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rico
03-17-2012, 04:37 PM
Alright Planeteers, I've been arguing on message boards with people about this off and on for a couple years now and I want to get CP's input on it. The question is this: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Mike Tyson in his prime? Let's hear it!

Great Expectations
03-17-2012, 04:38 PM
Bruce Lee

mdchiefsfan
03-17-2012, 04:40 PM
There are no rules to fighting in Bruce Lee's world. No clinching, no ref, and no break in between rounds (Hell, no rounds period). Bruce Lee FTW!!

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-17-2012, 04:41 PM
Chuck Norris

Donger
03-17-2012, 04:41 PM
Tyson. Because Lee's dead.

Braincase
03-17-2012, 04:43 PM
Absolutely no doubt, Bruce Lee FTMFW.

rico
03-17-2012, 04:43 PM
There are no rules to fighting in Bruce Lee's world. No clinching, no ref, and no break in between rounds (Hell, no rounds period). Bruce Lee FTW!!

I don't really think Tyson cared much for the rules. If he could have broken every one of them and gotten away with every one of them, he would have broken them....just as he would break every bone in Bruce Lee's body if those two were to fight.

Hydrae
03-17-2012, 04:45 PM
9 times out of 10, Bruce Lee.

The tenth time, Tyson catches him and obliterates him.

KChiefer
03-17-2012, 04:54 PM
I voted Lee. Come on ITS BRUCE LEE!!!

Although on 2nd thought, Tyson would have 50lbs on Lee. Also, most Pro-Boxers would dominate UFC martial artists as long as the fight stays upright, and I doubt Lee would do well on the ground with Tyson anyhow.

Bwana
03-17-2012, 04:57 PM
BRUCE LEE

Old Dog
03-17-2012, 04:58 PM
Winston

rico
03-17-2012, 04:59 PM
How often do you see people in UFC and PFC winning championships with their expertise being Jeet Kune Do? Never. Generally, successful MMA guys are skilled in wrestling and/or Jiu Jitsu. I have heard somewhere (however, I admittedly can't find a source to save my life) that along with being one of the most viscious boxers of all time, he was also a skilled grappler/wrestler.

Not to mention the WEIGHT ADVANTAGE.

A common argument that I hear is that Tyson wouldn't be able to catch Bruce Lee if they were to fight. Now, Tyson has never struck me or anyone as the brightest peanut in the turd, but if he were in a fight with Bruce Lee, I doubt he would spend the majority of his time chasing him around. He would eventually wait for him and if Bruce Lee were within his grasps, chances are he could catch him... he was incredibly fast for his size. If (WHEN) Tyson catches Bruce Lee, it's over.

Bruce Lee was a human, hollywood star who happened to be a very, very skilled martial artist.

Bowser
03-17-2012, 05:01 PM
Bruce Lee, and it's not even close.

Shogun
03-17-2012, 05:02 PM
eric winston

rico
03-17-2012, 05:02 PM
Tyson over Lee is something I would put a million dollars on if I had it.

rico
03-17-2012, 05:03 PM
eric winston

Yeah, he could probably beat Lee's (_l_) too.

mnchiefsguy
03-17-2012, 05:03 PM
Gotta go with Lee.

Bowser
03-17-2012, 05:04 PM
Tyson over Lee is something I would put a million dollars on if I had it.

They would love you in Vegas. Tyson could never catch Lee, and Lee would block every haymaker Tyson threw at him.

Tyson would murder probably 97% of the population, but Lee is in the 3%.

JOhn
03-17-2012, 05:06 PM
Bruce Lee was a human, hollywood star who happened to be a very, very skilled martial artist.

:LOL:
No he was an EXPERT in martial arts, who happened to also be a film star.

Shogun
03-17-2012, 05:08 PM
Serious Note. Tyson would obliterate him.

Shogun
03-17-2012, 05:08 PM
They would love you in Vegas. Tyson could never catch Lee, and Lee would block every haymaker Tyson threw at him.

Tyson would murder probably 97% of the population, but Lee is in the 3%.

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rico
03-17-2012, 05:26 PM
:LOL:
No he was an EXPERT in martial arts, who happened to also be a film star.

Mike Tyson is a trained professional fighter.

Bruce Lee was a master of a physical art form and he had the charm and charisma to turn that into an acting career. Even in Bruce Lee's time, there were probably thousands of martial artists who would've kicked his ass in HIS OWN FORM OF MARTIAL ARTS, but they weren't talented enough to turn that skill into an acting/money making enterprise. Tyson has fought in over 50 competitive professional fights. Bruce Lee has fought in how many competitive professional fights? And there were what, a couple rumored "street fights/confrontations?" :shrug:

Tyson would kick the $hit out of Bruce Lee, and he wouldn't even need to use his legendary head movement and counter punching. Tyson would take him down and pound the living pulp out of him. It would look like, well, a giant African American beating the crap out of a little Chinaman.

rico
03-17-2012, 05:28 PM
They would love you in Vegas. Tyson could never catch Lee, and Lee would block every haymaker Tyson threw at him.

Tyson would murder probably 97% of the population, but Lee is in the 3%.

97%??????? You mean 99.999999999% of the population?????? Heck, I am confident that I could beat the crap out of 97% of the population.... The fraction of our population who can beat the crap out of Mike Tyson is not 3 out of 100, homeslice.

KC_Connection
03-17-2012, 05:36 PM
I'd like to think that Lee would win over Tyson, but I don't realistically believe that.

Hog Farmer
03-17-2012, 05:40 PM
Lee might win but his ears would be gone.

scott free
03-17-2012, 05:41 PM
I don't really think Tyson cared much for the rules. If he could have broken every one of them and gotten away with every one of them, he would have broken them....just as he would break every bone in Bruce Lee's body if those two were to fight.

Not a chance...

He would've been lucky to even land a shot on Bruce.

And Bruce could do more than stand up, he was heavy into jiu-jitsu as well.

Valiant
03-17-2012, 05:47 PM
I am sorry, but as cool as Bruce Lee was a Tyson in his Prime would dominate him.. As seen in the video above, Tyson was just as fast, heavier and stronger.. Lee's only choice would be Tyson not connecting and Lee having an diamond jaw..

Lee's kick could keep Tyson at bay, and Lee would have to take out Tyson's legs to take his power and speed away to win.. The longer the fight, the better the odds... But Tyson in his prime.. no way..

But this comment is just like who would win between superheroes, you never are really going to know..

mdchiefsfan
03-17-2012, 05:49 PM
How often do you see people in UFC and PFC winning championships with their expertise being Jeet Kune Do? Never. Generally, successful MMA guys are skilled in wrestling and/or Jiu Jitsu. I have heard somewhere (however, I admittedly can't find a source to save my life) that along with being one of the most viscious boxers of all time, he was also a skilled grappler/wrestler.

Not to mention the WEIGHT ADVANTAGE.

A common argument that I hear is that Tyson wouldn't be able to catch Bruce Lee if they were to fight. Now, Tyson has never struck me or anyone as the brightest peanut in the turd, but if he were in a fight with Bruce Lee, I doubt he would spend the majority of his time chasing him around. He would eventually wait for him and if Bruce Lee were within his grasps, chances are he could catch him... he was incredibly fast for his size. If (WHEN) Tyson catches Bruce Lee, it's over.

Bruce Lee was a human, hollywood star who happened to be a very, very skilled martial artist.

But all Bruce Lee needs is an inch. Done.

rico
03-17-2012, 05:51 PM
But all Bruce Lee needs is an inch. Done.

Well, an inch is probably all he has given the stereotype.

BigCatDaddy
03-17-2012, 05:56 PM
I'll take the guy that can kick.

rico
03-17-2012, 06:00 PM
I'll take the guy that can kick.

But what if the force of the guy's kick is 1/2 of the opponent's punch?

scott free
03-17-2012, 06:00 PM
Tyson was as fast as Lee :LOL:

Lee hardly fought any pro fights ROFL

Cant believe the crazy shit being thrown around here.

rico
03-17-2012, 06:04 PM
Tyson was as fast as Lee :LOL:

Lee hardly fought any pro fights ROFL

Cant believe the crazy shit being thrown around here.

Lee's fights in movies do not count as pro fights. If you can post a link that indicates that Bruce Lee had more than 10 pro fights (I think he had less), it'd be much appreciated.

whoman69
03-17-2012, 06:05 PM
Bruce Lee was 5'7" 128 lbs. Mike Tyson 5'10" 220. It wouldn't even be close.

ReynardMuldrake
03-17-2012, 06:08 PM
I don't think any boxer could beat a competent martial artist. Have you ever seen a boxer fight MMA? They always get choked out within 30 seconds. Boxing is a sport, not a martial art. The boxer would have zero ground fighting skills. It wouldn't even be a contest.

Micjones
03-17-2012, 06:08 PM
I'll take the guy that can kick.

Thread.

Micjones
03-17-2012, 06:09 PM
It would really depend on the rules of the fight.
If Lee could ONLY box...Tyson.
If it's no-holds barred...Lee (by a COUNTRY MILE).

3rd&48ers
03-17-2012, 06:09 PM
If Lee was alive he would win unless Tyson got his hands on him

Bowser
03-17-2012, 06:11 PM
But what if the force of the guy's kick is 1/2 of the opponent's punch?

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rico
03-17-2012, 06:12 PM
I don't think any boxer could beat a competent martial artist. Have you ever seen a boxer fight MMA? They always get choked out within 30 seconds. Boxing is a sport, not a martial art. The boxer would have zero ground fighting skills. It wouldn't even be a contest.

Not always true, but many times is. For an exception, youtube Tim Sylvia vs. Ray Mercer.. One of the funniest videos ever.

I swear I have heard that Tyson was skilled in grappling/wrestling.

Bowser
03-17-2012, 06:12 PM
Bruce Lee was 5'7" 128 lbs. Mike Tyson 5'10" 220. It wouldn't even be close.

Yeah, if Bruce sat still with his chin in the air.


Tyson will never be thought of as a chump, ever, but Bruce would win. He had too much speed and power for Tyson to deal with.

rico
03-17-2012, 06:13 PM
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LMAO The special effects in movies back then were better than I originally thought they were.

Bowser
03-17-2012, 06:14 PM
LMAO The special effects in movies back then were better than I originally thought they were.

The guy holding that bag had multiple broken ribs from that kick.

Valiant
03-17-2012, 06:14 PM
Lee's fights in movies do not count as pro fights. If you can post a link that indicates that Bruce Lee had more than 10 pro fights (I think he had less), it'd be much appreciated.

The only proof of his fights are hearsay from other people, when he did fight it was closed.. There are tons of info out there of him losing and winning the same fights depending on the witnesses.. Too much hearsay..

