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ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2012, 05:58 PM
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#Browns RB Peyton Hillis will visit the Chiefs, a source told the Plain Dealer.

Chiefnj2
03-13-2012, 05:59 PM
Head case.

The Bad Guy
03-13-2012, 05:59 PM
Right 53 my fucking dick. The guy is a quitting loser.

Pestilence
03-13-2012, 05:59 PM
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Bewbies
03-13-2012, 06:00 PM
Print those bitches!!

Shaid
03-13-2012, 06:00 PM
Rather get BGE than him.

OnTheWarpath58
03-13-2012, 06:00 PM
Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

O.city
03-13-2012, 06:01 PM
He would fit in with Pioli's style. Wants to go to the CIA or somethign.

NJChiefsFan
03-13-2012, 06:01 PM
Rather get BGE than him.

If we sign BGE I will laugh my ass off when he fumbles in the first game. He would be a great signing though.

KCUnited
03-13-2012, 06:01 PM
That's the Peyton Clark was talking about.

O.city
03-13-2012, 06:02 PM
Not real excited about this, but I think alot of guys would have quit if they played for hte Browns.

OnTheWarpath58
03-13-2012, 06:02 PM
That's the Peyton Clark was talking about.

LMAO

ZootedGranny
03-13-2012, 06:02 PM
Hopefully they go after Barret Robbins and the ghost of Justin Strzelczyk next.

siberian khatru
03-13-2012, 06:02 PM
That's the Peyton Clark was talking about.

ROFL

Chiefs=Good
03-13-2012, 06:03 PM
Eh its just a visit. if hes really a head case then it should come across in the interview.. then again it is pioli...

O.city
03-13-2012, 06:03 PM
I guess I'm the only one that actually wouldn't mind this.

Fritz88
03-13-2012, 06:03 PM
Will be a good pick up. Only problem is, he's asking for too much.

NJChiefsFan
03-13-2012, 06:04 PM
I agree with last two posts. If he asks for the right $ and we get him motivated he would be a great 2nd RB IMO.

SPATCH
03-13-2012, 06:04 PM
meh

Bush > Tolbert > Hillis > Green-Ellis

in my opinion

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2012, 06:04 PM
He had his best years under Brian Daboll

SnakeXJones
03-13-2012, 06:04 PM
I guess I'm the only one that actually wouldn't mind this.He is a fun dude to watch thats for sure I second this

Chiefnj2
03-13-2012, 06:05 PM
He quit and faked injuries last year.

O.city
03-13-2012, 06:06 PM
Him and Charles would pair alright together.


If he can stay healthy, he could help our short yardage blues.

NJChiefsFan
03-13-2012, 06:06 PM
meh

Bush > Tolbert > Hillis > Green-Ellis

in my opinion

I could live with any of those 4, assuming KC trusts they can get full effort out of Hillis.

Scorp
03-13-2012, 06:06 PM
Jesus Christ, do you really think this guy can pass a fucking drug test? I sure as hell don't.

ZootedGranny
03-13-2012, 06:06 PM
He wants to join the Chiefs to get CIA-level training in espionage and wire tapping.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2012, 06:06 PM
LMAOHe wants to join the Chiefs to get CIA-level training in espionage and wire tapping.

Bewbies
03-13-2012, 06:07 PM
He quit and faked injuries last year.

Nah, he was saving himself for us.

MeatRock
03-13-2012, 06:08 PM
The Brownsification of the chiefs starts now.

TheGuardian
03-13-2012, 06:08 PM
Hillis is actually really good, just has a shit attitude.

Don't know if that has improved, but if so he'd be a perfect compliment to JC.

Predarat
03-13-2012, 06:10 PM
Wrong Peyton, fuckhead Polly!

Shaid
03-13-2012, 06:10 PM
meh

Bush > Tolbert > Hillis > Green-Ellis

in my opinion

Completely agree on Bush. I'd love a Bush/Charles backfield.

nose
03-13-2012, 06:11 PM
Why?

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2012, 06:12 PM
Peyton Hillisís new home could be in Kansas City.

Hillis, the free agent Browns running back, will pay a visit to the Chiefs, Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.

Although he was one of the NFLís biggest disappointments in 2011, Hillis has shown flashes of talent, especially in 2010 when he had 270 carries for 1,177 yards, added 61 catches for 477 yards, and scored 13 touchdowns. The Chiefs could have themselves a good running attack if they could pair a healthy Hillis with a healthy Jamaal Charles in their backfield.

Hillis checks in at No. 39 on our Free Agent Hot 100.




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#Browns RB Peyton Hillis could sign a short-term deal with another team in the next day or so, nflnetwork's mike lombardi reports

TheGuardian
03-13-2012, 06:13 PM
I personally would like this signing IF his head is on straight.

