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Chocolate Hog
03-23-2012, 06:48 AM
Has you cat ever had a UTI? My cat just got one and this has turned out to be a very costly out of pocket expense (1,000 dollars).

If so what did you feed your cat after? This vet is trying to push this special food that you can only get at the vet. It's 33 bucks a bag (too much IMO).





Thanks

tiptap
03-23-2012, 06:51 AM
Male or female?

Chocolate Hog
03-23-2012, 06:54 AM
Male

tiptap
03-23-2012, 06:54 AM
Ascorbic Acid, vitamin C helps acidify urine and helps with Male cats in particular. It is an old palliative.

Chocolate Hog
03-23-2012, 06:54 AM
Would a wet food be more helpful?

tiptap
03-23-2012, 06:59 AM
Lots of water. Cats need protein but proteins themselves are not at all the same in how they affect kidney and urine flow so it isn't that simple.

bevischief
03-23-2012, 07:01 AM
Have you check the internet for the food?

blaise
03-23-2012, 07:01 AM
$1,000 for a cat? Your cat is lucky it has you for an owner.

Amnorix
03-23-2012, 07:04 AM
Lots of water. Cats need protein but proteins themselves are not at all the same in how they affect kidney and urine flow so it isn't that simple.

Your'e right, but some cats aren't big fans of drinking water though.

If your cat is still drinking milk, see about trying to get it to switch to water. Water is definitely a key. But more fluids is better than less fluids, for the most part.

Radar Chief
03-23-2012, 07:11 AM
9 posts in and Im the first with Antifreeze!!!

Saulbadguy
03-23-2012, 07:12 AM
What brand of food is it?

Hoover
03-23-2012, 07:12 AM
Would a wet food be more helpful?
Yes.

I feed my cat a raw all meat diet.

I feed him Chicken and Rabbit

http://www.naturesvariety.com/InstinctRaw/cat

Saulbadguy
03-23-2012, 07:14 AM
It also seems funny that you will pay $1,000 to save the cat but won't pay $33 for a bag of food.

Saulbadguy
03-23-2012, 07:14 AM
Yes.

I feed my cat a raw all meat diet.

I feed him Chicken and Rabbit

http://www.naturesvariety.com/InstinctRaw/cat

Bad for their teeth if that's all you feed them.

Saulbadguy
03-23-2012, 07:14 AM
Your'e right, but some cats aren't big fans of drinking water though.

If your cat is still drinking milk, see about trying to get it to switch to water. Water is definitely a key. But more fluids is better than less fluids, for the most part.

I don't think cats should drink milk at all.

Chocolate Hog
03-23-2012, 07:16 AM
What brand of food is it?

The stuff the vet wanted to sell me? I'll have to double check I just remember the price was outrageous.

luv
03-23-2012, 07:18 AM
I don't think cats should drink milk at all.

I agree with this actually.

Bwana
03-23-2012, 07:19 AM
Yes.

I feed my cat a raw all meat diet.

I feed him Chicken and Rabbit

http://www.naturesvariety.com/InstinctRaw/cat

Chicken and Rabbit? What kind of cat do you own Hoover, a mountain lion?

http://naturalunseenhazards.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/mtnlionutahwildlife1.jpg

memyselfI
03-23-2012, 07:19 AM
No, my cats have not had UTIs but I had a cat with kidney disease and worked in a vets office long enough to know that the food is a huge issue.

Some things you can try are:

Purchasing a cat drinking fountain. For some reason cats love the water in a fountain and will drink MORE. I've seen this work with many cats who are not water drinkers. Including my own. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00063446M/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0050ICJ8S&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=13N5F8H6C6V14EB1D5FM

Check the internet for food. DO NOT BUY FROM VET'S OFFICE. Their markup is outrageous. Do an internet search for the food or alternatives. Sometimes you can find something close in content but much cheaper.


What you are trying to avoid is high protein foods which are harder on cat kidneys. Wet food is better than dry if the cat isn't drinking enough water.

Read up on holistic and other types of education regarding UTIs in cats. https://www.google.com/search?q=cats+urinary+tract+infection+tips&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

luv
03-23-2012, 07:20 AM
Your'e right, but some cats aren't big fans of drinking water though.

If your cat is still drinking milk, see about trying to get it to switch to water. Water is definitely a key. But more fluids is better than less fluids, for the most part.

