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ChiefsandO'sfan
03-16-2012, 07:17 PM
Broncos: $40.0 million.

Bengals: $38.9 million.

Seahawks: $28.6 million.

Titans: $26.2 million.

Jaguars: $24.8 million.

49ers: $23.5 million.

Eagles: $22.3 million.

Bills: $22.2 million.

Browns: $21.6 million.

Chiefs: $21.4 million.

Buccaneers: $17.9 million.

Vikings: $18.8 million.

Rams: $14.6 million.

Chargers: $14.5 million.

Dolphins: $14.3 million.

Colts: $14.3 million.

Patriots: $13.6 million.

Bears: $12.8 million.

Jets: $12.7 million.

Redskins: $11.3 million.

Texans: $8.7 million.

Packers: $7.2 million.

Falcons: $6.0 million.

Cowboys: $5.5 million.

Raiders: $5.0 million.

Ravens: $4.7 million.

Panthers: $3.1 million.

Saints: $3.0 million.

Giants: $2.3 million.

Cardinals: $448,000.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/16/cap-space-as-of-march-15/

cabletech94
03-16-2012, 07:18 PM
effing winning.

sign 'em and 69 'em.

print 'em.

O.city
03-16-2012, 07:18 PM
How the hell do the Eagles have that much money.

Mr. Kotter
03-16-2012, 07:20 PM
You know what the coolest thing would be???

If Peyton signs with ANYONE not-Broncos....AND that leaves the Donks unable to sign anyone who might be the least bit able to "help" them???

Marcellus
03-16-2012, 07:20 PM
HTF was Arizona going to sign Manning?

Marcellus
03-16-2012, 07:23 PM
How the hell do the Eagles have that much money.

Same reason fans think KC is cheap.

Just because you spend $ doesn't mean you will hammer the cap. Pay $ up front on certain contracts and it doesn't kill the cap. It is no different than the "restructuring" of contracts that goes on all the time. The difference is if your smart you don't have to do that.

hometeam
03-16-2012, 07:37 PM
How the hell do the Eagles have that much money.

exactly what i said

ChiefFripp
03-16-2012, 07:39 PM
Even if The Chiefs don't address the QB position, I think The Chiefs are going to suprise a whole lot of people next season.

Hoover
03-16-2012, 07:48 PM
Even if The Chiefs don't address the QB position, I think The Chiefs are going to suprise a whole lot of people next season.
"See Clark, it's amazing what a backup running back and tight end will do. I love it here in KC!" Scott Piolo March 15, 8:40 p.m.

Just Passin' By
03-16-2012, 07:50 PM
"See Clark, it's amazing what a backup running back and tight end will do. I love it here in KC!" Scott Piolo March 15, 8:40 p.m.

The Chiefs lost a top tier RB, their best receiving option outside of Bowe, and the top young safety in the NFL at the very beginning of last season. Why would it be strange for any fan base to think that the return of those players could put the team in much better position?

whoman69
03-16-2012, 07:51 PM
Even if The Chiefs don't address the QB position, I think The Chiefs are going to suprise a whole lot of people next season.

Yeah, maybe they can go 7-9 again and win the division.

Rain Man
03-16-2012, 07:54 PM
The broncos are cheating again.

Extra Point
03-16-2012, 08:05 PM
Can't wait for Pioli to meet with Cassel and Cassel's agent, a la Lundberg:

"Ah, um, Matt, you know that, um, um, salary thing? We, ah, um, need to take make some, mmm, adjustment there."

Mr. Laz
03-16-2012, 08:09 PM
21 million free and clear, another 20 million available through some simple restructures anytime the Chiefs choose.

O.city
03-16-2012, 08:14 PM
Very good call Laz.


We need to lock up Winston and make some other solid moves, then have a good draft.

Mr. Laz
03-16-2012, 08:18 PM
Very good call Laz.


We need to lock up Winston and make some other solid moves, then have a good draft.
just take this year's base salary of a few players and turn it into a bonus that can be prorated.

The player likes it because he gets his yearly salary upfront and all at once. The team likes it because the cap number is divided by the length of the contract.

If the player is a veteran his year's salary is guaranteed on day 1 of the season anyway so it's not like it's much of a risk.


You can do a ton of that stuff and push the salary numbers all over.

whoman69
03-17-2012, 01:03 PM
I have a feeling these numbers don't include the $20 million we rolled over from last year.