He's a load of a back. I think he's better than Bush personally, when healthy.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-13-2012, 06:14 PM
He'll sign here. The Daboll hire gave him a stiffy I'm sure.

KurtCobain
03-13-2012, 06:14 PM
This really excites me.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2012, 06:14 PM
But for real how ****ing bad is the local kc media ? they get the chief news from outside kansas city.

Rausch
03-13-2012, 06:15 PM
Completely agree on Bush. I'd love a Bush/Charles backfield.

This.

prhom
03-13-2012, 06:15 PM
Hillis is actually really good, just has a shit attitude.

Don't know if that has improved, but if so he'd be a perfect compliment to JC.

If Daboll is the prick everyone says he should be able to keep him in line right? I'll bet we can get him on the cheap too.

OnTheWarpath58
03-13-2012, 06:15 PM
He'll sign here. The Daboll hired gave him a stiffy I'm sure.

He'll sign here because he's probably been told we're looking to run the ball 800 times next year.

This regime still thinks you can win with a running game and no QB.

BigRichard
03-13-2012, 06:16 PM
meh

Bush > Tolbert > Hillis > Green-Ellis

in my opinion

I think Tolbert makes the most sense to pair with Charles.

Count Zarth
03-13-2012, 06:17 PM
:hail:

This would be an awesome signing.

SNR
03-13-2012, 06:17 PM
Fuck white RBs

TheGuardian
03-13-2012, 06:18 PM
Plus we have to replace Jones with an even more jacked running back........

http://www.hogdb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/peyton-hillis-madden-cover.jpg

prhom
03-13-2012, 06:18 PM
Why?

We could use another running back or two on the roster? If he's cheap why not?

Chiefs=Good
03-13-2012, 06:18 PM
:hail:

This would be an awesome signing.

Balla Ass GM

BigChiefFan
03-13-2012, 06:19 PM
He's pretty salty. He probably has a chip on his shoulder and could give us the power back, we've been needing to compliment Charles. I think he's got some good years left in the tank.

Strongside
03-13-2012, 06:19 PM
I'd like this signing. When he's healthy, this guy is a bruiser. He and Daboll worked great together.

Coogs
03-13-2012, 06:21 PM
Rather get BGE than him.

Not me. BGE just being from New England is three damn big strikes against hiim. Hillis, Bush, Tolbert. Tolbert, Bush, Hillis. In any order I prefer one of those three.

zonachief
03-13-2012, 06:21 PM
Just don't break our first round pick's hand with your face, hillis!

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Okie_Apparition
03-13-2012, 06:21 PM
Will they sign him & the law firm

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2012, 06:22 PM
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Peyton Hillis is as close to a lock in Kansas City as it gets, especially with Brian Daboll (his former OC in Cleveland) as the OC.

Chiefaholic
03-13-2012, 06:22 PM
He'll sign here because he's probably been told we're looking to run the ball 800 times next year.

This regime still thinks you can win with a running game and no QB.

Tim Tebow doesn't approve of your post. :p

Messier
03-13-2012, 06:22 PM
I think Hillis and Charles would be the best one, two punch in the NFL.

lostcause
03-13-2012, 06:22 PM
wtf? He was on the cover of madden last year, bring him in.

Chiefaholic
03-13-2012, 06:24 PM
BTW... I'd guess Hillis wouldn't mind an opportunity to stick it to Denver twice a year.

Okie_Apparition
03-13-2012, 06:25 PM
Jones & McClain are both gone
can Peyton or BJGE be the emergency QB

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03-13-2012, 06:25 PM
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Peyton Hillis is as close to a lock in Kansas City as it gets, especially with Brian Daboll (his former OC in Cleveland) as the OC.

It's getting serious folks

saphojunkie
03-13-2012, 06:26 PM
That's the Peyton Clark was talking about.

ROFL

Nailed it.

Guru
03-13-2012, 06:26 PM
Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

The Brownsification of the Chiefs has begun. :evil:

Strongside
03-13-2012, 06:27 PM
They are keeping Cassel at starter. They're going to try and surround him with enough players to convince us it's a good idea.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2012, 06:30 PM
They are keeping Cassel at starter. They're going to try and surround him with enough players to convince us it's a good idea.

I was just thinking the same thing.

BossChief
03-13-2012, 06:31 PM
If we can find a way to get HILLIS, SOLIAI and WINSTON all signed, it would totally open up the draft.

Hills is gonna be somewhat cheap, so he will be a good fit.

I doubt the other two are signed.

Guru
03-13-2012, 06:32 PM
They are keeping Cassel at starter. They're going to try and surround him with enough players to convince us it's a good idea.