My cat goes through tons of water, while my dad's cats won't go near it.

Chocolate Hog
03-23-2012, 07:20 AM
It also seems funny that you will pay $1,000 to save the cat but won't pay $33 for a bag of food.

Well it's 33 bucks every 2 weeks for the rest of his life. If there are other cheaper alternatives I'd like to explore them.

Bwana
03-23-2012, 07:21 AM
The stuff the vet wanted to sell me? I'll have to double check I just remember the price was outrageous.

Vets are aways proud of their food. I have always found the same quality, for much less at Pet Smart. You may want to give them a shot.

Saulbadguy
03-23-2012, 07:22 AM
Well it's 33 bucks every 2 weeks for the rest of his life. If there are other cheaper alternatives I'd like to explore them.

haha yeah, fuck that.

FWIW I buy Blue Buffalo indoor health cat food. I've had good luck with their product. The cats love it, hell we even feed it to our hedgehog and she loves it. They also never, ever throw up anymore. They used to throw up at least once a week or so feeding Purina One.

Chocolate Hog
03-23-2012, 07:24 AM
That's interesting I feed my cats Purina one as well and the one throws that up sometimes. A hedgehog? ROFL

Saulbadguy
03-23-2012, 07:25 AM
That's interesting I feed my cats Purina one as well and the one throws that up sometimes. A hedgehog? ROFL

yeah, haha, cute little critter. It's my wifes pet. It doesn't like the regular "hedgehog food" - just likes the blue buffalo cat food.

WV
03-23-2012, 07:26 AM
We had a cat that had frequent problems with UTI's and crystals in his Urine and we used this. It worked really well for us.

http://www.purinaone.com/pirf/cm2/upload/780224BF-A773-4A36-A1BF-0F028904287E/targeted_urinary_tract_main.jpg

Hoover
03-23-2012, 07:40 AM
Chicken and Rabbit? What kind of cat do you own Hoover, a mountain lion?

http://naturalunseenhazards.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/mtnlionutahwildlife1.jpg
Thats my boy!

As for the teeth issue, we do make sure they are checked and they have been cleaned.

My choice was either the dude would die pretty young, he had a kidney issue too, or he would live a normal life with bad teeth. We took the later.

Hoover
03-23-2012, 07:42 AM
We feed our dogs a holistic diet too.

I have actually started a pet food business so that I can get this stuff at wholesale.

Radar Chief
03-23-2012, 07:44 AM
Chicken and Rabbit? What kind of cat do you own Hoover, a mountain lion?

http://naturalunseenhazards.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/mtnlionutahwildlife1.jpg

An ocelot named Babou.

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Kyle DeLexus
03-23-2012, 08:20 AM
My cat goes through tons of water, while my dad's cats won't go near it.

My cat loves water. As soon as he hears the water in the bathroom start he runs in there to jump in the shower. He's also turned on one of the bathroom sink faucets and played in that.

gblowfish
03-23-2012, 08:27 AM
Kudos for taking good care of your kitty. They love their people, you know...

Fish
03-23-2012, 08:29 AM
Well it's 33 bucks every 2 weeks for the rest of his life. If there are other cheaper alternatives I'd like to explore them.

You realize that cats are disposable and replaceable right? Sounds like a hunting trip is in order...

Frazod
03-23-2012, 08:40 AM
Vets are aways proud of their food. I have always found the same quality, for much less at Pet Smart. You may want to give them a shot.

Just because the vet's pushing the food doesn't mean it's worth a crap - they get paid to shill for it. Our vet recommends Royal Canin, which is overpriced shit. As is anything from Purina, which is essentially them selling you their industrial waste to feed to your pets. We spend more money on high quality cat food, but the cats eat less of it because it isn't loaded with fillers.

Here's a link to an old thread about pet food. Lots of good information here.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=243311

JoeyChuckles
03-23-2012, 08:49 AM
My cat loves water. As soon as he hears the water in the bathroom start he runs in there to jump in the shower. He's also turned on one of the bathroom sink faucets and played in that.

My cat sits in the sink with the faucet on, and then gets in the shower after it has been turned off.

But he won't drink from the bowl.

mikeyis4dcats.
03-23-2012, 08:51 AM
our cats have had UTIs, and we've never paid anything NEAR $1,000. You got screwed.