And the only links are hearsays..

People want to give the nod to Lee for all his fighting on the streets growing up.. Tyson did the same thing..

Everyone gives Lee this mythical level of skill, I am not saying he was not badass.. But the guy was not a god..

rico
03-17-2012, 06:15 PM
If Lee was alive he would win unless Tyson got his hands on him

Tyson would get his hands on him. I doubt he would spend the entire time basically shadow-boxing, looking like some oaf trying to swat flies off his back.

Shogun
03-17-2012, 06:15 PM
Idiots dont take into consideration Tyson is the fastest HW fighter to ever live. Saying he couldnt catch Lee is retarded.

rico
03-17-2012, 06:16 PM
The only proof of his fights are hearsay from other people, when he did fight it was closed.. There are tons of info out there of him losing and winning the same fights depending on the witnesses.. Too much hearsay..

And the only links are hearsays..

People want to give the nod to Lee for all his fighting on the streets growing up.. Tyson did the same thing..

Everyone gives Lee this mythical level of skill, I am not saying he was not badass.. But the guy was not a god..

This.

scott free
03-17-2012, 06:16 PM
Lee's fights in movies do not count as pro fights. If you can post a link that indicates that Bruce Lee had more than 10 pro fights (I think he had less), it'd be much appreciated.

There are more than ten listed here, and even it were just 10, he was still the most well rounded guy by far.

In the end its a silly argument though, we'll never know.

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081019020615AADPbTB

ReynardMuldrake
03-17-2012, 06:16 PM
Not always true, but many times is. For an exception, youtube Tim Sylvia vs. Ray Mercer.. One of the funniest videos ever.

I swear I have heard that Tyson was skilled in grappling/wrestling.

If you can find a link, I will watch it.

3rd&48ers
03-17-2012, 06:17 PM
Lee would have hit him 7 times before he even got his hands up

Shogun
03-17-2012, 06:18 PM
If you can find a link, I will watch it.

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Bowser
03-17-2012, 06:18 PM
In all honesty, both guys would probably beat each other to a pulp.

rico
03-17-2012, 06:19 PM
There are more than ten listed here, and even it were just 10, he was still the most well rounded guy by far.

In the end its a silly argument though, we'll never know.

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081019020615AADPbTB

1.) The majority of those fights were exhibition/street fights. Not pro fights.

2.) Whether many of those fights occurred or not is universally debateable.

ReynardMuldrake
03-17-2012, 06:23 PM
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Wow. That was pathetic. Dude was barely even defending himself.

However, I did say competent martial artist. I stand by my original statement.

rico
03-17-2012, 06:25 PM
Wow. That was pathetic. Dude was barely even defending himself.

However, I did say competent martial artist. I stand by my original statement.

Although I think Tim Sylvia is a prag, to his defense, he is a former 2 time UFC heavyweight champion.

Shogun
03-17-2012, 06:26 PM
Wow. That was pathetic. Dude was barely even defending himself.

However, I did say competent martial artist. I stand by my original statement.

Tim Sylvia used to be the UFC hw champ. Although hes seen his better days, and was champ in a weak division at the time. He's really no pushover. Just goes to show any talented boxer who can check a kick, has power and speed. Can knock anybody out, Lee included.

ReynardMuldrake
03-17-2012, 06:35 PM
Tim Sylvia used to be the UFC hw champ. Although hes seen his better days, and was champ in a weak division at the time. He's really no pushover. Just goes to show any talented boxer who can check a kick, has power and speed. Can knock anybody out, Lee included.

I'm not familiar with the guy so I will take your word for it. I feel that boxing is a sport and not a legit martial art. I'm usually going to go with the superior martial artist. I believe a single-discipline boxer will always be at a huge disadvantage against a competent ground fighter in any one-on-one street fight.

stevieray
03-17-2012, 06:47 PM
Lee did pushups with his forefinger and thumb.


the amount of force in that psi would destroy Tyson.

..it wouldn't last one round.

rico
03-17-2012, 06:52 PM
Lee did pushups with his forefinger and thumb.


the amount of force in that psi would destroy Tyson.

..it wouldn't last one round.

Do you believe that Lee would walk his way through every weight division in the UFC?

rico
03-17-2012, 07:22 PM
Lol, 35-6.... no offense, but that is just plain stupid.

Anyways, now we are in a discussion as to who would win in a fight between Floyd Mayweather and Bruce Lee..... now that I have no idea.

Bane
03-17-2012, 07:24 PM
If you picked Tyson,go **** your mother.




Idiots.

Oh and go fuck yourself for not making it a public poll you stupid motherfucker!

rico
03-17-2012, 07:25 PM
If you picked Tyson,go **** your mother.




Idiots.

If you picked Lee, back your answer up with something other than myths, homeslices.

Bane
03-17-2012, 07:30 PM
If you picked Lee, back your answer up with something other than myths, homeslices.

Bruce Lee would have hit that sack of shit 45 times before Tyson could even find him.The end.

rico
03-17-2012, 07:34 PM
Bruce Lee would have hit that sack of shit 45 times before Tyson could even find him.The end.

I'm sure you probably came to this conclusion after watching Enter the Dragon opposed to actually watching him participate in a competitive professional fight. Brilliant.

Chief_For_Life58
03-17-2012, 07:34 PM
I voted Lee. Come on ITS BRUCE LEE!!!

Although on 2nd thought, Tyson would have 50lbs on Lee. Also, most Pro-Boxers would dominate UFC martial artists as long as the fight stays upright, and I doubt Lee would do well on the ground with Tyson anyhow.

False, false, and false again.

Tyson would have more then 50 pounds on bruce. Mike walked around at 230 easily, bruce was definitely under 150.
Pro boxers would definitely NOT dominate ufc fighters even if it stayed standing. ufc fighters train boxing everyday and are are also professionals at all types of kicks, elbows, dirty boxing, and clinching. mayweather might win the fight, (only saying theyre standing), but all other pro boxers would not dominate a pro ufc fighter.
Lastly, bruce was the first mma fighter in the world. He used all techniques and flowed like water. He might of been the ****ing man. but my bets on tyson. One connection from tyson and its over. Bruce takes him down though, my moneys on bruce choking him out or breaking his arm.

Bane
03-17-2012, 07:37 PM
I'm sure you probably came to this conclusion after watching Enter the Dragon opposed to actually watching him participate in a competitive professional fight. Brilliant.

So Bruce Lee never really fought in your opinion?

rico
03-17-2012, 07:41 PM
So Bruce Lee never really fought in your opinion?

He has had "fights," but the majority of them were exhibitions and hearsay street fights. Professionally speaking, well...he doesn't have a pro-fight record... Tyson does...and it's impressive. Bruce Lee was an expert martial artist, but was glamorized to mythic proportions by Hollywood.

Bane
03-17-2012, 07:43 PM
He has had "fights," but the majority of them were exhibitions and hearsay street fights. Professionally speaking, well...he doesn't have a pro-fight record... Tyson does...and it's impressive. Bruce Lee was an expert martial artist, but was glamorized to mythic proportions by Hollywood.

Awesome.You have your opinion and I have mine.Bruce Lee would have beat the living fuck out of Mike Tyson.You can't prove me wrong.The end.

Superturtle
03-17-2012, 07:44 PM
Depends on what kind of fight...

alnorth
03-17-2012, 07:52 PM
Assuming its a cage match, I'd say Tyson, and it wouldn't even be particularly close. Lee would get a few hits in, Tyson would ignore the pain, get angry, bull in, and once the grappling starts, its over. Dude's got almost 100 pounds on him.

pikesome
03-17-2012, 07:54 PM
The first thing Bruce Lee would do is cripple him if we're talking no-holds barred. Wouldn't even be a contest.

I took a 4 month basic self-defense/judo class and it was 80% "how to not get raped by some one with 6" and 80lbs on you" for women. I'd have to think Tyson would be wearing knee braces for the rest of his life afterwards.

alnorth
03-17-2012, 07:55 PM
The first thing Bruce Lee would do is cripple him if we're talking no-holds barred. Wouldn't even be a contest.

I took a 4 month basic self-defense/judo class and it was 80% "how to not get raped by some one with 6" and 80lbs on you" for women. I'd have to think Tyson would be wearing knee braces for the rest of his life afterwards.

He's not going to cripple Tyson without being caught. Maybe Tyson has to go to the hospital after the fight, but his ambulance would be following Lee's ambulance.

Bane
03-17-2012, 07:56 PM
Assuming its a cage match, I'd say Tyson, and it wouldn't even be particularly close. Lee would get a few hits in, Tyson would ignore the pain, get angry, bull in, and once the grappling starts, its over. Dude's got almost 100 pounds on him.

Tyson has absolutely zero grappling skills and Lee would dislocate or beak whatever joint of Tyson's he locked up.It would be similar to when we dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

alnorth
03-17-2012, 08:01 PM
Tyson has absolutely zero grappling skills and Lee would dislocate or beak whatever joint of Tyson's he locked up.It would be similar to when we dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Well, I was hypothetically conceding a grappling situation without arguing the point that it would ever get that far.

However, I don't have to concede that Lee would ever get anywhere close to him to break a bone before he gets his face caved in. Tyson is not some lumbering giant, in his prime he was good due to his incredible speed.

DJJasonp
03-17-2012, 08:04 PM
Bruce would pull this on Tyson:
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rico
03-17-2012, 08:04 PM
Awesome.You have your opinion and I have mine.Bruce Lee would have beat the living **** out of Mike Tyson.You can't prove me wrong.The end.

No way dude, Mike Tyson would bite Bruce Lee's ears off and kill him via shoving his ears down his own throat. Tyson wins. You have been proven wrong because you disagree with me because I am always right and everyone else is always wrong because I know all the answers and they don't because they thought it was even possible to disagree with me and be right, which is insulting because I am someone who is always right.

Bowser
03-17-2012, 08:06 PM
Jesus, all this thread needs is Wickedson and patteeu saying the rest of us don't know shit about fuck.

Bane
03-17-2012, 08:06 PM
No way dude, Mike Tyson would bite Bruce Lee's ears off and kill him via shoving his ears down his own throat. Tyson wins. You have been proven wrong because you disagree with me because I am always right and everyone else is always wrong because I know all the answers and they don't because they thought it was even possible to disagree with me and be right, which is insulting because I am someone who is always right.

I saw Tyson in Best Buy and he said Bruce Lee would beat his ass...The end.

pikesome
03-17-2012, 08:07 PM
He's not going to cripple Tyson without being caught. Maybe Tyson has to go to the hospital after the fight, but his ambulance would be following Lee's ambulance.

