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Hog Farmer
04-25-2012, 07:27 PM
One of these three:

Kuechly.... Mayock says he's the best ILB he's EVER seen come out.

Barron.... One of the safest picks that would make our secondary best in the league.

Poe... High motor and lots of weight that won't stop


Thoughts!

ChiefsNow
04-25-2012, 07:28 PM
A trade

KCrockaholic
04-25-2012, 07:29 PM
Why are people completely ignoring Decastro now as if there's no chance that Pioli would do that?

The Bad Guy
04-25-2012, 07:30 PM
You know when Poe will stop? When he puts pads on. He blows.

Hog Farmer
04-25-2012, 07:30 PM
A trade

Mayock has the Bills at 10 taking Kuechly and the Cowboys really want Barron so there's that!

KCrockaholic
04-25-2012, 07:30 PM
One of these three:

Kuechly.... Mayock says he's the best ILB he's EVER seen come out.

Barron.... One of the safest picks that would make our secondary best in the league.

Poe... High motor and lots of weight that won't stop


Thoughts!

And WTF is this?

Bewbies
04-25-2012, 07:30 PM
Why are people completely ignoring Decastro now as if there's no chance that Pioli wouldn't do that?

I know!! Not drafting DeCastro would be a bigger mistake than Blackledge over Marino...

We can't afford to make a mistake that big again.

BryanBusby
04-25-2012, 07:30 PM
Why are people completely ignoring Decastro now as if there's no chance that Pioli would do that?

We're not ignoring it. It'd just be a fucking stupid decision.

Mecca
04-25-2012, 07:31 PM
Did you know Mayock has gotten the Bills pick right like 5 years in a row.

BryanBusby
04-25-2012, 07:31 PM
and 0 of the Chiefs picks

KCrockaholic
04-25-2012, 07:32 PM
We're not ignoring it. It'd just be a ****ing stupid decision.

And Dontari Poe wouldn't be? That guy sucks ass.

Nightfyre
04-25-2012, 07:32 PM
It will be brockers. You guys need to get on the bandwagon.

Hog Farmer
04-25-2012, 07:32 PM
And WTF is this?

According to Mayock, NOT ME!

Dayze
04-25-2012, 07:33 PM
Out of those three I'd take Barron.

Fat Elvis
04-25-2012, 07:33 PM
They've brought Brockers in for a visit, and every single 1st round draft pick of the Pioli era has been brought in for a visit....

BryanBusby
04-25-2012, 07:33 PM
And Dontari Poe wouldn't be? That guy sucks ass.

Making a fucking stupid decision to avoid making a fucking stupid decision is still a fucking stupid decision.

Example: "Oh boy, thank god we didn't draft Aaron Curry!" Well okay, but we still drafted Tyson Jackson at #3 overall.

Mecca
04-25-2012, 07:33 PM
Apparently looking around the net, the idea of us taking Barron isn't going over very well.

ILChief
04-25-2012, 07:33 PM
either DeCastro or Barron (or Tannehill if he falls to us)

Hog Farmer
04-25-2012, 07:35 PM
either DeCastro or Barron (or Tannehill if he falls to us)

Pioli will not draft Tanny if he falls to us . Mark my words !

Bewbies
04-25-2012, 07:36 PM
Apparently looking around the net, the idea of us taking Barron isn't going over very well.

There aren't many people that actually follow KC though either...

ILChief
04-25-2012, 07:36 PM
Pioli will not draft Tanny if he falls to us . Mark my words !

Sadly you're probably right :(

Dayze
04-25-2012, 07:36 PM
Does anyone get the feeling that Pioli is feeling heat to make some progress? Therefore taking safer picks etc?

Or does he get a free pass for another five yrs etc?

Hog Farmer
04-25-2012, 07:38 PM
Apparently looking around the net, the idea of us taking Barron isn't going over very well.

Mayock said the 9-11 picks were the safest picks in the draft this year with Kuechly at 10 , Barron at 11 . I forgot #9 , but he's safe.

He had Poe going to the Broncos.

Coogs
04-25-2012, 07:39 PM
They've brought Brockers in for a visit, and every single 1st round draft pick of the Pioli era has been brought in for a visit....

Brockers, Tannehill, and Poe.

Tannehill's my vote.

keg in kc
04-25-2012, 07:39 PM
I think we're going to see the Chiefs move up to three, all the Tannehill fangirls are going to get all moist, and then we're going to hear Kuechly's name called. LMAO

Hog Farmer
04-25-2012, 07:43 PM
Does anyone get the feeling that Pioli is feeling heat to make some progress? Therefore taking safer picks etc?

Or does he get a free pass for another five yrs etc?

No

ILChief
04-25-2012, 07:43 PM
Mayock said the 9-11 picks were the safest picks in the draft this year with Kuechly at 10 , Barron at 11 . I forgot #9 , but he's safe.

He had Poe going to the Broncos.