Mr. Laz
03-17-2012, 01:44 PM
I have a feeling these numbers don't include the $20 million we rolled over from last year.

dunno ... it sure as hell doesn't include all the contracts we front loaded, because of having so much cap room the last 3 years, that we could now restructure.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-17-2012, 01:46 PM
I have a feeling these numbers don't include the $20 million we rolled over from last year.

Your feeling is wrong.

O.city
03-30-2012, 05:37 PM
Newest released today, we are 17 million over still.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-30-2012, 05:40 PM
Team-by-team cap room, as of March 30

Posted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2012, 7:33 PM EDT


[Editor's note: The salary-cap space for each team as of March 30 is listed below. The cap room is based on the top 51 cap numbers of the players currently under contract.]

Bengals: $20.5 million.

Jaguars: $20.2 million.

Seahawks: $18.9 million.

Browns: $18.5 million.

Titans: $18.4 million.

Buccaneers: $18.3 million.

Chiefs: $17.0 million.

Eagles: $16.2 million.

Vikings: $14.5 million.

Broncos: $13.8 million.

Colts: $10.6 million.

Patriots: $9.9 million.

Bills: $9.7 million.

Jets: $7.6 million.

Redskins: $7.6 million.

Dolphins: $6.4 million.

Steelers: $5.8 million.

Chargers: $5.6 million.

49ers: $5.3 million.

Lions: $4.5 million.

Rams: $4.3 million.

Texans: $3.5 million.

Bears: $3.5 million.

Packers: $3.4 million.

Giants: $3.4 million.

Raiders: $3.4 million

Cardinals: $2.1 million.

Cowboys: $2.1 million.

Falcons: $1.8 million.

Ravens: $1.7 million.

Saints: $1.4 million.

Panthers: $620,000.

O.city
03-30-2012, 05:42 PM
I figure we still have about 7 or 8 million we plan on spending.

Okie_Apparition
03-30-2012, 05:45 PM
26.2 million in 2 weeks :whackit: /Knowmo

Marcellus
03-30-2012, 05:46 PM
The Eagles are obviously cheap bastards being right below the Chiefs.

O.city
03-30-2012, 05:47 PM
What free agents are still out there that we could bring in for some really good depth?

Micjones
03-30-2012, 05:49 PM
I figure we still have about 7 or 8 million we plan on spending.

$4m, Rookie Pool
$8m, 2nd Wave Free Agency
$5m, Reserve (In-Season Transactions)

Sounds about right.

If Pioli isn't planning any major acquisitions until around camp time he should try to get that deal done with Bowe.

Micjones
03-30-2012, 05:52 PM
What free agents are still out there that we could bring in for some really good depth?

Aubrayo Franklin
Melvin Bullitt

stonedstooge
03-30-2012, 05:53 PM
The Eagles are obviously cheap bastards being right below the Chiefs.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/​18/with-no-salary...

Pestilence
03-30-2012, 05:54 PM
Has Bowe signed his tender yet? Did I miss that?

Mr. Laz
03-30-2012, 05:57 PM
Has Bowe signed his tender yet? Did I miss that?

don't think it matters, the 9 million for Bowe is unofficially accounted for according to the cap or some kind of goofy crap. I asked about it awhile back.

BossChief
03-30-2012, 06:03 PM
How are the bottom 13 teams gonna sign their draft picks?

Mr. Laz
03-30-2012, 06:14 PM
How are the bottom 13 teams gonna sign their draft picks?
I thought the rookie pool was already included in those cap numbers. The NFL makes sure you can't spend it.

jspchief
03-30-2012, 06:14 PM
How are the bottom 13 teams gonna sign their draft picks?

I'm sure the Raiders will manage. LMFAO

HemiEd
03-30-2012, 06:21 PM
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/​18/with-no-salary...

I'm sure the Raiders will manage. LMFAO

Must be part of their plan, not to have any picks that will cost much.

BossChief
03-30-2012, 07:22 PM
I thought the rookie pool was already included in those cap numbers. The NFL makes sure you can't spend it.

If this is true, they better get Bowe and Albert extended with that cash.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-30-2012, 07:35 PM
If they aren't going to use that 21mil then give it to me.

BryanBusby
03-30-2012, 07:38 PM
I thought the rookie pool was already included in those cap numbers. The NFL makes sure you can't spend it.

The rookie pool figures aren't determined till after the draft, so no.

Mr. Laz
03-30-2012, 07:38 PM
If this is true, they better get Bowe and Albert extended with that cash.

I'm not sure about Albert but imo the Chiefs would of already signed both Carr and Bowe if the players were open to it.

