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kczoo
03-14-2012, 07:07 PM
Mike Tolbert will still visit the Chiefs

I just spoke to Mike Tolbert's agent, Joel Turner, and he said Tolbert will still visit the Chiefs despite Kansas City signing Peyton Hillis to a one-year deal. In fact, Tolbert hadn't even left for his visit to Kansas City when the Hills news broke.
about 1 hour ago | Bill Williamson | NFL Nation Blog

evolve27
03-14-2012, 07:08 PM
Bullshit

Buck
03-14-2012, 07:08 PM
And also we've landed on the moon!

O.city
03-14-2012, 07:08 PM
Come on man.


This was in the MIKE TOLBERT THREAD.

kczoo
03-14-2012, 07:13 PM
from espn.com

Buck
03-14-2012, 07:14 PM
from espn.com

oh ok then

Crush
03-14-2012, 07:33 PM
ROFL

Hydrae
03-14-2012, 07:34 PM
from espn.com

Nice link

58-4ever
03-14-2012, 07:37 PM
why not? replace Battle, McClain and Jones with Tolbert and Hillis. I see that as upgrading depth.

cabletech94
03-14-2012, 07:39 PM
Q?

Shaid
03-14-2012, 07:39 PM
Hillis is a one year 3 mil deal. Why not bring in Tolbert too.

chiefzilla1501
03-14-2012, 07:40 PM
from espn.com

Is that reputable?

ILChief
03-14-2012, 07:41 PM
Were gonna run the wishbone to hide Cassel

Direckshun
03-14-2012, 07:42 PM
Gonna be weird... how are we going to utilize four high-caliber RBs?

Hills, Tolbert, Charles, McCluster

Buck
03-14-2012, 07:43 PM
Gonna be weird... how are we going to utilize four high-caliber RBs?

Hills, Tolbert, Charles, McCluster

I'm asking myself the same question about Mathews, Tolbert, McClain, and Hester...

mr. tegu
03-14-2012, 07:49 PM
I hear Tolbert played QB in grade school.

Direckshun
03-14-2012, 07:51 PM
I'm asking myself the same question about Mathews, Tolbert, McCluster, and Hester...

I assume you mean McClain.

And really, it's not hard. Your offense will just give Hester the short end of the stick.

Good for us, because I always thought Hester was talented.

Buck
03-14-2012, 07:53 PM
I assume you mean McClain.

And really, it's not hard. Your offense will just give Hester the short end of the stick.

Good for us, because I always thought Hester was talented.

You're right....but your 4 including Tolbert still sounds better than my 4 including Tolbert. That's why I really want to resign Tolbert.

Direckshun
03-14-2012, 07:54 PM
You're right....but your 4 including Tolbert still sounds better than my 4 including Tolbert. That's why I really want to resign Tolbert.

I really want us to land him. Give him and Hillis the majority of carries for the first six games of the season while we bring Charles back slowly.

After a while, Hillis can eventually be benched. We signed him for one year, anyway.

zonachief
03-14-2012, 08:02 PM
I really want us to land him. Give him and Hillis the majority of carries for the first six games of the season while we bring Charles back slowly.

After a while, Hillis can eventually be benched. We signed him for one year, anyway.

Charles needs....less carries?

MahiMike
03-14-2012, 08:05 PM
why not? replace Battle, McClain and Jones with Tolbert and Hillis. I see that as upgrading depth.

To quote Magic Johnson...'Debunitely!'.

Bewbies
03-14-2012, 08:06 PM
If we get 2010 Hillis we have a stud, if we get 2011 Hillis we got a T-Post Tom?

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2012, 06:29 PM
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Plenty of ???s on this, too: Tolbert was to leave KC w/o contract from #Chiefs. At least no contract as of now

rtmike
03-15-2012, 06:51 PM
If we get 2010 Hillis we have a stud, if we get 2011 Hillis we got a T-Post Tom?


Oh great, nothing like momentum killing fumbles.

Dave Lane
03-15-2012, 06:53 PM
I would love to add Tolbert. I never want to see Jackie "2 yard" Battle ever get a Chiefs hand off again.

NJChiefsFan
03-15-2012, 06:54 PM
I really want us to land him. Give him and Hillis the majority of carries for the first six games of the season while we bring Charles back slowly.

After a while, Hillis can eventually be benched. We signed him for one year, anyway.

If Daboll gets Hillis to play like 2010, he won't be getting benched, nor should he. Not saying it happens, but he has the ability and talent if he wakes up.

Mr. Laz
03-15-2012, 06:54 PM
Charles needs....less carries?
he's coming back from an injury so bringing him along slowly would make sense.

