this information not come out? You hear about people visiting....and then jack shit.

Rep for the post.

TheGuardian
03-14-2012, 02:36 PM
Just go "how much do you want?"

"this much"

"done"

Fritz88
03-14-2012, 02:43 PM
Just go "how much do you want?"

"this much"

"done"

Polio : Hello Eric, we've got a nice contract lined up for you.

Winston : Cool, what do you have?

Polio : 5 years, 12 million with .6 million guaranteed. Here's the real kicker though, we've managed to give you unlimited free upsize at JambaJuice and free Fridays at BurgerKing. You will love it.

Winston

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xztop12
03-14-2012, 02:43 PM
I could care less about the money. It's a step backwards at the position.

The idea is to improve your team, every year, not settle for almost as good.

Like I said earlier, if we don't improve in other areas in FA, I consider it a step backwards, because it is.

Carr is better than Routt and he's younger-it's that simple.

The smart plan is to think long-term and lock those players up, not settle for second best and have to think of Routt's replacement in 3 years, while Carr is still coming into his prime.

In five years time, his contract will look like a good deal, when he's one of the top CBs and Routt is looking to find a job.

Settle?? We've settled for too damn long.



You have no idea what you're talking about.

Route is better in man coverage than Carr. Carr is better in zone than Route. Do you want to play press man and get after the QB, or do you want to play that zone D and watch Dorsey and Tyson struggle to apply any pressure at all

Pestilence
03-14-2012, 02:44 PM
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Route is better in man coverage than Carr. Carr is better in zone than Route. Do you want to play press man and get after the QB, or do you want to play that zone D and watch Dorsey and Tyson struggle to apply any pressure at all

:spock: lolwut?

Mr. Laz
03-14-2012, 02:48 PM
so is Winston actually IN town right now?

the Talking Can
03-14-2012, 02:49 PM
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Route is better in man coverage than Carr. Carr is better in zone than Route. Do you want to play press man and get after the QB, or do you want to play that zone D and watch Dorsey and Tyson struggle to apply any pressure at all

have you ever even watched our defense?

Carr is excellent in man coverage

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BigChiefFan
03-14-2012, 02:53 PM
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Route is better in man coverage than Carr. Carr is better in zone than Route. Do you want to play press man and get after the QB, or do you want to play that zone D and watch Dorsey and Tyson struggle to apply any pressure at all

Are you kidding me?? He's a ball-hawk in man-coverage.

SNR
03-14-2012, 03:12 PM
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Route is better in man coverage than Carr. Carr is better in zone than Route. Do you want to play press man and get after the QB, or do you want to play that zone D and watch Dorsey and Tyson struggle to apply any pressure at allYou know what's a good song? Routt 66

I don't think Route is that good, though. Hell, I didn't even know he was in the NFL

SNR
03-14-2012, 03:13 PM
Seriously though, Routt is NOT better in man coverage.

He has the reputation of being better in man coverage because THAT'S ALL HE KNOWS HOW TO DO. He's an inferior player in all other ways compared to Carr.

Our CB2 is going to get toasty this season.

ChiefMojo
03-14-2012, 03:22 PM
SNR you make Routt out to be trash, which he isn't. He struggled some as the #1 guy this past season but he has always proved to be a very good #2. What is he in KC... that is right a #2!

Also remember Carr has been a #2 guy and this is his chance to be a #1 guy now... time will tell how that goes as well. Most in football thought Routt would be a very good #1 also.

Chiefnj2
03-14-2012, 03:23 PM
SNR you make Routt out to be trash, which he isn't. He struggled some as the #1 guy this past season but he has always proved to be a very good #2. What is he in KC... that is right a #2!

Not this crap again. He'll be the right CB. KC doesn't have a #1 or #2.

O.city
03-14-2012, 03:23 PM
In regards to Winston, we should have a contract ready for him to sign the minute he steps off Clarks plane.

penguinz
03-14-2012, 03:38 PM
Not this crap again. He'll be the right CB. KC doesn't have a #1 or #2.That was Gunther's D. Flowers is lined up on the #1 WR in this D.

Chiefnj2
03-14-2012, 03:42 PM
That was Gunther's D. Flowers is lined up on the #1 WR in this D.

Flowers lines up on the left side of the D.

SNR
03-14-2012, 03:59 PM
SNR you make Routt out to be trash, which he isn't. He struggled some as the #1 guy this past season but he has always proved to be a very good #2. What is he in KC... that is right a #2!