Fletcher Cox was at 9

Coogs
04-25-2012, 07:43 PM
I think we're going to see the Chiefs move up to three, all the Tannehill fangirls are going to get all moist, and then we're going to hear Kuechly's name called. LMAO

If that happens, Pioli better be on the first bus out of town.

Dayze
04-25-2012, 07:45 PM
No

Damnit.

Wishful thinking on my part. ..

Dayze
04-25-2012, 07:46 PM
If that happens, Pioli better be on the first bus out of town.

That. Sadly, nothing surprises me with the chiefs after the Polamalu and T Jax

ChiefsNow
04-25-2012, 07:49 PM
I fully expect a trade. Pioll will get as many picks as he can.

mlyonsd
04-25-2012, 07:49 PM
Trade down.

DTLB58
04-25-2012, 09:22 PM
Hightower

If he is good enough for Pittsburgh and Baltimore (rumored) sign him up!

DTLB58
04-25-2012, 09:24 PM
Why are people completely ignoring Decastro now as if there's no chance that Pioli would do that?

Well, remember when there was a mega argument on here for the Chiefs to draft Richardson?
Who sees him falling past the Browns, Bucs and Rams to get to KC now? :doh!:

pr_capone
04-25-2012, 09:25 PM
A trade

THIS

evolve27
04-25-2012, 09:27 PM
I like LaMichael James with the 11th overall

The Dawg
04-25-2012, 09:29 PM
I think we will end up trading down with Dallas moving up to take our pick. I really don't want Poe- I don't think I'll look at a first round interior D-lineman the same again. So many bad choices in the past. I like the idea of Kuechly replacing Belcher.

Dmello12
04-25-2012, 09:31 PM
Barron/ trade down pick up hightower

Mr. Kotter
04-25-2012, 09:32 PM
DeCastro

Dayze
04-25-2012, 09:47 PM
If they can't trade and tannehill is gone I go with Hightower

Sorter
04-25-2012, 09:49 PM
The pick will be Brockers at 14 IMO.

ChiefMojo
04-25-2012, 09:57 PM
I'm having a feeling we are going to trade down with Dallas to move back to #14... we will take Michael Brockers.

Dayze
04-25-2012, 09:59 PM
I confident the chiefs will fuck it up

BossChief
04-25-2012, 10:06 PM
Who they will take:

Brockers

Who we should take:

Barron

boogblaster
04-25-2012, 10:38 PM
we need a ILB that can tackle plus cover the slant .....

KCrockaholic
04-25-2012, 10:44 PM
Well, remember when there was a mega argument on here for the Chiefs to draft Richardson?
Who sees him falling past the Browns, Bucs and Rams to get to KC now? :doh!:

...What does Trent Richardson have to do with David Decastro?

Dayze
04-25-2012, 10:45 PM
Who they will take:

Brockers

Who we should take:

Barron

Fo shizzle.

Dmello12
04-25-2012, 10:47 PM
trade up to #1 and pick Vontaze!!

Tribal Warfare
04-25-2012, 11:07 PM
Hightower

If he is good enough for Pittsburgh and Baltimore (rumored) sign him up!

This is the cat I want

Saccopoo
04-25-2012, 11:16 PM
One of these three:

Kuechly.... Mayock says he's the best ILB he's EVER seen come out.

Barron.... One of the safest picks that would make our secondary best in the league.

Poe... High motor and lots of weight that won't stop


Thoughts!

Kuechly I can tolerate. He would end up in the Hall of Fame if he ended up playing for a cover 2 43, but I'm not going to bitch to much about a stud like that on the team.

The other two...not so much.

Barron...great athletic, three surgeries and an arrest in the past three seasons. Questionable coverage skills.

Poe...everything you want in a Dlineman, except drive and production.

Jawshco
04-25-2012, 11:17 PM
If we can get Hightower, Ta'amu & an extra pick I'll be happy.

Bowser
04-26-2012, 12:03 AM
The Eagles will trade up into our spot, and at 17 we will take DeCastro.*



*stolen from Jim Miller

Simply Red
04-26-2012, 12:06 AM
Drew Brees

Marty Mac Ver 2.0
04-26-2012, 12:26 AM
Fletcher Cox.

Chief_For_Life58
04-26-2012, 12:29 AM
we need to draft whoever the steelers, pats, giants, ravens, or packers want to draft

pr_capone
04-26-2012, 12:31 AM
Drew Brees

No lie... I would come BUCKETS.

buddha
04-26-2012, 12:31 AM
The only 100% certainty here is that ANYBODY who claims that Poe has a motor that won't quit has never seen any video of Poe playing. There is no moment where you could fool yourself into believing any of that nonsense.

Chiefshrink
04-26-2012, 12:41 AM
I posted this in another thread in DP but this is what I think will happen.

I don't know, Barron is a very safe pro bowl Ed Reed type of pick and paired with Berry the Chiefs 2ndary would be lethal for Rivers and Manning assuming we use our next pick on Chapman.

Kuechly although great in coverage and tackling he needs to be able to rush the QB and thump the RBS as well and he is not that type of LB IMO.