As if the last three years hasn't already proven its not a good idea. BUT he's making progress.

DeezNutz
03-13-2012, 06:33 PM
Hills is gonna be somewhat cheap, so he will be a good fit.

I'm listening. /Clark

Messier
03-13-2012, 06:33 PM
They are keeping Cassel at starter. They're going to try and surround him with enough players to convince us it's a good idea.

I still don't believe it. I can't.

Discuss Thrower
03-13-2012, 06:34 PM
They are keeping Cassel at starter. They're going to try and surround him with enough players to convince us it's a good idea.

Pretty obvious this is what's going to happen.

saphojunkie
03-13-2012, 06:34 PM
They are keeping Cassel at starter. They're going to try and surround him with enough players to convince us it's a good idea.

Fine. I'm 100% fine with that.

If we don't get a Manning or RG3, then what's the point? Kyle Orton would only postpone the inevitable.

If they spend this free agency, surrounding Cassel with more talent than any Chiefs QB ever had, and he fails...they HAVE to draft a QB in the 1st.

The toothpaste is out of the tube. There ain't no putting it back.

NJChiefsFan
03-13-2012, 06:35 PM
I still don't believe it. I can't.

The issue is rational thought vs. Chiefs thought. Thats the reason a lot of Chiefs fans don't believe things. Its not denial, its the issue of thinking too rationally.

MeatRock
03-13-2012, 06:35 PM
If Hillis signs then that means no to Trent Richardson. I honestly can't see Pioli drafting Tannehill, so what the hell do we do with our #1 pick? Hightower?

Messier
03-13-2012, 06:38 PM
If Hillis signs then that means no to Trent Richardson. I honestly can't see Pioli drafting Tannehill, so what the hell do we do with our #1 pick? Hightower?

Poe if he's there. If Winston isn't here, or another FA OT, then best OT.

Strongside
03-13-2012, 06:39 PM
If Hillis signs then that means no to Trent Richardson. I honestly can't see Pioli drafting Tannehill, so what the hell do we do with our #1 pick? Hightower?

Luke Kuechly. Calling it.

Brock
03-13-2012, 06:40 PM
This guy's a quitter and a loser.

BossChief
03-13-2012, 06:41 PM
Riley will be our pick if he is still there.

Count Zarth
03-13-2012, 06:42 PM
Riley will be our pick if he is still there.

Why? If we sign Winston?

Thig Lyfe
03-13-2012, 06:43 PM
I admire your restraint but this would have been a great opportunity for nuthooks.

DeezNutz
03-13-2012, 06:43 PM
Riley will be our pick if he is still there.

I think this would be a really poor selection. Too much talk about whether or not he'll stick at tackle. If that's the case, just cut the bullshit and take the elite guard. I know, I know...

I could also see us going CB, if our new dirty Rutt could transition to safety. In fact, CB would present the most overall value in our slot, though we'd have to take a chance on a player with some character concerns.

O.city
03-13-2012, 06:45 PM
I think this would be a really poor selection. Too much talk about whether or not he'll stick at tackle. If that's the case, just cut the bullshit and take the elite guard. I know, I know...

I could also see us going CB, if our new dirty Rutt could transition to safety. In fact, CB would present the most overall value in our slot, though we'd have to take a chance on a player with some character concerns.

This is very true.


Or you could move Routt to safety, sit tight in the draft round 1 take BPA and take Kirkpatrick in the second round. From what i've seen and heard he sounds somewhat like Carr.

MahiMike
03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
Rather get BGE than him.

Why? He's no complement to Charles. We've been looking for that big back to come in on 3rd and 1 for 5 years now. Hillis or Tolbert is desperately needed on this team!

Rausch
03-13-2012, 06:50 PM
If Hillis signs then that means no to Trent Richardson. I honestly can't see Pioli drafting Tannehill, so what the hell do we do with our #1 pick? Hightower?

Trade down.

Select a T at pick 29 and QB in round 6 to compete with Casshole...:facepalm:

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2012, 06:56 PM
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crazycoffey
03-13-2012, 07:14 PM
I can already see the nuthook threads if we sign him....

the Talking Can
03-13-2012, 07:16 PM
he's a pussy and a quitter

he's perfect to put with cassel

Valiant
03-13-2012, 07:18 PM
He quit and faked injuries last year.

Meh, I would fake also..

I think for the right price he is a great #2 back to compliment a healthy JC..

Fritz88
03-13-2012, 07:19 PM
He flourished with Daboll.

I am all for him (if we can't sign Tolbert)

Chiefnj2
03-13-2012, 07:21 PM
Meh, I would fake also..

