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El Jefe
03-26-2012, 06:25 AM
I know there are a few other KU threads already, but I just figured we could talk about it here. Any other Buckeye fans here on the forum? If not that's ok.

My thoughts on the game:

I don't see us winning this game, we have a good team, but not a great team. If Buford played to his ability it might be a little bit of a different game, but he has been a major let down this year. We have a lot of talent, but we are really young, Sully, Craft, Thomas are all sophmores, Lenzelle, Q, Amir and Thompson are freshman. Another reason I don't see us winning is the fact that Sully has a hard time staying out of foul trouble, and KU has some very athletic bigs, if Sully gets into foul trouble we could be in trouble. We played you guys earlier this year and lost by 15 without Sully.

Your point guard will however be guarded by the best defensive point guard in College Basketball. Aaron Craft is a stud. Anyways, I hope it's a competitive game, and congratulations on beating Carolina, that was a fun game to watch.

DaKCMan AP
03-26-2012, 06:33 AM
Buford is your most talented player, IMO. If he would be assertive and take over games it would open things up for Sullinger and bring your team to its highest potential, IMO.

Rock Chalk.

Fritz88
03-26-2012, 06:34 AM
I am extremely content with what KU has done this year.

Getting to the EE was more than what I had hoped for.

Beating Roy and UNC and getting to the final four is just way too much.

I am like

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Mr_Tomahawk
03-26-2012, 07:04 AM
I agree.

Of course I want to win it all, but I was hoping to make the S16 tops at the beginning of the season.

Beating UNC to get into the FF was great. If we get blown-out by OSU, I will be upset at the moment I am sure. However, I will get over it pretty quickly I feel as I am more than thrilled with a FF this season.

:clap:

HemiEd
03-26-2012, 07:10 AM
The Jayhawks have no chance, your Buckeyes are just way too strong.


Rock Chalk!

chiefzilla1501
03-26-2012, 07:33 AM
Buford is your most talented player, IMO. If he would be assertive and take over games it would open things up for Sullinger and bring your team to its highest potential, IMO.

Rock Chalk.

Eeee. Say what?

Buford sucks. The team is worse off when hes assertive because he gets sloppy. Very interesting matchup in that sullinger should be kept relatively at bay by Either withey or robibson but he will still get his. Deshaim Thomas might be a rough guy matchup wise but i think relaford can do it. Aaron craft is probably one of the better on the ball defenders in the game so i hink taylor will have to be in too of his game. Interesting he one guy osu cant defenders is withey.

Pants
03-26-2012, 08:12 AM
Craft is only a sophomore? Christ.

ohiobronco2
03-26-2012, 08:30 AM
I expect it to be a really good, competitive game. We lost to Kansas by 11 last time without Sullinger (on the road). We game up the last 5 points from the line as well, so it was a fairly competitive game, which was surpising to me because we only shot 38% vs Kansas who shot damn near 60%. Over 50% from 3. Free Throws were about even. Will be fun to see, I can see either team winning.

Dr. Facebook Fever
03-26-2012, 08:44 AM
I don't see us winning this game, we have a good team, but not a great team.

Your reverse mojo will not intimidate us! OSU WILL CRUSH US LIKE A GRAPE!

lcarus
03-26-2012, 08:49 AM
Your reverse mojo will not intimidate us! OSU WILL CRUSH US LIKE A GRAPE!

I'd be SHOCKED if we are even within 10 in the last few minutes. Nope..we have no chance in this one I'm afraid. Already over.

Dr. Facebook Fever
03-26-2012, 08:50 AM
I'd be SHOCKED if we are even within 10 in the last few minutes. Nope..we have no chance in this one I'm afraid. Already over.

I'm not even going to watch since I already know the outcome and it ain't gonna be pretty.

El Jefe
03-26-2012, 09:49 AM
Buford is your most talented player, IMO. If he would be assertive and take over games it would open things up for Sullinger and bring your team to its highest potential, IMO.

Rock Chalk.

I completely agree, but this year has been his worst year ever. He is the 4th ranked scorer in Ohio State History, and if you just started watching the Buckeyes you would never guess that. He has been nothing short of a waste of space this year. Lenzelle Smith Jr. and D. Thomas have been better scoring threats and that's sad, because Buford has a ton of talent.

El Jefe
03-26-2012, 09:52 AM
The Jayhawks have no chance, your Buckeyes are just way too strong.


Rock Chalk!

Don't use your reverse mojo!! The Jayhawks will beat the buckeyes by 14 (srs).