If Barron falls to us IMO it will take a king's ransom from Dallas or whoever for us to tradedown and pass on Barron considering his rise on everybody's draftboard and the precedent and lesson taught to everyone in the league by Ed Reed and how important the SS has become now that the NFL is a passing league .

If I am GM and Barron falls to us I am taking him unless I get the king's ransom. If I get the king's ransom then I take either Brockers or McClellin with our first, use our 44th on Zeitler and the additional 2nd pick we get for the trade down I get Chapman but we might be able to use our 3rd rd on Chapman and use that additional 2nd rd pick on another CB,LB or WR.

Your thoughts?

Chief_For_Life58
04-26-2012, 12:42 AM
is kuechly gets to us. we need to draft that kid. hes gonna be a beast ilb. barron would be great too with how good hes looking and the qbs in our freakin league

I think the best bet for us is to trade back. pick up another 2nd or 3rd. this draft needs to be about solid backups and completing our core for the most part.

Chiefshrink
04-26-2012, 12:47 AM
is kuechly gets to us. we need to draft that kid. hes gonna be a beast ilb. barron would be great too with how good hes looking and the qbs in our freakin league

I think the best bet for us is to trade back. pick up another 2nd or 3rd. this draft needs to be about solid backups and completing our core for the most part.

You think Kuechley can rush the QB and thump RBs ? Because his tape doesn't show it. Great instincts in recognizing pass plays and dropping into coverage and good tackler but......

McClellin would be better for what we want to do. Kuechley IMO is better suited for the 4/3.

milkman
04-26-2012, 01:08 AM
I posted this in another thread in DP but this is what I think will happen.

I don't know, Barron is a very safe pro bowl Ed Reed type of pick and paired with Berry the Chiefs 2ndary would be lethal for Rivers and Manning assuming we use our next pick on Chapman.

Kuechly although great in coverage and tackling he needs to be able to rush the QB and thump the RBS as well and he is not that type of LB IMO.

If Barron falls to us IMO it will take a king's ransom from Dallas or whoever for us to tradedown and pass on Barron considering his rise on everybody's draftboard and the precedent and lesson taught to everyone in the league by Ed Reed and how important the SS has become now that the NFL is a passing league .

If I am GM and Barron falls to us I am taking him unless I get the king's ransom. If I get the king's ransom then I take either Brockers or McClellin with our first, use our 44th on Zeitler and the additional 2nd pick we get for the trade down I get Chapman but we might be able to use our 3rd rd on Chapman and use that additional 2nd rd pick on another CB,LB or WR.

Your thoughts?

You've been told again and again that Barron is not an Ed Reed type.

To further illustrate your ignorance, you think Ed Reed plays strong safety.

Just keep talking.

With every word, you enhance your reputation as a dumb shit.

thabear04
04-26-2012, 01:30 AM
Were taking Rodney Peete

scott free
04-26-2012, 01:36 AM
Brockers or DeCastro.

the Talking Can
04-26-2012, 01:46 AM
i have no clue who the chiefs want

i do think we'll trade down

evolve27
04-26-2012, 02:52 AM
i have no clue who the chiefs want

i do think we'll trade down

Barron reports are surfacing, damn this will be a shocker.

acesn8s
04-26-2012, 03:28 AM
One of these three:

Kuechly.... Mayock says he's the best ILB he's EVER seen come out.Am I the only one that thinks the offense needs more help than what any defensive player could bring?

Barron.... One of the safest picks that would make our secondary best in the league.I question players that climb the draft boards after the college season has played out. Barron and Poe are suspect to me.

Poe... High motor and lots of weight that won't stop


Thoughts!I have been hearing that he has no motor. Total opposite of Hali.

Dave Lane
04-26-2012, 05:26 AM
It will be brockers. You guys need to get on the bandwagon.

God I hope not. I'd rather have the guard. Ugghhh.

farmerchief
04-26-2012, 05:42 AM
My guess is Kuechly, not saying he would be "my" first choice, but I think that's who we pick....

bevischief
04-26-2012, 06:11 AM
One of these three:

Kuechly.... Mayock says he's the best ILB he's EVER seen come out.

Barron.... One of the safest picks that would make our secondary best in the league.

Poe... High motor and lots of weight that won't stop


Thoughts!

draft planet go read it...

hometeam
04-26-2012, 06:41 AM
I would be ok with the first two. but please god not another failure of a defensive lineman 1st rounder for KC

Urc Burry
04-26-2012, 06:50 AM
McShay is mocking Barron to the chiefs now I heard

Steron
04-26-2012, 06:52 AM
A trade with TB.

chop
04-26-2012, 06:58 AM
Mayock has the Bills at 10 taking Kuechly and the Cowboys really want Barron so there's that!

I heard a report on sirius radio this morning saying that Buffalo was trying to make a trade with Minnesota so they could get Kalil.

Steron
04-26-2012, 07:26 AM
I would be ok with the first two. but please god not another failure of a defensive lineman 1st rounder for KC

This right here is thinking that stops KC from drafting QBs. We got burned by Todd Blackledge so lets not draft another first round QB again.