I think for the right price he is a great #2 back to compliment a healthy JC..

He's a nut case. He switched agents 4 times last year. He completely quit on the Browns last year. You can say "I would fake also", but I hate to break it to you - KC isn't any better than Cleveland. Both are horrible franchises.

Reerun_KC
03-13-2012, 07:22 PM
Just what this fanbase needs....

Brock
03-13-2012, 07:22 PM
Meh, I would fake also..

I think for the right price he is a great #2 back to compliment a healthy JC..

If you'd fake instead of working for your check, I wouldn't want you on my team either.

DJ's left nut
03-13-2012, 07:22 PM
Why do we hate this?

Hillis is a perfect complementary back for Charles, IMO. Give him 150 - 200 carries and let him pound the piss out of the defensive front to soften it up for Charles.

It's hard to be a prima-donna on a make-good, short term deal. He'll run hard for us, IMO.

Odd, though, that Dabol wants him. If Dabol is interested in having him back, he must not have been that big of a shithead.

I like it.

SPATCH
03-13-2012, 07:22 PM
He'll come cheaper than Tolbert/Bush... meaning there's a 100% possibility he's a Chief.

Chiefnj2
03-13-2012, 07:23 PM
Just what this fanbase needs....

A great white hope? Things haven't been very positive since Boerigter left.

the Talking Can
03-13-2012, 07:24 PM
this is what pioli means by 'right 53'

cassel and hillis

Rausch
03-13-2012, 07:25 PM
Why do we hate this?

Hillis is a perfect complementary back for Charles, IMO.

And if Charles isn't effective or re-injures the leg and we have to depend on a head case to carry the team?

No thanx...

Reerun_KC
03-13-2012, 07:26 PM
A great white hope? Things haven't been very positive since Boerigter left.

:thumb:

Yes sir!!!!

zonachief
03-13-2012, 07:27 PM
Luke Kuechly. Calling it.

Me likey!

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Brock
03-13-2012, 07:31 PM
this is what pioli means by 'right 53'

cassel and hillis

Yep, puss and pussier.

DJ's left nut
03-13-2012, 07:32 PM
And if Charles isn't effective or re-injures the leg and we have to depend on a head case to carry the team?

No thanx...

Just exactly how many NFL players aren't right on the edge of completely insane?

Prior to last season he was seen as a model player and teammate. Last year he had some issues.

I'm not going to write him off as an individual. The atmosphere got toxic and he checked out; it happens. Again, his OC, the guy that may well have gotten fired because of the temper tantrum, is evidently interested in having him back. He's going to have more insight into his personality than we will.

Who wouldn't have given their right ball to have that guy as a #2 back prior to last season? His outburst gives us an opportunity to acquire him that we wouldn't have otherwise had. Rather than run from it, why not embrace it?

Worst case scenario - we cut his ass.

BossChief
03-13-2012, 07:33 PM
The one year Daboll coached him, he had 1654 yards from scrimmage and 13 tds.

SNR
03-13-2012, 07:33 PM
Just exactly how many NFL players aren't right on the edge of completely insane?

Prior to last season he was seen as a model player and teammate. Last year he had some issues.

I'm not going to write him off as an individual. The atmosphere got toxic and he checked out; it happens. Again, his OC, the guy that may well have gotten fired because of the temper tantrum, is evidently interested in having him back. He's going to have more insight into his personality than we will.

Who wouldn't have given their right ball to have that guy as a #2 back prior to last season? His outburst gives us an opportunity to acquire him that we wouldn't have otherwise had. Rather than run from it, why not embrace it?

Worst case scenario - we cut his ass.If I interpret what you're saying correctly, you're saying:

BRING HIM IN FOR A LOOK?

O.city
03-13-2012, 07:34 PM
DJ, would you sign him or Tolbert?


and if you get one, would you be ok grabbing Lamar Miller in the draft?

the Talking Can
03-13-2012, 07:35 PM
i like how we're recycling trash from failed Cleveland teams and passing it off as 'our future'....

Pioli must be a wizard to trot out Crennel, Daboll, and hillis as bold moves to improve the chiefs...fml

(oh yeah and cassel)

zonachief
03-13-2012, 07:36 PM
DJ, would you sign him or Tolbert?


and if you get one, would you be ok grabbing Lamar Miller in the draft?

I prefer lamichael james

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Rausch
03-13-2012, 07:36 PM
Eh, fuck it.

I guess at this point I should just be happy any time Clark reaches for his wallet...

zonachief
03-13-2012, 07:38 PM
DJ, would you sign him or Tolbert?


and if you get one, would you be ok grabbing Lamar Miller in the draft?