My instructor was a probably 5' 4", 160lbs Korean with a phd in judo from the University of Soul, I would have taken him straight up against Tyson.

We were in class a couple days and had already gone over gouging eyes, breaking colarbones and metatarsals.

Hell, I watched our instructor warm up by doing flat footed jumps and grabbing the basketball goal with both hands. And just watching do axe kicks made your testises shrink.

Got to figure Lee in his prime was no worse.

Bowser
03-17-2012, 08:08 PM
I saw Tyson in Best Buy and he said Bruce Lee would beat his ass...The end.

The one in Leawood? Everyone goes there.

rico
03-17-2012, 08:09 PM
I saw Tyson in Best Buy and he said Bruce Lee would beat his ass...The end.



I read an interview that claimed that Bruce Lee personally stated that he thought Muhammad Ali could beat his (_l_). I know, Muhammad Ali and Tyson are two totally different fighters, but it's comparable. The end to all endings.

pikesome
03-17-2012, 08:09 PM
I saw Tyson in Best Buy and he said Bruce Lee would beat his ass...The end.

Buying a stereo for his new house?

rico
03-17-2012, 08:10 PM
My instructor was a probably 5' 4", 160lbs Korean with a phd in judo from the University of Soul, I would have taken him straight up against Tyson.

We were in class a couple days and had already gone over gouging eyes, breaking colarbones and metatarsals.

Hell, I watched our instructor warm up by doing flat footed jumps and grabbing the basketball goal with both hands. And just watching do axe kicks made your testises shrink.

Got to figure Lee in his prime was no worse.

Your instructor should pursue a career in the UFC. Oh wait... nevermind. The odds would be against him.

rico
03-17-2012, 08:11 PM
Am I the only one who has seen/read/heard that Tyson has grappling/wrestling schools that originated when he was in his teens? I wish I could find some linkage for that.

Bane
03-17-2012, 08:11 PM
I read an interview that claimed that Bruce Lee personally stated that he thought Muhammad Ali could beat his (_l_). I know, Muhammad Ali and Tyson are two totally different fighters, but it's comparable. The end to all endings.

Cool.I can't force you to be right.LMAO

pikesome
03-17-2012, 08:12 PM
Your instructor should pursue a career in the UFC. Oh wait... nevermind. The odds would be against him.

I think they frown on purposely crippling people in UFC.

Besides, this was like 15 years ago. I know asians don't age but there are limits.

T-post Tom
03-17-2012, 08:15 PM
Tattoos don't hit back.

PornChief
03-17-2012, 08:19 PM
Tyson fought actual fights

rico
03-17-2012, 08:22 PM
Cool.I can't force you to be right.LMAO

Now that is actually right. You can't force someone to be right when they already are right. There is no need.

ThaVirus
03-17-2012, 08:23 PM
Lee did pushups with his forefinger and thumb.


the amount of force in that psi would destroy Tyson.

..it wouldn't last one round.

I was going to say this. As well as "performing elevated v-sits for extended periods of time" and routinely curling over 100 lbs. The guys upper body and core were conditioned beyond belief. Legendary. Not to mention his kicks, as already demonstrated in the video clip. They said it was "like being hit by a car".

With all that said Tyson did have 100 pounds on him and they're both world class fighters in their own right. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tyson win. That uppercut was like nothing I've ever seen before..

KC Tattoo
03-17-2012, 08:23 PM
Chuck Norris

Bruce Lee kicked Chuck Norris ass.

dred
03-17-2012, 08:42 PM
Chuck Norris

Nope. :thumb:

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listopencil
03-17-2012, 09:00 PM
Bruce Lee was a human, hollywood star who happened to be a very, very skilled martial artist.

Wrong. Bruce Lee was a fucking ninja master who was so cool that someone put him in movies. Bruce Lee would destroy Tyson.

listopencil
03-17-2012, 09:00 PM
Bruce Lee kicked Chuck Norris ass.

^

Molitoth
03-17-2012, 09:04 PM
As cool as Lee was, Tyson was a beast.. I'd take Tyson.

Strongside
03-17-2012, 09:05 PM
Tyson over Lee is something I would put a million dollars on if I had it.

This. Lee was an amazing martial artist, but Tysons size and strength advantage would play heavily here. Assuming it were a street fight and there were no rules, the fight would almost certainly end up on the ground. If this were the case, Tyson would smother Lee and the game's over. Look, I'm a huge Bruce Lee fan, and I think he was one of the baddest dudes that ever lived...but Mike Tyson in his prime would kill most people with his bare hands.

-King-
03-17-2012, 09:07 PM
One good punch from Tyson mike kill Lee. I just can't see how Lee can get over the size advantage. It's not some regular joe who happens to be big. It's one of the fastest, most powerful boxers in the world. Lee can do a lot, but he'd have to be on his absolute best game to beat Tyson.

Strongside
03-17-2012, 09:09 PM
The one that's always intrigued me is Ali vs Tyson. The prototype fight for power against speed. I would give my left nut to see that fight.

listopencil
03-17-2012, 09:10 PM
This. Lee was an amazing martial artist, but Tysons size and strength advantage would play heavily here. Assuming it were a street fight and there were no rules, the fight would almost certainly end up on the ground. If this were the case, Tyson would smother Lee and the game's over. Look, I'm a huge Bruce Lee fan, and I think he was one of the baddest dudes that ever lived...but Mike Tyson in his prime would kill most people with his bare hands.


Lee was quite capable of killing Tyson with merely a few strikes.

Setsuna
03-17-2012, 09:14 PM
Who the fuck picks Mike Tyson? Bruce Lee could make your balls explode in one move. Dude was too fucking fast.

listopencil
03-17-2012, 09:16 PM
Who the **** picks Mike Tyson? Bruce Lee could make your balls explode in one move. Dude was too ****ing fast.

^

QuikSsurfer
03-17-2012, 09:46 PM
As a third generation JKD student - I can say with confidence that in a no rules fight, Bruce would handle Mike easily.

rico
03-17-2012, 10:22 PM
As a third generation JKD student - I can say with confidence that in a no rules fight, Bruce would handle Mike easily.

As a former collegiate wrassler, I can say with confidence that in a no rules fight, JKD is for the birds.

Jk...to an extent. All depends on the JKD student. A lot of them are birds, but I'm sure there might be 1 or 2 of them out there that aren't....but if they aren't birds, they probably have wrasslin skills.

But Tyson would kill Bruce Lee. No doubt about it.

There is a JKD clinic in our area. These people were feared locally. Heck, the biggest prag in the world would simply start attending sessions there, and they were seemingly automatically given tough guy badges. I never bought that crap. I always thought they were birds. Their tough guy images were tarnished a bit when they actually started competing in MMA and every one of them got their (_l_)s handed to them (unless they had wrasslin experience). The real deals in the MMA in our area are the former wrasslers.

rico
03-17-2012, 10:23 PM
Wrong. Bruce Lee was a ****ing ninja master who was so cool that someone put him in movies. Bruce Lee would destroy Tyson.

Hey man, Tyson is so cool that he was put in movies.... Hangover, yo.

jd1020
03-17-2012, 10:26 PM
It would be hard for me to take Lee in a fight vs Tyson. There's a reason why there are weight classes.

suds79
03-17-2012, 10:27 PM
Bruce Lee was amazing. A master of his craft. Having said that, I think he's highly overrated because I believe there's a lot of people out there who think he could take just about anybody... ever.

This notion is ridiculous. What was Brue Lee? A buck 35? Maybe 155? Can't pretend like that doesn't matter. There's a reason why all fighting leagues have weight classes.

I went Tyson. Would have broken Bruce's body had he even blocked a punch.

He'd get handled by over half of the professional MMAers out there today with the development of the ground game.

rico
03-17-2012, 10:30 PM
The one that's always intrigued me is Ali vs Tyson. The prototype fight for power against speed. I would give my left nut to see that fight.

Me too man. The cool thing about those two is their mutual respect for each other's skills. Obviously Tyson looked up to Ali as an inspiring boxer in his youth. And respect from Ali to Tyson was indicated when they both appeared on The Arsenio Hall Show. I can't remember what Ali said or did exactly, but I think he looked at Tyson and was like, "ooohhhweeee, I aint gonna be messin' with this boy, he'll knock my head off." And Tyson said something along the lines of, "yeth Mithter Ali, I have tho much rethpect fol you."

You know what would have been interesting.... Mike Tyson vs. Sonny Liston. There's another dude who could have killed Bruce Lee. Sonny Liston.

MOhillbilly
03-17-2012, 10:31 PM
In a street fight tyson pulls a gun and sprays bruces brains into the atmosphere.

rico
03-17-2012, 10:34 PM
The real question should be, "who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Robin Givens?" Or, "who could stay married to Mike Tyson the longest and survive? Bruce Lee, or Robin Givens?" I'm giving the edge to Givens here.

Bowser
03-17-2012, 10:38 PM
Bruce Lee created a new form of martial arts.

Mike Tyson bit an ear off in the ring when he was losing.

TYSON BY A MILE

WhiteWhale
03-17-2012, 10:39 PM
Bruce Lee was amazing. A master of his craft. Having said that, I think he's highly overrated because I believe there's a lot of people out there who think he could take just about anybody... ever.

This notion is ridiculous. What was Brue Lee? A buck 35? Maybe 155? Can't pretend like that doesn't matter. There's a reason why all fighting leagues have weight classes.

I went Tyson. Would have broken Bruce's body had he even blocked a punch.

He'd get handled by over half of the professional MMAers out there today with the development of the ground game.

Bruce Lee was 130 pounds.

I don't doubt Lee's prowess, and I think he was ahead of the curve on martial arts when he started integrating boxing stances and western training techniques into his own form. Had Lee remained, his style would have continued to develop to take advantage of the proven strength of grappling... probably before it became trendy too.

Having said that... Tyson had 100 lbs on Lee and punched with enough force to be LETHAL. His defense was among the best in the business, and his combinations were deadly.

Now there are recorded incidents of Lee showing up to kickboxing tournaments and insisting their best fighters could not defense his punches. The champion, in three attempts, let Lee's fist slip through his guard (Lee did not strike him, but the point was made). He kicked like a mule and only kicked low, so your legs would be in peril.

Who would win in a street fight? Tyson. Tyson is a mean motherfucker who is really just a criminal who got lucky. Ferocity is the most important thing in a street fight. In almost every fight I"ve seen or partook in, the meaner person won.

I know you 'tap out' guys think MMA is everything. It's great, and as far as technique goes it's advanced the science of ass whipping. In the real world in a street fight science often goes by the wayside. Once it's a dog-fight, the meanest guy wins.