Steron
04-26-2012, 07:27 AM
McShay is mocking Barron to the chiefs now I heard

http://dallas.sbnation.com/dallas-cowboys/2012/4/25/2975509/2012-nfl-mock-draft-todd-mcshay-has-cowboys-selecting-mark-barron

Chiefshrink
04-26-2012, 07:54 AM
You've been told again and again that Barron is not an Ed Reed type.

To further illustrate your ignorance, you think Ed Reed plays strong safety.

Just keep talking.

With every word, you enhance your reputation as a dumb shit.

FS / SS it doesn't matter when you have EB and MB playing next to each other. Crennel can have the added advantage with the talent of having 2 elite safeties confusing the opposing QB with "dupe" pkgs as to who is playing FS/SS.

If I'm Crennel and have EB and MB I am a kid in the candy store of creative D safety pkgs:thumb:

Learn to think outside your "condescending narcissistically wounded" 'napoleon complex' leaky tampon vaginal mind you sorry sap !!:shake:

Chiefshrink
04-26-2012, 08:08 AM
God I hope not. I'd rather have the guard. Ugghhh.

Hey Space Cadet,

Your signature of my comment 3yrs ago after his 1st/2nd pre-season game is 'fair game' I admit. Like many of the starved Chief fans here on CP for a legit playmaking QB I definitely had the QBOTF rose colored glasses on. I will still back Cassel's athleticism but what I didn't count on was how he plays nervously not to make a mistake thus making more as opposed to envisioning making a play regardless of the circumstances.

Good one !!:thumb:

Direckshun
04-26-2012, 08:09 AM
ILB Luke Kuechly, Boston College: 1 in 4 odds

Trade Down: 1 in 4 odds

DE Michael Brockers, LSU: 1 in 5 odds

SS Mark Barron, Alabama: 3 in 20 odds

OG David DeCastro, Stanford: 1 in 20 odds

DE Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State: 1 in 25 odds

OLB Melvin Ingram, South Carolina: 1 in 25 odds

NT Dontari Poe, Memphis: 1 in 50 odds

OLB Whitney Mercilus, Illinois: 1 in 50 odds

Trade Up for QB Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M: 1 in 100 odds

Trade Up for OT Matt Kalil, USC: 1 in 100 odds

Chiefshrink
04-26-2012, 08:18 AM
It's Barron !!!

bricks
04-26-2012, 08:22 AM
If Barron can make the Chiefs the best secondary in the league, then he should be the pick at #11. It makes too much sense. Might as well solidify your secondary since Peyton is now in the division.

The Chiefs defense finished 11th in total defense last year and that was without Berry. Imagine having a healthy Berry and Barron added to that team? Defense can be well within the top 10.

I think Barron could add something to the defense. He gives the Chiefs more of an attitude in the secondary. He is a very physical player and also very instinctive. What he has in adequate speed can be made up for with his instincts. Plus he is sticks to his assignments very well and is always in position to make plays. I think those factors alone can make the secondary more sound. It doesn't bother me that Barrons coverage skills are average. Chiefs have Berry who has great speed and athleticism to cover a lot of ground/range in the secondary.

I just think if you combine Berrys overall attributes with Barron strengths, it makes the secondary much more complete. The Chiefs could use a strong safety. Let's not kid ourselves or take that for granted. Barron gives the Chiefs what they need.

suds79
04-26-2012, 08:29 AM
ILB Luke Kuechly, Boston College: 1 in 4 odds

Trade Down: 1 in 4 odds

DE Michael Brockers, LSU: 1 in 5 odds

SS Mark Barron, Alabama: 3 in 20 odds

OG David DeCastro, Stanford: 1 in 20 odds

DE Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State: 1 in 25 odds

OLB Melvin Ingram, South Carolina: 1 in 25 odds

NT Dontari Poe, Memphis: 1 in 50 odds

OLB Whitney Mercilus, Illinois: 1 in 50 odds

Trade Up for QB Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M: 1 in 100 odds

Trade Up for OT Matt Kalil, USC: 1 in 100 odds

Never understand why Ingram (or whoever is the best pass rusher) hasn't gotten more run nationally as a fit. Outside of NT, I'd contend that another pass rusher is our biggest need.

We're relying on Hali to stay healthy again and for relatively unproven Justin Houston to be the only guys getting the job done.

qabbaan
04-26-2012, 08:33 AM
Trade down - 50%
An off the wall player that not many people expect - 50%

Direckshun
04-26-2012, 08:38 AM
Never understand why Ingram (or whoever is the best pass rusher) hasn't gotten more run nationally as a fit. Outside of NT, I'd contend that another pass rusher is our biggest need.

We're relying on Hali to stay healthy again and for relatively unproven Justin Houston to be the only guys getting the job done.

I think Ingram is a great fit.

I just think he tumbles down the board because of his arm length.

Chiefshrink
04-26-2012, 08:44 AM
I think Ingram is a great fit.