Dr. Facebook Fever
03-26-2012, 09:55 AM
I'm already embarrassed by this game and it's 5 damn days away. Ugh.

El Jefe
03-26-2012, 09:56 AM
Eeee. Say what?

Buford sucks. The team is worse off when hes assertive because he gets sloppy. Very interesting matchup in that sullinger should be kept relatively at bay by Either withey or robibson but he will still get his. Deshaim Thomas might be a rough guy matchup wise but i think relaford can do it. Aaron craft is probably one of the better on the ball defenders in the game so i hink taylor will have to be in too of his game. Interesting he one guy osu cant defenders is withey.

I agree 100% with DaKC, Buford has crazy talent, but something has messed his head up, he is not the player he was the last 3 years. If he would come back to that he would the best scoring threat on the team.

Watching the Syracuse game enraged me, Buford did nothing, but take up space. He should've been on the bench, I don't know whats going on with that kid. D.Thomas is an absolute nightmare matchup because he is a southpaw, that tear drop floater he shoots is dang near impossible to guard. I agree with you on Craft, he is the best defender in the country IMO.

El Jefe
03-26-2012, 09:57 AM
I expect it to be a really good, competitive game. We lost to Kansas by 11 last time without Sullinger (on the road). We game up the last 5 points from the line as well, so it was a fairly competitive game, which was surpising to me because we only shot 38% vs Kansas who shot damn near 60%. Over 50% from 3. Free Throws were about even. Will be fun to see, I can see either team winning.

I wish I could share your enthusiasm, but if Sully gets in foul trouble, and the same old Buford shows up, we are in trouble. We would need Deshawn to put up 40.

chiefs2012
03-26-2012, 09:57 AM
KU rises to the occasion to win by 6.

saphojunkie
03-26-2012, 10:09 AM
It's a really funny situation. Has there ever been a matchup by two teams that were each at one point ranked #2 in the nation, who played each other earlier in the year, and yet...no one has any idea what's going to happen?

The previous matchup can be completely thrown out the window. Neither of these teams even remotely resemble who they were at the time. Buckeyes didn't have their lottery pick on the floor, and the Jayhawks hadn't clicked yet. The light was still not on for Tyshawn or Withey.

I think this is going to be a serious Big 10 street brawl.

Two physically dominating interior players. Sullinger has Trobs on size/weight/strength, and Trobs is by far the better athlete.

Craft is a sick defender, but Tyshawn can stay in front of any guard in the nation.

I think it's a fantastic matchup on both sides, which means it's going to be a great game. While the KU/UNC game became an ACC shootout (even the refs did their best ACC impression, incapable of discerning a charge from a block on EITHER SIDE), this game should be low-scoring, physical, and probably come down to who makes their shots and especially who hits their free throws.

If I'm in Vegas, my instinct is to put this at even money, although I think the line will be skewed, because so many more people will bet on OSU (just the more nationally popular team).

Either way, it's a tremendous credit to both teams that they got this far. Beating Syracuse, the run-away media crush for most of the year is about as good as beating the preseason #1 team with five NBA players

Congrats to both teams. Whoever wins, this season is a raging success for both.

ohiobronco2
03-26-2012, 10:53 AM
I agree 100% with DaKC, Buford has crazy talent, but something has messed his head up, he is not the player he was the last 3 years. If he would come back to that he would the best scoring threat on the team.

Watching the Syracuse game enraged me, Buford did nothing, but take up space. He should've been on the bench, I don't know whats going on with that kid. D.Thomas is an absolute nightmare matchup because he is a southpaw, that tear drop floater he shoots is dang near impossible to guard. I agree with you on Craft, he is the best defender in the country IMO.

No John Diebler on the team. A lack of a true/consistent 3 point shooter really hurts Buford. He gets the premier defender at all times and occasionally will get doubled up.

RockChalk
03-26-2012, 12:31 PM
Will be fun to see, I can see either team winning.

Well we can all be sure of that.

sedated
03-26-2012, 12:41 PM
I’m glad Sullinger didn’t play in the 1st matchup – it will keep KU focused and TRob should be fired up.

Other than that, it’s a tough matchup to call.

mr. tegu
03-26-2012, 12:45 PM
KU 71 OSU 67 :D

El Jefe
03-26-2012, 01:12 PM
No John Diebler on the team. A lack of a true/consistent 3 point shooter really hurts Buford. He gets the premier defender at all times and occasionally will get doubled up.