QuikSsurfer
03-17-2012, 10:46 PM
As a former collegiate wrassler, I can say with confidence that in a no rules fight, JKD is for the birds.

Jk...to an extent. All depends on the JKD student. A lot of them are birds, but I'm sure there might be 1 or 2 of them out there that aren't....but if they aren't birds, they probably have wrasslin skills.

But Tyson would kill Bruce Lee. No doubt about it.

There is a JKD clinic in our area. These people were feared locally. Heck, the biggest prag in the world would simply start attending sessions there, and they were seemingly automatically given tough guy badges. I never bought that crap. I always thought they were birds. Their tough guy images were tarnished a bit when they actually started competing in MMA and every one of them got their (_l_)s handed to them (unless they had wrasslin experience). The real deals in the MMA in our area are the former wrasslers.

I didn't get past this. Formless scientific street fighting is what Bruce called it. Heh and this discussion is pretty fucking retarded. Tyson is a standup fighter.. He has no grapple skills or real ground game.. No one can deny the size advantage -- Bruce was 5'7 142lbs on his best day... I don't think a lot of you understand how much power this little guy could generate...
If Bruce ate a direct punch from Mike -- he'd be out... I just don't think he'd be able to hit him..
If Bruce pendulum stepped a side kick into Tyson's midrib, he wouldn't just stand there and absorb the kick... heh.

KC Tattoo
03-18-2012, 12:09 AM
Bruce Lee is dead. So yea I should of voted for Mike Tyson, he is not dead.

Bump
03-18-2012, 12:10 AM
what kind of stupid question is this? Bruce Lee would destroy Tyson and it wouldn't even be close.

T-post Tom
03-18-2012, 12:23 AM
Big Dragon Whipping Its Tail

Setsuna
03-18-2012, 12:47 AM
To be technical. Tyson does have a lot of weight and height on Lee, but you can't cover your entire body with muscle, there are bones at the surface of your skin no matter how buff you are, and Lee can locate and break them in one strike. Muscles don't mean shit if there is no bone structure to support them. Sorry. It's like having a sky scraper and taking out it's cornerstone and collapse city.

scott free
03-18-2012, 12:57 AM
Bruce Lee was 130 pounds.

I don't doubt Lee's prowess, and I think he was ahead of the curve on martial arts when he started integrating boxing stances and western training techniques into his own form. Had Lee remained, his style would have continued to develop to take advantage of the proven strength of grappling... probably before it became trendy too.

Having said that... Tyson had 100 lbs on Lee and punched with enough force to be LETHAL. His defense was among the best in the business, and his combinations were deadly.

Now there are recorded incidents of Lee showing up to kickboxing tournaments and insisting their best fighters could not defense his punches. The champion, in three attempts, let Lee's fist slip through his guard (Lee did not strike him, but the point was made). He kicked like a mule and only kicked low, so your legs would be in peril.

Who would win in a street fight? Tyson. Tyson is a mean mother****er who is really just a criminal who got lucky. Ferocity is the most important thing in a street fight. In almost every fight I"ve seen or partook in, the meaner person won.

I know you 'tap out' guys think MMA is everything. It's great, and as far as technique goes it's advanced the science of ass whipping. In the real world in a street fight science often goes by the wayside. Once it's a dog-fight, the meanest guy wins.

I was agreeing with almost everything, up until the point you seemed to say that only young, too dumb to do anything else street criminals can be vicious & have a killer instinct.

Mean has no address, you can find it anywhere.

Fishpicker
03-18-2012, 12:58 AM
Lee FTW via toe jab to the groin, followed up by tumbling leg scissor takedown and figure-four toe hold.

there's only a few legendary caliber fighters that could even stand a chance vs. Lee; Masahiko Kimura, Gene LeBell, or Antonio Inoki.

maybe Nick Diaz (while high) if they fought with Nunchucks.

rico
03-18-2012, 01:09 AM
To be technical. Tyson does have a lot of weight and height on Lee, but you can't cover your entire body with muscle, there are bones at the surface of your skin no matter how buff you are, and Lee can locate and break them in one strike. Muscles don't mean shit if there is no bone structure to support them. Sorry. It's like having a sky scraper and taking out it's cornerstone and collapse city.

Lordy, the way people talk about Bruce Lee, you'd think he was one of the X-Men. In reality, Bruce Lee was not an X-Man, he was an actor....and an expert martial artist who just so happened to introduce his collectively learned style of martial arts to Western culture and attain "mythical" status as a result. Many Chinamen since Bruce have probably perfected his own style of martial arts to a higher level than Bruce himself. None of these Chinamen could take on ol' Dederick Tatum aka Mike Tyson. If there were no Bruce Lee, people may actually make outrageous claims like Jet Li or Jackie Chan could beat Tyson's (_l_). Hopefully nobody thinks that, or else I will just assume that this board has not GONE full retard, but IS full retard.

Mike Tyson was the best ever. He was the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there's ever been. There's no one can stop him. Bruce Lee is a conquerer? No, Mike is Alexander, he's no Alexander. He's the best ever! There's never been anybody as ruthless! He's Sonny Liston, he's Jack Dempsey. There's no one like him. He's from their cloth. There is no one who can match him. His style is impetuous, his defense is impregnable, and he's just ferocious. He wants Bruce Lee's heart! He will eat Bruce Lee's children (Mike Tyson...the necrophiliac)! Praise be to Allah!

stevieray
03-18-2012, 01:47 AM
fighting isn't just about striking, it's also about making people miss...i'd wager lee could let tyson wear himself out without even throwing one strike...and when he did...goodnight tyson chicken.

Lee could play ping pong with numchuks...let's be real...his hand/eye coordination was nothing short of incredible

rico
03-18-2012, 02:01 AM
fighting isn't just about striking, it's also about making people miss...i'd wager lee could let tyson wear himself out without even throwing one strike...and when he did...goodnight tyson chicken.

Lee could play ping pong with numchuks...let's be real...his hand/eye coordination was nothing short of incredible

As I mentioned earlier, Tyson being a proven competitive PROFESSIONAL combative fighter, I doubt that he would be aimlessly throwing punches at Bruce Lee like a fat man trying to swat flies off his back to the point where he shuts down. There would come a point where Lee would be forced to be offensive and when that point comes....Tyson buries him.

burt
03-18-2012, 07:20 AM
As a third generation JKD student - I can say with confidence that in a no rules fight, Bruce would handle Mike easily.

Just Kiddin' Dude"?

burt
03-18-2012, 07:23 AM
Once it's a dog-fight, the meanest guy wins.

Utter Bullshit!

burt
03-18-2012, 07:29 AM
people may actually make outrageous claims like Jet Li or Jackie Chan could beat Tyson's (_l_).

Chan would win if the fought in a furniture store!ROFL

threebag02
03-18-2012, 08:46 AM
This should be Bruce Lee Planet...he can't tell us no.

QuikSsurfer
03-18-2012, 08:57 AM
Just Kiddin' Dude"?
lol
Jeet Kune Do

stonedstooge
03-18-2012, 09:04 AM
Tyson getting whupped by Buster Douglas is still the greatest upset in any individual sport of all time. It was fucking awesome

threebag02
03-18-2012, 09:35 AM
As cool as Lee was, Tyson was a beast.. I'd take Tyson and eat his children over and over.

Bruce would pick Tyson apart.

rico
03-18-2012, 09:43 AM
Tyson getting whupped by Buster Douglas is still the greatest upset in any individual sport of all time. It was ****ing awesome

Buster fought his ass off in that bout. And to think he lost his mother a few days before that....

Shaid
03-18-2012, 09:56 AM
I've got to go Tyson. Lee would probably get a bunch of shots in but Tyson would just have to get a hold of him or throw one nasty punch and it's over.

bevischief
03-18-2012, 10:09 AM
Where the hell is the Gaz option?

rico
03-18-2012, 10:13 AM
Where the hell is the Gaz option?

Lol, I don't get the Gaz joke....and when I asked once, the response I received was, "stfu n00b." So I purposely neglected the Gaz option.

lcarus
03-18-2012, 10:36 AM
I don't know. I voted Lee because he has more skills than just throwing haymakers, and he's faster and smarter. But this is a fight I wanna see now. Too bad it will never happen.

burt
03-18-2012, 10:39 AM
Lol, I don't get the Gaz joke....and when I asked once, the response I received was, "stfu n00b." So I purposely neglected the Gaz option.

That is why I didn't vote! oh, and...........stfu n00b!

rico
03-18-2012, 11:21 AM
That is why I didn't vote! oh, and...........stfu n00b!

I'm assuming...... Gaz is your lover.....? Didn't intend to disrespect, sir.

Valiant
03-18-2012, 11:50 AM
Lol, I don't get the Gaz joke....and when I asked once, the response I received was, "stfu n00b." So I purposely neglected the Gaz option.

It is a dumb option, even more so that there is only a small group that posted when gaz posted.. And it seems most that add gaz as an option never knew/around when he posted.

gaz was given mythical status like lee for Chiefsplanet also..

Strongside
03-18-2012, 12:01 PM
Regardless of what Tyson could or couldn't do vs. Lee, I think Lee would get destroyed in the ring with a modern day MMA fighter...Anderson Silva for example. If you don't believe me, watch some of the earliest MMA fights...These fights pitted guys of different skills and backgrounds against each other and no one was really rounded in more than one discipline. Some of the greatest martial artists in the world (world champions even) competed in those early fights and they all lost to a guy who looked like he ran a 7-11 in Royce Gracie. It didn't matter how fast the Karate, JKD, and TKD guys were on their feet or that they could locate pressure points and strike quickly, because Gracie was going to put you on your back and take you completely out of your element. Gracie's Jiu-Jitsu was so far advanced that he was virtually unbeatable by fighters of standup disciplines, as Lee would have been. Gracie changed the fighting landscape, much like Lee changed the world with his martial arts skills. I have no doubt that if Lee were to learn the craft of MMA, he'd be a bad dude. But if we took a time machine and threw Anderson Silva in the ring with Bruce Lee, and said 'no rules' Silva wins that fight 100 out of 100 times. Hands down.

Silva, for those who don't know:
http://slcmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mma_silva2x_600.jpg

Rausch
03-18-2012, 12:03 PM
Tyson was all talent and no technique...

ChiefRocka
03-18-2012, 12:16 PM
Would Lee bite back?

The Dawg
03-18-2012, 12:59 PM
Peyton Manning

CoMoChief
03-18-2012, 01:02 PM
In a real fight....no regulations...just street fight.....Tyson would win, and not only win he'd kill him and then eat him.

Rausch
03-18-2012, 01:03 PM
In a real fight....no regulations...just street fight.....Tyson would win, and not only win he'd kill him and then eat him.