I just think he tumbles down the board because of his arm length.

and height. But I agree he would be a great fit because of multiple positions he could play. Many different pkgs.:thumb:

Hog Farmer
04-26-2012, 08:50 AM
Who would help us the most against Peyton Manning ? Kuluechy, Barron or Poe?

milkman
04-26-2012, 08:53 AM
FS / SS it doesn't matter when you have EB and MB playing next to each other. Crennel can have the added advantage with the talent of having 2 elite safeties confusing the opposing QB with "dupe" pkgs as to who is playing FS/SS.

If I'm Crennel and have EB and MB I am a kid in the candy store of creative D safety pkgs:thumb:

Learn to think outside your "condescending narcissistically wounded" 'napoleon complex' leaky tampon vaginal mind you sorry sap !!:shake:



Ed Reed is a free safety, and you're a dumbshit that thinks he plays strong safety.

Don't have to think outside the box to recognize you're a dumbshit.

tooge
04-26-2012, 08:55 AM
I'll be Decastro, Kuechle, or a trade down. Remember these things:
1. Allen Bailey played very well as a rookie with no off season
2. Pioli wants Cassel to succeed, and a great offensive line makes that possible
3. If they shore up the short pass defense, they can compete. Corners are very good, safeties are very good. Need another cover Lb.
If they have a trade down partner they will move. Particularly if they think they can still get Decastro. All of the above point to one of these three things happening.

ChiefRocka
04-26-2012, 08:56 AM
Yeah, we want Barron...Everyone!!! (Dallas)

Trade with Dallas and land Decastro = happy as a pig in shit

Frosty
04-26-2012, 08:57 AM
Never understand why Ingram (or whoever is the best pass rusher) hasn't gotten more run nationally as a fit. Outside of NT, I'd contend that another pass rusher is our biggest need.

We're relying on Hali to stay healthy again and for relatively unproven Justin Houston to be the only guys getting the job done.


Keep ****ing doubting Gabe Miller :cuss:



;)

Direckshun
04-26-2012, 09:04 AM
Who would help us the most against Peyton Manning ? Kuluechy, Barron or Poe?

Great question.

Either Barron or Kuechly would be a brilliant addition to help us fight Manning.

But Barron would probably help the most.

Direckshun
04-26-2012, 09:06 AM
I think the most likely scenario is that a player we really want will be there at 11, but the Chiefs will leverage that player's popularity into a juicy trade-down deal.

Otherwise, if the Chiefs stay put, it's going to either be Kuechly (my guess), or Brockers. Barron as the dark horse, but so many teams want him that'd be the most likely player we'd leverage to trade down.

Dave Lane
04-26-2012, 09:17 AM
You've been told again and again that Barron is not an Ed Reed type.

To further illustrate your ignorance, you think Ed Reed plays strong safety.

Just keep talking.

With every word, you enhance your reputation as a dumb shit.

Even my sig. :)

ChiefRocka
04-26-2012, 09:18 AM
Who would help us the most against Peyton Manning ? Kuluechy, Barron or Poe?

I'd say Keuchly, reads the play faster and can stay with the TE's downfield. Kendrick Lewis is a good, potentially great safety.

Also, Keuchly has no injury concerns.

milkman
04-26-2012, 09:49 AM
I'd say Keuchly, reads the play faster and can stay with the TE's downfield. Kendrick Lewis is a good, potentially great safety.

Also, Keuchly has no injury concerns.

Lewis a good safety, but I fully believe he's reached his ceiling.

He's never going to be a playmaker or a ballhawk.

He's a guy that handle his responsibilties as a centerfielder adequately.

But that's all he is, and will likely ever be.

With Mark Barron, you get a guy that can play in the box, who can blitz or cover TEs, and allows you to move Eric Berry to free safety, where he can be that playmaking ballhawk.

Kuechly would be a great pick for a cover 2 team at MLB.

He's a poor fit for the role he would play in this defense.

bricks
04-26-2012, 09:57 AM
Lewis a good safety, but I fully believe he's reached his ceiling.

He's never going to be a playmaker or a ballhawk.

He's a guy that handle his responsibilties as a centerfielder adequately.

But that's all he is, and will likely ever be.

With Mark Barron, you get a guy that can play in the box, who can blitz or cover TEs, and allows you to move Eric Berry to free safety, where he can be that playmaking ballhawk.

Kuechly would be a great pick for a cover 2 team at MLB.

He's a poor fit for the role he would play in this defense.

If you had to choose between Kuechley and Barron, I guess you're taking Barron?

*I think Lewis would be an excellent backup or role player but if the Chiefs can improve the secondary I'd be open to it. Can never have enough DBs especially if they could add a really good strong safety.

Molitoth
04-26-2012, 09:58 AM
I'm hoping for a trade down with some team that wants Barron.
Then we can take DeCastro a few picks later.


I would be happy with DeCastro, Barron, or Kuechley.

milkman
04-26-2012, 10:00 AM
If you had to choose between Kuechley and Barron, I guess you're taking Barron?