He needs antibiotics, lots of water. Feed wet food if he'll eat it, otherwise wet his dry food. Use filtered or spring water, and I have heard the pet fountains are well received.

Rain Man
03-23-2012, 09:49 AM
I wish I could help, but fortunately none of my pets have had these problems. Good luck with it, though.

qabbaan
03-23-2012, 10:04 AM
A thousand bucks? Sorry kitteh time for the rainbow bridge

BCD
03-23-2012, 10:07 AM
Something creepy about single guys with cats...

:)

Nzoner
03-23-2012, 10:11 AM
My cat sits in the sink with the faucet on, and then gets in the shower after it has been turned off.


Mine doesn't like water but the little shit loves taking a nap in my sink and it's usually when I'm needing to get ready.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/393923_371948906154167_100000171810493_1697042_692070226_n.jpg

Fire Me Boy!
03-23-2012, 10:14 AM
The auto-waterers are great for getting kitties to drink. Just don't let 'em run dry.

jeff h
03-23-2012, 10:20 AM
Our male cat had UTI and crystals several years ago. We trust our vet and put him on science diet s/d or something like that. It worked for us. He didn't have another one and it's been over 5 years (probably longer I just can't remember).

cdcox
03-23-2012, 10:25 AM
Our male cat has UT problems. We didn't pay anywhere near that for the vet bill, but we do buy the prescription food from the vet. The wife buys it, so I don't know how expensive it is.

Fire Me Boy!
03-23-2012, 10:26 AM
My parents have a cat that used to get frequent UTIs. Been on Science Diet prescription stuff for years and never had a problem. It's about $35/bag, but that bag should last one cat at least a month, if not two.

Radar Chief
03-23-2012, 12:11 PM
Mine doesn't like water but the little shit loves taking a nap in my sink and it's usually when I'm needing to get ready.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/393923_371948906154167_100000171810493_1697042_692070226_n.jpg

Im not seeing the problem. Turn the water on, hell get out with a practical lesson in GTFO of the sink when you walk in the bathroom.

mikeyis4dcats.
03-23-2012, 12:12 PM
be glad your cat didn't take to pissing IN the bathroom sink like ours did when he had his UTI.

Phobia
03-23-2012, 12:15 PM
I wouldn't pay a vet $1000 unless he was extracting a bullet out of my own body. Any estimate over $30 and a cat is getting a nickel's worth of dirt treatment. I'll pay a little more for a dog but not much.

CHENZ A!
03-23-2012, 12:24 PM
Cats are carnivorous animals, and in the wild would get most of their fluids from their prey. That's why a lot don't like drinking water out of a bowl, it's not natural.

A raw diet is ideal, but not practical for a lot of people. Just make sure your getting grain-free food, and if you can supplement it with wet food(I do like half a can/day).

Chocolate Hog
03-23-2012, 02:44 PM
You realize that cats are disposable and replaceable right? Sounds like a hunting trip is in order...

Funny thing is we got these cats for free a few years ago. He's my little buddy been with my through the roughest part of my life no way I'm getting rid of him.

Chocolate Hog
03-23-2012, 02:46 PM
our cats have had UTIs, and we've never paid anything NEAR $1,000. You got screwed.

He needs antibiotics, lots of water. Feed wet food if he'll eat it, otherwise wet his dry food. Use filtered or spring water, and I have heard the pet fountains are well received.

Do you live in the KC area? If so what vet did you take yours to?

Iowanian
03-23-2012, 03:15 PM
Stop having sexual intercourse with your cat and it will probably have a healthier outlook on life.




No way I'd ever spend $1000 on a cat.....

Talisman
03-23-2012, 05:09 PM
We had a cat that had frequent problems with UTI's and crystals in his Urine and we used this. It worked really well for us.

http://www.purinaone.com/pirf/cm2/upload/780224BF-A773-4A36-A1BF-0F028904287E/targeted_urinary_tract_main.jpg

One of our cats had a UTI problem and we started with the vet recommended stuff. We quickly moved to this stuff due to cost and have had no problems since. We also make sure to give them wet food every day as well since it's the dry food that caused the problem in the first place.

Mr. Laz
03-23-2012, 05:15 PM
Would a wet food be more helpful?
you can add water to wet canned food to get more fluids into them.

got to the point where i can get my cat to eat canned food that looks like oatmeal if i need to get more fluids in him.

alnorth
03-23-2012, 05:15 PM
Your'e right, but some cats aren't big fans of drinking water though.

