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SNR
04-13-2012, 12:21 PM
The Packers have been buzzing wildly about him, and it shows on numerous mock drafts that have come out recently. He has zoomed up draft boards in recent weeks, many of them predicting that the Packers like him so much that they will simply take him with their first round pick just to be safe.

Let's assume the Packers only really like the guy and will think about selecting him with their 2nd round pick, or they'll try to trade up/down in the 2nd round to grab him. If he's sitting there at #44 for the Chiefs would you take him that early?

SNR
04-13-2012, 12:22 PM
Think about it. All you pasty-ass crackahs can now have a talented guy to root for in our LB squad instead of cheering on that hunk of poo Studebaker.

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Direckshun
04-13-2012, 12:24 PM
The Packers have been buzzing wildly about him, and it shows on numerous mock drafts that have come out recently. He has zoomed up draft boards in recent weeks, many of them predicting that the Packers like him so much that they will simply take him with their first round pick just to be safe.

Let's assume the Packers only really like the guy and will think about selecting him with their 2nd round pick, or they'll try to trade up/down in the 2nd round to grab him. If he's sitting there at #44 for the Chiefs would you take him that early?

I'd certainly consider him. I would imagine there would be other players at that selection I'd simply want more, though.

Just to look at a mock draft I have up in the other window, the following players go from #44 on:

Ronnell Lewis
Alfonzo Dennard
David Wilson
Amini Silatolu
Kevin Zeitler

Throw McMellin in there, and my preferences would look like:

Dennard
McClellin

Lewis


Silatolu

Zeitler



Wilson

So I imagine he'd be high up on my list if he were still around.

Direckshun
04-13-2012, 12:27 PM
I like that video of his play, too. He's very heady against the run.

buddha
04-15-2012, 10:58 PM
I'd take him at 44, but I don't think he'll be there. Shea is a terrific ball player...think Gary Spani.

Chocolate Hog
04-16-2012, 12:35 AM
Drafted him in the 2 round of the CP mock

ChiefMojo
04-16-2012, 06:11 AM
I love McClellin also but where would we start him? He is a 3-4 OLB and we already have Hali and Houston.

Tribal Warfare
04-16-2012, 07:04 AM
I love McClellin also but where would we start him? He is a 3-4 OLB and we already have Hali and Houston.

never hurts to have depth in a position of value

Sorter
04-16-2012, 08:34 AM
I love McClellin also but where would we start him? He is a 3-4 OLB and we already have Hali and Houston.

Who said anything about starting? Besides, with our nickel pkg we can move Tamba inside next to Bailey and have him on the field with Houston at the same time.

O.city
04-16-2012, 09:17 AM
Tamba is one of the top edge rushers in the league. I don't mind the thought but I don't really wanna move him inside.


If I'm wanting a guy like that I hope Ingram falls. He's the most versatile IMO.

Direckshun
04-16-2012, 09:28 AM
never hurts to have depth in a position of extreme value

FYP

DJ's left nut
04-16-2012, 09:33 AM
I don't think you use a 2nd round pick on a guy you have no designs on starting when you still have some pretty serious needs on the squad, especially when that guy doesn't even have an avenue for playing time for the next 3 seasons, apart from injury.

Hell, if you're going to do that, target another OT; at least then you'd have a backup at a position of extreme value that may start in 2013 if Albert goes.

There are too many players that are capable of making a greater impact that will be available in the 2nd to justify taking a 3-year backup/sub player at 44. In the 3rd? Sure, why not? But not the 2nd.

Sorter
04-16-2012, 10:34 AM
It really hurt the Giants drafting JPP when they already had Osi and Tuck...

O.city
04-16-2012, 10:43 AM
It really hurt the Giants drafting JPP when they already had Osi and Tuck...

Well yeah I'd love to have pass rushers, but with our defense where do you put them?


You take Houston or Hali off the field?


We need someone who can push the pocket, from the inside.

Direckshun
04-16-2012, 10:51 AM
It really hurt the Giants drafting JPP when they already had Osi and Tuck...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=15&pictureid=1126

O.city
04-16-2012, 10:54 AM
I do like that Direkshun, but I don't really like moving Tamba inside where he will get beat on like that.

Plus that makes us very easy to run the ball against.

Sorter
04-16-2012, 11:27 AM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=15&pictureid=1126

This was my original suggestion with Mercilus. Ingram would fit as well, little worried about the small arms.