I know I'm not dj but I like tolbert over hillis. Versatility and seems like a team first guy.

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DJ's left nut
03-13-2012, 07:38 PM
DJ, would you sign him or Tolbert?


and if you get one, would you be ok grabbing Lamar Miller in the draft?

Depends on the cost.

All costs being equal, Tolbert (though I think Hillis has more upside).

But if you can get Hillis on a safe, shorter term deal, he's a perfect make-good, play hard, candidate. He's Shaun Smith in your backfield.

If anything, I would worry that if a guy like Tolbert has to settle for a short-term deal in a year he thought he would cash in, you'd get mediocre effort from him while 'pouting' similar to how McClain started the year.

Like I said - I understand the risk and appreciate the concerns. But the alternative way to look at that is to view it as an opportunity to get a very skilled guy that fits our team well who is both motivated and underpriced.

Zigging when everyone else does gets you to .500. If you don't have an elite quarterback in this league, you need to go against the grain here and there.

This is a good opportunity to do just that.

O.city
03-13-2012, 07:39 PM
Pretty good thinking.

BossChief
03-13-2012, 07:40 PM
I have very little doubt that Cassel will be the game one starter due to Pioli...but I have to wonder how long his leash will be if we spend all that cap space on pieces around him and he still doesn't improve.

I truly think the guy only makes it to the halftime of the game prior to the bye week.

Then, StanziMania takes it's first steps.

DJ's left nut
03-13-2012, 07:40 PM
i like how we're recycling trash from failed Cleveland teams and passing it off as 'our future'....

Pioli must be a wizard to trot out Crennel, Daboll, and hillis as bold moves to improve the chiefs...fml

(oh yeah and cassel)

Who the fuck is calling him our future?

I'll pay him when he's cheap and cut him loose when he isn't anymore. I want him for a year or two at most.

I'm not impressed by folks that debate points that only they make.

SPATCH
03-13-2012, 07:41 PM
So Brent Celek is funny...

Brent Celek ‏ @BrentCelek

Vincent Jackson just signed the 5 for 55555555 deal #arbys
Retweeted by Jason La Canfora

Easy 6
03-13-2012, 07:41 PM
Its definitely risky, dude is a flake.

The situation kinda reminds me of Ricky Williams... would we get the painfully introverted Ricky who'd rather get high with Lenny Kravitz in Barbados?

Or, the dedicated & renewed Ricky who put in some great years for the phins?

the Talking Can
03-13-2012, 07:43 PM
Who the **** is calling him our future?

I'll pay him when he's cheap and cut him loose when he isn't anymore. I want him for a year or two at most.

I'm not impressed by folks that debate points that only they make.

i'm not impressed by people who lecture us on the right 53 signing quitters

you can cheer this all you want, he's a fucking quitter

when the going gets tough..he's going to be what kind of influence in our locker room, exactly?

Rausch
03-13-2012, 07:44 PM
when the going gets tough..he's going to be what kind of influence in our locker room, exactly?

Put him in the locker next to Casshole...

DJ's left nut
03-13-2012, 07:45 PM
i'm not impressed by people who lecture us on the right 53 signing quitters

you can cheer this all you want, he's a fucking quitter

when the going gets tough..he's going to be what kind of influence in our locker room, exactly?

"Yeah, I was just making shit up"

-- The Talking Can

zonachief
03-13-2012, 07:46 PM
Put him in the locker next to Casshole...

I wish Thomas Jones' locker was next to cassels
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Chiefnj2
03-13-2012, 07:46 PM
I'm not going to write him off as an individual. The atmosphere got toxic and he checked out;.

The atmosphere got toxic because of him. He wasn't an innocent bystander.

the Talking Can
03-13-2012, 07:46 PM
"Yeah, I was just making shit up"

-- The Talking Can

he's a quitter

you can lie to yourself about it, but no one else will

Strongside
03-13-2012, 07:47 PM
Whoever started this thread missed a big opportunity to title it "Peyton to visit Chiefs."

shit.

DJ's left nut
03-13-2012, 07:59 PM
The atmosphere got toxic because of him. He wasn't an innocent bystander.

I agree.

But is Cleveland not probably the most dysfunctional organization in the league...not in Cincinnati?

Again, I know he's risky. But we're not going to be in as good a shape as a most other teams in this league at the most important position on the field. We have to make some high risk/high reward moves in light of that if we hope to close the gap.

Hillis' track record prior to last year was superlative, he was universally regarded as a very good teammate. If you're going to take a risk, why not take it on a guy that has legit upside and not exactly a long, prolonged history of malfeasance.

If we only take sure things and pay retail for them, we're going to have a harder time getting over the hump with a mediocre or worse QB situation.