*I think Lewis would be an excellent backup or role player but if the Chiefs can improve the secondary I'd be open to it. Can never have enough DBs especially if they could add a really good strong safety.

Luke Kuechly would piss me off more than any other player.

chiefs2012
04-26-2012, 10:01 AM
Luke Kuechly would piss me off more than any other player.

:spock:

ChiefRocka
04-26-2012, 10:05 AM
Can you sustain two #1 safeties, we couldn't do it with two corners??

Frosty
04-26-2012, 10:05 AM
Luke Kuechly would piss me off more than any other player.

This, though Poe is probably a tie.

Hog Farmer
04-26-2012, 10:20 AM
Great question.

Either Barron or Kuechly would be a brilliant addition to help us fight Manning.

But Barron would probably help the most.

I tend to agree. Manning likes to hit his recievers in the 15-20 yard range. If Houston and Hali can keep pressure on him Barron and Berry will be huge.

Chief Roundup
04-26-2012, 10:26 AM
Hoping for Tannehill. Figuring a trade down with a selection of Brockers.

Direckshun
04-26-2012, 10:28 AM
Can you sustain two #1 safeties, we couldn't do it with two corners??

We can do it with two corners, easy.

The front office just has to believe they fit. Carr, apparently, did not fit enough to justify a $50 million paycheck.

If they draft Barron, than we will have Barron/Berry as long as we have Pioli.

Direckshun
04-26-2012, 10:28 AM
Figuring a trade down with a selection of Brockers.

Very likely.

Detoxing
04-26-2012, 10:39 AM
:spock:

This.

There are some posters on this board who i respect that take this stance.

I find that to be completely idiotic. The kid is a gamer and would have an immediate impact on this D and make it even more versatile.

ForeverChiefs58
04-26-2012, 11:01 AM
I tend to agree. Manning likes to hit his recievers in the 15-20 yard range. If Houston and Hali can keep pressure on him Barron and Berry will be huge.

We should only get players whose last name starts with the letter B.

Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, Berry, Barron. Would be Bad ass to trade for Brees and go to the Bowl.

whoman69
04-26-2012, 11:50 AM
No matter who it is, there will be a meltdown here. I've never seen such utter disagreement about who to take.

whoman69
04-26-2012, 11:55 AM
NFLN reported the Chiefs are interested in Floyd, who I think brings nothing to the table. Are we really using 1st round picks on a guy who will be 4th on the depth chart? He better play ST. Just a sign the Chiefs are too cheap to sign Bowe.

Frosty
04-26-2012, 11:58 AM
No matter who it is, there will be a meltdown here. I've never seen such utter disagreement about who to take.

Tannehill vs Kuechly vs DeCastro is a lot like 2009's Sanchez vs Curry vs Monroe/Smith.

I'm pretty sure we are going to get Tyson Jackson tonight.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 11:59 AM
Trade

suds79
04-26-2012, 12:00 PM
NFLN reported the Chiefs are interested in Floyd, who I think brings nothing to the table. Are we really using 1st round picks on a guy who will be 4th on the depth chart? He better play ST. Just a sign the Chiefs are too cheap to sign Bowe.

http://www.combatreform.org/smokescreen.jpg

Honestly how can we trust anything we hear right now?

Munson
04-26-2012, 12:02 PM
If we stay put, I'd rather draft Barron over Brockers/DeCastro.

ChiefsCountry
04-26-2012, 12:03 PM
I think the Chiefs first round draft choice barring any major trade are:

Dont'a Hightower
Mark Barron
Michael Brockers

It will be one of those three. They are the best fits for our defense and basically fit the Chiefs perfectly.

Bowser
04-26-2012, 12:04 PM
NFLN reported the Chiefs are interested in Floyd, who I think brings nothing to the table. Are we really using 1st round picks on a guy who will be 4th on the depth chart? He better play ST. Just a sign the Chiefs are too cheap to sign Bowe.

It's all bullshit. They're trying to get in a position to trade down, if anything.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 12:04 PM
DeCastro is a guard that excels at pulling ... he fits our scheme perfectly too
Kuechly fits out defense as well

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 12:05 PM
It's all bullshit. They're trying to get in a position to trade down, if anything.
probably

floating rumors out for all the best guys that might still be available when we pick hoping that someone will want to move up.

milkman
04-26-2012, 12:09 PM
Kuechly fits out defense as well

No he doesn't.

ChiefsCountry
04-26-2012, 12:13 PM
DeCastro is a guard that excels at pulling ... he fits our scheme perfectly too
Kuechly fits out defense as well

DeCastro isn't a real good fit for a zone blocking scheme like ours. Kuechly doesn't fit our defense at the position, he would have to play. He would fit the Derrick Johnson role but not Belcher's.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 12:20 PM
No he doesn't.
yes he does ... our Nose tackle is supposed to stuff everything up so we don't need a pounder. He's supposed to be able to flow to the ball, which is what Kuechly is good at. we also ask the MLB to drop back passing zones and Kuechly is supposed to be outstanding at that.

outside LB's (Hali/Houston) are supposed be able to set the edge and rush the passer.