Also remember Carr has been a #2 guy and this is his chance to be a #1 guy now... time will tell how that goes as well. Most in football thought Routt would be a very good #1 also.He's not trash, sure.

But he's not as good as Carr. If we gave Routt a cheap contract, fine, I can handle that. We didn't. We overpaid out the ass for Routt and let Carr walk.

If we're not going to sign Soliai, Winston, Manning, or any other player who could really make a difference for this fucking team, the least we could do is re-sign the good players we DO have. I don't care if we would have overpaid for Carr. He's a significant upgrade to Routt for not all that much of a difference in price.

BossChief
03-14-2012, 04:04 PM
Flowers lines up on the left side of the D.

Some of you have no idea what you're talking about.

Next year, Flowers will still be covering the opposing teams #1 over 80% of the time. It's not like teams change a WRs whole position week in and week out to move him to match up against the weaker corner.

A WR is either an x, y or z...very few learn all three spots.

The talk about Carr NOT being a #2 corner in KC is fools talk.

Routt will be facing the same guys Carr used to and now Carr will be facing increased competition from the guy he will be facing during games and probably won't do as well as he did in KC because of that.

BossChief
03-14-2012, 04:08 PM
He's not trash, sure.

But he's not as good as Carr. If we gave Routt a cheap contract, fine, I can handle that. We didn't. We overpaid out the ass for Routt and let Carr walk.

If we're not going to sign Soliai, Winston, Manning, or any other player who could really make a difference for this fucking team, the least we could do is re-sign the good players we DO have. I don't care if we would have overpaid for Carr. He's a significant upgrade to Routt for not all that much of a difference in price.

We didn't repay for Routt.

That contract is structured PERFECTLY for the team.

Chiefnj2
03-14-2012, 04:09 PM
Some of you have no idea what you're talking about.

Next year, Flowers will still be covering the opposing teams #1 over 80% of the time. It's not like teams change a WRs whole position week in and week out to move him to match up against the weaker corner.

A WR is either an x, y or z...very few learn all three spots.

The talk about Carr NOT being a #2 corner in KC is fools talk.

Routt will be facing the same guys Carr used to and now Carr will be facing increased competition from the guy he will be facing during games and probably won't do as well as he did in KC because of that.

Revis will match up and follow an opposing teams #1 WR for an entire game. KC doesn't do that. They play left and right corner. The offensive gameplan dictates which receiver they will cover.

BigChiefTablet
03-14-2012, 04:25 PM
Countdown to "Eric Winston signs with somebody other than the Chiefs" thread.

Pestilence
03-14-2012, 04:27 PM
I don't know who this Brandon Carr guy is.....but can you keep him out of this Eric Winston thread?

L.A. Chieffan
03-14-2012, 04:27 PM
Eric Steinbach is available

htismaqe
03-14-2012, 04:32 PM
Eric Steinbach is available

And he's from the tree!

L.A. Chieffan
03-14-2012, 04:34 PM
And he's from the tree!

you know romeo is about to give him 30 mil guaranteed

Count Alex's Wins
03-14-2012, 04:36 PM
And he's from the tree!

Perfect Scott Pioli signing. He can be our new Ryan O'Failaghan

http://i42.tinypic.com/34fdzy0.jpg

L.A. Chieffan
03-14-2012, 04:38 PM
Really low penalties! Bring him in

L.A. Chieffan
03-14-2012, 04:39 PM
lol Wade Smith

Count Alex's Wins
03-14-2012, 04:40 PM
Holy fuck. Steinbach was the worst guard in the league in 2009.

I want Scott Pioli to sign this piece of shit so we can have absolute proof he's just a great big dumbass that needs to be fired.

whoman69
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
Eric Steinbach is available

Who says we need a guard? The guy was ruined in Cincy and drug down even further with the Browns?

L.A. Chieffan
03-14-2012, 05:45 PM
Who says we need a guard? The guy was ruined in Cincy and drug down even further with the Browns?

just wait, when he signs with random team X and this board will go apeshit

O.city
03-14-2012, 05:48 PM
At this point, sign Winston and draft Decastro. Done with the oline.



Gotta do something this offseason.

saphojunkie
03-14-2012, 05:50 PM
Hey look at that. Justin Blalock and Brian Waters, #10 and #11.

aturnis
03-14-2012, 05:59 PM
Hey look at that. Justin Blalock and Brian Waters, #10 and #11.