Mr_Tomahawk
03-13-2012, 08:03 PM
DO NOT WANT.

BossChief
03-13-2012, 08:09 PM
There are fans that give the benefit of the doubt to every single move made by the team...and there is the other side of the spectrum and that's guys lime TTC.

I'm not even saying there is anything wrong with that, either.

The last time this team won a playoff game was 1994 and the last big time free agency signing was.........well..........hmmmmmmm

Until the management of this team shows a willingness to push this team to the next level, do they really deserve the benefit of the doubt?

After long enough of this franchise, it gets kinda hard to get excited about things you KNOW aren't gonna happen because they NEVER do.

First round quarterbacks and acquiring blue chip players through all methods are two things this team has ALWAYS had "difficulty" doing.

Difficulty = unwillingness to take the necessary steps

O.city
03-13-2012, 08:10 PM
Boss, I haven't been doing a very good job, keeping you positive this offseason.

DJ's left nut
03-13-2012, 08:16 PM
There are fans that give the benefit of the doubt to every single move made by the team...and there is the other side of the spectrum and that's guys lime TTC.

I'm not even saying there is anything wrong with that, either.

The last time this team won a playoff game was 1994 and the last big time free agency signing was.........well..........hmmmmmmm

Until the management of this team shows a willingness to push this team to the next level, do they really deserve the benefit of the doubt?

After long enough of this franchise, it gets kinda hard to get excited about things you KNOW aren't gonna happen because they NEVER do.

First round quarterbacks and acquiring blue chip players through all methods are two things this team has ALWAYS had "difficulty" doing.

Difficulty = unwillingness to take the necessary steps

I despise this organization but I'm willing to view each decision in a vacuum.

On its face, I like this move. If the guy quits again, he won't be able to drive a team bus.

I think we'll get the 2010 Hillis, or at least a reasonable facsimile. And at is what is most likely to be a very short term, very reasonable contract - why not? You can still draft a guy like David Wilson or Lamar Miller as Charles insurance or just a developmental back.

A cheap Hillis on a short term deal simply presents very little actual risk; only perceived risk which is easily excised if planned for.

the Talking Can
03-13-2012, 08:16 PM
There are fans that give the benefit of the doubt to every single move made by the team...and there is the other side of the spectrum and that's guys lime TTC.

I'm not even saying there is anything wrong with that, either.

The last time this team won a playoff game was 1994 and the last big time free agency signing was.........well..........hmmmmmmm

Until the management of this team shows a willingness to push this team to the next level, do they really deserve the benefit of the doubt?

After long enough of this franchise, it gets kinda hard to get excited about things you KNOW aren't gonna happen because they NEVER do.

First round quarterbacks and acquiring blue chip players through all methods are two things this team has ALWAYS had "difficulty" doing.

Difficulty = unwillingness to take the necessary steps

hillis is a quitter, that's not an arguable fact nor a judgement based on my admittedly low opinion of our cheap ass owner and dumb fuck GM

you can sign hillis and clap real loud about it

but you can't say he isn't a quitter, because he is

KCUnited
03-13-2012, 08:19 PM
Romeo hasn't exactly run the tightest locker room, something to consider when contemplating bringing in a guy like Hillis.

Chiefnj2
03-13-2012, 08:20 PM
I agree.

But is Cleveland not probably the most dysfunctional organization in the league...not in Cincinnati?

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Have you looked in a mirror lately? KC might be more dysfunctional.

BigChiefFan
03-13-2012, 08:28 PM
There are fans that give the benefit of the doubt to every single move made by the team...and there is the other side of the spectrum and that's guys lime TTC.

I'm not even saying there is anything wrong with that, either.

The last time this team won a playoff game was 1994 and the last big time free agency signing was.........well..........hmmmmmmm

Until the management of this team shows a willingness to push this team to the next level, do they really deserve the benefit of the doubt?

After long enough of this franchise, it gets kinda hard to get excited about things you KNOW aren't gonna happen because they NEVER do.

First round quarterbacks and acquiring blue chip players through all methods are two things this team has ALWAYS had "difficulty" doing.

Difficulty = unwillingness to take the necessary steps

Good post, man.

DJ's left nut
03-13-2012, 08:30 PM
hillis is a quitter, that's not an arguable fact nor a judgement based on my admittedly low opinion of our cheap ass owner and dumb fuck GM

you can sign hillis and clap real loud about it

but you can't say he isn't a quitter, because he is

Honest to God question - who's likely to be the 53rd guy on this roster?

Some guy like Jackie Battle, right? Somebody that isn't likely to contribute any more than a common street FA or practice squad player. For as much debate as those final few roster spots generate; very little true impact comes from them 90% of the time.