Count Zarth
03-15-2012, 06:55 PM
Gonna be weird... how are we going to utilize four high-caliber RBs?

Hills, Tolbert, Charles, McCluster

We'll cut McSuckfuck and use our three high caliber RBs

Chief3188
03-15-2012, 07:14 PM
We'll cut McSuck**** and use our three high caliber RBs

Yes Mccluster is terrible... not. Look at his numbers last year. Not bad for a 2nd year player and he still has the ability to be a game changer if used properly.

J Diddy
03-15-2012, 07:17 PM
I really want us to land him. Give him and Hillis the majority of carries for the first six games of the season while we bring Charles back slowly.

After a while, Hillis can eventually be benched. We signed him for one year, anyway.

What do you mean slowly? He only averages like 15 carries a game?

Buck
03-15-2012, 07:18 PM
I'm pretty sure that with the Chiefs current crop of RB, they probably low-balled Tolbert. I am doubting that you guys sign him.

NJChiefsFan
03-15-2012, 07:19 PM
Real QB would also protect Charles and his carries early.

ChiefMojo
03-15-2012, 07:19 PM
My guess is there is still always a possibility for Tolbert but my guess is he is asking for to much or wants a bigger role than what the Chiefs could offer. If we don't sign Tolbert, then I think we will likely take a RB in the draft somewhere to go with Charles, Hillis and McCluster.

Count Zarth
03-15-2012, 07:24 PM
Yes Mccluster is terrible... not. Look at his numbers last year. Not bad for a 2nd year player and he still has the ability to be a game changer if used properly.

Piece of shit we will soon flush.

Buck
03-15-2012, 07:28 PM
Chargers are now turning their attention to Tolbert.

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I'm told Chargers now turning full attention to backup RB situation. Mike Tolbert is Option A, but team has another vet backup on the hook.

Buck
03-15-2012, 07:28 PM
I'm guessing Michael Bush is option B. Hope it's not Battle.

Consistent1
03-15-2012, 07:30 PM
I'm pretty sure that with the Chiefs current crop of RB, they probably low-balled Tolbert. I am doubting that you guys sign him.

They must of had no confidence in signing him for one reason, or another. If I was Tolbert, wouldn't even show up in KC. He'll get money and carries somewhere. I think Hillis is going to be an average to poor signing.

whoman69
03-15-2012, 07:30 PM
Piece of shit we will soon flush.

He's only bad when working with Cassel who throws the checkdown when he's covered for the big one yard gain. 4.5 ypc last year, 46 receptions. Those aren't pos numbers. Get rid of Cassel, problem solved.

Count Zarth
03-15-2012, 07:31 PM
He's only bad when working with Cassel who throws the checkdown when he's covered for the big one yard gain. 4.5 ypc last year, 46 receptions. Those aren't pos numbers. Get rid of Cassel, problem solved.

All of that will mean quite a bit when we are not giving him the ball because he sucks.

BIG K
03-15-2012, 07:33 PM
Were gonna run the wishbone to hide Cassel

If we sign Tolbert, why not just have three running backs on every play and leave #7 on the sideline?:p

O.city
03-15-2012, 07:33 PM
I wouldn't mind grabbing Tolbert, but I think I would rather grab a rb in the draft. Lamar Miller.

Consistent1
03-15-2012, 07:33 PM
I'm guessing Michael Bush is option B. Hope it's not Battle.

Yeah, doubt that one happens either. Draft somebody late, and hope Hillis doesn't go awol to the CIA.

Buck
03-15-2012, 07:36 PM
Yeah, doubt that one happens either. Draft somebody late, and hope Hillis doesn't go awol to the CIA.

Well I'm talking about the Chargers, not the Chiefs.

notorious
03-15-2012, 08:09 PM
Piece of shit we will soon flush.

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03-15-2012, 08:38 PM
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My understanding is talks at critical stage w/ Mike Tolbert. Team wants to know if he's in or out. Could move on to Jackie Battle tonight.

CaliforniaChief
03-15-2012, 08:40 PM
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My understanding is talks at critical stage w/ Mike Tolbert. Team wants to know if he's in or out. Could move on to Jackie Battle tonight.

I'm assuming he's talking about the Chargers?

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2012, 08:40 PM
I'm assuming he's talking about the Chargers?

Yes

Buck
03-15-2012, 08:41 PM
I'm assuming he's talking about the Chargers?

Pretty sure.

Buck
03-15-2012, 08:42 PM
I'm guessing Michael Bush is option B. Hope it's not Battle.

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My understanding is talks at critical stage w/ Mike Tolbert. Team wants to know if he's in or out. Could move on to Jackie Battle tonight.