Justin Blalock has never played for the Chiefs.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-14-2012, 06:34 PM
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RT @McClain_on_NFL: Eric Winston visiting St. Louis and Baltimore<Heading to KC tomorrow for FA visit. Posting soon at



He's in kc tomorrow

O.city
03-14-2012, 06:35 PM
Damn it.


Get the guy in here and sign him. Tomorrow.


Overpay if we have too.

bricks
03-14-2012, 06:35 PM
At this point, sign Winston and draft Decastro. Done with the oline.



Gotta do something this offseason.

I agree with this.

Chocolate Hog
03-14-2012, 06:36 PM
Winston is here tomorrow?

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-14-2012, 06:36 PM
Winston is here tomorrow?

Yes https://twitter.com/#!/alexmarvez

O.city
03-14-2012, 06:37 PM
Don't let him leave tomorrow. Do not let it happen.

bevischief
03-14-2012, 06:38 PM
Don't let him leave tomorrow. Do not let it happen.

Make it happen. To the ship!

milkman
03-14-2012, 06:39 PM
Don't let him leave tomorrow. Do not let it happen.

Bet he never makes it here.

Either Baltimore or St Louis never lets him leave without a contract.

But hey, the Chiefs can say they tried.

O.city
03-14-2012, 06:40 PM
I don't think he visits them until after us, not sure though?

BossChief
03-14-2012, 06:47 PM
Believing we will sign a blue chip guy like Winston is right up there with the Easter bunny or Santa at this point.

If it NEVER HAPPENS the reason for that is unlikely to change until it's forcibly changed and that doesn't start till next year.

Sorry

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-14-2012, 06:56 PM
Updated Mar 14, 2012 7:52 PM ET





One of the NFL’s hottest offensive line commodities is set to make his second stop on a free-agency tour.





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After meeting with the Miami Dolphins on Wednesday, a source told FOXSports.com that Eric Winston is heading to Kansas City for a Thursday meeting with the Chiefs.

St. Louis and Baltimore also have shown strong interest, the source said.

Winston is the most attractive right tackle on the free-agent market after his surprising release Monday by Houston. Winston, 28, started every game the past five seasons for one of the NFL’s most prolific offenses.

The Dolphins are seeking to bolster the right side of their offensive line with both 2011 starters (guard Vernon Carey and tackle Mark Colombo) now free agents. As first reported by FOXSports.com, Cleveland guard/tackle Artis Hicks is meeting Wednesday night with the Dolphins.

Mr. Laz
03-14-2012, 06:58 PM
signing Winston is really pretty important at this point

O.city
03-14-2012, 07:04 PM
This would be a huge signing for the Chiefs. I'm feeling like Boss that it probably won't happen, but it has got too.


We have the need, the money. Make it happen.


WOuld allow the offensive line to be completely solidified with a pick of Decastro.

TheGuardian
03-14-2012, 07:04 PM
This would be our best signing this offseason without question.

That right side of the line, Barry suckscocks Richardson, has been a drive killer for the past two seasons.

I took shit for throwing that guy under the bus. I knew he would never develop. He sucks and I hope someone sets him on fire.

Crush
03-14-2012, 07:07 PM
This would be our best signing this offseason without question.

That right side of the line, Barry suckscocks Richardson, has been a drive killer for the past two seasons.

I took shit for throwing that guy under the bus. I knew he would never develop. He sucks and I hope someone sets him on fire.

I'll supply the gasoline.

Messier
03-14-2012, 07:08 PM
This would be a huge signing for the Chiefs. I'm feeling like Boss that it probably won't happen, but it has got too.


We have the need, the money. Make it happen.


WOuld allow the offensive line to be completely solidified with a pick of Decastro.

Maybe, hopefully, the Chiefs are getting itchy about how players are getting signed from under them, and will make it happen.

If they signed Winston and Boss tomorrow, I'd feel a lot better.

O.city
03-14-2012, 07:10 PM
We have Winston, Boss, and Tolbert here tomorrow. Lock them up.

CupidStunt
03-14-2012, 07:10 PM
Winston wants to "win now" and he obviously wants to get paid. LOL at the idea of KC signing him. That visit's just for show and a bargaining tool to get coin from a legit team.

O.city
03-14-2012, 07:13 PM
We have the coin. Just sign the guy. Overpay if we have too.

Messier
03-14-2012, 07:14 PM
Winston wants to "win now" and he obviously wants to get paid. LOL at the idea of KC signing him. That visit's just for show and a bargaining tool to get coin from a legit team.

Good friends with Winston are you?

CaliforniaChief
03-14-2012, 07:14 PM
So we're the first team to get a visit with Tolbert, the 2nd to get a shot at Winston?