What is the harm in making that 53rd guy Peyton Hillis? Oh sure, he'd be higher up the depth chart than that, but you could treat his roster spot like he's just the 53rd guy.

If he starts jaking it, you get rid of his ass. Nobody in football would blame you, including his teammates (who don't sally that shit).

Honestly - what is the harm here?

I simply do not understand the backlash. He knows he's out of chances. He knows he has to play hard to get paid. And it's not like he was a glory boy through College and to get into the league. The dude busted his ass, put in the hours and fought his way up the depth chart to get to where he was last season.

He's shown plenty in his career to suggest that he has heart. Something simply went very very wrong last year. Why is that seen as who he is? Why does that trump the guy that was a 4-year letterman and thankless grunt blocking back in front of McFadden and Jones at Arkansas, or the guy that turned himself into a legitimate NFL stud after being a 7th round pick?

The dude have every opportunity to say "fuck this, I'm not getting the credit, I'm not getting the glory and I'm not getting a shot - I'm done", but he didn't. He showed a hell of a lot more heart getting to where he is than a ton of guys in this league have.

This guy spent 7 years showing as much fight and heart as anyone on the gridiron - why are we so willing to trash that?

Chiefs=Good
03-13-2012, 08:39 PM
What exactly did Hillis do to make him seem so crazy..?

Mr_Tomahawk
03-13-2012, 08:39 PM
What exactly did Hillis do to make him seem so crazy..?

He got a cold and missed a season.

DJ's left nut
03-13-2012, 08:46 PM
He got a cold and missed a season.

He beat the holy shit out of his body for 7 years for barely over the league minimum, knew his shelf-life in this league was probably garbage and essentially held out without truly holding out.

Would it have been better had he just held out the whole season?

He didn't just quit because things got hard; that's not how it went at all. Call it what it was - a holdout.

If you call it a holdout from a guy that was getting pretty well screwed by a cheap-ass organization, it doesn't seem nearly as bad now does it?

Micjones
03-13-2012, 08:48 PM
I'd take Hillis.
He'd fill a big need on this team.

Brock
03-13-2012, 08:49 PM
He beat the holy shit out of his body for 7 years for barely over the league minimum, knew his shelf-life in this league was probably garbage and essentially held out without truly holding out.

Would it have been better had he just held out the whole season?

He didn't just quit because things got hard; that's not how it went at all. Call it what it was - a holdout.

If you call it a holdout from a guy that was getting pretty well screwed by a cheap-ass organization, it doesn't seem nearly as bad now does it?

I don't think we're talking about the same guy.

Thig Lyfe
03-13-2012, 08:51 PM
Not a big fan of white RBs. Hopefully Romeo will convert him to safety.

Setsuna
03-13-2012, 08:51 PM
Hillis is actually really good, just has a shit attitude.

Don't know if that has improved, but if so he'd be a perfect compliment to JC.

Yep, enjoy those key turnovers. Fucking retard.

the Talking Can
03-13-2012, 08:55 PM
What exactly did Hillis do to make him seem so crazy..?

he injured his fingernail and quit on his team

which apparently is no big deal, everyone does it

Chocolate Hog
03-13-2012, 09:00 PM
Dude fumbles a lot Tolbert would be a better option IMO

SNR
03-13-2012, 09:03 PM
The fucking LAST thing this fan base needs is a white lunch pail asshole... AT FUCKING RB.

Sorry, but I expect my RBs to actually have talent. It's just the way I roll.

Tolbert's the FAR more talented option of the two. Fuck Hillis in the fucking neck.

O.city
03-13-2012, 09:07 PM
I like Tolbert for his versatility.



I stil want to draft one of the RB's in this class.

BossChief
03-13-2012, 09:08 PM
Signing Hillis wouldn't be a mistake.

Signing Hillis to a deal we are stuck with for more than two years and not filling the 3rd running back spot with a quality player would absolutely be a mistake, though.

I would be willing to give Hillis a chance because he represents a low risk-high reward opportunity.

MahiMike
03-13-2012, 09:11 PM
I like 'em both. Hillis has been a victim of the media and will come cheaper. He's the better option between the tackles on short yardage. Tolbert has better hands but so what? We have enough hands on the team. What we need is a guy that can get the 3rd and 1.

Count Zarth
03-13-2012, 09:12 PM
The fucking LAST thing this fan base needs is a white lunch pail asshole... AT FUCKING RB.

Sorry, but I expect my RBs to actually have talent. It's just the way I roll.

Tolbert's the FAR more talented option of the two. Fuck Hillis in the fucking neck.

Hillis looked pretty talented in 2010.