You smoke teh crack...

-King-
03-18-2012, 01:14 PM
Tyson was all talent and no technique...

:spock:

You don't get to be as great as he was without technique.

JOhn
03-18-2012, 01:26 PM
It is a dumb option, even more so that there is only a small group that posted when gaz posted.. And it seems most that add gaz as an option never knew/around when he posted.

gaz was given mythical status like lee for Chiefsplanet also..

Hell he was here when you joined....

Mostly us old timers remember him. Just a nostalgia thing, and nothing wrong with that. IMHO

Rausch
03-18-2012, 01:28 PM
:spock:

You don't get to be as great as he was without technique.

He wasn't great.

It's why he got clubbed by schlubs...

burt
03-18-2012, 01:36 PM
I'm assuming...... Gaz is your lover.....? Didn't intend to disrespect, sir.

Don't ever fucking assume when dealing with me n00b!

J Diddy
03-18-2012, 01:39 PM
It is a dumb option, even more so that there is only a small group that posted when gaz posted.. And it seems most that add gaz as an option never knew/around when he posted.

gaz was given mythical status like lee for Chiefsplanet also..

Yeah I'm all about moving past the Gaz stage. He was humorous, but nothing life changing.

J Diddy
03-18-2012, 01:42 PM
I don't know. I voted Lee because he has more skills than just throwing haymakers, and he's faster and smarter. But this is a fight I wanna see now. Too bad it will never happen.

Disagree. Lee could fight for sure, but if Tyson landed just one. Lee would be down for the count. (I'm talking pre-prison, heyday here)

rico
03-18-2012, 01:42 PM
Don't ever ****ing assume when dealing with me n00b!

Man, I'm starting to assume that 90% of the posters on this board could beat Bruce Lee's ass. A lot of TOUGH mofos on here... well, at least I assume they are
TOUGH given some of their posts. Man, if I can just stick it out for a few more years, I can be a TOUGH mofo also! I can't wait!

burt
03-18-2012, 01:43 PM
He wasn't great.

It's why he got clubbed by schlubs...

Um.....actually, for a time, NO ONE had a chance against him. Until Cus died then Tyson got sideways.

burt
03-18-2012, 01:44 PM
Man, I'm starting to assume that 90% of the posters on this board could beat Bruce Lee's ass. A lot of TOUGH mofos on here... well, at least I assume they are
TOUGH given some of their posts. Man, if I can just stick it out for a few more years, I can be a TOUGH mofo also! I can't wait!

I am about to go Tyson up side your head, little fuuzy peach man n00b!
































j/k as I was in my last post!

rico
03-18-2012, 01:45 PM
Um.....actually, for a time, NO ONE had a chance against him. Until Cus died then Tyson got sideways.

Tyson appeared untouchable around the time he fought Berbick and Spinks.

burt
03-18-2012, 01:52 PM
Rudiments appeared untouchable around the time he fought Berbick and Spinks.

Before the Spinks Tyson fight, I believed Spinks would win. He had a significant reach advantage and EVERY punch Tyson threw his elbow was lockd in a 445 degree angle(powerful and destructive). If I was Spinks manager, I woulda had Spinks running 5 miles a day backward, throwing jabs. But alas, Spinks had no such strategy and was only in it for a payday.

trndobrd
03-18-2012, 01:54 PM
Tale of the Tape:

Tyson is around 5' 10" and weighed in around 215 during his prime. Lee was 5' 7" and around 145. Lee would give up 75lbs but only a few inches in reach.

Assuming a no-rules fight I think Lee has an 80% chance of winning.

70% probability: Tyson comes at Lee in boxers stance, Lee sidekick to Tyson knee or groin. Fight over.

10% probability: Tyson comes at Lee. Lee's side kick misses entirely. Tyson closes the distance and lands a combination. Fight over.

10% probability: Tyson comes at Lee. Lee side kicks and connects, but fails to deliver shot directly on knee or groin. Lee keeps Tyson at bay with kicks until Tyson bull rushes, Lee knees Tyson or gains control of a limb and breaks it. Fight over.

10% probability: Tyson comes at Lee. Lee side kicks and connects, but fails to deliver shot directly on knee or groin. Lee keeps Tyson at bay with kicks until Tyson bull rushes. Tyson catches Lee with an uppercut. Fight over.


Bottom line, Tyson has to close the distance to overcome Lee's kicking ability. Tyson has no experience defending himself from kicks below his waist.

rico
03-18-2012, 01:55 PM
Before the Spinks Tyson fight, I believed Spinks would win. He had a significant reach advantage and EVERY punch Tyson threw his elbow was lockd in a 445 degree angle(powerful and destructive). If I was Spinks manager, I woulda had Spinks running 5 miles a day backward, throwing jabs. But alas, Spinks had no such strategy and was only in it for a payday.

I have no idea how this auto word thing on my phone substituted "rudiments" when I was trying to type "Tyson."

burt
03-18-2012, 01:57 PM
I have no idea how this auto word thing on my phone substituted "rudiments" when I was trying to type "Tyson."

Bullshit. You just really misspelled Tyson, admit it.

burt
03-18-2012, 02:01 PM
Tyson has no experience defending himself from kicks below his waist.

But Tyson DOES have years of bull rushing in, bobbing enough to make professional boxers pucnes glance off of him ineffectively. Tyson would be difficult to land a decent blow to, feet or hands, as he bull rushed in, throwing short hooks and uppercuts. IN HIS PRIME.

Rausch
03-18-2012, 02:21 PM
Tyson keeps getting pimped like he's some great champ.

He's not.

He wouldn't take an Ali, Foreman, Frazier, or Joe Lewis.

Tyson had absolutely no technique, skill, or strategy in the ring. HE was a frothing pit bull...

Ebolapox
03-18-2012, 02:38 PM
a few points of contention...

1) instead of saying 'ass' or 'butt,' you go to the trouble to type "(_|_)" ...this is completely retarded.

2) haven't heard about whether tyson had any grappling/wrestling training. it's highly unlikely, though, given his upbringing/background. he only got into boxing after being sent to juvenile detention/ boy's school. this part of his life is well documented, with NO mention of 'grappling/wrestling' training.

3) your avatar is retarded.

4) you are retarded.

5) this thread is offensive to all of mankind, second only in scope to the holocaust. you should be ashamed of yourself.

6) sex with your mother > brady quinn > matt cassel > sex with your sister > this thread > your retarded use of (_|_) > you.

7) Die in an aidsfire you cocksucking maggot piece of shit, drink a gallon of antifreeze while gargling your father's testicles. I am a draftabulator and the smartest person on the fucking planet you piece of assnugget rabes mouth-breathing shit.

8) wait, what?

CoMoChief
03-18-2012, 02:50 PM
Bruce Lee was about 140lbs.

Do you realize how small that is?!?!? LMAO

I think I weighed more than that in 6th grade.

CoMoChief
03-18-2012, 02:50 PM
a few points of contention...

1) instead of saying 'ass' or 'butt,' you go to the trouble to type "(_|_)" ...this is completely retarded.

2) haven't heard about whether tyson had any grappling/wrestling training. it's highly unlikely, though, given his upbringing/background. he only got into boxing after being sent to juvenile detention/ boy's school. this part of his life is well documented, with NO mention of 'grappling/wrestling' training.

3) your avatar is retarded.

4) you are retarded.

5) this thread is offensive to all of mankind, second only in scope to the holocaust. you should be ashamed of yourself.

6) sex with your mother > brady quinn > matt cassel > sex with your sister > this thread > your retarded use of (_|_) > you.

7) Die in an aidsfire you cocksucking maggot piece of shit, drink a gallon of antifreeze while gargling your father's testicles. I am a draftabulator and the smartest person on the ****ing planet you piece of assnugget rabes mouth-breathing shit.

8) wait, what?

:LOL:

pr_capone
03-18-2012, 02:54 PM
Tyson was all talent and no technique...

:spock:

I agree with 98% of what you post. This is the 2%.

listopencil
03-18-2012, 03:14 PM
Tyson keeps getting pimped like he's some great champ.

He's not.

He wouldn't take an Ali, Foreman, Frazier, or Joe Lewis.

Tyson had absolutely no technique, skill, or strategy in the ring. HE was a frothing pit bull...


Yep. Very true. He was not a skilled fighter at all.

The Iron Chief
03-18-2012, 03:19 PM
Is this really even in question?

Both my sons are closing in on their black belts and I can tell you I could pick many of their teachers that could kick his a$$.
It might take them a minute to penetrate his thick skull or a few more hits than the average joe but were talking Bruce Lee here.. this is a no brainer.

The only way Tyson wins is if the high level black belt has a complete and total brain lock for a moment and Tyson gets one of his patented hay makers in right to the head.

In fact I can think of one or two of my sons Lady teachers/masters that I'd place money on.

This argument should last all of 1 minute not days.

To any of us that take part in the Karate world at all know size is a non issue.
I'm Not going to go so far as to say a child black belt could take on Tyson..I'm saying an adult Master.

burt
03-18-2012, 03:26 PM
8) wait, what?
.

burt
03-18-2012, 03:29 PM
:spock:

I agree with 98% of what you post. This is the 2%.

As a youth, Cus made Tyson watch hours of boxing tape. His power was formidable BECAUSE he had honed his attack to razors edge. In his prime, he was a force to be reconned with

dred
03-18-2012, 03:35 PM
One lightning fast punch to Tyson's neck or a kick to his nads and I think it's game over.

yeah sure Tyson had some quickness to him, but nothing even close to what Lee was capable of.

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scott free
03-18-2012, 03:38 PM
Tale of the Tape:

Tyson is around 5' 10" and weighed in around 215 during his prime. Lee was 5' 7" and around 145. Lee would give up 75lbs but only a few inches in reach.

Assuming a no-rules fight I think Lee has an 80% chance of winning.

70% probability: Tyson comes at Lee in boxers stance, Lee sidekick to Tyson knee or groin. Fight over.

10% probability: Tyson comes at Lee. Lee's side kick misses entirely. Tyson closes the distance and lands a combination. Fight over.

10% probability: Tyson comes at Lee. Lee side kicks and connects, but fails to deliver shot directly on knee or groin. Lee keeps Tyson at bay with kicks until Tyson bull rushes, Lee knees Tyson or gains control of a limb and breaks it. Fight over.

10% probability: Tyson comes at Lee. Lee side kicks and connects, but fails to deliver shot directly on knee or groin. Lee keeps Tyson at bay with kicks until Tyson bull rushes. Tyson catches Lee with an uppercut. Fight over.


Bottom line, Tyson has to close the distance to overcome Lee's kicking ability. Tyson has no experience defending himself from kicks below his waist.