O.city
03-14-2012, 07:15 PM
Yep, and neither don't need to leave.

CupidStunt
03-14-2012, 07:16 PM
Good friends with Winston are you?

Not familiar with the Chiefs?

BossChief
03-14-2012, 09:19 PM
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The Dolphins were not able to close OT Eric Winston today. Talks continue but he's moving on to other teams and scheduled visits.

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03-14-2012, 09:20 PM
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The Dolphins were not able to close OT Eric Winston today. Talks continue but he's moving on to other teams and scheduled visits.

Yusssss

Messier
03-14-2012, 09:21 PM
Not familiar with the Chiefs?

So you don't know what you're talking about.

Hoover
03-14-2012, 09:29 PM
He said all that matter is that he wants to win. I worry about Baltimore and Detroit.

NFL | Eric Winston to visit four teams
Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:11:33 -0700

Free-agent OT Eric Winston (Texans) is expected to visit the Baltimore Ravens, Detroit Lions, Kansas City Chiefs and St. Louis Rams. "I want to win right now," Winston said Wednesday, March 14. "That's what's important t



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1p9HSp07o

bowener
03-14-2012, 09:32 PM
He needs to sign in KC so Cassel has one less excuse for why he blows dog dicks. Seriously, with the Chiefs WRs, RBs, and a solid O-line, what the fuck could Cassel (Pioli) possibly fall back on?

The new OC?

Chocolate Hog
03-14-2012, 09:32 PM
He said all that matter is that he wants to win. I worry about Baltimore and Detroit.

NFL | Eric Winston to visit four teams
Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:11:33 -0700

Free-agent OT Eric Winston (Texans) is expected to visit the Baltimore Ravens, Detroit Lions, Kansas City Chiefs and St. Louis Rams. "I want to win right now," Winston said Wednesday, March 14. "That's what's important t



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1p9HSp07o

We're the division favorites so.....

bowener
03-14-2012, 09:33 PM
He said all that matter is that he wants to win. I worry about Baltimore and Detroit.

NFL | Eric Winston to visit four teams
Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:11:33 -0700

Free-agent OT Eric Winston (Texans) is expected to visit the Baltimore Ravens, Detroit Lions, Kansas City Chiefs and St. Louis Rams. "I want to win right now," Winston said Wednesday, March 14. "That's what's important t



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1p9HSp07o

Maybe by "winning" he means himself personally? Sort of like Charlie Sheen. Maybe Winston wants $40 million. That would be winning.

BossChief
03-14-2012, 09:33 PM
I could probably forgive this front office for letting Carr walk if we sign Winston.

At least we were proactive in replacing him with a good player and then spent money on a player that is top 5 at his position at a position of huge need for us and has vast experience playing in the same scheme as he would be playing here.

I wonder what the asking price is.

I bet he never steps foot in Kansas City with intent to sign here...if we even bring him in because if I were him, Id be like "my price is 5/40...should I even bother gettting on a plane?"

SPATCH
03-14-2012, 09:37 PM
He said all that matter is that he wants to win. I worry about Baltimore and Detroit.

NFL | Eric Winston to visit four teams
Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:11:33 -0700

Free-agent OT Eric Winston (Texans) is expected to visit the Baltimore Ravens, Detroit Lions, Kansas City Chiefs and St. Louis Rams. "I want to win right now," Winston said Wednesday, March 14. "That's what's important t



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1p9HSp07o

Good news is that the Chiefs present the easiest road to the playoffs out of that group (given denver whiffs on peyton and mario williams)

Hoover
03-14-2012, 09:38 PM
Good point.

TEX
03-14-2012, 09:38 PM
Good news is that the Chiefs present the easiest road to the playoffs out of that group (given denver whiffs on peyton and mario williams)

Mario Williams is not "that" great. He disappears from games far too often.

TEX
03-14-2012, 09:39 PM
I could probably forgive this front office for letting Carr walk if we sign Winston.

At least we were proactive in replacing him with a good player and then spent money on a player that is top 5 at his position at a position of huge need for us and has vast experience playing in the same scheme as he would be playing here.

I wonder what the asking price is.

I bet he never steps foot in Kansas City with intent to sign here...if we even bring him in because if I were him, Id be like "my price is 5/40...should I even bother gettting on a plane?"

This - except I can't forgive our godfather F**K of a GM for letting Carr walk...

Fritz88
03-14-2012, 09:42 PM
I could probably forgive this front office for letting Carr walk if we sign Winston.