Well, fuck.

WildTurkey
03-15-2012, 08:44 PM
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My understanding is talks at critical stage w/ Mike Tolbert. Team wants to know if he's in or out. Could move on to Jackie Battle tonight.

The chiefsification of the bolts will continue


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Lzen
03-15-2012, 08:46 PM
CAll of that will mean quite a bit when we are not giv the ing him the ball because he sucks.
McCluster could be a decent weapons with the right o coordinator and QB. Get a grip man. You seem to want to be right about him sucking
So much that you want a Chiefs player to fail, even if means the Chiefs lose.

ChiefMojo
03-15-2012, 08:54 PM
Tolbert may be re-signing with the Chargers! Ugh! :O

Count Zarth
03-15-2012, 08:55 PM
C
McCluster could be a decent weapons with the right o coordinator and QB.

Nah, he still would be a dime a dozen piece of shit who doesn't make players miss.

Molitoth
03-15-2012, 08:59 PM
The chiefsification of the bolts will continue


No doubt, hurry and get to the Rivers for Cassel trade!

O.city
03-15-2012, 10:18 PM
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Told Mike Tolbert's visit went very well. He left w/out a contract, but he's very much in the mix with the Chiefs. They showed him big time.

Sure-Oz
03-15-2012, 10:21 PM
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Told Mike Tolbert's visit went very well. He left w/out a contract, but he's very much in the mix with the Chiefs. They showed him big time.

Sweet

NJChiefsFan
03-15-2012, 10:22 PM
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Told Mike Tolbert's visit went very well. He left w/out a contract, but he's very much in the mix with the Chiefs. They showed him big time.

They held up this picture...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vR089vsDvOU/SotMT_RfcSI/AAAAAAAAATo/55M_0cIKWns/MattCassel1.jpg

and said, "Do you really think we are going to let this thing throw the ball. There will be plenty of carries to go around."

WildTurkey
03-15-2012, 10:23 PM
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Told Mike Tolbert's visit went very well. He left w/out a contract, but he's very much in the mix with the Chiefs. They showed him big time.

Not sure which would be sweeter the actual signing of Tolbert or knowing the Chargers would probably sign Jackie Battle as his replacement


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Hoover
03-15-2012, 10:24 PM
What does "They showed him big time" exactly mean?

okcchief
03-15-2012, 10:24 PM
If we get Winston and Tolbert I'll be pretty excited. I think even dipshit could have some success with this offense.....who the fuck am I kidding?

O.city
03-15-2012, 10:25 PM
I think Big Time is Piolis penis?

okcchief
03-15-2012, 10:25 PM
They held up this picture...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vR089vsDvOU/SotMT_RfcSI/AAAAAAAAATo/55M_0cIKWns/MattCassel1.jpg

and said, "Do you really think we are going to let this thing throw the ball. There will be plenty of carries to go around."

Bahahaha

zonachief
03-15-2012, 10:25 PM
What does "They showed him big time" exactly mean?

He picked up king size snickers and twix wrappers.

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Buck
03-15-2012, 10:26 PM
What does "They showed him big time" exactly mean?

Big Time is Crennel's nickname for his own penis.

Chief Roundup
03-15-2012, 10:30 PM
I would love to add Tolbert. I never want to see Jackie "2 yard" Battle ever get a Chiefs hand off again.

Jackie Battle did a hell of a lot more than Thomas Jones.

MIAdragon
03-15-2012, 10:45 PM
What does "They showed him big time" exactly mean?

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CaliforniaChief
03-15-2012, 10:47 PM
I really want Mike Tolbert to join the Chiefs. He is a really good football player and versatile enough to help in almost any situation.

BigRock
03-15-2012, 10:52 PM
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Pioli was trying to spell out Tolbert's role on the team, but didn't have time to show him Sledgehammer.

Dave Lane
03-15-2012, 10:55 PM
Jackie Battle did a hell of a lot more than Thomas Jones.

Is there a point to this post?

I mean I did too.

BIG K
03-15-2012, 10:56 PM
Jackie Battle did a hell of a lot more than Thomas Jones.

TJ died two years ago....Pretty sure at 42, I could carry the rock better than TJ.......J/K of course.....I like Hillis and Tolbert with JC. If Battle wants to ball with the Chiefs, I'm okay with that too.

Chief3188
03-16-2012, 01:17 PM
Piece of shit we will soon flush.

I think we will have to agree to disagree. I wouldn't mind making a bet on that though, friendly one of course LMAO

Chief3188
03-16-2012, 01:19 PM
All of that will mean quite a bit when we are not giving him the ball because he sucks.