Meh, I understand what you're saying, but players make plays. Buford this season has looked unable to create his own shot, even when Diebs was playing Buford could make something happen when he wasn't on the floor. Buford's mid-range J is garbage, and his 3 pointer is turrible (Barkley) right now.

El Jefe
03-26-2012, 01:14 PM
Two physically dominating interior players. Sullinger has Trobs on size/weight/strength, and Trobs is by far the better athlete.

Craft is a sick defender, but Tyshawn can stay in front of any guard in the nation.

Congrats to both teams. Whoever wins, this season is a raging success for both.

Great post! I agree 100%. I hope it's a competitive game. If sully get's into foul trouble it could get ugly.

ohiobronco2
03-26-2012, 01:35 PM
Well we can all be sure of that.

ROFL

chiefzilla1501
03-26-2012, 05:52 PM
It's hard to imagine a better matchup.

Craft neutralizes Tyshawn Thomas
Thomas Robinson and Sullinger will each get theirs... but they'll both cancel each other out

What happens with the other 3 guys will be really interesting for Kansas. Kansas can go with match ups and go with a lineup of Relaford (probably on Deshaun Thomas), Elijah Johnson (probably on Smith), and Teahan (probably on Buford). Or Kansas can go with a big lineup of Relaford, Withey, and Johnson as your other 3, and maybe you use Withey/Robinson in some kind of low-post zone. Maybe you even put a 3rd big in there and play a Triangle-and-two type defense. I think you can get away with that because there are only 2 guys on OSU who can shoot from the outside, with Craft only modestly good from the foul line and up.

If I'm Kansas, my strategy is to attack the living daylights out of Sullinger, even if that puts Robinson and Withey into foul trouble. The goal should be to get Sullinger into foul trouble or gas him for the end of the game. You may not put as many points up in the beginning of the game, but if you knock Sullinger out, then KU should be able to walk all over OSU.

O.city
03-26-2012, 05:57 PM
Very excited to see Taylor and Craft match up.


Craft is the best perimeter defender in the nation and TT is extremely quick.

I'd think KU tries to get into the open court and run a little more.

KC_Connection
03-26-2012, 06:21 PM
Craft is a hacker and Tyshawn can beat him if he's playing well. I have little doubt about that. If you can get him into foul trouble, that really helps. OSU often seems lost without him on the court.

The major issue that KU will have will be covering Deshaun Thomas. I don't think they have anybody that can do it.

Buehler445
03-26-2012, 06:30 PM
Good game, but I'm expecting a KU loss. They're due. KU has 5 guys that can ball. That alone makes it tough. Theyve won a fuckton without any help, but it is tough.

Plus, the refs have been inclined to let them play all tournament. That favors OSU IMO.

I think unless they continue their offense from the UNC game and they lock it down on D it is going to be the end.

ohiobronco2
03-26-2012, 06:34 PM
Craft is a hacker and Tyshawn can beat him if he's playing well. I have little doubt about that. If you can get him into foul trouble, that really helps. OSU often seems lost without him on the court.

The major issue that KU will have will be covering Deshaun Thomas. I don't think they have anybody that can do it.

Nobody else can really handle the ball worth a shit.

veist
03-26-2012, 06:38 PM
It'll be interesting, Tyshawn on Craft rematch with Tyshawn healthy should be as interesting as Sully on T-Rob.

El Jefe
03-26-2012, 07:24 PM
Craft is a hacker and Tyshawn can beat him if he's playing well. I have little doubt about that. If you can get him into foul trouble, that really helps. OSU often seems lost without him on the court.

The major issue that KU will have will be covering Deshaun Thomas. I don't think they have anybody that can do it.

I don't know why you think Craft is a hacker, but I don't agree. I think you could argue he hand checks at times, but who doesn't? I have never seen a better defender, he moves his feet extremely well.

RockChalk
03-26-2012, 07:51 PM
I don't know why you think Craft is a hacker, but I don't agree. I think you could argue he hand checks at times, but who doesn't? I have never seen a better defender, he moves his feet extremely well.

I assume you mean you've never seen a better defender for tOSU? Or are you saying all-time?

El Jefe
03-26-2012, 07:56 PM
I assume you mean you've never seen a better defender for tOSU? Or are you saying all-time?

At tOSU.

Buehler445
03-26-2012, 09:22 PM
Craft is good, but so is TT. I think TT will get by him, but I can see some turnovers because Craft is pretty wiley.

The speed TT has though, is unreal. And TT is a much different player than he was in the first meeting. I think he has been pressing some in the tournament and hasn't played as well. Hopefully he can hang loose and ball it up.