At least we were proactive in replacing him with a good player and then spent money on a player that is top 5 at his position at a position of huge need for us and has vast experience playing in the same scheme as he would be playing here.

I wonder what the asking price is.

I bet he never steps foot in Kansas City with intent to sign here...if we even bring him in because if I were him, Id be like "my price is 5/40...should I even bother gettting on a plane?"

If we don't sign him then say hello to an OT in the first round.

T-post Tom
03-14-2012, 09:42 PM
I could probably forgive this front office for letting Carr walk if we sign Winston.

At least we were proactive in replacing him with a good player and then spent money on a player that is top 5 at his position at a position of huge need for us and has vast experience playing in the same scheme as he would be playing here.

I wonder what the asking price is.

I bet he never steps foot in Kansas City with intent to sign here...if we even bring him in because if I were him, Id be like "my price is 5/40...should I even bother gettting on a plane?"

Miami is the favorite as his brother is a scout there. The former Texans' center, Chris Myers, should be on the Chiefs' radar as well. Guy is a stud.

BigChiefFan
03-14-2012, 09:43 PM
I could probably forgive this front office for letting Carr walk if we sign Winston.

At least we were proactive in replacing him with a good player and then spent money on a player that is top 5 at his position at a position of huge need for us and has vast experience playing in the same scheme as he would be playing here.

I wonder what the asking price is.

I bet he never steps foot in Kansas City with intent to sign here...if we even bring him in because if I were him, Id be like "my price is 5/40...should I even bother gettting on a plane?"

I'm good with that, too, but until that happens, I'm not seeing getting rid of Carr to clear way for Hillis as anything to write home about, especially considering it's only a one year deal.

O.city
03-14-2012, 09:51 PM
We have got to lock this guy up tomorrow.



A haul of Winston, Tolbert, and Boss would open this years draft up.

Chocolate Hog
03-14-2012, 09:54 PM
Sign him to a 3 year 24 mil contract 17 mil guarantee

hometeam
03-14-2012, 09:54 PM
^ gonna take more than that.

O.city
03-14-2012, 09:55 PM
Go 4 year 35 mil 18 guarantee

aturnis
03-14-2012, 09:57 PM
He said all that matter is that he wants to win. I worry about Baltimore and Detroit.

NFL | Eric Winston to visit four teams
Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:11:33 -0700

Free-agent OT Eric Winston (Texans) is expected to visit the Baltimore Ravens, Detroit Lions, Kansas City Chiefs and St. Louis Rams. "I want to win right now," Winston said Wednesday, March 14. "That's what's important t



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1p9HSp07o

Last I knew the Lions were like 10 mil over the cap. Then again, the 'Boys were 5 mil over last I knew, and got penalized 10 mil and still got Orton and an expensive Carr.

O.city
03-14-2012, 09:58 PM
If we want this guy bad enough, there is no reason.........



I gotta calm down on this.

wazu
03-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Gotta wonder if this happens, and maybe Boss, too - does Manning re-consider? He's crazy not to. The table would be SET.

ChiefsCountry
03-14-2012, 10:02 PM
Gotta wonder if this happens, and maybe Boss, too - does Manning re-consider? He's crazy not to. The table would be SET.

He is going to Nashville.
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O.city
03-14-2012, 10:03 PM
I don't really knwo where Manning is heading.


I don't think anyone really does.

KC_Lee
03-14-2012, 10:05 PM
He is going to Nashville.
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If he does he might win the AFC South but that is about it.

The Titans are less talented than the Chiefs were when Montana was traded to us.

Hoover
03-14-2012, 10:06 PM
Gotta wonder if this happens, and maybe Boss, too - does Manning re-consider? He's crazy not to. The table would be SET.
Maybe that's the plan? Who knows.

SPATCH
03-14-2012, 10:07 PM
I don't really knwo where Manning is heading.


I don't think anyone really does.

I get a sort of melancholy vibe from Manning about this whole thing...

O.city
03-14-2012, 10:08 PM
The Titans are gonna have to beat the Texans, who are pretty fucking loaded to win the division.

kcpasco
03-14-2012, 10:08 PM
KnowMo should know. Where is he?

ChiefsCountry
03-14-2012, 10:09 PM
If he does he might win the AFC South but that is about it.

The Titans are less talented than the Chiefs were when Montana was traded to us.

On defense but not on offense. Titans have a pretty good core with Chris Johnson, Kenny Britt, Nate Washington and Jared Cook is a pretty good start.
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O.city
03-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Didn't Britt miss the whole season last year with a torn ACL?

evolve27
03-14-2012, 10:12 PM
I don't really knwo where Manning is heading.