If your cat is still drinking milk, see about trying to get it to switch to water. Water is definitely a key. But more fluids is better than less fluids, for the most part.

Get one of those drinkwell fountains. Cats aren't a fan of drinking still water, they love drinking running water. If you chased your cat away from a dripping faucet, you should get one of these.

If you also get the little attachment that holds extra water, it'll go for at least 10 days. You also have to take it apart to clean out the fur clogging it up once every couple months or so. Thats easy, takes maybe 5 minutes.

http://www.drinkwellfountain.net/images/drinkwell-platinum-drinking.jpg

Mr. Laz
03-23-2012, 05:19 PM
Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth

Fish
03-23-2012, 05:22 PM
Funny thing is we got these cats for free a few years ago. He's my little buddy been with my through the roughest part of my life no way I'm getting rid of him.

Well there's nothing really wrong with that if you have the expendable income to justify it.

I love my cats like no other. But there's also a point of affordability that I'm not willing to cross.

Mr. Laz
03-23-2012, 05:25 PM
Get one of those drinkwell fountains. Cats aren't a fan of drinking still water, they love drinking running water. If you chased your cat away from a dripping faucet, you should get one of these.

If you also get the little attachment that holds extra water, it'll go for at least 10 days. You also have to take it apart to clean out the fur clogging it up once every couple months or so. Thats easy, takes maybe 5 minutes.

http://www.drinkwellfountain.net/images/drinkwell-platinum-drinking.jpg
be careful ... the drinkwell fountain i bought was a leaky,loud piece of crap.

Fire Me Boy!
03-23-2012, 05:26 PM
Well there's nothing really wrong with that if you have the expendable income to justify it.

I love my cats like no other. But there's also a point of affordability that I'm not willing to cross.

I don't know. It would probably depend on the prognosis. My wife and I nursed one of our cats through feline anorexia (stress induced). We were over $500 in and certainly willing to do more, but the vet finally came back and said we could implant a feeding tube for a while, but that she only had a 10-15 percent chance of survival. The right move was putting her down and ease her suffering. But if she'd have had a good chance of survival, we'd have done it in a heartbeat.

beach tribe
03-23-2012, 05:54 PM
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mdchiefsfan
03-23-2012, 06:25 PM
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Damn it. Was just about to post this. Well played, sir.

memyselfI
03-25-2012, 09:12 AM
I just ordered another fountain as our existing one seems to have bit the dust. Less than $30 for the fountain and a couple of filters shipped. Trust me, it will be the best money you have spent on your cat.

I'm not sure about this brand but it gets really good reviews so we'll give it a shot. I had one similar to the picture posted below before. It was good but expensive.

http://www.amazon.com/Hagen-Design-Drinking-Fountain-Original/dp/B004L4XR3I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332688230&sr=8-1
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Ftc2u%2B0sL._AA300_.jpg


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Mr. Flopnuts
03-25-2012, 10:15 AM
Kudos for taking good care of your kitty. They love their people, you know...

No. I don't know. My dog loves me. I know that. I always thought my cat was plotting my death.

Thaddeus_Eugenia
03-25-2012, 10:29 AM
Has you cat ever had a UTI? My cat just got one and this has turned out to be a very costly out of pocket expense (1,000 dollars).

If so what did you feed your cat after? This vet is trying to push this special food that you can only get at the vet. It's 33 bucks a bag (too much IMO).





Thanks

Will you be purchasing the "Flax Seed" for your feline? I suggest a strong dentastick for after! The LORD will bless thine cat's health, I am sure!

Mr. Flopnuts
03-25-2012, 10:32 AM
Will you be purchasing the "Flax Seed" for your feline? I suggest a strong dentastick for after! The LORD will bless thine cat's health, I am sure!

for the Lord will bless your pussy, and keep it tight lipped when it lays unto you.

Proverbs 16:11

Phobia
03-25-2012, 11:18 AM
Funny thing is we got these cats for free a few years ago. He's my little buddy been with my through the roughest part of my life no way I'm getting rid of him.

The point is, you can't be all tough badass about Hawkeye players on one hand and then come back and admit you're a crazy cat lady on the other. Pick one and run with it. I've always thought of you as a crazy cat lady so I'd suggest that one.