Exactly, Lee would cripple him with low kicks or use some other technique that Tyson would have no idea at all how to defend against.

listopencil
03-18-2012, 03:47 PM
As a youth, Cus made Tyson watch hours of boxing tape. His power was formidable BECAUSE he had honed his attack to razors edge. In his prime, he was a force to be reconned with

Even when Tyson won quickly he waited to get that one power punch in. The staggering blow would hurt his opponent so badly that it just wasn't a fair boxing match after that. But Tyson did have to wait to get that one good hit in. Lee would not give him that opportunity. They are from different backgrounds and fought under different rules. In the poll question, I assume "fight" means it's over when one of them is either incapacitated or dead. Each fights in his own style. Tyson would street fight with his upper body, or dirty boxing if you prefer. Bruce Lee would go for damaging attacks that stopped Tyson's ability to continue fighting. It wouldn't even be close. The only question would be if Lee could keep from accidentally killing Tyson.

Valiant
03-18-2012, 04:06 PM
Exactly, Lee would cripple him with low kicks or use some other technique that Tyson would have no idea at all how to defend against.

Balls.. If I have taken a kick to the gut before in a fight and just run through it and hit the guy in the face, then it is no reach that Tyson could take a kick either from a guy 75lbs lighter and do the same.. Tyson took punches from behemoths, his torso from the waist up would be well guarded..

Lee's only hope is a prolonged fight with kicks or choke out if he can get in, but then he is a rag doll if Tyson got his hands on him. Tyson could slam him.

All I keep hearing is about is Lee's mythical abilities.. He never fought anyone state side that was known, the ones he did fight have different stories about the outcomes, length of the fights and so on..


Then add the fact, that in all sports even mma every generation keeps getting better, faster and stronger.. But yet here is Bruce Lee, he is untouchable and everyone would lose to him.. It equates to my dad is tougher then yours when trying to talk about the guy.. Facts be damn.

BigCatDaddy
03-18-2012, 04:16 PM
Bruce Lee was about 140lbs.

Do you realize how small that is?!?!? LMAO

I think I weighed more than that in 6th grade.

Do you know how badly a 140lb man would whip your ass?

listopencil
03-18-2012, 04:16 PM
Balls.. If I have taken a kick to the gut before in a fight and just run through it and hit the guy in the face, then it is no reach that Tyson could take a kick either from a guy 75lbs lighter and do the same.. Tyson took punches from behemoths, his torso from the waist up would be well guarded..

Lee's only hope is a prolonged fight with kicks or choke out if he can get in, but then he is a rag doll if Tyson got his hands on him. Tyson could slam him.

All I keep hearing is about is Lee's mythical abilities.. He never fought anyone state side that was known, the ones he did fight have different stories about the outcomes, length of the fights and so on..


Then add the fact, that in all sports even mma every generation keeps getting better, faster and stronger.. But yet here is Bruce Lee, he is untouchable and everyone would lose to him.. It equates to my dad is tougher then yours when trying to talk about the guy.. Facts be damn.

I'm going to tell zombie Bruce Lee you said that. You are in for a world of shit my friend.

Buck
03-18-2012, 04:21 PM
Are they fighting in a Boxing Ring or an open space?

Start Croyle
03-18-2012, 04:21 PM
This is a topic I have been thinking about a lot lately -- Boxing vs martial arts!

First, you have to consider chumps vs chumps. A fight between boxing chumps and martial arts chumps is much closer than you might think. I'm talking about guys who just practice on weekends or for an hour a day. Most, including myself until a few weeks ago, would believe that martial arts would be superior. But actually, people trained in karate, wrestling, etc do not practice fighting the same way as boxers do. They practice techniques and moves endlessly, but the sparring is not the same. They do not really fight, they just practice techniques on each other! With boxing though, you really are fighting when you spar. Boxers are used to taking tough hits. It's a big part of the training to be able to endure hard blows and remain standing.

Now look at this video -- It is no-name boxers fighting no-name karate students. The karate guys look pathetic and weak!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNxaNAm_fWQ

Professional/master level is another story! I mean guys who live on this stuff. Guys who train 7 days a week like a full time job, have a team of trainers and stuff to guide them, prepare extremely healthy food, etc. Think about where the training effort goes: So much of what boxers do relates to endurance and conditioning. Mike Tyson used two hours of cardio 7 days a week! That's some hardcore training, but useless in a sport like MMA where the fight is usually over in like 3 minutes! You are much better off to spend your time on fighting/technique practice.

As far as actual fighting style, I think that boxing itself is a lot more viable than people think. I have a found a bunch more videos of even pro-am boxers beating martial artists in the ring. The kicks are not as powerful as people think. However, it does appear that wrestling and grappling techniques truly are the top of the heap. I am not a big MMA follower, but I believe that grappling has proven to be the dominating/essential technique in that sport as well? As much of a fanboy as I am, I don't think even a GOAT boxer like Tyson would be able to beat a grappling expert like Gokor Chivichyan.

But what about Bruce Lee? He has tons of hype and legend on his side. But how powerful was he really? How much would the height and weight disadvantage count for?
I think saying stuff about how Bruce Lee would break Mike Tyson's bones in 5 seconds, or that Bruce Lee wouldn't even get hit is really silly!

Ultimately I have to go with Tyson. The strength, height and weight counts for a lot! The advantages of Bruce Lee are real but greatly exaggerated!

Bwana
03-18-2012, 04:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNxaNAm_fWQ



I take it they were not allowed to kick the legs, nads or use elbows.

Here is another video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDjE4BywrE4

BWillie
03-18-2012, 04:37 PM
People that think a 250 lbs Mike Tyson would lose in a fight to a 140 lbs Bruce Lee are off their rockers. There's a reason why there are weight divisions in mma, boxing etc. The worst heavy weight would beat the living piss out of Floyd Mayweather. People seem to discount the physics of mass by a large degree

Setsuna
03-18-2012, 04:38 PM
Lordy, the way people talk about Bruce Lee, you'd think he was one of the X-Men. In reality, Bruce Lee was not an X-Man, he was an actor....and an expert martial artist who just so happened to introduce his collectively learned style of martial arts to Western culture and attain "mythical" status as a result. Many Chinamen since Bruce have probably perfected his own style of martial arts to a higher level than Bruce himself. None of these Chinamen could take on ol' Dederick Tatum aka Mike Tyson. If there were no Bruce Lee, people may actually make outrageous claims like Jet Li or Jackie Chan could beat Tyson's (_l_). Hopefully nobody thinks that, or else I will just assume that this board has not GONE full retard, but IS full retard.

Mike Tyson was the best ever. He was the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there's ever been. There's no one can stop him. Bruce Lee is a conquerer? No, Mike is Alexander, he's no Alexander. He's the best ever! There's never been anybody as ruthless! He's Sonny Liston, he's Jack Dempsey. There's no one like him. He's from their cloth. There is no one who can match him. His style is impetuous, his defense is impregnable, and he's just ferocious. He wants Bruce Lee's heart! He will eat Bruce Lee's children (Mike Tyson...the necrophiliac)! Praise be to Allah!

If you want to go that route. Ip Man could beat the shit out of Tyson. You happy now bitch?

Valiant
03-18-2012, 04:44 PM
I'm going to tell zombie Bruce Lee you said that. You are in for a world of shit my friend.

Okay, zombie bruce lee would win against anyone on the planet except for zombie hulk..

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Valiant
03-18-2012, 04:58 PM
Lee vs. Sugar Ray Leonard would be a better topic.. And I think Lee would win as his kicks would mean more against Leonard then they would Tyson..

listopencil
03-18-2012, 05:04 PM
Okay, zombie bruce lee would win against anyone on the planet except for zombie hulk..

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listopencil
03-18-2012, 05:08 PM
Ninjas>Pirates

rico
03-18-2012, 06:29 PM
a few points of contention...

1) instead of saying 'ass' or 'butt,' you go to the trouble to type "(_|_)" ...this is completely retarded.

2) haven't heard about whether tyson had any grappling/wrestling training. it's highly unlikely, though, given his upbringing/background. he only got into boxing after being sent to juvenile detention/ boy's school. this part of his life is well documented, with NO mention of 'grappling/wrestling' training.

3) your avatar is retarded.

4) you are retarded.

5) this thread is offensive to all of mankind, second only in scope to the holocaust. you should be ashamed of yourself.

6) sex with your mother > brady quinn > matt cassel > sex with your sister > this thread > your retarded use of (_|_) > you.

7) Die in an aidsfire you cocksucking maggot piece of shit, drink a gallon of antifreeze while gargling your father's testicles. I am a draftabulator and the smartest person on the ****ing planet you piece of assnugget rabes mouth-breathing shit.

8) wait, what?

8.) Wait, what? Wait....what? Is that your way of adding a metaphorical exclamation point to your "few points of contention" or are you implying that I wouldn't have anything to rebut with? If this is the case, don't give yourself too much credit, dudely.... because it's not deserved.

1.) I see your point. It is pretty juvenile. In fact, that's something I used back in the days when I used to chat on MSN Messenger...as a juvenile. However, when I think something so pointless is stupid, I usually just ignore it. The fact that you went through the trouble of typing a complete sentence expressing your disdain regarding my use of the (_l_) opposed to simply spelling out the words; "butt" or "ass" seems inadvertently contradictory. Oh, the irony.

2.) I have mentioned on many occasions throughout this thread that I can not find a reference to this and that there is a good chance that it could have been simply hearsay. With that said, this point has already been acknowledged...by me. You didn't have to re-acknowledge.

3.) No way, yo! My avatar is sweet! That is a nice fish!!! :thumb: Sarcasm aside though, you are not exactly in a position to be calling out others for having dumb avatars. When I originally started surfing these boards, the first time I ever saw your avatar, I thought to myself, "wow that is a stupid avatar for a football message board." I admittedly don't know what it is though. What is it, Puppet Master or something? Whatever it is, I guarantee that I think your avatar is every bit as retarded as you think mine is.

4.) Likewise.

5.) I fail to recognize how this thread is offensive to all of mankind, 2nd in scope to the Holocaust. While the results are lopsided (and indicates glaring amounts of stupidity regarding this topic), debate has taken place. If you jumped to this conclusion simply because you think Tyson wouldn't stand a chance of beating Bruce Lee in a fight, then the roles should be reversed in that statement. You should be ashamed of yourself.

6.) Brady Quinn > Your mis-spelling of the word "rabies," > Your inadvertent contradictions > Your avatar > The sex you probably have with your mother > The sex you probably have with your sister > You > Tyler Palko/Matt Cassel.... I can't lie or even joke around about Matt Cassel/Tyler Palko being better than anyone....you are better than them.