While your arguement is fundamentally sound I would ask if you could provide your reasoning for singling out Mccluster or the reason for the hate on this player when they are plenty of shitbags more worthy of this opinion than Mccluster.

You are wrong about Mccluster in my opinion.

Count Zarth
03-16-2012, 01:22 PM
I hate him because:

1. He sucks.

2. Idiots on this board want to hug him and pet him and squeeze him and love him.

3. We spent a god damn #36 overall on him.

SNR
03-16-2012, 01:57 PM
While your arguement is fundamentally sound I would ask if you could provide your reasoning for singling out Mccluster or the reason for the hate on this player when they are plenty of shitbags more worthy of this opinion than Mccluster.

You are wrong about Mccluster in my opinion.
1. He fumbles. I think the ball is too big for his body, since he drops the fucking thing every time he gets tackled. And it's not even because it gets popped out. He fumbles it when his arm hits the ground, and it forces us to burn challenges.

2. I've seen him break a grand total of TWO fucking plays in two years. The kick return against SD and the run against San Fran, both of them last year. "Wuh oh give him space and watch out!" No. Don't give him space, because he's incapable of busting plays deep.

3. We tailor our playbook to give him the ball, when there are far better players (for the above reasons) we could be giving the ball to. This wastes time, downs, and doesn't force the defense to respect McCluster at all when he's on the field. Which leads to

4. He doesn't fill his main purpose at all- to get defenses to take notice and back off. They don't play less aggressively when he's on the field. They play MORE aggressively. And they have every reason to.

5. He's not even the fastest guy on the team. I'll betcha Jamaal Charles is faster.

6. Waste of a 2nd round pick. Just like Cassel. He's the Cassel of our playmakers on offense.

SNR
03-16-2012, 01:59 PM
You can also breathe on him and he'll go down. He has no lower body strength. At all. If a defender makes contact, McBuster is going down 99% of the time.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-16-2012, 02:14 PM
Mike Tolbert - RB - Chargers The Union-Tribune San Diego reports it "doesn't look good" between the Chargers and free agent Mike Tolbert.
It appears Tolbert rebuffed the Chargers' Thursday ultimatum. If Tolbert is truly drawing interest from "at least" a dozen teams as his agent has claimed, he won't remain on the market for long.

Pestilence
03-16-2012, 02:15 PM
I don't know why he would want to come here.

Hoover
03-16-2012, 02:19 PM
I agree. I would love to have Tolbert, but the guy wants a chance to start and we can't offer him that.

Detoxing
03-16-2012, 02:55 PM
I agree. I would love to have Tolbert, but the guy wants a chance to start and we can't offer him that.

Unless it's as the starting FB.

zonachief
03-16-2012, 02:57 PM
Unless it's as the starting FB.

This. He will get the rock plenty.

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Marcellus
03-16-2012, 02:58 PM
I don't know why he would want to come here.

Dude, Pioli and Clark showed him "big time". How can he not come here now?

Hoover
03-16-2012, 02:59 PM
I'd love it, but I'd think he would want to go play for a Green Bay or something.

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03-16-2012, 03:20 PM
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For those asking about Eric Winston news, I haven't heard any. Very possible they're still meeting. Tolbert left last night late evening.

patteeu
03-16-2012, 03:22 PM
I agree. I would love to have Tolbert, but the guy wants a chance to start and we can't offer him that.

Why not? Thomas Jones is gone.

Buckweath
03-16-2012, 03:28 PM
I won`t be disappointed if we don`t sign Tolbert and I don`t expect him to sign here. We have already signed Peyton Hillis. What`s up with all those Chiefs fans who want to forget about our disastrous QB situation by adding another RB?

patteeu
03-16-2012, 03:31 PM
I won`t be disappointed if we don`t sign Tolbert and I don`t expect him to sign here. We have already signed Peyton Hillis. What`s up with all those Chiefs fans who want to forget about our disastrous QB situation by adding another RB?

We had a disastrous RB situation last year when one key guy got hurt. That same guy is coming off old a major injury this year. We can use an upgrade from Jackie Battle.

BoneKrusher
03-16-2012, 03:32 PM
We have already signed Peyton Hillis. What`s up with all those Chiefs fans who want to forget about our disastrous QB situation by adding another RB?

2012 will feature all running plays since we have know QB.

Hoover
03-16-2012, 03:32 PM
Why not? Thomas Jones is gone.
Like I said, I would love to have him in KC. I prefer him to Hillis, but I just think there has to be team out there that can give him more carries. If he is looking to be a FB, then we need to sign him.