Inside linebackers(DJ/Kuechly) need to able to flow sideline to sideline and rack up the tackles yet still be able to drop in a passing zone.

Kuechly is 6'3" 242lbs and athletic ... the size to step up in the middle but also athletic enough to run to the sideline or drop into a zone.

JMO

milkman
04-26-2012, 12:25 PM
yes he does ... our Nose tackle is supposed to stuff everything up so we don't need a pounder. He's supposed to be able to flow to the ball, which is what Kuechly is good at. we also ask the MLB to drop back passing zones and Kuechly is supposed to be outstanding at that.

outside LB's (Hali/Houston) are supposed be able to set the edge and rush the passer.

Inside linebackers(DJ/Kuechly) need to able to flow sideline to sideline and rack up the tackles yet still be able to drop in a passing zone.

Kuechly is 6'3" 242lbs and athletic ... the size to step up in the middle but also athletic enough to run to the sideline or drop into a zone.

JMO

Even with the NT, you still need that thumper who's willing to throw his body into the FB coming through the hole as the lead blocker, and Kuechly has shown no desire or ability to be that guy.

He's bigger, but he's far less physical than Belcher.

BossChief
04-26-2012, 12:25 PM
For the 1000th time...Barron should be our pick.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 12:26 PM
For the 1000th time...Barron should be our pick.

if don't trade down .... agreed.

suds79
04-26-2012, 12:28 PM
Honestly I think some of you get too caught up into what guys were coached to do in college vs "do they have the ability to do it?"

I've read "DeCastro (who I'm not all that high on because he's just a Guard) isn't a good fit for the zone blocking scheme."

Not to single out that one line. There's been a lot of stuff about Kuechly also.

Here's why I don't buy it.

If David DeCastro is suppose to be the best Guard since Steve Hutchinson, I'm sure he can pick up the zone blocking scheme just fine because he has the talent.

Does Kuechly have the talent to do whatever Romeo wants him to do? I'd venture to say so.

Did Tamba Hali have a lick of experience at LB when in college? No. He had a hand on the ground as DE rusher. He has the talent to fit another scheme.

mdchiefsfan
04-26-2012, 12:30 PM
Out of those three I'd take Barron.

same

Willie Lanier
04-26-2012, 12:30 PM
Will be DeCastro

Should be Barron

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 12:32 PM
Does Kuechly have the talent to do whatever Romeo wants him to do? I'd venture to say so.

Did Tamba Hali have a lick of experience at LB when in college? No. He had a hand on the ground as DE rusher. He has the talent to fit another scheme.
they say that Kuechly can cover a tightend


which would be a first for us. :D

milkman
04-26-2012, 12:33 PM
Honestly I think some of you get too caught up into what guys were coached to do in college vs "do they have the ability to do it?"

I've read "DeCastro (who I'm not all that high on because he's just a Guard) isn't a good fit for the zone blocking scheme."

Not to single out that one line. There's been a lot of stuff about Kuechly also.

Here's why I don't buy it.

If David DeCastro is suppose to be the best Guard since Steve Hutchinson, I'm sure he can pick up the zone blocking scheme just fine because he has the talent.

Does Kuechly have the talent to do whatever Romeo wants him to do? I'd venture to say so.

Did Tamba Hali have a lick of experience at LB when in college? No. He had a hand on the ground as DE rusher. He has the talent.

There's a difference between talent and mentality.

I disagree that DeCastro doesn't have the mobility to zone block.
I think he has the talent and ability to excel in any scheme.
But that doesn't require a certain type of mentality.
It simply requires the physical ability to do it.

But I will argue with every ounce of my being that it takes a certain type of mentality to be a guy that throws his body into blockers with abandonment.

milkman
04-26-2012, 12:34 PM
they say that Kuechly can cover a tightend


which would be a first for us. :D

There isn't a LB in the NFL, or in this draft, that can cover the athletic TEs that are running rampant in the NFL today.

htismaqe
04-26-2012, 12:36 PM
For the 1000th time...Barron should be our pick.

I assuming you are assuming Tannehill will be gone right?

I'm all aboard the Barron pick but if Tannehill is there, they have to take a shot or this fan base is gonna flat out rebel.

suds79
04-26-2012, 12:37 PM
There's a difference between talent and mentality.

I disagree that DeCastro doesn't have the mobility to zone block.
I think he has the talent and ability to excel in any scheme.
But that doesn't require a certain type of mentality.
It simply requires the physical ability to do it.

But I will argue with every ounce of my being that it takes a certain type of mentality to be a guy that throws his body into blockers with abandonment.

That's fair.

I myself am not going to pretend to know a single thing about the mentality of any of these guys. That's Scott & Romeo's job who have sat down with them in meetings.

Just seems like something you'd have to know about them from talking to coaches & personal interaction.

milkman
04-26-2012, 12:40 PM
That's fair.

I myself am not going to pretend to know a single thing about the mentality of any of these guys. That's Scott & Romeo's job who have sat down with them in meetings.