7.) "Die in an AIDS fire..." Wow that's original. I don't think I've EVER read that line being used in the CP message boards. If CP gave out plaques for "Posts of the Year," that line would be a shoe-in for Most Original. "I am a draftabulator and the smartest person on the ****ing planet you piece of assnugget rabes mouth-breathing shit......" I was somewhat expecting you conclude this statement with "There is no one who can match me. My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart! I want to eat your children! Praise be to Allah!" It would have fit right in there. Are you sure you don't think Tyson would win this fight? Are you, at the least... a Tyson fan? Your dialogue seems to be somewhat similar to his.

Wow, you come off as a tough guy (or girl)? Ya know, I think you could probably beat Hollywood Bruce Lee's (_l_). :thumb:

threebag02
03-18-2012, 06:37 PM
Well that just ****ing does it

8===>~~~~

Halfcan
03-18-2012, 06:40 PM
lol cant believe anyone said tyson-LOL\\

Bruce would destroy him= twice as fast with his hands and 100 times with feet-plus he had ground game.

Halfcan
03-18-2012, 06:45 PM
Tyson padded his record with a bunch of nobodys and Lost to Buster Douglas-LOL If BD can kick his ass=people dpont think BL could=LOL

rico
03-18-2012, 06:46 PM
lol cant believe anyone said tyson-LOL\\

Bruce would destroy him= twice as fast with his hands and 100 times with feet-plus he had ground game.

Yeah I know, right!??! Bruce Lee especially impressed me when he beat the shiz out of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in The Game of Death!!! Kareem is HUGE, and Bruce Lee TOOK HIM OUT!!! Bruce Lee is hands down the toughest son-o-biznatch EVER!!!

rico
03-18-2012, 06:47 PM
Tyson padded his record with a bunch of nobodys and Lost to Buster Douglas-LOL If BD can kick his ass=people dpont think BL could=LOL

People always sell Douglas short, which I can understand given some of his other bouts. BUT, I thought Douglas was top-notch in that particular fight, while Tyson came out seemingly distracted or over-confident. Douglas in that fight though, was legit.

threebag02
03-18-2012, 06:58 PM
Bruce Lee would fuck Tyson's shit up. Pick him apart, cripple him then go in for the kill.

rico
01-29-2014, 03:14 AM
A lot of you are the fuck-tardiest of all the fuck-tardies.


A couple few of you knew and presumably still know wussup.

Rausch
01-29-2014, 03:22 AM
Ninjas>Pirates

Ninjas don't get scurvy...

Rausch
01-29-2014, 03:25 AM
A couple few of you knew and presumably still know wussup.

One eyebrow...

rico
01-29-2014, 04:33 AM
Tyson is rumored to have a wrestling background..... dude the size differential....66.6% of CP is fucking retarded regarding this matter. Seriously...if you've ever been duped by Hollywood, it's been by Bruce Lee.

pr_capone
01-29-2014, 04:38 AM
Tyson is rumored to have a wrestling background..... dude the size differential....66.6% of CP is ****ing retarded regarding this matter. Seriously...if you've ever been duped by Hollywood, it's been by Bruce Lee.

http://i.imgur.com/g1JV8ox.gif

rico
01-29-2014, 04:49 AM
http://i.imgur.com/g1JV8ox.gif

Dude....

A lot of you guys played with your Ninja Turtle/Ghostbuster/GI Joe figurines for way too long.
....Dude, no way....

Tyson would KILL Hollywood Brutus McLeekinhispants. (If given the chance).

JohnnyV13
01-29-2014, 04:52 AM
If the fight was barehanded, in a closed area, Tyson's speed, size, and power would prevail.

If there were weapons---even improvised weapons---available, Lee kills him (literally). Once weapons come into play, experience and speed now become the most important factors over size.

LoneWolf
01-29-2014, 04:55 AM
Tyson is rumored to have a wrestling background..... dude the size differential....66.6% of CP is ****ing retarded regarding this matter. Seriously...if you've ever been duped by Hollywood, it's been by Bruce Lee.

The rumor about Tyson's wrestling background was started by you. Size differential doesn't make a huge difference if you are as fast as Bruce Lee, have his sense of balance, and understand how to use angles and leverage like Bruce did.

You should really do some research on Bruce Lee before you start calling the vast majority of this board fucking retarded. He wasn't some Hollywood pretty boy who was made to look like a good fighter. He was a martial arts master and was tested many times in street fights. He just happened to enjoy making movies and used his martial arts skills to carve out a career in the business.

rico
01-29-2014, 05:03 AM
The rumor about Tyson's wrestling background was started by you. Size differential doesn't make a huge difference if you are as fast as Bruce Lee, have his sense of balance, and understand how to use angles and leverage like Bruce did.

You should really do some research on Bruce Lee before you start calling the vast majority of this board ****ing retarded. He wasn't some Hollywood pretty boy who was made to look like a good fighter. He was a martial arts master and was tested many times in street fights. He just happened to enjoy making movies and used his martial arts skills to carve out a career in the business.

I've done my research....not much to Bruce Lee's repertoire in terms of accomplishments....an ok Asian actor though....pretty good, actually.

For fucks sake, some of you literally believe BL would defeat Iron MT in a fight.....

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Guru
01-29-2014, 05:03 AM
A lot of you are the ****-tardiest of all the ****-tardies.


A couple few of you knew and presumably still know wussup.

Someone revoke his thread bumping abilities.

rico
01-29-2014, 05:09 AM
The rumor about Tyson's wrestling background was started by you. Size differential doesn't make a huge difference if you are as fast as Bruce Lee, have his sense of balance, and understand how to use angles and leverage like Bruce did.

You should really do some research on Bruce Lee before you start calling the vast majority of this board ****ing retarded. He wasn't some Hollywood pretty boy who was made to look like a good fighter. He was a martial arts master and was tested many times in street fights. He just happened to enjoy making movies and used his martial arts skills to carve out a career in the business.

I've done research....Lee has beaten Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. There are just a couple RUMORED fights participated in and did well in. Bruce Lee = Hollywood. And bad at it...shit, he wasn't even able to teach his son to succeed in the biz til where he could survive past age 20-whatever.

Tyson would kill him....literally.

Rausch
01-29-2014, 05:10 AM
Tyson would KILL Hollywood Brutus McLeekinhispants. (If given the chance).

Tyson got OWNED by an over the hill Holyfield in their FIRST fight.

He was then clubbed by a Brit with no wind or punching power nearly to death. Lewis beat him like Ali beat Floyd...

rico
01-29-2014, 05:11 AM
You guys seriously think Bruce Lee would beat Mike Tyson's ass. Mmmkay.....from now on, I will post with more confidence.

pr_capone
01-29-2014, 05:12 AM
You guys seriously think Bruce Lee would beat Mike Tyson's ass. Mmmkay.....from now on, I will post with more confidence.

You've been holding back?

rico
01-29-2014, 05:13 AM
Tyson got OWNED by an over the hill Holyfield in their FIRST fight.

He was then clubbed by a Brit with no wind or punching power nearly to death. Lewis beat him like Ali beat Floyd...

Yup... and I loved it. Holyfield would kick Lee's ass and Lewis would do so even worse. I never claimed to be a Tyson fan.

rico
01-29-2014, 05:15 AM
You've been holding back?

Yes. tl;dr

tl;dr

tl;dr

I can go for miles, homeslice-kateer.

rico
01-29-2014, 05:22 AM
Someone revoke his thread bumping abilities.

Pot calling the kettle a freaking pistachio.

Rausch
01-29-2014, 05:27 AM
Yup... and I loved it. Holyfield would kick Lee's ass and Lewis would do so even worse.

http://www.ayola.com/aweb/a/wait-what.jpg

rico
01-29-2014, 05:33 AM
http://www.ayola.com/aweb/a/wait-what.jpg

Jeez, you get a free pass from bannabatation, but I don't care....I like you...but dammmmn......dude.

Bruce Lee wouldn't be shit in today's MMA world unless he perfected his own shit....which he wouldn't...because he just....acts....and dies....

Rausch
01-29-2014, 05:35 AM
Bruce Lee wouldn't be shit in today's MMA world unless he perfected his own shit....which he wouldn't...because he just....acts....and dies....

Ok...

TheUte
01-29-2014, 05:39 AM
Depends, is it the Tyson with Cus D'Amato or post. When Cus was around Tyson probably wins. People forget how really good he was at 19.

rico
01-29-2014, 05:39 AM
Ok...

Yup.

Mankind Mick Foley AKA Cactus Jack is a way bigger bad ass than Bruce Lee.

In 1/100th of the stunts dumpy-pants Mick Foley would complete with grace....Bruce Lee would do so as well, but he would die. He's a wussy.

Rausch
01-29-2014, 05:41 AM
Yup.

Mankind Mick Foley AKA Cactus Jack is a way bigger bad ass than Bruce Lee.

In 1/100th of the stunts dumpy-pants Mick Foley would complete with grace....Bruce Lee would do so as well, but he would die. He's a wussy.

I don't know, I think I still have to go with Zombie Hulk...

rico
01-29-2014, 05:42 AM
Depends, is it the Tyson with Cus D'Amato or post. When Cus was around Tyson probably wins. People forget how really good he was at 19.

Either-or, but Tyson with Cus, preferably.

rico
01-29-2014, 05:44 AM
I don't know, I think I still have to go with Zombie Hulk...

Who is Zombie-Hulk, Rausch-slice???

WhiteWhale
01-29-2014, 05:47 AM
If Bruce Lee at his peak fought Mike Tyson in his prime he would die. Again.

Bruce Lee was not a professional fighter. He was an actor from an acting family that popularized eastern martial arts (boxing IS a martial art btw) in the west via his movies. He then created his own 'style' which was basically him incorporating a bunch of boxing, because boxing is bad ass dangerous.

The myth astounds me, but I'm a fan of Lee because of his contribution to the culture.

Rausch
01-29-2014, 05:50 AM
Who is Zombie-Hulk, Rausch-slice???

http://themoriartyofgore.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/zombie-hulk.png?w=640&h=350

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Marvel_Zombies_hardcover.jpg

rico
01-29-2014, 05:52 AM
If Bruce Lee at his peak fought Mike Tyson in his prime he would die. Again.

Bruce Lee was not a professional fighter. He was an actor from an acting family that popularized eastern martial arts (boxing IS a martial art btw) in the west via his movies.

The myth astounds me, but I'm a fan of Lee.