Buckweath
03-16-2012, 03:35 PM
We had a disastrous RB situation last year when one key guy got hurt. That same guy is coming off old a major injury this year. We can use an upgrade from Jackie Battle.

I agree we definitly need another RB but I definitly thought we`d be getting that 3rd RB (not counting McCluster) in the draft in the 3rd round or beyond.

patteeu
03-16-2012, 03:36 PM
Like I said, I would love to have him in KC. I prefer him to Hillis, but I just think there has to be team out there that can give him more carries. If he is looking to be a FB, then we need to sign him.

I don't think he's going to find a team to make him a featured back. He's going to split carries somewhere. Unless Romeo changes philosophy wrt Charles, he could start here as an RB. Hillis can be the FB like he was at Arkansas.

patteeu
03-16-2012, 03:38 PM
I agree we definitly need another RB but I definitly thought we`d be getting that 3rd RB (not counting McCluster) in the draft in the 3rd round or beyond.

That would work for me, but if we can fill a need with a good player in FA, it frees is up in the draft to take BAAs.

patteeu
03-16-2012, 03:40 PM
That would work for me, but if we can fill a need with a good player in FA, it frees is up in the draft to take BAAs.

The fact that San Diego wants him back speaks to his ability to perform.

rico
03-16-2012, 03:40 PM
Is the fact that we are attempting to stock up at RB making anyone else question how Jamaal's recovery has been going?

Detoxing
03-16-2012, 03:42 PM
Is the fact that we are attempting to stock up at RB making anyone else question how Jamaal's recovery has been going?

They're not stocking up at all. They're trying to improve the position. Hillis takes Jones' old spot and Tolbert would replace McClain.

DaWolf
03-16-2012, 03:43 PM
Is the fact that we are attempting to stock up at RB making anyone else question how Jamaal's recovery has been going?

Nope. But based on last year, you can never have too much of something.

Besides, the Chiefs have never struck me as a team that believes Charles can carry the ball 20-25 times a game. So you need some good backs behind him.

That, and we've sucked for three years now, if not more, at picking up short yardage...

royr17
03-16-2012, 03:44 PM
They're not stocking up at all. They're trying to improve the position. Hillis takes Jones' old spot and Tolbert would replace McClain.

I would think that it would be the other way around, Hillis would replace McClain at fullback and Tolbert would replace Jones at HB, Hillis was the blocking back for both Darren McFadden and Felix Jones at Arkansas. He was the fullback in Cleveland until Jerome Harrison got hurt.

Buckweath
03-16-2012, 03:45 PM
That would work for me, but if we can fill a need with a good player in FA, it frees is up in the draft to take BAAs.

Ok and then when comes our turn to pick in the 3rd round and the BAP is a RB, do you pick him when you already have Charles, Hillis (signed for 1 year I know), Tolbert and McCluster?

Detoxing
03-16-2012, 03:45 PM
I would think that it would be the other way around, Hillis would replace McClain at fullback and Tolbert would replace Jones at HB, Hillis was the blocking back for both Darren McFadden and Felix Jones at Arkansas. He was the fullback in Cleveland until Jerome Harrison got hurt.

Whatever works. If they sign Tolbert, they'll have two guys who can do both.

rico
03-16-2012, 03:46 PM
True, true (to the aboves). ACL tears just scare the crap out of me. I'll be a nervous wreck every time Jamaal carries the ball.

I remember a couple years ago, they were handing the ball to Charles 10-12 times per game and Jones 15-20. It was stupid.

Detoxing
03-16-2012, 03:46 PM
Ok and then when comes our turn to pick in the 3rd round and the BAP is a RB, do you pick him when you already have Charles, Hillis (signed for 1 year I know), Tolbert and McCluster?

No, you'd go BPA at a position of need. RB obviously wouldn't be a position of need.

royr17
03-16-2012, 03:47 PM
Whatever works. If they sign Tolbert, they'll have two guys who can do both.

Can you imagine both Tolbert and Hillis in the backfield on goal line situations, damn !!! Thats a double blowing ball threat right threat !!!:drool:

Micjones
03-16-2012, 03:48 PM
No, you'd go BPA at a position of need.

Best way to go unless your team is really talented and deep.

Okie_Apparition
03-16-2012, 03:49 PM
While Tolbert is blocking for Charles
Hillis will block for McCluster
Cassel will shift to TE

Dave Lane
03-16-2012, 04:02 PM
While Tolbert is blocking for Charles
Hillis will block for McCluster
Cassel will shift to TE

I'm good with that

patteeu
03-16-2012, 04:09 PM
Ok and then when comes our turn to pick in the 3rd round and the BAP is a RB, do you pick him when you already have Charles, Hillis (signed for 1 year I know), Tolbert and McCluster?