Carr wanted to go to his childhood team and Bowe thinks his Larry Fitzgerald.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-30-2012, 08:26 PM
Kansas City Chiefs
Current contracts: 50
Previous year carryover: $24,014,337.00
Adjustments: $1,869,100.00
Adjusted cap: $146,483,437.00
Team cap: $129,439,528.00
Cap room: $17,043,909.00
Team cash: $103,829,673.00


http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/30/salary-cap-situation-for-each-team/

BossChief
03-30-2012, 08:48 PM
Something is gonna happen during the year as far as a big signing.

We have committed to spending the cash cap and that still has 16 million worth of room to it.

I know the "cap floor" isnt in place until next year, but the teams are still required to spend a high percentage of the cap amount in cash this year, arent they?

BryanBusby
03-30-2012, 09:40 PM
Something is gonna happen during the year as far as a big signing.

We have committed to spending the cash cap and that still has 16 million worth of room to it.

I know the "cap floor" isnt in place until next year, but the teams are still required to spend a high percentage of the cap amount in cash this year, arent they?

They said they will use it, but the didn't specify they would be using it up this year. It wouldn't be a bad idea to roll some space over to 2013.

Mr. Laz
03-30-2012, 10:16 PM
Clark doesn't spend. He trusts Pioli to draft. After this CBA, Clark only will spend the minimu, he won't go all out til he has paid for the renovations at Arrowheadand see a push from his parking and conessions.
He has already made back every cent of what they paid to help renovate Arrowhead stadium. The whole renovation was like 200 million and the taxpayers paid 150 million of it. The Chiefs saved about 100 million because of no salary cap floor during the lockout.

Clark made out like bandits because of the CBA stuff.

O.city
03-30-2012, 10:18 PM
The Chiefs are spending money. That needs to be put to bed that Clark is cheap.

KCChiefsFan88
03-30-2012, 10:54 PM
The Chiefs are spending money. That needs to be put to bed that Clark is cheap.

Not nearly enough money.

They let Carr walk for a cheaper and less talented alternative.

They let Orton walk for a cheaper and less talented alternative.

Winston is the only legit free agent signing they've had. Boss and Hillis are the typical Clark Hunt free agent signings... injury prone players who were signed cheaply.

It should be humiliating for Clark watching how aggressive Denver is being trying to win a Super Bowl, while the Chiefs try to sell everyone (with a straight face) on the idea that Cassel/Brady Quinn equates to "confident stability" at QB.

That is almost as funny as Fat Scott losing enough weight to finally see his dick.

NJChiefsFan
03-30-2012, 11:03 PM
They let Orton walk for a cheaper and less talented alternative.


I think that was more about protecting Cassel then the price itself.

BossChief
03-30-2012, 11:04 PM
He has already made back every cent of what they paid to help renovate Arrowhead stadium. The whole renovation was like 200 million and the taxpayers paid 150 million of it. The Chiefs saved about 100 million because of no salary cap floor during the lockout.

Clark made out like bandits because of the CBA stuff.

Thats not true.

Clark Hunt spent 150 million of his own money on the renovation.

BossChief
03-30-2012, 11:08 PM
It should be humiliating for Clark watching how aggressive Denver is being trying to win a Super Bowl, while the Chiefs try to sell everyone (with a straight face) on the idea that Cassel/Brady Quinn equates to "confident stability" at QB.

Besides signing Manning (who has a throwing arm that looks like a 65 year old mans and reportedly doesnt have the same strength in his throws...tell me again what moves Denver has made that would be worthy of being labeled "aggressive"

I wouldnt be surprised at all to see us win more games than them next year and the following year.

BigChiefFan
03-30-2012, 11:21 PM
The Hunts ended up paying $75 million out of $575 million spent for both stadiums.

rtmike
03-31-2012, 12:11 AM
If any more free agents' are signed we lose the conditional 3rd for Carr correct?

BossChief
03-31-2012, 01:08 AM
The Hunts ended up paying $75 million out of $575 million spent for both stadiums.Here is a link showing their initial investment of 125 million into the renovations

http://prod.static.vikings.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/stadium/DES-recent-nfl-stadiums.pdf

This was after the additional 25 million that was paid by the Hunts that brings the total to 150 million.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/30/football-valuations-10_Kansas-City-Chiefs_309072.html

towards the bottom in "the skinny" it lists the total at 375 million and the tax payers paid for 225 million of it.

The Hunts paid 150 million towards the stadium renovations which is in line with the other stadium renovations of similarly sized cities listed in the first link I provided.

BossChief
03-31-2012, 01:09 AM
If any more free agents' are signed we lose the conditional 3rd for Carr correct?

Yes, unless the player we sign was cut.