SNR
03-13-2012, 09:16 PM
I like 'em both. Hillis has been a victim of the media and will come cheaper. He's the better option between the tackles on short yardage. Tolbert has better hands but so what? We have enough hands on the team. What we need is a guy that can get the 3rd and 1.
Tolbert's a bowling ball. He can absolutely convert 3rd and 1s as long as we ditch Old Man Casey at center.

If we don't, I doubt William Perry himself could convert that short yardage. Wegs and Lilja together did a lot to harm our short yardage game last year.

xztop12
03-13-2012, 09:18 PM
This guys one of the biggest D bags in the entire league. He reminds me of Sabby a little

Chiefs=Good
03-13-2012, 09:18 PM
Tolbert reminds a bit of Jones-Drew, obviously not as explosive. but same sort of build, deceptive speed. Id love to sign the guy.

Brock
03-13-2012, 09:19 PM
I like 'em both. Hillis has been a victim of the media and will come cheaper. He's the better option between the tackles on short yardage. Tolbert has better hands but so what? We have enough hands on the team. What we need is a guy that can get the 3rd and 1.

A victim of the media, bullshit.

Chiefnj2
03-13-2012, 09:31 PM
He beat the holy shit out of his body for 7 years for barely over the league minimum, knew his shelf-life in this league was probably garbage and essentially held out without truly holding out.

Would it have been better had he just held out the whole season?

He didn't just quit because things got hard; that's not how it went at all. Call it what it was - a holdout.

If you call it a holdout from a guy that was getting pretty well screwed by a cheap-ass organization, it doesn't seem nearly as bad now does it?

What the hell are you talking about? Beat his body for 7 years for league minimum?

He was a backup in Denver for 2 years where he never touched the ball over 70 times a season. He was traded to the Browns in his third year where the Browns gave him a chance and he played well for 1 year. 1 good year and then he holds out.

58-4ever
03-13-2012, 09:36 PM
Tolbert's a bowling ball. He can absolutely convert 3rd and 1s as long as we ditch Old Man Casey at center.

If we don't, I doubt William Perry himself could convert that short yardage. Wegs and Lilja together did a lot to harm our short yardage game last year.

Casey retired. BTW, Whitney Houston died too in case you've been under a rock.

58-4ever
03-13-2012, 09:36 PM
This guys one of the biggest D bags in the entire league. He reminds me of Sabby a little

based on what?

DJ's left nut
03-13-2012, 09:45 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Beat his body for 7 years for league minimum?

He was a backup in Denver for 2 years where he never touched the ball over 70 times a season. He was traded to the Browns in his third year where the Browns gave him a chance and he played well for 1 year. 1 good year and then he holds out.

I mean his 4 years at Arkansas as a fullback/blocking back, plus his 3 years as a minimum salary guy.

He's done yeoman's work for 7 years, took a hell of a lot of hits and has seen many a RB simply fall apart after taking that kind of physical pounding. He wanted to get paid before he hit the wall and I think he ultimately scared himself into getting the hell off the field.

As it turns out, it was a pretty lousy financial decision. But oddly enough, had he simply held out altogether, he'd have probably gotten a nice contract this offseason.

I'm just not willing to call a guy that was a D-1 fullback for 4 years and 7th round cap fodder that turned himself into a 1,000 yard power back a soft bitch.

Chiefnj2
03-13-2012, 09:45 PM
The first two visits to KC in free agency are a TE that missed all of last year with a shoulder injury, and a HB who basically nursed a hammy all year ? The organization falls deeper in the well of crap every day.

SPATCH
03-13-2012, 09:45 PM
I think most of us would agree that Tolbert is the better option. However, Pioli has proven that he loves a bargain and almost never overpays. With a higher demand/higher pricetag for Tolbert and the connection that Daboll has with Hillis it's much more likely that Hillis will be signed.

There were reports earlier that Tolbert wanted to head to NYG... if we're not his top destination we'll have to offer him more money... sadly, I don't see that happening. Pioli will sign Hillis and add an RB in the second or third day of the draft. I can live with it, I guess.

SNR
03-13-2012, 10:01 PM
PH's left nut

Fritz88
03-13-2012, 10:03 PM
The ****ing LAST thing this fan base needs is a white lunch pail asshole... AT ****ING RB.

Sorry, but I expect my RBs to actually have talent. It's just the way I roll.

Tolbert's the FAR more talented option of the two. **** Hillis in the ****ing neck.

This is all I got from your post

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/i-was-fisted-once-wallpaper.jpg

whoman69
03-13-2012, 10:04 PM
This is the plan?

NJChiefsFan
03-13-2012, 11:37 PM
This is the plan?

Plan? What is a puh-laa-een? Is that how you say it?