If he's clearly the BAP, sure. At that point though, you probably have two or three close alternatives.

whoman69
03-16-2012, 04:11 PM
Maybe were going to run the wing T since we don't have a QB.

Mi_chief_fan
03-16-2012, 04:14 PM
Maybe were going to run the wing T since we don't have a QB.

Or more appropriate, a single wing,which is kinda fun to watch. No QB, no problem.

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03-16-2012, 06:13 PM
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Mike Tolbert goes on another visit tomorrow. Looks like he's out in San Diego.

Simplicity
03-16-2012, 06:19 PM
If we get Winston and McNeill then how do people feel about getting T-Rich in the first round?

BIG K
03-16-2012, 07:30 PM
If we get Winston and McNeill then how do people feel about getting T-Rich in the first round?

Not a fan of McNeill being a starter if that is what you are implying. Other than that, as long as the Chiefs are not building a ground domintation game to help #7, I am okay with it. If it is to help out a new qb, then I am good...

Buck
03-17-2012, 10:09 AM
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/mar/16/chargers-tolbert-expected-separate/

Boom.

Boom.

Boom.

One after another, the Chargers made a flurry of moves Friday night in free agency, switching backup quarterbacks and adding a veteran strong safety with starting experience.

Before the hysteria, they saw running back Mike Tolbert slowly walk out the door.

How it all shook out:

The deal that couldn't get done

Days of deliberation passed between the Chargers and Tolbert.

Nothing changed.

His camp wanted more money. The Chargers stood firm.

Now, the two sides seem certain to separate.

Tolbert will visit another team this morning, his agent Joel Turner said, after negotiations with the Chargers hit a standstill Friday. They reached a critical stage Thursday night, and Turner would not address where they faltered.

It is known, however, the two sides did not agree on Turner's valuation.

Tolbert's visit is with the Steelers or Panthers, league sources said, but Turner would not confirm.

All along, the Chargers braced for the possible break-up, keeping contact with Chiefs running back Jackie Battle. "Four or five" other running backs, a team source said, are also in the mix.

Still, they hoped to return Tolbert to his usual role, backing up Ryan Mathews and running down kicks, the latter his specialty since entering the league in 2008 as an undrafted free agent

The 5-foot-9, 243-pounder saw his offensive role expand the past two seasons with a combined 303 carries, 1,225 yards and 19 touchdowns. His skills in pass protection led to a featured role in the team's two-minute and third-down packages, and he was deployed regularly near the goal line.

Last year, he caught 54 passes for 433 yards and two scores. His teammates voted him their special teams player of the year.

Tolbert paced the team with 10 solo tackles on special teams, and his 12 total tackles shared for the team lead with safety Darrell Stuckey and linebacker Andrew Gachkar.

Ace Gunner
03-17-2012, 10:30 AM
jackie "cement shoes" battle. good luck with that.

SNR
03-17-2012, 11:37 AM
Darrell Stuckey? Is their new backup QB Todd Reesing?

ForeverChiefs58
03-17-2012, 12:21 PM
Mike Tolbert to Steelers is “not happening”
Posted by Evan Silva on March 17, 2012, 1:23 PM EDT

Kevin Acee of the Union-Tribune San Diego passed along word late Friday that free agent running back Mike Tolbert was drawing interest from the Pittsburgh Steelers. The news from Acee came directly on the heels of his report that Tolbert and the Chargers were “ready to separate” after an ultimately fruitless round of intense contract negotiations.

Acee may have been misled regarding the Steelers’ alleged interest.

Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette wrote on Twitter Saturday afternoon that Tolbert has “no visit” lined up with the Steelers, and the deal is “not happening.” Tolbert might have made sense for the Steelers due to Rashard Mendenhall’s late-season ACL tear, but they apparently have no interest.

Acee also mentioned the Panthers as a potential destination for Tolbert, although Carolina has two effective running backs under contract (DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart), and a capable third-stringer in Mike Goodson.

It’s easy to connect dots between the Panthers and Tolbert because Carolina’s coaching staff has ties to Tolbert in former Chargers defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, now Panthers head coach, and former Chargers tight ends coach Rob Chudzinski, who now coordinates Carolina’s offense. But due to their depth at the position, we suspect the Panthers aren’t all that interested in Tolbert, either.

Tolbert is a valuable role player and will be playing football during the upcoming season, but his market isn’t very hot right now.

whoman69
03-17-2012, 12:55 PM
I think a lot of these rumors are from agents trying to drive up the price. The Steelers never had an interest in Tolbert. His agent wanted the Chiefs to essentially bid against themselves.