I don't think anyone really does.

I want to know where exactly is O. City?

KC_Lee
03-14-2012, 10:13 PM
On defense but not on offense. Titans have a pretty good core with Chris Johnson, Kenny Britt, Nate Washington and Jared Cook is a pretty good start.
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Britt is comming off an ACL injury and CJ is inconsistent at best any more, his numbers have dropped every year since he rushed for 2,000 yards.

Also they need to replace Finnegan at CB.

The Titans are set up to be a good team in a couple of years. They are not going to the Super Bowl if they sign Manning.

Chocolate Hog
03-14-2012, 10:14 PM
On defense but not on offense. Titans have a pretty good core with Chris Johnson, Kenny Britt, Nate Washington and Jared Cook is a pretty good start.
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He's not winning shit with the Titans.

SPATCH
03-14-2012, 10:14 PM
Make no mistake... the Texans are the class of the AFCS whether Manning signs on with Tennessee or not.

O.city
03-14-2012, 10:15 PM
I want to know where exactly is O. City?

It's a mixture of places man.

evolve27
03-14-2012, 10:21 PM
It's a mixture of places man.

:deevee:

Fuk I can't get any true answers on CP. We are all telling each other lies to cover the real truth being that we aren't getting any true FA's this year.

ChiefsCountry
03-14-2012, 10:23 PM
Make no mistake... the Texans are the class of the AFCS whether Manning signs on with Tennessee or not.

Schaub is still the Texans Qb they will still choke.
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milkman
03-14-2012, 10:25 PM
Schaub is still the Texans Qb they will still choke.
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Think we need to see Schaub in the playoffs before we label him a choker.

aturnis
03-14-2012, 10:26 PM
He is going to Nashville.
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but WHY?! I understand he has roots there. He has almost ZERO chance of winning a Superbowl in Tennessee. Period.

They might have finished 9-7 or something like that, but their most quality wins came in week 3 against a Broncos team that started 1-4. The Panthers, and a Schaub-less and mostly Yates-less Texans team that I'm pretty sure rested a lot of their starters after the 1st quarter, if not earlier.

Manning does change things, but he doesn't take them to the Superbowl. Not once not eva!

KC_Lee
03-14-2012, 10:28 PM
but WHY?! I understand he has roots there. He has almost ZERO chance of winning a Superbowl in Tennessee. Period.

They might have finished 9-7 or something like that, but their most quality wins came in week 3 against a Broncos team that started 1-4. The Panthers, and a Schaub-less and mostly Yates-less Texans team that I'm pretty sure rested a lot of their starters after the 1st quarter, if not earlier.

Manning does change things, but he doesn't take them to the Superbowl. Not once not eva!

But it does make the Titans more relevent. Hell every news broadcast, on every channel, has lead with Manning Mania stories.

At best they win the AFC South with Manning and maybe one playoff game.

aturnis
03-14-2012, 10:30 PM
If he does he might win the AFC South but that is about it.

The Titans are less talented than the Chiefs were when Montana was traded to us.

No, Texans win the AFC South...

SPATCH
03-14-2012, 10:32 PM
Schaub is still the Texans Qb they will still choke.
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Start season without Foster, Dre Dre gets hurt, Mario Williams goes down, Schaub goes down, Leinart goes down... shit doesn't matter, still beasted the AFCS and won a playoff game. Bulls on parade, d00d.

aturnis
03-14-2012, 10:33 PM
Start season without Foster, Dre Dre gets hurt, Mario Williams goes down, Schaub goes down, Leinart goes down... shit doesn't matter, still beasted the AFCS and won a playoff game. Bulls on parade, d00d.

This.

Carlota69
03-14-2012, 10:33 PM
I don't really knwo where Manning is heading.


I don't think anyone really does.

I was listening to that Spano guy and he said that Peyton was going to Miami until Brandon Marshall pulled his crap then it was Denver then he went to Az and they had no shot. At this point Peyton had decided to become a bronco but bud Adams begged him to visit tenn, where they offered him and Archie minority ownership. Long story short, Peyton doesn't even know where he's going...

aturnis
03-14-2012, 10:34 PM
Fact is, if the Chiefs land Winston, the only thing keeping Manning from signing here is Pioli.

KC_Lee
03-14-2012, 10:34 PM
No, Texans win the AFC South...

Won't disagree with you, hence the might in my post.