Sorter
04-16-2012, 11:28 AM
I do like that Direkshun, but I don't really like moving Tamba inside where he will get beat on like that.

Plus that makes us very easy to run the ball against.

Who is going to be running on every 2nd/3rd and long? This is a passing, QB driven league.

SNR
04-16-2012, 11:33 AM
That's okay. I'm already convinced from all the mocks that he'll be gone by the end of the first round. A team like Green Bay or New England will take him.

DJ's left nut
04-16-2012, 01:39 PM
It really hurt the Giants drafting JPP when they already had Osi and Tuck...

No. More. Giants. Comparisons.

It's beyond nonsense.

Absolutely nothing we will do with this offense will approximate the rolling 4-3 sets that the Giants employ multiple pass-rushers in. Further, Shea McClellin and JPP are nowhere near the same creature.

Everyone keeps talking about the Giants and they immediately clam the hell up when you ask them just exactly how we would employ a scheme even remotely similar to what the Giants use under a 3-4 setup with a 2-gap scheme.

It's not happening, folks - quit using the Giants as your model under this regime.

DJ's left nut
04-16-2012, 01:42 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=15&pictureid=1126

I don't see Hali remaining all that effective as an interior rusher. With his arm length, it will be too easy to engage him at the point of attack and simply lock him up. He's strong for an OLB, but not nearly strong enough to simply collapse the interior.

If you want to run that scheme, I still think you draft Brockers, put him there and put Hali out where you have Mercilus. A pass-rusher shoved inside like is just going to get washed out, especially a short-armed one like Hali and especially if Crennel sticks to the 2-gap religiously.

Sorter
04-16-2012, 02:15 PM
Firstly, you can compare it to what the NYGs have done. Fewell The whole idea is getting as many solid pass rushers as you can on the field while still being able to have adequate coverage. The Giants don't have to rush more than 4 typically because they can just send their front 4 with Tuck rotated inside. We wouldn't have to rush more than 4 typically because we could rotate hypothetically Tamba, Brockers, Mercilus, or Still on the inside. Nobody else was so asinine to compare Shea to JPP. The concept of rotating one of your best pass rushers inside while still maintaining that level of pass rush off the edge is what is being compared. It is an effective formula and makes sense.
Funny, because I'm pretty sure that Tamba has done it at Penn St . Additionally, you can use stunts and twists to get Tamba outside or create different mismatches. You can also use this like a 1-5-5 package and have everyone but Bailey standing.

I am not against the Brockers pick at all(I want Mercilus, then Brockers/DeCastro), but this thread was about drafting Shea and people saying he wouldn't be used. That simply isn't the case. If we have the ability to pick up an elite pass rusher or one with a high ceiling, it would be silly to pass on him. You can always find a way to get your best talent out on the field. Additionally, we've nearly ran Tamba into the fucking ground the last few years; if we can't provide above average depth, he is going to have a much shorter career.

buddha
04-18-2012, 09:38 AM
Hali at a DT...? No chance in hell.

You could occassionally move him inside in certain pass rushing situations, but otherwise this is a total waste of his talent.

Direckshun
04-18-2012, 09:42 AM
I don't see Hali remaining all that effective as an interior rusher. With his arm length, it will be too easy to engage him at the point of attack and simply lock him up. He's strong for an OLB, but not nearly strong enough to simply collapse the interior.

If you want to run that scheme, I still think you draft Brockers, put him there and put Hali out where you have Mercilus. A pass-rusher shoved inside like is just going to get washed out, especially a short-armed one like Hali and especially if Crennel sticks to the 2-gap religiously.

Hali at a DT...? No chance in hell.

You could occassionally move him inside in certain pass rushing situations, but otherwise this is a total waste of his talent.

I just put that up as a specific package for third and long.

A Giants-like package, if you will.

Nightfyre
04-18-2012, 09:53 PM
Hali has demonstrated he is not nearly as effective playing with his hand in the dirt.

kcbubb
04-22-2012, 06:17 PM
Ingram would be the best pick bc of his ability to rush as a DT. Hali is much more effective on the outside.

Nightfyre
04-22-2012, 08:58 PM
Ingram would be eaten alive as a DT. He's 6'1"/264. He's giving up 50 pounds to virtually every guard in the league.