Bowser
03-17-2012, 12:56 PM
I would GLADLY trade Jackie Battle for Mike Tolbert.

SNR
03-17-2012, 01:31 PM
Come to Kansas City, Mikey. We'll get you a RT worth a shit!

CaliforniaChief
03-17-2012, 01:33 PM
This will be the last time I say this. Mike Tolbert would be a great addition to the team. He plays special teams, FB, HB, has good hands, is a great character guy, and is good in the red zone.

ROYC75
03-17-2012, 01:39 PM
I would GLADLY trade Jackie Battle for Mike Tolbert.

In a heartbeat

Buck
03-17-2012, 01:41 PM
I think Tolbert and agent think they're going to get more money and touches than anyone is going to realistically offer him. I feel like its between KC and SD. I don't think there are actually any mystery teams. Trying to drive up the price, but both KC and SD are cheap, so he's not gonna get a lot.

Mr. Laz
03-17-2012, 01:42 PM
Tolbert must have delusions of grandeur about how much he is worth.

Hoover
03-17-2012, 01:44 PM
I think he will pick KC over SD. Just a gut feeling.

Mr. Laz
03-17-2012, 01:49 PM
I think he will pick KC over SD. Just a gut feeling.

I like Tolbert and i bet he would end up with quite a few carries in KC.

Buck
03-17-2012, 01:53 PM
He'd get more carries in SD.

You already have two halfbacks.

We have one.

Hoover
03-17-2012, 01:55 PM
Agree. I think with Romeo calling the shots were are going to run a lot out of a number of formations. Our new OC likes to give carries to multiple backs.

carlos3652
03-17-2012, 01:56 PM
He'd get more carries in SD.

You already have two halfbacks.

We have one.

You have Rivers, we have Check down King.. So hell be rushing it at least 10+ times a game + 5+ receptions per game...

Buck
03-17-2012, 01:58 PM
Rivers checks down plenty too. He's just more accurate on deep passes, that's why it seems like he throws them more.

Hoover
03-17-2012, 01:58 PM
Cassel would target him 7-9 times a game.

carlos3652
03-17-2012, 02:00 PM
Rivers checks down plenty too. He's just more accurate on deep passes, that's why it seems like he throws them more.

No, you dont understand, Cassel's deep passes and check downs are normally to RB's

thurman merman
03-17-2012, 02:00 PM
I would GLADLY trade Jackie Battle for Mike Tolbert.

I would also GLADLY trade Matt Cassel for Aaron Rodgers.

Buck
03-17-2012, 02:02 PM
Cassel would target him 7-9 times a game.

You're making it seem like we didn't use him.

Check his numbers. Only 5 games with less than 3 receptions, 7 games with at least 4, and 6 games with at least 5.

That's not including his rushing attempts.

121 Rushing Attempts, 54 Receptions on 79 targets (5 per game)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/11658/mike-tolbert

Crush
03-17-2012, 02:04 PM
You're making it seem like we didn't use him.

Check his numbers. Only 5 games with less than 3 receptions, 7 games with at least 4, and 6 games with at least 5.

That's not including his rushing attempts.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/11658/mike-tolbert

Buck, you do not understand. If he signs with KC, he will be Cassel's default target.

Okie_Apparition
03-17-2012, 02:05 PM
49ers | Express interest in Mike Tolbert
Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:27:03 -0700

The San Francisco 49ers have shown interest in free-agent RB Mike Tolbert (Chargers).

0 Comments | Source: The San Diego Union-Tribune - Kevin Acee | Share:


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Buck
03-17-2012, 02:06 PM
Buck, you do not understand. If he signs with KC, he will be Cassel's default target.

Yeah, but while you're making jokes, I'm talking in reality.

He got 79 targets last year from Rivers.

You really think he's going to get many more from Cassel?

He won't be in the game for long enough to average 5 a game.

Crush
03-17-2012, 02:08 PM
Yeah, but while you're making jokes, I'm talking in reality.

He got 79 targets last year from Rivers.

You really think he's going to get many more from Cassel?

He won't be in the game for long enough to average 5 a game.

I'm pretty sure he would.

Urc Burry
03-17-2012, 02:11 PM
Tolbert would be used like Mcclain last year. Which isn't going to be as much as he wants

BoneKrusher
03-17-2012, 02:20 PM
I would also GLADLY trade Matt Cassel for Aaron Rodgers.

please Scott, can we?

Dave Lane
03-17-2012, 02:26 PM
jackie "cement shoes" battle. good luck with that.