Yup... Bruce Lee would die twice...and Sonny Liston has only died once and Mike Tyson hasn't died yet....so Lee has 2 dies and Tyson/Liston has 1.

rico
01-29-2014, 05:53 AM
http://themoriartyofgore.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/zombie-hulk.png?w=640&h=350

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Marvel_Zombies_hardcover.jpg

Oh.

WhiteWhale
01-29-2014, 05:55 AM
The rumor about Tyson's wrestling background was started by you. Size differential doesn't make a huge difference if you are as fast as Bruce Lee, have his sense of balance, and understand how to use angles and leverage like Bruce did.

You should really do some research on Bruce Lee before you start calling the vast majority of this board ****ing retarded. He wasn't some Hollywood pretty boy who was made to look like a good fighter. He was a martial arts master and was tested many times in street fights. He just happened to enjoy making movies and used his martial arts skills to carve out a career in the business.

Bruce Lee was an actor since childhood. Obviously he wasn't a 'hollywood' pretty boy, because he made most of his films in China.

Boxing > Wing Chun

WhiteWhale
01-29-2014, 05:56 AM
Yup... Bruce Lee would die twice...and Sonny Liston has only died once and Mike Tyson hasn't died yet....so Lee has 2 dies and Tyson/Liston has 1.

Heh, Liston.

There's a guy who would kill BOTH of them.

Rausch
01-29-2014, 05:56 AM
Yup... Bruce Lee would die twice...and Sonny Liston has only died once and Mike Tyson hasn't died yet....so Lee has 2 dies and Tyson/Liston has 1.

But Liston threw fights. Eh, I just can't honestly look at him in this one.

Rausch
01-29-2014, 05:56 AM
Heh, Liston.

There's a guy who would kill BOTH of them.

:facepalm:

WhiteWhale
01-29-2014, 05:57 AM
I posted before reading this thread...

You guys are hilarious.

rico
01-29-2014, 05:59 AM
Dude, Liston was then shit...I imagine (from what is told to me by reliable sources).

Three7s
01-29-2014, 06:00 AM
You guys seriously think Bruce Lee would beat Mike Tyson's ass. Mmmkay.....from now on, I will post with more confidence.
Most of us think he'd beat Mike Tyson because Bruce Lee was the most skilled martial artist in the world at his prime. Tyson is a great boxer, but there's no way he'd be able to handle what Lee would throw at him.

WhiteWhale
01-29-2014, 06:01 AM
Most of us think he'd beat Mike Tyson because Bruce Lee was the most skilled martial artist in the world at his prime. Tyson is a great boxer, but there's no way he'd be able to handle what Lee would throw at him.

What makes you think Bruce Lee was even the best Wing Chun guy, let alone the best in the entire world?

I mean seriously what is this all based on? He was in movies and taught it to famous people?

rico
01-29-2014, 06:02 AM
I posted before reading this thread...

You guys are hilarious.

Hahahaha....hahahaha.....Why????


http://theramblingman.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/tommy-boy.jpg

Rausch
01-29-2014, 06:04 AM
Hahahaha....hahahaha.....Why????


http://theramblingman.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/tommy-boy.jpg

I resemble-ment that...

rico
01-29-2014, 06:07 AM
What makes you think Bruce Lee was even the best Wing Chun guy, let alone the best in the entire world?

I mean seriously what is this all based on? He was in movies and taught it to famous people?

BOOM shaka-laka cus' the shaka-laka goes BOOM. Lee was a talented Hollywood guy...had a lot of charisma...shit, his son did too...if it weren't for The Crow, Brandon Lee would still be kickin.' The Crow is an awesome movie....and Brandon Lee aint kickin.' Neither is his daddy-McPoppypants....because they are both dead, yo.

htismaqe
01-29-2014, 06:26 AM
What makes you think Bruce Lee was even the best Wing Chun guy, let alone the best in the entire world?

I mean seriously what is this all based on? He was in movies and taught it to famous people?

He was no Chuck Norris, that's for sure.

Rausch
01-29-2014, 06:27 AM
...if it weren't for The Crow, Brandon Lee would still be kickin.'

Careful there...

Rudy lost the toss
01-29-2014, 06:41 AM
MMA is poop

Tyson

rico
01-29-2014, 06:45 AM
He was no Chuck Norris, that's for sure.

I would put Lee mehhhh....about the same slot as I would put Norris and.......KAREEM ABDULLAH-JABBAR-KcDERKA-DERKAPANTS!!!!!!

fUCK, I AM WASTED.

rico
01-29-2014, 06:50 AM
Careful there...

Oh shit....sorry, y'alls.....did Brandon Lee.....not die?????

Well he did...after his father.

I don't care whether he did or didn't.... I love the soundtrack. LOVE YOU, TRENT!!!! That band, Medicine, was cool as hell. Trent's cover of Joy Division's Dead Souls was cool too.

FRCDFED
01-29-2014, 06:58 AM
I don't really think Tyson cared much for the rules. If he could have broken every one of them and gotten away with every one of them, he would have broken them....just as he would break every bone in Bruce Lee's body if those two were to fight.

This X infinity! Lee was a great martial artist but keep in mind, the side of Bruce Lee that was seen by the public was ACTING!

htismaqe
01-29-2014, 07:04 AM
I would put Lee mehhhh....about the same slot as I would put Norris and.......KAREEM ABDULLAH-JABBAR-KcDERKA-DERKAPANTS!!!!!!

fUCK, I AM WASTED.

ROFL

Dayze
01-29-2014, 07:14 AM
one fight I would like to see is Foreman in his prime against Tyson. Both have devastating punches.

as far as a fight between them, IMO
Pros for Foreman - A Jab that was almost as strong as most fighters hooks. His body punches could kill a man. Long Jab. Tough jaw.
Cons for Foreman - Tall against Tyson. Slower head movement

Pros for Tike Myson - Short, quick hooks. Deadly uppercuts. quick head movement. Being short?
Cons for Tike Myson - Being short? Short jabs, could be harder to get inside of Foreman. Has Tyson ever been hit by a huge punch? (not being sarcastic, just trying to remember one).

I would LOVE to see that fight.

J Diddy
01-29-2014, 07:15 AM
Buster Douglas the whole thing.

blaise
01-29-2014, 07:19 AM
Bruce Lee could not knock out Mike Tyson. You ever watch a boxing match with guys the size of Bruce Lee? They land like 150 punches to the face and there's no K.O. most of the time.
And one Tyson punch basically anywhere on Lee's body would inflict serious pain.

htismaqe
01-29-2014, 07:25 AM
one fight I would like to see is Foreman in his prime against Tyson. Both have devastating punches.

as far as a fight between them, IMO
Pros for Foreman - A Jab that was almost as strong as most fighters hooks. His body punches could kill a man. Long Jab. Tough jaw.
Cons for Foreman - Tall against Tyson. Slower head movement

Pros for Tike Myson - Short, quick hooks. Deadly uppercuts. quick head movement. Being short?
Cons for Tike Myson - Being short? Short jabs, could be harder to get inside of Foreman. Has Tyson ever been hit by a huge punch? (not being sarcastic, just trying to remember one).

I would LOVE to see that fight.

Being short was a BIG advantage for Tyson. His height (and arm length) were directly proportional to the short powerful punches he threw. He always had upward leverage because everybody was taller than he was.

As for whether or not Tyson ever took a huge punch, watch the last few rounds of the Buster Douglas fight. He took more than 1 in that fight alone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9thIYw6yirY

VAChief
01-29-2014, 07:31 AM
I'm sure you probably came to this conclusion after watching Enter the Dragon opposed to actually watching him participate in a competitive professional fight. Brilliant.

When I was about 6 years old I had just finished watching one of those cheesy Elvis Presley movies where he beats the crap out of everyone and I asked my dad..."Is Elvis the toughest guy in the world." I remember my dad looking at me like WTF?

Dayze
01-29-2014, 07:34 AM
yeah, I was leaning towards it being an asset. tons of torque in those punches. his upper cuts were probably the most effective use I've seen of that punch by any fighter that I can remember.

Cochise
01-29-2014, 07:34 AM
Gaz knows tai-bo

rico
01-29-2014, 07:57 AM
This X infinity! Lee was a great martial artist but keep in mind, the side of Bruce Lee that was seen by the public was ACTING!

GOSH, I wrote that????!?!?!?! THIS times infinity. This is probably a "fyp" but STILL.

Btw, I just woke up to my my wife throwing a bunch of cold water in my face (which I'm allergic to...don't believe me? Try me @ http://ricoswaff.com/blog1/?p=1219 .... I literally do have cold urticarial and have no idea what to do about it (other than self-deprecrecate myself).

rico
01-29-2014, 07:58 AM
yeah, I was leaning towards it being an asset. tons of torque in those punches. his upper cuts were probably the most effective use I've seen of that punch by any fighter that I can remember.

Zeh Spinks doesn't stinx, home-diddly.

rico
01-29-2014, 08:01 AM
When I was about 6 years old I had just finished watching one of those cheesy Elvis Presley movies where he beats the crap out of everyone and I asked my dad..."Is Elvis the toughest guy in the world." I remember my dad looking at me like WTF?

I LOVE YOU!!!!

rico
01-29-2014, 08:06 AM
Buster Douglas the whole thing.

Dude, I've said it a buncha times, and I'll continue to spew it....Buster Douglas fought his ass off vs. Tyson. Tyson did not beat Tyson...Douglas beat Tyson. He did it because of intangibles, mostly attributed to losing his mama around that time (can't imagine). ;( Buster Douglas is a good boxer...he proved that to me in that Tyson vs. Douglas match.

BigChiefTablet
01-29-2014, 08:08 AM
Marv in Sin City: "Let's see you hop around now."

rico
01-29-2014, 08:16 AM
Marv in Sin City: "Let's see you hop around now."

Marv Albert? Marv Levy?

FUCK.....

I'm stuck.

Halfcan
01-29-2014, 08:19 AM
Bruce Lee could not knock out Mike Tyson. You ever watch a boxing match with guys the size of Bruce Lee? They land like 150 punches to the face and there's no K.O. most of the time.
And one Tyson punch basically anywhere on Lee's body would inflict serious pain.

Iron mike would not even be able to land a punch. He was an over rated punk that made his name knocking out has beens.

beach tribe
01-29-2014, 08:21 AM
lol cant believe anyone said tyson-LOL\\

Bruce would destroy him= twice as fast with his hands and 100 times with feet-plus he had ground game.

Wait.

You think it would be a good idead to go ground game against a guy who is 80 pounds bigger than you.

If Tyson ever gets that close long enough to actually go to the ground its game over.

I am a believer in Lees mystical abilities too, but somewhere down the line you gotta face reality. Tysons punches could not be blocked or absorbed by Lee.

Lee could win by snapping tysons knee, but thats it.