Just seems like something you'd have to know about them from talking to coaches & personal interaction.

I personally believe that if you had the right mentality, you would have shown it on the field in flashes, at the very least, at some point in your college career.

PGM
04-26-2012, 12:46 PM
Matt Cassel Clone Jr. TE USC

58-4ever
04-26-2012, 12:48 PM
Hightower FTW!

Chiefnj2
04-26-2012, 12:50 PM
I think Pioli will go with Barron. If he's gone then Keuchly.

BossChief
04-26-2012, 12:52 PM
I assuming you are assuming Tannehill will be gone right?

I'm all aboard the Barron pick but if Tannehill is there, they have to take a shot or this fan base is gonna flat out rebel.

I've been saying for MONTHS that Tannehill is my 1a and Barron is my 1b.

Waaayyyyyyyyy before it was cool.

In fact, I think I was the first poster ANYWHERE to say Barron should be the pick.

You've mentioned that you think people single me out at times...that's because I go against the grain a lot of the time and stand by my words without wavering and come off as a knowitall because of such...especially when those takes end up panning out like my stance on Baldwin or Stanzi last year or Barron/Tannehill this year.

Believe it or not, this whole fanbase wants NOTHING TO DO WITH TANNEHILL.

If you want proof, go to the chiefs facebook page and start reading comments.

PGM
04-26-2012, 12:52 PM
....someone big, fast, strong, and tough.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 12:53 PM
I've been saying for MONTHS that Tannehill is my 1a and Barron is my 1b.

Waaayyyyyyyyy before it was cool.
that's because you are smarter than everyone else on CP


:evil:

suds79
04-26-2012, 12:56 PM
....someone big, fast, strong, and tough.

Romeo that you?

htismaqe
04-26-2012, 12:56 PM
I've been saying for MONTHS that Tannehill is my 1a and Barron is my 1b.

Waaayyyyyyyyy before it was cool.

My attendance these past few months has been, well..."spotty"...so I just wanted to make sure.

And yes, you and I talked about Barron way before the combine I believe...

CrazyHorse
04-26-2012, 01:56 PM
I've been saying for MONTHS that Tannehill is my 1a and Barron is my 1b.

Waaayyyyyyyyy before it was cool.

In fact, I think I was the first poster ANYWHERE to say Barron should be the pick.

You've mentioned that you think people single me out at times...that's because I go against the grain a lot of the time and stand by my words without wavering and come off as a knowitall because of such...especially when those takes end up panning out like my stance on Baldwin or Stanzi last year or Barron/Tannehill this year.

Believe it or not, this whole fanbase wants NOTHING TO DO WITH TANNEHILL.

If you want proof, go to the chiefs facebook page and start reading comments.

Whoa dude, you're awesome.

BTW nobody on this website "wavers."

I got every pick since Hali right (except Jackson). How bad ass does that make me?

ForeverChiefs58
04-26-2012, 02:02 PM
I think they take Decastro because they only scored more than 13 points just once in their final nine games (GB they scored 19 points) and finished next to last in the NFL in scoring. The most points we scored was 28 against the very worst team in the NFL.

If DeCastro can help open holes for our our RB's, give our WR's time to get open and our QB a couple seconds longer before he goes into a fetal position it would make sense.

I think Kuechly will be great, and would not be surprised to see him lead the league in tackles. He can get by blockers and make plays better than anyone I can remember watching in college football. IMO I see him as a Chris Spielman, Patrick Willis type player. Some people say we don't need another DJ, like it would suck for us to have Belcher play on that same beast mode level.

Simplicity
04-26-2012, 02:05 PM
I still like that QB out of Stanford... Good, solid arm. We need to draft him.

BryanBusby
04-26-2012, 02:06 PM
DeCastro for QB!

Hog Farmer
04-26-2012, 05:56 PM
I think Pioli will go with Barron. If he's gone then Keuchly.

I think it's the other way . Pioli goes Keuchly. If he's gone he goes Barron.

Extra Point
04-26-2012, 06:57 PM
This thread will be Reiff with complaints!

KCwolf
04-26-2012, 06:57 PM
Kuechly gone

Arrow
04-26-2012, 07:02 PM
DeCastro? Cox for the other side.

Arrow
04-26-2012, 07:05 PM
I don't like the Poe pick. Low production in C-USA? Scary

Arrow
04-26-2012, 07:15 PM
Wow, WalterFootball hates this much as I do. Gave it a C (http://walterfootball.com/offseason2012kc.php).

Hog Farmer
04-26-2012, 07:30 PM
I was right ! Suck it !

Frosty
04-26-2012, 07:43 PM
Tannehill vs Kuechly vs DeCastro is a lot like 2009's Sanchez vs Curry vs Monroe/Smith.

I'm pretty sure we are going to get Tyson Jackson tonight.



Nailed it!!

PGM
04-26-2012, 09:04 PM
Wow, WalterFootball hates this much as I do. Gave it a C (http://walterfootball.com/offseason2012kc.php).

WalterFootball is well established as being clueless.