No no no it's Jackie "2 yards" Battle

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-17-2012, 03:28 PM
Mike Tolbert - RB - Chargers According to the Charlotte Observer, free agent Mike Tolbert is looking for a starting job.
He won't fine one, especially in Carolina. Tolbert's best-case scenario is finding a job similar to the short-yardage, passing-down gig he had in San Diego.

Count Zarth
03-17-2012, 03:31 PM
All these phatbacks want big money. LMAO

Last year it was McClain, now Tolbert.

Bowser
03-17-2012, 03:32 PM
All these phatbacks want big money. LMAO

Last year it was McClain, now Tolbert.

He has images of Michael Turner's contract dancing in his head.

Okie_Apparition
03-17-2012, 03:41 PM
Learn to use your twitter Tolbert
it worked for McClam last season

Shogun
03-17-2012, 03:46 PM
I would also GLADLY trade Matt Cassel for Aaron Rodgers.

No way. That would be a huge ripoff for us, Rodgers totally sucks.

Mr. Laz
03-17-2012, 04:02 PM
we were 5th in the league in rushing attempts even though our offense ranked 31st in total points. San Diego was 15th in rushing attempts and 5th in total points.

Much bigger emphasis on rushing in KC

we lost Battle,Jones,McClain ... adding Hillis and getting Charles back

still have a place for more players/carries, especially for a fullback

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03-19-2012, 09:25 AM
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Pestilence
03-19-2012, 09:28 AM
The Panthers will be trading Jonathan Stewart sometime in the next year.

okcchief
03-19-2012, 09:41 AM
Damn I wanted Tolbert. The Richardson pick makes sense now IF he falls. We need a stable of RBs with our QB.

suds79
03-19-2012, 09:44 AM
Damn I wanted Tolbert. The Richardson pick makes sense now IF he falls. We need a stable of RBs with our QB.

I think Richardson makes less sense now with the addition of Hillis.

We'll have Jamaal back. Hillis will be the power. And Dexter will get a few touches. I'd rather use that 1st on a different position.

If you want a stable of backs, you can still have a quality back in the mid rounds.

DJ's left nut
03-19-2012, 09:50 AM
The Panthers will be trading Jonathan Stewart sometime in the next year.

I think he's a FA after next season so the Panthers won't get a ton for him.

The D'Angelo Williams contract will never make sense to me. Stewart is the bettter, more versatile, younger of the 2 backs but they paid Williams so much that they can't afford to keep Stewart.

Pestilence
03-19-2012, 10:03 AM
I think he's a FA after next season so the Panthers won't get a ton for him.

The D'Angelo Williams contract will never make sense to me. Stewart is the bettter, more versatile, younger of the 2 backs but they paid Williams so much that they can't afford to keep Stewart.

They'll probably get around a 3rd for him....at most.

And I agree.....I would've kept Stewart over Williams every day of the week.

xztop12
03-19-2012, 10:22 AM
I would also GLADLY trade Matt Cassel for Aaron Rodgers.

so stanzi can sit on the bench even longer? no thanks

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-19-2012, 09:14 PM
Mike Tolbert - RB - Panthers The four-year, $8.4 million contract signed by Panthers FB Mike Tolbert was lower than the Chargers' offer.

BossChief
03-19-2012, 09:20 PM
He signed for 2 million/yr?

That's a little surprising.

Mr. Laz
03-19-2012, 09:45 PM
Chargers offered Tolbert more than Panthers

Posted by Mike Florio on March 19, 2012, 11:14 PM EDT

The San Diego Chargers wanted to keep running back Mike Tolbert. The Panthers got him.

But it’s not because the Panthers offered more than the only team with which Tolbert had ever played. According to Kevin Acee of U-T San Diego, the Panthers actually offered less.

Acee writes via Twitter than Tolbert will make $8.4 million on a four-year deal, which could max out at $10 million. Per Acee, the Chargers averaged $1 million more.

Per year.

Acee says Tolbert wanted to get back to the South; he’s from Douglasville, Georgia, and he played college football at Coastal Carolina.

His role with the Panthers currently isn’t clear. The official release from the Panthers lists Tolbert as a fullback, which tends to bolster the notion that DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart will remain the top running backs, and that Stewart won’t be traded.

“Mike is a very versatile player who can do a lot of different things for us,” G.M. Marty Hurney said in a team-issued release. “He plays fullback, catches the ball well out of the backfield, plays running back, and is an outstanding special teams player. It was a good fit and gives us a chance to add another weapon on offense. We are excited about bringing him back to the Carolinas.”

Tolbert must be excited, too. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have given up $4 million over four years to play there.